Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I am a legit sender, I am looking for an old btc of a company Wallet or an investor/Reciever with high Recieving capacity for Transfer, We Have over 10m worth of Bitcoins to send out today Bitcoin flashing, Mt103,202, transferwise, bank wires ipip, SWIFT GPI Chat on whatsapp https://api.whatsapp.com/send?phone=+447511363482 On Mon, Nov 23, 2020, 5:18 PM Mr. Ed wrote: > Hi Sieghard, > > Yes, I hear you. I have been reading some of the rumors about the 13 > iPhone. My wife has an iPhone 11. I applied to get the iPhone from a > deaf/blind program so there is no cost to me. Like you said I would rather > have the features you are talking about that might be coming on the next > gen models. So we will have to see. If I do get one it would be the iPhone > 12 is my guess at this time. > > Mr. Ed > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2020 12:13 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Sorry, Ed, I'm not worried, the border is still closed and in any case I'm > like 100 years younger than you so I can take whatever you can dish out > > If you are getting an iPhone 12 I'm truly sorry for you, waste of money, > stick it out for another year or get something cheaper, you'll regret > getting the 12 next year. > > OK, joking aside, I'm sure the iPhone 12 is a nice enough phone, but you > are paying a higher price for several features which for most people make > no difference, e.g. 5G, maybe a slightly better camera than you would get > on an iPhone 11 which again for a blind person makes no difference etc. And > if you get a 12 Pro or Pro Max you are rreally throwing away money; many > rumour indicate there is a good chance next year's iPhone will have both > Face Id and Touch Id, better 5G support and much more. In my opinion the > iPhone 12 is a bit like the iPhone X, something they had to release but in > retrospect an in-between sort of phone. You can probably get a much better > deal in the next week or so on an iPhone 11, it is what I recently upgraded > to from my iPhone 8 and it's amazing simply because the battery is > fantastic. On my 2-year old iPhone 8 I usually got the 20% low battery > warming at around 5 or 6 PM after having had it charged to 100% when I left > for work between 8 and 9 > AM, my new iPhone 11 with similar usage patterns is usually at around 60 > to 70% at that same time of the day. Then of course it's a bit snappier and > it supports all the latest features like screen recognition and so on. > > > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Mr. Ed > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:36 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Okay Sieghard, > > Don’t make me come up to Canada and throttle you. 藍. I am working on > getting a new iPhone 12 so I will be way ahead of you. LOL > > Mr. Ed > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Sieghard Weitzel > *Sent:* Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:15 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Mr. Ed > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus > running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? > > Mr. Ed > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Jennie Facer > *Sent:* Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after > the emoji suffix option. > > > > Jenn > > > > Jenn and Kumi > > > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > > > > Hi, > > Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First > of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice > over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four > finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double > tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is > apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all > selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you > unselect it. > > Mr. Ed > > *From:* viphon
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Hi Sieghard, Yes, I hear you. I have been reading some of the rumors about the 13 iPhone. My wife has an iPhone 11. I applied to get the iPhone from a deaf/blind program so there is no cost to me. Like you said I would rather have the features you are talking about that might be coming on the next gen models. So we will have to see. If I do get one it would be the iPhone 12 is my guess at this time. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 12:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Sorry, Ed, I'm not worried, the border is still closed and in any case I'm like 100 years younger than you so I can take whatever you can dish out If you are getting an iPhone 12 I'm truly sorry for you, waste of money, stick it out for another year or get something cheaper, you'll regret getting the 12 next year. OK, joking aside, I'm sure the iPhone 12 is a nice enough phone, but you are paying a higher price for several features which for most people make no difference, e.g. 5G, maybe a slightly better camera than you would get on an iPhone 11 which again for a blind person makes no difference etc. And if you get a 12 Pro or Pro Max you are rreally throwing away money; many rumour indicate there is a good chance next year's iPhone will have both Face Id and Touch Id, better 5G support and much more. In my opinion the iPhone 12 is a bit like the iPhone X, something they had to release but in retrospect an in-between sort of phone. You can probably get a much better deal in the next week or so on an iPhone 11, it is what I recently upgraded to from my iPhone 8 and it's amazing simply because the battery is fantastic. On my 2-year old iPhone 8 I usually got the 20% low battery warming at around 5 or 6 PM after having had it charged to 100% when I left for work between 8 and 9 AM, my new iPhone 11 with similar usage patterns is usually at around 60 to 70% at that same time of the day. Then of course it's a bit snappier and it supports all the latest features like screen recognition and so on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Okay Sieghard, Don’t make me come up to Canada and throttle you. 藍. I am working on getting a new iPhone 12 so I will be way ahead of you. LOL Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Sorry, Ed, I'm not worried, the border is still closed and in any case I'm like 100 years younger than you so I can take whatever you can dish out If you are getting an iPhone 12 I'm truly sorry for you, waste of money, stick it out for another year or get something cheaper, you'll regret getting the 12 next year. OK, joking aside, I'm sure the iPhone 12 is a nice enough phone, but you are paying a higher price for several features which for most people make no difference, e.g. 5G, maybe a slightly better camera than you would get on an iPhone 11 which again for a blind person makes no difference etc. And if you get a 12 Pro or Pro Max you are rreally throwing away money; many rumour indicate there is a good chance next year's iPhone will have both Face Id and Touch Id, better 5G support and much more. In my opinion the iPhone 12 is a bit like the iPhone X, something they had to release but in retrospect an in-between sort of phone. You can probably get a much better deal in the next week or so on an iPhone 11, it is what I recently upgraded to from my iPhone 8 and it's amazing simply because the battery is fantastic. On my 2-year old iPhone 8 I usually got the 20% low battery warming at around 5 or 6 PM after having had it charged to 100% when I left for work between 8 and 9 AM, my new iPhone 11 with similar usage patterns is usually at around 60 to 70% at that same time of the day. Then of course it's a bit snappier and it supports all the latest features like screen recognition and so on. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 1:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Okay Sieghard, Don’t make me come up to Canada and throttle you. 藍. I am working on getting a new iPhone 12 so I will be way ahead of you. LOL Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed mailto:pink...@abe.midco.net>> wrote: Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com>> wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You do
