RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the r
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched a
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com<http://iCloud.com> website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't > doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there > which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a > feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that > companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do > whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. > The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is > implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is > more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Denise, > > If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you > contact Freedom Scientific on this one. > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Lumpkin > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > denise avant > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hello everyone, > I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is > possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone > 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am > also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to > navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send
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I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com<http://iCloud.com> website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<ma
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
No problem, doing the usual phone/iOS maintenance stuff like updating/restoring via iTunes or doing regular or encrypted backups is no problem. The thing I miss the most is easy management of tones in iTunes. I used to be able to simply arrow down my list of tones and press the spacebar to check or uncheck the ones I wanted and then sync, the same was true for apps at one point. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was s
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hello Denise, You ask an excellent question and you have received some very good advice. I would like to offer another suggestion that you may find useful. If you use Microsoft Outlook on your new computer, you may wish to install the iCloud Control Panel. This simple tool is completely accessible with screen readers and will allow you to sync/access your iCloud data such as Contacts, Appointments, Notes, etc via Outlook. This is the primary way I keep all of my iCloud data in sync across all of my Windows, Macs, and iOS/Android devices. Installing the iCloud control panel is easy and Apple keeps it up-to-date for all necessary versions of Windows including Windows 7.x and 8.x.. Another quick and easy way to access your iCloud data on your PC is to use iCloud.com. Depending upon your screen/reader of choice, your mileage may vary but I think it definitely worth a try to access iCloud via your web browser and see what happens. Explore all the options and discover what is right for you. As a Windows user, I value the fact that Apple continues to maintain a definite bridge between iCloud on both Windows and Mac. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi all I also have an issue with the latest iTunes on windows. Whenever I arrow down in list view JAWS stops reading out the items. Debbie From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2016 5:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a
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Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will respond. But It’s ok. > On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: > > Sieghard, > > I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! > Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. > That is it! > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't > doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there > which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a > feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that > companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do > whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. > The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is > implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is > more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Denise, > > If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you > contact Freedom Scientific on this one. > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Lumpkin > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > denise avant > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hello everyone, > I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is > possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone > 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am > also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to > navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email t
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Hi, I agree with sieghard on missing these features and have been dialoging with two Apple Accessibility personnel in an effort to keep the report of its broken status up to date in hopes of Apple restoring such functionality to all screen readers. Here’s hoping (smile). Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows No problem, doing the usual phone/iOS maintenance stuff like updating/restoring via iTunes or doing regular or encrypted backups is no problem. The thing I miss the most is easy management of tones in iTunes. I used to be able to simply arrow down my list of tones and press the spacebar to check or uncheck the ones I wanted and then sync, the same was true for apps at one point. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday,
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
I had to get a new computer and my internet favorites did come down from my iPhone to the new computer but my contacts have not. Is there a way using the iPhone or iTunes for me to get those contacts back to the computer? I agree that since 12.0 of iTunes the accessibility has been more difficult! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't > doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there > which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a > feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that > companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do > whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. > The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is > implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is > more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Todd Patkus > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > windows > > Denise, > > If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you > contact Freedom Scientific on this one. > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > windows > > I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of denise avant > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hello everyone, > I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it > is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from > my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest > version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of > the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara > Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly
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Mark, Are you using speech only? Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 20, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Rose Combs mailto:roseco...@q.com>> wrote: I had to get a new computer and my internet favorites did come down from my iPhone to the new computer but my contacts have not. Is there a way using the iPhone or iTunes for me to get those contacts back to the computer? I agree that since 12.0 of iTunes the accessibility has been more difficult! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com<http://iCloud.com> website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For
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I’m using the current version of itunes with window Eyes and it’s very hard to use itunes file sharing. I wished Apple had the same interface they had back in itunes 11. From: Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:47 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn
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I would send an email to or call apple accessibility to let them know your concerns. I would also email VFO and tell them the issues you have with Win Eyes and JFW. Hope Paulos > On Nov 20, 2016, at 9:46 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: > > I’m using the current version of itunes with window Eyes and it’s very hard > to use itunes file sharing. I wished Apple had the same interface they had > back in itunes 11. > > From: Victor Gouveia > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:47 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, > and I have no problems with it. > > What exactly are you having problems with. > > Victor > > From: Richard Turner > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Todd, > I too will no longer try to help you. > You are too rude for words. > Richard > > > > “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." > - Satsuki Shibuya > > > (Sent from my iPod 6) > >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> Hi Todd, >> >> Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting >> on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the >> topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a >> Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. >> >> And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to >> anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. >> Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational >> tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional >> challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell >> at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of >> saying "that is it". >> >> Take care, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Sieghard, >> >> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! >> Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact >> them. That is it! >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't >> doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there >> which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a >> feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that >> companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do >> whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is >> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Denise, >> >> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you >> contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Larry Lumpkin >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> I don't think the interface is very good wi
