Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi, the company is Future System Solutions. The link is below. Also note that Casper is completely screen reader friendly, although admittedly I've mainly used Window-Eyes with it. http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/ -- Raul A. Gallegos Leonard, I know you're outside my door. I can hear you metabolizing oxygen and expelling carbon dioxide. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/7/2014 1:03 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Since I'm interested in Casper as a tool to help me back up my iTunes to an external hard drive, can you tell me alittle more about it, or point me to a websource you like? Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 7:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone Hi, the question of backup can be split many different ways. In the end it's up to the individual to decide what's best for him/her. Jonathan brings up some good points and I agree with his reasons and I also use iTunes as my main backup source. Yes, the risk of my hard drive crashing will make that a waste, but life is all about decision making and risks. Recently I was helping out a consumer choosing between online backup solutions with companies like Carbonite and/or Mozy VS home backups like with Casper and a second internal or external hard drive. In the end she ended up going with the Casper solution and a second drive because the quick and ease and easy access of getting a lost file ore recovering from a crashed hard drive was more important to her than the superior reliability and the need to trust an online company like Carbonite to keep your data safe. Not only that, but her computer skills are such that navigating the Carbonite interface was problematic for her whereas using the Casper solution was very easy and she could understand it better. She purchased an external AC powered Western Digital 2 tb hard drive and we have Casper set up so when she connects it to the pc, it automatically runs, performs the backup, and safely removes the drive from the operating system. Then when it's done, she puts it away in a fireproof safe which she has. She's a lawyer and keeping control of her documents is key to her. So, while online backup methods have their merits, so do home solutions. -- Raul A. Gallegos Dear Smartphone, Do you realize that blinking every 5 seconds and reminding me once a minute to charge you will only make you die quicker? - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/2/2014 8:47 PM, Lori Dent wrote: Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Thanks. This looks very cool. I've looked at their site. Is a complete disk image the only option, or can one simply back up data if that's all one wants to do? Certainly, I'd like a backup of the whole disc, but Would I need to do that every time I wanted to just keep a backup of newer data? Say, I delete an important Word document unintentionally, I just want to go get that file and not re-image my whole disc. I'm new to all this, so please excuse if naïve. Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Hi, the company is Future System Solutions. The link is below. Also note that Casper is completely screen reader friendly, although admittedly I've mainly used Window-Eyes with it. http://www.fssdev.com/products/casper/ -- Raul A. Gallegos Leonard, I know you're outside my door. I can hear you metabolizing oxygen and expelling carbon dioxide. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/7/2014 1:03 PM, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. wrote: Since I'm interested in Casper as a tool to help me back up my iTunes to an external hard drive, can you tell me alittle more about it, or point me to a websource you like? Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 7:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone Hi, the question of backup can be split many different ways. In the end it's up to the individual to decide what's best for him/her. Jonathan brings up some good points and I agree with his reasons and I also use iTunes as my main backup source. Yes, the risk of my hard drive crashing will make that a waste, but life is all about decision making and risks. Recently I was helping out a consumer choosing between online backup solutions with companies like Carbonite and/or Mozy VS home backups like with Casper and a second internal or external hard drive. In the end she ended up going with the Casper solution and a second drive because the quick and ease and easy access of getting a lost file ore recovering from a crashed hard drive was more important to her than the superior reliability and the need to trust an online company like Carbonite to keep your data safe. Not only that, but her computer skills are such that navigating the Carbonite interface was problematic for her whereas using the Casper solution was very easy and she could understand it better. She purchased an external AC powered Western Digital 2 tb hard drive and we have Casper set up so when she connects it to the pc, it automatically runs, performs the backup, and safely removes the drive from the operating system. Then when it's done, she puts it away in a fireproof safe which she has. She's a lawyer and keeping control of her documents is key to her. So, while online backup methods have their merits, so do home solutions. -- Raul A. Gallegos Dear Smartphone, Do you realize that blinking every 5 seconds and reminding me once a minute to charge you will only make you die quicker? - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/2/2014 8:47 PM, Lori Dent wrote: Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi, the question of backup can be split many different ways. In the end it's up to the individual to decide what's best for him/her. Jonathan brings up some good points and I agree with his reasons and I also use iTunes as my main backup source. Yes, the risk of my hard drive crashing will make that a waste, but life is all about decision making and risks. Recently I was helping out a consumer choosing between online backup solutions with companies like Carbonite and/or Mozy VS home backups like with Casper and a second internal or external hard drive. In the end she ended up going with the Casper solution and a second drive because the quick and ease and easy access of getting a lost file ore recovering from a crashed hard drive was more important to her than the superior reliability and the need to trust an online company like Carbonite to keep your data safe. Not only that, but her computer skills are such that navigating the Carbonite interface was problematic for her whereas using the Casper solution was very easy and she could understand it better. She purchased an external AC powered Western Digital 2 tb hard drive and we have Casper set up so when she connects it to the pc, it automatically runs, performs the backup, and safely removes the drive from the operating system. Then when it's done, she puts it away in a fireproof safe which she has. She's a lawyer and keeping control of her documents is key to her. So, while online backup methods have their merits, so do home solutions. -- Raul A. Gallegos Dear Smartphone, Do you realize that blinking every 5 seconds and reminding me once a minute to charge you will only make you die quicker? - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/2/2014 8:47 PM, Lori Dent wrote: Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: best way to back up ones I phone
