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Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ
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Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm
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Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store
Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make this process difficult. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating
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Hi Joseph, I think you are splitting hairs here. You say the attribute information can be read by Voiceover, but you can't provide exactly which gestures or keyboard commands produce this information. I think what you are saying is that Voiceover could read this information if the developers made it accessible which of course is the same as the attribute information is inaccessible. If this still is not what you mean then I guess nobody really gets your point. Also, just FYI, Richard and Jonathan pointed out you don't need an @outlook.com or @live.com email address to set up a Microsoft account. You say that this is not what you meant and they were misreading your original email where you said: You will need a Microsoft related account such as an email address which ends with @live.com or @outlook.com. Yes, you say you need a Microsoft account and such as @live.com or @outlook.com. But if, as you always like to point out, you want to explain stuff for people so there are no misunderstandings or you want to correct others who give information which is not complete, you should have maybe phrased it in a less ambiguous way: You will need a Microsoft account which could be an email address you can set up like @outlook.com, @live.com, @hotmail.com etc. or you can also set up a Microsoft account using your existing email address. I bet Richard would have found no fault with that statement hence you would have not had to try and defend it, Jonathan would not have felt he should have supported Richard on that and so on. In short, it would have probably meant at least 5 or 6 less messages on a busy list. I know I am probably offending you again by writing this as I recall that a couple of months ago there were similar situations where you reacted very defensively if anybody corrected you on anything and then you sort of disappeared completely for a couple of months. I really don't think Richard was trying to insult you when he added that you don't need an @outlook.com or @live.com email address when you create a Microsoft account and maybe a reply like Thanks, Richard, for clarifying, you can of course create a Microsoft account with your own email and maybe that wasn't clear in my message would have been an alternative response. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make this process difficult. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2
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Hi Sieghard, for me the fundamental point here, and I'm pretty confident you and most competent screen reader users will agree, is that there are real dangers in expecting every individual app developer to have to compensate for the deficiencies of a screen reader by having to make their own decisions about whether, when, and how to voice formatting attributes. Being able to query attributes is a core screen reader function, and now that word processing is really becoming viable on iOS, we need to point this out constructively to Apple I think. Then they can put in place a UI that will work with any app the user chooses. Given that such commands are already in OS X, Apple knows what to do. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:47 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Joseph, I think you are splitting hairs here. You say the attribute information can be read by Voiceover, but you can't provide exactly which gestures or keyboard commands produce this information. I think what you are saying is that Voiceover could read this information if the developers made it accessible which of course is the same as the attribute information is inaccessible. If this still is not what you mean then I guess nobody really gets your point. Also, just FYI, Richard and Jonathan pointed out you don't need an @outlook.com or @live.com email address to set up a Microsoft account. You say that this is not what you meant and they were misreading your original email where you said: You will need a Microsoft related account such as an email address which ends with @live.com or @outlook.com. Yes, you say you need a Microsoft account and such as @live.com or @outlook.com. But if, as you always like to point out, you want to explain stuff for people so there are no misunderstandings or you want to correct others who give information which is not complete, you should have maybe phrased it in a less ambiguous way: You will need a Microsoft account which could be an email address you can set up like @outlook.com, @live.com, @hotmail.com etc. or you can also set up a Microsoft account using your existing email address. I bet Richard would have found no fault with that statement hence you would have not had to try and defend it, Jonathan would not have felt he should have supported Richard on that and so on. In short, it would have probably meant at least 5 or 6 less messages on a busy list. I know I am probably offending you again by writing this as I recall that a couple of months ago there were similar situations where you reacted very defensively if anybody corrected you on anything and then you sort of disappeared completely for a couple of months. I really don't think Richard was trying to insult you when he added that you don't need an @outlook.com or @live.com email address when you create a Microsoft account and maybe a reply like Thanks, Richard, for clarifying, you can of course create a Microsoft account with your own email and maybe that wasn't clear in my message would have been an alternative response. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make this process difficult. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo
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Hi, you say the attribute information can be read, but of course, you don't say how. How does this make anything clear? Neal -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make this process difficult. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:17 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where
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Hi Jonathan, I totally agree. Apple obviously wants people to use iOS devices for word processing and maybe even for spreadsheet and presentations otherwise they wouldn’t offer Pages, Numbers and Keynote free of charge. Microsoft obviously feels the same way and therefore accessibility for these apps needs to catch up. Sometimes when I go to an email or note Voiceover reads information about the font, font size and so on, but I don’t know of a way to ask for this information on demand. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Sieghard, for me the fundamental point here, and I'm pretty confident you and most competent screen reader users will agree, is that there are real dangers in expecting every individual app developer to have to compensate for the deficiencies of a screen reader by having to make their own decisions about whether, when, and how to voice formatting attributes. Being able to query attributes is a core screen reader function, and now that word processing is really becoming viable on iOS, we need to point this out constructively to Apple I think. Then they can put in place a UI that will work with any app the user chooses. Given that such commands are already in OS X, Apple knows what to do. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:47 am, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca mailto:siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Joseph, I think you are splitting hairs here. You say the attribute information can be read by Voiceover, but you can't provide exactly which gestures or keyboard commands produce this information. I think what you are saying is that Voiceover could read this information if the developers made it accessible which of course is the same as the attribute information is inaccessible. If this still is not what you mean then I guess nobody really gets your point. Also, just FYI, Richard and Jonathan pointed out you don't need an @outlook.com http://outlook.com or @live.com http://live.com email address to set up a Microsoft account. You say that this is not what you meant and they were misreading your original email where you said: You will need a Microsoft related account such as an email address which ends with @live.com http://live.com or @outlook.com http://outlook.com . Yes, you say you need a Microsoft account and such as @live.com http://live.com or @outlook.com http://outlook.com . But if, as you always like to point out, you want to explain stuff for people so there are no misunderstandings or you want to correct others who give information which is not complete, you should have maybe phrased it in a less ambiguous way: You will need a Microsoft account which could be an email address you can set up like @outlook.com http://outlook.com , @live.com http://live.com , @hotmail.com http://hotmail.com etc. or you can also set up a Microsoft account using your existing email address. I bet Richard would have found no fault with that statement hence you would have not had to try and defend it, Jonathan would not have felt he should have supported Richard on that and so on. In short, it would have probably meant at least 5 or 6 less messages on a busy list. I know I am probably offending you again by writing this as I recall that a couple of months ago there were similar situations where you reacted very defensively if anybody corrected you on anything and then you sort of disappeared completely for a couple of months. I really don't think Richard was trying to insult you when he added that you don't need an @outlook.com http://outlook.com or @live.com http://live.com email address when you create a Microsoft account and maybe a reply like Thanks, Richard, for clarifying, you can of course create a Microsoft account with your own email and maybe that wasn't clear in my message would have been an alternative response. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joseph FreeTech Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available You're redirecting my point to whatever goal you have in mind, which is not relevant to the current discussion since I said nothing about Bluetooth keyboards or gestures as a means of accessing this information. I simply stated the attribute information can be read by VoiceOver and that it might only be an issue or limitation with the software developer and not VoiceOver as you previously claimed. Again, I'm trying to correct misunderstandings but these lists make
