Re: jail breaking a iphone
hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: jail breaking a iphone
hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I didn't know if that would be allowed on list. by all means if it is let's talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or is that not necessary? understand I would be coming from android thus the question. sorry in advance for so many questions. - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: jail breaking a iphone
Jailbreaking became an acceptable topic when it was determined that Jailbreaking is legal. Before that time, talking about Jailbreaking was against the list rules. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 29 May 2014, at 13:08, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion of jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the owner or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking is permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've never tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator also used to jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing that or not. I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone asks a question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts on numerous subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different navigation apps and so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I think I can help by pointing to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm not personally well versed with then I'll do that, and I don't think there's a problem with that. I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the list who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running IOS 5, but I haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to move up to newer versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps wouldn't run on a jail broken iPhone. On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen. Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote: hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I didn't know if that would be allowed on list. by all means if it is let's talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or is that not necessary? understand I would be coming from android thus the question. sorry in advance for so many questions. - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group
Re: jail breaking a iphone
Is it legal outside North America? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2014, at 13:34, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote: Jailbreaking became an acceptable topic when it was determined that Jailbreaking is legal. Before that time, talking about Jailbreaking was against the list rules. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 29 May 2014, at 13:08, Christopher J Chaltain chalt...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion of jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the owner or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking is permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've never tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator also used to jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing that or not. I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone asks a question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts on numerous subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different navigation apps and so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I think I can help by pointing to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm not personally well versed with then I'll do that, and I don't think there's a problem with that. I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the list who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running IOS 5, but I haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to move up to newer versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps wouldn't run on a jail broken iPhone. On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit
RE: jail breaking a iphone
Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group
Re: jail breaking a iphone
hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?. And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?. Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com
RE: jail breaking a iphone
Hello Haya, According to Apple you will void your warranty if you jailbreak your phone. Of course, if you jailbreak and something happens you could always unjailbreak the phone again provided of course the phone works to the point where you can do that. Also, what version of iOS are you on? Did you upgrade to 7.1 or 7.1.1? If so youa re out of luck anyways as the latest jailbreak can only be done with phones running iOS 7.04 or lower. I guess you should be able to find out relatively soon whether Hebrew will be included in iOS 8. Apple will be offering a live stream of their world wide developer conference event on Monday at the following link: https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014 The event starts at 10 AM Pacific Time which would be at 8 PM israeli time for you. It is, of course, unlikely they mention all the small details during the iOS 8 announcement and I think additional Voiceover languages might be considered a small detail, but there may very well be something in the announcement regarding accessibility in general and Voiceover in particular if there are major new features coming. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen. Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote: hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I didn't know if that would be allowed on list. by all means if it is let's talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or is that not necessary? understand I would be coming from android thus the question. sorry in advance for so many questions. - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members
RE: jail breaking a iphone
I jailbroke my iPhone 5S, which was running iOS 7.0.3 when I did it. My brother's iPhone 4 running the same software was jailbroken in the same way. I don't know how to check whether your phone is unlocked, but maybe if you put another carrier's sim card in it will tell you. You won't be able to make calls, etc. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 01:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?. And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?. Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone
RE: jail breaking a iphone
Billy, What version of iOS are you on? Also, only way to see if your phone is unlocked is to put in the SIM of a different provider and see if the phone works. However, if you bought the phone on contract when it came out and you have never requested it to be unlocked then it is not. Now that you are not under contract and I assume since you have a 4S that you are not, you could request an official unlock from your provider. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?. And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?. Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I have iOS 7.1.1, so I guess I couldn't jailbreak the phone anyhow. Thanks for the info and the link. I assume that anything related to accessibility will be posted to the list. Am I correct? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2014, at 14:32, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hello Haya, According to Apple you will void your warranty if you jailbreak your phone. Of course, if you jailbreak and something happens you could always unjailbreak the phone again provided of course the phone works to the point where you can do that. Also, what version of iOS are you on? Did you upgrade to 7.1 or 7.1.1? If so youa re out of luck anyways as the latest jailbreak can only be done with phones running iOS 7.04 or lower. I guess you should be able to find out relatively soon whether Hebrew will be included in iOS 8. Apple will be offering a live stream of their world wide developer conference event on Monday at the following link: https://www.apple.com/apple-events/june-2014 The event starts at 10 AM Pacific Time which would be at 8 PM israeli time for you. It is, of course, unlikely they mention all the small details during the iOS 8 announcement and I think additional Voiceover languages might be considered a small detail, but there may very well be something in the announcement regarding accessibility in general and Voiceover in particular if there are major new features coming. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 3:37 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I'm considering whether to get my phone jail broken. I'd like to be able to install a Hebrew voice for VoiceOver. There are a few things stopping me though. First of all, I don't know much about it, what would happen to the warrantee for my two month old phone, or how risky jail breaking might be. I also would like to know whether Apple would be adding Hebrew support for VoiceOver, in which case, I'd rather wait til then. There was talk of apple doing this last September, but obviously, this didn't happen. Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On May 29, 2014, at 13:15, Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote: hi Dennis, I'm also in the dark as far as Jailbreaking goes. I have an iPhone4s and would really think about getting it Jailbroken, but I do not know anything about Jailbreaking, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:59 PM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I didn't know if that would be allowed on list. by all means if it is let's talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or is that not necessary? understand I would be coming from android thus the question. sorry in advance for so many questions. - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group