Since I'm interested in Casper as a tool to help me back up my iTunes to an external hard drive, can you tell me alittle more about it, or point me to a websource you like? Thanks. Keith -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Raul A. Gallegos Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2014 7:42 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone Hi, the question of backup can be split many different ways. In the end it's up to the individual to decide what's best for him/her. Jonathan brings up some good points and I agree with his reasons and I also use iTunes as my main backup source. Yes, the risk of my hard drive crashing will make that a waste, but life is all about decision making and risks. Recently I was helping out a consumer choosing between online backup solutions with companies like Carbonite and/or Mozy VS home backups like with Casper and a second internal or external hard drive. In the end she ended up going with the Casper solution and a second drive because the quick and ease and easy access of getting a lost file ore recovering from a crashed hard drive was more important to her than the superior reliability and the need to trust an online company like Carbonite to keep your data safe. Not only that, but her computer skills are such that navigating the Carbonite interface was problematic for her whereas using the Casper solution was very easy and she could understand it better. She purchased an external AC powered Western Digital 2 tb hard drive and we have Casper set up so when she connects it to the pc, it automatically runs, performs the backup, and safely removes the drive from the operating system. Then when it's done, she puts it away in a fireproof safe which she has. She's a lawyer and keeping control of her documents is key to her. So, while online backup methods have their merits, so do home solutions. -- Raul A. Gallegos Dear Smartphone, Do you realize that blinking every 5 seconds and reminding me once a minute to charge you will only make you die quicker? - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user ID: rau47 On 5/2/2014 8:47 PM, Lori Dent wrote: Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi Brian, I don't know for sure because I've not had to try. But if you were to uncheck the checkbox for encryption, go into Preferences and delete all your existing backups, check the checkbox again and give it a fresh password, that might work. There may be some security measure preventing this though, perhaps a Google will give us the answer. Jonathan. Sent from my iPhone On 4/05/2014, at 12:47 pm, brian albriton autoharp...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Jonathan. Can I create a new encrypted backup if I have forgotten the password? This happened to me some time ago and I wasn't able to start a fresh backup. All the best, Brian On May 2, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi, I would have to disagree with those who say the answer to this question is a matter of opinion. The question asked specifically about the best means of backing up. Not the easiest or the most convenient, but the best. There is in my view only one answer to the question when it's phrased this way, and it is this. The best way to back up your device is with an encrypted backup in iTunes. Here's why. An encrypted backup is the only way of backing up passwords and other sensitive data. If you restore from an iCloud backup and log into apps like Skype, or similar apps requiring you to sign in, you'll need to sign in again. Encrypt your backup on iTunes and you avoid this hassle. The point has already been made in this thread about the desirability of an iTunes backup if you keep old copies of apps for accessibility reasons. But there's more to it. Your apps are not backed up to iCloud at all, and when you restore using this method, the latest version of the app is downloaded. But what if you have an app that has been pulled from the store, either by Apple, or by the developer because they no longer wish to support it? The answer is, restore from iCloud and you're just out of luck. You've lost that app for good. iCloud backups don't back up your music. If all your music comes from the iTunes Store, or you have iTunes Match, this is no problem at all, but it's a consideration if you spent lots of time initially syncing music from your computer. You can of course sync with your computer after restoring from an iCloud backup, but if you have to do that, you may as well do the whole thing from iTunes and enjoy the benefits. Personally, I use both methods just for safety's sake. My devices back up to iCloud every night, but when I connect to iTunes, I manually initiate an encrypted backup. That way, if I'm travelling without my computer and need to get up and running again, I can, but iTunes is my first restore preference for the above reasons. So it's certainly possible to use both. No doubt iCloud is the most convenient from a set it and forget it point of view. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please
