Re: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-14 Thread James English
Hi,

Tunein have sent me a promotional email to get me to sign up (to a
service I'm already signed up to) in order to listen to every nfl
game.
Your guess which one is correct is as good as mine.

On 8/12/22, Richard Turner  wrote:
> Steve,
> Yes, if you go back to the original message that included the letter from
> TuneIn, they will continue carrying some prime time games; but they will not
> have all the teams due to the NFL contracting with other services.
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>> On Aug 12, 2022, at 5:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone
>>  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune
>> In Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version.
>>
>> Steve Cook, CPM
>> SC Commission for the Blind
>> Assistive Technology Consultant
>> Newsline Administrator
>> 1430 Confederate Avenue
>> Columbia, SC 29201
>> Office: (803) 898-8788
>> Cell: (803) 908-3856
>> E-Mail: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I
>> can’t bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I
>> click on the subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to
>> NFL Plus Premium, and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to
>> listen to replays of games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games
>> etc. is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
>> I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that
>> ends November 4.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Richard
>> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
>> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>>
>>
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much
>> as they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:
>> I brought up the NFL app.
>> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure
>> out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
>> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In
>> this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
>> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
>> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or
>> I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on
>> the away feed.
>> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because
>> the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up
>> button.
>> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so
>> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
>>
>> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before
>> last. Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute
>> the audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a
>> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the
>> inaccessible player.
>>
>> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12
>> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten
>> to a game, but I haven’t tried that yet!
>>
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>>
>> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to
>> Phillies baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and
>> explained that I couldn’t enj

Re: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-12 Thread Duane Steele
Steve, TuneIn will allow pre-season coverage of the NFL just like in past 
years. However, when the regular season begins, TuneIn's coverage ends. I 
suggest to everyone on this continuing thread that the easiest way to listen to 
the NFL will be through SiriusXM. They truly take all the guess work out of 
live coverage, especially with the Playrrx APP which allows for easy set-up of 
favorite teams and channels.
 

Peace & Blessings,
Pastor Duane L. Steele
Phone (276) 730-5194

> On Aug 12, 2022, at 8:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune In 
> Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version.
>  
> Steve Cook, CPM
> SC Commission for the Blind
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Newsline Administrator
> 1430 Confederate Avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> E-Mail: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I can’t 
> bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I click on the 
> subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to NFL Plus Premium, 
> and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to listen to replays of 
> games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. 
> is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
> I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that 
> ends November 4.
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
> they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:
> I brought up the NFL app.
> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure out 
> how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In this 
> case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or I 
> could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
> away feed.
> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because the 
> audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up button.
> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
>  
> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
> Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the 
> audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a 
> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible 
> player.
>  
> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
> game, but I haven’t tried that yet!
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
> baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
> couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in 
> the park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and 
> said they fixed the problem.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Minor
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Hi.
>  
> I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
> would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
> 

Re: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-12 Thread Richard Turner
Steve,
Yes, if you go back to the original message that included the letter from 
TuneIn, they will continue carrying some prime time games; but they will not 
have all the teams due to the NFL contracting with other services.





Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Aug 12, 2022, at 5:07 AM, 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune In 
> Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version.
>  
> Steve Cook, CPM
> SC Commission for the Blind
> Assistive Technology Consultant
> Newsline Administrator
> 1430 Confederate Avenue
> Columbia, SC 29201
> Office: (803) 898-8788
> Cell: (803) 908-3856
> E-Mail: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I can’t 
> bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I click on the 
> subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to NFL Plus Premium, 
> and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to listen to replays of 
> games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. 
> is $9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
> I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that 
> ends November 4.
>  
> 
>  
>  
>  
> Richard
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>  
>  
> 
> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
> they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:
> I brought up the NFL app.
> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure out 
> how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In this 
> case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or I 
> could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
> away feed.
> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because the 
> audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up button.
> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
>  
> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
> Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the 
> audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a 
> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible 
> player.
>  
> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
> game, but I haven’t tried that yet!
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
> baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
> couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in 
> the park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and 
> said they fixed the problem.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Minor
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Hi.
>  
> I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
> would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
> work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action 

RE: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-12 Thread 'Cook, Steve' via VIPhone
I was able to listen to Thursday nights preseason games through the Tune In 
Radio app and I am not subscribed, I only have the free version.

Steve Cook, CPM
SC Commission for the Blind
Assistive Technology Consultant
Newsline Administrator
1430 Confederate Avenue
Columbia, SC 29201
Office: (803) 898-8788
Cell: (803) 908-3856
E-Mail: steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov<mailto:steve.c...@sccb.sc.gov>

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 8:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: [External] RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I can’t 
bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I click on the 
subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to NFL Plus Premium, 
and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to listen to replays of 
games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. is 
$9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that ends 
November 4.




Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: 
https://www.turner42.com<https://gcc02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F=05%7C01%7Csteve.cook%40sccb.sc.gov%7C3d93af4139644b40558708da7bfc1b87%7Ce9f8d01480d84f27b0d6c3d6c085fcdd%7C0%7C0%7C637958620742720429%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000%7C%7C%7C=1LSavvkTgbR5CFJ8RTFSI5VfsY41BxweI%2FI8NulefFo%3D=0>


On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:

  1.  I brought up the NFL app.
  2.  I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure 
out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
  3.  In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In 
this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
  4.  I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
  5.  Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or 
I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
away feed.
  6.  At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because 
the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up 
button.
  7.  Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.

Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the audio, 
so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a sighted person 
around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible player.

SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
game, but I haven’t tried that yet!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in the 
park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and said 
they fixed the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Hi.

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were sai

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
You’re right. Since I’m already subscribed to the $5 a month package, I can’t 
bring up the page I looked at when I subscribed, but now when I click on the 
subscribe button, it just gives me the option to upgrade to NFL Plus Premium, 
and there it’s pretty clear that you need Premium to listen to replays of 
games, and you’re right, that’s $10 a month.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 7:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. is 
$9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that ends 
November 4.




Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com



On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
mailto:chalt...@outlook.com>> wrote:

OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:

  1.  I brought up the NFL app.
  2.  I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure 
out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
  3.  In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In 
this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
  4.  I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
  5.  Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or 
I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
away feed.
  6.  At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because 
the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up 
button.
  7.  Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.

Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the audio, 
so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a sighted person 
around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible player.

SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
game, but I haven’t tried that yet!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in the 
park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and said 
they fixed the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Hi.

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

This is what I remember hearing.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

  1.  Link to the source is at the end.
  2.
We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason

Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-11 Thread Daniel MacDonald



> On Aug 8, 2022, at 9:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been 
> using all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven 
> to be a major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football 
> and Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, but 
>> I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with 
>> Sirius XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, 
>> NBA and NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 
>> a season.
>> 
>> Thanks for all of the ideas and information on which apps were accessible, 
>> especially Sirius XM.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Chaltain 
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or 
>> not. Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be 
>> able to get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any 
>> workarounds people discover.
>> 
>> On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign 
>> up for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. 
>> I'll report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll 
>> think about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of 
>> their three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, 
>> I'll see if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 2:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> There is a 7 day free trial.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Donald Roberts" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
>> Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
>>> members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
>>> please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
>>> want to put any money down until I know that it works.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
>>> 
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Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-11 Thread Richard Turner
Did I understand that the NFL plus package that allows rewatching games etc. is 
$9.99 but the basic plan is the $4.99 plan?
I'm personally sticking with SiriusXM at least through my free trial that ends 
November 4.





Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Aug 11, 2022, at 4:52 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
> they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:
> I brought up the NFL app.
> I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure out 
> how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
> In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In this 
> case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
> I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
> Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or I 
> could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
> away feed.
> At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because the 
> audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up button.
> Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
> there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.
>  
> Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
> Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the 
> audio, so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a 
> sighted person around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible 
> player.
>  
> SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
> instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
> game, but I haven’t tried that yet!
>  
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
> baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
> couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in 
> the park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and 
> said they fixed the problem.
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
> Minor
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> Hi.
>  
> I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
> would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
> work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
> heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
> stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect 
> the network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way 
> things are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a 
> few second delay with talk shows.
>  
> This is what I remember hearing.
>  
> Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.
>  
> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>  
> An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming
> Link to the source is at the end.
>  
> We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
> streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
> original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor 
> speakers in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio 
> or Bose Wave radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or 
> three behind what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to 
> explain a reason why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.
> The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
> its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
> significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
> speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
> Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
> is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
> entirely made up.)

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
OK, I signed up for the NFL Plus free trial, and things worked pretty much as 
they did the season before last season. Here’s what I did:

  1.  I brought up the NFL app.
  2.  I had to go into the Scores tab to get a game started. I couldn’t figure 
out how to do this from the NFL Plus tab.
  3.  In the Scores tab, I double tapped on the game I was interested in. In 
this case, it was the Giants at Patriots.
  4.  I then had to double tap on the Watch tab.
  5.  Here I could double tap on the home broadcast, which was the Patriots, or 
I could double tap on the listen live options, where I could double tap on the 
away feed.
  6.  At this point the broadcast comes up, but you won’t hear anything because 
the audio volume is set to 0. I unmuted the audio by hitting the volume up 
button.
  7.  Now you can listen to the game but the player is totally inaccessible, so 
there’s no way to play/pause or fast forward/rewind.

Like I said, this was pretty much how things worked the season before last. 
Last season, the problem was that the volume buttons wouldn’t unmute the audio, 
so there was no way for me to listen to the game unless I had a sighted person 
around who could tap on the unmute button in the inaccessible player.

SiriusXM is a much more enjoyable way to listen to a game, but it is $12 
instead of $5 a month. I did see the option in the Watch tab to relisten to a 
game, but I haven’t tried that yet!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 6:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in the 
park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and said 
they fixed the problem.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Hi.

