Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-19 Thread Bill Rappos
Hi all!

Just wanted to let you know that our latest update is rolling out over the
App Store. Here's the changelog:

New:
- iOS 6 support
- Manual capitalization is back: In manual entry mode, flick up after a
letter to change to upper case. Flick down for lower case
- Add twitter handles and emails to the dictionary! With manual entry, type
@fleksy and flick up like normal. Now whenever you type fleksy,
@fleksy will be one of the suggestions.
Similarly, feedbackfleksycom will be corrected to feedb...@fleksy.com

Fixed:
- Tamed the instructional popup
- , ? ! ; : will now be read properly by VO instead of Period
- various bugs and crashes

Hint:
Start your text with:
M @fleksy
and select Tweet from menu to send us a DM :D

Known Issue:
- On iOS 6, Fleksy might stop processing taps properly on app resume when
VO is enabled. Workaround: Quit Fleksy from App Switcher and restart. Your
text will be saved. We are working on a fix for the next update.

Once again, we want to apologize for any inconvenience. We start to rebuild
with this version.

Looking forward to your feedback!

- the Fleksy team


On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:

  Bill, thanks so much for providing this information. I am still
 optimistic I'll get Fleksy back on my iOS 6.1.4 iPhone 5 but it is very
 nice to know what was driving your decision to move to iOS 7. The ability
 for third-party apps to integrate the Fleksy keyboard into their app so
 that users can type with Fleksy is a wonderful feature. If I'm reading my
 list posts correctly, it sounds as if BlindSquare has already integrated
 Fleksy.



 I look forward to your updates on this issue at least until I decide to
 upgrade to iOS 7.



 Alan Lemly



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 Behalf Of *Bill Rappos
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 *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
 *Subject:* Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?



 Lucian, Christopher, thanks for following up on the discussion.



 I understand your concerns and agree that the switch to iOS 7 did not go
 as planned. The unexpected time bomb bug forced our hand before we could
 incorporate iOS 6 support for our brand new engine or even communicate the
 change appropriately.

 There is, however, reason why our keyboard service is at this time
 compatible only with iOS 7. As of today, Fleksy is available as a keyboard
 option for third party apps. This means that Fleksy can be integrated at
 the application-level of any iOS app. Any developer can incorporate Fleksy
 into their app, giving their users the choice to type with Fleksy.



 We were able to develop the SDK because of the tools iOS 7 introduced.



 However, since last week we made progress in porting the new engine to iOS
 6 and have built alpha versions since. Pending a few crashes, we will be
 submitting an update for Fleksy to restore functionality for iOS 6 as soon
 as possible.



 Once again, thank you fore your patience and understanding!



 - Bill from the Fleksy team



 Read more about our Fleksy SDK and the 4 apps that offer Fleksy as their
 keyboard right now at
 http://fleksy.com/blog/android-cant-have-all-the-fun-fleksy-comes-to-ios/



 On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 I'm not sure Fleksy is leaving that many people behind. The vast majority
 of people have moved up to IOS 7. I think the people with a real beef are
 those iPhone 3 users who can't move up to IOS 7 at all.

 Fleksy is by no means the only app that predates IOS 7 which is now only
 supported on IOS 7. Obviously, a developer would have to spend testing
 resources on IOS 6 and IOS 7 if they're going to continue to support both
 levels of the operating system. This cost alone may keep a small company
 from supporting both operating systems. It's also my understanding that
 Apple changes API's from version to version, so it's not a given that
 there's no work involved in supporting both IOS 6 and IOS 7.

 Apple did take a beating when they rolled out IOS 7 updates automatically
 to people whether they upgraded or wanted to upgrade or not, so I'm sure
 they'd take a beating in the scenario you described below. This doesn't
 mean it isn't a good business idea for Apple to keep moving people up and
 for developers to assume everyone is on the latest. This model has
 obviously been wildly successful for Apple, and there's a lot of benefits
 for Apple, developers and users to all be on the latest and greatest
 software.



