RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Andy,
Ok, got it!
Thank you.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 6:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Both!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:32 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Andy,
Ok, which one is voice dream? The scanner or the reader?
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

It’s “voice dream”


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Andy,
Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Richard,
Ok, so now, I need the Voice Dream reader, as well as the scanner, if I want to 
read PDF files.  It really doesn’t matter to me if I need both, just as long as 
these products will help me.  Well, my personal opinion regarding KNFB reader 
it is a lost cause!  I’m tired of working with these so called wonderful apps 
that don’t even work.
Thank you for your help.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:53 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


Janet,
if the attachment is an image PDF, you would have to have VOICE Dream Reader 
and Voice Dream Scanner.
The Voice Dream Scanner app cannot access the attachments.
Or, if you still have KNFB Reader, you could try it with an attachment.
Though, I am doubtful it works very well now.
HTH,
Richard

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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 2, 2019, at 4:36 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Richard,
So am I right in thinking if I received an email or text message with an 
attachment, I can use the scanner or the reader?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
Glad to hear the phone checks out.

Voice Dream Scanner can be used completely on its own.

Aside from loving the Voice Dream Reader app and how it handles so many 
document types, especially books from Bookshare, when you have both apps, you 
can scan image based PDF files from within Voice Dream Reader using Scanner.
but like I say, if you don't need or want Voice Dream Reader, Voice Dream 
Scanner works fine by itself; you just won't be able to use it for PDF files.

Richard

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C718834084f0d4e946b9a08d6e7b31cd6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636951153799030810=Rd%2BVDCM3cUGYv%2FCDfNBz%2Fbd%2Bbmpb7SLQxDwN3f3MCB0%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 2, 2019, at 1:51 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Yes, I am definitely considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner.  Can 
Voice Stream scanner be purchased from the app store? I called Apple 
accessibility, and they remotely ran a diagnostic test, and I am happy to say 
all is well!  So I can now purchase the Voice Stream Scanner!  Smile!  I don’t 
have the voice Stream Reader though, will that make a difference?
Thank you again!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Well, the Seeing AI app as we all know is free seems to work just fine for a 
lot of people. Why it doesn’t work for some I don’t know, but while I also 
don’t use the KNFB Reader app any more, I do use the Seeing AI app as well as 
Tap Tap See. I have not found either of these apps to have gone downhill and it 
sounds like Tap Tap See may soon get a big update which will make it even 
better.
I also bought Voice Dream Scanner and I do agree that it is an amazing app. If 
Andy’s logic applied then KNFB Reader which is super expensive compared to 
Voice Dream Scanner should win hands down, but that is definitely not the case. 
I also say that you get what you pay for in some situations, but it is not 
always the case and sometimes you pay more for something and you get less.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 2:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

What can you expect from something that is free?
That's just not the way the world works.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now,

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Evan Reese]

Okay, to be just a little more clear, there are two programs, one is called 
Voice Dream Reader, and the other is called Voice Dream Scanner.
Evan

From: Andy Baracco 
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 7:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Both!

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:32 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

  Andy, 

  Ok, which one is voice dream? The scanner or the reader? 

  Janet 

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  It’s “voice dream”

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 5:09 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Andy, 

Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!  

Janet 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m 
not sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a 
camera, smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the 
moment. With my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading 
machine more now.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Andy, 

May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV 
apps? Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

You get what you pay for!

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  HI Mary, 

  Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice 
Stream Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they 
are all  deteriating!  LOL!   

  Janet 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  Hi Janet,
  I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
  Mary

   

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  
wrote:

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Janet,
if the attachment is an image PDF, you would have to have VOICE Dream Reader 
and Voice Dream Scanner.
The Voice Dream Scanner app cannot access the attachments.
Or, if you still have KNFB Reader, you could try it with an attachment.
Though, I am doubtful it works very well now.
HTH,
Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 2, 2019, at 4:36 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Richard,
So am I right in thinking if I received an email or text message with an 
attachment, I can use the scanner or the reader?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
Glad to hear the phone checks out.

Voice Dream Scanner can be used completely on its own.

Aside from loving the Voice Dream Reader app and how it handles so many 
document types, especially books from Bookshare, when you have both apps, you 
can scan image based PDF files from within Voice Dream Reader using Scanner.
but like I say, if you don't need or want Voice Dream Reader, Voice Dream 
Scanner works fine by itself; you just won't be able to use it for PDF files.

Richard

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C718834084f0d4e946b9a08d6e7b31cd6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636951153799030810=Rd%2BVDCM3cUGYv%2FCDfNBz%2Fbd%2Bbmpb7SLQxDwN3f3MCB0%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 2, 2019, at 1:51 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Yes, I am definitely considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner.  Can 
Voice Stream scanner be purchased from the app store? I called Apple 
accessibility, and they remotely ran a diagnostic test, and I am happy to say 
all is well!  So I can now purchase the Voice Stream Scanner!  Smile!  I don’t 
have the voice Stream Reader though, will that make a difference?
Thank you again!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.
It does not do bar codes, or any scene descriptions, but it will do the best 
job scanning print.