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Joseph, if you are saying that the attributes are read by default in google sheets, and there is no way to not have them be read, then that hardly seems like a decent solution. If, on the other hand, you are saying that it is possible to have such attributes read on demand, so to speak, that is, it is possible for a user to get this info when she wants it, then that would be good. Please clarify which is the case, and if it is the later, then please elaborate on how such user queries can be made. I am 99% sure this can’t be done at this time as a VO user with ios, but would love to be proven wrong. Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Jonathan, Firstly, I completely agree that announcing text attributes (e.g. at your cursor location) is really a screen reader feature rather than something developers should be implementing on an application basis. Therefore, I don’t fault Microsoft Word at all for having this limitation, since every other text editor on iOS would have the same limitation. I do however have a somewhat related question. You described the accessibility of the new Office as being outstanding. Are you having better luck with it than I am? In Word, I cannot edit tables or do anything beyond basic text editing. Editing tables with VO certainly should be doable, because you can do it in Excel as well as in Pages and Numbers for iOS. Secondly, it is clear that PowerPoint has in-built accessibility features both when presenting and editing presentations; however, on an iPhone 5S running iOS 8.1 attempting to use PowerPoint with VO causes PowerPoint to crash too often to really be usable. Are you experiencing more desirable behaviour? As I noted in a prior message, I’ve had the best luck with Excel, which seems to work really well with VO. Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Grant, I've used Excel and Word so far, but have yet to use PowerPoint. The way I've been working with Word is to create documents with it, then bring them back to the computer to format with JAWS where I can use Text Analyser, get verification of formatting etc. I've not used tables as I seldom need to with my kind of writing, but if they're not working with VO, then yes, definite room for improvement there. The ability to work with text, select it and manipulate it is very good though. I think it's clear the accessibility is more than accidental, it's very much evident when you use Excel, so hopefully with feedback any deficiencies can be improved upon. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 8:14 am, Grant Hardy grantha...@outlook.com wrote: Hi Jonathan, Firstly, I completely agree that announcing text attributes (e.g. at your cursor location) is really a screen reader feature rather than something developers should be implementing on an application basis. Therefore, I don’t fault Microsoft Word at all for having this limitation, since every other text editor on iOS would have the same limitation. I do however have a somewhat related question. You described the accessibility of the new Office as being outstanding. Are you having better luck with it than I am? In Word, I cannot edit tables or do anything beyond basic text editing. Editing tables with VO certainly should be doable, because you can do it in Excel as well as in Pages and Numbers for iOS. Secondly, it is clear that PowerPoint has in-built accessibility features both when presenting and editing presentations; however, on an iPhone 5S running iOS 8.1 attempting to use PowerPoint with VO causes PowerPoint to crash too often to really be usable. Are you experiencing more desirable behaviour? As I noted in a prior message, I’ve had the best luck with Excel, which seems to work really well with VO. Grant -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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This is kind of interesting. If using a bluetooth keyboard, when turning on keyboard help with control option K, when you press Control option T, voiceover says, “Output Text Style.” This seems like that some kind of formatting font or style should be indicated when you press that key, which by the way, is the same hot key for getting format and font information on the Mac. But it does not seem to work in Microsoft Word for IOS. From: Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry
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Is there a way that you can tell if specific formatting options have actually been applied? Like the Insert-F command with most screen readers? Thanks, Ari On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https
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Hi Jim, what a great catch. I've tried that command before and never had it work, but it's interesting that it is actually in Keyboard Help. So I wonder whether it's an error that it's listed there, or a bug that it doesn't work? Oh, while I'm writing, I finished Exploding the Phone a couple of months ago. You're a living legend! Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 11/11/2014, at 9:13 am, Jim Fettgather jimfettgat...@gmail.com wrote: This is kind of interesting. If using a bluetooth keyboard, when turning on keyboard help with control option K, when you press Control option T, voiceover says, “Output Text Style.” This seems like that some kind of formatting font or style should be indicated when you press that key, which by the way, is the same hot key for getting format and font information on the Mac. But it does not seem to work in Microsoft Word for IOS. From: Jonathan Mosen mailto:jmo...@mosen.org Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 12:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Joseph, then perhaps you could please tell us the Bluetooth keyboard commands and gestures to query the font attributes of the focussed item in iOS? We'd all be grateful. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 11/11/2014, at 7:13 am, Joseph FreeTech joseph.freet...@gmail.com mailto:joseph.freet...@gmail.com wrote: Not true. This issue doesn't appear to be entirely a VoiceOver limitation but one most likely having to do with software developer. As I've written before, the Google Sheets app can convey various text attributes such as bold, italics, underlined, font, font size, etc--I'm listening to these attributes right now. Joseph - Original Message - From: Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org mailto:jmo...@mosen.org To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 9:57 AM Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org http://mosen.org/ On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would