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

This is what I remember hearing.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

  *   Link to the source is at the end.
  *
We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.
The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)
LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams
When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.
My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and 

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-11 Thread Dennis Long
Some ballparks and Arena’s don’t have this problem.  I used to go to Phillies 
baseball games.  They had that problem until I called and explained that I 
couldn’t enjoy the game and asked them if they could modify it when your in the 
park that there is no delay.  After a few years they called me back and said 
they fixed the problem.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

Hi.

 

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

 

This is what I remember hearing.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

*   Link to the source is at the end.
*

We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.

The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)

LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams

When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.

My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.

The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.

UNIONS: pay or don’t play

The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be in 
a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional to the 
number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns paid small 
fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest fees. 
Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy global 
endorsements.

Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio stations 
were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that had been 
created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played across the 
country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees their union 
had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were threatened.

And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said that 
the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were broadly 
distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet figured 
out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.

The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using 
computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature that 
split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the broadcast 
transmitter, as 

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

The several seconds delay has been going on before digital technology was 
thought of. I remember hearing of it in the 1970’s. If something happened that 
the show didn’t want heard from a caller, the famous dump button was pressed, 
and there would either be a few seconds of dead air, or a tone would be 
broadcast to allow the delay system to be reset.

Now, nothing is really live on broadcast television, and this is true even on 
local stations. One thing I used to do was set my clocks to when a network 
broadcast started, and I remember the CBS television network broadcast a kind 
of ding when it was exactly the top of the hour. It’s not done anymore, and 
even if it were, it would be several seconds off. I noticed this change happen 
when all TV over the air stations went digital. I wish I had a shortwave 
receiver, because I’d like to find out how much a delay there is by comparing 
their transmission to good old WWV.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
kheve...@fuse.net
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:13 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Kevin, that’s my understanding as well.  If you have ever called a talk show 
and they put u on hold, you will typically hear that what is coming from your 
radio is delayed a few seconds from what you hear through your headset.  Seems 
like the delay happened shortly after janet jackson’s wardrobe malfunction 
during the superbowl some years back.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Hi.

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

This is what I remember hearing.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

  *   Link to the source is at the end.
  *
We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.
The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)
LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams
When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.
My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.
The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.
UNIONS: pay or don’t play
The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. T

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread khevener
Kevin, that’s my understanding as well.  If you have ever called a talk show 
and they put u on hold, you will typically hear that what is coming from your 
radio is delayed a few seconds from what you hear through your headset.  Seems 
like the delay happened shortly after janet jackson’s wardrobe malfunction 
during the superbowl some years back.  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kevin 
Minor
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 2:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

Hi.

 

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

 

This is what I remember hearing.

 

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

 

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

 

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

*   Link to the source is at the end.
*

We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.

The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)

LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams

When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.

My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.

The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.

UNIONS: pay or don’t play

The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be in 
a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional to the 
number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns paid small 
fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest fees. 
Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy global 
endorsements.

Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio stations 
were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that had been 
created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played across the 
country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees their union 
had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were threatened.

And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said that 
the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were broadly 
distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet figured 
out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.

The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using 
computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature that 
split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the broadcast 
tran

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Kevin Minor
Hi.

I remember going to a college basketball game a few years ago. I thought it 
would be nice to take a radio with me to keep up with the action. It didn’t 
work. There was about a fifteen second delay between the action and what was 
heard on commercial radio. I wasn’t sure why, but this wasn’t an internet 
stream. I heard the possible reason why this was done, and it’s to protect the 
network from the FCC. If some unwanted words were said, with the way things 
are, it can be bleeped out, thanks to that delay. It’s why there’s a few second 
delay with talk shows.

This is what I remember hearing.

Have a blessed day and don’t work too hard.

Kevin, Valerie and Jilly

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 1:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

  *   Link to the source is at the end.
  *
We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.
The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)
LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams
When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.
My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.
The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.
UNIONS: pay or don’t play
The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be in 
a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional to the 
number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns paid small 
fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest fees. 
Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy global 
endorsements.
Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio stations 
were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that had been 
created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played across the 
country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees their union 
had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were threatened.
And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said that 
the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were broadly 
distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet figured 
out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.
The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using 
computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature that 
split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the broadcast 
transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And this new 
software could block the commercials that were being played on the radio 
station, instantly substituting different audio.
SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no.
Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively on 
the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the vanishing 
commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more music. 
Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might help this 
new service catch on and become big.
That person was promptly fired.
Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Richard Turner
An Explanation For the Delay In Radio Streaming

*   Link to the source is at the end.
*

We are going to try to explain the delay experienced in internet radio 
streaming. The audio can be up to five minutes behind what comes out of the 
original streaming source. For example, I hear the audio on my monitor speakers 
in my home radio studio. I turn on a mobile device, internet radio or Bose Wave 
radio in another room and the audio is about a minute or two or three behind 
what's coming from the studio audio source. We will try to explain a reason 
why. The following information was obtained from Quora.com.