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Okay Sieghard, Don’t make me come up to Canada and throttle you. 藍. I am working on getting a new iPhone 12 so I will be way ahead of you. LOL Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 11:15 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: vi
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Adding it to the rotor is a great idea, but it's even better to turn it off in Voiceover settings fr everything and then to only turn it on for the apps where you want it temporarily. If you want it permanently for any particular app you can also do this in Settings. I do the same for screen recognition, I have it added to the rotor and off by default except for an app called 3CX. This is fr my business Voip phone system and this app is entirely inaccessible except screen recognition makes it probably 90% accessible, it's absolutely amazing and a great example of how powerful this feature can be. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Gadget Girl Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 5:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Guys! I got rid of those pesky scene descriptions on my 10 S Max by adding 'Describe Images' to my Rotor. Then, whatever App I am in, I turn the Rotor to Describe Image and flick up with one finger until I hear the word 'off'. For example, when turning it off in Mail, VoiceOver will say, 'Describe images off for Mail'; In Phone, Describe Image off for Phone, etc. Flicking again will turn it back on, so be sure to turn the Rotor to something else like characters, words, etc., to avoid this. HTH. Happy Holidays to all! Best regards, Anita K. On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Holly wrote: Mr. Ed: Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not included in the options. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/MWHPR06MB3135BBC21EDAA2AD521CA125C7FD0%40MWHPR06MB3135.namprd06.prod.outlook.com.
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Ah, seems like Ed's iPhone is almost as ancient as he is! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mr. Ed Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 11:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these
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Well thanks a lot Gacha girl. That’s a nice complement. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 22, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Gadget Girl wrote: > > Hi. I just downloaded ios 14.2. If you already suggested this, Kudos to you. > You're just as awesome as your iPhone! Cheers. > > > Best regards, > Anita K. > >>> On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: >>> >> Hi gadget girl. Glad my suggestion works for you. >> >> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! >> On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Gadget Girl wrote: >>> Hi Guys! >>> >>> I got rid of those pesky scene descriptions on my 10 S Max by adding >>> 'Describe Images' to my Rotor. Then, whatever App I am in, I turn the Rotor >>> to Describe Image and flick up with one finger until I hear the word 'off'. >>> For example, when turning it off in Mail, VoiceOver will say, 'Describe >>> images off for Mail'; In Phone, Describe Image off for Phone, etc. Flicking >>> again will turn it back on, so be sure to turn the Rotor to something else >>> like characters, words, etc., to avoid this. HTH. Happy Holidays to all! >>> >>> Best regards, >>> Anita K. >>> > On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Holly wrote: > Mr. Ed: Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not included in the options. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC. >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/22B8CD05-AB38-4073-AECE-4C41EFADCF59%40gmail.com. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are
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Hi. I just downloaded ios 14.2. If you already suggested this, Kudos to you. You're just as awesome as your iPhone! Cheers. Best regards, Anita K. > On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:57 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Hi gadget girl. Glad my suggestion works for you. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > >>> On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Gadget Girl wrote: >>> >> Hi Guys! >> >> I got rid of those pesky scene descriptions on my 10 S Max by adding >> 'Describe Images' to my Rotor. Then, whatever App I am in, I turn the Rotor >> to Describe Image and flick up with one finger until I hear the word 'off'. >> For example, when turning it off in Mail, VoiceOver will say, 'Describe >> images off for Mail'; In Phone, Describe Image off for Phone, etc. Flicking >> again will turn it back on, so be sure to turn the Rotor to something else >> like characters, words, etc., to avoid this. HTH. Happy Holidays to all! >> >> Best regards, >> Anita K. >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Holly wrote: >>> >>> Mr. Ed: >>> >>> Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not >>> included in the options. >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC. >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/22B8CD05-AB38-4073-AECE-4C41EFADCF59%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit
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Hi gadget girl. Glad my suggestion works for you. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 22, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Gadget Girl wrote: > > Hi Guys! > > I got rid of those pesky scene descriptions on my 10 S Max by adding > 'Describe Images' to my Rotor. Then, whatever App I am in, I turn the Rotor > to Describe Image and flick up with one finger until I hear the word 'off'. > For example, when turning it off in Mail, VoiceOver will say, 'Describe > images off for Mail'; In Phone, Describe Image off for Phone, etc. Flicking > again will turn it back on, so be sure to turn the Rotor to something else > like characters, words, etc., to avoid this. HTH. Happy Holidays to all! > > Best regards, > Anita K. > >>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Holly wrote: >>> >> >> Mr. Ed: >> >> Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not >> included in the options. >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/22B8CD05-AB38-4073-AECE-4C41EFADCF59%40gmail.com.