 On 12/11/2013 12:48 AM, Lucian Fratila wrote:

 Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior notice pulled
 support from a large chunk of its users (those on iOS 6 in this case).

 Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for an obvious
 variety of reasons - and most certainly not because an app forces me to.
 What I find absolutely mind-boggling is that we're talking

Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-19 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I for one am glad the sdk is available to third party apps and am 
glad that iOS 7 was able to make this possible. I understand the few who 
can't or won't upgrade to iOS 7, but honestly, if you can, and you want 
to stay with using some of the latest technologies, then upgrading is 
the only way to do this. It's always been this way.


--
Raul A. Gallegos
Instagram is basically Twitter for people who can't read. - Sheldon Cooper
Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47

On 12/12/2013 11:10 AM, Bill Rappos wrote:

Lucian, Christopher, thanks for following up on the discussion.

I understand your concerns and agree that the switch to iOS 7 did not go
as planned. The unexpected time bomb bug forced our hand before we could
incorporate iOS 6 support for our brand new engine or even communicate
the change appropriately.
There is, however, reason why our keyboard service is at this time
compatible only with iOS 7. As of today, Fleksy is available as a
keyboard option for third party apps. This means that Fleksy can be
integrated at the application-level of any iOS app. Any developer can
incorporate Fleksy into their app, giving their users the choice to type
with Fleksy.

We were able to develop the SDK because of the tools iOS 7 introduced.

However, since last week we made progress in porting the new engine to
iOS 6 and have built alpha versions since. Pending a few crashes, we
will be submitting an update for Fleksy to restore functionality for iOS
6 as soon as possible.

Once again, thank you fore your patience and understanding!

- Bill from the Fleksy team

Read more about our Fleksy SDK and the 4 apps that offer Fleksy as their
keyboard right now at
http://fleksy.com/blog/android-cant-have-all-the-fun-fleksy-comes-to-ios/


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Chaltain
chalt...@gmail.com mailto:chalt...@gmail.com wrote:

I'm not sure Fleksy is leaving that many people behind. The vast
majority of people have moved up to IOS 7. I think the people with a
real beef are those iPhone 3 users who can't move up to IOS 7 at all.

Fleksy is by no means the only app that predates IOS 7 which is now
only supported on IOS 7. Obviously, a developer would have to spend
testing resources on IOS 6 and IOS 7 if they're going to continue to
support both levels of the operating system. This cost alone may
keep a small company from supporting both operating systems. It's
also my understanding that Apple changes API's from version to
version, so it's not a given that there's no work involved in
supporting both IOS 6 and IOS 7.

Apple did take a beating when they rolled out IOS 7 updates
automatically to people whether they upgraded or wanted to upgrade
or not, so I'm sure they'd take a beating in the scenario you
described below. This doesn't mean it isn't a good business idea for
Apple to keep moving people up and for developers to assume everyone
is on the latest. This model has obviously been wildly successful
for Apple, and there's a lot of benefits for Apple, developers and
users to all be on the latest and greatest software.


On 12/11/2013 12:48 AM, Lucian Fratila wrote:

Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior
notice pulled support from a large chunk of its users (those on
iOS 6 in this case).

Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for
an obvious variety of reasons - and most certainly not because
an app forces me to. What I find absolutely mind-boggling is
that we're talking here about an offline app, that worked very
well thank you on iOS 6 before.

Yes, I did contact Fleksy support and they simply told me that
Fleksy version 1.9 (the last iOS 6 working version) is not
supported anymore. As if they had to!

Yes, there are apps that only work on iOS 7 these days. But they
either started on iOS 7, or they have a backend that no longer
supports the iOS 6 version. As far as I understand, the
technology behind Fleksy is built-in inside the app and does not
require online presence (heck, if a typing app requires you to
be connected to their servers, then something is fishy big time).

