RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure
and it keeps going :) At 05:54 PM 4/28/2015, you wrote: Ron, Thanks for that clarification. I must have missed that post but yes, that would make a big difference if one is calling Siri by using the finger set for the Touch ID. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't realize he was pushing the home button to invoke SIRI with a recognized finger print finger. If anyone else uses the phone they can get to SIRI by pushing the home button but, the finger print reader is on that button and, if its not your finger, it doesn't work Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure That's curious. I have my Touch ID and Passcode settings turned on to allow access to Siri from a locked screen but when I tried beating the system by asking for the temperature, nothing happened when I double tapped on the Weather Channel button below the provided temperatures. My screen did not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.orghttp://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney mailto:talk2o...@gmail.comtalk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.commargaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.netj_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Question is, did you use your own phone and press the home button with a finger that you normally would unlock your phone with? If so, you unlocked your screen, otherwise it won’t work Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aleeha Dudley Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 5:17 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I could and did replicate this problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca mailto:ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi, I think you’re making a mistake in your test. You probably are using a finger to press the home button that you have registered as a finger print to activate SIRI. If I use my index finger which is my finger print It works just as you said but, if I use another finger to activate SIRI, it gives me the weather and when I tap on the weather channel button, it only brings me back to my unlock button. Nothing doing. I’m using a 5S I thought it strange that you could get in that easily. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net mailto:j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http
Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure
That's curious. I have my Touch ID and Passcode settings turned on to allow access to Siri from a locked screen but when I tried beating the system by asking for the temperature, nothing happened when I double tapped on the Weather Channel button below the provided temperatures. My screen did not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.net j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Hi, I think you’re making a mistake in your test. You probably are using a finger to press the home button that you have registered as a finger print to activate SIRI. If I use my index finger which is my finger print It works just as you said but, if I use another finger to activate SIRI, it gives me the weather and when I tap on the weather channel button, it only brings me back to my unlock button. Nothing doing. I’m using a 5S I thought it strange that you could get in that easily. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net mailto:j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I could and did replicate this problem. Sent from my iPhone On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:58 PM, Ron Pelletier ron.pellet...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hi, I think you’re making a mistake in your test. You probably are using a finger to press the home button that you have registered as a finger print to activate SIRI. If I use my index finger which is my finger print It works just as you said but, if I use another finger to activate SIRI, it gives me the weather and when I tap on the weather channel button, it only brings me back to my unlock button. Nothing doing. I’m using a 5S I thought it strange that you could get in that easily. Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 11:12 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list
RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure
Hi, That’s because the original person who wrote about this didn’t realize he was pushing the home button to invoke SIRI with a recognized finger print finger. If anyone else uses the phone they can get to SIRI by pushing the home button but, the finger print reader is on that button and, if its not your finger, it doesn’t work Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure That's curious. I have my Touch ID and Passcode settings turned on to allow access to Siri from a locked screen but when I tried beating the system by asking for the temperature, nothing happened when I double tapped on the Weather Channel button below the provided temperatures. My screen did not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com mailto:talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.net j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email
RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure
Ron, Thanks for that clarification. I must have missed that post but yes, that would make a big difference if one is calling Siri by using the finger set for the Touch ID. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Pelletier Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 4:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi, That's because the original person who wrote about this didn't realize he was pushing the home button to invoke SIRI with a recognized finger print finger. If anyone else uses the phone they can get to SIRI by pushing the home button but, the finger print reader is on that button and, if its not your finger, it doesn't work Ron Danvers From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alan Lemly Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2015 11:01 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Defeating Touch ID with Siri was RE: Iphones no longer secure That's curious. I have my Touch ID and Passcode settings turned on to allow access to Siri from a locked screen but when I tried beating the system by asking for the temperature, nothing happened when I double tapped on the Weather Channel button below the provided temperatures. My screen did not change nor did the iPhone 6 unlock. Alan Lemly -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mosen Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 10:32 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley mailto:j_gil...@att.net j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com