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Hi Guys! I got rid of those pesky scene descriptions on my 10 S Max by adding 'Describe Images' to my Rotor. Then, whatever App I am in, I turn the Rotor to Describe Image and flick up with one finger until I hear the word 'off'. For example, when turning it off in Mail, VoiceOver will say, 'Describe images off for Mail'; In Phone, Describe Image off for Phone, etc. Flicking again will turn it back on, so be sure to turn the Rotor to something else like characters, words, etc., to avoid this. HTH. Happy Holidays to all! Best regards, Anita K. > On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Holly wrote: > > > Mr. Ed: > > Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not > included in the options. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7F84506A-4D1A-4E34-AD00-C04FA6193681%40gmail.com.
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That’s correct. That’s why in my first email I said on iPhone 6s,7, and 8 iPhones. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 1:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Mr. Ed: Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not included in the options. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/011101d6c066%245b5df610%241219e230%24%40abe.midco.net.
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Mr. Ed: Apparently, on phones newer than iPhone 8, the scene description is not included in the options. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1C74BD1EA3FC4305993B3DE69C04DBEB%40HollyPC.
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Hi Holly, On my 6s plus scene description is right above media description. Not sure why it is not on your iPhone. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Holly Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 7:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Mr. Ed. I have 14.2 installed on my SE 2020 and I do not see scene description in the verbosity settings. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/51A6746E980F41FFA3FBC286710D6FB3%40HollyPC <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/51A6746E980F41FFA3FBC286710D6FB3%40HollyPC?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/00c001d6c03b%246ed14420%244c73cc60%24%40abe.midco.net.
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Well scene description is right above Media description on my 6s plus running IOS 14.2. What iPhone do you have? Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jennie Facer Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 7:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On No
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It's no more or less work than to go through Background ap refresh, privacy settings or checking for which apps you want to allow cellular data. It's a one-time thing, you spend 5 minutes or so to do this and then you are done. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky That sounds like an awful lot of work. Andy - Original Message - From: Donna Casteen<mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:25 PM Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky If people would take the time & do what has been suggested, rather gripe & complain, the problem would have been solved days ago for you. Here goes once again Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, rotor & add screen recognition & image description. Why do this? In case you should find yourself in a situation in which these controls would be helpful. With these controls in the rotor, they are easily accessible, literally right at your fingertips. Using the flick gesture these controls can be toggled On/Off in the rotor. If you Do Not foresee yourself using these controls, make sure to remove the controls from the rotor, so that you don’t accidentally turn the controls on. (For those with older phones, in the rotor setting add images & describe images to the rotor, by tapping on each item to select it. By turning the rotor to these controls, a flick will toggle the controls on/off.) Now go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition. Tap to open image description. Here you can turn off image description, change how sensitive content is displayed & in which apps, if any, you want to use image description. Go back to voice recognition. Tap on screen recognition. Here you can turn off screen recognition, choose which apps, if any, you want to use screen recognition. (I have all apps unselected) Go back to voice recognition & tap to toggle text recognition on/off. When Off text in pictures will Not be recognized. Go back to voice recognition, tap on Feedback Style. Here you can choose how images & text are presented to you; by speak, sound or none. This should solve the “night sky” spoken problem. Donna will Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com>> wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not
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Jen if you have a phone later than the eight, then you will not have that you will only have media descriptions you won’t have the seeing one. So the best way I found to work around this is like I have posted in the past, put describe images in your rotor. Then all you have to do is swipe up or down and you will have on or off for any of the ones you do not want described. Once you hit that and do off it will stay that way unless for some reason you hit it back to go on. But otherwise if you don’t do that, you will have it off all the time. In other words if you play dice world and you hear the description just go to your rotor if you have put that on there and swipe down or up and it will say off good luck and hope it works for you. That’s the best we can do at this point. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 21, 2020, at 8:44 AM, Jennie Facer wrote: > > All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the > emoji suffix option. > > Jenn > > Jenn and Kumi > >>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: >>> >> >> Hi, >> Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of >> all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice >> over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four >> finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double >> tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is >> apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all >> selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you >> unselect it. >> Mr. Ed >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a >> way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns >> it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the >> rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today >> and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get >> turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 >> >> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: >> >> Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t >> get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it >> if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked >> is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it >> in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on >> or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just >> click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says >> off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know >> if anyone tries it and good luck. >> >> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! >> >> >> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> >> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver >> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind >> of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. >> That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to >> be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least >> in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it >> configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve >> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely >> be reported to Apple. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie >> Nutt >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder >> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: >> >> I haven't really noticed this until people started ta
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All I have is media descriptions. I don’t have scene descriptions after the emoji suffix option. Jenn Jenn and Kumi > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:29 PM, Mr. Ed wrote: > > > Hi, > Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of > all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice > over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four > finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double > tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is > apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all > selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you > unselect it. > Mr. Ed > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a > way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns > it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the > rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today > and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get > turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t > get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it > if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked > is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it > in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on > or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just > click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says > off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if > anyone tries it and good luck. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver > stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind > of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. > That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be > frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in > the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. > Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off > settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to > Apple. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie > Nutt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder > whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. > > All the best > Angie > > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > > > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the pr
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Mr. Ed. I have 14.2 installed on my SE 2020 and I do not see scene description in the verbosity settings. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/51A6746E980F41FFA3FBC286710D6FB3%40HollyPC.