It does not do columns yet, but for text on cans, prescription bottles, sheets 
of paper, there is nothing like it.

Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C718834084f0d4e946b9a08d6e7b31cd6%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636951153799040819=%2BmZtAHLohe8lQoNcgzYwDpPdLCxj%2BWXk8pHS47N0joU%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the s

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Andy Baracco]

Both!

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:32 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.


  Andy, 

  Ok, which one is voice dream? The scanner or the reader? 

  Janet 

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:12 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  It’s “voice dream”

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
  Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 5:09 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Andy, 

Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!  

Janet 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m 
not sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a 
camera, smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the 
moment. With my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading 
machine more now.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Andy, 

May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV 
apps? Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

You get what you pay for!

 

Andy

 

  - Original Message - 

  From: janet gross 

  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  HI Mary, 

  Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice 
Stream Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they 
are all  deteriating!  LOL!   

  Janet 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Mary Otten
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  Hi Janet,
  I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
  Mary

   

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  
wrote:

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it 
that we go on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

  Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Richard,
So am I right in thinking if I received an email or text message with an 
attachment, I can use the scanner or the reader?

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
Glad to hear the phone checks out.

Voice Dream Scanner can be used completely on its own.

Aside from loving the Voice Dream Reader app and how it handles so many 
document types, especially books from Bookshare, when you have both apps, you 
can scan image based PDF files from within Voice Dream Reader using Scanner.
but like I say, if you don't need or want Voice Dream Reader, Voice Dream 
Scanner works fine by itself; you just won't be able to use it for PDF files.

Richard

Check out my web site at: 
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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On Jun 2, 2019, at 1:51 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Yes, I am definitely considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner.  Can 
Voice Stream scanner be purchased from the app store? I called Apple 
accessibility, and they remotely ran a diagnostic test, and I am happy to say 
all is well!  So I can now purchase the Voice Stream Scanner!  Smile!  I don’t 
have the voice Stream Reader though, will that make a difference?
Thank you again!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.
It does not do bar codes, or any scene descriptions, but it will do the best 
job scanning print.

It does not do columns yet, but for text on cans, prescription bottles, sheets 
of paper, there is nothing like it.

Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C1ede6e563084453475b608d6e79c1dc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636951055029957960=yK4XBKqnC9VMRT3URiW0oFApqjj0TSwPibwRavdGze0%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston C

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Andy,
Ok, which one is voice dream? The scanner or the reader?
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 5:12 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

It’s “voice dream”


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Andy,
Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the b

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Larry Lumpkin]

It’s “voice dream”

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Andy 
Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 5:09 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Andy, 

Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!  

Janet 

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Andy, 

May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

You get what you pay for!

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Mary, 

Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!   

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the b

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Andy Baracco]

They are both wonderful products.  You won't regret buying them.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:59 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.


  Hi Andy, 

  Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!  

  Janet 

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
  Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  HI Andy, 

  May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV 
apps? Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

  I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

   

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  You get what you pay for!

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Mary, 

Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice 
Stream Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they 
are all  deteriating!  LOL!   

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:

  Hi Larry and all. 

  Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

  Janet  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  The product option never works for me either.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone

  The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx


  On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but 
problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the 
other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only 
you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, 
but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the 
time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, 
sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do 
anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Andy,
I’m sure that’s not the way the world works, but I did pay for KNFB Reader, 
matter of fact, I purchased it when it was on sale for $54.99, and that never 
worked much either!  Although, now I’m glad to know there isn’t anything wrong 
with my phone like Microsoft was saying!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:54 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

What can you expect from something that is free?
That's just not the way the world works.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my ca

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Andy,
I thought that might have been your point; but it is a meaningless one since 
she had also listed KNFB Reader which is far from free.
Your cryptic messages serve no point what-so-ever.
Too bad too, as sometimes you actually have something useful to say.
Richard


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any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 2, 2019, at 2:54 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

What can you expect from something that is free?
That's just not the way the world works.

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Andy,
Oh ok!  I now get it! Smile!  Thank you for sharing that, as I am seriously 
considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner, and who knows, I just might 
purchase the Voice stream Reader as well!  LOL!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:49 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the B

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Andy Baracco]

I have never gotten reliable results from seeing AI's bar code reader.  I feel 
that the product has deteriorated in its performance.  For me, this was to be 
expected, because in these instances, a product may be offered for free as a 
way to get people to use the product so they can test proof of concept.  After 
this is done, the developers move on to something else.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: Larry Lumpkin 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:48 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.


  Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
  Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  HI Andy, 

  May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV 
apps? Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

  I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

   

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  You get what you pay for!

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Mary, 

Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice 
Stream Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they 
are all  deteriating!  LOL!   

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:

  Hi Larry and all. 

  Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

  Janet  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  The product option never works for me either.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone

  The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx


  On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but 
problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the 
other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only 
you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, 
but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the 
time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, 
sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do 
anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, 
and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support 
through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Andy Baracco]

What can you expect from something that is free?
That's just not the way the world works.

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 2:41 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.


  HI Andy, 

  May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV 
apps? Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

  I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

   

  Janet 

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  You get what you pay for!

   

  Andy

   

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Mary, 

Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice 
Stream Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they 
are all  deteriating!  LOL!   

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:

  Hi Larry and all. 

  Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

  Janet  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  The product option never works for me either.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone

  The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx


  On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but 
problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the 
other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only 
you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, 
but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the 
time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, 
sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do 
anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, 
and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support 
through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting 
over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess 
that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to 
take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they 
think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing 
AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  
So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have 
the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Larry Lumpkin]

Hi Janet. I have used seeing ai, tap tap see and voice dream scanner. I’m not 
sure seeing ai is deteriorating as much as maybe my ability to hold a camera, 
smile. I just find that voice dream is doing a better job at the moment. With 
my possible deteriorating abilities, I am using our reading machine more now.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Sunday, June 2, 2019 4:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Andy, 

May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner? 

I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!  

 

Janet 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

You get what you pay for!

 

Andy

 

- Original Message - 

From: janet gross <mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>  

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM

Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

HI Mary, 

Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!   

Janet 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com> > wrote:

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Andy,
May I please ask you, have you ever used the Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFV apps? 
Have you used the Voice Stream Scanner?
I ask this because of the message you sent. If there is a point to your 
message, it must have went right over my head because I didn’t get it!  LOL!

Janet
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Andy Baracco
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 4:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
s

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Andy,
What does your statement, "You get what you pay for" mean?
It makes no sense in the context of Janet's note as she mentioned two free apps 
and KNfb Reader, which cost way more than it was ever worth and especially now, 
since it is awful.

I am not finding Seeing AI or TapTapSee getting worse, but those are free apps, 
so not really related to whatever it is you mean.

Richard


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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 2, 2019, at 2:04 PM, Andy Baracco 
mailto:w...@socal.rr.com>> wrote:

You get what you pay for!

Andy

- Original Message -
From: janet gross<mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Andy Baracco]

You get what you pay for!

Andy

  - Original Message - 
  From: janet gross 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2019 1:44 PM
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.


  HI Mary, 

  Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!   

  Janet 

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  Hi Janet,
  I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
  Mary

   

  Sent from my iPhone


  On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See 
app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

  Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but 
problems
  with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
  parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you. 
 

  Lelia 

  -Original Message-
  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet
  gross
  Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
  To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
  Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

  Hi All, 
  I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, 
but
  now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the 
time.
  When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, 
sometimes
  it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
  very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
  the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support 
through
  the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting 
over
  the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
  might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
  it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
  something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
  virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
  app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So 
my
  question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
  app set up correctly? 
  I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
  voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
  the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I 
want
  to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
  sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
  some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, 
but
  I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get 
voiceover
  to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to 
the
  app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
  I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
  reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
  appreciated!  
  Thank you all.  
  Janet 

  Peace Be With You. 



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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Hi Janet,
Glad to hear the phone checks out.

Voice Dream Scanner can be used completely on its own.

Aside from loving the Voice Dream Reader app and how it handles so many 
document types, especially books from Bookshare, when you have both apps, you 
can scan image based PDF files from within Voice Dream Reader using Scanner.
but like I say, if you don't need or want Voice Dream Reader, Voice Dream 
Scanner works fine by itself; you just won't be able to use it for PDF files.

Richard


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“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 2, 2019, at 1:51 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
Yes, I am definitely considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner.  Can 
Voice Stream scanner be purchased from the app store? I called Apple 
accessibility, and they remotely ran a diagnostic test, and I am happy to say 
all is well!  So I can now purchase the Voice Stream Scanner!  Smile!  I don’t 
have the voice Stream Reader though, will that make a difference?
Thank you again!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.
It does not do bar codes, or any scene descriptions, but it will do the best 
job scanning print.

It does not do columns yet, but for text on cans, prescription bottles, sheets 
of paper, there is nothing like it.

Richard


Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C1ede6e563084453475b608d6e79c1dc7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636951055029957960=yK4XBKqnC9VMRT3URiW0oFApqjj0TSwPibwRavdGze0%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: See

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
Yes, I am definitely considering purchasing the Voice Stream Scanner.  Can 
Voice Stream scanner be purchased from the app store? I called Apple 
accessibility, and they remotely ran a diagnostic test, and I am happy to say 
all is well!  So I can now purchase the Voice Stream Scanner!  Smile!  I don’t 
have the voice Stream Reader though, will that make a difference?
Thank you again!
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.
It does not do bar codes, or any scene descriptions, but it will do the best 
job scanning print.

It does not do columns yet, but for text on cans, prescription bottles, sheets 
of paper, there is nothing like it.

