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Well apparently I was wrong, Richard since posted the battery specs which Apple now has released and strictly by capacity the 13 Pro's battery is slightly smaller than the one for the 13. How long the battery lasts in real life is so extremely subjective anyways and the values they give for how many hours of playback and talk time you get are measured in very specific and precise lab settings. You could have a poor cell connection with an iPhone 13 Max and maybe have some apps installed which don't do power management well and next thing your battery life is worse than that of an iPhone Mini with a great connection and nothing much installed on it. I find people's obsession with battery life is often exaggerated, the fact is that no iPhone or Android phone for that matter usually has the kind of battery life where you only have to charge it every 3 days or even every 2 days depending on use so as long as my iPhone gets me comfortably through the day with reasonably heavy use including maybe a couple of hours of GPS use, some long phone calls, checking emails and using whatever other apps I usually use then that is fine and even my iPhone 11 does this very nicely. And if you really use it so heavily that you run out of juice before you can recharge then just buy a battery case or an external battery so you can top it up for 15 or 20 minutes in between. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: September 20, 2021 11:20 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Hi Sieghard Why is it then that in the specs of the iphone 13 pro the battery will last longer fort he pro? Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: maandag 20 september 2021 19:48 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective That is not correct, the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro have the same battery, the Pro Max of course has a significantly larger battery and while the larger screen size probably uses up more power as well, you still gain a bit. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Sent: September 20, 2021 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Pro models have a much better battery than the standard models too. Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Michael Feir Verzonden: zondag 19 september 2021 18:00 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet.
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Hi Sieghard Why is it then that in the specs of the iphone 13 pro the battery will last longer fort he pro? Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Sieghard Weitzel Verzonden: maandag 20 september 2021 19:48 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective That is not correct, the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro have the same battery, the Pro Max of course has a significantly larger battery and while the larger screen size probably uses up more power as well, you still gain a bit. From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com <mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Sent: September 20, 2021 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Pro models have a much better battery than the standard models too. Van: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Namens Michael Feir Verzonden: zondag 19 september 2021 18:00 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reac
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Apple reveals iPhone 13 battery sizes, uploads 7-minute hands-on video By Joe Svetlik about 7 hours ago Apple has shown us some more details on the iPhone 13 ahead of the new range going on sale on Friday. Not only has it revealed the exact battery size for each handset, but it's also posted a 7-minute video guide on YouTube. Take a look: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72cAe_2LAFQ Admittedly there's no new information here, but it's still nice to see the phones from more angles and outside of the confines of a launch event. Now, battery sizes. Apple is notoriously cagey when it comes to the exact capacities of its iPhone batteries, preferring to say how many hours of use they can provide instead. That was true of last Tuesday's launch event too, when Apple only told us how much longer the phones would last than their predecessors. But now we have some hard stats to go on. They have been published in a filing on the website of hazardous material information and response company Chemtrec (via 9to5Mac). The filing shows that battery sizes are up an average of 13 per cent compared to the iPhone 12 family. iPhone 13 mini battery: 9.34Wh (up 9 per cent on iPhone 12 mini) iPhone 13 battery: 12.41Wh (up 15.1 per cent on iPhone 12) iPhone 13 Pro battery: 11.97Wh (up 11 per cent on iPhone 12 Pro) iPhone 13 Pro Max battery: 16.75Wh (up 18.5 per cent on iPhone 12 Pro Max) The batteries are measured in watt-hours rather than milliamp hours, which is the usual measure for a device's battery size. As you may have noticed, the iPhone 13 Pro actually has a smaller battery than the iPhone 13. That's because there's less space inside due to the addition of a 120Hz screen, extra GPU core, and extra cameras (both phones are the same size). We'll have to see how this impacts battery life. Apple claims that the iPhone 13 mini and Pro will last 1.5 hours longer than their iPhone 12 equivalents and that the iPhone 13 and Pro Max outlast their predecessors by 2.5 hours. We'll find out soon enough in our reviews... The above is from: Apple reveals iPhone 13 battery sizes, uploads 7-minute hands-on video | What Hi-Fi? (whathifi.com)<https://www.whathifi.com/news/apple-reveals-iphone-13-battery-sizes-uploads-7-minute-hands-on-video> Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 10:48 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective That is not correct, the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro have the same battery, the Pro Max of course has a significantly larger battery and while the larger screen size probably uses up more power as well, you still gain a bit. From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> Sent: September 20, 2021 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Pro models have a much better battery than the standard models too. Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Michael Feir Verzonden: zondag 19 september 2021 18:00 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cf83ecb6ffe7f4016576508d97c5ec93b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637677568813681165%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=67CnndXvGr7Tg9tbNKd3PbJoyzzIq9eS4QIw%2F8XPyXE%3D&reserved=
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That is not correct, the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro have the same battery, the Pro Max of course has a significantly larger battery and while the larger screen size probably uses up more power as well, you still gain a bit. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of davycupp...@gmail.com Sent: September 20, 2021 9:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Pro models have a much better battery than the standard models too. Van: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> Namens Michael Feir Verzonden: zondag 19 september 2021 18:00 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Onderwerp: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=i4Tt%2B1oDSiuWYhaogC5Rm5WVBjFI%2FW5
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Pro models have a much better battery than the standard models too. Van: viphone@googlegroups.com Namens Michael Feir Verzonden: zondag 19 september 2021 18:00 Aan: viphone@googlegroups.com Onderwerp: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: <https://www.turner42.com> https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=i4Tt%2B1oDSiuWYhaogC5Rm5WVBjFI%2FW5wmQpnQH7tQPw%3D&reserved=0> > > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.co
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I just think it a bit odd that they would bring out 2 minis so close together if it’s to be the last. My logic says they’d keep the 12 mini for a couple of years then maybe bring out another. Still, that’s only my logic. :) All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 18:53, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms > almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system > for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do > not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a > phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a > mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The > deals will go away in spring 2022. > > Kelly > > > > On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> LOL, Seigard. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, >> maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 >> >> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of >> Carolyn >> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate >> brown phone would be fine. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is >> official or a rumour. >> >> >> >> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it >> does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. >> >> >> >> All the best >> >> Angie >> >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >> <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty >>> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just >>> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life >>> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put >>> on it. >> >>> >> >>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> >>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out >>>> I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea >>>> they’d bring out another mini so soon. >> >>>> >> >>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday >>>> 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, >>>> supernatural etc. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the best >> >>>> Angie >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >> >>>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>>>> season. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14
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I don't use Braille input, but otherwise, Chris, I agree with what you say about the Home Button. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Chaltain Sent: Monday, September 20, 2021 7:32 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective This isn't just true for sighted users. I like the fact that I don't have a home button on the front of my iPhone 11. I feel I have more screen real estate, and it's easier to use braille screen input. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at > times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more > than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good > for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. > > On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, >> >> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb >> and only currently use 50 approx, >> >> Because everythings on line or streamable. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb >> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need >> because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible >> books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want >> to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can >> then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I >> currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space >> on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium >> for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great >> and Apple will thank you. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're >>> getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from >>> in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar >>> at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find >>> clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing >>>> AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it." - Jane Wagner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My Web site: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww >>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7a83271cf