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Oh, darn. I will definitely be contacting Apple about this for a future VoiceOver update. Thanks, Ari On Nov 10, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Eileen. I agree. Microsoft has done an outstanding job in terms of the accessibility of these apps, but now we're up against the limitations of VoiceOver for iOS, in that there's o way to query the formatting, attributes etc, of text you're working with. Given that the iWork suite is also a pretty good experience, I hope Apple addresses these issues for VoiceOver in iOS 9. The best hope we have of that happening is to request it of Apple Accessibility. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 8/11/2014, at 6:14 am, Eileen Misrahi eileen.misr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files
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Hi all, there is a Microsoft office suite available for nine dollars and something. Outlook is listed as one of the apps. I would like to know though please where I can find the individual apps. I only want the Microsoft office word one not the others. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you do a search for it with MS office the suite is the first one listed. God bless, Wren LangleyPS it says it also works with Google docs Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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All the individual Microsoft apps, Word, xcel and Power Point are free for basic creating and editing. If you want all the features you have to have an Office 365 subscription. The pricing varies so you will have to look that up, but here is the link to the Microsoft Word app. It seems accessible with VoiceOver but I have not had time to really dig in to it, but since it is free, anyone can check it out, risk free: Microsoft Word by Microsoft Corporation https://appsto.re/us/PWh9I.i HTH, Richard The only limits are those of vision. Sent from my iPhone 5S On Nov 7, 2014, at 4:03 AM, Wren Langley wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net wrote: Hi all, there is a Microsoft office suite available for nine dollars and something. Outlook is listed as one of the apps. I would like to know though please where I can find the individual apps. I only want the Microsoft office word one not the others. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you do a search for it with MS office the suite is the first one listed. God bless, Wren LangleyPS it says it also works with Google docs Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate
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I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post
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After playing with the microsoft word and excel apps, I am very proud to say that they seem to be totally accessible with voice over on my iPhone. I have not tested them out with a bluetooth keyboard, so someone else will have to report on that. In excel, you can turn on virtical navigation on the rotor, and navigate the rows and columns as you would on a keyboard using the arrow keys. As it has been said, the apps are free to download, originally you only have viewing capabilities, but all you have to to do is sign in with your microsoft account information, and that will allow you to create and edit documents. Now if you do not have a microsoft account, it does not cost anything to create one, and you can do this from within the app or on the web, whichever you prefer. To unlock all functionality, you have to have a microsoft 360 subscription, and I do not know what specific features are unlock with a subscription. But after looking in the app, it gives you 2 choices in subscriptions. $7 per month lets you have the subscription on one computer, one tablet, and one phone. $10 a month lets you have the subscription on 5 computers, 5 tablets, and 5 phones. If I am not mistaken, both subscriptions keeps you up to date so you are always running the most current versions of the software. So there is no more going out and having to buy new versions. So you are basically just paying as you go instead of paying all at one time. I hope all of this helps, and I will continue to play around with these apps and report anything I find. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: What does each app cost? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 07:08, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: So, is Microsoft Word actually accessible with VoiceOver now? Thanks. Penny On 11/6/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don't see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, I just did a search for Microsoft, and they all came up individually. Jenn TO THE WORLD YOU ARE SOMEONE, BUT TO SOMEONE YOU ARE THE WORLD! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Wren Langley Sent: Friday, November 07, 2014 5:04 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hi all, there is a Microsoft office suite available for nine dollars and something. Outlook is listed as one of the apps. I would like to know though please where I can find the individual apps. I only want the Microsoft office word one not the others. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you do a search for it with MS office the suite is the first one listed. God bless, Wren LangleyPS it says it also works with Google docs Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com