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Hi, Here is how I think you have to turn it off on the iPhone 6s, 7, 8. First of all you have to have IOS 14.2. Installed. Go to accessibility/boice over/verbosity, then go all the way to the bottom of the list with a four finger tap and it’s the second one up which says scene description. Double tap on this and when in here turn off scene description. Then below that is apply to apps. If you open this up it shows all your apps and they are all selected. If you don’t want scene description turn off on a certain app you unselect it. Mr. Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesda
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I don't see scene description in my rotor action list, just media description. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/17FBF1D7854D4AF2963A65D452AFA07C%40HollyPC.
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Arnold, thank you very much. That was very nice of you. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:38 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > I just talked to Apple Accessibility again, and told them about your > workaround, Dianne. And I let them know that you came up with it, I didn't > want the credit. I didn't give them any identifying information about you, > except your name, and the fact that I read it on the viphone email list, but > hey, you ought to win something. They agree that it should point them in the > right direction to fix it in a future update. This list comes through again. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Thank you > Arnold, glad I could be of some help. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > >>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: >>> >> Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a >> way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns >> it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the >> rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today >> and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get >> turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 >> >> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: >> >> Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t >> get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it >> if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked >> is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it >> in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on >> or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just >> click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says >> off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know >> if anyone tries it and good luck. >> >> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! >> >>>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>>> wrote: >>>> >>> >>> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver >>> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is >>> kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their >>> phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they >>> consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, >>> and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make >>> it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve >>> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely >>> be reported to Apple. >>> >>> -- >>> Christopher (AKA CJ) >>> Chaltain at Gmail >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Angie Nutt >>> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >>> >>> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder >>> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. >>> >>> All the best >>> Angie >>> >>> >>> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: >>> >>> I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. >>> I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I >>> have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since >>> it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does >>> not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever >>> I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. >>> >>> Be well, >>> Wayne Merritt >>> >>> On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: >>> >>> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the >>> older phones. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >>> Arnold Schmidt >>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM >>> To:
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Thank you. That was easy. Maria Campbell lucky1i...@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 11/20/2020 6:50 PM, Reg Sullivan wrote: I figured it out. Go to Voice over, tap on verbosity and roter actions and turn sceen description to off. Sorry if this has been posted already. Regards….Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com> > wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll pro
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I figured it out. Go to Voice over, tap on verbosity and roter actions and turn sceen description to off. Sorry if this has been posted already. Regards….Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 11:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti mailto:diane1lu...@gmail.com> > wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com> > wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> &
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That sounds like an awful lot of work. Andy - Original Message - From: Donna Casteen To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:25 PM Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky If people would take the time & do what has been suggested, rather gripe & complain, the problem would have been solved days ago for you. Here goes once again Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, rotor & add screen recognition & image description. Why do this? In case you should find yourself in a situation in which these controls would be helpful. With these controls in the rotor, they are easily accessible, literally right at your fingertips. Using the flick gesture these controls can be toggled On/Off in the rotor. If you Do Not foresee yourself using these controls, make sure to remove the controls from the rotor, so that you don’t accidentally turn the controls on. (For those with older phones, in the rotor setting add images & describe images to the rotor, by tapping on each item to select it. By turning the rotor to these controls, a flick will toggle the controls on/off.) Now go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition. Tap to open image description. Here you can turn off image description, change how sensitive content is displayed & in which apps, if any, you want to use image description. Go back to voice recognition. Tap on screen recognition. Here you can turn off screen recognition, choose which apps, if any, you want to use screen recognition. (I have all apps unselected) Go back to voice recognition & tap to toggle text recognition on/off. When Off text in pictures will Not be recognized. Go back to voice recognition, tap on Feedback Style. Here you can choose how images & text are presented to you; by speak, sound or none. This should solve the “night sky” spoken problem. Donna will Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote:
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If people would take the time & do what has been suggested, rather gripe & complain, the problem would have been solved days ago for you. Here goes once again Go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, rotor & add screen recognition & image description. Why do this? In case you should find yourself in a situation in which these controls would be helpful. With these controls in the rotor, they are easily accessible, literally right at your fingertips. Using the flick gesture these controls can be toggled On/Off in the rotor. If you Do Not foresee yourself using these controls, make sure to remove the controls from the rotor, so that you don’t accidentally turn the controls on. (For those with older phones, in the rotor setting add images & describe images to the rotor, by tapping on each item to select it. By turning the rotor to these controls, a flick will toggle the controls on/off.) Now go to settings, accessibility, voiceover, voice recognition. Tap to open image description. Here you can turn off image description, change how sensitive content is displayed & in which apps, if any, you want to use image description. Go back to voice recognition. Tap on screen recognition. Here you can turn off screen recognition, choose which apps, if any, you want to use screen recognition. (I have all apps unselected) Go back to voice recognition & tap to toggle text recognition on/off. When Off text in pictures will Not be recognized. Go back to voice recognition, tap on Feedback Style. Here you can choose how images & text are presented to you; by speak, sound or none. This should solve the “night sky” spoken problem. Donna will Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t > get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it > if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked > is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it > in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on > or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just > click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says > off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if > anyone tries it and good luck. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > >>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>> wrote: >>> >> >> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver >> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind >> of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. >> That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to >> be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least >> in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it >> configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve >> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely >> be reported to Apple. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie >> Nutt >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder >> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: >> >> I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. >> I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I >> have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since >> it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does >> not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever >> I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. >> >> Be well, >>
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I just talked to Apple Accessibility again, and told them about your workaround, Dianne. And I let them know that you came up with it, I didn't want the credit. I didn't give them any identifying information about you, except your name, and the fact that I read it on the viphone email list, but hey, you ought to win something. They agree that it should point them in the right direction to fix it in a future update. This list comes through again. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 4:27 PM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Thank you Arnold, glad I could be of some help. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a > way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns > it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the > rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today > and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get > turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t > get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it > if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked > is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it > in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on > or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just > click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says > off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if > anyone tries it and good luck. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > >> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: >> >> >> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver >> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind >> of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. >> That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to >> be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least >> in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it >> configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve >> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely >> be reported to Apple. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie >> Nutt >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder >> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: >> >> I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. >> I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I >> have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since >> it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does >> not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever >> I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. >> >> Be well, >> Wayne Merritt >> >> On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: >> >> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the >> older phones. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> >> >> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If >> you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 >> on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have >> experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the >> image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image >> feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just >> what it is. >
