RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Hello Richard and Everyone, Yes, this was definitely a clever subject line for a thread. Typically, we do not like to summarily mute threads unless the topic is obviously offensive, etc. Be that as it may, it may be time to change the subject line of this particular thread to more accurately reflect the scope of the conversation. As I have stated in the past, we are more than just a question and answer forum; sometimes this means that the topic of a thread may wander this way and that, for a bit; but, generally the threads stay on point, die out, or we make a request that they be closed. Remember, we're all friends here and if someone finds a subject line silly, it's not the end of the world, either, okay? I do not want anyone being flamed just because they stated a general, profanity-free opinion, all things being equal, of course. Mark -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:01 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Joe and others, This is the very first time in my years on this list that I used a silly subject line to grab folks attention. It clearly worked. I did not expect it to go off the rails. If this group was on groups.io it would be easy to mute subjects when they have either proven to be off topic or of no interest. I certainly will never post a subject line this obscure in the future. I am rethinking how much I will post on a list that is essentially unmoderated. I think I will stick to replying when I have something to ad, and only post new messages to Blind Apples group on groups.io where there is real moderators. Thanks, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new iPhone.--Joe On 9/28/21, Richard Turner wrote: > Well Mr. Ring, > > You must not have bothered to read my original post. > I started out with: > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came > yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone > 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will > post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed > to receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that. > Though, it got your attention. 😊. > > You seem to just like being critical. > > So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense > of humor. Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic > which the moderator seems also to not give a damn about. So, there you have > it. > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832792663%7CUnkn > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZKvFq0ZVzATsiFo22Sekul0SkJW4p12PXe0nNB > EUHik%3D&reserved=0 > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > richr...@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize > Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? > Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact > selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. > For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS > 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other > notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is > locked or not. > Keep in mind that now with the noti
Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
I have a 7+, which I like very much, but eventually I want to get the new 13 Pro Max once the bugs are ironed out. Thanks so much. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in > future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. > > I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. > Incidentally, I want Starlight. > > Do you have 15 on your 8? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Esther Levegnale > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me > not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to > get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther > > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > > >On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > > > >OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > >(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > >Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my > package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > > >We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless > data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… > >You know what happens when you assume?... > > > >After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple > Accessibility. > >I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with > us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us > reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process > went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, > but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. > > > >I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It > is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. > > > >I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. > The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate > holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at > one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in > landscape mode. > > > >I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. > > > >The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this > quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting > at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very > clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. > >Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the > SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about > on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. > Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE > second generation, the separation is noticeably better. > >I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite > impressed. > > > >Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup > with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know > that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can > turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific > focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes > unlocking the phone quite fast. > > > >I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a > fair amount. > > > >My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the > 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the > way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I > could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to > make sure. > >I will call them late
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Joe and others, This is the very first time in my years on this list that I used a silly subject line to grab folks attention. It clearly worked. I did not expect it to go off the rails. If this group was on groups.io it would be easy to mute subjects when they have either proven to be off topic or of no interest. I certainly will never post a subject line this obscure in the future. I am rethinking how much I will post on a list that is essentially unmoderated. I think I will stick to replying when I have something to ad, and only post new messages to Blind Apples group on groups.io where there is real moderators. Thanks, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joe Orozco Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 1:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new iPhone.--Joe On 9/28/21, Richard Turner wrote: > Well Mr. Ring, > > You must not have bothered to read my original post. > I started out with: > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came > yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone > 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will > post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed > to receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that. > Though, it got your attention. 😊. > > You seem to just like being critical. > > So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense > of humor. Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic > which the moderator seems also to not give a damn about. So, there you have > it. > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.t > urner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0063f643fe8c44161cea08d982c1f60f% > 7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637684591832792663%7CUnkn > own%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwi > LCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=ZKvFq0ZVzATsiFo22Sekul0SkJW4p12PXe0nNB > EUHik%3D&reserved=0 > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > richr...