RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Don & Cher]

Thanks for the sanity check everyone ;)  I am another one who wishes it were 
there in iBook books!

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

Hi Cher,

 

I just tried it myself with the same app.  It doesn't work on my iPhone either. 
 Apparently it is only available in an edit box.  How strange.


Regards,

 

Alan

 

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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 

From: Don  <mailto:oneagleswin...@bellsouth.net> & Cher 

To: viphone@googlegroups.com 

Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:43 AM

Subject: RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

Line Line is selected in the rotor, but I can't locate it when using iBooks- 
and have not seen it in other apps either. Is there something else which needs 
to be selected or whatever? Thanks.

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.

Alan

 

Sent from my iPad Air


On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  wrote:

Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with PDF 
files.

Thanks for asking.

This is excellent.

Richard

 


"There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
nothing." - Aristotle


On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:

In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
ibook books?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:





Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line by 
line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
"setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to go 
down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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nothing." - Aristotle

 

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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Richard Turner]

It only works with PDF files.
It is too bad they didn't add it for iBooks.
Richard


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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:13 AM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> Hi Richard,
> Are you also getting lines and your rotor with iBooks, as in those purchased 
> from the iBookstore? I don't have any PDF files in iBooks to test with just 
> now, so I haven't checked there. But I'm definitely not getting lines in the 
> purchased books.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
>> PDF files.
>> Thanks for asking.
>> This is excellent.
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
>> nothing." - Aristotle
>> 
>>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
>>> 
>>> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
>>> ibook books?
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Christina
>>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
 
 Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go 
 line by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he 
 "lines "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the 
 ability to go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
 Mary
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver 
> cursor doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to 
> this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to 
> the right and go through the various results instead of having to slide 
> your finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are 
> improvements in iOS 7.1.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Mary Otten]

I don't think it is supposed to move by flicking. I wish it did like it used 
to. But it doesn't, at least not for me.
Mary


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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
> wrote:
> 
> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
> earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
>  
> 
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> nothing." - Aristotle
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Mary Otten]

Hi Richard,
Are you also getting lines and your rotor with iBooks, as in those purchased 
from the iBookstore? I don't have any PDF files in iBooks to test with just 
now, so I haven't checked there. But I'm definitely not getting lines in the 
purchased books.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 20, 2014, at 10:03 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
> 
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
>> 
>> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
>> ibook books?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> 
>> Christina
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
>>> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
>>> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability 
>>> to go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
>>> Mary
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
 wrote:
 
 A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
 If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver 
 cursor doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to 
 this.
 Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to 
 the right and go through the various results instead of having to slide 
 your finger down the screen.
 You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
 line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
 I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements 
 in iOS 7.1.
 Richard
 
 
 "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Mary Otten]

Richard,
Are you saying that "line" is available in your rotor when you are in iBooks? 
Such is not the case for me. I wish it were. This is on my iPad or my iPhone.
Mary


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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 6:09 PM, "Richard Turner"  
> wrote:
> 
> If you turn the rotor to lines, then yes, flicking up or down with one finger 
> will move line by line.
> Whether it is clunky or not probably depends some on the length of the book, 
> what resources are available to the ap, etc.
>  
> Richard
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Don & Cher
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 3:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
> earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>  
> 
> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
>  
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Mary Otten]

Alan,
Are you saying you have lines in the rotor and it shows up when you have iBooks 
open? I have lines in my rotor. But I don't see that in the rotor when I am in 
iBooks. I wonder why. I have the latest iOS. This is true for my iPhone and my 
iPad mini.
Mary


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> On Mar 21, 2014, at 9:50 AM, Alan Paganelli  
> wrote:
> 
> You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
> finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in 
>> iBooks earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>>  
>> Cher
>>  
>>  
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>>  
>> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
>> PDF files.
>> Thanks for asking.
>> This is excellent.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
>> nothing." - Aristotle
>> 
>> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
>> 
>> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
>> ibook books?
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>>  
>> Christina
>> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>>  
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
>> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
>> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
>> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
>> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
>> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
>> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
>> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
>> finger down the screen.
>> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
>> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
>> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements 
>> in iOS 7.1.
>> Richard
>>  
>> 
>> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
>> nothing." - Aristotle
>>  
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Alan Paganelli]

Hi Cher,

I just tried it myself with the same app.  It doesn't work on my iPhone either. 
 Apparently it is only available in an edit box.  How strange.

Regards,

Alan

Please click on: 
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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Don & Cher 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 11:43 AM
  Subject: RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1


  Line Line is selected in the rotor, but I can't locate it when using iBooks- 
and have not seen it in other apps either. Is there something else which needs 
to be selected or whatever? Thanks.

  Cher

   

   

  From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:50 PM
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com
  Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

   

  You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.

  Alan

   

  Sent from my iPad Air


  On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
wrote:

Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in 
iBooks earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
    Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
PDF files.

Thanks for asking.

This is excellent.

Richard

 


"There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
nothing." - Aristotle


On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:

  In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just 
on ibook books?

   

  Thanks,

   

   

  Christina

  Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

   

  On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:






  Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go 
line by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he 
"lines "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the 
ability to go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
  Mary


  Sent from my iPhone


  On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver 
cursor doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick 
to the right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
finger down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you 
that line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are 
improvements in iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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be
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Peter Durieux]

Isn't supported in iBooks. 

Hth

With kind regards,

-Peter Durieux

> Op 24-mrt.-2014 om 19:43 heeft "Don & Cher"  
> het volgende geschreven:
> 
> Line Line is selected in the rotor, but I can't locate it when using iBooks- 
> and have not seen it in other apps either. Is there something else which 
> needs to be selected or whatever? Thanks.
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
> finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.
> 
> Alan
>  
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
> wrote:
> 
> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
> earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
>  
> 
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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Richard Turner]

Well, it looks like it may only work with PDF files in iBooks.
I just tried a purchased book and two public Domain books and neither one had 
lines available in the rotor.
There are Links and Notes available in the rotor, but not lines.
When I open a PDF, then lines shows up as a rotor option.
Richard


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> On Mar 24, 2014, at 11:43 AM, "Don & Cher"  
> wrote:
> 
> Line Line is selected in the rotor, but I can't locate it when using iBooks- 
> and have not seen it in other apps either. Is there something else which 
> needs to be selected or whatever? Thanks.
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Alan Paganelli
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:50 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
> finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.
> 
> Alan
>  
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
> wrote:
> 
> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
> earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
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RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Don & Cher]

Line Line is selected in the rotor, but I can't locate it when using iBooks- 
and have not seen it in other apps either. Is there something else which needs 
to be selected or whatever? Thanks.

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Alan Paganelli
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:50 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.

Alan

 

Sent from my iPad Air


On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  wrote:

Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with PDF 
files.

Thanks for asking.

This is excellent.

