Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Esther Levegnale]

hi, you know, when I got my new phone, which is a 13 Pro Max, I did the same 
thing and 911 called me. I kind of freaked out, and told them that I was 
getting used to a new phone. They laughed and they said oh fine. Then they said 
that they were glad that I was all right. Esther

Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 13 Pro Max!

> On Sep 9, 2022, at 12:18 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> If the police had come you could have just told them your kid having a 
> nightmare was a real emergency and now that they are here could they please 
> deal with it.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
> Lant
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:37 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New 
> Chime During Startup
> 
> I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
> time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
> the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me 
> out, so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I 
> thought we had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with 
> a kid having a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again 
> accidentally called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the 
> second time.  It would have been really stressful if the police had showed up 
> at my door in the middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.
> So, there just must be something with the way I grab my phone where I end up 
> pressing the side button and volume down button at the same time.  
> 
> Robin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New 
> Chime During Startup
> 
> There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both 
> of these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:
> 
> 1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
> Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
> call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to 
> dial. Auto call requires a SIM card.
> If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will 
> either say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
> If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
> If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
> slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
> sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.
> 
> 2. Call with 5 presses
> Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
> alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.
> 
> I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
> difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
> with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume 
> up and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never 
> even come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as 
> long as you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe 
> the countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you 
> to stop it before the call.
> 
> Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
> most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
> press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
> press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.
> 
> As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
> there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
> In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
> press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
> and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
> volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
> Voiceover says "Power off button".
> There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
> Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
> you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
> which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
> has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My aft

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

This is very helpful. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side butto

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Maybe so, but if it is an official accessibility feature which it seems to be 
and yet it's not even available on the iPhone 14 then the assumption that an 
A16 chip is required would be the logical explanation and hence it won't come 
to other phones until a few years from now when even the oldest phones have an 
A16 chip and the newest have advanced well beyond it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:27 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

You won't know if it can come to older phones if you don't suggest it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
>>>> the iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>>> part of the
>>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>>> Mini and
>>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Annou

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Dennis Long]

You won't know if it can come to older phones if you don't suggest it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
>>>> the iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>>> part of the
>>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>>> Mini and
>>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>>>>

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the police had come you could have just told them your kid having a 
nightmare was a real emergency and now that they are here could they please 
deal with it.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of R Van 
Lant
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, 
so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I thought we 
had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having 
a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally 
called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time.  It 
would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the 
middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.So, there just must be 
something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button 
and volume down button at the same time.  

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency c

Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[William James]

If you can count past four, you should have it made! :-)

Sent from my iPhone Pro Max

> On Sep 8, 2022, at 10:25 AM, Scott Davert  wrote:
> 
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
> can continue to do so. LOL
> 
> Scott
> 
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
>> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>> 
>>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>> 
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>>> models over the years.
>>> 
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
 iPhone 14 pro max.
 
 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
> the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
> and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
> 
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
> New
> Chime During Startup
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
> chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
> iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
> am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
> source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
> my
> PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
> earbuds
> or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
> 
> Original
> Source
> 
> 
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
> 
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
> sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
> accessibility
> features.
> 
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
> part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
> is
> not available for other iPhone models.
> 
> 
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
> [JAWS Certified,
> 2022]
> NVDA Certified Expert
> 
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

My guess is the chime would happen at the same time the sighted people see the 
apple symbol appear on their screen, but may be that is wishful thinking.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 3:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit your 
power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting things coming out 
in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is 
> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the 
> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going 
> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In 
> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>
> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
> models over the years.
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part 
>>> of the
>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>> Mini and
>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have 
>>> a New Chime During Startup
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> From: David Goldfield
>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>> New Chime During Startup
>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>
>>> 
>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a 
>>> chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
>>> blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
>>> entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
>>> go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
>>> sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
>>> than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
>>> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>
>>> Original
>>> Source<https://9to5mac.com/2022/09/07/ios-16-tidbits-boot-chime-cras
>>> h-detection-api/>
>>>
>>>
>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>
>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. 
>>> More specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone 
>>> play a sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of 
>>> the iOS accessibility features.
>>>
>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime 
>>> is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why 
>>> this option is not available for other iPhone models.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Goldfield,
>>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist [JAWS Certified, 
>>> 2022]<https://www.freedomscientific.com/Training/Certification>
>>> NVDA Certified Expert<https://certification.nvaccess.org/>
>>>
>>> Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events 
>>> and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.
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>>>
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>&