Richard


Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might h

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Mary,
Thank you for this as I am seriously considering purchasing the Voice Stream 
Scanner.  As far as those other apps Seeing AI, TapTap See, KNFB, they are all  
deteriating!  LOL!
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 6:15 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!
Thank you all.
Janet

Peace Be With You.



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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Mr. Ed, , 
I have a XR iPhone.  I can't get any of the Seeing AI channels to work.  
Thank you for letting me know, as I thought everyone was using seeing AI 
successfully, but I now see that is not the case. Although, I did use Seeing AI 
successfully with my old iPhone 6, but I firmly believe MS just isn't doing 
very much with that app anymore.   
 
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mr. Ed
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 7:06 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi,
What iPhone do you have? The bar code reader will not work with the 5s iphone. 
Mr. Ed
Mr. Ed

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Lelia 

I don't really think it is my phone either.  I'm sorry to hear you are also 
having problems, but still happy to know I’m not the only one who has problems 
with this app, so thank you for letting me know!   Smile!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

Peace Be With You. 



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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Try using a lint free cloth and cleaning the camera lens.
And, start with the phone about 12 inches away from the item and when you begin 
to hear rapid tones, slowly move the phone closer to the item.
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(15.25 Oz)


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The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On Jun 2, 2019, at 8:09 AM, kitty hevener 
mailto:kheve...@earthlink.net>> wrote:

U know, I could not get seeing ai to read a bar code either.  II t was beeping 
quite fast, but that’s all I got.

From: Mary Otten<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, most 
of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though I’m 
getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I used to 
at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer text or 
document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I already have a 
MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to fool with the 
switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use that. So 
essentially, it is a single use app for me.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider 
mailto:canepri...@gmail.com>> wrote:

While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com&

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[kitty hevener]

U know, I could not get seeing ai to read a bar code either.  II t was beeping 
quite fast, but that’s all I got.  

From: Mary Otten 
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, most 
of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though I’m 
getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I used to 
at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer text or 
document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I already have a 
MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to fool with the 
switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use that. So 
essentially, it is a single use app for me.


Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:


  While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.


  Sent from my iPhone

  On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:


Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary



Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:


  Hi Larry and all. 

  Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, 
and that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice 
dream scanner.  

  Janet  

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

   

  The product option never works for me either.

  Sent from Kimber's iPhone

  The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
we go on.—Annie Proulx


  On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but 
problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the 
other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only 
you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, 
but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the 
time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, 
sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do 
anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, 
and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support 
through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting 
over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess 
that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to 
take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they 
think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing 
AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  
So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have 
the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

['Maria Reyes' via VIPhone]

Voice Dream Scanner is definitely a great purchase. 

Want to join my WhatsApp group, VIP Apple Users? Email me privately with your 
contact information and I will happily add you. 
maria.reye...@icloud.com

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 5:47 PM, l.d.ethie...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I really like voicedream scanner
> 
> Lyne
> 
>> Le 1 juin 2019 à 16:35, Mary Otten  a écrit :
>> 
>> I also have the 10 R phone, and my older 7+, which is now acting sort of 
>> like an iPod touch. I don’t get good results with the barcode from Seeing AI 
>> on either device.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 1:14 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Mary,
>>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app quite successfully with my old 
>>> iPhone, but since I got my new XR phone, I can’t get Seeing AI to do any 
>>> work at all, and I can’t imagine why the phones would make a difference, 
>>> although, I don’t think the phones have anything to do with it. 
>>> Janet
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Mary Otten
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:52 PM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>>  
>>> I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, 
>>> most of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even 
>>> though I’m getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten 
>>> worse. I used to at least be able to get some things to read properly. The 
>>> longer text or document reading has never worked all that well for me. And 
>>> I already have a MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having 
>>> to fool with the switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use 
>>> that. So essentially, it is a single use app for me.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>>> 
>>> While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
>>> definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
>>> barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing 
>>> AI over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the 
>>> app, rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream 
>>> Scanner could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it 
>>> would be wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of 
>>> purposes.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Janet,
>>> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
>>> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with 
>>> Seeing AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came 
>>> out in my opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a 
>>> Voice Dream scanner.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>>  
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Larry and all.
>>> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
>>> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
>>> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this 
>>> voice dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about 
>>> the voice dream scanner. 
>>> Janet  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>>  
>>> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
>>> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kimberly
>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>>  
>>> The product option never works for me either.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
>>> we go on.—Annie Proulx
>>> 

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[l . d . ethier23]