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A good point, but when we had the winter storm in Texas earlier this year, having more storage wouldn't have helped since we also lost power. I'm not trying to convince anyone to get less storage, but for how I use my phone, I'm OK with leveraging streaming and cloud services and not needing so much internal storage. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of lenron brown Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 8:53 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, > > But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb > and only currently use 50 approx, > > Because everythings on line or streamable. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb > option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because > I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, > well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to > listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then > either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently > have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but > as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 > Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank > you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it." - Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C4bdf62f3fd104e70fca608d97bd97 >>> 1f7%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676996116944370% >>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 >>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=8M9SD8oASe12YNbCaNOB9CFASZs6 >>> M8QyNcH%2BYmsKiRg%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 5
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This isn't just true for sighted users. I like the fact that I don't have a home button on the front of my iPhone 11. I feel I have more screen real estate, and it's easier to use braille screen input. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:03 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at > times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more > than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good > for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. > > On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, >> >> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb >> and only currently use 50 approx, >> >> Because everythings on line or streamable. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb >> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need >> because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible >> books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want >> to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can >> then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I >> currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space >> on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium >> for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great >> and Apple will thank you. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're >>> getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from >>> in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar >>> at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find >>> clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing >>>> AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it." - Jane Wagner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My Web site: >>>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fww >>>> w.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cd7a83271cf5644ca018708d97bd >>>> bd54a%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C6376770063718290 >>>> 03%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJB >>>> TiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=dr1aQ6BAKrbpcYyUstWvksN >>>> nflIoQ4t6nkG0gFmn5oc%3D&reserved=0 >>>> >>>> >>
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Not if you take in to account the new touch id buttons on the ipad air 4 and the new iPad mini, They are a touch id built in to the power button which doesn't take up any screen realestate, That's what was being meant. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 2:03 pm To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at > times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more > than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good > for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. > > On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, >> >> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb >> and only currently use 50 approx, >> >> Because everythings on line or streamable. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb >> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need >> because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible >> books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want >> to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can >> then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I >> currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space >> on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium >> for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great >> and Apple will thank you. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf >> Of Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're >>> getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from >>> in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar >>> at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find >>> clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing >>>> AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>>> look forward to
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Sighted people want phones with edge to edge screens. A home button consumes valuable screen real estate that can be used for apps and videos. On 9/19/21, lenron brown wrote: > streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service > when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at > times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more > than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good > for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. > > On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: >> Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, >> >> But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb and >> only currently use 50 approx, >> >> Because everythings on line or streamable. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, >> for >> me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see >> any >> sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, >> downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I just >> find it in my library where I can then either stream it or redownload it >> in >> about 10 seconds. I currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 >> Gb >> of free space on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a >> big >> premium for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's >> great >> and Apple will thank you. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >>> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >>> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >>> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >>> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Richard >>>> >>>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>>> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >>>> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >>>> improvements. >>>> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >>>> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >>>> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given >>>> that aut
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streaming doesn't always cut it. I mean we had horrible cell service when the last hurricane came through, and it's still messed up at times. I would rather have a nice amount of storage and that's more than 128 for sure. 256 is what my 12 pro max has. I think that's good for now but who knows what I will need in a couple years. On 9/19/21, Simon A Fogarty wrote: > Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, > > But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb and > only currently use 50 approx, > > Because everythings on line or streamable. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, for > me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see any > sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, > downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I just > find it in my library where I can then either stream it or redownload it in > about 10 seconds. I currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb > of free space on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big > premium for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great > and Apple will thank you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >>> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >>> improvements. >>> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >>> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >>> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given >>> that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the >>> pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can >>> keep things steadily in focus. >>> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >>> number of years. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>> I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. >>> We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working >>> great and doe
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Yeah that's would be great but hell the cost is crazy, But like you the lower storage is all I need although I've got 256gb and only currently use 50 approx, Because everythings on line or streamable. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 5:27 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank you. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: > The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that > sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard > and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting > the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the > standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a > painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever > enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller > percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to > have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner > > wrote: > >> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >> with it.” – Jane Wagner >> >> >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >> improvements. >> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given >> that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the >> pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can >> keep things steadily in focus. >> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >> number of years. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. >> We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working >> great and does everything I need. >> >> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> > >> > Hello Everyone, >> > >> > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >> > >> > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do >> > not have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the >> > understatement of the >> season. >> > >> > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >> > new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for >> > one more >> year >> > (smile). >> > >> > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not >> > relish t