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[R Van Lant]

I must have magical powers I have accidentally called 911 twice.  The first 
time I think I was holding my phone as we crossed a parking lot and got into 
the car. Suddenly I heard this alarm and 911 came on the line. Freaked me out, 
so I called Apple accessibility to find out how I had done it.  I thought we 
had turned off the feature, but then one night while dealing with a kid having 
a nightmare and trying to check the time on my phone, I again accidentally 
called 911. I did not hear a countdown or warning with the second time.  It 
would have been really stressful if the police had showed up at my door in the 
middle of the night trying to figure out if I was OK.So, there just must be 
something with the way I grab my phone where I end up pressing the side button 
and volume down button at the same time.  

Robin

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 11:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Christopher Chaltain]

Feedback might help to ensure Apple includes this on all devices as they get 
the new chip, and I am always pro feedback, but I agree with Sieghard, that 
feedback won't help if this is hardware dependent, which it seems to be.

--
Christopher (AKA CJ)
Chaltain at Outlook

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
>>>> the iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>>> part of the
>>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>>> Mini and
>>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
&g

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are two ways to call emergency services with the side button and both of 
these methods can be disabled in Settings > Emergency SOS:

1. Call with Hold, the explanation reads:
Press and hold the side button and either volume button to make an emergency 
call. In certain regions you may need to specify an emergency service to dial. 
Auto call requires a SIM card.
If you swipe right you then have the "Call with Hold" button which will either 
say On or Off and you can double tap on it to toggle it.
If you swipe right again there is a further explanation:
If you press and hold the side button and volume buttons the emergency SOS 
slider appears. If you continue to hold them a countdown begins and an alert 
sounds. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

2. Call with 5 presses
Rapidly pressing the side button 5 times starts a countdown and sounds an 
alert. When the countdown ends iPhone calls emergency services.

I personally have the press and hold option turned on since it is very 
difficult to accidently press and  hold either volume up or volume down along 
with the side button. Taking a screenshot requires you to also press volume up 
and the side button, but you simply press and release and I have never even 
come close to triggering the emergency SOS. Also, keep in mind that as long as 
you don't panic you can still cancel the emergency call, I believe the 
countdown lasts 5 minutes and there is a cancel button which allows you to stop 
it before the call.

Pressing the side button 5 times can be a bit easier to do accidently since 
most people set up the side button to turn Voiceover on or off with a triple 
press. If somebody maybe has some motor difficulties I could see how they may 
press the button 5 times instead of 3 times.

As for using the side button by itself to invoke SIRI is not a problem and 
there is no way you can call emergency services this way.
In the same way there really is no way you can make an emergency call if you 
press the buttons to power off your phone because you press them in sequence 
and not together: first press and release volume up, then press and release 
volume down and then press and hold the side button for just a moment until 
Voiceover says "Power off button".
There used to be a button on that same screen which allowed you to also call 
Emergency Services, but it's been removed in a recent iOS update and now all 
you have on that screen is Power Off, a button with a funny Voiceover label 
which says something about "Location fill radio waves left and right" and it 
has to do with whether your iPhone can be found with Find My after it has been 
powered off and lastly there is a cancel button.
If you are still worried you can always bring up the Power Off menu by going to 
Settings > General > Shutdown, it does the same thing as pressing volume up, 
volume down and the side button.


You have to press the side button 5 times quickly in order to bring up 
emergency calling.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a hea

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

This is helpful. I have always been afraid of messing 
with the side buttons, am afraid I will call 911, is there a way to deactivate 
the side buttons for emergency calls? 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 1:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power 
off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this 
means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot 
it, you can simply count to 20 after  you tap on power off before you press and 
hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again.

z



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>> part of the
>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>> Mini and
>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Model