I really like voicedream scanner

Lyne

> Le 1 juin 2019 à 16:35, Mary Otten  a écrit :
> 
> I also have the 10 R phone, and my older 7+, which is now acting sort of like 
> an iPod touch. I don’t get good results with the barcode from Seeing AI on 
> either device.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 1:14 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Mary,
>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app quite successfully with my old 
>> iPhone, but since I got my new XR phone, I can’t get Seeing AI to do any 
>> work at all, and I can’t imagine why the phones would make a difference, 
>> although, I don’t think the phones have anything to do with it. 
>> Janet
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Mary Otten
>> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:52 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, 
>> most of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though 
>> I’m getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I 
>> used to at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer 
>> text or document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I 
>> already have a MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to 
>> fool with the switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use 
>> that. So essentially, it is a single use app for me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
>> 
>> While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
>> definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
>> barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing 
>> AI over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the 
>> app, rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream 
>> Scanner could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would 
>> be wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Janet,
>> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
>> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing 
>> AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
>> opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice 
>> Dream scanner.
>> Mary
>> 
>>  
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Larry and all.
>> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
>> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
>> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this 
>> voice dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about 
>> the voice dream scanner. 
>> Janet  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
>> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> The product option never works for me either.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
>> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
>> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
>> gross
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app un

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Mary Otten]

I also have the 10 R phone, and my older 7+, which is now acting sort of like 
an iPod touch. I don’t get good results with the barcode from Seeing AI on 
either device.


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 1:14 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Mary,
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app quite successfully with my old 
> iPhone, but since I got my new XR phone, I can’t get Seeing AI to do any work 
> at all, and I can’t imagine why the phones would make a difference, although, 
> I don’t think the phones have anything to do with it. 
> Janet
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Mary Otten
> Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:52 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
> I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, 
> most of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though 
> I’m getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I 
> used to at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer text 
> or document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I already have 
> a MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to fool with the 
> switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use that. So 
> essentially, it is a single use app for me.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> 
> While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
> definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
> barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
> over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
> rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
> could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
> wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet,
> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing 
> AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
> opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
> scanner.
> Mary
> 
>  
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry and all.
> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
> dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the 
> voice dream scanner. 
> Janet  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
> The product option never works for me either.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
> 
> Hi All, 
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
> the phone.  Although

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Mary,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app quite successfully with my old 
iPhone, but since I got my new XR phone, I can’t get Seeing AI to do any work 
at all, and I can’t imagine why the phones would make a difference, although, I 
don’t think the phones have anything to do with it.
Janet


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, June 01, 2019 2:52 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, most 
of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though I’m 
getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I used to 
at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer text or 
document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I already have a 
MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to fool with the 
switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use that. So 
essentially, it is a single use app for me.
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider 
mailto:canepri...@gmail.com>> wrote:
While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.
Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten 
mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary

Sent from my iPhone

On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and App

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Mary Otten]

I would agree that seeing AI at least in theory does more things. However, most 
of the time, I can’t get the barcode reader to do anything, even though I’m 
getting the tone at a very fast speed. I think it has gotten worse. I used to 
at least be able to get some things to read properly. The longer text or 
document reading has never worked all that well for me. And I already have a 
MoneyReader app that doesn’t instant job without me having to fool with the 
switch. So the only thing left is short text. And I do use that. So 
essentially, it is a single use app for me.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 1, 2019, at 12:46 PM, Lynn Schneider  wrote:
> 
> While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
> definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
> barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
> over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
> rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
> could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
> wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Janet,
>> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
>> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing 
>> AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
>> opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice 
>> Dream scanner.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Larry and all.
>>> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
>>> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
>>> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this 
>>> voice dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about 
>>> the voice dream scanner. 
>>> Janet  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>>  
>>> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
>>> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>>> Kimberly
>>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>>  
>>> The product option never works for me either.
>>> 
>>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that 
>>> we go on.—Annie Proulx
>>> 
>>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
>>> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
>>> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
>>> 
>>> Lelia 
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
>>> gross
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>>> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>> 
>>> Hi All, 
>>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
>>> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
>>> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
>>> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
>>> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
>>> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
>>> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
>>> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
>>> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
>>> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
>>> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
>>> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Lynn Schneider]

While I totally agree that Voice Dream Scanner is a fantastic app and 
definitely worth the money, Seeing AI currently does more things, like the 
barcode reader. I have definitely noticed a change for the worse in Seeing AI 
over the past month or so. I have tried deleting and reinstalling the app, 
rebooting my phone, resetting network settings, etc. if Voice Dream Scanner 
could do barcode, currency etc. recognition like Seeing AI, it would be 
wonderful, but for now, these apps serve different sets of purposes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 7:15 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Janet,
> I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
> application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing 
> AI or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
> opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
> scanner.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Larry and all.
>> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
>> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
>> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this 
>> voice dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about 
>> the voice dream scanner. 
>> Janet  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Larry Lumpkin
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
>> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
>> Kimberly
>> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>>  
>> The product option never works for me either.
>> 
>> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
>> go on.—Annie Proulx
>> 
>> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
>> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
>> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
>> 
>> Lelia 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
>> gross
>> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
>> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>> 
>> Hi All, 
>> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
>> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
>> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
>> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
>> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
>> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
>> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
>> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
>> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
>> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
>> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
>> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
>> app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
>> question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
>> app set up correctly? 
>> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
>> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
>> the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
>> to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
>> sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
>> some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
>> I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
>> to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
>> app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
>> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Dave Jones]

The six dollar app is much more than worth it. Everyone I know that
purchased the KNFB reader app says it is as well. I promise you will be
very satisfied.