The most noticeable difference between a radio station's broadcast signal and 
its corresponding Internet stream or Internet only radio stations is a 
significant delay. The same program is likely to come out of your computer 
speakers as much as five minutes later than it comes out of your radio. 
Surprisingly, technology accounts for only about 5% of the lag. The other 95% 
is a result of arguments over paychecks. (Disclaimer: those numbers were 
entirely made up.)

LATENCY: a billion little traffic jams

When I play a song on my radio station, it zooms out to every nearby radio at 
the speed of light. But online, delivery is restricted to the speed of Internet 
— a relatively pokey journey that starts when my song gets converted into a 
package of networthy digits. That conversion takes a fraction of a second. 
Before it gets to your iPad, my song will pass through scores of other network 
devices that each hold it for additional fractions of seconds. And those tiny 
delays start to pile up.

My favorite demonstration for guests: I can talk into my studio mic, which is 
live on the radio — then turn on an Internet feed and hear what I just said 
sixty seconds earlier. In that amount of time, my radio voice has gone halfway 
to Mars, while my Internet voice has only made a round-trip to Cincinnati by 
way of Mountain View.

The world's most expensive machine is slower than light, and slightly faster 
than yelling.

UNIONS: pay or don’t play

The biggest source of audio delay has nothing to do with technology, and 
everything to do with paychecks. Traditionally, when actors were hired to be in 
a commercial, the amount of money they got paid was roughly proportional to the 
number of people the commercial was expected to reach. Small towns paid small 
fees; national ad campaigns had big budgets and paid the fattest fees. 
Voiceover artists and their agents dreamed of working up to big juicy global 
endorsements.

Around the turn of the century, these actors had a wake-up call. Radio stations 
were starting to put their shows on the Internet. Commercials that had been 
created for single mid-sized cities were suddenly being played across the 
country. But the actors weren't getting the big national-spot fees their union 
had negotiated! Contracts were being violated. Lawsuits were threatened.

And radio stations knew they had a losing hand in this game. The law said that 
the union performers were owed much more money if their voices were broadly 
distributed. And where would that money come from? No station had yet figured 
out how to make a dime out of streaming radio.

The solution was one software upgrade away. Stations were already using 
computers to control playback of their audio. Developers created a feature that 
split the programming into two or more feeds. One would go to the broadcast 
transmitter, as always. The others would go to the Internet. And this new 
software could block the commercials that were being played on the radio 
station, instantly substituting different audio.

SO THERE'S ROOM TO PLAY MORE MUSIC? Uh, no.

Problem solved. Ads created by SAG-AFTRA union members stayed exclusively on 
the radio, as before. As for the empty space left behind by the vanishing 
commercials, someone suggested that it could be filled with more music. 
Internet listeners would love it, this person said, and that might help this 
new service catch on and become big.

That person was promptly fired.

Station owners realized that they could replace the legally questionable 
commercials with other commercials. They could sell these online commercials 
and create an entirely new stream of revenue that might have unlimited growth 
potential. Because if there's anything consumers love, it's more commercials.

AND JUST HOW DOES THIS ANSWER THE ORIGINAL QUESTION?

Oh, right. The differences between broadcast and Internet streams. Well, in 
practice, it shakes out like this:



*The Internet commercial breaks are always longer than the broadcast 
radio breaks. It's basic math. The online commercial break can never be shorter 
than the broadcast commercial break. You don't want to jump back to regular 
programming before the regular program is there. But your Internet commercial 
break CAN run longer. Listeners won't miss anything. The program gets stored in 
a delay buffer, so it 

Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Gordon
Yes, I really don't know why they have such a lengthy delay. it could be
some type of contractual thing with the NFL where that broadcast Hass to
reach TV audiences and the flagship radio audiences before it can be pushed
out to SiriusXM listeners. i'll have to try tune in premium to see if they
have the long delay as well.

On Wed, Aug 10, 2022 at 9:50 AM Amy Ruell  wrote:

> I get all of the sports, got 3 months free for signing up, and have the
> platinum package.
>
> I don’t have a radio, just stream on my phone. Sad to hear about the
> delay, as I like to listen while my family watches the games.
>
> Hoping they have college football and basketball as well. I cancelled my
> Tune In and MLB subscriptions to save money.
>
> Amy
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kevin Minor
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2022 10:39 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> Hi.
>
>
>
> It might have changed, but it used to be if you wanted to have all the
> sports, a radio was required to get that online subscription.
>
>
>
> I could be wrong, or it might have changed.
>
>
>
> Kevin, Valerie and Jilly
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Richard Turner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 10, 2022 10:31 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> I believe with the radio it is about $23 while the streaming plan is
> $11.99.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Richard
>
> “What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little
> consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
>
> My web site: https://www.turner42.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
>
> Hi what is the price difference between the to platinum plans with the
> radio or with out?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
> Yeah, I got into the streaming plans without the car radio, but I think I
> just took the default, which is the Music and Entertainment plan.
>
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> Chris Chaffin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
> One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there
> is 2 platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to
> streaming, also includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in
> your house, and the platinum streaming plan, which only includes
> streaming.  So I just ended up calling them to make sure I got the right
> one.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain 
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game
> Pass in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have
> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it
> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can
> give the free trial a spin as well.
>
>
>
> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and
> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the
> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the
> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all
> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support
> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very
> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great!
> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>
> Chaltain at Outlook
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>
> Dennis Long
>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>
>
>
> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is
> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app
> experience.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>
> Christopher Chaltain
>
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
>
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>
> Subject: RE: NFL audio 

Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Richard Turner
I believe with the radio it is about $23 while the streaming plan is $11.99.