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

When I turn on my Asus Zenbook laptop I have absolutely no feedback until the 
Windows startup sound plays which is almost simultaneous to when Jaws starts 
speaking and it takes about 10 seconds from when I press the power button. The 
power button is just like any other button on the keyboard so once again, you 
press it and assume the laptop turns on which of course it does and then you 
get the startup sound and Jaws starts to speak at the logon screen.
Now, here my iPhone 11: I press the side button (power button) and hold it for 
a 4 count and then let go. Then just as with my laptop I wait about 12 or 15 
seconds (probably depends a bit on your phone) and then I hear a little jingle 
and Voiceover comes up and I am asked to enter my PIN.
The difference: really none and not a process where you can do anything wrong.
When I want to power off my iPhone I press volume up, volume down and then I 
press and hold the side button for just a second or so and Voiceover will say 
"Power Off button", I double tap on it and the phone shuts down. Once again I 
don't find there really is any margin for error, but if you really want to know 
when the phone has powered off completely (it takes about 10 seconds) just plug 
in a headset when you do this and a few seconds after you double tap on power 
off you will hear a distinctive little click sound in your headset and this 
means the phone is now fully off. If you are turning your phone off to reboot 
it, you can simply count to 20 after  you tap on power off before you press and 
hold the side button for 4 seconds to power it up again.

z



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Star 
Gazer
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 9:35 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>> part of the
>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>> Mini and
>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>>> Su

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Star Gazer]

I agree, the lack of feedback when the phone is 
powering up drives me batty 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott 
Davert
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert that the 
phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects to AC power, but 
some sort of verification that the device is coming online. I think it's cool 
they have this feature, I wish it had been more universally designed. Oh well, 
I've lived without it before, I can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit 
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>> install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the 
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>> part of the
>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>> Mini and
>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>>>> Of CHELA Robles
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>>> New Chime During Startup
>>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>
>>>> 
>>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
>>>> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which many 
>>>> blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the 
>>>> entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. If you 
>>>> go to the original source link you can hear what the new chime 
>>>> sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit louder 
>>>> than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
>>>> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>>
>>>> Original
>>>> Source<https://9to5mac.com/2022/09/07/ios-16-tidbits-boot-chime-cra
>>>> sh-detection-api/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>>
>>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
>>>> More
>>>> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a 
>>>> sound every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS 
>>>> accessibility features.
>>>>
>>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the 
>>>> chime is part of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is 
>>>> probably why this option is not available for other iPhone models.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> David Goldfield,
>>>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialis

RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

I doubt it requires feedback to Apple, obviously the fact they included it now 
means they have already listened to the feedback and if it in fact is only on 
the iPhone 14 Pro with the A16 chip then it is clearly a hardware requirement 
and as soon as the next generation of iPhone comes out in a year when other 
phones get the A16 chip and most likely the next new Pro phones get the A17 it 
will be a feature available on all phones and iPads.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Dennis 
Long
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 8:19 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
>>>> the iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>>> part of the
>>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>>> Mini and
>>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>>>> New Chime During Startup
>>>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>
>>>>> 
>>>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
>>>>> a chime during the boot process.

Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Robin Frost]

Hi,

If vibrate with sounds was on wouldn't that allow the device to vibrate 
along with the sound emitted?


If not it's disappointing because those who are deaf blind should have 
equal access to this as well.


Take good care,

Robin


On 9/8/2022 10:25 AM, Scott Davert wrote:

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
things coming out in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:

It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.

Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
models over the years.

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:

The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
iPhone 14 pro max.

On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
the
A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
and
13 Pro/Pro Max.
Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
CHELA
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
New
Chime During Startup


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: David Goldfield
mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
To: Tech-VI Announcement List
mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
Chime
During Startup
Reply-To: tech...@groups.io

 From the Tech-VI list owner:
The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
chime
during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
iPhone
users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
am
pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
source
link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
my
PC
the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
earbuds
or
who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

Original
Source


Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
More
specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
sound
every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
accessibility
features.

Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
part
of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
is
not available for other iPhone models.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
[JAWS Certified,
2022]
NVDA Certified Expert

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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Dennis Long]

The only way it will role down to older phones is to submit feedback to either 
apple accessibility   
apple.com/feedback