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Hi Debbie, I did find that the column browser list views in the latest version of iTunes with Jaws will read if you refresh the screen with Jawsk Key+Escape. You may have to do this from time to time, but this is a work-around which at least I find allows me to use the column browser and to select a genre, artist or album. The song list which for me has over 4,000 songs for some reason seems to always read fine. The library app section also works OK in this release, you can arrow left and right and up and down to see the apps, either check “Updates” to see only apps that have updates or all apps, but again with the occasional screen refresh it works and you can tab to the Update button for a specific app, read the Whats New section or tab to Update aAll. Once updates are in progress whether they are app updates or an iOS download you can go to the search edit box with Control+F and tab I think twice to come to the Activity Popover or whatever it’s called. Activate it with the spacebar or enter, tab once and then down arrow to see the download progress, again Jaws Key +Escape (screen refresh) is your friend here. The library’s tone section reads fine for me, I can easily arrow down through all my tones and play them. Movies and TV Shows in the library is also OK and I don’t use books, audio books or Podcasts with iTunes so can’t comment on those. Objectively it’s not all that bad if they would somehow restore the ability to easily select apps, tones and music by artist, album or individual song t sync and if they fixed the iTunes file transfer section. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Debbie April Yuille Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 4:47 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi all I also have an issue with the latest iTunes on windows. Whenever I arrow down in list view JAWS stops reading out the items. Debbie From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Sunday, 20 November 2016 5:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subjec
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Hello Richard, On my PC Notebooks, I use the latest version of Jaws, only. However, on my Desktop PCs, I use both Jaws ans Zoomtext. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:18 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Mark, Are you using speech only? Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 20, 2016, at 6:07 AM, Rose Combs wrote: I had to get a new computer and my internet favorites did come down from my iPhone to the new computer but my contacts have not. Is there a way using the iPhone or iTunes for me to get those contacts back to the computer? I agree that since 12.0 of iTunes the accessibility has been more difficult! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:11 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If
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Syncing tones works the same as syncing music. the real problem with syncingg tones is that iTunes also wants to update your music and this was happening six years ago. I do agree that I would truely prefer if they treated apps like they did during the early days of itunes 11. - Original Message - From: Sieghard Weitzel To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunately I think you will find that your agressive and confrontational tone will result in many others doing the same. I know you have additional challenges beyond being blind, but that doesn't give you the right to yell at anything anybody says which you don't like. Now as you are so font of saying "that is it". Take care, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty
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I wonder what would it hurt for them to give screen reader users the functionality of iTunes 11 and make it specifically for accessibility purposes. - Original Message - From: Robin Frost To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:05 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi, I agree with sieghard on missing these features and have been dialoging with two Apple Accessibility personnel in an effort to keep the report of its broken status up to date in hopes of Apple restoring such functionality to all screen readers. Here’s hoping (smile). Robin From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows No problem, doing the usual phone/iOS maintenance stuff like updating/restoring via iTunes or doing regular or encrypted backups is no problem. The thing I miss the most is easy management of tones in iTunes. I used to be able to simply arrow down my list of tones and press the spacebar to check or uncheck the ones I wanted and then sync, the same was true for apps at one point. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:15 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Sieghard, You may be right about that. I have mine set to sync my entire playlist, and in terms of apps, I delete them manually off the phone. I stand corrected and apologize for my misstatement. Smiles. Victor From: Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 12:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Victor, Connect your phone, then go to your device and either to music, apps or tones, check to sync selected items (in music or tones) and then try to select artists or albums or tones or, in the case of apps, try to select apps to sync. None of this works any more. Furthermore, I like to set my view to Songs and then turn on the column browser so I can select a particular genre, artist or album. Jaws does not read anything in All three of these lists (genre, artist and album). OK, let’s say on my new laptop it doesn’t, on my old one it seemed to sometimes work, but it would always say “L1” or something like that along with whatever it read. In a way I don’t care too much about it any more since now that I have Apple Music I typically don’t sync my entire music library to my phone any more, apps I can download from the App Store and in a pinch I can manage my tones manually. I can still select to sync all tones easily enough so my work-around is to have one folder with all my ringtones and this folder I don’t add to my iTunes library. I then have another folder and all tones in this folder I add to my library and thn I simply sync all tones. If I want to get rid of some I just go to the tones library in iTunes and delete the ones I no longer want and then resync. If I want to add tones I copy them into this folder, add it to the library again and then rsync. If you can select tones and apps with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes you are the only one I know of who can do it and you really should do a Podcast and show all of us how it can be done. Take care, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Victor Gouveia Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I am using the latest version of Jaws, version 18, with the latest iTunes, and I have no problems with it. What exactly are you having problems with. Victor From: Richard Turner Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 10:07 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, I too will no longer try to help you. You are too rude for words. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPod 6) On Nov 19, 2016, at 7:02 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Todd, Why do you always feel insulted by everything people say. I am not getting on top of you and just as you I say whatever I want if it is relevant to the topic. I simply pointed out that the inaccessibility of iTunes is not only a Freedom Scientific problem and that they are not to blame alone. And now I will say one more thing. From now on I will no longer reply to anything you post, I will not attempt to answer any questions you ask. Unfortunat
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there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visi
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Larry, You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. Rip it off. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Smith Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will respond. But It’s ok. > On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: > > Sieghard, > > I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! > Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. > That is it! > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't > doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there > which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a > feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that > companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do > whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. > The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is > implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is > more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Denise, > > If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you > contact Freedom Scientific on this one. > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Lumpkin > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > denise avant > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hello everyone, > I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is > possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone > 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am > also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to > navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - > you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Smiles, Todd, have a great day! > On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: > > Larry, > > You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. > That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. Rip > it off. > > Todd > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Larry Smith > Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM > To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as > though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will > respond. But It’s ok. >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: >> >> Sieghard, >> >> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! >> Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact >> them. That is it! >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't >> doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there >> which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a >> feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that >> companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do >> whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is >> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Denise, >> >> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you >> contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Larry Lumpkin >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of denise avant >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Hello everyone, >> I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is >> possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone >> 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I >> am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to >> navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or >> moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - >> you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "VIPhone" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at h
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both if you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is: accessibil...@apple.com The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is correct. Take care, and have a great day! Hope Paulos > On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith wrote: > > Smiles, Todd, have a great day! >> On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: >> >> Larry, >> >> You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. >> That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. Rip >> it off. >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Larry Smith >> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM >> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone >> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as >> though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will >> respond. But It’s ok. >>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: >>> >>> Sieghard, >>> >>> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of >>> me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her >>> contact them. That is it! >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Sieghard Weitzel >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >>> >>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't >>> doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there >>> which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a >>> feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that >>> companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do >>> whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. >>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is >>> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Todd Patkus >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >>> >>> Denise, >>> >>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you >>> contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of Larry Lumpkin >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >>> >>> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >>> Of denise avant >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is >>> possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my >>> iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of >>> itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in >>> iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V i
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone mentioned the BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I used these scripts with a fair degree of success when I did use the program. I've since changed computers and simply haven't gotten around to putting iTunes on it, no need. On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both if you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is: accessibil...@apple.com The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is correct. Take care, and have a great day! Hope Paulos On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Smiles, Todd, have a great day! On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: Larry, You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. Rip it off. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Smith Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will respond. But It’s ok. On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
It would be interesting to know if the BlindTunes scripts make selecting apps and tones for syncing possible. I use Leasey Advanced and there are a few things in Leasey which help a bit with iTunes, but nothing that goes that deep. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone mentioned the BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I used these scripts with a fair degree of success when I did use the program. I've since changed computers and simply haven't gotten around to putting iTunes on it, no need. On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: > Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard > regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both > companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both if > you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: > suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is: > accessibil...@apple.com > The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is > correct. > Take care, and have a great day! > > Hope Paulos > >> On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith wrote: >> >> Smiles, Todd, have a great day! >>> On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: >>> >>> Larry, >>> >>> You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. >>> That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. >>> Rip it off. >>> >>> Todd >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Larry Smith >>> Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM >>> To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone >>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >>> windows >>> >>> Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as >>> though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will >>> respond. But It’s ok. >>>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: >>>> >>>> Sieghard, >>>> >>>> I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of >>>> me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her >>>> contact them. That is it! >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >>>> windows >>>> >>>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA >>>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out >>>> there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I >>>> have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so >>>> that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in >>>> turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. >>>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >>>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is >>>> more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus >>>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >>>> windows >>>> >>>> Denise, >>>> >>>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you >>>> contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >>>> >>>> Todd >>>> >>>> -Original Message- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegrou
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi Listers, I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2. Their site is http://www.softorino.com It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your iDevice. It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. There is a 24 hour full trial. I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems on his mac. Lol. Go figure. If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. Thom thom3...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: > there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you > to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. > - Original Message - From: "denise avant" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > windows > > > > Hello everyone, > Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for > some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in > windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what > was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the > need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time > to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us > simply connected our cables to our computers to download > I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and > other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using > iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA >> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few >> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a >> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some >> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can >> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it >> as good as it can be. >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the >> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a >> screenreader. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> Denise, >> >> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, >> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of denise avant >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Hello everyone, >> I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if >> i
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