Re: Iphones no longer secure
when you double tap the weather channel it takes you directly into safari. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:37 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I too stand corrected. - Original Message - From: Richard Turner To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried about this, you can disable Siri access at the lock screen under the touch id and pass code settings. But, it looks quite secure if you either do not have a fingerprint set or use a different finger. Richard On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators
Re: Iphones no longer secure
It didn't make a difference in my case. I double tapped the weather channel and my fingernail to press the home button and was right in. - Original Message - From: Andrea Roveretto To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:40 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: Iphones no longer secure
The important moment is when you ask siri... its there your fingerpring is recognised... so try invoching siri with a finger not registered as fingerprint. Il 27/04/2015 12:31, Robert Doc wright ha scritto: It didn't make a difference in my case. I double tapped the weather channel and my fingernail to press the home button and was right in. - Original Message - *From:* Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:40 PM *Subject:* Re: Iphones no longer secure You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions
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As others pointed out, Touch Id is probably reading your fingerprint as you are pressing the home button. This method does not work, if it did it would be all over the internet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc wright Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.com To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following
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I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com mailto:margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net mailto:j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Sounds like a good idea. I probably will. I had left it on, because it's easier, silly me. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 11:31 PM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote: Hi Joney, this is easily addressed. You can prevent Siri from being used without unlocking your device. To enable this, in iOS 8 you'll find it in Settings, Touch ID and Passcode, under the Allow Access when locked section. Turn Siri off from there. Actually I would turn pretty much everything off in that section. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org On 28/04/2015, at 3:12 pm, Joney talk2o...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately, it worked for me too. I was hoping that kind of thing would not work, as when I go home, I'd like to keep it out of partying fingers. However, that just means we go back to the same old same all, commonsense. :-) Joney If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it. On Apr 27, 2015, at 10:00 PM, Margaret Booth margaretebo...@gmail.com wrote: I just tried it on my iPhone 6 and I had to put in my password in. Margaret Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 4:14 am, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I don’t know what biometric is, but some mounths back i read about someone from the hacker community that stated it is possible to take a picture of the finger while people are walking in the city. A camera that good is hard to believe and isn’t it some biometric stuff with the touch-id? How he or they then do it was not mentioned in the short article. They said it was possible to do it. Take care 27. apr. 2015 kl. 15:47 skrev Sieghard Weitzel siegh...@live.ca: As others pointed out, Touch Id is probably reading your fingerprint as you are pressing the home button. This method does not work, if it did it would be all over the internet. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robert Doc wright Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:27 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I am running the latest iso and this does by pass the touch id. Just as he described. It didn't at first but it did the second time. - Original Message - From: Alex Hall To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 12:27 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Amann, I do respect your opinion but, please allow me to respectfully say that you are all wet. What you are saying is that it is worth nothing to lock the phone. Anyone knows that, no matter how many locks you have on your house, you will never stop an experienced burglar from getting in. I have an alarm system on my apartment and I always lock my door when I leave. I often analyze how easily a professional could get in here if he or she really wanted to come in. Do you really think that everyone who has an alarm system on their house absolutely believe that nobody can go in? We all know but its an extra layer of protection that keeps the punks out. Same thing with your phone. Punks won't be able to get into your phone but an experienced hacker will always find the way but, if they are that good, its not worth the investment of their time for such a small item. A pro would go into a store for its diamonds but he won't risk coming into my place for a computer and a TV. Ron Danvers -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. Not security theater at all. If you are seriously insinuating that a casual Google search will allow your run of the mill mugger to bypass your passcode and or touch ID in a way that allows them to access your data then I'd be very interested in hearing some specifics. Lets not forget that the hardware hack that got a lot of media attention a month or so ago no longer works. As a side note, I'd wager that my iPhone is more secure than your average computer due to the amount of control that Apple has at a very low level. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Whilst I agree that to a certain extent where there's a will there's a way, unless you've been annoying any 4 letter agencies, I personally feel that saying that a passcode offers very little extra security is incorrect. Lets not forget that the workaround that was posted to the list has now been proven to be ineffective. Additionally, with all due respect, whilst we could debate the definition of secure data, I'd wager that you might not be aware of quite how much data iOS stores without making it overly clear to you. For example, do you really consider your wireless network password/s, where you've traveled to and any contact information data that you wouldn't mind sharing with the public? Cheers, Ben. Aman -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. Not security theater at all. If you are seriously insinuating that a casual Google search will allow your run of the mill mugger to bypass your passcode and or touch ID in a way that allows them to access your data then I'd be very interested in hearing some specifics. Lets not forget that the hardware hack that got a lot of media attention a month or so ago no longer works. As a side note, I'd wager that my iPhone is more secure than your average computer due to the amount of control that Apple has at a very low level. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Whilst I agree that to a certain extent where there's a will there's a way, unless you've been annoying any 4 letter agencies, I personally feel that saying that a passcode offers very little extra security is incorrect. Lets not forget that the workaround that was posted to the list has now been proven to be ineffective. Additionally, with all due respect, whilst we could debate the definition of secure data, I'd wager that you might not be aware of quite how much data iOS stores without making it overly clear to you. For example, do you really consider your wireless network password/s, where you've traveled to and any contact information data that you wouldn't mind sharing with the public? Cheers, Ben. Aman -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Hi Sieghard, It's good to see you around. I have to disagree with you here, though, if I may. First, I am not at all concerned about the passcode being too short and being forced because of its shortness. If I had anything that needed protection with a long passcode, it probably shouldn't be on my phone anyway. What renders the passcode useless is basically tricks like the one posted by the original poster in this thread. Obviously, that one doesn't work, but there are, depending on your iOS version, plenty that do. Keep in mind, also, that these tricks are themselves rendered useless by publicity. That is, if a person knows how to break the passcode and is dishonest, he would not pass that information around too publicly in case, as happened in the 7.x series, Apple patched the hole. The fact that even so, there have been quite a few exploits published and patched makes me seriously doubt that the passcode system is secure enough to bother with the inconvenience of even a short code. Personally, if I had information that I was nervous about on the phone, I would put in a long code and hope for the best, but wouldn't expect the best, nor would I keep that information on the phone any longer than absolutely necessary. As for touch ID, I should say that I have a 5S but use it in a Defender case for the 5. One of the reasons I do that is because I don't want, under any circumstance, to use Touch ID. I don't use Touch ID because I don't trust Apple, I don't trust them not to leak if it's in their interest, I don't trust them to be smart about how they handle the data, and I don't trust them to be truthful about appropriate isolation of fingerprint data. Given that changing the finger print is a bit more difficult than changing a password, using it on a mobile device is too risky, in my view. I should say that I wouldn't trust Google or any other phone manufacturer, either, I just think biometric security, particularly with the fingerprint, is hopelessly unsafe if you don't design the system yourself, and if you design the system yourself, there goes the convenience factor. As for not locking up the car, I don't think one should lock the car to keep it from being stolen. The point of the lock is to do two things, first, it keeps the insurance company from complaining that you didn't lock the car, it is the standard practice, and secondly, it keeps people who for some reason try the handle with no intent to steal out of the car. As you say, most locks on cars, and indeed on houses, are broken easily enough. Finally, I'm not saying the passcode is useless for everyone, just for me. For example, the passcode may be useful if there are young children in the house who like to play with the phone, or if there are people in the house or workplace who want to snoop on the phone and don't want to put effort into it. The fact that I don't have such impediments doesn't mean that others don't and that they may not want to use a code. My response was only to the original poster who seemed surprised that he thought he could avoid the passcode. As it turns out, his particular example was wrong, but he still shouldn't be surprised if one day the avoidance is possible, it has been before and I have no doubt will be again. Aman ph...@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 4:31 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Iphones no longer secure Hi Aman, I beg to differ, in my opinion enabling passcode and touch Id offers a great deal of security and if you were concerned about how relatively easy it is to break a 4-digit passcode, you can always disable simple passcode and use a 8 or 10 digit password with letters, numbers and all that. Touch Id of course makes it super easy to unlock your iPhone so that the actual passcode is only required when you reboot your phone which typically is not that often so using a more difficult passcode may be justified. The main reason why I upgraded from my 4S to the 5S at the time was Touch Id and even if I don't have very sensitive data on my phone, I still wouldn't want people to have access to my contact list, pictures, text messages or emails. Also, I think there is a difference whether your phone is stolen by somebody who thinks he can make a few bucks reselling it or by a skilled hacker who thinks you have information on your phone which warrants an effort of at least hours or maybe days to try and break into it. I think the chances my phone is stolen by somebody like that are pretty small. Furthermore, if my phone is locked with a passcode/Touch Id, somebody who steals it cannot disable Find my iPhone nearly as easily although I believe even a phone with no security which has Find my iPhone turned on requires you to enter your Apple Id password when you try to disable Find my iPhone. Anyhow, to me using