Richard

 


"There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
nothing." - Aristotle


On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:

In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
ibook books?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:






Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line by 
line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
"setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to go 
down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Alan Paganelli]

You can have lines set in the rotor as well and then just flick down with a 
finger to read the lines or to select in an edit box.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Mar 20, 2014, at 3:16 PM, "Don & Cher"  
> wrote:
> 
> Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
> earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky.
>  
> Cher
>  
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1
>  
> I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with 
> PDF files.
> Thanks for asking.
> This is excellent.
> Richard
>  
> 
> "There is only one way to avoid criticism: do nothing, say nothing, and be
> nothing." - Aristotle
> 
> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
>  
> Thanks,
>  
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
> 
> 
> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
>  
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Re: iOS 7.1

[Gmail]

I couldn't, since iOS 7 came out, swipe right from the to field and have 
VoiceOver speak the names of the contacts that showed up, so I'm glad to hear 
that that's been fixed in iOS 7.1.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:08 PM, Christopher J Chaltain  
> wrote:
> 
> I could always flick right through the matching results in my contacts once I 
> started filling in the to field of an email message. I never had to slide my 
> finger down the screen to hear the list of matching results. I do like 7.1, 
> but I don't find this to be anything new.
> 
>> On 3/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
>> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
>> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
>> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
>> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
>> finger down the screen.
>> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
>> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
>> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements 
>> in iOS 7.1.
>> Richard
>> 
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RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Richard Turner]

If you turn the rotor to lines, then yes, flicking up or down with one finger 
will move line by line.

Whether it is clunky or not probably depends some on the length of the book, 
what resources are available to the ap, etc.

 

Richard

 

 

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Don & Cher
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky. 

 

Cher

 

 

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To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with PDF 
files.

Thanks for asking.

This is excellent.

Richard

 


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On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C." mailto:blindmaclo...@gmail.com> > wrote:

In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
ibook books?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten mailto:motte...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line by 
line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
"setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to go 
down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner mailto:richard.turne...@gmail.com> > wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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RE: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Don & Cher]

Is it also supposed to move up or down a line with a flick now? Was in iBooks 
earlier today and navigation still seemed clunky. 

 

Cher

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2014 1:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

 

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with PDF 
files.

Thanks for asking.

This is excellent.

Richard

 


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nothing." - Aristotle


On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:

In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
ibook books?

 

Thanks,

 

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:





Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line by 
line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
"setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to go 
down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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Re: line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Richard Turner]

I am very glad to report that lines are in the rotor when using iBooks with PDF 
files.
Thanks for asking.
This is excellent.
Richard


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> On Mar 20, 2014, at 9:18 AM, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
> ibook books?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 7:48 PM, Mary Otten  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
>> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
>> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
>> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
>> Mary
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
>>> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver 
>>> cursor doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to 
>>> this.
>>> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to 
>>> the right and go through the various results instead of having to slide 
>>> your finger down the screen.
>>> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
>>> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
>>> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements 
>>> in iOS 7.1.
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
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line by line was Re: iOS 7.1

[Christina C.]

In iBooks, does this line by line also work on PDF documents now or just on 
ibook books?

Thanks,


Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

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> Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line 
> by line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
> "setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to 
> go down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
> Mary
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
>> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
>> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
>> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
>> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
>> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
>> finger down the screen.
>> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
>> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
>> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements 
>> in iOS 7.1.
>> Richard
>> 
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Re: iOS 7.1

[Mary Otten]

Thanks, Richard, for pointing out the restoration of the ability to go line by 
line with your finger in iBooks. I checked the rotor to see if he "lines 
"setting had been restored. And it had not. So I just figured the ability to go 
down the screen also had not been. Very nice surprise.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
> If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
> doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.
> Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
> right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your 
> finger down the screen.
> You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that 
> line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
> I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
> iOS 7.1.
> Richard
> 
> 
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RE: iOS 7.1

[Ron Pelletier]

I agree. Although I could slide down, I didn’t have to. I always flicked 
through the fields

 

Ron & Danvers

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Christopher J Chaltain
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1

 

I could always flick right through the matching results in my contacts once I 
started filling in the to field of an email message. I never had to slide my 
finger down the screen to hear the list of matching results. I do like 7.1, but 
I don't find this to be anything new.

On 3/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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RE: iOS 7.1

[Richard Turner]

You are lucky then.

One of the issues during the 7.0.x releases was that the flicking often did not 
work in that situation.

 

I’m not the only one that experienced this.

Richard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:08 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1

 

I could always flick right through the matching results in my contacts once I 
started filling in the to field of an email message. I never had to slide my 
finger down the screen to hear the list of matching results. I do like 7.1, but 
I don't find this to be anything new.

On 3/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.

If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver cursor 
doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior to this.

Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick to the 
right and go through the various results instead of having to slide your finger 
down the screen.

You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you that line, 
which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.

I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are improvements in 
iOS 7.1.

Richard

 


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Re: iOS 7.1

[Christopher J Chaltain]

I could always flick right through the matching results in my contacts 
once I started filling in the to field of an email message. I never had 
to slide my finger down the screen to hear the list of matching results. 
I do like 7.1, but I don't find this to be anything new.


On 3/19/2014 8:36 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

A couple good things about iOS 7.1.
If you touch the message body while composing an Email, the VoiceOver 
cursor doesn't immediately move, which was a big issue in iOS 7 prior 
to this.
Also, If you start filling in the to field in an Email, you can flick 
to the right and go through the various results instead of having to 
slide your finger down the screen.
You can now put your finger on a line in iBooks and have it read you 
that line, which did not work in iOS 7 and perhaps even earlier.
I just thought I'd mention a few things I've noticed that are 
improvements in iOS 7.1.

Richard


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Re: iOS 7.1 Different with Inbound Calls While on the Phone?

[Joseph Hudson]

Hello Simon, when an inbound call comes in and you're on another call if you 
swipe to the button that says hold call answer or Holden except, that is how 
you holding the answer call if you were on a call and you've Artie swipe to the 
whole call answer, had to keypad, then swipe two year swap button

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> On Mar 16, 2014, at 9:51 PM, simon wong  wrote:
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> I don't even know how to switch to another call on an iPhone. How do you do 
> this?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 16, 2014, at 10:49 PM, "Alan Lemly"  wrote:
>> 
>> I upgraded from iOS 6.1.1 to 7.1 earlier in the week. Tonight I received my 
>> first phone call while on another call since the upgrade. I didn't get any 
>> kind of beep or anything audible for the new call which is what I thought it 
>> did under my previous version. I just got a notification with words about 
>> the missed call in my notification area. Has something changed with iOS 7.1 
>> and do I need to go change one of my phone settings to make this work as it 
>> did previously?
>>  
>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>>  
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Amir Souri]

hi every one
i have a great news for every one that has a problem with iOS7.1 updating!!!
since the relase of iOS7.1 in 10/3/2014 my iphone 4s was in checking update 
and it was still 47 %
so i really got crazy
once i turned off and on my iphone and again going to setting for update, 
the update went normally and finished.


On Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:31:42 AM UTC+3:30, Scott Rumery wrote:
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> Hello I can’t seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
> update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
> that this may be the cause of my trouble. 
>
> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
> then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
> been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every 
> time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the 
> problem? 
>
> Scott Rumery

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Re: iOS 7.1 Different with Inbound Calls While on the Phone?

[simon wong]

I don't even know how to switch to another call on an iPhone. How do you do 
this?

Sent from my iPhone

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> first phone call while on another call since the upgrade. I didn't get any 
> kind of beep or anything audible for the new call which is what I thought it 
> did under my previous version. I just got a notification with words about the 
> missed call in my notification area. Has something changed with iOS 7.1 and 
> do I need to go change one of my phone settings to make this work as it did 
> previously?
>  
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>  
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RE: IOS 7.1

[Alex Stone]

I would say the same about my 5.

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Subject: Re: IOS 7.1

I'm not sure I've seen much of a fuss about IOS 7.1 myself, and obviously
not everyone has to get something out of it for it to be worthwhile for
someone else. For me, it's noticeably snappier on my 4S than IOS 7.0.6 was.
I'm also glad it doesn't say screen lock throughout the day. These are both
big deals for me.

On 03/12/2014 09:53 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:
> I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the
fuss is about.
>
> Alan
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> Sent from my iPad Air
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>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer 
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as
I really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.
>>
>> Matthew
>>
>>
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Larry Smith 
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>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
had a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Lori Dent]

Hi Crystal and all,

I'm also experiencing the letter announcement when unlocking my secret pass 
code. But only when I enter the last number of my secret pass code. Take care.

Lori and the  Gipper

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Re: IOS 7.1

[Christopher Chaltain]

I'm not sure I've seen much of a fuss about IOS 7.1 myself, and 
obviously not everyone has to get something out of it for it to be 
worthwhile for someone else. For me, it's noticeably snappier on my 4S 
than IOS 7.0.6 was. I'm also glad it doesn't say screen lock throughout 
the day. These are both big deals for me.


On 03/12/2014 09:53 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the fuss 
is about.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:

Hi,

Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.

Matthew



On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Larry Smith  wrote:

IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had a 
chance to see what else is new with voiceover.

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Re: ios 7.1 and location services

[Paul Scott]

I've just upgraded to ios7.1 and found that either the Google app, Google 
maps or Dropbox keet the location services running all the time. I turned 
off location services for Dropbox (why would it need it?!?) but the other 
two do need it.   Even though neither app is running, it actually seems to 
be active somewhere. If I turn off Background App Refresh for Google app 
and Google maps then location services stops. Why they hell are they 
seemingly running without me initiating them?!?!

On Tuesday, 11 March 2014 18:13:07 UTC, Jim Ruby wrote:
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> Ok, I have something in google a location based reminder some place that 
> was 
> the one keeping the gps active. I'll have to try and find it and delete 
> it. 
> Strange though because I was playing with google a few weeks back and it 
> was 
> not keeping the gps on. 
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Re: IOS 7.1

[John Diakogeorgiou]

Alan you are right there are no really huge changes but their are a
couple of good bug fixes. Of course some new bugs as well such as the
Bluetooth keyboards.

On 3/12/14, chris  wrote:
> Hi all
> I might have found another undocumented fix in iOS 7.1.
> It appears I am now able to download the enhanced quality voice right from
> within settings > general > accessibility > VoiceOver > languages and
> dialects and by double tapping on either default language or the more info
> button next to the language(s) added to the rotor. While this could be done
> before 7.1 it was often broken in this area and so had to do all of this
> from settings > general > accessibility > speak selection then turn speak
> selection on and double tap voices.
> Regards Chris
> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!
>
> On 12 Mar 2014, at 15:54, Donna  wrote:
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>> Hi Alan
>>
>> I haven't come across any of the bugs in IOS 7.1 that others are
>> experiencing. This update fixed ALL of the annoyances that I occurred when
>> I chose to update to IOS 7.
>>
>> The new calendar layout is gonna take some getting use to. I like the
>> addition of the US holidays being added into the calendar.
>>
>> Donna
>>
>>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Alan Paganelli
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the
>>> fuss is about.
>>>
>>> Alan
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad Air
>>>
 On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer 
 wrote:

 Hi,

 Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as
 I really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to
 see.

 Matthew


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Re: IOS 7.1

[chris]

Hi all
I might have found another undocumented fix in iOS 7.1.
It appears I am now able to download the enhanced quality voice right from 
within settings > general > accessibility > VoiceOver > languages and dialects 
and by double tapping on either default language or the more info button next 
to the language(s) added to the rotor. While this could be done before 7.1 it 
was often broken in this area and so had to do all of this from settings > 
general > accessibility > speak selection then turn speak selection on and 
double tap voices.
Regards Chris
Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof!

On 12 Mar 2014, at 15:54, Donna  wrote:

> Hi Alan
> 
> I haven't come across any of the bugs in IOS 7.1 that others are 
> experiencing. This update fixed ALL of the annoyances that I occurred when I 
> chose to update to IOS 7. 
> 
> The new calendar layout is gonna take some getting use to. I like the 
> addition of the US holidays being added into the calendar. 
> 
> Donna
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Alan Paganelli  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the 
>> fuss is about.
>> 
>> Alan
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad Air
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
>>> really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.
>>> 
>>> Matthew
>>> 
>>> 
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 a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
 
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[brucemb]

hi all I fixed it just turn off use phonetics, and the problem goes away.
bruce from my computer

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Re: IOS 7.1

[Rick Alfaro]

For me, the 2 main highlights in 7.1 are the fix for the volume issue 
and the screen locked repetition issue. The better quality UK voices are 
nice as well.




Best Regards,

Rick alfaro

On 3/12/2014 10:53 AM, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the fuss 
is about.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air


On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:

Hi,

Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.

Matthew



On Mar 10, 2014, at 6:15 PM, Larry Smith  wrote:

IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had a 
chance to see what else is new with voiceover.

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RE: IOS 7.1

[Juan Hernandez]

Working good on my iPhone 5.


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Of matthew Dyer
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 5:01 PM
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Subject: Re: IOS 7.1

Hi,

Just tried  it and it works fine here.

Matthew


On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:14 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
> 
> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
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>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
had
>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Donna]

Hi Alan

I haven't come across any of the bugs in IOS 7.1 that others are experiencing. 
This update fixed ALL of the annoyances that I occurred when I chose to update 
to IOS 7. 

The new calendar layout is gonna take some getting use to. I like the addition 
of the US holidays being added into the calendar. 

Donna

> On Mar 12, 2014, at 10:53 AM, Alan Paganelli  
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> I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the 
> fuss is about.
> 
> Alan
> 
> Sent from my iPad Air
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
>> really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.
>> 
>> Matthew
>> 
>> 
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Alan Paganelli]

I really haven't seen anything earth shaking in 7.1 so don't see what the fuss 
is about.