If anyone is interested, I think I have the latest version of iTunes 12 that works with JAWS. I can send a link to my sendspace file. Thom thom3...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: > there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you > to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. > - Original Message - From: "denise avant" > > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > windows > > > > Hello everyone, > Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for > some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in > windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what > was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the > need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time > to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us > simply connected our cables to our computers to download > I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and > other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using > iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA >> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few >> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a >> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some >> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can >> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it >> as good as it can be. >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the >> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a >> screenreader. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Todd Patkus >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> Denise, >> >> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, >> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >> >> Todd >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of denise avant >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> Hello everyone, >> I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if >> it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc >> from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest >> version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of >> the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you >> >> -- >> The following information is important for all members of the V >> iPhone list. >> >> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact >> the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list >> itself. >> >> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara >> Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> >> The archives for this list can be searched at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> --
Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on there, and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But that's no excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows. > On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle wrote: > > Hi Listers, > I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2. > Their site is > http://www.softorino.com > It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without > the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for > the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch > waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows > dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one > folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your > iDevice. > It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. > There is a 24 hour full trial. > I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. > If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 > and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. > > I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said > that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems > on his mac. Lol. > > Go figure. > > If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. > > Thom > thom3...@gmail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the > originals? > > > Carol P - UK > > > > On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: >> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you >> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. >> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for >> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in >> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what >> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the >> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time >> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us >> simply connected our cables to our computers to download >> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and >> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using >> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA >>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few >>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a >>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some >>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can >>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it >>> as good as it can be. >>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the >>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a >>> screenreader. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf Of Todd Patkus >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >>> windows >>> >>> Denise, >>> >>> If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, >>> suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. >>&
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I just wonder if Apple won't shut this down once it learns of it. Do you know if it was developed in collaboration with Apple? Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:24 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on there, and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But that's no excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows. > On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle wrote: > > Hi Listers, > I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2. > Their site is > http://www.softorino.com > It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without > the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for > the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch > waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows > dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one > folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your > iDevice. > It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. > There is a 24 hour full trial. > I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. > If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 > and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. > > I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said > that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems > on his mac. Lol. > > Go figure. > > If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. > > Thom > thom3...@gmail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the > originals? > > > Carol P - UK > > > > On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: >> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you >> to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. >> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" >> >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM >> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for >> windows >> >> >> >> Hello everyone, >> Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for >> some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in >> windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what >> was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the >> need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time >> to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us >> simply connected our cables to our computers to download >> I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and >> other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using >> iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>> >>> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA >>> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few >>> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a >>> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some >>> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can >>> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it >>> as good as it can be. >>> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is >>> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the >>> site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a >>> screenreader. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> >>> -Original Message- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>> Behalf
RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows
Hi Thom, This interests me greatly and I'll be looking at it more closely as soon as I can. What are you saying by your comment that it works wel, for the most part? What doesn't work properly and is the software provider going to fix it any time soon? It seems that, even if we don't get a good version of iTunares we're probably going to see some alternatives and that can't be a bad thing. Personally, I just don't want to bother with iTunes any more because, as soon as you get just a little bit used to a new version with all the things that do and do not work, it's changed again! I certainly want to transfer to and from my phone. By the way, can you save to the program as well as put music etc into your phone? I'll just have to look at it now, wont i! I may also look at the other program menbbned in this thread, time permitting! Anyway, I'll look forward to any further comments you may be able to make and will be pleased to get in touch with you once I've purchased. Carol P—UK On 21 Nov 2016 18:01, Thom Spittle wrote: > > Hi Listers, > I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called > waltr2. > Their site is > http://www.softorino.com > It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without > the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for > the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch > waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows > dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one > folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your > iDevice. > It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. > There is a 24 hour full trial. > I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. > If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 > and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. > > I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said > that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems > on his mac. Lol. > > Go figure. > > If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. > > Thom > thom3...