Re: jail breaking a iphone
hi Tracy, thanks for the help and advice, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:30 PM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone I jailbroke my iPhone 5S, which was running iOS 7.0.3 when I did it. My brother's iPhone 4 running the same software was jailbroken in the same way. I don't know how to check whether your phone is unlocked, but maybe if you put another carrier's sim card in it will tell you. You won't be able to make calls, etc. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 01:19 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?. And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?. Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
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Sieghard, I will check the IOS later. I purcchased the phone second hand from a mobile phone store locally, Billy - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:37 PM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Billy, What version of iOS are you on? Also, only way to see if your phone is unlocked is to put in the SIM of a different provider and see if the phone works. However, if you bought the phone on contract when it came out and you have never requested it to be unlocked then it is not. Now that you are not under contract and I assume since you have a 4S that you are not, you could request an official unlock from your provider. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 4:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Tracy, what phone have you gotten jailbroken?. And was it running IOS 7 By any chance?. Any Idea how i check to find out if my 4s is unlocked?, Billy - Original Message - From: Tracy Smith trasle...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:54 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi I've jailbroken my phone, and I like it better that way, although I agree that with iOS7 the reasons to jailbreak become less and less. You can find out how and get the software needed from www.evasi0n.com. I guess most of the apps and tweaks I get are to circumvent iTunes, which I don't like. Once jailbroken, iTunes and app store and everything still works fine. You get another app store, Cydia, where you can download jailbreak apps and tweaks. My favourite tweaks are AnyRing, which lets you use any music file as a ringtone or SMS tone. AirBlue Sharing which fixes one of my main irks with iOS: To be able to send files to any Bluetooth-enabled phone or PC. Bridge, which allows you to put downloaded files straight into your iTunes library. Not to mention Safari Download Enabler, which does what its name implies. iFile too. There are others, but I can't think of them right now. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: 29 May 2014 11:41 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone hi Pablo, I totally agree, let's discuss it right here, Billy - Original Message - From: Pablo Morales pablomorale...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:45 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself
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Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with? Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I want all features of my phone. I am thinking of going with straight talk. - Original Message - From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with? Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following
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Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Dennis, You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you install and it may also make it less secure. Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has nothing at all to do with jailbreaking. Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your plan. Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their monthly plan for the 2 year period. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I want all features of my phone. I am thinking of going with straight talk. - Original Message - From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with? Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
RE: jail breaking a iphone
Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
RE: jail breaking a iphone
IPhone 4S users? Just curious. Lol Jerry Mader Jerry Mader Sent from my PC -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I think people get confused when it comes to jailbreaking versus unlocking, neither of which are illegal. Jailbreaking sounds illegal, so people think it's a taboo topic, but it is not. Unlocking is tricky, and you have to know what you are going to do once you unlock, or you won't get any phone service. Jailbreaking and unlocking are unrelated to each other, as Sieghard has pointed out. Whether you can jailbreak depends mostly on the iOS version, not on the phone model. If you're running version 6, for example you could probably jailbreak. Teresa Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read.--Groucho Marx On May 28, 2014, at 7:04 AM, Jerry Mader managem...@maderradio.net wrote: IPhone 4S users? Just curious. Lol Jerry Mader Jerry Mader Sent from my PC -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I am aware that it's not the same as unlocking. I am considering getting an iphone. I'm trying to get any and all questions answered first. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you install and it may also make it less secure. Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has nothing at all to do with jailbreaking. Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your plan. Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their monthly plan for the 2 year period. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I want all features of my phone. I am thinking of going with straight talk. - Original Message - From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with? Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I didn't know if that would be allowed on list. by all means if it is let's talk about it on list.Are there companies or services that will do it or is that not necessary? understand I would be coming from android thus the question. sorry in advance for so many questions. - Original Message - From: Broxi72 william.ingli...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: jail breaking a iphone
I agree with Sieghard. I haven't seen anyone discourage the discussion of jail breaking on the list. I went looking for an old message from the owner or the moderator of the list on whether discussing jail breaking is permitted, and I couldn't find anything, but I'm pretty sure they've never tried to squash any discussion on jail breaking. The moderator also used to jail break his phone, but I'm not sure if he's still doing that or not. I think it's perfectly OK to point to Google or podcasts when someone asks a question. I've seen people point to Google, AppleVis or podcasts on numerous subjects, such as using a bluetooth keyboard, different navigation apps and so on. If I see a question go unanswered, and I think I can help by pointing to a podcast or a web page on a topic I'm not personally well versed with then I'll do that, and I don't think there's a problem with that. I think it's more likely that there just aren't a lot of people on the list who jail break anymore. I jail broke my phone when I was running IOS 5, but I haven't jail broken it since then. I didn't want to wait to move up to newer versions of IOS, and one of my most important apps wouldn't run on a jail broken iPhone. On 5/28/2014 8:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Pablo, I don't think people avoid the topic of jailbreaking, but for most people on this list it is of little interest since they don't want to jailbreak. I, for example, may give a bit of general information about jailbreaking and point to a Podcast which goes into more detail because I know basically what Jailbreaking is and how it works, but I don't jailbreak. At the same time, if I see posts about Games on the list I delete them because I own 3 games and hardly ever play them. I think there is nothing wrong at all with providing information or links to Podcasts or articles where a person can get the information they need. In any case, if you are running iOS 7.1.1 you cannot jailbreak and there is a chance that you may never be able to jailbreak 7.1.1. The people who do the jailbreaks may very well focus on iOS 8 to which they will have access to as a Beta version after Apple's WWDC next Monday. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pablo Morales Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Yes, it is that I have been saying. Why off list? It is a topic that should not be tried in the list? Why every time when somebody ask about this topic, the people ask to do it off list. And please, don't respond me that are podcast where they talk about it, because are podcast for the rest of topics that we try here every day, but I don't see that kind of responses. Normally when somebody comes with a question, many people respond the question, no matter is the respond is available on google. The people always, respond. But for the jailbreaking, always the people walk around avoiding the topic. -Original Message- the topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Broxi72 Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 4:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Dennis, why off list, I'm sure others would be Interested as well, Billy - Original Message - From: Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 3:31 AM Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello Seacord, as you are so correct I do have to correct you on one thing. That is regarding contracts and phone carriers. As I just watched from Sprint to ATT, this is the way I did it without paying the penalty fee on my current contract. I went to ATT purchased my phone, contacted Sprint called and the reason why I switched and will be sending my phone back and sending the phone back apparently is supposed to cover the penalty fee on the contract. As my brother has already got his sent back and should be credited this month and mine will post on the account this month coming up and then they will allow me to send mine back. Then the following month munch be credited. Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 8:53 AM, Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca wrote: Hi Dennis, You have all features of your phone, jailbreaking allows you to to more than what Apple allows in some ways, but it may also make your phone more unstabil, more prone to crashing depending on which jailbreak tweeks you install and it may also make it less secure. Keep in mind that Jailbreaking does not allow you to take a locked phone to a different provider, for that you have to unlock your phone which has nothing at all to do with jailbreaking. Which phone do you have and are you still under contract? If you are still in a 2-year contract and even if you get your phone unlocked, you could not leave your current provider unless you continued to pay them for your monthly plan or unless you paid whatever penalty they impose to cancel your plan. Remember that if you bought your phone at a discounted price from a company like ATT, Verizon or a different provider, you did agree that you keep the phone with them for 2 years at whatever plan you chose. They did after all pay for a large portion of your phone and in return you commited to their monthly plan for the 2 year period. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone I want all features of my phone. I am thinking of going with straight talk. - Original Message - From: Joseph Hudson jhud7...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:22 AM Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone Hello Dennis, you don't have to be jailbroken to go to a different company, you just have to have a GSM operating phone. Which most companies are. Verizon and Sprint are the only ones that are not so thought I would just point that out. Just out of curiosity which company are you thinking of going with? Sent from my iPhone On May 28, 2014, at 12:53 AM, Dennis Long dennisl1...@gmail.com wrote: because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives
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Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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what is jail breaking? just curious! -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: jail breaking a iphone
Hi Dave, If you do a Google search for exactly what you asked in your message What is jailbreaking, the first search result is a very nice Wikipedia article which explains it much better than I could. The abstract is this: iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing limitations on iOS, Apple's operating system on devices running it through the use of software and hardware exploits; ... If you have a SIRI capable iOS device, you could even simply ask Search Wikipedia for Jailbreaking and it would come up with the same article ad ask you if you wanted it to be read out. Regards, Sieghardd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone what is jail breaking? just curious! -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https
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thank you. I have heard it mentioned on here before and never understood what it was. I ask Ciri to get it for me. thanks again -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dave, If you do a Google search for exactly what you asked in your message What is jailbreaking, the first search result is a very nice Wikipedia article which explains it much better than I could. The abstract is this: iOS jailbreaking is the process of removing limitations on iOS, Apple's operating system on devices running it through the use of software and hardware exploits; ... If you have a SIRI capable iOS device, you could even simply ask Search Wikipedia for Jailbreaking and it would come up with the same article ad ask you if you wanted it to be read out. Regards, Sieghardd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Mitchel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:37 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: jail breaking a iphone what is jail breaking? just curious! -Original Message- From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 9:34 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group
Re: jail breaking a iphone
because I don't want to be limited by a company. I want as much access to a phone as possible. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 12:34 AM Subject: RE: jail breaking a iphone Hi Dennis, There was a very nice Podcast about how to Jailbreak on Applevis just last week I think or maybe it was within the last 2 weeks. I recommend you go to www.Applevis.com and check it out. Just out of curiocity, what is your reason why you feel the need to jailbreak? Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Long Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 7:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: jail breaking a iphone could someone contact me off list about jail breaking a iphone? dennisl1...@gmail.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Yes. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 6:20 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com wrote: I've heard that if you jail break your phone, you void any warrantees. Is that correct? God bless! Paula and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 How do you go about jail breaking the phone? If I do a factory reset do I lose anything? When the phone comes up again will voiceover be on automatically? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:01, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: just to clarify a point; jailbreaking is legal. It's just not covered by a warranty until you reset the phone to factory defaults or do a clean iOS upgrade. I personally don't feel the need to do it, but it doesn't mean I won't ever do it, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Do you think it's worth it? Again, I'd lob any info about when this voice comes out legally. I don't see why not since it too is a Vocalizer Express voice just like the rest. My friends and I were expecting it to be added to voiceover vac in the fall when iOS 7 was released. Boy were we disappointed! That's the end of my Tirade. Thanks for bearing with me. :) Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:31, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Cydia gets installed, when you jail break the phone, and iFile is $3.99 on Cydia. I did find Carmit, but you can only add this voice by jail breaking. - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 Thanks for your info. If anyone knows when this voice will be added in a legal way I'd be very glad to know. How do I find Cidia? Does it or IFile cost?s Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:15, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simkin , thank you for listening to the podcast. Ifile is an app for the Iphone that allows you to navigate through the Iphone's file system, the app is sold in Cydia, which is a 3rd party app store for IOS. When ever you have to restore your phone to factory settings, you will be asked to disable Find my Iphone, in iCloudd. I will have to check for you to see if the Hebrew voices are available in the vocalizer webpage for NVDA. I will write you back, when I find out about those voices. Take care! - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 Hi, I liked your podcast. I had some questions though. 1. What is ifile and how do I get it? 2. What was that thing at the beginning about turning off Find My iPhone? 3. Can you or anyone else help me install the Hebrew Vocalizer Express voice Carmit? Incidentally, I don't know how to find the files for that voice. Does anyone know how to find them? I would wait for it to actually be added to VoiceOver if only I knew when that would be. Does anyone know when that will be? Thanks for the info, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:40, Victor Hugo Gallegos hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, i recorded a follow up podcast on jail breaking. The link, and info is below. Hugo's back with another jail break episode. He shows us iSounds and iFile. If you've ever wanted to use the new Siri voices for Voice Over, than this is the episode. Take a listen. http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3 Link Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
