RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
And the light detector channel in the Seeing AI app does exactly the same, it 
makes a low tone which gets higher in pitch the more you point the camera to 
the light source and the brighter the light source is.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 12:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Paula,
So these apps will actually make a sound if the lights are on? Wow, now, that's 
pretty cool, and I will definitely search the app store for one of these.  
Thank you so much for letting me know, as I just really don't ever think of the 
lights.  Shame on me!  Smile!  

Janet
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet, There are two good light detector apps which are completely free and 
voice-over accessible.  One is light detector, the other is boop.  Both emit a 
sound or tone when the lights are on.  I use light detector all the time and it 
works very well.  I have a couple of switches where the light can be controlled 
from two different ends of the hall, so knowing whether the switch is down and 
the light is off doesn't work for those lights. In all my other lights the 
light is off when the switch is down. Of course, those are the lights that 
people forget to turn off.  SMILEY. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 
 
Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread Carolyn Arnold
Nothing wrong with putting a little light on things, Janet, hahahahaha. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 3, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 
 
Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is 
> blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his father!  
> I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being 
> blind!  Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never 
> thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how 
> about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of 
> that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert 
> it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  
> Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I live 
> alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would 
> come around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have 
> this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, 
> and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I ju

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread janet gross
Hi Paula, 
So these apps will actually make a sound if the lights are on? Wow, now, that's 
pretty cool, and I will definitely search the app store for one of these.  
Thank you so much for letting me know, as I just really don't ever think of the 
lights.  Shame on me!  Smile!  

Janet 
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Paul and Paula Jordan
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 1:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet, There are two good light detector apps which are completely free and 
voice-over accessible.  One is light detector, the other is boop.  Both emit a 
sound or tone when the lights are on.  I use light detector all the time and it 
works very well.  I have a couple of switches where the light can be controlled 
from two different ends of the hall, so knowing whether the switch is down and 
the light is off doesn't work for those lights. In all my other lights the 
light is off when the switch is down. Of course, those are the lights that 
people forget to turn off.  SMILEY. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 
 
Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luck

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi Janet, There are two good light detector apps which are completely free and 
voice-over accessible.  One is light detector, the other is boop.  Both emit a 
sound or tone when the lights are on.  I use light detector all the time and it 
works very well.  I have a couple of switches where the light can be controlled 
from two different ends of the hall, so knowing whether the switch is down and 
the light is off doesn't work for those lights. In all my other lights the 
light is off when the switch is down. Of course, those are the lights that 
people forget to turn off.  SMILEY. 
God bless!
Paula and Garçon
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 2:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Lynda, 
 
Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come over and 
they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them off.  My husband 
would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the 
> lights for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and 
> didn't realize it was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I 
> didn't often have sighted visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the 
> nonworking light thinking I was being such a good, attentive guide dog owner. 
>  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding 
> the flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my 
> flashlight on my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I 
> have to admit I feel so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was 
> pretty stupid on my part.  So here goes, once again, I called Apple 
> Accessibility, and I told them every time I call Be My Eyes, they keep 
> telling me they can't see anything except complete black, and they 
> would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple rep 
> checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my 
> kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact 
> samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so 
> Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the 
> lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt 
> so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is 
> blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his father!  
> I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being 
> blind!  Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never 
> thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how 
> about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of 
> that.  I then had 

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread janet gross
Hi Lynda, 
 
Oh yeah people coming over never remember to turn off the lights, so when 
sighted people leave, I have to go through the bathroom, front room, kitchen as 
well to turn off the lights.  This makes me crazy!  I never think of the 
lights.  Although, if I don't check the house to turn off the lights, they will 
be on for days!  so they wonder why I don't turn on the lights, and I wonder 
why they don't turn them off!  Smile!  So now when they come in, and say oh 
Janet why didn't you remember to turn on the lights, I will now say, oh why 
didn't you remember to turn them off the last time you were here!  Smile!  When 
my boyfriend would come over, and he say Janet so you had company today, but 
for a while he wouldn't tell me how he knew that, and I thought to myself, 
Yikes, how does he know that, but it didn't take me long to figure that out, oh 
my goodness, my brother didn't turn off the lights when he left again!  
Now, between the sighted people coming over, and not turning the lights off, 
and the phone apps needing lighting, I will have to start to remember these 
lights, because some of the apps for the phones also need light!  I also just 
added to my grocery list lightbulbs!  
Sorry listers and mods this is my last comment on the lighting situation.  