Richard
“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin
My web site: https://www.turner42.com


> On Aug 10, 2022, at 6:50 AM, Casey Wollner  wrote:
> 
> Hi what is the price difference between the to platinum plans with the radio 
> or with out?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:46 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Yeah, I got into the streaming plans without the car radio, but I think I 
> just took the default, which is the Music and Entertainment plan.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
> Chaffin
> Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> 
> One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there is 
> 2 platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to streaming, 
> also includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in your house, 
> and the platinum streaming plan, which only includes streaming.  So I just 
> ended up calling them to make sure I got the right one.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game 
>> Pass in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have 
>> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it 
>> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give 
>> the free trial a spin as well.
>> 
>> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and 
>> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the 
>> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the 
>> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all 
>> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support 
>> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very 
>> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great! 
>> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Dennis Long
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
>> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app 
>> experience.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a 
>> game that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times 
>> when I was able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we 
>> have an alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
>> alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
>> and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't 
>> get in other packages is a good reason this is the case.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
>> Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 
>> 26, 2022.
>> Link to the source is at the end.
>> 
>> The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 
>> 26, 2022
>> 
>> SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National 
>> Football League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced 
>> the extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five 
>> ye

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Casey Wollner
Hi what is the price difference between the to platinum plans with the radio or 
with out?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 7:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Yeah, I got into the streaming plans without the car radio, but I think I just 
took the default, which is the Music and Entertainment plan.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone


One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there is 2 
platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to streaming, also 
includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in your house, and the 
platinum streaming plan, which only includes streaming.  So I just ended up 
calling them to make sure I got the right one.

Chris


> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game Pass 
> in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have 
> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it 
> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give 
> the free trial a spin as well.
> 
> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and 
> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the 
> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the 
> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all 
> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support 
> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very 
> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great! 
> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a 
> game that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times 
> when I was able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have 
> an alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
> alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
> and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
> in other packages is a good reason this is the case.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
> Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 
> 26, 2022.
> Link to the source is at the end.
> 
> The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 
> 26, 2022
> 
> SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National 
> Football League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced 
> the extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five 
> years. SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games 
> and exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to 
> get access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM 
> radio and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 
> 24/7 radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.
> 
> SiriusXM NFL Radio
> SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
> daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
> with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
> marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training 
> camps, owners’ meetings and more.
> 
> 32 NFL Team Chan

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yeah, I got into the streaming plans without the car radio, but I think I just 
took the default, which is the Music and Entertainment plan.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Chris 
Chaffin
Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2022 6:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone


One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there is 2 
platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to streaming, also 
includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in your house, and the 
platinum streaming plan, which only includes streaming.  So I just ended up 
calling them to make sure I got the right one.

Chris


> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game Pass 
> in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have 
> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it 
> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give 
> the free trial a spin as well.
> 
> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and 
> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the 
> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the 
> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all 
> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support 
> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very 
> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great! 
> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Dennis Long
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a 
> game that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times 
> when I was able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have 
> an alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
> alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
> and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
> in other packages is a good reason this is the case.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
> Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 
> 26, 2022.
> Link to the source is at the end.
> 
> The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 
> 26, 2022
> 
> SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National 
> Football League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced 
> the extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five 
> years. SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games 
> and exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to 
> get access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM 
> radio and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 
> 24/7 radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.
> 
> SiriusXM NFL Radio
> SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
> daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
> with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
> marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training 
> camps, owners’ meetings and more.
> 
> 32 NFL Team Channels
> The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
> official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find 
> and listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
> season, each team channel on the SXM Ap

Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-10 Thread Chris Chaffin


One thing that I learned through the signing up for SiriusXM is that there is 2 
platinum plans.  The regular platinum plan which in addition to streaming, also 
includes an actual radio like in a car or one you keep in your house, and the 
platinum streaming plan, which only includes streaming.  So I just ended up 
calling them to make sure I got the right one.

