RE: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Katey,

While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people who
have.  

A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
following:  

Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
cloud--especially in this kind of situation.  

1.
Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

2.
From the Settings menu, select General.

3.
Select Reset.

4.
Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

5.
Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the Rotor
until this bug is resolved.  

6.
From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

7.
Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should be
able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

8.
Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your latest
backup.  

If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
extent that it engages the bug.  

Good Luck,

Mark

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Of Katey Glass
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Hello all,

Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
90%.

IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  

So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s
so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
of the roter?  

Any help and insights would be appreciated.  

Katey

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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread Katey Glass
Mark,
Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone
with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back
in the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was
thinking of doing was exactly what you said, going to settings general
reset and the first option reset all settings.  I know that all my
accessibility settings as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my
4s will be gone (and all papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset
them -- I still have my 4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and
put back the ones I want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I
want to know is this a software or hardware bug?
Thanks again,  Katey
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hi Katey,

 While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people
 who
 have.

 A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
 following:

 Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
 I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
 cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

 1.
 Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

 2.
 From the Settings menu, select General.

 3.
 Select Reset.

 4.
 Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
 reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
 however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

 5.
 Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
 in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the
 Rotor
 until this bug is resolved.

 6.
 From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

 7.
 Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should
 be
 able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
 with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

 8.
 Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your
 latest
 backup.

 If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
 extent that it engages the bug.

 Good Luck,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Katey Glass
 Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
 Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

 Hello all,

 Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
 iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
 the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
 90%.

 IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
 wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
 which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.

 So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
 with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my
 5s
 so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
 of the roter?

 Any help and insights would be appreciated.

 Katey

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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread Katey Glass
Here's a copy of the email I sent to apple

Good Morning/Afternoon,



My name is Catherine Glass and I've been using an iPhone since the 3GS came
out with accessibility, I had a 3GS, 4s and now a 5s.  Unfortunately, I
write today to report a bug which I, and many other blind/visually impaired
VoiceOver users seem to be having with our brand new 5s units.



This bug involved the VO volume in the rotor.  I have had this selected on
my 4s and it worked as expected, raising my VO volume independently of the
system sounds from 1% to 100%.  However, after receiving my brand new 5s
this weekend, and restoring it from a backup of my 4s, the volume when I
flick up is stuck at 45%.  While I can raise and lower the volume using the
volume buttons on the side, the system sounds -- ringers and alerts are
rather loud.  If us lower the volume of sounds the VO voice gets way too
low.



I am a person who has some usable vision and I can see that when I press
the volume up button to raise the VO volume the little symbol which tells
how high the volume is almost to the top and still VO voice is somewhat low
in volume.  This is not the case with my 4s.  I can make the system sounds
rather loud and have VO speak softly.  If I put VO volume in my rotor it’s
stuck at 45%.



What should I do to fix this issue?  I have a brand new iPhone 64 Gig,
silver on the ATT network.  I got this through the ATT store.  Any
information you can provide me would be greatly appreciated.

A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax


On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:

 Mark,
 Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone
 with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back
 in the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was
 thinking of doing was exactly what you said, going to settings general
 reset and the first option reset all settings.  I know that all my
 accessibility settings as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my
 4s will be gone (and all papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset
 them -- I still have my 4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and
 put back the ones I want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I
 want to know is this a software or hardware bug?
 Thanks again,  Katey
 A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart.


 Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax


 On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

 Hi Katey,

 While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people
 who
 have.

 A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
 following:

 Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you
 begin.
 I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to
 the
 cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

 1.
 Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

 2.
 From the Settings menu, select General.

 3.
 Select Reset.

 4.
 Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
 reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
 however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

 5.
 Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
 in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the
 Rotor
 until this bug is resolved.

 6.
 From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

 7.
 Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should
 be
 able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
 with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

 8.
 Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your
 latest
 backup.

 If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
 extent that it engages the bug.

 Good Luck,

 Mark

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
 Behalf
 Of Katey Glass
 Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
 Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

 Hello all,

 Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
 iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
 the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
 90%.

 IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
 wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
 which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.

 So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone
 4S
 with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my
 5s
 so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 

Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread Alan Paganelli
Catherin, do you have change with buttons turned on in settings?  That would 
explained that volume change.  I have it turned off and I don't have the volume 
included in the rotor because I want my phone to ring at it's maximum according 
to the master/over all volume.
---

Regards,

Alan

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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Katey Glass 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:40 AM
  Subject: Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s


  Here's a copy of the email I sent to apple 



  Good Morning/Afternoon,



  My name is Catherine Glass and I've been using an iPhone since the 3GS came 
out with accessibility, I had a 3GS, 4s and now a 5s.  Unfortunately, I write 
today to report a bug which I, and many other blind/visually impaired VoiceOver 
users seem to be having with our brand new 5s units.  