Janet 


-Original Message-
From: 'french' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 03, 2019 8:30 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come 
over and they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them 
off.  My husband would come home and say "oh you had company."

Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:
> Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the lights
> for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and didn't realize it
> was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I didn't often have sighted
> visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the nonworking light thinking I was
> being such a good, attentive guide dog owner.  Keep smilin'.
> God bless!
> Paula and Garçon
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of janet gross
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
>
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their
> iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see
> anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the
> exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is
> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs
> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My
> Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew
> out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but
> luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes
> through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me
> or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess
> that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light
> switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple
> rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I
> never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb,
> and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole
> kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I
> live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come
> around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one
> friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is
> always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I
> just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I
> didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that
> problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it,
> because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an
> iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.

RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Unrelated to the iPhone but related to lights, make sure you buy an LED light 
bulb to replace your broken one. They may cost a bit more, but compared to 5 
years ago they have come way down in price.
It takes much less power so if somebody leaves it on it's less expensive and it 
will last for years and years, most good LED bulbs nowadays have a life span  
of 20,000 or 25,000 hours which is almost 7 years to 8.5 years if they were on 
8 hours each day every day of the year. You can get LED bulbs which are 
equivalent to a 40 Watt bulb and which typically use about 6.5 Watts, a 60 Watt 
equivalent usually uses around 9 or 10 Watts and a 100 Watt equivalent uses 
around 13 to 15 Watts.
If your switch is a dimmer switch make sure the LED bulb supports it, some 
don't, but they definitely have those which support it.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 9:48 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi, 
Well, thank you so much.  To be honest I am so fed up with Seeing AI, as I 
tried working with it for several months, and still it is a no go situation, so 
I will delete it from my phone, and purchase the Voice stream Scanner, and 
probably the Voice Dream Reader as well.  
Thank you again!  
Janet 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gordon
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Try using the light detector on the seeing AI app. It works great in 
situations where you need to check lights.

On 6/2/2019 6:27 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
>

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Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-03 Thread 'french' via VIPhone

Hi Janet,

Whenever my husband would go on a trip with out me friends would come 
over and they would turn on lights.  They would of course not turn them 
off.  My husband would come home and say "oh you had company."


Lynda and Missy

On 6/2/2019 9:22 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan wrote:

Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the lights
for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and didn't realize it
was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I didn't often have sighted
visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the nonworking light thinking I was
being such a good, attentive guide dog owner.  Keep smilin'.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi All,
For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the
flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on
my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel
so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So
here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every
time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except
complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their
iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see
anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the
exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is
completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs
directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My
Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew
out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but
luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes
through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me
or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess
that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light
switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple
rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I
never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb,
and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole
kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I
live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come
around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one
friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is
always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I
just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I
didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that
problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it,
because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an
iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
Janet
Peace Be With You.





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Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Anthony Vece
We all need to stick together and, help each other.

God Bless
Anthony


Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 3, 2019, at 12:41 AM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Anthony, 
> Thank you so much for your understanding, as I greatly appreciate it.  It 
> means a lot to me!  Smile!  
> Janet   
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Vece
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:34 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!
> 
> Janet;
> We’ve  all been there and, we’ve all been  through it.
> Please don’t be embarrassed.
> I am in the same situation that you are.
> Take care
> God bless
> Anthony
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!
> 
>> On Jun 2, 2019, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
>> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
>> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
>> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
>> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
>> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
>> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their 
>> iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see 
>> anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the 
>> exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
>> completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
>> directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My 
>> Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew 
>> out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but 
>> luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes 
>> through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me 
>> or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess 
>> that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light 
>> switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple 
>> rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I 
>> never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, 
>> and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole 
>> kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I 
>> live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come 
>> around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one 
>> friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is 
>> always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I 
>> just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I 
>> didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that 
>> problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it, 
>> because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an 
>> iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
>> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
>> Janet 
>> Peace Be With You. 
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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread janet gross
Hi, 
Well, thank you so much.  To be honest I am so fed up with Seeing AI, as I 
tried working with it for several months, and still it is a no go situation, so 
I will delete it from my phone, and purchase the Voice stream Scanner, and 
probably the Voice Dream Reader as well.  
Thank you again!  
Janet 


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Gordon
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Try using the light detector on the seeing AI app. It works great in 
situations where you need to check lights.