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I don't believe it's not that they don't want it, I think it's more about they want something more up market or should I say out there in the world of different type of feature. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, 20 September 2021 6:12 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective And apparently Apple has a perfectly functioning home button with touch Id since they use it on certain iPad models including the newest iPad Mini, but I guess they don't want this for the iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: September 19, 2021 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple’s standards and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath over it. Podcasts and music drive my quest for more storage. I have 128 GB of storage and look forward to an iPhone 13 with 512 GB. A trip longer than two weeks can mean that all music gets listened to once. Old podcast episodes are retained until the vacation. The extra storage means I can listen to my favorite music on the road without having to turn to Spotify or Pandora and burn cell phone data. Apple’s biggest racket is charging $100 for 128 gigs of data, several times over what the local computer shop charges for a thumb drive of the same storage. Yet, the extra price is less than what someone would pay in extra data charges for a streaming service if that service were of no charge to the consumer. Kelly On 9/19/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb > option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because > I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, > well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to > listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then > either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently > have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but > as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 > Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank > you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>> look forward t
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I like my iPhone plan with Verizon. For $27 and some change, I get unlimited talk and text, and 5 gigs of data. I accidentally used a lot of that data up yesterday when watching movies. For me, data is important, because our internet is so crappy. Sometimes, our wifi just cuts out completely, and I have to turn it off, then back on again. If I need more data, then it would cost me only $10 for another 10 gigs of data. A couple weeks ago, I was at my brothers house dog sitting and it was awesome. I could download bard books on his WIFI incredibly fast. At the beginning of next year, I'll probably upgrade to the 15 gig option. Verizon also gives me $5 off because I use auto pay, and also $10 off per month because I've been a Verizon customer for so many years. On 9/19/21, Christopher Chaltain wrote: > A couple of things I do to live with my 128G of storage and within the data > limits of my plan are to leverage streaming services and cloud storage and > take advantage of a wi-fi network when available. I'll download books, > podcasts and music if I'm traveling and think I'll be away from wi-fi for > any length of time. I'm not paying exorbitant fees for downloading data and > I'm not running out of storage on my iPhone 11. This may not work for > everyone though. > > -- > Christopher (AKA CJ) > Chaltain at Outlook > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly > Pierce > Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 1:09 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor > mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone > 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple's standards > and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath > over it. > > Podcasts and music drive my quest for more storage. I have 128 GB of storage > and look forward to an iPhone 13 with 512 GB. A trip longer than two weeks > can mean that all music gets listened to once. Old podcast episodes are > retained until the vacation. The extra storage means I can listen to my > favorite music on the road without having to turn to Spotify or Pandora and > burn cell phone data. Apple's biggest racket is charging $100 for 128 gigs > of data, several times over what the local computer shop charges for a thumb > drive of the same storage. > Yet, the extra price is less than what someone would pay in extra data > charges for a streaming service if that service were of no charge to the > consumer. > > Kelly > > > > On 9/19/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >> And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb >> option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because >> I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, >> well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to >> listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then >> either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently >> have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but >> as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 >> Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will >> thank you. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of >> Joshua Hendrickson >> Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. >> The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. >> I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. >> Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. >> >> On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >>> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >>> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >>> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >>> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >>> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >>> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >>> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >>> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >>> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >>> >>> On Sun, Sep
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
A couple of things I do to live with my 128G of storage and within the data limits of my plan are to leverage streaming services and cloud storage and take advantage of a wi-fi network when available. I'll download books, podcasts and music if I'm traveling and think I'll be away from wi-fi for any length of time. I'm not paying exorbitant fees for downloading data and I'm not running out of storage on my iPhone 11. This may not work for everyone though. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 1:09 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple's standards and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath over it. Podcasts and music drive my quest for more storage. I have 128 GB of storage and look forward to an iPhone 13 with 512 GB. A trip longer than two weeks can mean that all music gets listened to once. Old podcast episodes are retained until the vacation. The extra storage means I can listen to my favorite music on the road without having to turn to Spotify or Pandora and burn cell phone data. Apple's biggest racket is charging $100 for 128 gigs of data, several times over what the local computer shop charges for a thumb drive of the same storage. Yet, the extra price is less than what someone would pay in extra data charges for a streaming service if that service were of no charge to the consumer. Kelly On 9/19/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb > option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because > I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, > well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to > listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then > either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently > have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but > as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 > Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank > you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it." - Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww >>> .turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C56dd70a4af2543a27a0308d97b988 >>> f31%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637676717435033608% >>> 7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6 >>> Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=0gs8iOXolEMnZLRzvC50ABh9Sivs >>> %2BpABlIbN982S4r4%3D&reserved=0 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegrou
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Thanks, Richard. I understand now.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 3:58 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Carolyn, and others,
If you read about the way Seeing AI and SuperSense through their Super LIDAR
app, are using this feature, it greatly enhances the ability to identify
objects and give far more accurate information about how far away from you that
object is.
Yes, it also enhances photography; but it also does a lot more.
Most uses granted will be for sighted people, like the fact that with LIDAR,
apps can take a photograph of a room and give good enough measurements that an
architect or interior decorater could make very good first draffts of their
designs.
This will be the second year of its existance and I'm hoping the uses to help
the visually impaired will continue to improve.
Plus, my wife can use my phone when she wants to take realy good photos/videos
Richard
"Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." --
Jane Wagner
website: www.turner42.com
On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote:
Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are
extra for steps, to mention one essential.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether
it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more
money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will
always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies,
then memory is a higher priority.
If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object
identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority.
The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB.
So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra
features.
Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it.
Later,
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site:
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that
sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro
models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what
most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for
substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point.
