Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-25 Thread Wayne Merritt
This happens to me every so often. The only solution is to go back and
try it again. Usually on the second attempt I get it right.

Wayne

On 10/25/13, Jen Colley  wrote:
> When I paste a link or something in to an edit field it doesn't show up
> though.
> Jen
>
> -Original Message-
> From: David Chittenden
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:10 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>
> This is correct, what is copied to the clipboard is the last thing
> voice-over speaks from a specific command. Or, the last phrase voice-over
> speaks between inserted pauses.
>
> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On 23 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Sandratomkins 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>> I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example,
>> words, then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the
>> clipboard using the quadruple three finger. Tap.
>>
>> This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even
>> when I am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.
>> HT H, Sandy
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever
>>>
>>> it
>>> spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words
>>> "phone
>>> number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
>>> followed by whatever else it said.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
>>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> Sieghard,
>>>
>>> Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?
>>>
>>> Thanks. Keith
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> Hi Wayne,
>>>
>>> The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even
>>> used
>>> it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2
>>> things,
>>> though:
>>>
>>> 1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
>>> copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste
>>>
>>> it,
>>> you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but
>>>
>>> I
>>> thought I point it out.
>>>
>>> 2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for
>>> example
>>> say this:
>>> 450-222- phone number detected
>>> If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
>>> "phone number detected" at the end of the number.
>>> Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word
>>> "link"
>>> added at the end.
>>> It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
>>> that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Wayne Merritt
>>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it
>>> took
>>> a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
>>> However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap
>>> to
>>> copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
>>> text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Wayne
>>>
>>>> On 10/20/13, Alex 

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-25 Thread Jen Colley
When I paste a link or something in to an edit field it doesn't show up 
though.

Jen

-Original Message- 
From: David Chittenden

Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 11:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

This is correct, what is copied to the clipboard is the last thing 
voice-over speaks from a specific command. Or, the last phrase voice-over 
speaks between inserted pauses.


David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 23 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Sandratomkins  
wrote:


Hi,
I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example, 
words, then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the 
clipboard using the quadruple three finger. Tap.


This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even 
when I am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.

HT H, Sandy

Sent from my iPhone


On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever 
it
spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words 
"phone

number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
followed by whatever else it said.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Sieghard,

Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?

Thanks. Keith

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Hi Wayne,

The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even 
used
it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 
things,

though:

1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste 
it,
you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but 
I

thought I point it out.

2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for 
example

say this:
450-222- phone number detected
If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
"phone number detected" at the end of the number.
Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
added at the end.
It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf

Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it 
took

a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.

Regards,
Wayne


On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had
something wrong, but wasn't sure what.

On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

Hi Alex,

It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for
deselecting text.
Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on
the screen like your are expanding

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be
warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very
challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I
still can't do it right most of the time.

1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the
start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an
editing text field to jump to the start, move with the rotor,
whatever you want).
2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That
is, if you rotor to words, you will select by word.
3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one
rotor item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will
highlight one word.
4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current
r

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-24 Thread David Chittenden
Everytime you copy something new into the clipboard, it overwrites the previous 
thing copied into the clipboard.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Oct 2013, at 22:53, "RobH."  wrote:
> 
> Now this sounds seriously useful.  So let's take lines, can you repeat the 
> 4tap gesture and copy a bunch of lines at once?
> 
> Ta, R.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Sandratomkins" 
> To: 
> Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> 
> Hi,
> I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example, words, 
> then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the clipboard 
> using the quadruple three finger. Tap.
> 
> This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even when 
> I am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.
> HT H, Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever 
>> it
>> spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words "phone
>> number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
>> followed by whatever else it said.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> Sieghard,
>> 
>> Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?
>> 
>> Thanks. Keith
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> Hi Wayne,
>> 
>> The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even 
>> used
>> it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 
>> things,
>> though:
>> 
>> 1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
>> copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste 
>> it,
>> you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
>> thought I point it out.
>> 
>> 2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for 
>> example
>> say this:
>> 450-222- phone number detected
>> If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
>> "phone number detected" at the end of the number.
>> Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
>> added at the end.
>> It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
>> that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it 
>> took
>> a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
>> However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
>> copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
>> text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had
>>> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
>>>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for
>>>> deselecting text.
>>>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on
>>>> the screen like your are expanding
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-24 Thread David Chittenden
This is correct, what is copied to the clipboard is the last thing voice-over 
speaks from a specific command. Or, the last phrase voice-over speaks between 
inserted pauses.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