Alan

Sent from my iPad Air

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 4:57 PM, matthew Dyer  wrote:
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> 
> Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
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> 
> Matthew
> 
> 
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Robin Frost]

Hi,
How very curious I have speak hints turned on running iOS 7.1 on an iPhone 5s 
and can not reproduce this bug no matter how hard I try.
Robin


From: Crystal French 
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2014 9:29 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

Hi All,
I, too, am experiencing the passcode letter announcement.

I had a thought as to why this may be happening.

I went to the phone key pad, and, sure enough, the letters are once again being 
announced on that keypad.

I don’t know, of course, but wonder if that may explain it.

Crystal 

From: Jeff Samco 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

I have the same result with spoken letters on my 5s.
Jeff

At 12:26 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
>I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.
>
>On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
> > passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen appears VO
> > announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
> > instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
> > others confirm this annoyance?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Todd
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Crystal French]

Hi All,
I, too, am experiencing the passcode letter announcement.

I had a thought as to why this may be happening.

I went to the phone key pad, and, sure enough, the letters are once again being 
announced on that keypad.

I don’t know, of course, but wonder if that may explain it.

Crystal 

From: Jeff Samco 
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 11:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

I have the same result with spoken letters on my 5s.
Jeff

At 12:26 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
>I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.
>
>On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
> > Hello All,
> >
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> > passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen appears VO
> > announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
> > instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
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> >
> > Thanks,
> >
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Todd W]

Thanks David.  This probably explains why some folks are not experiencing
the issue while others are.  Appreciate the tip!

Todd


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:29 AM, David Chittenden wrote:

> Turn off hints to disable the announcing of the letters with the final
> number of the passcode. However, please be aware that, with hints turned
> off, VO will not read the first few lines of emails when in the email list
> view. Because I use this feature, I leave hints on and except the
> announcement of the letters with the final number. Actually, the other
> numbers have their letters announced also if one pauses between numbers.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
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> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On 12 Mar 2014, at 17:43, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> >
> > I have the same result with spoken letters on my 5s.
> > Jeff
> >
> > At 12:26 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
> >> I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.
> >>
> >> On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
> >> > Hello All,
> >> >
> >> > I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
> >> > passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen
> appears VO
> >> > announces the letters that were on the last number key in my
> passcode...for
> >> > instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
> >> > others confirm this annoyance?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> >
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

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Turn off hints to disable the announcing of the letters with the final number 
of the passcode. However, please be aware that, with hints turned off, VO will 
not read the first few lines of emails when in the email list view. Because I 
use this feature, I leave hints on and except the announcement of the letters 
with the final number. Actually, the other numbers have their letters announced 
also if one pauses between numbers.

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Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 12 Mar 2014, at 17:43, Jeff Samco  wrote:
> 
> I have the same result with spoken letters on my 5s.
> Jeff
> 
> At 12:26 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:
>> I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.
>> 
>> On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
>> > passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen appears VO
>> > announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
>> > instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
>> > others confirm this annoyance?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> >
>> > Todd
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Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Gmail]

Speaking of improvements, does it still take five seconds of holding your 
finger down on the screen when you're moving an app out of a folder for the 
folder to close and the process to take effect? I find this--I don't know 
whether to call it a feature or not--extremely annoying, not to mention a waste 
of time.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:11 PM, "Paul and Paula Jordan"  
> wrote:
> 
> A nice little fix I’ve found is that the folder closing sound is back.  Nice!
> God bless!
> Paula and Babe
>  
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Christina C.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions
>  
> Wow, if the edit text field issue is indeed fixed, I will do a happy dance. 
> That problem has caused me to loose lots of time if I were to accidentally 
> put my finger in the edit text field. This was one of the major things on my 
> wish list that Apple would fix. :)
>  
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
>  
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it 
> yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it 
> should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me 
> since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen 
> locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message 
> or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor would 
> jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when you 
> tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been restored 
> in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some e-mail 
> senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to see 
> these fixes.
> 
> I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts 
> displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many 
> alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of alerts. 
>  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and multiple 
> alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button to turn 
> the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts .  This 
> will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say when in a 
> meeting.
> 
> I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.
> 
> Todd
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Jeff Samco]

I have the same result with spoken letters on my 5s.
Jeff

At 12:26 PM 3/11/2014, you wrote:

I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.

On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
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>
> I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
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> announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
> instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
> others confirm this annoyance?
>
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>
> Todd
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Re: IOS 7.1

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

Just tried  it and it works fine here.

Matthew


On Mar 11, 2014, at 3:14 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
> 
> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had
>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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RE: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

I'm using an IPhone 4S and have just updated to 7.1.  When I enter the pass
code it does the same thing,.  It says the 3 letters associated with the
number.

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
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Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 2:46 PM
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Subject: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

 

Hello All,

I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen appears VO
announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can others
confirm this annoyance?

Thanks,

Todd

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Re: IOS 7.1

[matthew Dyer]

Hi,

Yes the screen lock message is fixed.  Not sure about any other bugs  as I 
really haven't had any problems with the 7.0.6 update so will have to see.

Matthew


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> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had a 
> chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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RE: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Paul and Paula Jordan]

A nice little fix I've found is that the folder closing sound is back.
Nice!

God bless!

Paula and Babe

 

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Of Christina C.
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 12:56 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

 

Wow, if the edit text field issue is indeed fixed, I will do a happy dance.
That problem has caused me to loose lots of time if I were to accidentally
put my finger in the edit text field. This was one of the major things on my
wish list that Apple would fix. :)

 

Christina

Sent from Christina's iMac :) 

 

On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Todd W  wrote:





Hi All,

Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it
yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it
should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me
since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen
locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message
or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor
would jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when
you tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been
restored in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some
e-mail senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to
see these fixes.

I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts
displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many
alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of
alerts.  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and
multiple alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button
to turn the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts
.  This will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say
when in a meeting.

I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.

Todd



 

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Re: IOS 7.1

[Angus MacKinnon]

I  went to the App Store on my Canadian iPhone 5S and only see a update for the 
Podcast App and Google Hangouts. All I can do is open, add wish list, add an 
icon for the app and view details.

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Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Margaret]

I agree. I've have lost time as well. Sometimes I get so frustrated   

Margaret 


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> On 12 Mar 2014, at 3:55 am, "Christina C."  wrote:
> 
> Wow, if the edit text field issue is indeed fixed, I will do a happy dance. 
> That problem has caused me to loose lots of time if I were to accidentally 
> put my finger in the edit text field. This was one of the major things on my 
> wish list that Apple would fix. :)
> 
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Todd W  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it 
>> yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it 
>> should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me 
>> since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen 
>> locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message 
>> or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor 
>> would jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when 
>> you tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been 
>> restored in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some 
>> e-mail senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to 
>> see these fixes.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts 
>> displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many 
>> alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of 
>> alerts.  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and 
>> multiple alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button 
>> to turn the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts 
>> .  This will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say 
>> when in a meeting.
>> 
>> I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
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Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Margaret]

I also updated my phone last night. What I like about iOS 7.1 is the 
notification centre is how it displays my appointments for the day. 