App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough
sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is
going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get
going.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner
mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Carolyn, and others, If you read about the way Seeing AI and SuperSense through their Super LIDAR app, are using this feature, it greatly enhances the ability to identify objects and give far more accurate information about how far away from you that object is. Yes, it also enhances photography; but it also does a lot more. Most uses granted will be for sighted people, like the fact that with LIDAR, apps can take a photograph of a room and give good enough measurements that an architect or interior decorater could make very good first draffts of their designs. This will be the second year of its existance and I'm hoping the uses to help the visually impaired will continue to improve. Plus, my wife can use my phone when she wants to take realy good photos/videos Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." -- Jane Wagner website: www.turner42.com On Sep 19, 2021, at 12:39 PM, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are extra for steps, to mention one essential. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB. So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features. Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it. Later, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19188cddf99445630a2408d97ba53cc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676771887330704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MrzHD%2FYkMvfFhQHBxEB9N27W5u3IIJx6nE6zJ50O34w%3D&reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19188cddf99445630a2408d97ba53cc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676771887330704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MrzHD%2FYkMvfFhQHBxEB9N27W5u3IIJx6nE6zJ50O34w%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19188cddf99445630a2408d97ba53cc2%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676771887330704%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MrzHD%2FYkMvfFhQHBxEB9N27W5u3IIJx6nE6zJ50O34w%3D&reserved=0 <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C19188cddf9
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Exactly - having same issue trying to buy mobile home, charges are extra for steps, to mention one essential. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 2:14 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB. So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features. Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it. Later, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc56af3a86bba4834f4a008d97b869556%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676640233565984%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r3qpEnFm8qTHOH4Qqhb1G180EJdKHQ0sMVPL1YH7OIc%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any ki
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Thanks, that answers my LIDAR question. I care nothing for photography; my
daughter-in-love has a pro, and she's the one that really likes to take
pictures. Still, Jim thinks that the iPhone has a great camera.
-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 12:00 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor
included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models.
Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most
blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially
less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers
need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a
smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to
have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com> > wrote:
I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI
and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense.
Richard
“Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with
it.” – Jane Wagner
My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com>
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of
Michael Feir
Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I
look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a
better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The
10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a
three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are
also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all
phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if
it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I
won't have to upgrade again for a number of years.
On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote:
I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading
yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great
and does everything I need.
> On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote:
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13.
>
> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models
do not have
> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement
of the season.
>
> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8,
had a new
> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for
one more year
> (smile).
>
> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not
relish the
> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being
part of its name
> (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to
install iOS 13!!!
> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin).
>
> Mark
>
>
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RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
What is LIDAR. Is it an app to download or something else? I am asking, because recently I had an email from AT&T saying I was due an upgrade. As far an upgrade, if I could get it now, I would want the 13 mini. If I am only eligible for a 12 and wait, I am wondering if I switch from post to prepay, if that would have an adverse effect on my eligibility for upgrade in a few months. Incidentally, I want Starlight. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 11:23 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com <https://www.turner42.com> From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net> > wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=i4Tt%2B1oDSiuWYhaogC5Rm5WVBjFI%2FW5wmQpnQH7tQPw%3D&reserved=0> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . > To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroup
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Just as any other company is charging extra for extra features whether it's a phone, a car, a computer or a barbecue, typically bigger means more money and more features means more money and bigger with more features will always cost the most; This is not a concept invented by Apple. From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: September 19, 2021 11:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB. So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features. Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it. Later, Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc56af3a86bba4834f4a008d97b869556%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676640233565984%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r3qpEnFm8qTHOH4Qqhb1G180EJdKHQ0sMVPL1YH7OIc%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
And apparently Apple has a perfectly functioning home button with touch Id since they use it on certain iPad models including the newest iPad Mini, but I guess they don't want this for the iPhone. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: September 19, 2021 11:09 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple’s standards and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath over it. Podcasts and music drive my quest for more storage. I have 128 GB of storage and look forward to an iPhone 13 with 512 GB. A trip longer than two weeks can mean that all music gets listened to once. Old podcast episodes are retained until the vacation. The extra storage means I can listen to my favorite music on the road without having to turn to Spotify or Pandora and burn cell phone data. Apple’s biggest racket is charging $100 for 128 gigs of data, several times over what the local computer shop charges for a thumb drive of the same storage. Yet, the extra price is less than what someone would pay in extra data charges for a streaming service if that service were of no charge to the consumer. Kelly On 9/19/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb > option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because > I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, > well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to > listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then > either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently > have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but > as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 > Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank > you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >>> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >>> improvements. >>> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >>> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >>> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful >>> given that aut
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Every year, Apple continues to develop a new version of touch ID. The rumor mill says the company actually created a prototype of the iPhone 13 with touch ID. Somehow, the new touch ID does not meet Apple’s standards and the team continues to develop the technology. I am not holding my breath over it. Podcasts and music drive my quest for more storage. I have 128 GB of storage and look forward to an iPhone 13 with 512 GB. A trip longer than two weeks can mean that all music gets listened to once. Old podcast episodes are retained until the vacation. The extra storage means I can listen to my favorite music on the road without having to turn to Spotify or Pandora and burn cell phone data. Apple’s biggest racket is charging $100 for 128 gigs of data, several times over what the local computer shop charges for a thumb drive of the same storage. Yet, the extra price is less than what someone would pay in extra data charges for a streaming service if that service were of no charge to the consumer. Kelly On 9/19/21, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, for > me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see any > sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, > downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I just > find it in my library where I can then either stream it or redownload it in > about 10 seconds. I currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb > of free space on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big > premium for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great > and Apple will thank you. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of > Joshua Hendrickson > Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. > The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. > I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. > Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. > > On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: >> The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that >> sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard >> and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting >> the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the >> standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a >> painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever >> enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller >> percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to >> have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner >> >> wrote: >> >>> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >>> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Richard >>> >>> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >>> with it.” – Jane Wagner >>> >>> >>> >>> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >>> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >>> >>> >>> >>> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >>> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >>> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >>> improvements. >>> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >>> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >>> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given >>> that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the >>> pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can >>> keep things steadily in focus. >>> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >>> number of years. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: >>> >>> I'm using an
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