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Yes, but as long as you restore to factory settings, before going to the apple store, it will be ok. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Paul and Paula Jordan pau...@roadrunner.com wrote: I've heard that if you jail break your phone, you void any warrantees. Is that correct? God bless! Paula and Babe -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2014 12:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 How do you go about jail breaking the phone? If I do a factory reset do I lose anything? When the phone comes up again will voiceover be on automatically? Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 7:01, Teresa Cochran batsfly...@me.com wrote: just to clarify a point; jailbreaking is legal. It's just not covered by a warranty until you reset the phone to factory defaults or do a clean iOS upgrade. I personally don't feel the need to do it, but it doesn't mean I won't ever do it, and it doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Teresa Everything is interesting if you go into it deeply enough.--Richard P. Feynman On Feb 28, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks. Do you think it's worth it? Again, I'd lob any info about when this voice comes out legally. I don't see why not since it too is a Vocalizer Express voice just like the rest. My friends and I were expecting it to be added to voiceover vac in the fall when iOS 7 was released. Boy were we disappointed! That's the end of my Tirade. Thanks for bearing with me. :) Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Mar 1, 2014, at 4:31, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! Cydia gets installed, when you jail break the phone, and iFile is $3.99 on Cydia. I did find Carmit, but you can only add this voice by jail breaking. - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 Thanks for your info. If anyone knows when this voice will be added in a legal way I'd be very glad to know. How do I find Cidia? Does it or IFile cost?s Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:15, Hugo hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Simkin , thank you for listening to the podcast. Ifile is an app for the Iphone that allows you to navigate through the Iphone's file system, the app is sold in Cydia, which is a 3rd party app store for IOS. When ever you have to restore your phone to factory settings, you will be asked to disable Find my Iphone, in iCloudd. I will have to check for you to see if the Hebrew voices are available in the vocalizer webpage for NVDA. I will write you back, when I find out about those voices. Take care! - Original Message - From: Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy hayasim...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Cc: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:22 PM Subject: Re: Iblindtech 58 Hi, I liked your podcast. I had some questions though. 1. What is ifile and how do I get it? 2. What was that thing at the beginning about turning off Find My iPhone? 3. Can you or anyone else help me install the Hebrew Vocalizer Express voice Carmit? Incidentally, I don't know how to find the files for that voice. Does anyone know how to find them? I would wait for it to actually be added to VoiceOver if only I knew when that would be. Does anyone know when that will be? Thanks for the info, Haya Simkin guide dog Pammy Sent from my iPhone On Feb 24, 2014, at 20:40, Victor Hugo Gallegos hugo.galleg...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, i recorded a follow up podcast on jail breaking. The link, and info is below. Hugo's back with another jail break episode. He shows us iSounds and iFile. If you've ever wanted to use the new Siri voices for Voice Over, than this is the episode. Take a listen. http://www.iblindtech.com/storage/iBT-058-JB2-TTS.mp3 Link Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google
RE: Jail breaking latest Ios
hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime. Would you please consider helping me out?. If you are willing to help, please contact me. email. william.ingli...@gmail.com skype. bluey1972 FB. Broxi Bear twitter. Ingy4 Billy9 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios Hi, Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version. Cheers, Ben. On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote: Can u jail break Ios 706? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jail breaking latest Ios
Hi, I don't mind helping out, but I prefer to keep things like this on list so that everyone else benefits. There is a very large amount of information that can be found via Google relating to advantages disadvantages of jailbreaking and the exact steps involved. Cheers, Ben. On 2/25/14, HotScot72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote: hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime. Would you please consider helping me out?. If you are willing to help, please contact me. email. william.ingli...@gmail.com skype. bluey1972 FB. Broxi Bear twitter. Ingy4 Billy9 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios Hi, Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version. Cheers, Ben. On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote: Can u jail break Ios 706? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Jail breaking latest Ios
On 25/02/2014 11:56, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: Hi, I don't mind helping out, but I prefer to keep things like this on list so that everyone else benefits. There is a very large amount of information that can be found via Google relating to advantages disadvantages of jailbreaking and the exact steps involved. Cheers, Ben. On 2/25/14, HotScot72 william.ingli...@gmail.com wrote: hello Ben, hope you don't mind me asking here, but I have just purchased an iPhone4s, and was thinking of jailbreaking it sometime. Would you please consider helping me out?. If you are willing to help, please contact me. email. william.ingli...@gmail.com skype. bluey1972 FB. Broxi Bear twitter. Ingy4 Billy9 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: 25 February 2014 00:58 To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking latest Ios Hi, Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version. Cheers, Ben. On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote: Can u jail break Ios 706? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. HI Ben, you are quite correct, but I always try get to talk with visually impaired folks, Billy -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Can you upgrade to this IOS version without having to unjail break your phone first? I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi, No, as per usual, you'll have to do a restore which will most likely fail, then try it again rejailbreak once you're up and running on 7.06. Cheers, Ben. On 2/25/14, Blind Treasures blindtreasu...@comcast.net wrote: Can you upgrade to this IOS version without having to unjail break your phone first? I'd rather be infected with love for the tiniest sliver of a second than live a hundred years smothered by a lie.--Lena Haloway Blind Treasures sa...@blindtreasures.com PH: 804-726-8900 Web: www.blindtreasures.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
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Hi, Yes; same tool as for every other iOS 7 version. Cheers, Ben. On 2/24/14, Eric Whitten whitten.e...@gmail.com wrote: Can u jail break Ios 706? Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. Post a new message to VIPhone by emailing viphone@googlegroups.com. Search and view the VIPhone archives by visiting http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. Reach the VIPhone owner and moderators by emailing viphone+ow...@googlegroups.com. Unsubscribe and leave VIPhone by emailing viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. More VIPhone group options can be found by visiting http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
RE: Jail breaking -- What is repository?
Just starting to get into your Jailbreaking podcast. Can you explain more about repository? I'm not familiar with that term or concept. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blinkin Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking -- What is repository?