@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize > Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? > Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact > selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. > For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS > 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other > notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is > locked or not. > Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the > various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you > accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Cristobal Muñoz > Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. > If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on > my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both > devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s > still on iOS 14.8. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Would you mind kindly using more descriptive subject lines for better sorting? Thanks much for your initial impressions of the new iPhone.--Joe On 9/28/21, Richard Turner wrote: > Well Mr. Ring, > > You must not have bothered to read my original post. > I started out with: > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed to > receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that. Though, > it got your attention. 😊. > > You seem to just like being critical. > > So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense of > humor. Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic which the > moderator seems also to not give a damn about. So, there you have it. > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > richr...@gmail.com > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications > that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? > Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected > and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. > For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 > and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications > are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. > Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various > focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on > notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Cristobal Muñoz > Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m > using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person > and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone > on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you > aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Cristóbal Muñoz > Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my > business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo > (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS > release addressing it. > > Cristóbal > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made > sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the > email sound I have set for my personal account. > I norma
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
And your message qualifies for that honor as well, as Forest Gump said "Stupid is as stupid does" As Richard said, maybe read first and complain later. Richard was simply injecting a bit of fun and levity into his post. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of richr...@gmail.com Sent: September 28, 2021 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday af
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Well Mr. Ring, You must not have bothered to read my original post. I started out with: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) It was intended to get people’s attention who knew that I was supposed to receive the phone on Friday … but you don’t give a damn about that. Though, it got your attention. 😊. You seem to just like being critical. So enjoy your life of criticism while I’l enjoy my new phone and sense of humor. Sadly, people have taken the thread completely off topic which the moderator seems also to not give a damn about. So, there you have it. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of richr...@gmail.com Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.co
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Well, it must be a known bug then for certain devices just as it seems to be the case with the Wallet app crashing. I was at first a bit hesitant to upgrade, but at this point this is probably the least buggy and most stable upgrade I have done in quite a few years. I have an iPhone 11 and I have really no issues at all and I'm happy I upgraded because SIRI works so much better now. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Yes, I did all this on my own and while on the phone with Apple Accessibility. Again, the Apple guy looked it up and noted that it was a known bug. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while an
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Yes, I did all this on my own and while on the phone with Apple Accessibility. Again, the Apple guy looked it up and noted that it was a known bug. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 9:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too.
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This is just about the stupidest subject line I’ve ever seen! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come i
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And have you checked under Notifications > Mail > Customize Notifications that a sound is selected for each of your accounts? Also, double check in Notifications > Mail that banners are in fact selected and also display on lock screen if that is what you want. For some reason my mail sounds were turned off after the update to iOS 15 and I had to reenable them, but on my iPhone 11 Mail and other notifications are all coming in as they As they should whether the phone is locked or not. Keep in mind that now with the notification summary option and the various focus options this may also have an effect if maybe you accidently turned on notification summary and Mail is going into the summary. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristobal Muñoz Sent: September 28, 2021 9:28 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday,
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Again, if the phone on iOS 15 is locked, then notifications come in. If I’m using the phone however, nothing. So… if I have both phone’s on my person and they’re both locked, then I now get alerts on both devices. The iPhone on iOS 15 (that is locked). And the other iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2021 2:06 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A
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I have not ordered this phone yet. I know everyone is talking about ironing the bugs out and I certainly want to wait until that happens. Thanks everyone! I love this list! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:57 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in > future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. > > I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. > Incidentally, I want Starlight. > > Do you have 15 on your 8? > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Esther Levegnale > Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me > not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to > get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther > > > Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > > >On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > > > >OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > >(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > >Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my > package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > > >We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless > data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… > >You know what happens when you assume?... > > > >After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple > Accessibility. > >I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with > us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us > reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process > went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, > but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. > > > >I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It > is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. > > > >I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. > The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate > holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at > one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in > landscape mode. > > > >I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. > > > >The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this > quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting > at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very > clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. > >Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the > SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about > on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. > Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE > second generation, the separation is noticeably better. > >I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite > impressed. > > > >Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup > with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know > that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can > turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific > focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes > unlocking the phone quite fast. > > > >I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a > fair amount. > > > >My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the > 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the > way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I > could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to > make s
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Yes, I second that emotion! and I did mean the word emotion! Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 27, 2021, at 10:53 AM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > > But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up > rocks or tree stumps or similar things. > > We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in > the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that > moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the > full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was > born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind > which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the > skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and > so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto > at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I > graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started > University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. > Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > bentleyj1...@gmail.com > Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > > > Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? > > > > Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your > hands and face. > > > > Regards, > > > > James B > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > > > I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it > off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were > destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build > pipe bomb. > > I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that > is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when > attention mode is turned off. > > I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if > attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Mary Otten > Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus > > > > Hi richard, > > I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I > do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have > never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with > attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is > perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the > attention mode if I were you. > > Mary > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: > > > >OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > >(For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > > >Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my > package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > > >We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless > data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… > >You know what happens when you assume?... > > > >
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Sorry Cristobal, what does Apple need to address? I thought you said you aren't getting alerts and now you say you are getting them on both phones? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 10:44 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be d
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Well, guess what, friends, my notifications, at least for emails, do not work with screen locked. I have mine set for never, so keep it locked most of the time. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that litt
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Right now, I just configured the email accounts I need to know about on my business iPhone that’s still on iOS 14.8. I now get the alerts in stereo (one phone in each pocket), but it’ll work until Apple pushes out a new iOS release addressing it. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:02 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happ
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
I don't have that issue, either. I just sent my self a test email and made sure my phone was unlocked and on the home screen and my iPhone played the email sound I have set for my personal account. I normally have banners for Mail turned off and also don't have it show up in Notification Centre, but I enabled temporary banners just to test it and sent myself another message with the subject "Another Test". When it arrived the sound played and Voiceover said "Mail Sieghard Weitzel, Another Test, no content". The no content of course because I didn't actually write anything in the message body. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz Sent: September 27, 2021 9:39 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode.
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
The one major bug I’m dealing with and don’t recall reading about in the AppleVis write-up is that when the phone is unlocked, notifications are silent. I don’t know if for sighted people the banner comes up, but with VoiceOver at least, you are left oblivious as to any sort of incoming notification. In my case, I deal with time sensitive emails so it was turning into a bigtime annoyance for me. I thought it might have to do with the new focus settings in iOS 15, but after monkeying around with that for a while and other settings like having VoiceOver speak notifications, nothing changed. I finally called Apple Accessibility on Friday after the work week was done and explained my issue. Turns out, it’s a known bug and they’re “workig on it.” Not much Solace since that pretty much means wait till iOS 15.1 comes out. Anyway, he documented my call and bug report. He said the more people contact them about it, the better. So… get on it people and bug Apple about it if you’re experiencing this too. If the phone’s locked or even if I’m on a phone call, the notifications do come in. It’s just when it’s unlocked and in use that there is no sound whatsoever. Again, no idea if the banners are still popping up, but even with VoiceOver set to speak incoming notifications, it doesn’t’ help. Other than that, can’t say iOS 15 has been otherwise buggy for me. Cristóbal From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 8:13 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so may