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Thank you Arnold, glad I could be of some help. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 11:58 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a > way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns > it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the > rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today > and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get > turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t > get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it > if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked > is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it > in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on > or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just > click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says > off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if > anyone tries it and good luck. > > Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > >>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain >>> wrote: >>> >> >> I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver >> stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind >> of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. >> That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to >> be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least >> in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it >> configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve >> tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely >> be reported to Apple. >> >> -- >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie >> Nutt >> Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder >> whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >> On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: >> >> I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. >> I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I >> have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since >> it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does >> not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever >> I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. >> >> Be well, >> Wayne Merritt >> >> On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: >> >> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the >> older phones. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> >> >> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If >> you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 >> on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have >> experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the >> image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image >> feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just >> what it is. >> >> >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition >> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. >> >> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll >> probably j
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Well, by god, Dianne, that is a way to fix it! Now, there just has to be a way to turn off image description globally in the way that swiping up turns it off. It is off in settings already, but that swiping up when it is in the rotor does something else. I will write to Apple Accessibility later today and tell them what you figured out. Maybe they will then know how to get turning it off in settings will really turn it off. Thank you very much. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:01 AM, Diane Giannetti wrote: Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver > stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind > of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. > That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be > frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in > the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. > Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off > settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to > Apple. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie > Nutt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder > whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. > > All the best > Angie > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just > what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, i
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Sorry, but that message went out before I had a chance to fix it. I don’t get annoyed with that nice guy Or whatever, but would prefer not to have it if I could have the option. I put this on before. The option I found worked is to put describe image In your rotor. Rotor has it where you can put it in there and when it’s in there it says if you Flick up or down it’ll say on or off. So if you are in some thing that you do not want that to say, just click it off. You don’t have to go in it, but you just go to where it says off and you will be fine. At least, that is what works for me. Let me know if anyone tries it and good luck. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver > stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind > of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. > That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be > frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in > the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. > Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off > settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to > Apple. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie > Nutt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder > whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. > > All the best > Angie > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just > what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. &g
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I didn’t get annoyed With it to have it say the images but I would prefer it not especially when I’m in the middle of a game. I put the sun before and don’t know if anyone tried it or not, but, what I did was to put describe images on my rotor end it will either say on or off when you’re in a Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 20, 2020, at 6:42 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver > stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind > of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. > That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be > frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in > the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. > Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off > settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to > Apple. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie > Nutt > Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder > whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. > > All the best > Angie > > > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just > what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOv
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I kind of feel the same way. It’s not like I have to wait until VoiceOver stops speaking before I can touch or swipe to the next thing, and it is kind of interesting to know what others are seeing when they look at their phone. That being said, I get it when people are annoyed by what they consider to be frivolous chatter, which is why this should be configurable, and at least in the case of image recognition, Apple’s intent was to make it configurable. Therefore, if you’re still hearing this text after you’ve tried to turn off settings like image recognition then it should definitely be reported to Apple. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 5:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt mailto:wcmerr...@gmail.com> > wrote: I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis < <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> deblewi...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favori
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I don’t find it intrusive either; if anything it’s fascinating. I wonder whether it’s trying to recognise the icons on whatever screen I’m on. All the best Angie > On 18 Nov 2020, at 22:26, Wayne Merritt wrote: > > I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. > I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I > have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since > it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does > not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever > I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. > > Be well, > Wayne Merritt > > On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the >> older phones. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> >> >> Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If >> you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 >> on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have >> experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the >> image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image >> feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just >> what it is. >> >> >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis > <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition >> mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. >> >> Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll >> probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. >> >> >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On >> Behalf Of >> Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky >> >> >> >> I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it >> might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the >> screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was >> trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition >> gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, >> didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, >> being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will >> allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others >> who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more >> complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. >> >> >> >> Arnold Schmidt >> >> >> >> Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 >> >> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> >> <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings >> -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Christopher (AKA CJ) >> >> Chaltain at Gmail >> >> >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com><mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> > On >> Behalf Of >> Arnold Schmidt >> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM
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The short answer is they don't yet know what is going on. I was not able to talk directly with the advisor who originally took my complaint, but the person whom I did talk to looked into my account and that was the result he would have given me. Let's hope they can figure it out. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:19 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c96