Or if you’re a beta tester submit feedback through the feedback app.  I did 
that.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Joshua 
Hendrickson
Sent: Thursday, September 8, 2022 10:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I use the 
evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a choice, of a chime, 
vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have my player set to the vibration 
because the start up chime is rather louder then it really needs to be.  This 
is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert 
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects 
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming 
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been 
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I 
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you 
>> hit your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting 
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound 
>>> is played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound 
>>> the less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering 
>>> going on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle 
>>> audio. In an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS 
>>> install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but 
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive 
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to 
>>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for 
>>>> the iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be 
>>>>> part of the
>>>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 
>>>>> Mini and
>>>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>>>
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On 
>>>>> Behalf Of CHELA Robles
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will 
>>>>> Have a New Chime During Startup
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> From: David Goldfield
>>>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a 
>>>>> New Chime During Startup
>>>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io<mailto:tech...@groups.io>
>>>>> 
>>>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play 
>>>>> a chime during the boot process. This has been an option which 
>>>>> many blind iPhone users have wanted for years. Rather than posting 
>>>>> the entire article I am pasting just the relevant section below. 
>>>>> If you go to the original source link you can hear what the new 
>>>>> chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit 
>>>>> louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have 
>>>>> sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original
>>>>> Source<https://9to5mac.com/2022/09/07/ios-16-tidbits-boot-chime-cr
>>>>> ash-d

Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I agree.  It would be nice to have haptic feedback or the chime.  I
use the evo10 daisy player.  When I turn the player on, I have a
choice, of a chime, vibration, or bothe chime and vibration.  I have
my player set to the vibration because the start up chime is rather
louder then it really needs to be.  This is all very interesting.
Apple keeps rolling out some really cool stuff.

On 9/8/22, Scott Davert  wrote:
> I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
> that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
> to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
> online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
> more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
> can continue to do so. LOL
>
> Scott
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
>> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
>> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>>
>>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>>> models over the years.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
 The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
 This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
 look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
 iPhone 14 pro max.

 On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part
> of
> the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
> and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
> New
> Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
> chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
> iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
> am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
> source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
> my
> PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
> earbuds
> or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
> More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
> sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
> accessibility
> features.
>
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime
> is
> part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
> is
> not available for other iPhone models.
>
>
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
> [JAWS Certified,
> 2022]
> NVDA Certified Expert
>
> Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and
> information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Scott Davert]

I wish we could also have the privative yet effective vibration alert
that the phone is booting up. Kind of like when your device connects
to AC power, but some sort of verification that the device is coming
online. I think it's cool they have this feature, I wish it had been
more universally designed. Oh well, I've lived without it before, I
can continue to do so. LOL

Scott

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
> your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
> things coming out in the apple world these days.
>
> On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
>> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
>> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
>> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
>> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
>> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>>
>> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
>> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
>> models over the years.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
>>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
>>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>>
>>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
 If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
 the
 A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
 and
 13 Pro/Pro Max.
 Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

 From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
 CHELA
 Robles
 Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
 New
 Chime During Startup


 Sent from my iPhone

 Begin forwarded message:
 From: David Goldfield
 mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
 Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
 To: Tech-VI Announcement List
 mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
 Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
 Chime
 During Startup
 Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
 
 From the Tech-VI list owner:
 The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
 chime
 during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind
 iPhone
 users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I
 am
 pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
 source
 link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on
 my
 PC
 the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
 earbuds
 or
 who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.

 Original
 Source


 Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

 Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime.
 More
 specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a
 sound
 every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
 accessibility
 features.

 Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
 part
 of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
 is
 not available for other iPhone models.


 David Goldfield,
 Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
 [JAWS Certified,
 2022]
 NVDA Certified Expert

 Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and
 information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

I was wondering that myself.  Would the sound chime as soon as you hit
your power button, or take a little time.  Some very interesting
things coming out in the apple world these days.

On 9/8/22, Ben Mustill-Rose  wrote:
> It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
> played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
> less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
> on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
> an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.
>
> Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
> you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
> models over the years.
>
> On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
>> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
>> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
>> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
>> iPhone 14 pro max.
>>
>> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
>>> the
>>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
>>> and
>>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>>
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>>> CHELA
>>> Robles
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
>>> New
>>> Chime During Startup
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> From: David Goldfield
>>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
>>> Chime
>>> During Startup
>>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>>> 
>>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
>>> chime
>>> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
>>> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
>>> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original
>>> source
>>> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my
>>> PC
>>> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones,
>>> earbuds
>>> or
>>> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>>
>>> Original
>>> Source
>>>
>>>
>>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>>
>>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
>>> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
>>> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
>>> accessibility
>>> features.
>>>
>>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
>>> part
>>> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option
>>> is
>>> not available for other iPhone models.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Goldfield,
>>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>>> [JAWS Certified,
>>> 2022]
>>> NVDA Certified Expert
>>>
>>> Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and
>>> information regarding the blindness assistive technology field.
>>> Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.io
>>> www.DavidGoldfield.org
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Ben Mustill-Rose]

It's going to be interesting to see at what point exactly the sound is
played. Obviously the longer the delay between power on and sound the
less useful it becomes. Definitely some impressive engineering going
on if they got it to a point where iBoot was able to handle audio. In
an ideal world it would also sound if you had a corrupt iOS install.