In a butshell a repository is a website where the different apps and tweaks are stored. When you add a repository to cydia you are giving it permission to access those apps and download them. There are somewhere around 5 that are pre installed when you jailbreak and these are the only ones that have truely been vouched for and tested for security. It is possible to add a repository with harmful content in it so make sure you are comfortable with anything you add. i hope this helps make sense of it. have a good day! Mike On Jul 7, 2012, at 12:18 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Just starting to get into your Jailbreaking podcast. Can you explain more about repository? I'm not familiar with that term or concept. Thanks. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Blinkin Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 5:45 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email
Re: Jail breaking
I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for Sent from my iPod On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help. I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information offered will be much more accurate. My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version. An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and from memory a fixed version was released the next day. Cheers, Ben. On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various tutorials I have read. Kelly On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has
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Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia that they are not going to. Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh. I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't even run it because the package doesn't work. I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes now for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in downcast or whatever else you use to find it. have a great day! Mike M On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote: I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for Sent from my iPod On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help. I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information offered will be much more accurate. My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version. An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and from memory a fixed version was released the next day. Cheers, Ben. On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various tutorials I have read. Kelly On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than
Re: Jail breaking
Hi, With all due respect to your friends, they should have read about Spire before they paid for access to a Siri proxy. The author releases the product for free; third parties charge for access. And probably steel your information at the same time. Cheers, Ben. On 7/6/12, Blinkin m...@howtobeblind.com wrote: Be careful with these only because one of the main packages that run these called Spire I think has not updated to work with IOS 5 and it says in Lydia that they are not going to. Just make sure to check everything out before you buy anything huh. I have had some friends buy the key for sir only to find out that they can't even run it because the package doesn't work. I sent the Podcast link out last night and it should be up on iTunes now for those of you who want to download it. Just search How to be Blind in downcast or whatever else you use to find it. have a great day! Mike M On Jul 6, 2012, at 3:28 AM, Ben Blatchford wrote: I am using Siri on my iPod touch. This tweet of medical from Cydia is called Siri court and what it and I think you is it allows you to use Siri on your non-iPhone 4S devices this technique is awesome. I need you to type this message TDF the iPhone and longest right now ch for Sent from my iPod On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:35 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose b...@benmr.com wrote: Hi, That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help. I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information offered will be much more accurate. My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version. An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and from memory a fixed version was released the next day. Cheers, Ben. On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various tutorials I have read. Kelly On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks
Re: Jail breaking
Thanks, am looking forward to this. May consider jailbreaking in the future since I am an amateur techy and just interested in what all the fuss is about. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 7:42 PM Subject: Re: Jail breaking I am currently working on a podcast all about jail breaking that hopefully will be finished tonight. I will cover a lot of material and tweaks including Activator . I will send a link out here when it is complete. Mike M On Jul 4, 2012, at 5:31 PM, Mike Maslo wrote: Hi list Was wondering if there is anyone out there who can give me step-by-step instructions on how to using sb settings or activation Any help would be greatly appreciated Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Correct, jailbreak apps can only be loaded onto a jailbroken iPHone or iPod. -- Raul A. Gallegos How do you write zero in Roman numerals? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote: However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you
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Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necesssary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexability. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Voice Over is not affected by jailbreaking your phone. I think your friend is misinformed. It's true that some jailbreak tweaks or apps might not work with Voice Over, but the same is true for Apple approved app store apps. Good luck. -- Raul A. Gallegos A hospital bed is a parked taxi with the meter running. - Groucho Marx Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 6:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necesssary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexability. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: Jail breaking
I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various tutorials I have read. Kelly On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search
Re: Jail breaking
Hi, That is correct, although there is currently no unofficial unlock for the 4S, so jailbreaking won't help. I'll also echo what Raul has already said about your friend; there simply is no way that he is talking from experience because that just doesn't happen. In contrast, everyone? contributing in this topic has at some point jailbroken their device, so in theory, the information offered will be much more accurate. My accessibility experiences concerning jailbreaking have infact all been positive. Up until around 1.5 years ago, Cydia, the jailbroken app store was completely inaccessible. A couple of us emailed the developer and it was made completely accessible in the next version. An app that some of us use called voice activator used to crash when vo was turned on. Once I found this out, I emailed the developer and from memory a fixed version was released the next day. Cheers, Ben. On 7/6/12, Kelly Pierce kellyt...@gmail.com wrote: I believe if I were to purchase a used iPhone 4s that someone had used on ATT, I would need to jailbreak it to unlock it, from the various tutorials I have read. Kelly On 7/5/12, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, You don't have to jailbreak first - apple do sell an unlocked iPhone for about 800 dollars. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 4:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Do you not have to jailbreak to unlock the phone though? I'd always assumed that in order to unlock the phone, it first must be jailbroken. Take care. On 7/5/2012 6:17 PM, Raul A. Gallegos wrote: They are very different. Unlocking means your phone is made to work with any provider. So, if you have an ATT phone and you unlock it, you can use it with another gsm provider like T-mobile. Jailbreaking means you gain access to the root of the phone and can do many nice tweaks and add other types of apps. Jailbreaking and unlocking are not synonymous. -- Raul A. Gallegos Never have more children than you have car windows. - Erma Bombeck Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/5/2012 7:09 PM, Jessica Brown wrote: What is the difference between unlocking and jail breaking? I thought that they were 2 separate things. - Original Message - From: Blinkin blinkin4...