IF one needs to keep a huge amount of pictures, music, books, movies, then memory is a higher priority. If one is focused on ease of picture taking, advances in object identification and location, then the camera features are a higher priority. The iPhone 13 with 512 GB is the same price as the 13 pro with 256 GB. So, pay a premium for extra memory, or pay a premium for extra features. Apple has you paying a premium for what you want any way you slice it. Later, Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 9:00 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote: I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Cc56af3a86bba4834f4a008d97b869556%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676640233565984%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=r3qpEnFm8qTHOH4Qqhb1G180EJdKHQ0sMVPL1YH7OIc%3D&reserved=0> From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.ma
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
And maybe next year the regular iPhone 14 will come with a 1 Tb option, for me the smallest storage option is more than I need because I don't see any sense in, for example, having all my Audible books, well over 900 by now, downloaded on my phone. Whenever I want to listen to a book again I just find it in my library where I can then either stream it or redownload it in about 10 seconds. I currently have a 64 Gb iPhone 11 and I have about 30 Gb of free space on it, but as I always say, to each their own, you pay a big premium for that 1 Tb storage, but if it is what you want then that's great and Apple will thank you. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Joshua Hendrickson Sent: September 19, 2021 9:49 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: > The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that > sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard > and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting > the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the > standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a > painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever > enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller > percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to > have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner > > wrote: > >> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI >> and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch >> with it.” – Jane Wagner >> >> >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On >> Behalf Of *Michael Feir >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I >> look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will >> prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related >> improvements. >> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better >> battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also >> attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given >> that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the >> pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can >> keep things steadily in focus. >> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >> number of years. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. >> We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working >> great and does everything I need. >> >> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> > >> > Hello Everyone, >> > >> > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >> > >> > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do >> > not have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the >> > understatement of the >> season. >> > >> > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >> > new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for >> > one more >> year >> > (smile). >> > >> > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not >> > relish the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 >> > being part of its >> name >> > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install >> > iOS >> 13!!! >> > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of th
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
My next phone which will be the 14 next year, will be the pro model. The pro model of the 13 is already up to 1 terabyte of internal storage. I'm hoping the 14 will have both touch ID and face ID. Having a much better chip then in the iPhone 8 will be very nice as well. On 9/19/21, Michael Feir wrote: > The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor > included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro > models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of > what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for > substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg > point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to > encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro > models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models > before things really get going. > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner > > wrote: > >> I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and >> Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Richard >> >> “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with >> it.” – Jane Wagner >> >> >> >> My Web site: https://www.turner42.com >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of >> *Michael Feir >> *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM >> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >> *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look >> forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a >> better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. >> The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery >> life >> and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera >> improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic >> stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind >> people, >> this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in >> focus. >> Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a >> number >> of years. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: >> >> I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll >> see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and >> does everything I need. >> >> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: >> > >> > Hello Everyone, >> > >> > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >> > >> > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >> > have >> > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >> season. >> > >> > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new >> > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more >> year >> > (smile). >> > >> > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >> > the >> > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its >> name >> > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS >> 13!!! >> > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> > -- >> > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >> list. >> > >> > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, >> > or >> if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the >> owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >> > >> > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >> > >> > The archives for this list can be searched at: >> > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C63767653708207
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
The thing about Lidar is you need to buy a Pro model to have that sensor included. There's a large jump in price between the standard and pro models. Unless you're really into photography, you're getting the bulk of what most blind people will really benefit from in the standard iPhone for substantially less money. This puts Lidar at a painful chicken and egg point. App developers need to find clever enough uses for Lidar to encourage enough sales on a smaller percentage of blind owners of pro models. I think Apple is going to have to bring Lidar to all iPhone models before things really get going. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:23 AM Richard Turner wrote: > I’m very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and > Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. > > > > > > > > > > Richard > > “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with > it.” – Jane Wagner > > > > My Web site: https://www.turner42.com > > > > > > *From:* viphone@googlegroups.com *On Behalf Of > *Michael Feir > *Sent:* Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look > forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a > better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. > The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life > and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera > improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic > stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, > this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. > Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number > of years. > > > > On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: > > I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll > see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and > does everything I need. > > > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the > season. > > > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more > year > > (smile). > > > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its > name > > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS > 13!!! > > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > > > Mark > > > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=i4Tt%2B1oDSiuWYhaogC5Rm5WVBjFI%2FW5wmQpnQH7tQPw%3D&reserved=0> > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu > <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F01d7aac1%252423469fc0%252469d3df40%2524%2540edu&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84d
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I'm very interested to see what LIDAR will do for us, with Seeing AI and Super LIDAR which is from the makers of SuperSense. Richard "Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it." - Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Michael Feir Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2021 6:08 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor > mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you > can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=i4Tt%2B1oDSiuWYhaogC5Rm5WVBjFI%2FW5wmQpnQH7tQPw%3D&reserved=0> > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to > viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgroups.google.com%2Fd%2Fmsgid%2Fviphone%2F01d7aac1%252423469fc0%252469d3df40%2524%2540edu&data=04%7C01%7C%7Ca9107ae3ee244435cf9708d97b6e917b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637676537082074095%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=EzUxt0%2FDcbkvUr58WgRd4kTTIISXHjYKKtOwr%2BkOmuk%3D&reserved=0>. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-ar
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I currently use a 10R and decided to upgrade to a 13 with 512 gb. I look forward to the extra storage. However, I also think the 13 will prove a better phone to make use of artificial intelligence related improvements. The 10R came out when that was just finding its stride. Better battery life and a three generation jump in the chip are also attractive. Camera improvements are also possibly quite helpful given that automatic stabilization is now on all phones rather than the pros. For blind people, this could be quite helpful if it really can keep things steadily in focus. Guess I'll find out. I'm hoping I won't have to upgrade again for a number of years. On Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 8:32 AM Mike Arrigo wrote: > I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll > see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and > does everything I need. > > > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the > season. > > > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more > year > > (smile). > > > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its > name > > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS > 13!!! > > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > > > Mark > > > > > > -- > > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > > --- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "VIPhone" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu > . > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or > if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the > owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F8B6F7DC-96A8-4A71-8229-FD17C5237012%40charter.net > . > -- Michael Feir Author of Personal Power; The iOS Edition http://michaelfeir.blogspot.com/2020/04/personal-power-ios-edition.html?m=1 Twitter: mfeir Skype: michael-feir Check out my blog at: http://www.michaelfeir.blogspot.ca -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CAE8cCzoi3AVG-%3DAW_HAmKvECknXiMuWk4E9XwOX5xm96Fvhrog%40mail.gmail.com.