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It has been my experience with the new features trying to help us with images that we now have to work on finding the images that make no sense and try to weed them out. There should be some kind of process to look at all image descriptions in theapps and make the text descriptions correct. Unfortunately this technology is new and is going to have weird consequences. Just be patient sorry about the chatter LOL! *** MQ *** ***270-776-9871 *** From: viphone@googlegroups.com on behalf of Kimber Gardner Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 1:48:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky It's extra chatter that I prefer not to hear especially since the info is of absolutely no practical use. Kim On 11/19/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken > > But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for > an issue to talk about? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty > hevener > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and > tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested > earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, > or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to > pinpoint any patterns yet. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > HI, > > I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and > I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of > navigation or touch. > > Robin > > > On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. > Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I > encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really > makes a difference. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described > when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a > work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the > issue. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > Hi Deb and all, > > I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have > been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling > works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them > aware of this people can also email them at: > > accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> > > as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. > > I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned > on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on > an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it > doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. > > I do hope it gets fixed soon. > > Take good care. > > Robin > > > On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said
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It's extra chatter that I prefer not to hear especially since the info is of absolutely no practical use. Kim On 11/19/20, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken > > But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for > an issue to talk about? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty > hevener > Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and > tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested > earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, > or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to > pinpoint any patterns yet. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > HI, > > I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and > I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of > navigation or touch. > > Robin > > > On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. > Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I > encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really > makes a difference. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain > <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described > when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a > work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the > issue. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Robin Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > Hi Deb and all, > > I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have > been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling > works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them > aware of this people can also email them at: > > accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> > > as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. > > I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned > on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on > an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it > doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. > > I do hope it gets fixed soon. > > Take good care. > > Robin > > > On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > Arnold Schmidt > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Chr
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Have you called Apple Accessibility? Maybe they have a solution, I don't see it on my iPhone 11 at least no on the lock screen. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an issue to talk about? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher
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If there is extra verbage you don't like and there is no way to get rid of it, e.g. it is still spoken even with image description off then you need to report it to Apple Accessibility. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Viola Bentson Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky To all, I'm not one to say me too, I don't like such messages, but this is pretty annoying. I'm totally blind too, but I don't want to hear this. I have to listen to enough stuff. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well. I am not sure if I heard those things before 14.2. One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that will hear a musical alarm. I did not set any alarm. It seems to go off randomly. Have u heard that? I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is possessed lolol!! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for > the older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to > it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else > running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have > the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the > image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting > to know just what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the > recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so > I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think > that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I > shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said > that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning > on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but > turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is > going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to > duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me > on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are > experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints > they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out > Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:v
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Am totally blind too. Just don’t like auditory clutter lolol!! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Kitty, Sorry I’m totally blind and although I hear it, I just ignore it, I guess if it’s something a VI person can see then I would assume it could get annoying I guess this is where we all differ in how we treat things. Cheers, Simon F From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:24 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an issue to talk about? From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and show
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To all, I'm not one to say me too, I don't like such messages, but this is pretty annoying. I'm totally blind too, but I don't want to hear this. I have to listen to enough stuff. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well. I am not sure if I heard those things before 14.2. One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that will hear a musical alarm. I did not set any alarm. It seems to go off randomly. Have u heard that? I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is possessed lolol!! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for > the older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to > it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else > running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have > the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the > image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting > to know just what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the > recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so > I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think > that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I > shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said > that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning > on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but > turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is > going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to > duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me > on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are > experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints > they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out > Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is > attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be > its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, > sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be re
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Wayne, I have thesirius xm ap as well. I am not sure if I heard those things before 14.2. One thing I have noticed since installing sirius xm ap is that will hear a musical alarm. I did not set any alarm. It seems to go off randomly. Have u heard that? I swear, am beginning to wonder if my phone is possessed lolol!! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Wayne Merritt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 5:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for > the older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to > it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else > running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have > the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the > image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting > to know just what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the > recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so > I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think > that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I > shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said > that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning > on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but > turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is > going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to > duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me > on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are > experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints > they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out > Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is > attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be > its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, > sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, > speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE > 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 > phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple > Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody > answered. I will keep trying. > > > > Arno
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Yes, but I get the messages even though weathergods is not active. Good thinking, though. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 9:51 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Do you have the app Weather Gods? Andy - Original Message - From: kitty hevener <mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:00 PM Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@go
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Sorry about the mistake I made I said if you have describe image in your brother it should have been rotor. LOL. That’s what I get for not checking it over first. LOL. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:47 PM, Diane Giannetti wrote: > > Brother, -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A7037394-2BF2-4400-85D0-13837BBA71DA%40gmail.com.