@gmail.com > > > -Original Message- > From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the > originals? > > > Carol P - UK > > > > On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: > > there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you > > to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. > > - Original Message - From: "denise avant" > > > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM > > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > > windows > > > > > > > > Hello everyone, > > Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for > > some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in > > windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what > > was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the > > need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time > > to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us > > simply connected our cables to our computers to download > > I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and > > other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using > > iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > >> > >> Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA > >> isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few > >> scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a > >> huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some > >> pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can > >> get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it > >> as good as it can be. > >> The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is > >> implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the > >> site is more
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I heard that blindTunes really went up in price. Does anyone have any up to date information? - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 7:49 AM Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows It would be interesting to know if the BlindTunes scripts make selecting apps and tones for syncing possible. I use Leasey Advanced and there are a few things in Leasey which help a bit with iTunes, but nothing that goes that deep. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tony Hernandez Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 5:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I'm a bit of a Johnny-come-lately on this thread, but has anyone mentioned the BlindTunes scripts? I haven't used iTunes in ages, but I used these scripts with a fair degree of success when I did use the program. I've since changed computers and simply haven't gotten around to putting iTunes on it, no need. On 11/21/2016 7:10 AM, Hope Paulos wrote: Good morning everyone… In order for peoples voices to be heard regarding accessibility of iTunes, it is my opinion, that both companies need to be contacted. You can even send the same email to both if you'd like… The address to contact VFO Formally freedom scientific, is: suggesti...@vfo-group.com The address to contact Apple is: accessibil...@apple.com The person that mentioned that Apple needs to make the changes first, is correct. Take care, and have a great day! Hope Paulos On Nov 21, 2016, at 6:14 AM, Larry Smith wrote: Smiles, Todd, have a great day! On Nov 20, 2016, at 10:42 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: Larry, You are mistaken. I am not angry, just being very firm about what I said. That is it. Please watch out your language. You used a bad word here. Rip it off. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Smith Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 6:48 AM To: 'Eleanor Roberts' via VIPhone Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Todd, why do you come across as being so angry all the time? You seem as though you are pissed at the world! Smiles, I guess I know how you will respond. But It’s ok. On Nov 19, 2016, at 9:54 PM, Todd Patkus wrote: Sieghard, I mentioned Freedom is because Denise said "JAWS". Do not get on top of me! Watch out what you are going to say. All I did was suggest her contact them. That is it! Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you --
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yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can
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it reminds me of redchair software which had this ability years ago. then they disappeared. - Original Message - From: "Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D." To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 11:31 AM Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I just wonder if Apple won't shut this down once it learns of it. Do you know if it was developed in collaboration with Apple? Thanks, Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of christopher hallsworth Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:24 PM To: Viphone Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Waltr2? For Windows? That's news to me. I thought it was *only* for the mac. Thanks for sharing. ANd no, that blind Apple representative wouldn't have problems with iTunes on his or her mac, because it is 100% accessible on there, and it will be because of their own screen reader VoiceOver. Lol! But that's no excuse to not make it 100% accessible on Windows. On 21 Nov 2016, at 18:01, Thom Spittle wrote: Hi Listers, I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2. Their site is http://www.softorino.com It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your iDevice. It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. There is a 24 hour full trial. I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems on his mac. Lol. Go figure. If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. Thom thom3...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02
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So, what are the restrictions if you don't purchase? Carol P On 22/11/2016 05:02, Robert Doc Wright wrote: yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rathe
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Does it support such things being able to transfer large zip files into voice dream reader? -Original Message- From: Thom Spittle Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hi Listers, I have been in contact with the developers of a windows program called waltr2. Their site is http://www.softorino.com It will sync music, tones, documents and audio books to your iDevice without the need for iTunes. It works very well and the program is accessible, for the most part. You just connect your iDevice to the computer and launch waltr2. You see your device, then tab once more and open the familiar windows dialog box for choosing items. I put all of what I wanted to transfer in one folder and selected all. It puts the items where they should go on your iDevice. It costs $39.95, and their tech support is great. There is a 24 hour full trial. I have suggested a way to import a playlist feature. If you import movies, it will convert the file (AVI, MKV, and others) to MP4 and transfer to your iDevice. Just go to videos and there it is. I wish apple would fix iTunes. I have called them months ago and they said that they will look into it. The blind customer service rep had no problems on his mac. Lol. Go figure. If you have any questions about waltr2, just let me know. Thom thom3...@gmail.com -Original Message- From: 'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 12:41 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for
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Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? -Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or
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I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: > > Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? > > -----Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to > purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. > ----- Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" > > To: > Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > >> Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the >> originals? >> >> >> Carol P - UK >> >> >> >>> On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: >>> there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to >>> copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. >>> - Original Message - From: "denise avant" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM >>> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >>> >>> >>> >>> Hello everyone, >>> Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some >>> of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has >>> gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible >>> when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data >>> from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember >&