Chris


> On Aug 9, 2022, at 11:26 PM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game Pass 
> in the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have 
> another alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it 
> were my only option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give 
> the free trial a spin as well.
> 
> Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and 
> information I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the 
> wrong package. I got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the 
> Platinum package. I used their customer service bot to get it all 
> straightened out, and that was a great experience. Not only was the support 
> staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, but the bot itself was very 
> accessible. Now that I've got the right package, it's all working great! 
> Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on this list!
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
> Long
> Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
> accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Christopher Chaltain
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a 
> game that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times 
> when I was able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have 
> an alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
> alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
> and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
> in other packages is a good reason this is the case.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
> Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 
> 26, 2022.
> Link to the source is at the end.
> 
> The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 26, 2022
> 
> SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National 
> Football League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced 
> the extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five 
> years. SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games 
> and exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to 
> get access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM 
> radio and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 
> 24/7 radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.
> 
> SiriusXM NFL Radio
> SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
> daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
> with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
> marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training 
> camps, owners’ meetings and more.
> 
> 32 NFL Team Channels
> The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
> official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find 
> and listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
> season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s 
> pre- and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels 
> are also available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
> Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches 
> shows, press conferences and more — on the SXM App.
> 
> SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
> Every Sunday during t

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-09 Thread Dennis Long
Thanks for being willing to try the NFL's version.  My feeling is it should be 
accessible to all.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 11:26 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game Pass in 
the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have another 
alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it were my only 
option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give the free trial 
a spin as well.

Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and information 
I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the wrong package. I 
got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the Platinum package. I used 
their customer service bot to get it all straightened out, and that was a great 
experience. Not only was the support staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, 
but the bot itself was very accessible. Now that I've got the right package, 
it's all working great! Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on 
this list!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a game 
that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times when I was 
able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have an 
alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
in other packages is a good reason this is the case.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 26, 
2022.
Link to the source is at the end.

The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 26, 2022

SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National Football 
League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced the 
extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five years. 
SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games and 
exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to get 
access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM radio 
and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 24/7 
radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.

SiriusXM NFL Radio
SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training camps, 
owners’ meetings and more.

32 NFL Team Channels
The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find and 
listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s pre- 
and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels are also 
available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches shows, 
press conferences and more — on the SXM App.

SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
Every Sunday during the season, the channel offers an exclusive live show, 
SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive, that takes listeners in and out of multiple live 
game broadcasts so they can hear the day’s biggest plays and most exciting game 
action in one place, accompanied by live analysis and one-on-one postgame 
interviews with the day’s star players.

Original source:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.siriusxm.com%2Fnfl-2022-2023-season%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C0506aa799b8643060e7608da79e1f644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637956308651177587%7CUnk

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-09 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Sure, I'll give it a try on Thursday night. I've subscribed to NFL Game Pass in 
the past, so I might not be eligible for a free trial. Since I have another 
alternative, I also may not try as hard as I would if I thought it were my only 
option. Also, and this goes without saying, but others can give the free trial 
a spin as well.

Finally, even though someone like Richard spoon fed me the link and information 
I needed to sign up for Sirius XM, I still signed up for the wrong package. I 
got the Music and Entertainment package instead of the Platinum package. I used 
their customer service bot to get it all straightened out, and that was a great 
experience. Not only was the support staff quick, knowledgeable and friendly, 
but the bot itself was very accessible. Now that I've got the right package, 
it's all working great! Thanks for all of the tips and advice on this topic on 
this list!

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 3:34 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a game 
that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times when I was 
able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have an 
alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
in other packages is a good reason this is the case.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 26, 
2022.
Link to the source is at the end.

The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 26, 2022

SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National Football 
League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced the 
extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five years. 
SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games and 
exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to get 
access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM radio 
and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 24/7 
radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.

SiriusXM NFL Radio
SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training camps, 
owners’ meetings and more.

32 NFL Team Channels
The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find and 
listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s pre- 
and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels are also 
available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches shows, 
press conferences and more — on the SXM App.

SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
Every Sunday during the season, the channel offers an exclusive live show, 
SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive, that takes listeners in and out of multiple live 
game broadcasts so they can hear the day’s biggest plays and most exciting game 
action in one place, accompanied by live analysis and one-on-one postgame 
interviews with the day’s star players.

Original source:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.siriusxm.com%2Fnfl-2022-2023-season%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7C0506aa799b8643060e7608da79e1f644%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637956308651177587%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=uUCqBZgx1XbGNLpOACBTPJyxkJ7fDBVobf0vecB1bmQ%3Dreserved=0




Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: 
https://n

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-09 Thread Dennis Long
Christopher can you take the 7 day trial of the NFL app and see if it is 
accessible?  I would be interested in your thoughts on the NFL app experience.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 12:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a game 
that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times when I was 
able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have an 
alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
in other packages is a good reason this is the case.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 26, 
2022.
Link to the source is at the end.

The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 26, 2022

SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National Football 
League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced the 
extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five years. 
SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games and 
exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to get 
access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM radio 
and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 24/7 
radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.

SiriusXM NFL Radio
SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training camps, 
owners’ meetings and more.

32 NFL Team Channels
The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find and 
listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s pre- 
and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels are also 
available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches shows, 
press conferences and more — on the SXM App.

SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
Every Sunday during the season, the channel offers an exclusive live show, 
SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive, that takes listeners in and out of multiple live 
game broadcasts so they can hear the day’s biggest plays and most exciting game 
action in one place, accompanied by live analysis and one-on-one postgame 
interviews with the day’s star players.