On 6/2/2019 6:27 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
>

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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread janet gross
Hi Anthony, 
Thank you so much for your understanding, as I greatly appreciate it.  It means 
a lot to me!  Smile!  
Janet   


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Janet;
We’ve  all been there and, we’ve all been  through it.
Please don’t be embarrassed.
I am in the same situation that you are.
Take care
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
> Janet 
> Peace Be With You. 
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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread janet gross
Arlene, 
I think I just learned my lesson!  Smile! 

Janet 
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Arlene
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Don't forget about the light probe in seeing ai and other light probe apps. 
That's great you got that solved. I't's some of the things we just don't 
think about right way.

Arlene
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To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:27 PM
Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!


Hi All,
For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their 
iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see 
anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the 
exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My 
Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew 
out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but 
luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes 
through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me 
or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess 
that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light 
switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple 
rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I 
never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, 
and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole 
kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I 
live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come 
around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one 
friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is 
always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I 
just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I 
didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that 
problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it, 
because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an 
iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
Janet
Peace Be With You.

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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread janet gross
Hi Carolyn, 
I have to admit once again, I never think of the lights.  It doesn't really 
matter to me if they are working or not.  Although, now I will be using some 
apps in which they might require lights, I will have to get use to checking the 
lightbulbs, and probably stock up on lightbulbs now!  Now, if I can remember 
the lights!  Smile!  
Janet 

Janet Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Carolyn Arnold
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:24 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

When I lived alone, I'd use my color identifier to check lights, especially, 
when I still had my home, and in two rooms, there were two switches. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Janet;
We’ve  all been there and, we’ve all been  through it.
Please don’t be embarrassed.
I am in the same situation that you are.
Take care
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
> Janet 
> Peace Be With You. 
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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
That was exactly what I was going to suggest, there really is no need to feel 
if a light bulb is warm when all you have to do is open Seeing AI and flick to 
the light detector channel.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Gordon
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Try using the light detector on the seeing AI app. It works great in situations 
where you need to check lights.

On 6/2/2019 6:27 PM, janet gross wrote:
> Hi All,
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
> Janet
> Peace Be With You.
>

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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Paul and Paula Jordan
Hi Janet.  My husband and I are both totally blind.  I turn on the lights
for my guide dog, but there was one I kept turning on and didn't realize it
was burnt out.  It was in my computer room where I didn't often have sighted
visitors.  I wonder how long I turned on the nonworking light thinking I was
being such a good, attentive guide dog owner.  Keep smilin'.
God bless!
Paula and Garçon

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:27 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

Hi All, 
For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the
flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on
my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel
so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So
here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every
time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except
complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their
iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see
anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the
exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is
completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs
directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My
Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew
out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but
luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes
through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me
or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess
that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light
switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple
rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I
never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb,
and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole
kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I
live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come
around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one
friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is
always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I
just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I
didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that
problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it,
because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an
iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
Janet 
Peace Be With You. 



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RE: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Carolyn Arnold
When I lived alone, I'd use my color identifier to check lights, especially, 
when I still had my home, and in two rooms, there were two switches. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 

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Anthony Vece
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 7:34 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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Janet;
We’ve  all been there and, we’ve all been  through it.
Please don’t be embarrassed.
I am in the same situation that you are.
Take care
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
> Janet 
> Peace Be With You. 
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Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Arlene
Don't forget about the light probe in seeing ai and other light probe apps. 
That's great you got that solved. I't's some of the things we just don't 
think about right way.


Arlene
- Original Message - 
From: "janet gross" 

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:27 PM
Subject: Flashlight Issue Resolved!


Hi All,
For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their 
iPhone.  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see 
anything on my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the 
exact samething that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is 
completely black.  The main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs 
directly above my kitchen counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My 
Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew 
out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but 
luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, and he said he goes 
through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who laughed more me 
or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess 
that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the light 
switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the Apple 
rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I 
never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, 
and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole 
kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I 
live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come 
around, that they didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one 
friend who comes over often when she is on break from work, and she is 
always turning on the other two lights, and raising the window shades, and I 
just would think wow, some sighted people really need a lot of light, but I 
didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that 
problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it, 
because he also learned something, he didn't know someone else using an 
iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.