What I don't like is that apple mucked around with search in calendar. I use to 
go into search and navigate through the list of my appointments. Now I have to 
work out how to bring up them. 

I'm still looking to see how I like the rest of changes. 

Margaret 


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> On 11 Mar 2014, at 10:57 pm, Todd W  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it 
> yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it 
> should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me 
> since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen 
> locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message 
> or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor would 
> jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when you 
> tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been restored 
> in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some e-mail 
> senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to see 
> these fixes.
> 
> I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts 
> displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many 
> alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of alerts. 
>  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and multiple 
> alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button to turn 
> the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts .  This 
> will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say when in a 
> meeting.
> 
> I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.
> 
> Todd
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Re: iOS 7.1 - Passcode Unlock annoyance

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I tried it and am not having the same problem on a 5s.

On 3/11/14, Todd W  wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> I have both an iPhone 5 and iPad now running 7.1.  Both devices have a
> passcode lock.  Once the passcode is entered and the home screen appears VO
> announces the letters that were on the last number key in my passcode...for
> instance if the last number pressed was 4 it would announce GHI.  Can
> others confirm this annoyance?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Todd
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RE: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Don & Cher]

I tried in the middle of the night and got the same message.

Cher


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Of Scott Rumery
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the
update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming that
this may be the cause of my trouble.

When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and
then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has
been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every
time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the
problem?

Scott Rumery

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Re: IOS 7.1

[Peter Durieux]

There is also a speech rate option per voice

With kind regards,

-Peter Durieux

> Op 11-mrt.-2014 om 16:20 heeft Jesper Holten  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi.
> Yeah I restarted the phone then I unloaded and re-loaded VO, then I
> took the Australian voice out of the roter and put it back in both as
> compact and HQ voice. Though without result. Its not a big enough deal
> to do a reinstall of the IOS.  but then I did a restart 5 times home
> key, with a limited success, when opening the  screen I could change
> the speed in the roter but then I changed to the Daniel voice and back
> to Karin and then I could no longer change Karin again.
> weird!
> Best regards, Jesper.!
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Jesper,
>> 
>> Have you restarted your phone? Sometimes doing that clears up this sort of
>> odd behavior. You might also try going to Voice settings and turning the
>> Australian voice off and back on. This might make it reload something,
>> thereby fixing the problem.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> Thanks alot for your replies. But this is wierd then, why mykarin
>>> voice is impacted and none of the other voices in the roter.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/14, Eric Whitten  wrote:
>>>> I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> hello All.
>>>>> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
>>>>> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
>>>>> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
>>>>> is on an iPhone 4s.
>>>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>>>>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> like normal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Jesper Holten
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>>>>>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>>>>>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>>>>>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>>>>>> reproduce as a bug?
>>>>>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>>>>>> Frustrated
>>>>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I
>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
>>>>>>>> 
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

Hi.
We have another danish  user with the same problem on a 4s but with
all voices, could it be a danish local 4s problem I wonder?
Best regards, Jesper.

On 3/11/14, Jesper Holten  wrote:
> Hi.
> Yeah I restarted the phone then I unloaded and re-loaded VO, then I
> took the Australian voice out of the roter and put it back in both as
> compact and HQ voice. Though without result. Its not a big enough deal
> to do a reinstall of the IOS.  but then I did a restart 5 times home
> key, with a limited success, when opening the  screen I could change
> the speed in the roter but then I changed to the Daniel voice and back
> to Karin and then I could no longer change Karin again.
> weird!
> Best regards, Jesper.!
>
> On 3/11/14, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi Jesper,
>>
>> Have you restarted your phone? Sometimes doing that clears up this sort
>> of
>> odd behavior. You might also try going to Voice settings and turning the
>> Australian voice off and back on. This might make it reload something,
>> thereby fixing the problem.
>>
>> Best,
>> Anna
>>
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jesper Holten 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> Thanks alot for your replies. But this is wierd then, why mykarin
>>> voice is impacted and none of the other voices in the roter.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/11/14, Eric Whitten  wrote:
>>>> I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> hello All.
>>>>> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
>>>>> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
>>>>> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
>>>>> is on an iPhone 4s.
>>>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>>>>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I
>>>>>> can
>>>>>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it
>>>>>> works
>>>>>> like normal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>> From: Jesper Holten
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>>>>>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you
>>>>>> cannot
>>>>>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>>>>>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>>>>>> reproduce as a bug?
>>>>>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>>>>>> voice
>>>>>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>>>>>> Frustrated
>>>>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I
>>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
>>>>>>>>
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Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Alex Hall]

After a bit of testing, this does indeed seem to be fixed. I created a new 
e-mail, and then, while typing in the body, touch the body edit field. 
Voiceover set something, but focus did not seem to change. Of course, touching 
the field again would cause focus to move, but the initial tap seems to do 
nothing. The only downside, is that now, when I double tap the edit field to 
start editing, at least in mail, Focus jumps to the end of the field. That is, 
I have to double tap twice, to make sure the insertion point is at the start of 
the field. I am not yet sure if this is mail only, or if it happens in other 
apps as well.
On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:55 PM, Christina C.  wrote:

> Wow, if the edit text field issue is indeed fixed, I will do a happy dance. 
> That problem has caused me to loose lots of time if I were to accidentally 
> put my finger in the edit text field. This was one of the major things on my 
> wish list that Apple would fix. :)
> 
> Christina
> Sent from Christina's iMac :)
> 
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Todd W  wrote:
> 
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it 
>> yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it 
>> should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me 
>> since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen 
>> locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message 
>> or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor 
>> would jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when 
>> you tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been 
>> restored in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some 
>> e-mail senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to 
>> see these fixes.
>> 
>> I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts 
>> displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many 
>> alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of 
>> alerts.  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and 
>> multiple alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button 
>> to turn the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts 
>> .  This will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say 
>> when in a meeting.
>> 
>> I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.
>> 
>> Todd
>> 
>> 
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Re: iOS 7.1 - First Impressions

[Christina C.]