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Hello Ari, Very well done, to demonstrate all these issues with multiple screen readers and educate the Apple Accessibility representative! It would be very interesting to know whether Windows 7 users are having the same problems. I find it hard to believe that the problem is completely due to changes in Windows because some parts of iTunes are fully accessible in Windows 10, while others are not. But the better defined the problem is, the more likely it is that someone will try to solve it. Best, Anna > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: > > I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them > about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an > iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The > issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS > 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these > lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the > refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's > text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, > either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently > received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to > install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and > tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the > screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said > that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had > changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they > programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine > in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had > changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the > underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him > it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 > were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. > I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also > running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not > presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue > is with iTunes. > > Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers > were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I > couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was > rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda > talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen > readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that > he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than > VoiceOver on Mac. > > Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I > spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be > really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 > could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful > dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if > any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not > propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: >> >> Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? >> >> -Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright >> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to >> purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. >> - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" >> >> To: >> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM >> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows >> >> >>> Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the >>> originals? >>> >>> >>> Carol P - UK >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wrigh
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Apple never admits its responsibilities ... The fault is always of others ... Everyone knows that this accessibility issue in Itunes on windows is the responsibility of Apple ... Steve Jobs, we miss you. Tim Cook, sucks. cheers. Às 16:51 de 22/11/2016, englishride...@gmail.com escreveu: I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. Thanks, Ari On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? -Original Message----- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. ----- Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables
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I installed iTunes on one of my Windows 7 desktops at work today, but I forgot to bring a Lightning cable so I couldn't connect my phone. However, just from looking at the library section, Windows 7 with Jaws 18 and the latest version of iTunes behaves exactly the same in the column browser list views as that combination does with Windows 10, I still have to do the screen refresh for Jaws to read any of the content in the genre, artist and album list views and Jaws still says something "Description L1" with each item. My guess is that I will have no more success with a phone connected when it comes to transferring selected ringtones or apps and whoever that guy at Apple was who said it was because of Windows he just didn't know what he was talking about. As a "loyal" Apple employee he probably just didn't want to say that Apple could possibly not be perfect. I really think 500 or 600 list members should al phoen Apple Accessibility and ask why iTunes on a PC is so horrible and ask to have this fixed, maybe then Apple would take note. Preferably everybody should make a habit out of it and call and ask how this was coming once a month. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello Ari, Very well done, to demonstrate all these issues with multiple screen readers and educate the Apple Accessibility representative! It would be very interesting to know whether Windows 7 users are having the same problems. I find it hard to believe that the problem is completely due to changes in Windows because some parts of iTunes are fully accessible in Windows 10, while others are not. But the better defined the problem is, the more likely it is that someone will try to solve it. Best, Anna > On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: > > I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them > about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an > iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The > issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS > 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these > lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the > refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's > text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, > either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently > received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to > install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and > tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the > screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said > that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had > changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they > programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine > in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had > changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the > underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him > it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 > were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. > I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also > running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not > presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue > is with iTunes. > > Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers > were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I > couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was > rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda > talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen > readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that > he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than > VoiceOver on Mac. > > Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I > spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be > really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTune
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Just time. if I remember correctly I believe the trial runs out after two weeks. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 3:12 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows So, what are the restrictions if you don't purchase? Carol P On 22/11/2016 05:02, Robert Doc Wright wrote: yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables to our computers to download I was just trying to find out whether I could sync my contacts and other material such as photos and notes from my phone when using iTunes in windows. I guess not. Thanks for all your help. Sent from my iPhone On Nov 19, 2016, at 8:49 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Unfortunately this is not strictly a Freedom Scientific problem, NVDA isn't doing a lot better with iTunes and while there are a few scripts out there which help a bit, there aren't any which make a huge difference. I have a feeling that Apple would have to make some pretty major changes so that companies like Freedom Scientific can get at the information and in turn do whatever is needed to make it as good as it can be. The same applies to the iCloud.com website, I highly doubt Apple is implementing web accessibility guidelines/standards here since the site is more or less unuseable for somebody who needs to rely on a screenreader. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Todd Patkus Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Denise, If you feel strong enough to have what you want be done, then, suggest you contact Freedom Scientific on this one. Todd -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 7:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I don't think the interface is very good with jaws at all. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 6:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.go
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I would assume that the current version of Window Eyes has the same issue? -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. Thanks, Ari On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne wrote: Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? -Original Message----- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. ----- Original Message ----- From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" To: Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. - Original Message - From: "denise avant" To: Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, Thanks for the input. I thought there might be some workarounds for some of the problems. It appears that accessibility with iTunes in windows has gotten worse over the years. I was just trying to see what was possible when using iTunes with windows 10 after all there is the need to sync data from the iPhone and iPad to one's computer from time to time I can remember when some of us upgraded to iOS 10. A lot of us simply connected our cables
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Yes, Window-Eyes has the same issue. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPhone 5S) On Nov 23, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would assume that the current version of Window Eyes has the same issue? -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. Thanks, Ari On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? -----Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol P - UK On 21/11/2016 03:08, Robert Doc Wright wrote: there is a program called "copytoy" it costs $14 and it will allow you to copy music, contacts, pictures from your iDevice to your pc. ----- Original Message - From: "denise avant" mailto:denise.av...@gmail.com>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 8:10 PM Subject: R