Original source:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.siriusxm.com%2Fnfl-2022-2023-season%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7Ca401fd681e8649123a5c08da7944d04d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637955633714184453%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=eQmXfAxhL6hFYdN9593nUDg24UlOsGkr5ruVXqFhjwk%3Dreserved=0




Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: 
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7Ca401fd681e8649123a5c08da7944d04d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637955633714184453%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=ZTEVqcNGuSRydP5bAbXDD61BqZ918RleFKVR2wbpREs%3Dreserved=0
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

Can you go back and listen to a game if you miss it? 



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been 
> using all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven 
> to be a major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football 
> and Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know I said I'd check ou

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-08 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Yes, it's my understanding that you don't have the ability to listen to a game 
that's already been played. I did take advantage of this a few times when I was 
able to use the NFL app. As I've said before, just because we have an 
alternative, and just because I've decided to take advantage of that 
alternative, doesn't mean the NFL isn't still on the hook to make their apps 
and services accessible. The fact that they offer features that you don't get 
in other packages is a good reason this is the case.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 8:49 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 26, 
2022.
Link to the source is at the end.

The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear July 26, 2022

SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National Football 
League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced the 
extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five years. 
SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games and 
exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to get 
access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM radio 
and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 24/7 
radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.

SiriusXM NFL Radio
SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training camps, 
owners’ meetings and more.

32 NFL Team Channels
The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find and 
listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s pre- 
and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels are also 
available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches shows, 
press conferences and more — on the SXM App.

SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
Every Sunday during the season, the channel offers an exclusive live show, 
SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive, that takes listeners in and out of multiple live 
game broadcasts so they can hear the day’s biggest plays and most exciting game 
action in one place, accompanied by live analysis and one-on-one postgame 
interviews with the day’s star players.

Original source:
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.siriusxm.com%2Fnfl-2022-2023-season%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7Ca401fd681e8649123a5c08da7944d04d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637955633714184453%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=eQmXfAxhL6hFYdN9593nUDg24UlOsGkr5ruVXqFhjwk%3Dreserved=0




Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: 
https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=05%7C01%7C%7Ca401fd681e8649123a5c08da7944d04d%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637955633714184453%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7Csdata=ZTEVqcNGuSRydP5bAbXDD61BqZ918RleFKVR2wbpREs%3Dreserved=0
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

Can you go back and listen to a game if you miss it? 



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been 
> using all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven 
> to be a major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football 
> and Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, 
>> but I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with 
>> Sirius XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, 
>> NBA and NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 
>> a season.
>> 
>> Thank

RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-08 Thread Richard Turner
I do not see anything about archived games on SiriusXM.
Here is an article about the NFL and SiriusXM updated agreement as of July 26, 
2022.
Link to the source is at the end.

The NFL & SiriusXM expand agreement: Find out what you’ll hear
July 26, 2022

SiriusXM is the exclusive third-party audio provider of every National Football 
League game across North America as the NFL and SiriusXM announced the 
extension of their broadcasting and marketing agreement for another five years. 
SiriusXM and the NFL have been teaming up to deliver fans NFL games and 
exclusive content since 2004, and SiriusXM subscribers will continue to get 
access to every NFL game live through Super Bowl LXI in 2027 on SiriusXM radio 
and on the SXM App, as well as SiriusXM NFL Radio (Ch. 88), SiriusXM’s 24/7 
radio channel dedicated entirely to the NFL.

SiriusXM NFL Radio
SiriusXM NFL Radio offers the most in-depth audio coverage of the NFL. The 
daily programming lineup features shows hosted by NFL experts and interviews 
with players, coaches and executives from around the league, live coverage of 
marquee NFL events like the Super Bowl, NFL Draft, NFL Combine, training camps, 
owners’ meetings and more.

32 NFL Team Channels
The SXM App offers 32 NFL team channels, each dedicated to carrying the 
official radio broadcast for each NFL team, making it easy for fans to find and 
listen to their favorite team’s announcers for every game. Starting this 
season, each team channel on the SXM App will now also feature the team’s pre- 
and post-game shows before and after every game. All 32 team channels are also 
available in vehicles equipped with SiriusXM 360L radios.
Hear additional team-focused content from NFL clubs — including coaches shows, 
press conferences and more — on the SXM App.

SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive
Every Sunday during the season, the channel offers an exclusive live show, 
SiriusXM NFL Sunday Drive, that takes listeners in and out of multiple live 
game broadcasts so they can hear the day’s biggest plays and most exciting game 
action in one place, accompanied by live analysis and one-on-one postgame 
interviews with the day’s star players.

Original source:
https://blog.siriusxm.com/nfl-2022-2023-season/




Richard
“People demand freedom of speech as a compensation for the freedom of thought 
which they seldom use.” - Søren Kierkegaard

My web site: https://www.turner42.com
礪

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2022 5:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

Can you go back and listen to a game if you miss it? 