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I find that iOS 15 has very few bugs or at least very few serious bugs. I have an iPhone 11 so I don't know if other hardware has different issues, but I have no problems with the wallet, no issues with the share sheet and I just fixed the app switcher problem where flicking left sometimes doesn't say which app you are on by turning off Reduced Motion, this can be found in Voiceover Settings > Motion From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: September 27, 2021 1:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person without a mask.” I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other LIDAR feature. I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again, but so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or want another phone for several years. Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: Yes, Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedi
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At the risk of continuing this off topic sub-thread about Sieghard's accident, there is no way boys would be prevented from doing that these days. Incidents like this are often in the news today. The reality is, parents have no control over their children's choices unless they lock them up and maintain 24/7 surveillance. I lost my sight in a similar stupid stunt which I won't go into here because the thread has gone too far off the rails. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Star Gazer Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 7:56 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Sounds like you all were just being boys as one of my coworkers says. If you've ever seen the movie October Skies, you'll know that there's no way today boys would be alloed or encouraged to do that. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks or tree stumps or similar things. We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a W
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Esther, all of us who have 15 have the bugs, but they should be addressed in future updates. So, the same would be true on a new iPhone. I want to get the 13 Minni, and plan to do so after the first of 2022. Incidentally, I want Starlight. Do you have 15 on your 8? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Esther Levegnale Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 4:17 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person without a mask.” I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other LIDAR feature. I have some settings to still go through and some
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Sounds like you all were just being boys as one of my coworkers says. If you've ever seen the movie October Skies, you'll know that there's no way today boys would be alloed or encouraged to do that. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 10:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks or tree stumps or similar things. We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start
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But that is most interesting, Seigard, and you are so valuable to this list. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 10:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks or tree stumps or similar things. We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotc
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how cool is that! I hope you enjoy your new phone. A friend of mine told me not to get it yet because all the bugs need to be ironed out in 15. I want to get the new phone that is labeled as Pro Max. Esther Sent From Esther's Amazing and Awesome iPhone 7+! > On Sep 26, 2021, at 6:38 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my > package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless > data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… > You know what happens when you assume?... > > After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. > I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us > through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us > reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process > went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, > but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. > > I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is > quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. > > I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The > case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, > a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end > and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in > landscape mode. > > I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. > > The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this > quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting > at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very > clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. > Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE > first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on > the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. > Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE > second generation, the separation is noticeably better. > I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite > impressed. > > Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with > good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that > the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it > on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus > rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes > unlocking the phone quite fast. > > I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair > amount. > > My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 > Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way > it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could > make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make > sure. > I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. > > I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to > the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. > > I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. > One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on > their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person > without a mask.” > I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t > have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other > LIDAR feature. > > I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again, but > so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or want another > phone for several years. > > Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: Yes, > Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - Wikipedia > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the
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I will also stop after this so I don’t stay off topic but, I just find your courage and determination to accomplish so much to be quite uplifting. I would have never guessed how much you have over come. Its amazing what the human spirit can do. Now, back to tech stuff. And, are we ever lucky that we live in this age of technology. I got my first iPhone around 19 months ago. I can’t imagine living without it now. James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 9:29 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks or tree stumps or similar things. We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com <mailto:bentleyj1...@gmail.com> Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everyth
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We were 16 and no political activists or terrorists so it was to blow up rocks or tree stumps or similar things. We had built dozens before that, but it's always the one which gets you in the end. Fortunately I was not one to wallow in my own misery and felt that moving on and making the best of it was what I had to do, but I also had the full support of my family and as this was still back in Germany where I was born and grew up, I was able to attend an excellent school for the blind which prepared me very well not just academically but also in terms of the skills I needed like learning braille, typing, hundreds of hours of O&M and so on. 3 Years after my accident which was in 1984 I spend 4 weeks in Toronto at a private language school to polish up on my English and in 1989 after I graduated from my Grade 13 high school I immigrated to Canada and started University where I eventually graduated with a Bachelor of Commerce degree. Anyhow, enough biographical info, I don't want to take this too far off-topic. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of bentleyj1...@gmail.com Sent: September 26, 2021 6:40 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, h