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Hi Ari, I would beg to differ with respect to how well Jaws is reading the content of the column browser lists. I used to be able to arrow down and it would read perfectly, now I have to frequently use the screen refresh command (it was me who mentioned it) and even then it says "L1" after each genre or artist or album Jaws reads. I also think the guy who spoke to has probably very little information is to what underlying changes the iTunes team may have made and obviously he is clueless when it comes to Windows screenreaders, Jaws was doing a good job with Windows 95, 98 and 98SE when there was very basic Mac accessibility and since 2000 or 2001 when Windows XP came out and until Mac released this current form of Voiceover there was no accessibility of the Mac. Anyhow, I am using Jaws 18 and on my laptop I have Windows 10 and the latest version of iTunes and there is no improvement as far as I can tell when compared to how this worked with Jaws 17. I also installed iTunes on one of my desktop computers at my work which is still on Windows 7. I am also using Jaws 18 and the issues are identical, the column browser needs to be refreshed a lot and neither apps nor tones are read by Jaws when I connect my iPhone. Since this worked perfectly with iTunes 11 it is clear that the Apple guy you spoke with really is clueless and he just said that it was because of Windows because he is probably told not to say it was because of Apple. There simply is no excuse for this and I'd love to have a chance to talk to Tim Cook, quote him on some of Apple's wonderful accessibility propaganda especially from their recent event and then ask him how he explains the incredible oversight and lack of accessibility with two products which have been around for many years, iTunes and iCloud.com. I also would like to hear him justify how they are sending out links to surveys which are completely inaccessible... really, a survey? How hard can it be to make it accessible, I get others all the time where the checkboxes or radio buttons and so on are perfectly accessible. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple ab
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And, from what I have heard, so does NVDA and Narrator in Windows 10 which Microsoft has been making into a pretty useable screenreader. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:04 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Yes, Window-Eyes has the same issue. Richard “By doing what you love, you inspire and awaken the hearts of others." - Satsuki Shibuya (Sent from my iPhone 5S) On Nov 23, 2016, at 6:16 AM, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would assume that the current version of Window Eyes has the same issue? -Original Message- From: englishride...@gmail.com<mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 8:51 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the way they programed those lists (after all, the lists of the column browser work fine in the main music library) and he said that as far as he knew, nothing had changed except the way things were arranged in the program, not the underlying structure of the way things were made in the program,. I told him it'd be interesting to see if blind users of the latest iTunes and Windows 7 were haveing the same issues. A friend of mine is running Windows 8 or 8.1. I'll have to check if she's having the same issues I'm having. She's also running NVDA. I want to see if this is really a Microsoft issues with not presenting things well in Windows 10 to any screen readers' or if the issue is with iTunes. Lol the Apple Accessibility rep had the idea that all Windows screen readers were rather limited, and could only perform the "basics," as he put it. I couldn't let that slide, and set him straight on that. I must say, he was rather surprised. I wonder if that was just his Mac bias or Apple propaganda talking. Either way, he needed to know that not only were Windows screen readers very capable, but that I was a capable user of two of them, so that he knew I wasn't just spouting Windows screen readers are better than VoiceOver on Mac. Anyway, just thought I'd tell you all about the issues I'm having, and that I spoke to Apple about them, and that I'm going to do some testing. It'd be really useful if people running Windows 7 and the latest version of iTunes 12 could see if they're having the same issues I am' so I i can keep a useful dialogue going with Apple, and possibly start one with Microsoft. Sorry if any of this has been a bit nonsensicle; it's rather early here, and I'm not propperly awake yet. I just wanted to get this in before I forgot any of it. Thanks, Ari On Nov 22, 2016, at 7:02 AM, Russ Kiehne mailto:russ94...@gmail.com>> wrote: Perhaps someone could do a podcast on this program and post it on Applevis? -----Original Message- From: Robert Doc Wright Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 9:02 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows yes, it works fine during the demo. I just haven't been able to afford to purchase it yet with Murphy constantly rearing its head at my house. - Original Message - From: "'Carol Pearson' via VIPhone" mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2016 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Anyone tried this and, if so, is it good and keeps the quality of the originals? Carol
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Hey, Sieghard, I had a little bit of the same issue you're talking about with JAWS in the main music library, but NVDA didn't have this issue. This was with JAWS 17, as I said, and I'll test with JAWS 18 as soon as possible. I tried the JAWS screen refresh keystroak in the iPhone music section, with the sync selected artists, albums and playlists setting, and still nothing would read. This is super frustrating. If you tested the latest version of iTunes 12 with Windows 7, and we're running into similar issues, even in the main music section, where he wasn't having as much trouble, it doesn't seem like a Windows 10 problem, at least not totally. When you get a chance, can you try things with the iPhone music section when your iPhone is connected to that Windows 7 computer? I'd like to see if you're getting the same results as I was in that section of iTunes with jaws, NVDA, and Narrator. Obviously, you're probably not going to get any kind of good results with Narrator on Windows 7, but if you can try it with NVDA and JAWS on Windows 7, that be great. I want to see if we're having the same results or not. I want to try to pin this down, and start speaking to whoever turns out to be responsible for things being this crappy. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I installed iTunes on one of my Windows 7 desktops at work today, but I > forgot to bring a Lightning cable so I couldn't connect my phone. However, > just from looking at the library section, Windows 7 with Jaws 18 and the > latest version of iTunes behaves exactly the same in the column browser list > views as that combination does with Windows 10, I still have to do the screen > refresh for Jaws to read any of the content in the genre, artist and album > list views and Jaws still says something "Description L1" with each item. My > guess is that I will have no more success with a phone connected when it > comes to transferring selected ringtones or apps and whoever that guy at > Apple was who said it was because of Windows he just didn't know what he was > talking about. As a "loyal" Apple employee he probably just didn't want to > say that Apple could possibly not be perfect. I really think 500 or 600 list > members should al phoen Apple Accessibility and ask why iTunes on a PC is so > horrible and ask to have this fixed, maybe then Apple would take note. > Preferably everybody should make a habit out of it and call and ask how this > was coming once a month. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:16 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hello Ari, > > Very well done, to demonstrate all these issues with multiple screen readers > and educate the Apple Accessibility representative! It would be very > interesting to know whether Windows 7 users are having the same problems. I > find it hard to believe that the problem is completely due to changes in > Windows because some parts of iTunes are fully accessible in Windows 10, > while others are not. But the better defined the problem is, the more likely > it is that someone will try to solve it. > > Best, > Anna > > > >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them >> about the problems for screen reader users when trying to sync music to an >> iDevice with the sync selected artists, albums, and playlists method. The >> issue is that no screen reader I've tried (the latest version of NVDA, JAWS >> 17, and even Narrator) on my Windows 10 machine will read anything in these >> lists. I haven't yet tried (I think it was Marc's suggestion) of using the >> refresh screen feature of JAWS to try to get things reading with it. NVDA's >> text and object review commands don't make it possible to read anything, >> either. The reason I haven't yet tried JAWS 18 is that I only recently >> received my SMA update to version 18, and I haven't yet had a chance to >> install it. I'll report back with more news when I've installed JAWS 18 and >> tried the screen refresh command. By the way, I did all the tests of the >> screen readers mentioned above when the rep was on the phone with me. He >> said that the issue was with Microsoft. I specifically asked him if anything >> had changed in the latest versions of iTunes 12 in terms of the wa