@gmail.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Thu, 5 Jul 2012 17:45:28 -0500 Subject: Re: Jail breaking I will cover this also in my podcast. I have had one or two extra bugs while using voice over on my jailbroken iPhone 4 but nothing has ever moved and the bugs are certainly easy to live with. The two biggest I deal with occasionally are folders closing a split second after I open them and I just have to re tap the screen and occasionally when I press the sleep button my phone will take a screen shot instead of locking. to fix this I just tap the home button twice then hit the sleep button and it goes right to sleep. these are the only issues I have ever had with voice over. Everything has worked just fine for me but I have not unlocked my phone. Only jailbroken it. If I am lucky I will have one of these bugs happen tonight when I finish recording. cheers! Mike M On Jul 5, 2012, at 5:04 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necessary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexibility. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence
RE: Jail breaking
Hi Kelly, I've found 1 JB app that has issues with scrolling but I've also seen a few apps from the Appstore with bad accessibility implementation. So the short answer is, no problem with VO, Cydia etc. I find the JB community pretty VO-aware. You either ran into someone who is a bit of a nervous nelly or who is misinformed or who has overreacted to one bad experience or perhaps there was a hardware problem. App conflicts can happen, some sighted folks have had a recent conflict between Anavo Extend and some other apps, can't remember the particular situation right off. So Jailbreak away, and restore if you don't see any benefits. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 3:05 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Greetings from Chicago. I have never owned a cell phone before and really learned the benefit of one when I was in a suburb and asked folks for directions a few times. no one could answer my questions directly. they all turned to their smart phones! I realized I could have the same thing in my hand that was fully accessible. I learned about the Straight Talk service and discovered that iPhone service is now more affordable than high speed Internet access was when I first subscribed more than 10 years ago. to use Straight Talk or most of the other prepaid services, it is necesssary to unlock the phone. Unlocking usually requires jail breaking, I understand. Even if it doesn't I would eventually jailbreak anyway for the added flexability. A friend told me that unlocked and jail broken phones are unstable with Voice Over. He said the places where one gestures or taps to initiate actions can move or change. These shifting locations he said can make it difficult for a blind person to use an unlocked phone. For this reason, he urges blind people to use contract service only. has anyone else experienced this with unlocked or jailbroken phones? Is voice Over less responsive and precise in unlocked or jail broken configurations than an out of the box phone from a contract provider? I appreciate all the contributions people have made in the few days I have been on the list. I have learned so much already. I can't wait to get started on this adventure in independence. Kelly -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Hi, you can get your apps you paid for back even if you restore from ajjailbreak. Most apps paid via Cydia are done through paypal or Amazon payments. Both easy to set up. Apps like PWN Tunes can also be paid for via cydia, but you can pay them directly if you wish. However when you pay them directly, I think it costs more. Then there are other places which do their own charging. For example PDA Net and Google Voice Phone Extension. They accept Paypal, but you do it through their own site. In the case of PDA Net, I received an unlock code which I put into the program and it works. Hope that helps. -- Raul A. Gallegos Every morning, I get up and look through the 'Forbes' list of the richest people in America. If I'm not there, I go to work. - Robert Orben Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/3/2012 10:05 PM, jeremy wrote: I'm wondering the same thing. If you were to purchase an app, pwtunes being one that I'm seriously considering, can you reuse your license information once you've updated or restored and went through the jailbreaking process again? Also, what are the different methods for paying for apps through cydia? PwTunes's page was clear enough on price, if not how to actually pay for it, but PDANet wasn't so obvious. Thanks. Take care. On 7/3/2012 8:09 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi, It'll depend on kinds of data that iTunes backs up from iDevice. If it copies application directories that is also used by jailbreak apps, then there is a potential for them to show up (at least in the file system) on a non jailbroken device; but here's the catch: even if the jailbreak apps do find their way into new devices (non jailbroken), there's no way to find and run them, as the operating system blocks these thanks to what's called privileges - under Unix (for which iOS/Mac OS X family is based on), you cannot run an app that requires higher user level unless you allow it yourself or through some exploits (essentially, a jailbreak package takes advantage of security holes or bugs to exploit what's usually termed privilege escalation) to modify the behavior of the OS, thereby allowing jailbreak apps to run (it is like using a Windows PC as an admin with User Account Control turned off)). So, although jailbreak can be fun, it also has security issues if not handled properly. As for upgrading, think of it like this: suppose you're upgrading a car engine, and you wish to make sure that the engine you are working with is the kind that the maker approves. One day, a friend of yours decided to test an engine enhancer, and as a result, modified the engine behavior a bit. Then you decide the upgrade the modified engine to the newer one, but found that the engine was not behaving as you expected. Moreover, the upgrade kit would not work on the current engine due to some deeper modifications your friend has made. So you ask your friend to undo his modification so you can upgrade the engine after. Similar thing can be said about operating systems: the OS maker expects certain behavior, but the target guy is acting odd, so the OS maker asks the user to restore the original functionality before upgrading the OS. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of James Mannion Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 12:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: Jail breaking
Correct, jailbreak apps can only be loaded onto a jailbroken iPHone or iPod. -- Raul A. Gallegos How do you write zero in Roman numerals? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote: However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Just do a reset and you will be unjailbroken. -- Raul A. Gallegos A man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. - Mark Twain Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/3/2012 8:17 PM, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Hi list Was wondering if there is anyone out there who can give me step-by-step instructions on how to using sb settings or activation Any help would be greatly appreciated Sent from my iPhone On Jul 4, 2012, at 2:53 PM, Raul A. Gallegos r...@raulgallegos.com wrote: Correct, jailbreak apps can only be loaded onto a jailbroken iPHone or iPod. -- Raul A. Gallegos How do you write zero in Roman numerals? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 7/4/2012 3:11 PM, James Mannion wrote: However, unless I am incorrect, what is not being made clear here is there would be no way to load the jailbreak apps, even the versions you have, on a device that has not been jailbroken. You would not only have the restriction of not being able to upgrade them, but I do not think you could load them on a new device not yet jailbroken, right? You are not going to find your jailbroken apps in ITunes, right? On 7/4/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Scott, You got it. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2012 3:14 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking John, What if you elect to upgrade your phone and subsequently not jailbreak the device? I assume you can reload those apps acquired from Cydia? I assume you cannot upgrade those apps since you would not have access to the Cydia app store unless you jailbreak again? On Jul 3, 2012, at 10:36 PM, Jon Pierson wrote: Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone