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been 
> using all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven 
> to be a major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football 
> and Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, 
>> but I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with 
>> Sirius XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, 
>> NBA and NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 
>> a season.
>> 
>> Thanks for all of the ideas and information on which apps were accessible, 
>> especially Sirius XM.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Christopher Chaltain
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or 
>> not. Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be 
>> able to get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any 
>> workarounds people discover.
>> 
>> On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign 
>> up for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. 
>> I'll report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll 
>> think about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of 
>> their three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, 
>> I'll see if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.
>> 
>> --
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>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Andy Baracco
>> Sent: Friday, Augus

Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-08 Thread Dennis Long
Can you go back and listen to a game if you miss it? 



Dennis Long
Sent from my iPhone 13 Pro

> On Aug 8, 2022, at 8:38 AM, Duane Steele  wrote:
> 
> Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been 
> using all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven 
> to be a major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football 
> and Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, but 
>> I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with 
>> Sirius XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, 
>> NBA and NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 
>> a season.
>> 
>> Thanks for all of the ideas and information on which apps were accessible, 
>> especially Sirius XM.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Christopher Chaltain 
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 5:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or 
>> not. Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be 
>> able to get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any 
>> workarounds people discover.
>> 
>> On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign 
>> up for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. 
>> I'll report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll 
>> think about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of 
>> their three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, 
>> I'll see if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.
>> 
>> --
>> Christopher (AKA CJ)
>> Chaltain at Outlook
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
>> Baracco
>> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 2:19 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> There is a 7 day free trial.
>> 
>> Andy
>> 
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Donald Roberts" 
>> To: 
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
>> Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
>>> members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
>>> please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
>>> want to put any money down until I know that it works.
>>> 
>>> Thank you.
>>> 
>>> Don Roberts
>>> 
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Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-08 Thread Duane Steele
Well CJ, that's a great plan. So was the alternate player which I've been using 
all weekend for Major League baseball instead of MLB. TuneIn has proven to be a 
major disappointment. SiriusXM is my choice for the upcoming Football and 
Basketball season, also. Enjoy.
  



> On Aug 8, 2022, at 12:54 AM, Christopher Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, but 
> I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with 
> Sirius XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, 
> NBA and NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 
> a season.
> 
> Thanks for all of the ideas and information on which apps were accessible, 
> especially Sirius XM.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Chaltain 
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 5:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or not. 
> Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be able to 
> get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any workarounds people 
> discover.
> 
> On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign 
> up for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. I'll 
> report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll think 
> about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of their 
> three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, I'll 
> see if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.
> 
> --
> Christopher (AKA CJ)
> Chaltain at Outlook
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
> Baracco
> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 2:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> There is a 7 day free trial.
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Donald Roberts" 
> To: 
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
> Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone
> 
> 
>> It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
>> members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
>> please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
>> want to put any money down until I know that it works.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Don Roberts
>> 
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RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-07 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I know I said I'd check out NFL Plus and the NFL app on Thursday, but 
I think my plan is now to cancel TuneIn, skip NFL Plus, and just go with Sirius 
XM. Sirius XM is only $2 a month more than TuneIn, and I'll get NFL, NBA and 
NCAA. I won't have to mess with NFL Plus for $5 or NBA audio for $10 a season.

Thanks for all of the ideas and information on which apps were accessible, 
especially Sirius XM.

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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: Christopher Chaltain 
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 5:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or not. 
Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be able to 
get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any workarounds people 
discover.

On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign up 
for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. I'll 
report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll think 
about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of their 
three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, I'll see 
if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.

--
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Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

There is a 7 day free trial.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone


> It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
> members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
> please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
> want to put any money down until I know that it works.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Don Roberts
>
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RE: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Like Don, I'd also like to know if anyone is able to get this working or not. 
Since I had a subscription to NFL Game Pass, I'm not sure if I'll be able to 
get the seven day trial. Plus, I'd like to hear about any workarounds people 
discover.

On the 11th, I plan to check out TuneIn, and if that doesn't work, I'll sign up 
for the seven day free trial, if I can, and see how accessible it is. I'll 
report my findings on the list. If the NFL app doesn't work then I'll think 
about the Sirius XM subscription, and I'll probably take advantage of their 
three month trial, even if I decide not to stick with it. On the 13th, I'll see 
if I can pick up the Dolphins games from dolphins.com.

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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2022 2:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

There is a 7 day free trial.

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Donald Roberts" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone


> It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
> members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
> please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
> want to put any money down until I know that it works.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Don Roberts
>
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Re: NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-05 Thread Andy Baracco

There is a 7 day free trial.

Andy

- Original Message - 
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To: 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2022 11:53 AM
Subject: NFL audio on the iPhone


It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using VoiceOver, 
please tell us how it goes on list because I want to subscribe but don't 
want to put any money down until I know that it works.


Thank you.

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NFL audio on the iPhone

2022-08-05 Thread Donald Roberts
It is not my desire to beat this into the ground, however if other list 
members are successful subscribing and playing NFL audio using 
VoiceOver, please tell us how it goes on list because I want to 
subscribe but don't want to put any money down until I know that it works.


Thank you.

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