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I agree passcodes are not a silver bullet when it comes to security, but as my father used to say, Locks are just meant to keep honest people out. A passcode will keep someone from doing some casual snooping, and if I ever lose my iPhone, will give me time to contact my carrier and report it stolen, so whoever finds it can't run up a cell phone bill for me. I'm just explaining why I use a passcode. I'm not passing any judgement on anyone who does or doesn't use a passcode. On 4/26/2015 1:58 PM, Aman Singer wrote: Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc722487.aspx The whole thing is worth reading, but one of the laws or more accurately descriptions, says: Law #3: If a bad guy has unrestricted physical access to your computer, it's not your computer anymore A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. As to this particular method of attack, the user can simply make sure Siri doesn't work on the lock screen. Again, though, it doesn't much matter, there are other methods. Keep your phone with you and, in most cases, you need not worry about physical access without your knowing about it. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Aman -- -- Christopher (CJ) Chaltain at Gmail -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Hi Christopher, I have set mine to “Immediately” and interestingly enough when I double tap on this where usually I get the options for 1 minute, 2 minutes and so on, “Immediately” is the only choice on my 5S. Not sure why this is, but right now I haven’t found anywhere else where I could change this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher J Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015 1:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com . To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com . Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Could it be because you have Touch ID enabled? I'm just guessing since I still have an iPhone 4S. On 4/26/2015 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Christopher, I have set mine to “Immediately” and interestingly enough when I double tap on this where usually I get the options for 1 minute, 2 minutes and so on, “Immediately” is the only choice on my 5S. Not sure why this is, but right now I haven’t found anywhere else where I could change this. Regards, Sieghard *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher J Chaltain *Sent:* Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com *Subject:* Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015 1:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried about this, you can disable Siri access at the lock screen under the touch id and pass code settings. But, it looks quite secure if you either do not have a fingerprint set or use a different finger. Richard On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015 1:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or
RE: Iphones no longer secure
Hi Aman, I beg to differ, in my opinion enabling passcode and touch Id offers a great deal of security and if you were concerned about how relatively easy it is to break a 4-digit passcode, you can always disable simple passcode and use a 8 or 10 digit password with letters, numbers and all that. Touch Id of course makes it super easy to unlock your iPhone so that the actual passcode is only required when you reboot your phone which typically is not that often so using a more difficult passcode may be justified. The main reason why I upgraded from my 4S to the 5S at the time was Touch Id and even if I don't have very sensitive data on my phone, I still wouldn't want people to have access to my contact list, pictures, text messages or emails. Also, I think there is a difference whether your phone is stolen by somebody who thinks he can make a few bucks reselling it or by a skilled hacker who thinks you have information on your phone which warrants an effort of at least hours or maybe days to try and break into it. I think the chances my phone is stolen by somebody like that are pretty small. Furthermore, if my phone is locked with a passcode/Touch Id, somebody who steals it cannot disable Find my iPhone nearly as easily although I believe even a phone with no security which has Find my iPhone turned on requires you to enter your Apple Id password when you try to disable Find my iPhone. Anyhow, to me using Touch Id if your device supports it is a no brainer even if you just use it because it's faster and easier to unlock the phone than finding and double tapping the Unlock button. I have to press the home button even if I don't have any security enabled so I might as well press it and leave my finger on it for a second so it unlocks my phone with Touch Id. In some ways not using it would be like not locking your car because after all, a professional and skilled auto thief will be able to steal it whether it's locked or not. Regards, Sieghard -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Aman Singer Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:59 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc722487.aspx The whole thing is worth reading, but one of the laws or more accurately descriptions, says: Law #3: If a bad guy has unrestricted physical access to your computer, it's not your computer anymore A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. As to this particular method of attack, the user can simply make sure Siri doesn't work on the lock screen. Again, though, it doesn't much matter, there are other methods. Keep your phone with you and, in most cases, you need not worry about physical access without your knowing about it. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Aman -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I am unable to reproduce this with either an iPhone 5S or an iPhone 6+. Are you certain you are not activating the fingerprint unlock sensor? David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA Email: dchitten...@gmail.com Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 Sent from my iPhone On 27 Apr 2015, at 06:14, Jeremy Gilley j_gil...@att.net wrote: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Iphones no longer secure
You are right... I just tried now using another finger and it will ask me for the code when I click on the weather channel button. Il 26/04/2015 20:37, Alex Hall ha scritto: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by
Re: Iphones no longer secure
You must be touching your finger on the home button. As others have said I cannot replicate your situation. On 4/26/15, Richard Turner rich...@turner42.com wrote: I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried about this, you can disable Siri access at the lock screen under the touch id and pass code settings. But, it looks quite secure if you either do not have a fingerprint set or use a different finger. Richard On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to