So in short I find no excusable justification to what Fleksy
did. They're lucky their service is not high profile and they
don't affect a real lot of paying users. Just think the backlash
that, say, Apple would get if suddenly iTunes would no longer
start on OS X pre-Mavericks, and would give you no option but to
upgrade, even on a 2007 laptop. Luckily for them Fleksy is no
Apple. But at this rate, I don't see them even turning
profitable. What a shame when it's not the technology that
buries you, but poor customer support.

/end of rant


--
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chaltain at Gmail


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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-12 Thread Bill Rappos
Lucian, Christopher, thanks for following up on the discussion.

I understand your concerns and agree that the switch to iOS 7 did not go as
planned. The unexpected time bomb bug forced our hand before we could
incorporate iOS 6 support for our brand new engine or even communicate the
change appropriately.
There is, however, reason why our keyboard service is at this time
compatible only with iOS 7. As of today, Fleksy is available as a keyboard
option for third party apps. This means that Fleksy can be integrated at
the application-level of any iOS app. Any developer can incorporate Fleksy
into their app, giving their users the choice to type with Fleksy.

We were able to develop the SDK because of the tools iOS 7 introduced.

However, since last week we made progress in porting the new engine to iOS
6 and have built alpha versions since. Pending a few crashes, we will be
submitting an update for Fleksy to restore functionality for iOS 6 as soon
as possible.

Once again, thank you fore your patience and understanding!

- Bill from the Fleksy team

Read more about our Fleksy SDK and the 4 apps that offer Fleksy as their
keyboard right now at
http://fleksy.com/blog/android-cant-have-all-the-fun-fleksy-comes-to-ios/


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.comwrote:

 I'm not sure Fleksy is leaving that many people behind. The vast majority
 of people have moved up to IOS 7. I think the people with a real beef are
 those iPhone 3 users who can't move up to IOS 7 at all.

 Fleksy is by no means the only app that predates IOS 7 which is now only
 supported on IOS 7. Obviously, a developer would have to spend testing
 resources on IOS 6 and IOS 7 if they're going to continue to support both
 levels of the operating system. This cost alone may keep a small company
 from supporting both operating systems. It's also my understanding that
 Apple changes API's from version to version, so it's not a given that
 there's no work involved in supporting both IOS 6 and IOS 7.

 Apple did take a beating when they rolled out IOS 7 updates automatically
 to people whether they upgraded or wanted to upgrade or not, so I'm sure
 they'd take a beating in the scenario you described below. This doesn't
 mean it isn't a good business idea for Apple to keep moving people up and
 for developers to assume everyone is on the latest. This model has
 obviously been wildly successful for Apple, and there's a lot of benefits
 for Apple, developers and users to all be on the latest and greatest
 software.


 On 12/11/2013 12:48 AM, Lucian Fratila wrote:

 Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior notice pulled
 support from a large chunk of its users (those on iOS 6 in this case).

 Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for an
 obvious variety of reasons - and most certainly not because an app forces
 me to. What I find absolutely mind-boggling is that we're talking here
 about an offline app, that worked very well thank you on iOS 6 before.

 Yes, I did contact Fleksy support and they simply told me that Fleksy
 version 1.9 (the last iOS 6 working version) is not supported anymore. As
 if they had to!

 Yes, there are apps that only work on iOS 7 these days. But they either
 started on iOS 7, or they have a backend that no longer supports the iOS 6
 version. As far as I understand, the technology behind Fleksy is built-in
 inside the app and does not require online presence (heck, if a typing app
 requires you to be connected to their servers, then something is fishy big
 time).

 So in short I find no excusable justification to what Fleksy did. They're
 lucky their service is not high profile and they don't affect a real lot of
 paying users. Just think the backlash that, say, Apple would get if
 suddenly iTunes would no longer start on OS X pre-Mavericks, and would give
 you no option but to upgrade, even on a 2007 laptop. Luckily for them
 Fleksy is no Apple. But at this rate, I don't see them even turning
 profitable. What a shame when it's not the technology that buries you, but
 poor customer support.