RE: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi Lori, Go to the same window as you go to for the encrypted backup. Just before you get to the backup to your computer check box you will see a box that says, backup to iCloud. Check that box and proceed to start the backup. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lori Dent Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:39 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone Hi Ron, I will do both backing up to my computer and to I Cloud. But How do I back up my phone to icloud? Thanks. Loriand the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi, Jonathan. Can I create a new encrypted backup if I have forgotten the password? This happened to me some time ago and I wasn't able to start a fresh backup. All the best, Brian On May 2, 2014, at 6:02 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi, I would have to disagree with those who say the answer to this question is a matter of opinion. The question asked specifically about the best means of backing up. Not the easiest or the most convenient, but the best. There is in my view only one answer to the question when it's phrased this way, and it is this. The best way to back up your device is with an encrypted backup in iTunes. Here's why. An encrypted backup is the only way of backing up passwords and other sensitive data. If you restore from an iCloud backup and log into apps like Skype, or similar apps requiring you to sign in, you'll need to sign in again. Encrypt your backup on iTunes and you avoid this hassle. The point has already been made in this thread about the desirability of an iTunes backup if you keep old copies of apps for accessibility reasons. But there's more to it. Your apps are not backed up to iCloud at all, and when you restore using this method, the latest version of the app is downloaded. But what if you have an app that has been pulled from the store, either by Apple, or by the developer because they no longer wish to support it? The answer is, restore from iCloud and you're just out of luck. You've lost that app for good. iCloud backups don't back up your music. If all your music comes from the iTunes Store, or you have iTunes Match, this is no problem at all, but it's a consideration if you spent lots of time initially syncing music from your computer. You can of course sync with your computer after restoring from an iCloud backup, but if you have to do that, you may as well do the whole thing from iTunes and enjoy the benefits. Personally, I use both methods just for safety's sake. My devices back up to iCloud every night, but when I connect to iTunes, I manually initiate an encrypted backup. That way, if I'm travelling without my computer and need to get up and running again, I can, but iTunes is my first restore preference for the above reasons. So it's certainly possible to use both. No doubt iCloud is the most convenient from a set it and forget it point of view. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
The best way to backup you're iPhone is to back it up toiCloud. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote: Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
The best way to back up your iPhone is the way that provides you with the opportunity to restore everything you need if your phone is lost or has to be reactivated and reset to default settings. iCloud may be the easiest way to backup but I don't believe you can backup your Apps to iCloud which could be an issue if you're not running the latest version of an app. Also, you only get 5GB free with iCloud so how much you can backup without paying could be limited. I prefer backing up my iPhone 5 to an external hard drive using iTunes and making sure all my Apps and data are on the computer as well. Different strokes for different folks. Alan Lemly Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 12:11 PM, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: The best way to backup you're iPhone is to back it up toiCloud. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote: Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello Lori, It's a matter of opinion but for the most flexibility in terms of rolling back to a previous version of an app which may have been broken in the most current version, backing up to a computer is best. Further, if you can keep your iTunes library on an external hard drive, you will be better protected against losing your library in case the computer ever goes belly-up. Also, keeping your Library on an external drive allows you the freedom of having multiple computers to have full access to your library. At best, however, the iTunes library is an absolute mess in its implementation so do not be disheartened if you find it difficult to grasp the finer points of iTunes back-end data management. iTunes was not originally designed to do what it now does; however, by the time Apple realized this, it was far too late to do a complete redesign for fear of alienating hundreds of thousands of customers. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lori Dent Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: best way to back up ones I phone Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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I have mine set to automatically sync to iCloud. The backup is automatically performed overnight. If you backup with WI-FI your computer has to be on and your iPhone has to be connected to your computer with a data cable. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Lori Dent To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: best way to back up ones I phone Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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The least expensive, quickest, and complete way to back up one's iPhone is with iTunes. iCloud gives 5 GB storage. Anything more requires annual payment. iTunes, on the other hand, can utilise whatever storage is available on one's computer. Recovering from iTunes takes significantly less time than recovering from iCloud. After all, USB 2 or USB 3 is very significantly faster than a WIFI internet connection. That said, iCloud permits automatic back up every 24 hours without the user ever having to do anything after the initial set up. Finally, iTunes provides much more flexibility than iCloud around what to back up, what to restore to the iPhone, and backing up / restoring apps that are no longer available on the App Store. David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 3 May 2014, at 5:11, Isaac Hebert isaac.heb...@gmail.com wrote: The best way to backup you're iPhone is to back it up toiCloud. Sent from my iPhone On May 2, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote: Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hello Alan, You are correct, of course. However, one thing I'd like to add is that, generally speaking, it only takes a few minutes to back up a device to a computer. I have a 64GB iPhone 5 S. I sync it to my iTunes Library on/through a six-year-old Windows 7 Desktop computer. Generally speaking, it takes less than 10 minutes to either sync new purchases and/or tracks to the Library. This includes making a backup at the same time. At last count, I have over 2000 music tracks on my iPhone along with 40 episodes of television situation comedies, 4 full-length movies, over 100 applications, and much, much more. Now, were I to wipe the phone and attempt to restore all of this data back to the phone, it could take upwards of an hour or so but I've only needed to do this when initializing a new device. Just an F Y I. Mark From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Paganelli Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 1:00 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone I have mine set to automatically sync to iCloud. The backup is automatically performed overnight. If you backup with WI-FI your computer has to be on and your iPhone has to be connected to your computer with a data cable. Regards, Alan I told my psychiatrist that everyone hates me. He said I was being ridiculous - everyone hasn't met me yet. Please click on: HTTP://WWW.