Re: Jail breaking
I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi Thomas, Yes you sure can, I've had to do that before updating to a newer version of IOS. But once your JB apps are backed up the whole process (including the iCloud restore) takes about 45 minutes. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of thomas williams Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Jail breaking Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi Scott, A few ways to backup up Cydia have been mentioned here, but the answer is that you don't lose your apps or pay for them again. You simply login to cydia, grab your backup program and restore everything or use the backup file created for you in some cases. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Scott Howell Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 6:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail breaking
Cydia lets you use paypal or Amazon. There may be another like google or something. I have not looked into Amazon's payment service much yet. I think they have one similar to paypal and I assume that is what Cydia is referring to with that. On 7/3/12, Jon Pierson joncpier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Thomas, Yes you sure can, I've had to do that before updating to a newer version of IOS. But once your JB apps are backed up the whole process (including the iCloud restore) takes about 45 minutes. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of thomas williams Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Jail breaking Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail breaking
Hi jeremy, Usually folks link their Facebook accounts or Google accounts to Cydia for verification purposes only. Everything I've purchased so far has been through Paypal. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of jeremy Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2012 7:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail breaking I'm wondering the same thing. If you were to purchase an app, pwtunes being one that I'm seriously considering, can you reuse your license information once you've updated or restored and went through the jailbreaking process again? Also, what are the different methods for paying for apps through cydia? PwTunes's page was clear enough on price, if not how to actually pay for it, but PDANet wasn't so obvious. Thanks. Take care. On 7/3/2012 8:09 PM, Scott Howell wrote: Although once you jailbreak your device you cannot upgrade to the latest version of the OS until someone comes out with a jailbreak for that version. I'm also curious if you loose your apps you purchased or obtained from the non-Apple sources. On Jul 3, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Christopher Chaltain wrote: I haven't done it myself, but you should be able to wipe your phone and reinstall IOS on it, so it'll never appear that it was ever unbroken. On 03/07/12 19:17, thomas williams wrote: Once you jail-break can you also unjail break? -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
Hi, To explain jailbreaking, I think we need to visit operating system security and user levels. But first: Yes - jailbreaking and unlocking are two different things. Jailbreaking means using some OS exploit to run programs using a different user's privilege, whereas unlocking means allowing a device to be used on any carrier (as many phones are locked to specific carriers). Now onto the subject at hand: There are at least two user modes under Unix (which is the basis for iOS and Mac OS X and other OS's such as Linux): root and normal user. The root is the user which has total control ovth files and programs on Unix, such as program installation, file system modification and so on. Many Unix systems run in normal user mode for most of the time - and iOS follows this. Under iOS, there are two users defined (although it may not appear to be so): root and mobile. Root is the admin account while mobile is the regular user mode of the iOS. What dailbreak does is it changes the running mode of the iDevice to that of root mode where the device user has total control over files and programs on an iDevice. This allows installation of apps not authorized by Apple and to perform other things such as modifying how the device works by using tweaks and changing files. But you may ask, how can I access my iDevice from my computer? This is where SSH (Secure Shell) comes in. This is a terminal environment where a computer can access another computer over it network. A good example is remote website administration from a home computer. In order for this to work, the target device must be told to accept incoming SSH connections (in this case, by jailbreaking it and installing OpenSSH). From the local computer (the one which will be accessing the iDevice), the user needs to know the IP address of the iDevice, its root userdayn and password (by %default, it is root for user^n and allpine for password; it is recommended to change the password). Because we're using root user mode, be careful about what you do with file system in iDevice - one wrfg change and it requires restore via iTunes, which installs regular firmware instead of jailbroken firmware. Finally, let us investigate how jailbreaking is even possible. Operating systems, like any programs, contains well-known bugs and opportunities for programmers to mess around with it (at least through bugs and programs). For example, there was a bug fix release by Apple last year because some PDCF documents made the device unstable, which was used by jailbreak programmers (this is callbed exploit, that of using a bug to mess around in an OS). So in order for jailbreak to work, programmers need four things: the exploitable bug itself in a device firmware, a modified firmware that allows root control of a device, a way of transfering this new firmware and making it permanent (called untethered jailbreak). First, the programmers find out the exploit in a firmware, prepares a new (modified or unlocked) firmware that be^akes advantage of the exploit and makes it availible to others. Then the jailbreak package connects to the iDevice (mostly via iTunes connection) and embbeds the newly modified firmware to the device's memory. Then it does some modifications to make this patch permanent unless restoration via iTunes occurs, at which point the jailbreak will be undone by flashing the official firmware from Apple. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:57:52 -0400 Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean? Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
Jailbreaking is not illegal however it will void any Apple warranties you have. But it is certainly not illegal. SSH I think allows you to securely connect to a remote machine. Christopher Hallsworth On 11/06/2012 07:57, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
RE: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
Hi Arnold, You can always restore your phone through settings if you need to take it in to Apple. Jon -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Arnold Schmidt Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2012 11:58 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean? Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
H, to answer the other question, jailbreaking and unlocking are not the same. Jailbreaking is getting out of the sandbox experience and allowing you to add tweaks or other apps which Apple normally doesn't allow. It enables you to do cool things with your phone which you can't normally do. Unlocking makes your phone usable with other carriers like T-mobile. You can jailbreak without unlocking and you can unlock without jailbreaking. Or, you can do both. -- Raul A. Gallegos Materialism: buying things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people that we don't like. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/11/2012 2:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