 /end of rant


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 chaltain at Gmail


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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-12 Thread Alan Lemly
Bill, thanks so much for providing this information. I am still optimistic
I'll get Fleksy back on my iOS 6.1.4 iPhone 5 but it is very nice to know
what was driving your decision to move to iOS 7. The ability for third-party
apps to integrate the Fleksy keyboard into their app so that users can type
with Fleksy is a wonderful feature. If I'm reading my list posts correctly,
it sounds as if BlindSquare has already integrated Fleksy.

 

I look forward to your updates on this issue at least until I decide to
upgrade to iOS 7.

 

Alan Lemly 

 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Rappos
Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2013 11:10 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

Lucian, Christopher, thanks for following up on the discussion. 

 

I understand your concerns and agree that the switch to iOS 7 did not go as
planned. The unexpected time bomb bug forced our hand before we could
incorporate iOS 6 support for our brand new engine or even communicate the
change appropriately. 

There is, however, reason why our keyboard service is at this time
compatible only with iOS 7. As of today, Fleksy is available as a keyboard
option for third party apps. This means that Fleksy can be integrated at the
application-level of any iOS app. Any developer can incorporate Fleksy into
their app, giving their users the choice to type with Fleksy. 

 

We were able to develop the SDK because of the tools iOS 7 introduced.

 

However, since last week we made progress in porting the new engine to iOS 6
and have built alpha versions since. Pending a few crashes, we will be
submitting an update for Fleksy to restore functionality for iOS 6 as soon
as possible.

 

Once again, thank you fore your patience and understanding!

 

- Bill from the Fleksy team

 

Read more about our Fleksy SDK and the 4 apps that offer Fleksy as their
keyboard right now at
http://fleksy.com/blog/android-cant-have-all-the-fun-fleksy-comes-to-ios/

 

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM, Christopher Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com
wrote:

I'm not sure Fleksy is leaving that many people behind. The vast majority of
people have moved up to IOS 7. I think the people with a real beef are those
iPhone 3 users who can't move up to IOS 7 at all.

Fleksy is by no means the only app that predates IOS 7 which is now only
supported on IOS 7. Obviously, a developer would have to spend testing
resources on IOS 6 and IOS 7 if they're going to continue to support both
levels of the operating system. This cost alone may keep a small company
from supporting both operating systems. It's also my understanding that
Apple changes API's from version to version, so it's not a given that
there's no work involved in supporting both IOS 6 and IOS 7.

Apple did take a beating when they rolled out IOS 7 updates automatically to
people whether they upgraded or wanted to upgrade or not, so I'm sure they'd
take a beating in the scenario you described below. This doesn't mean it
isn't a good business idea for Apple to keep moving people up and for
developers to assume everyone is on the latest. This model has obviously
been wildly successful for Apple, and there's a lot of benefits for Apple,
developers and users to all be on the latest and greatest software.



On 12/11/2013 12:48 AM, Lucian Fratila wrote:

Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior notice pulled
support from a large chunk of its users (those on iOS 6 in this case).

Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for an obvious
variety of reasons - and most certainly not because an app forces me to.
What I find absolutely mind-boggling is that we're talking here about an
offline app, that worked very well thank you on iOS 6 before.

Yes, I did contact Fleksy support and they simply told me that Fleksy
version 1.9 (the last iOS 6 working version) is not supported anymore. As if
they had to!

Yes, there are apps that only work on iOS 7 these days. But they either
started on iOS 7, or they have a backend that no longer supports the iOS 6
version. As far as I understand, the technology behind Fleksy is built-in
inside the app and does not require online presence (heck, if a typing app
requires you to be connected to their servers, then something is fishy big
time).