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I'm using an iphone 10r here and have no interest in upgrading yet. We'll see what happens next year but my iphone 10r is still working great and does everything I need. > On Sep 16, 2021, at 1:07 AM, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/F8B6F7DC-96A8-4A71-8229-FD17C5237012%40charter.net.
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Very interesting about the iPhone 13! but for me, no IPhone upgrades! maybe until about 3 years or so; I'd like to give this SE 2nd generation (I got it June of last year), all its use! Remember that it's the body of an 8, with the innards of an 11. Gera Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel > El 16 sep 2021, a la(s) 11:53 p.m., li...@sadamahmed.com escribió: > > > Hi Mark and all, > As mentioned to another list member on here directly after the event, I'll be > staying put this year and watching to see what happens with iPhone 14 and > beyond. > It's very disappointing that there is no finger print reader once again. I > love using this feature on my Google phone. > I'm also more than delighted to keep my series 6 watch for as long as Watch > OS will be available in terms of updates. > The mini looks nice, but having only received my 5th gen device last year, > It's not required to spend so soon specially as it's working well and most > likely shall run 15 plus 16. My plan is just to wait for a while. > I'm more interested in settling into my new Quality Engineering role, Further > study at my University, As well as intensive O & M as I've moved into a new > exclusive private home after living in my current location for the last 23 > years. > Cheers guys for all the comments on the new hardware and banter. 😊 > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. > Taylor > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:08 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have any > kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the idea > of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0e5201d7ab7f%24e50fe760%24af2fb620%24%40sadamahmed.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an emai
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Hi Mark and all, As mentioned to another list member on here directly after the event, I'll be staying put this year and watching to see what happens with iPhone 14 and beyond. It's very disappointing that there is no finger print reader once again. I love using this feature on my Google phone. I'm also more than delighted to keep my series 6 watch for as long as Watch OS will be available in terms of updates. The mini looks nice, but having only received my 5th gen device last year, It's not required to spend so soon specially as it's working well and most likely shall run 15 plus 16. My plan is just to wait for a while. I'm more interested in settling into my new Quality Engineering role, Further study at my University, As well as intensive O & M as I've moved into a new exclusive private home after living in my current location for the last 23 years. Cheers guys for all the comments on the new hardware and banter. 😊 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of M. Taylor Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 4:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Hello Everyone, I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year (smile). Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/0e5201d7ab7f%24e50fe760%24af2fb620%24%40sadamahmed.com.
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Simon, I know what Yoda said. I was taking a bit of liberty with the original; but I guess that must not have been clear. I suppose the word "paraphrase was the wrong word to describe my "spin-off" from Yoda's original quote. O well. Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Simon A Fogarty Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 5:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Richard, Yoda said, Do or do not, There is no try! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Angie, That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th. Great day to have been born! All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that. Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful in general, 😊. Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone. When I worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others." To paraphrase what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should." Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C1e30072b0a4649f9c0f208d97974e5fc%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637674365252287485%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sdata=MeY54Jsmu0QdqoNyFnCphRIEw0CIU6CEvjYz24rrVkY%3D&reserved=0 -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I'm changing a word in this line. You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shity chocolate brown phone would be fine. I only changed a letter! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:30 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop recei
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Ah but Sieghard What green is apple green? And some apples are red, Or a mixture, But yes browns, Or karkey or kakk I’m sure as you state there could be interesting names in the brown range! From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:34 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn >>> - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Richard, Yoda said, Do or do not, There is no try! -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Richard Turner Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 3:40 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Angie, That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th. Great day to have been born! All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that. Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful in general, 😊. Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone. When I worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others." To paraphrase what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should." Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>> mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C >>> %7C5cba1d7f83854e2963fb08d97926d27f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aa >>> aa%7C1%7C0%7C637674029920940854%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w >>> LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Interesting article I read this morning on mac rumours, The iPad mini new has the a15 bionic chip, But they are saying its been clocked down to make it slower than the a15 bionic in the phones. Kind of a low move I think in the tablet if they have actually done that. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Pete Nalda Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 6:06 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Too bad about the mini, I love my mini V! Oh it’s so perfect I don’t know how much they could improve, safe for camera maybe and processor. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms > almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system > for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do > not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a > phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a > mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The > deals will go away in spring 2022. > > Kelly > > > >> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> LOL, Seigard. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour >> brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the >> best term 🤣 >> >> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On >> Behalf Of Carolyn >> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny >> chocolate brown phone would be fine. >> >> >> >> -Original Message----- >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if >> this is official or a rumour. >> >> >> >> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of >> course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. >> >> >> >> All the best >> >> Angie >> >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >> <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini >>> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does >>> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing >>> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle >>> the daily demand users put on it. >> >>> >> >>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> >>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini >>>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I >>>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon. >> >>>> >> >>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on >>>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The >>>> weird, supernatural etc. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the best >> >>>> Angie >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: >> >>>>>
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Hi Carolyn, Yeah I'm think ing the same thing, And have pretty much decided to wait until next year to replace my 11 pro max. It's still in great working condition But it's the watch I'm currently waiting for as my s4 is slowly dying with it's battery only lasting up to 12 hours per day, Minus if I'm working out. So the 7 might be a good upgrade -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Friday, 17 September 2021 7:38 am To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective They will go away in spring 2022? My problem is between a 13 mini and a 14, if a 14 might have fingerprint ID. Of course, I'm living without fingerprint, but this is way sooner than I wanted to replace my 11 that I bought in January of 2020. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022. Kelly On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > LOL, Seigard. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour > brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the > best term 🤣 > > And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny > chocolate brown phone would be fine. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if > this is official or a rumour. > > > > As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course > it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. > > > > All the best > > Angie > > > >> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini >> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does >> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing >> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the >> daily demand users put on it. > >> > >> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > >>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini >>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I >>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon. > >>> > >>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on >>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The >>> weird, supernatural etc. > >>> > >>> All the best > >>> Angie > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > >>>> > >>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do &g