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/ There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard. The albums in Technics format formerly on my website are still available upon request. Thanks for listening! - Original Message - From: Lori Dent To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 10:10 AM Subject: best way to back up ones I phone Hi all, Which way is the best way to back up everything on my I phone either backing the phone up with the computer with itunes or with icloud? Thanks. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi, I would have to disagree with those who say the answer to this question is a matter of opinion. The question asked specifically about the best means of backing up. Not the easiest or the most convenient, but the best. There is in my view only one answer to the question when it's phrased this way, and it is this. The best way to back up your device is with an encrypted backup in iTunes. Here's why. An encrypted backup is the only way of backing up passwords and other sensitive data. If you restore from an iCloud backup and log into apps like Skype, or similar apps requiring you to sign in, you'll need to sign in again. Encrypt your backup on iTunes and you avoid this hassle. The point has already been made in this thread about the desirability of an iTunes backup if you keep old copies of apps for accessibility reasons. But there's more to it. Your apps are not backed up to iCloud at all, and when you restore using this method, the latest version of the app is downloaded. But what if you have an app that has been pulled from the store, either by Apple, or by the developer because they no longer wish to support it? The answer is, restore from iCloud and you're just out of luck. You've lost that app for good. iCloud backups don't back up your music. If all your music comes from the iTunes Store, or you have iTunes Match, this is no problem at all, but it's a consideration if you spent lots of time initially syncing music from your computer. You can of course sync with your computer after restoring from an iCloud backup, but if you have to do that, you may as well do the whole thing from iTunes and enjoy the benefits. Personally, I use both methods just for safety's sake. My devices back up to iCloud every night, but when I connect to iTunes, I manually initiate an encrypted backup. That way, if I'm travelling without my computer and need to get up and running again, I can, but iTunes is my first restore preference for the above reasons. So it's certainly possible to use both. No doubt iCloud is the most convenient from a set it and forget it point of view. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Lori. As I said in my original post on this, it's really easy for you to back up both ways, so you have an iCloud backup just in case. That said, not backing up a computer is incredibly high risk. Just as we need to back up our phones, we need to be doing regular computer backups as well in a way that makes it easy to restore if that becomes necessary. No, iCloud backups are not a complete backup of your phone as described previously. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/05/2014, at 1:47 pm, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote: Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Jonathan, Okay, I can go ahead and do a iCloud back up but how do I do a back up with iTunes? I know next to nothing about iTunes and I would need step by step directions on how to do the back up on my computer with i Tunes. Can you or someone help me with this? I would very much appreciate it. Thanks and take care. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Lori, connect the device to iTunes, locate the screen for your device, check the encrypt backup option and give it a password. Once you've done that, you in future can go to the File Menu, choose your device's name from the device's submenu, then choose backup. If you use iTunes for Windows, you may find the December 2012 and January 2013 FSCasts helpful in getting familiar with iTunes. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 3/05/2014, at 2:14 pm, Lori Dent loriand...@ohiohills.com wrote: Hi Jonathan, Okay, I can go ahead and do a iCloud back up but how do I do a back up with iTunes? I know next to nothing about iTunes and I would need step by step directions on how to do the back up on my computer with i Tunes. Can you or someone help me with this? I would very much appreciate it. Thanks and take care. Lori and the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
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Hi Lori, If your computer crashes, it is unlikely that your phone will crash at the same time. You can always backup your phone to your computer again when it is back in shape. An iCloud backup is always good and I always do the encrypted backup to iTunes which does backup everything. If a newer version of an app is no longer accessible and you kept the old version for that reason, restoring from iCloud will give you back the latest version of the app which is no longer accessible. The iCloud does not backup everything as Jonathan explained so it is much safer to do both. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Lori Dent Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 9:48 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: best way to back up ones I phone Hi Johnithon and all, Okay, if I decided to back up everything on my phone through my computer and iTunes, and what happens if my computer crashes and burns then backing everything on my phone to my computer and iTunes was a waste? I don't have an exturnal hard drive to make sure all my backing up my Iphone is on the hard drive and on the computer. So then what? I thought iCloud backed up and stores everything in ones IPhone. . Thanks. Lori and the Gipper I don't want to lose any of my stuff I have on my iphone. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: best way to back up ones I phone
Hi Ron, I will do both backing up to my computer and to I Cloud. But How do I back up my phone to icloud? Thanks. Loriand the Gipper -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