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Hi Richard, I'm curious on what you find. I was able to select the attribute in the list, but there was no method to know that it was inserted into the doc. The 2 Items I tried were bullets and heading style 1 in the free version. That's why I posted in the first place. Thanks and I look forward to your next post regarding MS Word. Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 6:53 AM, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: The options for bold and all that seem to show up in the free version, but I have not had time to see if they actually work. I'd suggest trying them and see what happens. It looks like most of the basic formatting is included. As for Outlook, it is available with the Office 365 subscription. I think the sbuscriptions start at $9.95 per month, (there might be a discount if you buy by the year) so unless someone is a real power user of the office products, and don't mind spending around $100 per year for the privilege, they should go for it. Richard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Eileen Misrahi Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 6:36 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Hello, In response to using Outlook, it's a matter of its value to the user and for how long one has been familiar with the software. It's all a matter of preference. On another note, I started dabbling with the MS Word app on my phone. My question to the list is: In order to use various attributes in Word such as heading styles, bullets, bold, underline, and etc. Does one need a 365 account? I use a tremendous amount of markup when creating training materials and documents for work, but if the free app can take care of it that would be sweet. I'm not opposed to purchasing the product, but if I can get by for free this time, it would be great. Thanks. Best, Eileen Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 5:20 AM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I would agree the native Mail app is pretty good. I've experimented with a few different mail apps on IOS and Android, and nothing really comes close. That being said, there are a lot of apps out there for a reason. Not every app is to everyone's taste, and I can see where an Outlook app might have some features that would appeal to someone that wouldn't be in the native Mail app on the iPhone. On 11/07/2014 01:42 AM, Christopher Hallsworth wrote: Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send
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Do you know if these subscriptions are in-app purchases? Just curious and not a dealbreaker for me at least if you can't. I have an active subscription at the moment which am currently leaving to expire this coming February, but I may renew it again who knows. On 07/11/2014 15:32, Chris Chaffin wrote: After playing with the microsoft word and excel apps, I am very proud to say that they seem to be totally accessible with voice over on my iPhone. I have not tested them out with a bluetooth keyboard, so someone else will have to report on that. In excel, you can turn on virtical navigation on the rotor, and navigate the rows and columns as you would on a keyboard using the arrow keys. As it has been said, the apps are free to download, originally you only have viewing capabilities, but all you have to to do is sign in with your microsoft account information, and that will allow you to create and edit documents. Now if you do not have a microsoft account, it does not cost anything to create one, and you can do this from within the app or on the web, whichever you prefer. To unlock all functionality, you have to have a microsoft 360 subscription, and I do not know what specific features are unlock with a subscription. But after looking in the app, it gives you 2 choices in subscriptions. $7 per month lets you have the subscription on one computer, one tablet, and one phone. $10 a month lets you have the subscription on 5 computers, 5 tablets, and 5 phones. If I am not mistaken, both subscriptions keeps you up to date so you are always running the most current versions of the software. So there is no more going out and having to buy new versions. So you are basically just paying as you go instead of paying all at one time. I hope all of this helps, and I will continue to play around with these apps and report anything I find. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: What does each app cost? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 07:08, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: So, is Microsoft Word actually accessible with VoiceOver now? Thanks. Penny On 11/6/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don't see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, Yes, you can make the subscription purchase from within the app. I also noticed a restore purchase button if you had to delete the app and reinstall it. Hope this helps. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 2:51 PM, Christopher Hallsworth challswor...