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
They will go away in spring 2022? My problem is between a 13 mini and a 14, if a 14 might have fingerprint ID. Of course, I'm living without fingerprint, but this is way sooner than I wanted to replace my 11 that I bought in January of 2020. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 1:54 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022. Kelly On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > LOL, Seigard. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour > brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the > best term 🤣 > > And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On > Behalf Of Carolyn > Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny > chocolate brown phone would be fine. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if > this is official or a rumour. > > > > As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course > it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. > > > > All the best > > Angie > > > >> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini >> pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does >> better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing >> with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the >> daily demand users put on it. > >> > >> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > >>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini >>> came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I >>> had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon. > >>> > >>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on >>> Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The >>> weird, supernatural etc. > >>> > >>> All the best > >>> Angie > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > >>>> > >>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do >>>> not > >>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of >>>> the season. > >>>> > >>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a > >>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for >>>> one > >>>> more year (smile). > >>>> > >>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not >>>> relish > >>>> the idea of using any kind of device with t
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Too bad about the mini, I love my mini V! Oh it’s so perfect I don’t know how much they could improve, safe for camera maybe and processor. Egun On, Lagunak! (basque for G'day, Mates Louie P (Pete) Nalda Facebook.com/lpnalda Linkedin.com/in/lpnalda Twitter: @lpnalda > On Sep 16, 2021, at 12:53 PM, Kelly Pierce wrote: > > the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms > almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system > for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do > not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a > phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a > mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The > deals will go away in spring 2022. > > Kelly > > > >> On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: >> LOL, Seigard. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf >> Of Sieghard Weitzel >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, >> maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 >> >> And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of >> Carolyn >> Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate >> brown phone would be fine. >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM >> >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >> >> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective >> >> >> >> I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is >> official or a rumour. >> >> >> >> As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it >> does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. >> >> >> >> All the best >> >> Angie >> >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon >> <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty >>> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just >>> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life >>> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put >>> on it. >> >>> >> >>> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> >>>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out >>>> I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea >>>> they’d bring out another mini so soon. >> >>>> >> >>>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday >>>> 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, >>>> supernatural etc. >> >>>> >> >>>> All the best >> >>>> Angie >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Hello Everyone, >> >>>>> >> >>>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >> >>>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>>>> season. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> So, as for me, I have
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I don't have a mini, but I do prefer braille screen input on my iPhone 11 over my iPhone 7, especially when using it in landscape mode. The larger screen just gives me more room so my fingers aren't so cramped. The home button also gets in the way when using braille screen input on the iPhone 7. For these and other reasons, I do prefer using braille screen input in screen away mode. I just find it easier to make sure my fingers are oriented correctly, plus It works more consistently as I move back and forth between the iPhone 7 and the iPhone 11. -- Christopher (AKA CJ) Chaltain at Outlook -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of therealsandyfin...@gmail.com Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I suppose it varies from person to person, but have any of you mini users use Braille Screen Input? I like the idea of a small phone but wonder if (1) BSI is harder and (2) how is the audio? Is the speaker also smaller? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I'm doing. It's good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I'm totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they'd bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>> mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C >>> %7C8ab091e0ae174d3b149508d9792f4c9c%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aa >>> aa%7C1%7C0%7C637674066313480296%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w >>> LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sd >>> ata=97hbcnRsClYYirWHECfwWbbR6mjPUIkMHx565WCfwak%3D&reserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
the rumor for the end of the Mini is extremely strong. Apple confirms almost nothing. Apple is planning a big upgrade to the camera system for the 14, increasing to 48 megapixels from the current 12. They do not want to put resources trying to figure out how to cram this into a phone that is just five percent of their 12 lineup. If folks want a mini, like I do, run and get the deals this fall for the 13 mini. The deals will go away in spring 2022. Kelly On 9/16/21, Carolyn <4carol...@windstream.net> wrote: > LOL, Seigard. > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, > maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 > > And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? > > > > -Original Message- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of > Carolyn > Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate > brown phone would be fine. > > > > -Original Message- > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt > > Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective > > > > I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is > official or a rumour. > > > > As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it > does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. > > > > All the best > > Angie > > > >> On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: > >> > >> I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty >> early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just >> think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life >> issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put >> on it. > >> > >> On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: > >>> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some >>> reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out >>> I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea >>> they’d bring out another mini so soon. > >>> > >>> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday >>> 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, >>> supernatural etc. > >>> > >>> All the best > >>> Angie > >>> > >>> > >>>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor >>> <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Hello Everyone, > >>>> > >>>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > >>>> > >>>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not > >>>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>>> season. > >>>> > >>>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a > >>>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one > >>>> more year (smile). > >>>> > >>>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish > >>>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part > >>>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>>> install iOS 13!!! > >>>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > >>>> > >>>> Mark > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone >>>> list. > >>>> > >>>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