Re: Iphones no longer secure
yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Hi, It's because of touch ID. If you have chosen to use touch ID to unlock your phone you ask Siri the temperature you can access Safari as you say, but if you don't use touch ID to unlock the phone you are prompted to enter your passcode. Cheers, Ben. On 4/26/15, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: Iphones no longer secure
I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com mailto:mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone
RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure problem solved
Thanks for clarifying that. I did try with another finger and it didn't work. I was about to be an upset person if it could have been broken through that easily. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I have all the security systems active. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list
Re: Iphones no longer secure
Hi Jeremy and all, Around fifteen years ago now, someone at Microsoft wrote something he called the ten immutable laws of security https://technet.microsoft.com/library/cc722487.aspx The whole thing is worth reading, but one of the laws or more accurately descriptions, says: Law #3: If a bad guy has unrestricted physical access to your computer, it's not your computer anymore A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. As to this particular method of attack, the user can simply make sure Siri doesn't work on the lock screen. Again, though, it doesn't much matter, there are other methods. Keep your phone with you and, in most cases, you need not worry about physical access without your knowing about it. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Aman -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [Bulk] Re: IPhones no longer secure
I did it that way and was asked for my pass code. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Jeremy Gilley Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I have all the security systems active. From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important
RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure
Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I have all the security systems active. _ From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop
Re: Iphones no longer secure
The same happened to me. I was prompted for my pass code. I have an iPhone 6 running the latest software. Lois Lois Butterfield, Certified Scentsy Consultant http://loisbutterfield.scentsy.us lbutterfie...@cfl.rr.com 407-276-4173 Wonderful scents without the flame. From: Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group
RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure
Jeremy, have you handed your phone to someone else and instructed them to try it? If so, what happens? At 02:43 PM 4/26/2015, you wrote: Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I have all the security systems active. -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.itand...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.commehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone
Re: Iphones no longer secure
yeah. it's reading your fingerprint as you hold the button down. At 02:44 PM 4/26/2015, you wrote: I fell for the same silly mistake the person posting the message did. If you don't use the same finger you used to set a fingerprint, it won't work. But, if you hold the home button with a fingerprinted finger, it seems like you've bypassed the security but you have not. If anyone is worried about this, you can disable Siri access at the lock screen under the touch id and pass code settings. But, it looks quite secure if you either do not have a fingerprint set or use a different finger. Richard On Apr 26, 2015, at 11:37 AM, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.commehg...@icloud.com wrote: I'm not sure then. Unless it's something to do with TouchID? Is it possible that it read your fingerprint when you pressed the Home button to activate Siri, so it already knows you are authorized? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.itand...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.itand...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.commehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators
RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure problem solved
there you go! At 02:45 PM 4/26/2015, you wrote: Thanks for clarifying that. I did try with another finger and it didn't work. I was about to be an upset person if it could have been broken through that easily. -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:43 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure Lock your phone completely. Then just hold down the home button to ask seri the question what is the tempature. Then follow the steps as I stated earlier. I have my phone to have the finger print or the 4 didget code. I have made sure I have all the security systems active. -- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Alex Hall Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 2:27 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: [Bulk] Re: Iphones no longer secure I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto mailto:and...@andrearoveretto.itand...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.comviphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to mailto:viphone@googlegroups.comviphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphonehttp://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optouthttps://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall mailto:mehg...@icloud.commehg...@icloud.com -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you
RE: Iphones no longer secure