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Please excuse me but what was the pipe bomb built for? Congradulations on how well you have over come all of the damage to your hands and face. Regards, James B From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2021 6:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need an
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Hi richard, I guess afraid was not the proper word to use. I just recall that during the first year or two when this feature was first available, a lot of blind people, including me at the start, had decided that there was just no way was going to work for us and so we would not even try. But I have found that it really does work fine. That was all. I’m sure my eyes look close a lot. I’ve been told that by sighted people, I’ve never had site etc. So I’m nothing special when it comes to iContact or looking at the right place or any of that nonsense. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Mary, > I am not afraid of any feature of an electronic device. > I simply found that it wasn't necessary and for many clients when I was > working, they struggled with Face ID much more until that was turned off. > So, I still wouldn't recommend it. > And now, Apple gives you the option to turn it on if you want, rather than > sticking you with it and having to turn it off if you don't like it. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro) > >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >> >> Hi richard, >> I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And >> I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have >> never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with >> attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these >> is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of >> the attention mode if I were you. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday >>> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra >>> Blue, 256GB. >>> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a >>> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) >>> >>> Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my >>> package would be delivered today, not Monday. >>> >>> We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless >>> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… >>> You know what happens when you assume?... >>> >>> After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. >>> I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with >>> us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had >>> us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the >>> process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from >>> scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. >>> >>> I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It >>> is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. >>> >>> I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The >>> case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate >>> holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges >>> at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice >>> angle in landscape mode. >>> >>> I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. >>> >>> The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this >>> quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, >>> sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo >>> separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. >>> Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE >>> first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about >>> on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second >>> generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer >>> than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. >>> I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite >>> impressed. >>> >>> Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup >>> with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know >>> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can >>> turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific >>> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It >>> makes unlocking the phone quite fast. >>> >>> I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair >>> amount. >>> >>> My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the >>> 13 Pro be
RE: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Hey Richard, What about the sharp end of a taizer, Surely 5 volts worries you? From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Monday, 27 September 2021 12:40 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Mary, I am not afraid of any feature of an electronic device. I simply found that it wasn't necessary and for many clients when I was working, they struggled with Face ID much more until that was turned off. So, I still wouldn't recommend it. And now, Apple gives you the option to turn it on if you want, rather than sticking you with it and having to turn it off if you don't like it. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com<http://www.turner42.com> (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro) On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on
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Congrats Richard! Very glad you have your new phone! Dan Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2021, at 7:40 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > Mary, > I am not afraid of any feature of an electronic device. > I simply found that it wasn't necessary and for many clients when I was > working, they struggled with Face ID much more until that was turned off. > So, I still wouldn't recommend it. > And now, Apple gives you the option to turn it on if you want, rather than > sticking you with it and having to turn it off if you don't like it. > > > > Richard > "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." > -- Jane Wagner > > > > > > website: www.turner42.com > > (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro) > >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>> >> >> Hi richard, >> I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And >> I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have >> never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with >> attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these >> is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of >> the attention mode if I were you. >> Mary >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday >>> cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra >>> Blue, 256GB. >>> (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a >>> link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) >>> >>> Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my >>> package would be delivered today, not Monday. >>> >>> We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless >>> data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… >>> You know what happens when you assume?... >>> >>> After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. >>> I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with >>> us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had >>> us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the >>> process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from >>> scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. >>> >>> I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It >>> is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. >>> >>> I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The >>> case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate >>> holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges >>> at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice >>> angle in landscape mode. >>> >>> I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. >>> >>> The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this >>> quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, >>> sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo >>> separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. >>> Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE >>> first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about >>> on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second >>> generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer >>> than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. >>> I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite >>> impressed. >>> >>> Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup >>> with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know >>> that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can >>> turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific >>> focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It >>> makes unlocking the phone quite fast. >>> >>> I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair >>> amount. >>> >>> My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the >>> 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from >>> the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and >>> I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted >>> to make sure. >>> I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, >>> etc. >>> >>> I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used >>> to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. >>> >>> I used Super LIDAR from SuperSens