@icloud.com wrote: Do you know if these subscriptions are in-app purchases? Just curious and not a dealbreaker for me at least if you can't. I have an active subscription at the moment which am currently leaving to expire this coming February, but I may renew it again who knows. On 07/11/2014 15:32, Chris Chaffin wrote: After playing with the microsoft word and excel apps, I am very proud to say that they seem to be totally accessible with voice over on my iPhone. I have not tested them out with a bluetooth keyboard, so someone else will have to report on that. In excel, you can turn on virtical navigation on the rotor, and navigate the rows and columns as you would on a keyboard using the arrow keys. As it has been said, the apps are free to download, originally you only have viewing capabilities, but all you have to to do is sign in with your microsoft account information, and that will allow you to create and edit documents. Now if you do not have a microsoft account, it does not cost anything to create one, and you can do this from within the app or on the web, whichever you prefer. To unlock all functionality, you have to have a microsoft 360 subscription, and I do not know what specific features are unlock with a subscription. But after looking in the app, it gives you 2 choices in subscriptions. $7 per month lets you have the subscription on one computer, one tablet, and one phone. $10 a month lets you have the subscription on 5 computers, 5 tablets, and 5 phones. If I am not mistaken, both subscriptions keeps you up to date so you are always running the most current versions of the software. So there is no more going out and having to buy new versions. So you are basically just paying as you go instead of paying all at one time. I hope all of this helps, and I will continue to play around with these apps and report anything I find. Chris Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 1:05 AM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: What does each app cost? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 07:08, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: So, is Microsoft Word actually accessible with VoiceOver now? Thanks. Penny On 11/6/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don't see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com
Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
Excel, Word, and PowerPoint only. I'm not sure why one would need Outlook on their iPhone as the native Mail app seems to work quite nicely for me. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
Would these work on a Mac, or just the phone???At 03:49 PM 11/6/2014, you wrote: Excel, Word, and PowerPoint only. I'm not sure why one would need Outlook on their iPhone as the native Mail app seems to work quite nicely for me. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate
RE: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
These are iOS apps. I assume if you want to run the Microsoft Office programs on the Mac you have to purchase Microsoft Office for the Mac. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anna Byrne Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 7:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available Would these work on a Mac, or just the phone???At 03:49 PM 11/6/2014, you wrote: Excel, Word, and PowerPoint only. I'm not sure why one would need Outlook on their iPhone as the native Mail app seems to work quite nicely for me. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 2:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-arc hive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscribe@googlegro ups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/vip hone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-arch ive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscribe@googlegrou ps.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viph one. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-arch ive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscribe@googlegrou ps.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
RE: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
So, is Microsoft Word actually accessible with VoiceOver now? Thanks. Penny On 11/6/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don't see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
What does each app cost? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Nov 7, 2014, at 07:08, Penny Reeder penny.ree...@gmail.com wrote: So, is Microsoft Word actually accessible with VoiceOver now? Thanks. Penny On 11/6/14, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don't see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available
Sorry but I have to agree here! Mail is the one and only app I would use under iOS, not because it's packed full of features and of course totally accessible; it's also built into the operating system! On 07/11/2014 04:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: As far as I know there is no Outlook for iOS. I also don’t see any need for it since the native Mail app is fantastic and I wish Outlook had some of its features. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Hank Smith, and Seeing-eye dog Iona Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2014 12:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Microsoft Office Apps Now Individually Available do they have a outlook app only or is it just word excel and the like? On 11/6/2014 1:52 PM, Alan Lemly wrote: I was checking through my Apps Store updates today and noticed that the Office Mobile app stated that the individual applications were now available. When selecting update, I was taken to a screen where I could download Excel, Word, and PowerPoint separately. Each app provides access to files on Dropbox and allows editing as well when the user has a Microsoft account. I did not sign up for it but a premium service is also available. I'm not a fan of editing Office documents on my phone and prefer to use my computer for this but I know several who are interested in doing so. I will say that I opened both Excel and Word files using these new separate apps and was very impressed with their accessibility and how easy reading my files seemed to be especially with Excel. I'm sure others will weigh in with comments on these Office apps as they put them through their paces. Alan Lemly -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