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Hi Ari, As I explained in my previous email, I have already tried the Windows 7 + Jaws 18 combination with the latest iTunes and my phone connected. If I go to apps and tones I get the exact same thing as I do with Windows 10 + Jaws 18. The apps read, but I can't check them and the tones just say that I'm in the Tones treeview and Jaws reads zip. Unfortunately I'm not an NVDA user. I know it has some similarities with Jaws, but I'm just not familiar enough with it to quickly install it and test this and I just don't have the time right now to spend time on it beyond what I could easily and quickly do. Apple claiming this is a Windows 10 issue is ridiculous, the behaviour in Windows 7 is identical and they just have to get their act together and talk to Freedom Scientific to see what they each have to do to make this better. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of englishride...@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:50 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hey, Sieghard, I had a little bit of the same issue you're talking about with JAWS in the main music library, but NVDA didn't have this issue. This was with JAWS 17, as I said, and I'll test with JAWS 18 as soon as possible. I tried the JAWS screen refresh keystroak in the iPhone music section, with the sync selected artists, albums and playlists setting, and still nothing would read. This is super frustrating. If you tested the latest version of iTunes 12 with Windows 7, and we're running into similar issues, even in the main music section, where he wasn't having as much trouble, it doesn't seem like a Windows 10 problem, at least not totally. When you get a chance, can you try things with the iPhone music section when your iPhone is connected to that Windows 7 computer? I'd like to see if you're getting the same results as I was in that section of iTunes with jaws, NVDA, and Narrator. Obviously, you're probably not going to get any kind of good results with Narrator on Windows 7, but if you can try it with NVDA and JAWS on Windows 7, that be great. I want to see if we're having the same results or not. I want to try to pin this down, and start speaking to whoever turns out to be responsible for things being this crappy. Thanks, Ari > On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > I installed iTunes on one of my Windows 7 desktops at work today, but I > forgot to bring a Lightning cable so I couldn't connect my phone. However, > just from looking at the library section, Windows 7 with Jaws 18 and the > latest version of iTunes behaves exactly the same in the column browser list > views as that combination does with Windows 10, I still have to do the screen > refresh for Jaws to read any of the content in the genre, artist and album > list views and Jaws still says something "Description L1" with each item. My > guess is that I will have no more success with a phone connected when it > comes to transferring selected ringtones or apps and whoever that guy at > Apple was who said it was because of Windows he just didn't know what he was > talking about. As a "loyal" Apple employee he probably just didn't want to > say that Apple could possibly not be perfect. I really think 500 or 600 list > members should al phoen Apple Accessibility and ask why iTunes on a PC is so > horrible and ask to have this fixed, maybe then Apple would take note. > Preferably everybody should make a habit out of it and call and ask how this > was coming once a month. > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Woody Anna Dresner > Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2016 9:16 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for > windows > > Hello Ari, > > Very well done, to demonstrate all these issues with multiple screen readers > and educate the Apple Accessibility representative! It would be very > interesting to know whether Windows 7 users are having the same problems. I > find it hard to believe that the problem is completely due to changes in > Windows because some parts of iTunes are fully accessible in Windows 10, > while others are not. But the better defined the problem is, the more likely > it is that someone will try to solve it. > > Best, > Anna > > > >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 10:51 AM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> I was just on the phone with Apple Accessibility yesterday to talk with them >> about the problems for sc
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Oh, owch! That is definitely a problem, then. I'll let Apple know that other screen reader users are having the same problems I've been having. I'll also let them know that these issues aren't a Windows 10-specific thing, either. This is so frustrating.,! iTunes used to be usable, at least. Frustrating at times, but definitely usable! Now not only is file sharing wonky, but syncing selected music and ringtones is, as well. Apple really needs to fix things! I sincerely hope the next version of iTunes fixes all the problems Windows screen reader users have been having! Thanks, Ari > On Nov 23, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > > Hi Ari, > > As I explained in my previous email, I have already tried the Windows 7 + > Jaws 18 combination with the latest iTunes and my phone connected. If I go to > apps and tones I get the exact same thing as I do with Windows 10 + Jaws 18. > The apps read, but I can't check them and the tones just say that I'm in the > Tones treeview and Jaws reads zip. > > Unfortunately I'm not an NVDA user. I know it has some similarities with > Jaws, but I'm just not familiar enough with it to quickly install it and test > this and I just don't have the time right now to spend time on it beyond what > I could easily and quickly do. > > Apple claiming this is a Windows 10 issue is ridiculous, the behaviour in > Windows 7 is identical and they just have to get their act together and talk > to Freedom Scientific to see what they each have to do to make this better. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > englishride...@gmail.com > Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2016 1:50 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows > > Hey, Sieghard, > > > I had a little bit of the same issue you're talking about with JAWS in the > main music library, but NVDA didn't have this issue. This was with JAWS 17, > as I said, and I'll test with JAWS 18 as soon as possible. I tried the JAWS > screen refresh keystroak in the iPhone music section, with the sync selected > artists, albums and playlists setting, and still nothing would read. This is > super frustrating. If you tested the latest version of iTunes 12 with Windows > 7, and we're running into similar issues, even in the main music section, > where he wasn't having as much trouble, it doesn't seem like a Windows 10 > problem, at least not totally. When you get a chance, can you try things with > the iPhone music section when your iPhone is connected to that Windows 7 > computer? I'd like to see if you're getting the same results as I was in that > section of iTunes with jaws, NVDA, and Narrator. Obviously, you're probably > not going to get any kind of good results with Narrator on Windows 7, but if > you can try it with NVDA and JAWS on Windows 7, that be great. I want to see > if we're having the same results or not. I want to try to pin this down, and > start speaking to whoever turns out to be responsible for things being this > crappy. > > > Thanks, > Ari > >> On Nov 22, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> >> I installed iTunes on one of my Windows 7 desktops at work today, but I >> forgot to bring a Lightning cable so I couldn't connect my phone. However, >> just from looking at the library section, Windows 7 with Jaws 18 and the >> latest version of iTunes behaves exactly the same in the column browser list >> views as that combination does with Windows 10, I still have to do the >> screen refresh for Jaws to read any of the content in the genre, artist and >> album list views and Jaws still says something "Description L1" with each >> item. My guess is that I will have no more success with a phone connected >> when it comes to transferring selected ringtones or apps and whoever that >> guy at Apple was who said it was because of Windows he just didn't know what >> he was talking about. As a "loyal" Apple employee he probably just didn't >> want to say that Apple could possibly not be perfect. I really think 500 or >> 600 list members should al phoen Apple Accessibility and ask why iTunes on a >> PC is so horrible and ask to have this fixed, maybe then Apple would take >> note. Preferably everybody should make a habit out of it and call and ask >> how this was coming once a month. >> >> Regards, >> Sieghard >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [ma
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Dear Mark, I have downloaded and installed the i-cloud controller. I am not sure that icloud.com website works very well with speech as I am having a little difficulty entering the required code with JAWS. In any case, can you give me some idea how the controller is suppose to work? I'm just trying to retrieve my contacts, and that does not appear to be happening right now. Thanks. BY the way, I am using speech only. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:40 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello Denise, You ask an excellent question and you have received some very good advice. I would like to offer another suggestion that you may find useful. If you use Microsoft Outlook on your new computer, you may wish to install the iCloud Control Panel. This simple tool is completely accessible with screen readers and will allow you to sync/access your iCloud data such as Contacts, Appointments, Notes, etc via Outlook. This is the primary way I keep all of my iCloud data in sync across all of my Windows, Macs, and iOS/Android devices. Installing the iCloud control panel is easy and Apple keeps it up-to-date for all necessary versions of Windows including Windows 7.x and 8.x.. Another quick and easy way to access your iCloud data on your PC is to use iCloud.com. Depending upon your screen/reader of choice, your mileage may vary but I think it definitely worth a try to access iCloud via your web browser and see what happens. Explore all the options and discover what is right for you. As a Windows user, I value the fact that Apple continues to maintain a definite bridge between iCloud on both Windows and Mac. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of denise avant Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2016 4:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Latest version of iTunes with windows 10 and jaws for windows Hello everyone, I have a few questions about iTunes and windows I am wondering if it is possible to sync all of my contacts, appointments, notes, etc from my iPhone 6s plus to my new windows computer I have the latest version of itunes I am also wondering if I needed to change any of the settings in iTunes to navigate it with JAWS better? Thank you -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor and your owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone&qu