  This bug involved the VO volume in the rotor.  I have had this selected on my 
4s and it worked as expected, raising my VO volume independently of the system 
sounds from 1% to 100%.  However, after receiving my brand new 5s this weekend, 
and restoring it from a backup of my 4s, the volume when I flick up is stuck at 
45%.  While I can raise and lower the volume using the volume buttons on the 
side, the system sounds -- ringers and alerts are rather loud.  If us lower the 
volume of sounds the VO voice gets way too low.  



  I am a person who has some usable vision and I can see that when I press the 
volume up button to raise the VO volume the little symbol which tells how high 
the volume is almost to the top and still VO voice is somewhat low in volume.  
This is not the case with my 4s.  I can make the system sounds rather loud and 
have VO speak softly.  If I put VO volume in my rotor it’s stuck at 45%.  



  What should I do to fix this issue?  I have a brand new iPhone 64 Gig, silver 
on the ATT network.  I got this through the ATT store.  Any information you 
can provide me would be greatly appreciated.  


  A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


  Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax



  On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:

Mark,

Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone 
with my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back in 
the rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was thinking of 
doing was exactly what you said, going to settings general reset and the 
first option reset all settings.  I know that all my accessibility settings as 
well as my battery saving tips which I put in my 4s will be gone (and all 
papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset them -- I still have my 4s 
and thus I could easily go through the menus and put back the ones I want-- 
minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I want to know is this a software 
or hardware bug?  
Thanks again,  Katey 
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax



On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:

  Hi Katey,

  While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people 
who
  have.

  A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
  following:

  Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you 
begin.
  I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to 
the
  cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

  1.
  Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

  2.
  From the Settings menu, select General.

  3.
  Select Reset.

  4.
  Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
  reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
  however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

  5.
  Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
  in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the 
Rotor
  until this bug is resolved.

  6.
  From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

  7.
  Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should 
be
  able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
  with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

  8.
  Attach

RE: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-04 Thread M. Taylor
Hi Katey,

I strongly suspect that the glitch is one that is located in the software.

If you don't mind putting all your settings back again, definitely skip step
8.

I’m not certain if restoring the phone will put VO back in the rotor.  If it
does, then just remove it.  

Restoring the phone may set the volume level to its previous setting but it
should not expose the glitch.

Mark


From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2013 5:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Mark,

Thanks for the tip.  I may wind up trying that.  But If I sync my phone with
my mac and then reset it after syncing it, wont' the volume come back in the
rotor or the volume which it was set at be there?  What I was thinking of
doing was exactly what you said, going to settings general reset and the
first option reset all settings.  I know that all my accessibility settings
as well as my battery saving tips which I put in my 4s will be gone (and all
papers as well).  I can manually go back and reset them -- I still have my
4s and thus I could easily go through the menus and put back the ones I
want-- minus the volume in the rotor.  I guess what I want to know is this a
software or hardware bug?  
Thanks again,  Katey 
A true friend is someone who reaches for your hand and touches your heart. 


Visit my FaceBook page at: www.facebook.com/kateyjax

On Mon, Nov 4, 2013 at 3:20 AM, M. Taylor mk...@ucla.edu wrote:
Hi Katey,

While I've never experienced this issue on my 5 S, I know several people who
have.

A friend of mine and I were able to resolve his problem by doing the
following:

Oh, I almost forgot.  Please be sure to backup your phone before you begin.
I strongly suggest that you backup your device to iTunes rather than to the
cloud--especially in this kind of situation.

1.
Make sure your device is not connected to your computer.

2.
From the Settings menu, select General.

3.
Select Reset.

4.
Select Reset All Settings.  Please note that this is a non-destructive
reset.  It will not erase any of your media content or apps.  It will,
however, reset many system settings including VoiceOver configuration.

5.
Once the reset is complete, make sure that the Volume option is not active
in the VoiceOver Rotor.  Never, never attempt to adjust volume via the Rotor
until this bug is resolved.

6.
From the Settings menu, select Sounds.

7.
Make certain that the change with option is set to off.  Now you should be
able to adjust VoiceOver independently of the ringer volume.  Experiment
with this to make sure you're up and running.  If you're feeling lucky:

8.
Attach your phone to the computer and use iTunes to restore from your latest
backup.

If all goes well, restoring your phone will not impact VoiceOver to the
extent that it engages the bug.

Good Luck,

Mark

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Katey Glass
Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2013 2:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com; accessible-...@freelists.org
Subject: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

Hello all,

Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my
iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in
the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above
90%.

IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and
wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s,
which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.

So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S
with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s
so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out
of the roter?

Any help and insights would be appreciated.