On Fri, May 31, 2019 at 6:57 PM janet gross 
wrote:

> Hi Larry and all.
>
> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and
> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap
> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice
> dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the
> voice dream scanner.
>
> Janet
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Larry Lumpkin
> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>
>
>
> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a
> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of
> *Kimberly
> *Sent:* Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>
>
>
> The product option never works for me either.
>
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
>
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that
> we go on.—Annie Proulx
>
>
> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
>
> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.
>
> Lelia
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
> janet
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>
> Hi All,
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting
> over
> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
> app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
> question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
> app set up correctly?
> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
> the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
> to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
> sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
> some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
> I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get
> voiceover
> to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
> app switcher, or just closes the entire app.
> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
> reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
> appreciated!
> Thank you all.
> Janet
>
> Peace Be With You.
>
>
>
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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi Janet,

Have you tried doing a hard reset and see if that correct any of your issues as 
you said some of the other apps do not work correctly either. If you have a 
case on your iPhone have you made sure it is not blocking the camera on the 
front or the back of your  iPhone.

Mr. Ed

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 5:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

Hi Larry and all. 

Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.  

Janet  

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Mr. Ed]

Hi,
What iPhone do you have? The bar code reader will not work with the 5s iphone. 
Mr. Ed
Mr. Ed

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
janet gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Lelia 

I don't really think it is my phone either.  I'm sorry to hear you are also 
having problems, but still happy to know I’m not the only one who has problems 
with this app, so thank you for letting me know!   Smile!  
Janet 

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

Janet,
Before you do anything, you need to sort out if your phone is having a problem, 
which I suspect now that it is.
If TapTapSee isn’t working for you, then something has gone bad with your 
camera.

KNFB Reader is a joke these days, but TapTapSee should work fine, as well as 
should Seeing AI in at least the short text channel.

So before spending the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, get your phone checked 
out.
Apple should be able to do that remotely if you don’
T have an Apple store handy.

You will need the serial number from the Settings, General, About screen so 
they can run the diagnostics, or rather have you run them and they can see the 
results.

But, I can assure you that if your camera is functioning correctly, you will 
not be sorry to spend the $5.99 for Voice Dream Scanner, especially if you 
already have Voice Dream Reader.
But even without the reader, it is simply the best OCR application on the 
iPhone.
It does not do bar codes, or any scene descriptions, but it will do the best 
job scanning print.

It does not do columns yet, but for text on cans, prescription bottles, sheets 
of paper, there is nothing like it.

Richard


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 3:57 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, b

Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Mary Otten]

Hi Janet,
I think that voice stream scanner is definitely the best scanning OCR 
application for your iPhone. I get much better results than I do with Seeing AI 
or KnFB. That app has actually deteriorated since it first came out in my 
opinion. I think he would be happy spending the six dollars for a Voice Dream 
scanner.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On May 31, 2019, at 3:57 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi Larry and all.
> Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and 
> that doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap 
> See app, and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice 
> dream scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the 
> voice dream scanner. 
> Janet  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Larry Lumpkin
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
> If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a 
> wonderful option. I have found it extremely useful.
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Kimberly
> Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
> The product option never works for me either.
> 
> Sent from Kimber's iPhone
> The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we 
> go on.—Annie Proulx
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
> 
> Hi All, 
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
> app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
> question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
> app set up correctly? 
> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
> the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
> to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
> sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
> some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
> I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
> to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
> app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
> reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
> appreciated!  
> Thank you all.  
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
> 
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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Larry and all.
Yes, I have the $6 to spare, but I’ve paid $55.99 for KNFB Reader app, and that 
doesn’t work well either, I have the Seeing AI app, I have the TapTap See app, 
and that isn’t working either.  So I just wonder how well this voice dream 
scanner might work.  Although, I would like to learn more about the voice dream 
scanner.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Larry Lumpkin
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 8:56 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.


From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

The product option never works for me either.
Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx

On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia 
mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.

Lelia

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!
Thank you all.
Janet

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Larry Lumpkin]

If you have the $6 to spare, Winston Chin’s voice dream scanner is a wonderful 
option. I have found it extremely useful.

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Kimberly
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2019 2:23 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone

The happy ending still beckons, and it is in the hope of grasping it that we go 
on.—Annie Proulx


On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia mailto:leliastr...@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> ' 
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Kimberly]

The product option never works for me either.

Sent from Kimber's iPhone
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> On May 30, 2019, at 9:09 PM, Lelia  wrote:
> 
> Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
> with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
> parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  
> 
> Lelia 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
> gross
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
> Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.
> 
> Hi All, 
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
> it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
> virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
> app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
> question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
> app set up correctly? 
> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
> the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
> to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
> sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
> some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
> I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
> to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
> app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
> reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
> appreciated!  
> Thank you all.  
> Janet 
> 
> Peace Be With You. 
> 
> 
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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Donna]

Janet, is Manage Lighting turned on? This can be found in Menu within the app? 
With this on the app uses the flashlight on the iDevice if more light is 
required. This is the only thing that hasn’t been mentioned. & the only thing 
that comes to mind. 