> On 23 Oct 2013, at 22:32, Sandratomkins  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example, words, 
> then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the clipboard 
> using the quadruple three finger. Tap.
> 
> This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even when I 
> am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.
> HT H, Sandy
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>> 
>> Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever it
>> spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words "phone
>> number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
>> followed by whatever else it said.
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
>> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> Sieghard,
>> 
>> Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?
>> 
>> Thanks. Keith 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Sieghard Weitzel
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> Hi Wayne,
>> 
>> The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even used
>> it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 things,
>> though:
>> 
>> 1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
>> copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste it,
>> you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
>> thought I point it out.
>> 
>> 2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for example
>> say this:
>> 450-222- phone number detected
>> If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
>> "phone number detected" at the end of the number.
>> Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
>> added at the end.
>> It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
>> that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
>> Of Wayne Merritt
>> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it took
>> a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
>> However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
>> copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
>> text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Wayne
>> 
>>> On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
>>> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
>>> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
>>>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Alex,
>>>> 
>>>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for 
>>>> deselecting text.
>>>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on 
>>>> the screen like your are expanding
>>>> 
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>> 
>>>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be 
>>>> warn

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-23 Thread RobH.
Now this sounds seriously useful.  So let's take lines, can you repeat the 
4tap gesture and copy a bunch of lines at once?

Ta, R.
- Original Message - 
From: "Sandratomkins" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, October 23, 2013 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice


Hi,
I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example, words, 
then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the clipboard 
using the quadruple three finger. Tap.

This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even when 
I am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.
HT H, Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
> Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever 
> it
> spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words "phone
> number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
> followed by whatever else it said.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?
>
> Thanks. Keith
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>
> Hi Wayne,
>
> The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even 
> used
> it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 
> things,
> though:
>
> 1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
> copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste 
> it,
> you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
> thought I point it out.
>
> 2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for 
> example
> say this:
> 450-222- phone number detected
> If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
> "phone number detected" at the end of the number.
> Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
> added at the end.
> It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
> that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>
> I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it 
> took
> a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
> However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
> copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
> text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.
>
> Regards,
> Wayne
>
>> On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had
>> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
>>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Alex,
>>>
>>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for
>>> deselecting text.
>>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on
>>> the screen like your are expanding
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be
>>> warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very
>>> challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I
>>> still can't do it right most of the time.
>>>
>>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the
>>> start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an
>>> editing text field to jump to the start, move with

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-23 Thread Sandratomkins
Hi,
I have just discovered that if you set your rotor two, four example, words, 
then only one word at a time will be selected and copied to the clipboard using 
the quadruple three finger. Tap.

This seems to work anywhere. That is, not only in edit fields but even when I 
am reading an email and wish to copy one word or one line from it.
HT H, Sandy

Sent from my iPhone

> On 22 Oct 2013, at 04:56, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
> Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever it
> spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words "phone
> number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
> followed by whatever else it said.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?
> 
> Thanks. Keith 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> Hi Wayne,
> 
> The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even used
> it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 things,
> though:
> 
> 1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
> copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste it,
> you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
> thought I point it out.
> 
> 2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for example
> say this:
> 450-222- phone number detected
> If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
> "phone number detected" at the end of the number.
> Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
> added at the end.
> It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
> that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Wayne Merritt
> Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it took
> a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
> However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
> copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
> text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.
> 
> Regards,
> Wayne
> 
>> On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
>> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
>> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
>>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Alex,
>>> 
>>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for 
>>> deselecting text.
>>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on 
>>> the screen like your are expanding
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>> 
>>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be 
>>> warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very 
>>> challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I 
>>> still can't do it right most of the time.
>>> 
>>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the 
>>> start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an 
>>> editing text field to jump to the start, move with the rotor, 
>>> whatever you want).
>>> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That 
>>> is, if you rotor to words, you will select by word.
>>> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one 
>>> rotor item. So, if 

RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Sorry, maybe I should have been more specific, yes, it will copy whatever it
spoke, so if it speaks a phone number or link followed by the words "phone
number detected" or "link", then it will copy the phone number or link
followed by whatever else it said.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:53 AM
To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com'
Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Sieghard,

Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?