So in short I find no excusable justification to what Fleksy did. They're
lucky their service is not high profile and they don't affect a real lot of
paying users. Just think the backlash that, say, Apple would get if suddenly
iTunes would no longer start on OS X pre-Mavericks, and would give you no
option but to upgrade, even on a 2007 laptop. Luckily for them Fleksy is no
Apple. But at this rate, I don't see them even turning profitable. What a
shame when it's not the technology that buries you, but poor customer
support.

/end of rant


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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-11 Thread Lucian Fratila
Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior notice pulled 
support from a large chunk of its users (those on iOS 6 in this case).

Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for an obvious 
variety of reasons - and most certainly not because an app forces me to. What I 
find absolutely mind-boggling is that we're talking here about an offline app, 
that worked very well thank you on iOS 6 before.

Yes, I did contact Fleksy support and they simply told me that Fleksy version 
1.9 (the last iOS 6 working version) is not supported anymore. As if they had 
to!

Yes, there are apps that only work on iOS 7 these days. But they either started 
on iOS 7, or they have a backend that no longer supports the iOS 6 version. As 
far as I understand, the technology behind Fleksy is built-in inside the app 
and does not require online presence (heck, if a typing app requires you to be 
connected to their servers, then something is fishy big time).

So in short I find no excusable justification to what Fleksy did. They're lucky 
their service is not high profile and they don't affect a real lot of paying 
users. Just think the backlash that, say, Apple would get if suddenly iTunes 
would no longer start on OS X pre-Mavericks, and would give you no option but 
to upgrade, even on a 2007 laptop. Luckily for them Fleksy is no Apple. But at 
this rate, I don't see them even turning profitable. What a shame when it's not 
the technology that buries you, but poor customer support.

/end of rant

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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-11 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm not sure Fleksy is leaving that many people behind. The vast 
majority of people have moved up to IOS 7. I think the people with a 
real beef are those iPhone 3 users who can't move up to IOS 7 at all.


Fleksy is by no means the only app that predates IOS 7 which is now only 
supported on IOS 7. Obviously, a developer would have to spend testing 
resources on IOS 6 and IOS 7 if they're going to continue to support 
both levels of the operating system. This cost alone may keep a small 
company from supporting both operating systems. It's also my 
understanding that Apple changes API's from version to version, so it's 
not a given that there's no work involved in supporting both IOS 6 and 
IOS 7.


Apple did take a beating when they rolled out IOS 7 updates 
automatically to people whether they upgraded or wanted to upgrade or 
not, so I'm sure they'd take a beating in the scenario you described 
below. This doesn't mean it isn't a good business idea for Apple to keep 
moving people up and for developers to assume everyone is on the latest. 
This model has obviously been wildly successful for Apple, and there's a 
lot of benefits for Apple, developers and users to all be on the latest 
and greatest software.


On 12/11/2013 12:48 AM, Lucian Fratila wrote:

Honestly I can't think of any other app that with no prior notice pulled 
support from a large chunk of its users (those on iOS 6 in this case).

Yes I have an iPhone 4 and no, I don't want to upgrade to 7 for an obvious 
variety of reasons - and most certainly not because an app forces me to. What I 
find absolutely mind-boggling is that we're talking here about an offline app, 
that worked very well thank you on iOS 6 before.

Yes, I did contact Fleksy support and they simply told me that Fleksy version 
1.9 (the last iOS 6 working version) is not supported anymore. As if they had 
to!

Yes, there are apps that only work on iOS 7 these days. But they either started 
on iOS 7, or they have a backend that no longer supports the iOS 6 version. As 
far as I understand, the technology behind Fleksy is built-in inside the app 
and does not require online presence (heck, if a typing app requires you to be 
connected to their servers, then something is fishy big time).

So in short I find no excusable justification to what Fleksy did. They're lucky 
their service is not high profile and they don't affect a real lot of paying 
users. Just think the backlash that, say, Apple would get if suddenly iTunes 
would no longer start on OS X pre-Mavericks, and would give you no option but 
to upgrade, even on a 2007 laptop. Luckily for them Fleksy is no Apple. But at 
this rate, I don't see them even turning profitable. What a shame when it's not 
the technology that buries you, but poor customer support.