Donna 
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Rather I swipe or flick, I get the exact same results.  
> Yes, as I said in my previous message, I do clear out the entire app 
> switcher. 
> As I said in my previous message which ever channel I use, again, I get the 
> exact same results.  
> Janet
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:05 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.
>  
>  
> When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
> up to change channels, not tap.
> Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
> You also did not say which channel you are using.
> Richard
>  
> 
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> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
>  
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> any." -- Alice Walker
>  
> 
> On May 30, 2019, at 4:29 PM, janet gross  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
> now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.  
> When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes 
> it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, 
> very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and 
> the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through 
> the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over 
> the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that 
> might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it 
> to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think 
> something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus 
> or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is 
> pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question 
> is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up 
> correctly?
> I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the 
> voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the 
> app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to 
> use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, 
> voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping 
> sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to 
> close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk 
> again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app 
> switcher, or just closes the entire app.
> I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
> my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!
> Thank you all.
> Janet
> 
> Peace Be With You.
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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

I think the Be My Eyes call to microsoft is primarily for when you cannot 
access your computer using a screen reader on a Windows machine and they can 
then see your screen through the camera.
I'm not trying to say they are right to offer no help since it is their app, 
and after thinking about it; Apple might not be of much help because it is a 
third party app. Talk about a Catch 22 situation.
Perhaps writing to seein...@microsoft.com<mailto:seein...@microsoft.com>
would get you a better answer.
I have clients with XR phones who get better results with the Seeing AI app.
At the very least you should be able to read things with the short text channel.
Make sure the camera is not being blocked by anything, and that you have plenty 
of light.
This has to be rather frustrating for you.
Richard



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On May 30, 2019, at 6:57 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

HI Richard,
Yes, I agree with you when you say something is out of order.  I just don’t 
know what.  I probably will have to call Apple to ask them if they have any 
advice now, other than that, I just can’t use that app!  I did use the app when 
I first got it in 2017 on my iPhone 6 though, but just not with my Xr.  
Although, I still believe it is the app.
Now, I’m not understanding what reason would someone call the special call to 
MS through Be My Eyes, if they can’t do anything.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


i would then call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share because 
there is no way you should get the same results on the different channels.
Short Text should be reading things immediately. Document should be giving you 
information about positioning the phone. product should be beeping until it 
finds a bar code, scene preview should make you double tap on the picture 
button, etc.
So, something is most certainly out of order.
Richard

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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On May 30, 2019, at 5:17 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Rather I swipe or flick, I get the exact same results.
Yes, as I said in my previous message, I do clear out the entire app switcher.
As I said in my previous message which ever channel I use, again, I get the 
exact same results.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
up to change channels, not tap.
Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
You also did not say which channel you are using.
Richard

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in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI Richard,
Yes, I agree with you when you say something is out of order.  I just don’t 
know what.  I probably will have to call Apple to ask them if they have any 
advice now, other than that, I just can’t use that app!  I did use the app when 
I first got it in 2017 on my iPhone 6 though, but just not with my Xr.  
Although, I still believe it is the app.
Now, I’m not understanding what reason would someone call the special call to 
MS through Be My Eyes, if they can’t do anything.

Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:37 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


i would then call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share because 
there is no way you should get the same results on the different channels.
Short Text should be reading things immediately. Document should be giving you 
information about positioning the phone. product should be beeping until it 
finds a bar code, scene preview should make you double tap on the picture 
button, etc.
So, something is most certainly out of order.
Richard

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7C633c05971fbe4621637e08d6bb714c96%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636902492616129219=9qG6zwn2QJ9Xe5fJyao6MewzLG36u7TAieLK72Tg19c%3D=0>
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flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On May 30, 2019, at 5:17 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi Richard,
Rather I swipe or flick, I get the exact same results.
Yes, as I said in my previous message, I do clear out the entire app switcher.
As I said in my previous message which ever channel I use, again, I get the 
exact same results.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
up to change channels, not tap.
Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
You also did not say which channel you are using.
Richard

Check out my web site at: 
www.turner42.com<https://nam02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com=02%7C01%7C%7Cb8d17c67f2124f0f5f3d08d6e55d4f2e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C636948586249432707=G5EHuVv%2BqUlpX8%2BB5yzXLv8auZ7LGVtYfkl4AlJUVo4%3D=0>
“The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies 
in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, 
from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59



The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker



On May 30, 2019, at 4:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.  
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app i

RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Lelia 

I don't really think it is my phone either.  I'm sorry to hear you are also 
having problems, but still happy to know I’m not the only one who has problems 
with this app, so thank you for letting me know!   Smile!  
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Lelia
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

HI, 
Yes, I did make sure of that when I first downloaded the app.  I also checked 
it in settings just to be for sure.  
 