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Hi Kitty, Sorry I’m totally blind and although I hear it, I just ignore it, I guess if it’s something a VI person can see then I would assume it could get annoying I guess this is where we all differ in how we treat things. Cheers, Simon F From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 6:24 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an issue to talk about? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I find it distracting and am looking for a way to get rid of it. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2020 12:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an issue to talk about? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition.
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Ok, so a lot of people are seeing / hearing this spoken But does it really matter that it’s being spoken or are we just looking for an issue to talk about? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of kitty hevener Sent: Thursday, 19 November 2020 3:00 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com<mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com>> wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
If you have described images in your Brother, whatever app you are in if you don’t want hear the description, just swipe up or down to where it says off and that should work. Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone! > On Nov 18, 2020, at 9:00 PM, kitty hevener wrote: > > > I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and > tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested > earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, > or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to > pinpoint any patterns yet. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin > Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > HI, > > I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I > encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation > or touch. > > Robin > > > > On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. > Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I > encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really > makes a difference. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described > when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a > work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the > issue. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin > Frost > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > Hi Deb and all, > > I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been > extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works > best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware > of this people can also email them at: > > accessibil...@apple.com > > as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. > > I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned > on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on > an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it > doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. > > I do hope it gets fixed soon. > > Take good care. > > Robin > > > > On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold > Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave > a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't > turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that > he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get > back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are > experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints > they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> > Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Gmail > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold > Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to > describe an image. Besides night sky which
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Do you have the app Weather Gods? Andy - Original Message - From: kitty hevener To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 6:00 PM Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I h
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I am having the same problem. Only, sometimes mine will say sky, and tonight, it said water. I went in to voice over and made change suggested earlier in thread. It did not make a difference. It seems like sky, water, or god knows what else will come along, just pop up. Have not been able to pinpoint any patterns yet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 8:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with A
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HI, I have to agree with Arnold because all I have to do is unlock my phone and I encounter it so it seems to have nothing to do with the method of navigation or touch. Robin On 11/18/2020 9:12 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Se
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I haven't really noticed this until people started talking about it. I've gotten the "sky" information in an icon in the Sirius/XM app. I have an iPhone 11 with iOS 14.2. Usually I ignore the sky info since it is not what I'm listening for and extra information. Plus, it does not seem that intrusive to me, just a short blurb added onto whatever I'm doing. I can see how it would get annoying though. Be well, Wayne Merritt On 11/18/20, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: > Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the > older phones. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If > you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 > on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have > experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the > image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image > feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just > what it is. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis <mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition > mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. > > Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll > probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it > might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the > screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was > trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition > gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, > didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, > being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will > allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others > who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more > complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings > -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. > > > > -- > > Christopher (AKA CJ) > > Chaltain at Gmail > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Arnold Schmidt > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to > describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has > told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak > screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running > 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried > twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods > both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. > > > > Arnold Schmidt > > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson <mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. > > > > Viola > > > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Reg Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com&
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Yeah I’m following up on this. All the theories are kind of blown for the older phones. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:22 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis mailto:deblewi...@gmail.com> > wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Ma
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Deb, I was hoping I had saved this message so that I could reply to it. If you haven't already done so, I would urge you, and anybody else running 14.2 on an older phone, to contact Apple Accessibility, being that you have experienced these extra descriptions on a phone that does not have the image description stuff. It may be something about 14.2, and the image feature, in reality, is not the problem. It will be interesting to know just what it is. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself.
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I hear it without doing anything. When I use my scale app, it reads the weight and then starts talking about the sky unsolicited. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 3:05 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups
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I’m seeing this on a 10r. I’ve had: night sky, moon view and document. All the best Angie > On 17 Nov 2020, at 22:57, Arnold Schmidt wrote: > > I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to > describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has > told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. > I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak > screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running > 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried > twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods > both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. > > Arnold Schmidt > > > Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 > > On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: > > > I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. > > Viola > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg > Sullivan > Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? > “night sky” > > Anyone out there know what it represents? > > Regards…..Reg > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Noe Villeda > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky > > Hello Listers, > > What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? > > Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along > with flashlight and battery usage? > > Noe > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark
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It doesn't make much difference whether I am swiping or exploring by touch. Sometimes, I think it is slightly less when exploring by touch, but then I encounter a bunch of it when exploring by touch, so I don't think it really makes a difference. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:05 AM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, pleas
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Go to Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition, as I mentioned below. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky How do you turn image description off? I have night mode turned off on my phone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
For those of you having the problem, do you still hear the image described when exploring by touch or only when swiping left and right? This may be a work around for the issue and may give Apple support another clue to the issue. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Robin Frost Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2020 1:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com <mailto:accessibil...@apple.com> as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with fl
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Hi Deb and all, I too have noticed that wait times when calling Apple Accessibility have been extremely long of late. And while it's been my experience that calling works best I did also want to point out that in the interest of making them aware of this people can also email them at: accessibil...@apple.com as well if holding for someone on the phone isn't a feasible option. I too am experiencing this issue and while I have screen recognition turned on as I needed it in an app image recognition is off. I experienced this on an iPhone 11, an iPhone 11 Pro Max and a 12 Pro Max so at least by me it doesn't seem to be specific to one generation of phone. I do hope it gets fixed soon. Take good care. Robin On 11/17/2020 9:32 PM, Deb Cook Lewis wrote: Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson <fireka...@gmail.com> wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan
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Thanks Arnold I will do that. I get it a lot! Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: h
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How do you turn image description off? I have night mode turned off on my phone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 9:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraq
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Arnold: I just opened my AIRA app and Voice Over said ‘Animal’. Will report this to Apple accessibility. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/A649F251970C41649BB729D6E2E3CD68%40HollyPC.