/end of rant



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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Hope Paulos
How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?

Sent from my iPod

On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with 
 the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I decide 
 to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for other 
 typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the process of 
 learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be ideal. I 
 would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my vision is very 
 limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any suggestions would be 
 appreciated.
  
 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I 
 prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time 
 another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit 
 of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an 
 app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes 
 numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I 
 don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade 
 too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will 
 no doubt return to it at some point.
  
 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.
  
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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Daniel Miller
Hi,

You don’t need to search for alternatives. Apple allows you to download the 
latest version of an app that’s compatible with your device if you’re not 
running iOS 7.

On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:

 How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with 
 the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I 
 decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions 
 for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the 
 process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be 
 ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my 
 vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any 
 suggestions would be appreciated.
  
 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I 
 prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time 
 another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit 
 of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an 
 app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes 
 numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I 
 don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade 
 too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will 
 no doubt return to it at some point.
  
 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.
  
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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Alan Lemly
I have a Verbatim bluetooth keyboard that folds up for portability but I've
never really used it since Fleksy was so convenient. I think I would prefer
an app since that will always be available on the phone but I appreciate
your suggestion.

 

Alan

 

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Of Hope Paulos
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?

Sent from my iPod


On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:

As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

 

I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade
too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will
no doubt return to it at some point.

 

Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Wil James
Why not just upgrade to iOS 7?

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:48 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I have a Verbatim bluetooth keyboard that folds up for portability but I've 
 never really used it since Fleksy was so convenient. I think I would prefer 
 an app since that will always be available on the phone but I appreciate your 
 suggestion.
  
 Alan
  
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
 Hope Paulos
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?
  
 How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?
 
 Sent from my iPod
 
 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with 
 the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I 
 decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions 
 for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the 
 process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be 
 ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my 
 vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any 
 suggestions would be appreciated.
  
 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I 
 prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time 
 another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit 
 of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an 
 app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes 
 numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I 
 don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade 
 too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will 
 no doubt return to it at some point.
  
 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.
  
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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Alan Lemly
Maybe you could provide some more details about how to do this. When I've
tried running Fleksy since its latest upgrade, I get a message forcing me to
the Apps Store for the latest upgrade. When I attempt to do that, I get a
message saying the new version requires iOS 7 and to execute another button
if I want to install the last version compatible with my iOS. When I do this
and run the app again, I get the upgrade required message once again so I'm
in a circular loop. Any ideas?

 

Alan

 

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Of Daniel Miller
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:43 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

Hi,

 

You don't need to search for alternatives. Apple allows you to download the
latest version of an app that's compatible with your device if you're not
running iOS 7.

 

On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:





How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?

Sent from my iPod


On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly  mailto:wale...@gmail.com
wale...@gmail.com wrote:

As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

 

I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade
too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will
no doubt return to it at some point.

 

Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

 

Alan Lemly

 

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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Wayne Merritt
Have you sent your difficulties to the Fleksy team:
supp...@fleksy.com
I've read similar posts from others on this list, so hopefully the
Fleksy team is being well informed. Still, the squeaky wheel and all,
...

Wayne

On 12/3/13, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe you could provide some more details about how to do this. When I've
 tried running Fleksy since its latest upgrade, I get a message forcing me
 to
 the Apps Store for the latest upgrade. When I attempt to do that, I get a
 message saying the new version requires iOS 7 and to execute another button
 if I want to install the last version compatible with my iOS. When I do
 this
 and run the app again, I get the upgrade required message once again so I'm
 in a circular loop. Any ideas?



 Alan



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 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Daniel Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?



 Hi,



 You don't need to search for alternatives. Apple allows you to download the
 latest version of an app that's compatible with your device if you're not
 running iOS 7.



 On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:





 How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?