So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
Janet
Peace Be With You.

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Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Anthony Vece
Janet;
We’ve  all been there and, we’ve all been  through it.
Please don’t be embarrassed.
I am in the same situation that you are.
Take care
God bless
Anthony

Sent from my Verizon iPhone XR!!!

> On Jun 2, 2019, at 7:27 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All, 
> For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
> flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on 
> my phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel 
> so embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So 
> here goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every 
> time I call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except 
> complete black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone. 
>  So Apple rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on 
> my kitchen counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething 
> that Be My Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The 
> main problem was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen 
> counter, and where I would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  
> Well, low in behold, one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought 
> about that!  De!  I felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a 
> father who is blind, and he said he goes through this quite often with his 
> father!  I don't know who laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick 
> myself for that one!  Smile!  I guess that is what I get for being blind!  
> Although, I kept turning the light switch on, but I just never thought to 
> feel the lightbulb, until the Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the 
> lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I never thought of that.  I then had to get a 
> chair and an extra lightbulb, and insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey 
> Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  Smile!  For those who might not know I 
> am totally blind, and I live alone.  I couldn't imagine when my sighted 
> family or friends would come around, that they didn't even say anything about 
> that.  I have this one friend who comes over often when she is on break from 
> work, and she is always turning on the other two lights, and raising the 
> window shades, and I just would think wow, some sighted people really need a 
> lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to see when I was sighted!  
> Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The Apple rep told me not to 
> feel bad about it, because he also learned something, he didn't know someone 
> else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through another phone.  
> So I want to thank all those who tried to help.  
> Janet 
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Re: Flashlight Issue Resolved!

2019-06-02 Thread Gordon
Try using the light detector on the seeing AI app. It works great in 
situations where you need to check lights.


On 6/2/2019 6:27 PM, janet gross wrote:

Hi All,
For those who might have been following one of my threads regarding the 
flashlight on my phone, and because Be My Eyes had to turn my flashlight on my 
phone through their phone in order to see.  Well, I have to admit I feel so 
embarrassed to even admit this,as it was pretty stupid on my part.  So here 
goes, once again, I called Apple Accessibility, and I told them every time I 
call Be My Eyes, they keep telling me they can't see anything except complete 
black, and they would have to turn on my flash through their iPhone.  So Apple 
rep checked it, on my phone by seeing if they could see anything on my kitchen 
counter.  Well, the Apple rep was telling me the exact samething that Be My 
Eyes was telling me, Janet everything is completely black.  The main problem 
was one of my kitchen lightbulbs directly above my kitchen counter, and where I 
would hold a product so Be My Eyes could read it to me.  Well, low in behold, 
one of the lightbulbs blew out, and I never even thought about that!  De!  I 
felt so stupid, but luckily enough, the Apple rep has a father who is blind, 
and he said he goes through this quite often with his father!  I don't know who 
laughed more me or the Apple rep!  Wow, did I kick myself for that one!  Smile! 
 I guess that is what I get for being blind!  Although, I kept turning the 
light switch on, but I just never thought to feel the lightbulb, until the 
Apple rep said hey Janet how about feeling the lightbulb, and I said oh yeah, I 
never thought of that.  I then had to get a chair and an extra lightbulb, and 
insert it, and the Apple rep said, hey Janet I can see your whole kitchen!  
Smile!  For those who might not know I am totally blind, and I live alone.  I 
couldn't imagine when my sighted family or friends would come around, that they 
didn't even say anything about that.  I have this one friend who comes over 
often when she is on break from work, and she is always turning on the other 
two lights, and raising the window shades, and I just would think wow, some 
sighted people really need a lot of light, but I didn't need that much light to 
see when I was sighted!  Well, I'm happy that problem is solved!  LOL!  The 
Apple rep told me not to feel bad about it, because he also learned something, 
he didn't know someone else using an iPhone could turn on my flash through 
another phone.
So I want to thank all those who tried to help.
Janet
Peace Be With You.



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