Katey

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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-03 Thread David Chittenden
I did the following on my iPhone 5 and it worked. This does not mean it will 
work on the 5S, which I do not have.

Remove volume from the rotor.
Be somewhere where a two-finger flick up will cause VO to do a lot of reading.
Perform the two-finger flick up and, whilst VO is talking, press the volume 
down button until no sound is heard.
Now, do another two-finger flick up. Though it cannot be heard, VO will start 
reading the screen again, the same way, and at the same speed.
Press the volume up button rapidly until VO reaches its maximum volume.
From this point, do not press the volume buttons when VO is speaking.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

 On 4 Nov 2013, at 11:22, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my 
 iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in 
 the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above 
 90%.
 
 IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and 
 wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s, 
 which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  
 
 So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S 
 with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s 
 so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out of 
 the roter?  
 
 Any help and insights would be appreciated.  
 
 Katey
 
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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-03 Thread Katey Glass
Hello,

Yes VO volume will adjust with the volume buttons, but when I lower it using 
the buttons my VO  ring volume decreases and I do have adjust with side volume 
turned to off and so the VO voice and the allerts are both low despite the 
slider telling me the ringer volume is 84%.  It didn't work like this on my 4s. 
 When the slider was at a high volume, the system and allert sounds were loud 
and VO spoke softly.  

Katey 

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 On Nov 3, 2013, at 5:40 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did the following on my iPhone 5 and it worked. This does not mean it will 
 work on the 5S, which I do not have.
 
 Remove volume from the rotor.
 Be somewhere where a two-finger flick up will cause VO to do a lot of reading.
 Perform the two-finger flick up and, whilst VO is talking, press the volume 
 down button until no sound is heard.
 Now, do another two-finger flick up. Though it cannot be heard, VO will start 
 reading the screen again, the same way, and at the same speed.
 Press the volume up button rapidly until VO reaches its maximum volume.
 From this point, do not press the volume buttons when VO is speaking.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Nov 2013, at 11:22, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my 
 iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in 
 the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above 
 90%.
 
 IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and 
 wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s, 
 which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  
 
 So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S 
 with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 5s 
 so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume out 
 of the roter?  
 
 Any help and insights would be appreciated.  
 
 Katey
 
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Re: VO volume on iPhone 5s after updating from 4s

2013-11-03 Thread David Chittenden
Please note: I did not say that the feature was working properly. I 
specifically stated the method I used to get VO to go above 35%. The fact is, 
all of the iPhone's volumes will go down to 0. Then, all of VO's volumes will 
come back up, bringing VO above 35% with the master volume. After this point, 
VO should remain in-sync with the master volume. This is merely a work-around 
until Apple repairs the volume issue for VO.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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 On 4 Nov 2013, at 11:46, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello,
 
 Yes VO volume will adjust with the volume buttons, but when I lower it using 
 the buttons my VO  ring volume decreases and I do have adjust with side 
 volume turned to off and so the VO voice and the allerts are both low despite 
 the slider telling me the ringer volume is 84%.  It didn't work like this on 
 my 4s.  When the slider was at a high volume, the system and allert sounds 
 were loud and VO spoke softly.  
 
 Katey 
 
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 On Nov 3, 2013, at 5:40 PM, David Chittenden dchitten...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I did the following on my iPhone 5 and it worked. This does not mean it will 
 work on the 5S, which I do not have.
 
 Remove volume from the rotor.
 Be somewhere where a two-finger flick up will cause VO to do a lot of 
 reading.
 Perform the two-finger flick up and, whilst VO is talking, press the volume 
 down button until no sound is heard.
 Now, do another two-finger flick up. Though it cannot be heard, VO will 
 start reading the screen again, the same way, and at the same speed.
 Press the volume up button rapidly until VO reaches its maximum volume.
 From this point, do not press the volume buttons when VO is speaking.
 
 David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
 Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
 Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On 4 Nov 2013, at 11:22, Katey Glass katey...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 Sorry for the cross post, but I have a question.  I recently updated my 
 iPhone 4S to a 5s, and I was aware of the bug where you have the volume in 
 the roter.  I knew one should't go below 35% and that it couldn't go above 
 90%.
 
 IAfter my update I still had volume in the roter, and it was on 45% and 
 wouldn't go above that!  I didn't dare go below that.  I still have my 4s, 
 which I can go all the way to 1% to 100% successfully each and every time.  
 
 So, how do I get my VO volume to go up to 100%?  Should I sync my iPhone 4S 
 with the computer with it up to 100% in the roter volume and then sync my 
 5s so that volume is at 100% and then lower it to say 75% and take volume 
 out of the roter?  
 
 Any help and insights would be appreciated.  
 
 Katey
 
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