 Sent from my iPod


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly  mailto:wale...@gmail.com
 wale...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
 the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
 decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
 for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
 process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
 ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
 vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
 suggestions would be appreciated.



 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
 prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
 another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
 of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
 app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
 numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
 don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS
 upgrade
 too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I
 will
 no doubt return to it at some point.



 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.



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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alan,

 

Of course upgrading is your choice, but unless you have an iPhone 4 iOS 7
really is a good upgrade and it offers some features which in my opinion
easily make up for the bugs. In any case, we should be very close to the 7.1
upgrade and I would be surprised if some of the main issues wouldn't be
addressed here. I do, however, think that Fleksy needs to address this issue
about the app asking to update because how about iPhone 3GS users or iPhone
4 users who don't want to upgrade. As somebody else pointed out, Apple
offers this new functionality where somebody can download the last version
of an app which worked under an older version of the OS and I would contact
Fleksy support and request that they make sure this works and is possible.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

 

I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade
too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will
no doubt return to it at some point.

 

Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

 

Alan Lemly

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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Alan Lemly
Yes, I've sent messages to Fleksy Support on several occasions including
this one and find they are very good at apologizing for any inconvenience
and even better at ignoring the specific questions asked or issues raised.

I realize if I want to continue to use this app that I'll have to eventually
upgrade to iOS 7. But it's only been out about three months and with the
exception of Fleksy, I'm very pleased with how my current apps work under
iOS 6.1.4.

Alan

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

Have you sent your difficulties to the Fleksy team:
supp...@fleksy.com
I've read similar posts from others on this list, so hopefully the
Fleksy team is being well informed. Still, the squeaky wheel and all,
...

Wayne

On 12/3/13, Alan Lemly wale...@gmail.com wrote:
 Maybe you could provide some more details about how to do this. When I've
 tried running Fleksy since its latest upgrade, I get a message forcing me
 to
 the Apps Store for the latest upgrade. When I attempt to do that, I get a
 message saying the new version requires iOS 7 and to execute another
button
 if I want to install the last version compatible with my iOS. When I do
 this
 and run the app again, I get the upgrade required message once again so
I'm
 in a circular loop. Any ideas?



 Alan



 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Daniel Miller
 Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 10:43 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?



 Hi,



 You don't need to search for alternatives. Apple allows you to download
the
 latest version of an app that's compatible with your device if you're not
 running iOS 7.



 On Dec 3, 2013, at 10:39 AM, Hope Paulos hope.pau...@gmail.com wrote:





 How about a  Bluetooth keyboard?

 Sent from my iPod


 On Dec 3, 2013, at 11:37 AM, Alan Lemly  mailto:wale...@gmail.com
 wale...@gmail.com wrote:

 As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
 the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
 decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
 for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in
the
 process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would
be
 ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
 vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
 suggestions would be appreciated.



 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think
I
 prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every
time
 another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a
bit
 of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning
an
 app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that
makes
 numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
 don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS
 upgrade
 too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I
 will
 no doubt return to it at some point.



 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.



 Alan Lemly



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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Alan Lemly
Hi Sieghard, and thanks for your comments about iOS 7. I will no doubt move
to it at some point and perhaps when version 7.1 comes out, that will be it.
I just saw another post from Syntellia which seems to indicate that at some
point those of us running older versions of Fleksy will no longer get the
upgrade message which prevents the app from running at launch. We'll see and
in the meantime, I've written iTunes Store Support so I can understand
better Apple's policy about forced iOS upgrades in order to continue using
an app that comes out with a new version.

 

Alan

 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:46 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

Hi Alan,

 

Of course upgrading is your choice, but unless you have an iPhone 4 iOS 7
really is a good upgrade and it offers some features which in my opinion
easily make up for the bugs. In any case, we should be very close to the 7.1
upgrade and I would be surprised if some of the main issues wouldn't be
addressed here. I do, however, think that Fleksy needs to address this issue
about the app asking to update because how about iPhone 3GS users or iPhone
4 users who don't want to upgrade. As somebody else pointed out, Apple
offers this new functionality where somebody can download the last version
of an app which worked under an older version of the OS and I would contact
Fleksy support and request that they make sure this works and is possible.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

 

As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

 

I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade
too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will
no doubt return to it at some point.