Wow, if the edit text field issue is indeed fixed, I will do a happy dance. 
That problem has caused me to loose lots of time if I were to accidentally put 
my finger in the edit text field. This was one of the major things on my wish 
list that Apple would fix. :)

Christina
Sent from Christina's iMac :)

On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:57 AM, Todd W  wrote:

> Hi All,
> 
> Just wanted to share my initial findings about iOS 7.1.  I installed it 
> yesterday on my iPhone 5 with no issues.  VO came up on reboot just as it 
> should have.  I notice three things off the bat that had really annoyed me 
> since the iOS 7.0 upgrade had been fixed.  They were: 1) the double "screen 
> locked" announcement, 2) the issue where when editing text, say in a message 
> or e-mail and you inadvertantly tapped somewhere in the text the cursor would 
> jump to that spot (very frustrating at times!).  Prior to iOS 7 when you 
> tapped the edit field VO would read the contents.  That's now been restored 
> in 7.1.  Lastly, 3) 7.1 fixed a bug that incorrectly announced some e-mail 
> senders as being VIP when in fact they were not.  I'm really happy to see 
> these fixes.
> 
> I have noticed however that now with 7.1 if you have multiple alerts 
> displayed on the lock screen VO still  has a hard time determining how many 
> alerts are actually there and will incorrectly announce the number of alerts. 
>  It also seems that since the update if I am on the lock screen and multiple 
> alerts are displayed with VO reading them if I hit the power button to turn 
> the display off and lock the screen VO continues to read the alerts .  This 
> will be annoying when you want to quickly silence the phone, say when in a 
> meeting.
> 
> I'd be interested to hear other's findings on the update.
> 
> Todd
> 
> 
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

Hi.
Yeah I restarted the phone then I unloaded and re-loaded VO, then I
took the Australian voice out of the roter and put it back in both as
compact and HQ voice. Though without result. Its not a big enough deal
to do a reinstall of the IOS.  but then I did a restart 5 times home
key, with a limited success, when opening the  screen I could change
the speed in the roter but then I changed to the Daniel voice and back
to Karin and then I could no longer change Karin again.
weird!
Best regards, Jesper.!

On 3/11/14, Woody Anna Dresner  wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jesper,
>
> Have you restarted your phone? Sometimes doing that clears up this sort of
> odd behavior. You might also try going to Voice settings and turning the
> Australian voice off and back on. This might make it reload something,
> thereby fixing the problem.
>
> Best,
> Anna
>
> On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>> Thanks alot for your replies. But this is wierd then, why mykarin
>> voice is impacted and none of the other voices in the roter.
>>
>>
>> On 3/11/14, Eric Whitten  wrote:
>>> I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello All.
>>>> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
>>>> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
>>>> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
>>>> is on an iPhone 4s.
>>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>>>
>>>>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>>>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I
>>>>> can
>>>>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it
>>>>> works
>>>>> like normal.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>> From: Jesper Holten
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>>>>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>>>>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>>>>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>>>>> reproduce as a bug?
>>>>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>>>>> voice
>>>>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>>>>> Frustrated
>>>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I
>>>>>>> haven't
>>>>>>> had
>>>>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
>>>>>>>
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Woody Anna Dresner]

Hi Jesper,

Have you restarted your phone? Sometimes doing that clears up this sort of odd 
behavior. You might also try going to Voice settings and turning the Australian 
voice off and back on. This might make it reload something, thereby fixing the 
problem.

Best,
Anna

On Mar 11, 2014, at 6:39 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi all.
> Thanks alot for your replies. But this is wierd then, why mykarin
> voice is impacted and none of the other voices in the roter.
> 
> 
> On 3/11/14, Eric Whitten  wrote:
>> I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> hello All.
>>> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
>>> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
>>> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
>>> is on an iPhone 4s.
>>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>> 
>>>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
>>>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it
>>>> works
>>>> like normal.
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: Jesper Holten
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>>>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>>>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>>>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>>>> reproduce as a bug?
>>>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>>>> voice
>>>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>>>> Frustrated
>>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
>>>>>> had
>>>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
>>>>>> 
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

Hi all.
Thanks alot for your replies. But this is wierd then, why mykarin
voice is impacted and none of the other voices in the roter.


On 3/11/14, Eric Whitten  wrote:
> I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
>> wrote:
>>
>> hello All.
>> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
>> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
>> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
>> is on an iPhone 4s.
>> Best regards, Jesper.
>>
>>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
>>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it
>>> works
>>> like normal.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Jesper Holten
>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>>>
>>> Hi all.
>>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>>> reproduce as a bug?
>>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>>
>>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>>> voice
>>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>>> Frustrated
>>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
>>>>> had
>>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
>>>>>
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Eric Whitten]

I am using Karen compact and sounds better then before. I have IOS 7.1

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:14 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:
> 
> hello All.
> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
> is on an iPhone 4s.
> Best regards, Jesper.
> 
>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it works
>> like normal.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jesper Holten
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>> reproduce as a bug?
>> Best regards, Jsper.
>> 
>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>> voice
>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>> Frustrated
>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
>>>> had
>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Lea Langley]

Hi all, these are a few things I found new in 7.1 with VoiceOver in the 
notification list it now says no notifications instead of empty list when you 
have cleared out all of you notifications the volume of voice over now goes to 
100%. I tested this after I turn my phone off and then turn it back on again as 
well as before I turn my phone off. This is not quite voiceover, but as it has 
been discussed in other emails I will put it in here. You can now edit your 
contact fields. I only did it with the first name one and one contact I cleared 
the text and then retype the name in. So that seems to of been fixed also. As 
of that a lot as some other people have said the change speed in the rotor 
works normally for me. I should have said that the speech rate in the rotor 
works normally for me. That would clarify it a little bit I think. Sorry. 
VoiceOver Nelson's screen locked only wants so that also has been fixed or at 
least on my phone it works normally. God bless, when Langley

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 5:26 AM, "Scott Erichsen"  
> wrote:
> 
> It works fine here using the Australian voice
> Can change the rate of speech no problem.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jesper Holten
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2014 9:14 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
> 
> hello All.
> After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
> when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
> does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
> is on an iPhone 4s.
> Best regards, Jesper.
> 
>> On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
>> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
>> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it works
>> like normal.
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Jesper Holten
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>> 
>> Hi all.
>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>> reproduce as a bug?
>> Best regards, Jsper.
>> 
>>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>> voice
>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>> Frustrated
>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
>>>> had
>>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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RE: IOS 7.1

[Scott Erichsen]

It works fine here using the Australian voice
Can change the rate of speech no problem.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jesper Holten
Sent: Tuesday, 11 March 2014 9:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 7.1

hello All.
After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
is on an iPhone 4s.
Best regards, Jesper.

On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it works
> like normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesper Holten
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>
> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
>
> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>> voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>>
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>>> had
>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

hello All.
After having played around abit more the problem seems only to occur
when using the Australian voice which used to be my favorite. Now it
does not sound very nice especially in hte High quality version. This
is on an iPhone 4s.
Best regards, Jesper.

On 3/11/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
> I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can
> change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it works
> like normal.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jesper Holten
> Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 7.1
>
> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
>
> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>> voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>>
>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't
>>> had
>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[MamaPeach]

I updated to the new IOS and Speech Rate is still in my rotor and I can 
change the rate of speech, just like I used to do, so on my end, it works 
like normal.