Janet 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 8:32 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Did you make sure you allowed the app access to the camera?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems 
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other 
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to close the Seeing AI app 
through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk again, and go back into the 
app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app switcher, or just closes the entire 
app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Did you make sure you allowed the app access to the camera?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Lelia
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 6:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems 
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other 
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet 
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to close the Seeing AI app 
through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk again, and go back into the 
app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app switcher, or just closes the entire 
app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Lelia]

 Hi, Janet, its not your phone, it's the app.  I've had nothing but problems
with the bar code part of the app for quite a while now.  All of the other
parts of the app work except for the bar code part.  So its not only you.  

Lelia 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of janet
gross
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 5:30 PM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' 
Subject: Seeing AI App Question Please.

Hi All, 
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes
it will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything,
very seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and
the phone also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through
the Be My Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over
the phone.  Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that
might be all they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take
it to an Apple store, and let them see how it is acting because they think
something must be wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of
virus or a worm, and Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI
app is pretty strait forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my
question is can anyone tell me what settings to check to see if I have the
app set up correctly? 
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the
voice I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed
the app to use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want
to use meaning either to read a product, short text, document, etc,
sometimes, voiceover just completely stops talking, but I can still hear
some tapping sounds, so I know the phone or the app is doing something, but
I have to close the Seeing AI app through the app switcher, to get voiceover
to talk again, and go back into the app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the
app switcher, or just closes the entire app.  
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've
reset my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly
appreciated!  
Thank you all.  
Janet 

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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

i would then call Apple Accessibility and have them do a screen share because 
there is no way you should get the same results on the different channels.
Short Text should be reading things immediately. Document should be giving you 
information about positioning the phone. product should be beeping until it 
finds a bar code, scene preview should make you double tap on the picture 
button, etc.
So, something is most certainly out of order.
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On May 30, 2019, at 5:17 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi Richard,
Rather I swipe or flick, I get the exact same results.
Yes, as I said in my previous message, I do clear out the entire app switcher.
As I said in my previous message which ever channel I use, again, I get the 
exact same results.
Janet

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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
up to change channels, not tap.
Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
You also did not say which channel you are using.
Richard

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On May 30, 2019, at 4:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.  
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to close the Seeing AI app 
through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk again, and go back into the 
app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app switcher, or just closes the entire 
app.
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you all.
Janet

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RE: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[janet gross]

Hi Richard,
Rather I swipe or flick, I get the exact same results.
Yes, as I said in my previous message, I do clear out the entire app switcher.
As I said in my previous message which ever channel I use, again, I get the 
exact same results.
Janet

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 7:05 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.


When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
up to change channels, not tap.
Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
You also did not say which channel you are using.
Richard

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On May 30, 2019, at 4:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.  
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to close the Seeing AI app 
through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk again, and go back into the 
app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app switcher, or just closes the entire 
app.
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you all.
Janet

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Re: Seeing AI App Question Please.

[Richard Turner]

When you touch the area of the screen that says short text, you want to flick 
up to change channels, not tap.
Also, have you cleared everything out of the app switcher?
You also did not say which channel you are using.
Richard


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from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59


The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have 
any." -- Alice Walker


On May 30, 2019, at 4:29 PM, janet gross 
mailto:janet.harv...@outlook.com>> wrote:

Hi All,
I used to be able to use the Seeing AI app until I got my new XR phone, but 
now, for some unknown reason the app doesn't work 99.9 percent of the time.  
When I open the app and hold it over a can of soup or a box, etc, sometimes it 
will beep for a few seconds, and sometimes it just doesn't do anything, very 
seldom it will try to mumble a few words that I can't understand, and the phone 
also gets quite warm.  I've just called Microsoft support through the Be My 
Eyes app, and they told me they can't do any trouble shooting over the phone.  
Although, they did read my can of soup to me, but I guess that might be all 
they can do, not sure! LOL!  All MS could tell me was to take it to an Apple 
store, and let them see how it is acting because they think something must be 
wrong with the hardware, or I might have some kind of virus or a worm, and 
Apple needs to see this.  MS also said the Seeing AI app is pretty strait 
forward, so I shouldn't be having this problem.  So my question is can anyone 
tell me what settings to check to see if I have the app set up correctly?
I've uninstalled the app two times, and reinstalled it.  I've picked the voice 
I want to use for the app.  I've checked the language, I've allowed the app to 
use my camera.  When I double tap on which reading option I want to use meaning 
either to read a product, short text, document, etc, sometimes, voiceover just 
completely stops talking, but I can still hear some tapping sounds, so I know 
the phone or the app is doing something, but I have to close the Seeing AI app 
through the app switcher, to get voiceover to talk again, and go back into the 
app.  Sometimes the screen jumps to the app switcher, or just closes the entire 
app.
I've reset my phone up as a new phone two times since I've had it, I've reset 
my network settings as well, so any opinions will be greatly appreciated!
Thank you all.
Janet

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