Thanks. Keith 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Hi Wayne,

The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even used
it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 things,
though:

1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste it,
you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
thought I point it out.

2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for example
say this:
450-222- phone number detected
If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
"phone number detected" at the end of the number.
Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
added at the end.
It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it took
a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for 
>> deselecting text.
>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on 
>> the screen like your are expanding
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>
>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be 
>> warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very 
>> challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I 
>> still can't do it right most of the time.
>>
>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the 
>> start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an 
>> editing text field to jump to the start, move with the rotor, 
>> whatever you want).
>> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That 
>> is, if you rotor to words, you will select by word.
>> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one 
>> rotor item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will 
>> highlight one word.
>> 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current 
>> rotor item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, 
>> so you could start by line and then choose words to select part of a 
>> line.
>> 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then 
>> flick up or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and 
>> double tap.
>> You
>> can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace 
>> the selected text.
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
>>> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
>>>
>>>

RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-21 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Sieghard,

Does it copy the link, then, too, or just the "link" text?

Thanks. Keith 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 9:48 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Hi Wayne,

The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even used it 
on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 things,
though:

1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you copied 
the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste it, you have 
to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I thought I 
point it out.

2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for example 
say this:
450-222- phone number detected
If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text "phone 
number detected" at the end of the number.
Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
added at the end.
It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something that 
is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it took a 
few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to copy 
the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that text. I 
haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for 
>> deselecting text.
>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on 
>> the screen like your are expanding
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>
>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be 
>> warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very 
>> challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I 
>> still can't do it right most of the time.
>>
>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the 
>> start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an 
>> editing text field to jump to the start, move with the rotor, 
>> whatever you want).
>> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That 
>> is, if you rotor to words, you will select by word.
>> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one 
>> rotor item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will 
>> highlight one word.
>> 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current 
>> rotor item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, 
>> so you could start by line and then choose words to select part of a 
>> line.
>> 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then 
>> flick up or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and 
>> double tap.
>> You
>> can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace 
>> the selected text.
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
>>> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
>>> To: List, viPhone
>>> Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
>>>
>>> O

RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-21 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Wayne,

The 3-finger quadruple tap is fantastic and it works very well. I even used
it on a larger segment of text, maybe 2 or 3 lines, and it worked. 2 things,
though:

1. You can't use the 3-finger quadruple tap to paste the text, once you
copied the text this way and go to an edit field where you want to paste it,
you have to turn the rotor to Edit and select Paste. Not a big deal, but I
thought I point it out.

2. If you copy a phone number in an email, where Voiceover will, for example
say this:
450-222- phone number detected
If you use the 3-finger quadruple tap and paste it you also get the text
"phone number detected" at the end of the number.
Same applies if it says "link" after a link, you will get the word "link"
added at the end.
It really does copy the last spoken text even if this includes something
that is not actually there. But it still is a very useful feature.


Regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Wayne Merritt
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 6:20 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it took
a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap to
copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste that
text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than pinching.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for 
>> deselecting text.
>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on 
>> the screen like your are expanding
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>
>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be 
>> warned, though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very 
>> challenging. In fact, I've used iOS for almost three years, and I 
>> still can't do it right most of the time.
>>
>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the 
>> start of the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an 
>> editing text field to jump to the start, move with the rotor, 
>> whatever you want).
>> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That 
>> is, if you rotor to words, you will select by word.
>> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one 
>> rotor item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will 
>> highlight one word.
>> 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current 
>> rotor item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, 
>> so you could start by line and then choose words to select part of a 
>> line.
>> 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then 
>> flick up or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and 
>> double tap.
>> You
>> can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace 
>> the selected text.
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
>>> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>>> Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
>>> To: List, viPhone
>>> Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
>>>
>>> Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn 
>>> to do these sorts of things?
>>>
>>> I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
>>> 
>>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>>> - "Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes."
>>> - Na

Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-21 Thread Wayne Merritt
I had an occasion to use the pinch gesture not long ago, and though it
took a few times to get the gesture working right, it really did work.
However, in iOS 7 there is a new gesture of the 3 finger quadruple tap
to copy the last spoken text, and again on another edit field to paste
that text. I haven't used this yet, but it seems to be easier than
pinching.