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Mary, I am not afraid of any feature of an electronic device. I simply found that it wasn't necessary and for many clients when I was working, they struggled with Face ID much more until that was turned off. So, I still wouldn't recommend it. And now, Apple gives you the option to turn it on if you want, rather than sticking you with it and having to turn it off if you don't like it. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com (Sent by a blue iPhone 13 Pro) On Sep 26, 2021, at 4:16 PM, Mary Otten wrote: Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person without a mask.” I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other LIDAR feature. I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again, but so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or w
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I had no problems with attention mode turned on, but I eventually turned it off because in addition to very bad hand injuries, both my eyes were destroyed when I was 16 which I guess is what can happen with a home-build pipe bomb. I have two prosthetic eyes and I tend to not have them in at night and that is where Face Id with attention fails whereas it works just fine when attention mode is turned off. I think some blind people also tend to close their eyes a lot and if attention mode was turned on I am pretty sure it would not unlock the iPhone. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: September 26, 2021 4:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner wrote: OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra Blue, 256GB. (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my package would be delivered today, not Monday. We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… You know what happens when you assume?... After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in landscape mode. I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE second generation, the separation is noticeably better. I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite impressed. Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes unlocking the phone quite fast. I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair amount. My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make sure. I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person without a mask.” I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other LIDAR feature. I have some setti
Re: Yes virginia, there is a Santa Claus
Hi richard, I have been using this iPhone XR since I got it almost 3 years ago now. And I do have the attention thing on for face ID, and it is no problem. I have never had sight. And I am is easily able to unlock with face ID with attention enabled as I am with the touch ID on my old 7+. Neither of these is perfect, sometimes I have to use the code. But I wouldn’t be afraid of the attention mode if I were you. Mary Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 26, 2021, at 2:40 PM, Richard Turner > wrote: > > > OK< a completely misleading subject line, but Santa Claus came yesterday > cleverly disguised as a UPS delivery person with my iPhone 13 Pro, Sierra > Blue, 256GB. > (For those who do not get the reference of the subject line, I will post a > link to a Wikipedia article at the end of this email.) > > Yes, UPS made good on the text Saturday morning letting me know that my > package would be delivered today, not Monday. > > We had just helped a friend setup her new iPhone 12 Pro with the wireless > data transfer from her old 6S, so I was sure my experience would be similar… > You know what happens when you assume?... > > After 2 hours and a couple of failed attempts, I called Apple Accessibility. > I got a wonderful woman named Regina, who was more than happy to sit with us > through this process. Of course, it failed for her too. Then, she had us > reboot both my SE 2020 and the new iPhone 13 pro and this time, the process > went very smoothly. I was afraid I would have to truly start from scratch, > but it went much faster and got everything trasnferred over. > > I think the fancy new screen may make a little difference in swiping. It is > quite responsive, but that could also be just the new chip. > > I bought an inexpensive ESR clear case for it, which fits very nicely. The > case came with a surprise; a stand. It is like the decrotive plate holders, > a plastic V with knotches near the end of each half and it hinges at one end > and when you spread the sides open, the phone sits at a nice angle in > landscape mode. > > I’m listing the observations/opinions in no particular order below. > > The Sound. Well, I was expecting better sound. I was not expecting this > quality of sound. When in that little stand that came with the case, sitting > at my desk about 2 feet in front of the phone, the stereo separation is very > clear and the sound quality is quite impressive. > Now, my SE 2020 I got last year, had significantly better sound than the SE > first generation and of course, had the stereo if you had your nose about on > the display. The 13 Pro sounds way better than the SE second generation. > Bigger, clearer, and while the phone is only slightly longer than the SE > second generation, the separation is noticeably better. > I never heard the 11 or 12 pro, so maybe they are as good, but I’m quite > impressed. > > Setting up Face ID was very easy. VoiceOver walks you through the setup with > good directions. Best yet, at the end of the setup, it lets you know that > the requires attention is turned off for VoiceOver users but you can turn it > on if you wish. I wouldn’t do that. That requires very specific focus > rather than just some of your face being seen by the camera. It makes > unlocking the phone quite fast. > > I won’t guess at battery life for at least a week after I’ve used it a fair > amount. > > My wife wathced a video on inserting the Nano SIM from my SE 2020 into the 13 > Pro because she could not get it to fit. It goes in upside down from the way > it was in the SE 2020. Then, it works fine. I am on Xfinity, and I could > make calls, receive calls, etc., once the Sim was in and I rebooted to make > sure. > I will call them later to see if they need anything like the IMEI number, etc. > > I’m having a few issues with mBraille but that is probably me getting used to > the larger screen, but I’m not sure yet. > > I used Super LIDAR from SuperSense briefly this morning. Very promising. > One thing it does that might be nice for low-vision/blind going somewhere on > their own, if it sees a person without a mask, it will tell you “person > without a mask.” > I think I’d want a lanyard, harness, something that would make it so I don’t > have to hold the phone pointed ahead of me to use that feature, or any other > LIDAR feature. > > I have some settings to still go through and some apps to log into again, but > so far, I really like the phone a lot and know I won’t need or want another > phone for several years. > > Now, if you don’t know about Virginia, read the article at Wikipedia: Yes, > Virginia, there is a Santa Claus - Wikipedia > > Richard > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” > – Jane Wagner > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any que