-Original Message- 
From: Jesper Holten

Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2014 3:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: IOS 7.1

Hi all.
It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
reproduce as a bug?
Best regards, Jsper.

On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:

,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice
in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
Frustrated
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone


On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:

IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had
a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.

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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

Hi all.
Yes that is what I mean. But I have sevarl voices in the roter and
maybe that is what causes the probelm.
Best regards, Jesper.

On 3/11/14, Teresa Cochran  wrote:
> I can still change the speech rate of voiceover. I've had it in my rotor
> settings and just updated to 7.1, and the option is still there.
>
> HtH,
> teresa
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> batsfly...@me.com
> Facebook
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> On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Jesper Holten 
> wrote:
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>> Hi all.
>> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
>> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
>> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
>> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
>> reproduce as a bug?
>> Best regards, Jsper.
>>
>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew
>>> voice
>>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>>> Frustrated
>>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Teresa Cochran]

I can still change the speech rate of voiceover. I've had it in my rotor 
settings and just updated to 7.1, and the option is still there.

HtH,
teresa

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On Mar 11, 2014, at 12:14 AM, Jesper Holten  wrote:

> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
> 
> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>> 
>>> IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had
>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Peter Durieux]

Do you mean speech rate per voice? 

With kind regards,

-Peter Durieux

> Op 11-mrt.-2014 om 08:14 heeft Jesper Holten  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hi all.
> It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
> router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
> change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
> settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
> reproduce as a bug?
> Best regards, Jsper.
> 
>> On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
>> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice
>> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
>> Frustrated
>> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
>>> 
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>>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Jesper Holten]

Hi all.
It seems that you no longer can change the speed directly from the
router with the speed option enabled in the voiceover Roter you cannot
change the speed only if you go into the accessibility voiceover
settings can you change the speed. Is it something others can
reproduce as a bug?
Best regards, Jsper.

On 3/11/14, Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy  wrote:
> ,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice
> in VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
> Frustrated
> Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
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>> a chance to see what else is new with voiceover.
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RE: ios 7.1 something different

[Jim Ruby]

This did not do it in ios 7.06 or 7.04. Now I noticed that it is showing
google is using the gps hmmm? I'll have to dig in to this as it makes no
sence. So something is different since the update from 7.06 to 7.1 also
stocks notifications were on, when I had them off. So what other changes did
the update mess with?



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Brent Harding
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:25 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: ios 7.1 something different

Foursquare does it in IOS 6 as well. They have that feature now that
notifies you of tips at the locations you visit, and specials if places post
check-in specials. For example, a couple weeks ago, I got a push of
someone's tip to try nachos at a place I ate at.

- Original Message -
From: "Jim Ruby" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: ios 7.1 something different


> Now I see my location services on all the time on the status bar. Looking 
> in
> location services I see that foursquare is using location services and I
> don't even have it running. It did not do this in ios 7.06 and I have made
> no changes other then to update to ios 7.1.
>
>
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy]

,My one disappointment so far is that they didn't include the Hebrew voice in 
VoiceOver. I think I'm going to say that until this changes.
Frustrated
Haya Simkin & guide dog Pammy
Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2014, at 0:15, Larry Smith  wrote:
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Candy Lowe]

I keep getting a message that there was an erra downloading the upgrade.  I 
guess If I can't get it to work tomorrow, I will wipe my phoneen  A friend of 
mine upgraded hers tonight with no problems, but, she has the 5s and I have the 
4s.  Has anyone received this erra message?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2014, at 10:05 PM, Tom Lange  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> My download stalled out at around 54 percent, so I went off to watch a TV 
> show for a while.  Came back about half an hour later and the install was in 
> progress.  Much to my annoyance, VO didn't come up when the install finished 
> so I had no clue whether it was actually done; about five minutes ago I tried 
> triple-click home and it worked. Now it's time to explore and see what's new.
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
> Tom
> - Original Message -
> From: Candy Lowe
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:37 PM
> Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download
> 
> I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
> hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>> 
>> That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!
>>> 
>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
>>> Fielding
>>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>>> richr...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
>>>> update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
>>>> that this may be the cause of my trouble.
>>>> 
>>>> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
>>>> then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
>>>> been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens 
>>>> every time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to 
>>>> solve the problem?
>>>> 
>>>> Scott Rumery
>>>> 
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Tom Lange]

Hi,
My download stalled out at around 54 percent, so I went off to watch a TV show 
for a while.  Came back about half an hour later and the install was in 
progress.  Much to my annoyance, VO didn't come up when the install finished so 
I had no clue whether it was actually done; about five minutes ago I tried 
triple-click home and it worked. Now it's time to explore and see what's new.

Tom
 

Tom
  - Original Message - 
  From: Candy Lowe 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:37 PM
  Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download


  I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.




On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:


  I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!


  You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
Fielding
   Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
  richr...@gmail.com


  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing 
the update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
that this may be the cause of my trouble.

When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% 
and then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every 
time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the 
problem?

Scott Rumery

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Re: ios 7.1 something different

[Brent Harding]

Foursquare does it in IOS 6 as well. They have that feature now that 
notifies you of tips at the locations you visit, and specials if places post 
check-in specials. For example, a couple weeks ago, I got a push of 
someone's tip to try nachos at a place I ate at.


- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Ruby" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 9:12 PM
Subject: ios 7.1 something different


Now I see my location services on all the time on the status bar. Looking 
in

location services I see that foursquare is using location services and I
don't even have it running. It did not do this in ios 7.06 and I have made
no changes other then to update to ios 7.1.



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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[John Diakogeorgiou]

I just finished updating a phone with 6.1 on it because my wife had
hers replaced. It took about 45 minutes to an hour. It didn't stop but
took a long time to get to about 50% then went faster.

On 3/10/14, MamaPeach  wrote:
> I updated today and it took no more than 15 minutes total.
>
> From: Alex Hall
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:38 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download
>
> Just wait until tomorrow or the next day. Normally, at least in my
> experience, if you don't get in update within a few hours of release, you
> are stuck. After those first few hours, Apple's servers are inundated with
> requests; waiting a day or so will normally fix the problem, since the
> majority of people will have downloaded their copies of the update.
>
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:
>
>
>   I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two
> hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.
>
>   Sent from my iPhone
>
>   On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>
>
> That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.
>
>
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>
>
>   I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!
>
>
>   You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of
> Fielding
>   Sent from my Mac Book Pro
>   richr...@gmail.com
>
>   On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery 
> wrote:
>
>
> Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing
> the update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming
> that this may be the cause of my trouble.
>
> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about
> 40% and then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection
> has been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens
> every time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve
> the problem?
>
> Scott Rumery
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[MamaPeach]

I updated today and it took no more than 15 minutes total.

From: Alex Hall 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 8:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

Just wait until tomorrow or the next day. Normally, at least in my experience, 
if you don't get in update within a few hours of release, you are stuck. After 
those first few hours, Apple's servers are inundated with requests; waiting a 
day or so will normally fix the problem, since the majority of people will have 
downloaded their copies of the update.