I would like to have some tips on unlocking a iphone 3g. The unit is presently locked to att. Thanks much. larry -Original Message- From: Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Monday, June 11, 2012 1:36 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean? H, to answer the other question, jailbreaking and unlocking are not the same. Jailbreaking is getting out of the sandbox experience and allowing you to add tweaks or other apps which Apple normally doesn't allow. It enables you to do cool things with your phone which you can't normally do. Unlocking makes your phone usable with other carriers like T-mobile. You can jailbreak without unlocking and you can unlock without jailbreaking. Or, you can do both. -- Raul A. Gallegos Materialism: buying things we don't need with money we don't have to impress people that we don't like. Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/11/2012 2:57 AM, Arnold Schmidt wrote: Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
...And if I was a total non-techy, the below message would have made me run away screaming, and never want to jailbreak. grin. Seriously Joseph, sometimes you have to keep it simple, sort of like on the Braille Sense list. In short, non-techy terms, jailbreaking allows you to add tweaks or features or abilities to the iPhone which normally can't be done. -- Raul A. Gallegos Why do we press harder on a remote control when we know the batteries are almost dead? Home Page: http://raulgallegos.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/rau47 Facebook: http://facebook.com/rgallegos74 On 6/11/2012 3:32 AM, Joseph Lee wrote: Hi, To explain jailbreaking, I think we need to visit operating system security and user levels. But first: Yes - jailbreaking and unlocking are two different things. Jailbreaking means using some OS exploit to run programs using a different user's privilege, whereas unlocking means allowing a device to be used on any carrier (as many phones are locked to specific carriers). Now onto the subject at hand: There are at least two user modes under Unix (which is the basis for iOS and Mac OS X and other OS's such as Linux): root and normal user. The root is the user which has total control ovth files and programs on Unix, such as program installation, file system modification and so on. Many Unix systems run in normal user mode for most of the time - and iOS follows this. Under iOS, there are two users defined (although it may not appear to be so): root and mobile. Root is the admin account while mobile is the regular user mode of the iOS. What dailbreak does is it changes the running mode of the iDevice to that of root mode where the device user has total control over files and programs on an iDevice. This allows installation of apps not authorized by Apple and to perform other things such as modifying how the device works by using tweaks and changing files. But you may ask, how can I access my iDevice from my computer? This is where SSH (Secure Shell) comes in. This is a terminal environment where a computer can access another computer over it network. A good example is remote website administration from a home computer. In order for this to work, the target device must be told to accept incoming SSH connections (in this case, by jailbreaking it and installing OpenSSH). From the local computer (the one which will be accessing the iDevice), the user needs to know the IP address of the iDevice, its root userdayn and password (by %default, it is root for user^n and allpine for password; it is recommended to change the password). Because we're using root user mode, be careful about what you do with file system in iDevice - one wrfg change and it requires restore via iTunes, which installs regular firmware instead of jailbroken firmware. Finally, let us investigate how jailbreaking is even possible. Operating systems, like any programs, contains well-known bugs and opportunities for programmers to mess around with it (at least through bugs and programs). For example, there was a bug fix release by Apple last year because some PDCF documents made the device unstable, which was used by jailbreak programmers (this is callbed exploit, that of using a bug to mess around in an OS). So in order for jailbreak to work, programmers need four things: the exploitable bug itself in a device firmware, a modified firmware that allows root control of a device, a way of transfering this new firmware and making it permanent (called untethered jailbreak). First, the programmers find out the exploit in a firmware, prepares a new (modified or unlocked) firmware that be^akes advantage of the exploit and makes it availible to others. Then the jailbreak package connects to the iDevice (mostly via iTunes connection) and embbeds the newly modified firmware to the device's memory. Then it does some modifications to make this patch permanent unless restoration via iTunes occurs, at which point the jailbreak will be undone by flashing the official firmware from Apple. Hope this helps. Cheers, Joseph - Original Message - From: Arnold Schmidt arno...@mindspring.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2012 02:57:52 -0400 Subject: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean? Being new, I ask: I think jail breaking a phone means that one can install apps onto it that are not approved by apple. What is ssh? Most importantly, will this void my warranty, or will apple deny me updates because they think I have an illegal phone? I do not think one can get updates for an unlocked phone, I may not be correct about that. And I assume that jail breaking and unlocking are not the same. Thanks for clarification. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group,
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
I would like to say thanks, Joseph, for writing your explanation of jail breaking, even though I really didn't understand much of it. The fault is mine, not yours. What I did gather is that when I get an IPhone, I will leave the doing of such things to others, and just take what Apple allows me to install. This is one area where I think the android phones are way ahead of the IPhones, in that it is open source, and encourages innovation. Even though I am leaning toward an IPhone at this time, I do believe that, within a little while, android is going to give the IPhone a really serious run for its money, as it were, because they do encourage innovation. Even if I had an android phone, I would leave this experimentation for others to do. And somebody wrote in another message that yes, jail breaking my phone would void my warranty. Oh well. Arnold Schmidt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: Jail Breaking, What Does This Mean?
It's true Android is more open than IOS by nature, but you still have to root your Android phone, which is analogous to jail breaking your IOS device, to get root privileges. Also, although the openness of Android allows for more innovation and creativity, it also permits more fragmentation. I think individual carriers and even the Android ecosystem as a while will begin to address this though. On 11/06/12 15:58, Arnold Schmidt wrote: I would like to say thanks, Joseph, for writing your explanation of jail breaking, even though I really didn't understand much of it. The fault is mine, not yours. What I did gather is that when I get an IPhone, I will leave the doing of such things to others, and just take what Apple allows me to install. This is one area where I think the android phones are way ahead of the IPhones, in that it is open source, and encourages innovation. Even though I am leaning toward an IPhone at this time, I do believe that, within a little while, android is going to give the IPhone a really serious run for its money, as it were, because they do encourage innovation. Even if I had an android phone, I would leave this experimentation for others to do. And somebody wrote in another message that yes, jail breaking my phone would void my warranty. Oh well. Arnold Schmidt -- Christopher (CJ) chaltain at Gmail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
Re: jail breaking apple tv
No. Plus depending on what version of iOs its running it might not be jailbreakable and if it is it may be tethered. Cheers, Ben. On 5/11/12, Larry McCreary lrmccre...@earthlink.net wrote: I am considering jail breaking my apple tv. If I do will I get amazon, will I get the use of roqu and play on players? I would really like amazon prime. Thanks for your advice. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the VIPhone Google Group. To search the VIPhone public archive, visit http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en.