Regards,
Wayne

On 10/20/13, Alex Hall  wrote:
> Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had
> something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>
>> Hi Alex,
>>
>> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for
>> deselecting
>> text.
>> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
>> screen like your are expanding
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Alex Hall
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>
>> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
>> though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In
>> fact,
>> I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most
>> of
>> the time.
>>
>> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start
>> of
>> the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text
>> field
>> to jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
>> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is,
>> if
>> you rotor to words, you will select by word.
>> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one
>> rotor
>> item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one
>> word.
>> 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current
>> rotor
>> item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you
>> could
>> start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
>> 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then flick
>> up
>> or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap.
>> You
>> can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the
>> selected text.
>> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Bill,
>>>
>>> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of
>>> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Sieghard
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
>>> Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
>>> To: List, viPhone
>>> Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>>>
>>> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
>>>
>>> Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to
>>> do these sorts of things?
>>>
>>> I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
>>> 
>>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>>> - "Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes."
>>> - Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought
>>> movement,
>>> 1883-1970
>>>
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Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Ah, my apologies for the mistake. Even as I wrote it I felt like I had 
something wrong, but wasn't sure what.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:28 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Alex,
> 
> It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for deselecting
> text.
> Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
> screen like your are expanding
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Alex Hall
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
> though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact,
> I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of
> the time.
> 
> 1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of
> the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field
> to jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
> 2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if
> you rotor to words, you will select by word.
> 3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor
> item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
> 4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor
> item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could
> start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
> 5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then flick up
> or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You
> can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the
> selected text.
> On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Bill,
>> 
>> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
>> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
>> Behalf Of Bill Gallik
>> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
>> To: List, viPhone
>> Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
>> 
>> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
>> 
>> Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to 
>> do these sorts of things?
>> 
>> I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
>> 
>> Holland's Boy, Bill
>> - "Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes."
>> - Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought 
>> movement,
>> 1883-1970
>> 
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RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Alex,

It is actually "pinch out" for selecting text and "pinch in" for deselecting
text.
Think of pinch out as moving your 2 fingers away from each other on the
screen like your are expanding

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Alex Hall
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 4:12 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned,
though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact,
I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of
the time.

1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of
the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field
to jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if
you rotor to words, you will select by word.
3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor
item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor
item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could
start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then flick up
or down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You
can also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the
selected text.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of 
> Podcasts and one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Bill Gallik
> Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2013 1:29 AM
> To: List, viPhone
> Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice
> 
> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
> 
> Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to 
> do these sorts of things?
> 
> I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
> 
> Holland's Boy, Bill
> - "Ideas are the beginning points of all fortunes."
> - Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought 
> movement,
> 1883-1970
> 
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Re: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Alex Hall
Here's how you do it, so you can have text to follow as well. Be warned, 
though, that the select/de-select gestures can be very challenging. In fact, 
I've used iOS for almost three years, and I still can't do it right most of the 
time.

1. In a text field, or anywhere you can highlight text, move to the start of 
the text you want to select, by any means (double tap an editing text field to 
jump to the start, move with the rotor, whatever you want).
2. Move the rotor to the text item by which you want to select. That is, if you 
rotor to words, you will select by word.
3. Pinch in with two fingers. Every successful pinch will select one rotor 
item. So, if you are still set to words, each pinch will highlight one word.
4. If you select too much, just pinch out to de-select by the current rotor 
item. You may change rotor items in the midst of a selection, so you could 
start by line and then choose words to select part of a line.
5. Once you have selected the text you want, rotor to "edit", then flick up or 
down until you find the item you want (copy or cut) and double tap. You can 
also hit delete on the keyboard, or just start typing to replace the selected 
text.
On Oct 20, 2013, at 7:03 AM, Sieghard Weitzel  wrote:

> Hi Bill,
> 
> Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of Podcasts and
> one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
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> 
> How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?
> 
> Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do
> these sorts of things?
> 
> I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!
> 
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RE: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

2013-10-20 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Bill,

Check out the website www.IBlindTech.com. Garth has a series of Podcasts and
one of them is on selecting, copying and pasting text.


Regards,
Sieghard


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Subject: "Cut & Paste" On an iDevice

How can "Cut & Paste" (or "Copy & Paste") be done on an iPhone, etc?

Or, better yet, where is there documentation one can read to learn to do
these sorts of things?

I know I'll get a valuable answer here so, thank you in advance!

Holland's Boy, Bill
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- Napoleon Hill, American author in the area of the new thought movement,
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