On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:


  I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping. 


On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:


  I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!


  You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
Fielding
  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
  richr...@gmail.com

  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing 
the update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
that this may be the cause of my trouble.

When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% 
and then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every 
time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the 
problem?

Scott Rumery

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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

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Just wait until tomorrow or the next day. Normally, at least in my experience, 
if you don't get in update within a few hours of release, you are stuck. After 
those first few hours, Apple's servers are inundated with requests; waiting a 
day or so will normally fix the problem, since the majority of people will have 
downloaded their copies of the update.
On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:37 PM, Candy Lowe  wrote:

> I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
> hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
> 
>> That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
>> 
>>> I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!
>>> 
>>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
>>> Fielding
>>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>>> richr...@gmail.com
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>>> 
 Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
 update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
 that this may be the cause of my trouble.
 
 When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
 then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
 been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens 
 every time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to 
 solve the problem?
 
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Fred Olver]

it's probably because so many others are attempting to do the same thing. So, 
if it's not critical that you do it right now why not wait a couple days.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Candy Lowe 
  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 7:37 PM
  Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download


  I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.

  Sent from my iPhone

  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.




On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:


  I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!


  You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
Fielding
   Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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  On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:


Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing 
the update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
that this may be the cause of my trouble.

When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% 
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Candy Lowe]

I am having the same problem. I have been trying to download for over two 
hours, and I am only at 47%. It keeps stopping and stopping and stopping.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:30 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
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> 
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>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:
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>> 
>> You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
>>  Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
>> richr...@gmail.com
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
>>> update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming 
>>> that this may be the cause of my trouble.
>>> 
>>> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
>>> then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
>>> been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every 
>>> time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the 
>>> problem?
>>> 
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Scott Rumery]

That is what I was thinking as well, well that is what I am hoping.


On Mar 10, 2014, at 8:04 PM, Richard Ring  wrote:

> I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!
> 
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> On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:
> 
>> Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
>> update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming that 
>> this may be the cause of my trouble.
>> 
>> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
>> then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has 
>> been reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every 
>> time. Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the 
>> problem?
>> 
>> Scott Rumery
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Re: iOS 7.1 Won't Download

[Richard Ring]

I bet this is because Apple servers are completely jammed!

You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Mar 10, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Scott Rumery  wrote:

> Hello I can't seem to get the iOS 7.1 update to download. I am doing the 
> update through iTunes because my phone was jailbroken and I am assuming that 
> this may be the cause of my trouble.
> 
> When I choose to restore and update my iPhone it will get to about 40% and 
> then iTunes will give me a message saying that my network connection has been 
> reset and that I will need to try the update again. This happens every time. 
> Has anyone else had this issue and if so were you able to solve the problem?
> 
> Scott Rumery
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Re: IOS 7.1

[Kay Malmquist]

One thing that I find awesome is that now like in IOS 6 the folder now says 
how many new items so you don't have to open them and look to see how many 
updates or notifications there are.  That is super!
- Original Message - 
From: "Larry Smith" 
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Sent: Monday, March 10, 2014 5:15 PM
Subject: IOS 7.1


IOS 7.1 seems to have fixed the "screen locked" repeat bug. I haven't had a 
chance to see what else is new with voiceover.

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RE: iOS 7.1 Beta 3

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Hi Peter,

 

I am not a developer and all I did was to reply to Ed's question stating
what anybody can look up online which is that iOS 7.1 Beta was released in
November and that Apple released the third Beta of iOS 7.1 this morning. I
have no special insights into when 7.1 goes public, but historically it's
usually January and I question reports like some of the ones I read which
say it won't be until March.

 

If I were a developer I'd be under NDA and I also agree with the point of
view of the moderators which is that this type of information has no
official place on this list. But once again historically I totally expect
that Apple will fix Voiceover bugs along with other bugs when iOS 7.1 comes
out. 

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Peter Durieux
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7.1 Beta 3

 

hi 

 

not that you break nda's, but please teest against some known bugs of vo and
bug report if they still exists :)

 

vo volume bug,

speech rate bug by different voices etc :)

 

 


With kind regards,

 

-Peter Durieux


Op 7-jan.-2014 om 19:52 heeft Sieghard Weitzel mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > het volgende geschreven:

Hello List,

 

Just this morning I replied to Ed's question about the next iOS update
saying that iOS 7.1 Beta was released to developers back in November. I
mentioned that Beta 2 came out before Christmas and that I expected Beta 3
to make an appearance any time. Well, I just saw that Apple released Beta 3
to developers this morning, nothing much mentioned with respect to changes,
fixes and new features except something about iCloud and improvements in
playing audio books in the Music app.

 

I found a couple of articles where the author claims that the public release
of iOS 7.1 won't happen until March because the new "iOS in the Car" feature
is supposed to be part of it and it is apparently not ready. Typically Apple
would release the first major update in January and I have a feeling that
may still be the case because I have not read anything like this March
release on any of the more credible sites like Mac Rumours or 9 to 5 Mac. I
guess we shall see, but if they release 3 beta versions of iOS 7.1 in 6
weeks (November 18 was when the first Beta came out) I just can't see them
taking another 2 months or more for the public release, they would be at
Beta 6 or 7 by then which for a Dot 1 upgrade I just would not expect.

 

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

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Re: iOS 7.1 Beta 3

[Peter Durieux]

hi 

not that you break nda's, but please teest against some known bugs of vo and 
bug report if they still exists :)

vo volume bug,
speech rate bug by different voices etc :)



With kind regards,

-Peter Durieux

> Op 7-jan.-2014 om 19:52 heeft Sieghard Weitzel  het 
> volgende geschreven:
> 
> Hello List,
>  
> Just this morning I replied to Ed’s question about the next iOS update saying 
> that iOS 7.1 Beta was released to developers back in November. I mentioned 
> that Beta 2 came out before Christmas and that I expected Beta 3 to make an 
> appearance any time. Well, I just saw that Apple released Beta 3 to 
> developers this morning, nothing much mentioned with respect to changes, 
> fixes and new features except something about iCloud and improvements in 
> playing audio books in the Music app.
>  
> I found a couple of articles where the author claims that the public release 
> of iOS 7.1 won’t happen until March because the new “iOS in the Car” feature 
> is supposed to be part of it and it is apparently not ready. Typically Apple 
> would release the first major update in January and I have a feeling that may 
> still be the case because I have not read anything like this March release on 
> any of the more credible sites like Mac Rumours or 9 to 5 Mac. I guess we 
> shall see, but if they release 3 beta versions of iOS 7.1 in 6 weeks 
> (November 18 was when the first Beta came out) I just can’t see them taking 
> another 2 months or more for the public release, they would be at Beta 6 or 7 
> by then which for a Dot 1 upgrade I just would not expect.
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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