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Just thinking about this, By any chance do you guys have the night mode turned on on your devices? Could this be a night mode related screen background which during the day changes to a daylight related background. I know I get the night sky one but it doesn’t worry me as it doesn’t affect my screen useage etc. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Viola Bentson Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2020 12:13 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hi Arnold. I have a 12 pro max and I get the same thing. And I got it before I had my new phone. Please let us know what you find out. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com>> wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium
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Yeah that makes sense except that my phone doesn’t even have the recognition mode because it’s too old although it did get 14.2. Every time I call I’m holding 90 minutes before someone answers, so I’ll probably just live with this, but it is truly annoying. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 6:20 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain mailto:chalt...@gmail.com> > wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you fe
Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I just talked to somebody at Apple Accessibility, and he does think that it might be some kind of problem with image description. When I shared the screen and showed him examples of what it is doing, he said that yes, it was trying to describe an image that was there. Turning on image recognition gave a better description of the image, but turning it off, as it were, didn't turn it completely off. He is going to talk to somebody about it, being that he was able to duplicate the problem on his device, and will allegedly get back to me on Thursday, early evening. He said that the others who are experiencing this should report it to them, being that the more complaints they have about a given issue might make it seem more important. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 6:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla
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Not on my phone, It’s too old for that. Mine is an 8+ and I believe you have to have the 10 for this, but in any case, I don’t have the option. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:59 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=foot
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Isn’t this the new image recognition feature in IOS 14? Check out Settings -> Accessibility -> VoiceOver -> VoiceOver Recognition. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Gmail From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 4:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...
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Well I am getting it in my weight scale app. I’m not seeing it in any other app. Maybe it thinks my weight has gone sky high? It’s the only app I’m seeing it in. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Andy Baracco Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 3:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky i wonder if it has to do with detection of ambient light. Andy - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt <mailto:als5...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
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i wonder if it has to do with detection of ambient light. Andy - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01d6bd17%24d7823320%2486869960%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on
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Hi Arnold. I have a 12 pro max and I get the same thing. And I got it before I had my new phone. Please let us know what you find out. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr..
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It has only happened one time so far on my phone. I suspect it has something to do with the weather wigit or with the wallpaper. In my case it was actually showing itself irrelevantly in an app that has no context of sky. So I’m thinking there’s a setting involved here since I’d have no clue what you’re talking about except that it happened to me today for the first time, and only once. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 2:57 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson mailto:fireka...@gmail.com> > wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owner
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No. It happens on my iPhone7 as well. Maria Campbell lucky1i...@gmail.com All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing. --Edmund Burke On 11/17/2020 5:57 PM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0759d0b4-419c-cd5c-ce3c-3fdc7c723298%40gmail.com.
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I am getting it on a lot of screens. It is as if VoiceOver is attempting to describe an image. Besides night sky which seems to be its favorite, it has told me such things as adult, moon, document, sunglasses, and baseball hat. I have everything that remotely might be related to images, emojis, speak screen, etc turned off, and it still occurs. This is on an SE 20, running 14.2. I wonder if it is only happening on the SE 20 phones? I have tried twice today to get in touch with Apple Accessibility, waiting long periods both times before disconnecting, nobody answered. I will keep trying. Arnold Schmidt Sent from Arnold's iPhone S E 20 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:28 PM, Viola Bentson wrote: I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01d6bd17%24d7823320%2486869960%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group.
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What is meant when VO says, “Blue Sky Rainbow” and a beep is heard when I am on the widgets page? Love in Christ Marty If we view this present life as our primary goal, we will agree with William Shakespeare who said: “Life is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.” From TODAY IN THE WORD June 1, 2020 From: Viola Bentson Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 1:28 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01d6bd17%24d7823320%2486869960%24%40gmail.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/1A2027BB03EB4C1287342498270E978B%40MartyPC.
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I do too and it’s irritating hope someone can tell me how to turn it off. Viola From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Reg Sullivan Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2020 11:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/000f01d6bd17%24d7823320%2486869960%24%40gmail.com.
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I’m seeing this in other places as well and have no idea what it means? “night sky” Anyone out there know what it represents? Regards…..Reg From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Monday, November 16, 2020 2:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer> . -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/006b01d6bd14%24fa9c9650%24efd5c2f0%24%40rogers.com.
RE: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
I’d say it’s one of your wall paper vbackgrounds under settings / display From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Noe Villeda Sent: Tuesday, 17 November 2020 8:06 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: I O S 14.2 and Night Sky Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn’t show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com<https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com?utm_medium=email_source=footer>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/SYCPR01MB4048D46B3C93700FE5FD09CA8AE30%40SYCPR01MB4048.ausprd01.prod.outlook.com.
I O S 14.2 and Night Sky
Hello Listers, What is the night sky that always shows up when I have my iPhone locked? Also, is there a way to take it out of the screen, so it doesn't show along with flashlight and battery usage? Noe -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/001601d6bc4b%2487d3ebb0%24977bc310%24%40gmail.com.