attack is less painful than the death of a thousand cuts. Great as far as it goes but it doesn't go too far. I should also say that the iPhone is not at all secure against Apple themselves. The amount of data they can collect makes me shudder. If I weren't blind, I would never use such a thing. You write: Additionally, with all due respect, whilst we could debate the definition of secure data, I'd wager that you might not be aware of quite how much data iOS stores without making it overly clear to you. You're probably right, there is probably data that is being saved that I don't know about, though I do try to keep up. I have, not uncharitably, been described as a privacy nut. My concerns, such as they are, are not of the thief getting that data, as I said, theft of the phone isn't too much of a problem, but of it leaking to advertisers and others over the network, I have no doubt that's happening. As to the two items you mention, passwords and contacts, the first thing I would do if any phone with saved passwords, for wireless networks or anything else, went missing is to change those passwords. I would do that whether I did or didn't have a passcode on the phone, there would be no reason to take the risk of those passwords getting out even if I had a passcode and thought the passcode was secure. As to my travels, they're open to anyone who wants them, any private travels would mean that I should leave my phone at home. As to contacts, I keep them in my head, not on the phone. Finally, let me say that it's a pleasure to find someone who has actually thought about these things, most people don't even think about what is on their phone, they just apply the quickest security method and leave it there. Aman From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben Mustill-Rose Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 6:26 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Hi, I'm sorry but I have to disagree with a number of your points. You said: On 4/26/15, Aman Singer aman.sin...@gmail.com wrote: A smartphone is nothing more or less than a computer. The passcode/fingerprint is simply security theatre, it makes things look secure and may be secure against someone who doesn't have Google, but it is not secure in fact. Once the phone is in the hands of someone who wants and is willing to bypass the security, nothing is secure in fact, it only depends on how much trouble the attacker is willing to go to. Not security theater at all. If you are seriously insinuating that a casual Google search will allow your run of the mill mugger to bypass your passcode and or touch ID in a way that allows them to access your data then I'd be very interested in hearing some specifics. Lets not forget that the hardware hack that got a lot of media attention a month or so ago no longer works. As a side note, I'd wager that my iPhone is more secure than your average computer due to the amount of control that Apple has at a very low level. This is one of the reasons why I have no passcode on my phone, it offers very little extra security but does offer an inconvenience when I want to unlock the phone. I do not keep any secure data on my phone, any data that I object to the public having access to, simply because the chance of theft is too high and, as we see, the passcode is not of much use. Whilst I agree that to a certain extent where there's a will there's a way, unless you've been annoying any 4 letter agencies, I personally feel that saying that a passcode offers very little extra security is incorrect. Lets not forget that the workaround that was posted to the list has now been proven to be ineffective. Additionally, with all due respect, whilst we could debate the definition of secure data, I'd wager that you might not be aware of quite how much data iOS stores without making it overly clear to you. For example, do you really consider your wireless network password/s, where you've traveled to and any contact information data that you wouldn't mind sharing with the public? Cheers, Ben. Aman -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit
Re: Iphones no longer secure
That might be it. It makes little sense to have it not lock immediately because if you use the home button, instead of power to unlock, it's almost as fast as not having a pass code. - Original Message - From: Christopher J Chaltain To: viphone@googlegroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure Could it be because you have Touch ID enabled? I'm just guessing since I still have an iPhone 4S. On 4/26/2015 3:32 PM, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: Hi Christopher, I have set mine to “Immediately” and interestingly enough when I double tap on this where usually I get the options for 1 minute, 2 minutes and so on, “Immediately” is the only choice on my 5S. Not sure why this is, but right now I haven’t found anywhere else where I could change this. Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher J Chaltain Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 11:54 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Iphones no longer secure I'm not exactly sure what you're saying, but there is an option where you can only require a passcode after you haven't used your phone for a certain period of time. Go into Settings - Passcode and see what the require passcode option is set to. Mine is set to after one minute. On 4/26/2015 1:34 PM, Andrea Roveretto wrote: yes I have the last available update, and I don't have any option asking not to require the pass code. Il 26/04/2015 20:27, Alex Hall ha scritto: I just tried this on an iPhone 5 with iOS8.3. I was prompted to enter my passcode, as expected. Are you certain your device is running the latest iOS release? Do you have it set to not require a passcode within a certain amount of time after being locked? If so, are you waiting until that time passes before trying this? On Apr 26, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Andrea Roveretto and...@andrearoveretto.it wrote: I can confirm the same thing works on iphone 5s, just tried it... really I am wothout words Il 26/04/2015 20:14, Jeremy Gilley ha scritto: So, I have had my new iphone less then 24 hours and have found a way to bypass every single security on the phone. This will bypass your finger print and your pass code and give me direct access to the phone. I thought this was secure? To do the trick is to ask Seri what the temperature is. In the lower right hand corner pass the times of the day with the temperature there is a weather channel button. Click on the button that will open the internet or safari. Once you open safari, hit the home button to close out of the net and it takes you back to your home screen or back to the desktop as I like to call it lol. I have the Iphone 6+. Not sure if this will work on other phones. I mean like the 5S and 6. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- The following information is important for all members of the viphone list. All new members to the this list are moderated by default. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. The archives for this list can be searched at http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/. --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups VIPhone group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to viphone@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/viphone. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- Have a great day, Alex Hall