LOL, Seigard. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 11:34 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon <mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com> > wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> >>> > wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu> . Your list owner is Cara >>> Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com <mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/> >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >>> <mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> . >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I suppose it varies from person to person, but have any of you mini users use Braille Screen Input? I like the idea of a small phone but wonder if (1) BSI is harder and (2) how is the audio? Is the speaker also smaller? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3fda25af-f1e1-4f98-963c-16cb22fc33b4%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Angie, That is at least two of us on this list who were born on a Friday the 13th. Great day to have been born! All this nonsense about avoiding the number 13 is just that. Rather than being extra careful on the 13th, people would be wise to be careful in general, 😊. Whether one buys a new iPhone or not is such an individual choice, I certainly would never say someone "should" or "should not" buy a new phone. When I worked in the counseling field, my favorite phrase with people was to encourage them to "stop should'ing all over themselves as well as others." To paraphrase what Yoda says, "Do or do not...there is no should." Richard “Reality is the leading cause of stress for those who are in touch with it.” – Jane Wagner My Web site: https://www.turner42.com -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>> mail-archive.com%2Fviphone%40googlegroups.com%2F&data=04%7C01%7C >>> %7C5cba1d7f83854e2963fb08d97926d27f%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aa >>> aa%7C1%7C0%7C637674029920940854%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4w >>> LjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000&sd >>> ata=Szet24X1Hb6NpHJQSsP0Wx%2FZSaj5RpEvXBfjQMN1zIo%3D&reserved=0 >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Hmm, and other descriptive terms could also be applied to the colour brown, maybe Apple could start a contest to see who comes up with the best term 🤣 And then why has there never been an iPhone in colour Apple Green? -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Carolyn Sent: September 16, 2021 8:30 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon > mailto:gor...@gordonradio.com>> wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>. Your list owner is Cara Quinn >>> - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com<mailto:caraqu...@caraquinn.com> >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to >>> viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators dir
RE: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
You know, I never heard of one, but I think that a pretty, shiny chocolate brown phone would be fine. -Original Message- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Angie Nutt Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2021 9:16 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not >>> have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the >>> season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a >>> new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one >>> more year (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish >>> the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part >>> of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to >>> install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached >>> at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach >>> Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3fda25af-f1e1-4f98-963c-16cb22fc33b4%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this lis
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I keep hearing that the 13 mini will be the last mini; wondering if this is official or a rumour. As to battery: I get a day out of mine, often a bit more but of course it does depend on what I’m doing. It’s good enough for my needs. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 12:40, Gordon wrote: > > I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early > on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that > particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's > so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. > > On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: >> I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. >> Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that >> as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out >> another mini so soon. >> >> I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; >> also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. >> >> All the best >> Angie >> >> >>> On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: >>> >>> Hello Everyone, >>> >>> I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. >>> >>> To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have >>> any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. >>> >>> So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new >>> battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year >>> (smile). >>> >>> Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the >>> idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name >>> (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! >>> (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> -- >>> The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. >>> >>> If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if >>> you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners >>> or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. >>> >>> Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: >>> mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at >>> caraqu...@caraquinn.com >>> >>> The archives for this list can be searched at: >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "VIPhone" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. >> > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3fda25af-f1e1-4f98-963c-16cb22fc33b4%40gordonradio.com. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/7CB87767-DC06-49D2-B642-7D03FF228DC6%40comproom.co.uk.
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I like the idea of the mini, but Apple discontinued the 12 mini pretty early on because of poor sales. So I hope this one does better. I just think that particular phone could always be dealing with battery life issues since it's so small and trying to handle the daily demand users put on it. On 9/16/2021 5:34 AM, Angie Nutt wrote: I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon. I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. All the best Angie On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: Hello Everyone, I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year (smile). Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). Mark -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/3fda25af-f1e1-4f98-963c-16cb22fc33b4%40gordonradio.com.
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
I’m totally the opposite about the number 13; just love it for some reason. Was originally going to wait for it but when the 12 mini came out I got that as I love small phones. Also last Christmas I had no idea they’d bring out another mini so soon. I suppose one reason I love the number 13 is that I was born on Friday 13th; also superstition and the like fascinates me. The weird, supernatural etc. All the best Angie > On 16 Sep 2021, at 07:07, M. Taylor wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/8DD48E8B-C4B9-4089-A89E-BD465D10BC80%40comproom.co.uk.
Re: Mark on iPhone 13 from an iPhone 8 Perspective
Hi to all. I totally agree with you Mark. I will also wait another year before upgrading my iPhone8. I will have something to look forward to. Last night I had a question and called apple accessibility and I found out something totally awesome about the iPhone 13 pro. It can go as high as one terabyte of storage. That is so totally awesome. I can just fill that baby up with so many books. The battery life on the iPhone 13 is also really cool. I could get almost double the amount of battery life of my iPhone 8. If the iPhone 13pro has so much storage and such a good battery life, just imagine how cool the iPhone 14 will be. Also, if the iPhone 14 really does have some kind of touch ID, that would be perfect for me. I know the processor would be also very good on the iPhone 14 as well. I just have to start saving up money now. On 9/16/21, M. Taylor wrote: > Hello Everyone, > > I've enjoyed reading all of the comments on iPhone 13. > > To say that I was disappointed that this year's iPhone models do not have > any kind of fingerprint reader, would be the understatement of the season. > > So, as for me, I have updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS 14.8, had a new > battery installed earlier, today, and intend to hold out for one more year > (smile). > > Besides, not that I am superstitious or anything but I do not relish the > idea of using any kind of device with the number 13 being part of its name > (smile). It took all of my courage, back in the day, to install iOS 13!!! > (big Smile). Again, not superstitious, just careful (grin). > > Mark > > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: > mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at > caraqu...@caraquinn.com > > The archives for this list can be searched at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ > --- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "VIPhone" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/01d7aac1%2423469fc0%2469d3df40%24%40edu. > -- Joshua Hendrickson Joshua Hendrickson -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. Your list owner is Cara Quinn - you can reach Cara at caraqu...@caraquinn.com The archives for this list can be searched at: http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/ --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "VIPhone" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to viphone+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/viphone/CADUoy9vdqypEejmzzhsy1iCCtT-6i_GCOqKVK_mp%2BxMLkYetYQ%40mail.gmail.com.