 

Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

 

Alan Lemly

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Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Bill Rappos
Hey guys, 

Thank you for the discussion, we appreciate all feedback and try to keep 
open communication on all platforms.

We just posted the following message on AppleVis and I thought it would be 
helpful if I shared it here as well:

Just wanted to let you know we have some promising leads on how to restore 
functionality for iOS 6 devices.

We are working on it and should our work be fruitful, plan to submit an 
update as soon as possible.

Thank you for expressing your commitment to Fleksy and thank you for 
reaching out to us with your honest feedback.

We are equally committed to supporting Fleksy for as many users as 
possible., 
http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/productivity/fleksy-happy-typing#comment-19668

Thanks again for your honesty. We do really appreciate your patience with 
us 

Regards,

- Bill from the Fleksy team

On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:37:54 AM UTC-8, Alan Lemly wrote:

  As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that 
 with the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I 
 decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions 
 for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the 
 process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be 
 ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my 
 vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any 
 suggestions would be appreciated.

  

 I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think 
 I prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every 
 time another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like 
 a bit of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time 
 learning an app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to 
 something that makes numerous interface changes in order to provide some 
 new features that I don't want. This is particularly true when the 
 upgrade forces an iOS upgrade too. Fleksy's excellent predictive 
 functionality was quite amazing so I will no doubt return to it at some 
 point.

  

 Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

  

 Alan Lemly
  

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RE: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?

2013-12-03 Thread Alan Lemly
Bill, thanks for this encouraging news and good luck with restoring Fleksy
functionality for those of us running pre-iOS 7 versions.
 
Alan

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Bill Rappos
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 8:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Fleksy Alternatives for pre-iOS 7 Users?


Hey guys,  

Thank you for the discussion, we appreciate all feedback and try to keep
open communication on all platforms.

We just posted the following message on AppleVis and I thought it would be
helpful if I shared it here as well:



Just wanted to let you know we have some promising leads on how to restore
functionality for iOS 6 devices.

We are working on it and should our work be fruitful, plan to submit an
update as soon as possible.

Thank you for expressing your commitment to Fleksy and thank you for
reaching out to us with your honest feedback.

We are equally committed to supporting Fleksy for as many users as
possible.,
http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/productivity/fleksy-happy-typing#comment-19
668

Thanks again for your honesty. We do really appreciate your patience with us


Regards,

- Bill from the Fleksy team


On Tuesday, December 3, 2013 8:37:54 AM UTC-8, Alan Lemly wrote: 

As I suspected, I just received confirmation from Fleksy Support that with
the latest upgrade, the app only works with iOS 7.0 and later. Until I
decide to upgrade to iOS 7, I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions
for other typing alternative apps that work well with VoiceOver. I'm in the
process of learning braille so don't think an app such as MBraille would be
ideal. I would prefer something using a QWERTY keyboard format. And my
vision is very limited so integration with VoiceOver is a must. Any
suggestions would be appreciated.

 

I really enjoyed Fleksy during the nine months I was using it but I think I
prefer apps that don't feel the need to upgrade quite so quickly every time
another iOS version is released. Yes, I know that makes me sound like a bit
of a Luddite but I suspect I'm not the only one who spends time learning an
app that meets my needs and doesn't want to upgrade to something that makes
numerous interface changes in order to provide some new features that I
don't want. This is particularly true when the upgrade forces an iOS upgrade
too. Fleksy's excellent predictive functionality was quite amazing so I will
no doubt return to it at some point.

 

Thanks in advance for any typing alternative app recommendations.

 

Alan Lemly



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