Obviously not something to go out and buy a Pro for on its own, but
you'd imagine that the feature will trickle down to less expensive
models over the years.

On 9/8/22, Joshua Hendrickson  wrote:
> The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
> This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
> look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
> iPhone 14 pro max.
>
> On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of
>> the
>> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini
>> and
>> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
>> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>>
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
>> CHELA
>> Robles
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a
>> New
>> Chime During Startup
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: David Goldfield
>> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
>> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
>> To: Tech-VI Announcement List
>> mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
>> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
>> Chime
>> During Startup
>> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
>> 
>> From the Tech-VI list owner:
>> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a
>> chime
>> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
>> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
>> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original source
>> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my
>> PC
>> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds
>> or
>> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>>
>> Original
>> Source
>>
>>
>> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>>
>> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
>> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
>> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS
>> accessibility
>> features.
>>
>> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is
>> part
>> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is
>> not available for other iPhone models.
>>
>>
>> David Goldfield,
>> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
>> [JAWS Certified,
>> 2022]
>> NVDA Certified Expert
>>
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Re: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Joshua Hendrickson]

The article only said iPhone 14 pro models with the A16 chip.  Darn.
This is a feature I've wanted for sometime. Now I have something to
look forward to when I get a new iPhone.  If only I'd waited for the
iPhone 14 pro max.

On 9/8/22, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of the
> A16 chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini and
> 13 Pro/Pro Max.
> Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA
> Robles
> Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New
> Chime During Startup
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: David Goldfield
> mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
> Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
> To: Tech-VI Announcement List mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
> Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime
> During Startup
> Reply-To: tech...@groups.io
> 
> From the Tech-VI list owner:
> The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a chime
> during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone
> users have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am
> pasting just the relevant section below. If you go to the original source
> link you can hear what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC
> the sound was a bit louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or
> who have sensitivity to loud sounds should be aware of this.
>
> Original
> Source
>
>
> Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro
>
> Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More
> specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound
> every time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS accessibility
> features.
>
> Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is part
> of the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is
> not available for other iPhone models.
>
>
> David Goldfield,
> Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
> [JAWS Certified,
> 2022]
> NVDA Certified Expert
>
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RE: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime During Startup

[Sieghard Weitzel]

If the regular iPhone 14 and 14 Plus have the sound it can't be part of the A16 
chip because they only have the A15, same as the iPhone 13/13 Mini and 13 
Pro/Pro Max.
Only the iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max is getting the A16 chip.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of CHELA 
Robles
Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 9:02 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fwd: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New 
Chime During Startup


Sent from my iPhone

Begin forwarded message:
From: David Goldfield 
mailto:david.goldfi...@outlook.com>>
Date: September 7, 2022 at 8:52:13 PM PDT
To: Tech-VI Announcement List mailto:tech...@groups.io>>
Subject: [tech-vi Announce List] iPhone 14 Pro Models Will Have a New Chime 
During Startup
Reply-To: tech...@groups.io

>From the Tech-VI list owner:
The iPhone 14 Pro and Pro Max models will have the ability to play a chime 
during the boot process. This has been an option which many blind iPhone users 
have wanted for years. Rather than posting the entire article I am pasting just 
the relevant section below. If you go to the original source link you can hear 
what the new chime sounds like. Please note that on my PC the sound was a bit 
louder than expected. Those using headphones, earbuds or who have sensitivity 
to loud sounds should be aware of this.

Original 
Source


Boot chime for iPhone 14 Pro

Another new feature coming to iPhone 14 Pro models is a boot chime. More 
specifically, users will have the option to make the iPhone play a sound every 
time the device is turned on or off as part of the iOS accessibility features.

Since the startup sound is played during the boot process, the chime is part of 
the bootrom of the new A16 chip – which is probably why this option is not 
available for other iPhone models.


David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
[JAWS Certified, 2022]
NVDA Certified Expert

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