RE: BARD on the Echo 10- my mistake

[deidreandlouise]

Hello all 

I’m sorry I got you all excited about accessing BARD on an Echo device. I just 
realized it was NFB Newsline I never got working on the Echo. I just opened it 
and told it I wanted to read the New Yorker which is in my favorites. It 
started reading something at such a rapid rate, it was total gibberish. Alexa 
would not allow me to change the rate of speech by simply talking to the 
device. I might have to do that from the screen or the Alexa App.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 11:16 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: BARD on the Echo 10

 

I wonder if someone confused Bookshare with BARD?

Bookshare has a skill for Echo devices that I believe is still in beta, and 
when I tried it a few months ago, was not worth the trouble.

BARD certainly is not on Echo yet.

If I'm wrong, someone please cite the source for their information.

 

 

 

 

Richard

“What we think or what we know or what we believe is in the end of little 
consequence. The only thing of consequence is what we do” ~ John Ruskin

My web site: https://www.turner42.com

 





On Aug 1, 2022, at 8:10 AM, Alan Lemly mailto:wale...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Donna, 

 

BARD most definitely cannot be currently accessed on an Echo device. NLS is 
currently working on making BARD available on these devices but nothing has 
been announced about when this will happen. I expect it will take some time. 

 

Alan Lemly 

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Aug 1, 2022, at 9:25 AM, Donna Casteen mailto:mermaid71...@gmail.com> > wrote:



Wait...What, Bard Mobile can now be accessed from an Echo device??? Where can I 
find info on how to do this?

 

Donna

 

 



Can someone tell me the best place to get info on how to read BARD Books using 
an Echo device?  It's not intuitive at all. I activated it on my Echo 10 but 
haven't succeededin getting abook  to load up, even if it has been downloaded 
on my phone. 

 

   Deidre

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Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

ok so got the app but for some reason I can't create an account I get 
the username and password but the two parts where you accept stuff 
haven't got check or uncheck on them so what do I do.  Janet


On 08/02/2021 15:46, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Yes, Richard also posted the app description and I believe the link. It should 
be clear from the app description that you have the correct app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Anthony Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter additional 
temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual Temperature" 
and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Janet Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo?
thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon
Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf
Of Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, Vo

RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

NO.
You have to point the thermometer at your forehead, keeping it about one half 
inch from your skin and move it over to your temple maintaining the same 
distance.
Then, the results show up on the app on your iPhone.
Sieghard posted very good information about the technique.
Here is the important part of his post:
It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from 
the middle of your forehead to your temple.
Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my forehead to 
my temple counting 2. After the second vibration I put the thermometer down and 
wrote the following:
"It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready and 
the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from the 
middle of your forehead to your temple."
3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following notification:
Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM And for those who use 
these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 degrees I also just 
repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this time I counted how long 
it took for the notification to pop up and it was around 26 seconds, seemed the 
first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result this time was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 
degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 degrees Fahrenheit.

Best regards,
Sieghard

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 10:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi 

do I have to point the iphone to my forhead to read the body temperature. 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 08 February 2021 16:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.
> apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fwithings-thermo%2Fid1108420798data=04%7C01
> %7C%7C5ffef956317e42a71fec08d8cc5e6f23%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435a
> aaa%7C1%7C0%7C637484053259728401%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wL
> jAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata
> =%2B%2F%2BhnIjZYTIiPTj5ytOedm0f5vURwTihP%2BkEeNitfco%3Dreserved=0
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from y

RE: mistake

[Anthony Borg]

Hi 

do I have to point the iphone to my forhead to read the body temperature. 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: 08 February 2021 16:40
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
> gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.
>
> The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:
>
> Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
> or in specific time increments.
>
> Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
> additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
> Temperature" and add your details.
>
> Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all 
> your health data in one place for easier health tracking.
>
> If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the 
> severity of your fever.
>
> Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
> temperature and symptoms
>
> Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
> ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as 
> well as advice on proper medications and dosages.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mistake
>
> Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? 
> thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon  
> Janet
>
> On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
>> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
>> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
>> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty 
>> much everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: mistake
>>
>> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
>> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
>> Description
>> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>>
>> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>>
>>
>> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. 
>> 

RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, Richard also posted the app description and I believe the link. It should 
be clear from the app description that you have the correct app.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 8, 2021 7:40 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not 
> sure what it has to do with a microphone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Anthony Borg
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Hi Richard
>
> Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
> Thanks in advance
>
> Anthony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
> January 17th, 2021.
> https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
> Description
> The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
> use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app 
> automatically syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. 
> Each user can then view a complete history of temperature readings on their 
> timeline.
>
> To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to 
> each reading:
>
> Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
> symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to 
> your doctor.
>
> Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
> understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
> more.
>
> Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature 
> or illness.
>
> Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
> gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.
>
> The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:
>
> Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
> or in specific time increments.
>
> Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
> additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
> Temperature" and add your details.
>
> Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all 
> your health data in one place for easier health tracking.
>
> If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the 
> severity of your fever.
>
> Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
> temperature and symptoms
>
> Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
> ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as 
> well as advice on proper medications and dosages.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, www.turner42.com
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mistake
>
> Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? 
> thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon  
> Janet
>
> On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
>> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
>> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
>> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
>> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty 
>> much everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf 
>> Of Richard Turner
>> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: RE: mistake
>>
>> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
>> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
>> Description
>> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>>
>> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>>
>>
>> Save your data to Apple Health or 

Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

Hi Is the app you need to get the thermo thermometer started called Thermo?

On 08/02/2021 15:16, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter additional 
temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual Temperature" 
and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Richard Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

It probably asked to allow it to use the microphone which many apps do. I 
haven't cchecked, but it's of course possible that you can enable SIRI 
shortcuts or something like that. I wouldn't worry about it, just let it access 
the microphone and all will be well.


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 6:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

The only reason why I asked you because, when I opened it, it asked me to turn 
on microphone. 
Thanks once again. 
Anthony   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 20:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thermometers, was RE: mistake

I do not have it as yet, but it shows the results in the app on your Apple 
device and VoiceOver reads it.
It does not speak itself.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> So are you saying that this thermometer doesn't speak?
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> 
> Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
> sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
> entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
> course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
> time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
> button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from 
> the middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took 
> the reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD screen, 
> I then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and usually 
> about 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which includes 
> the result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can assign 
> that reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her profile 
> since she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is connected 
> to our home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app (or it gets 
> transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new phone from my 
> old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
> It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
> it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
> away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
> recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
> way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's 
> ready and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should 
> move from the middle of your forehead to your temple.
> Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
> did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
> 1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my 
> forehead to my temple counting 2. After the second vibration I put the 
> thermometer down and wrote the following:
> "It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
> and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move 
> from the middle of your forehead to your temple."
> 3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
> was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following 
> notification:
> Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM And for 
> those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 
> degrees I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this 
> time I counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was 
> around 26 seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result 
> this time was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 
> degrees Fahrenheit.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
> To: v

RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

What is "Thermo Microphone"? The Thermo is a body thermometer and I am not sure 
what it has to do with a microphone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
> everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
> Description
> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>
> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>
>
> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
> the beautiful graphs and stats.
>
>
> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
> any medical decisions.
>
>
> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
> you did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.
>
> Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
> required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd18d7bed941f4b570ed6

RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Anthony Borg]

The only reason why I asked you because, when I opened it, it asked me to turn 
on microphone. 
Thanks once again. 
Anthony   

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 20:56
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: thermometers, was RE: mistake

I do not have it as yet, but it shows the results in the app on your Apple 
device and VoiceOver reads it.
It does not speak itself.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> So are you saying that this thermometer doesn't speak?
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> 
> Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
> sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
> entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
> course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
> time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
> button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from 
> the middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took 
> the reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD screen, 
> I then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and usually 
> about 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which includes 
> the result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can assign 
> that reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her profile 
> since she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is connected 
> to our home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app (or it gets 
> transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new phone from my 
> old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
> It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
> it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
> away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
> recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
> way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's 
> ready and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should 
> move from the middle of your forehead to your temple.
> Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
> did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
> 1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my 
> forehead to my temple counting 2. After the second vibration I put the 
> thermometer down and wrote the following:
> "It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
> and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move 
> from the middle of your forehead to your temple."
> 3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
> was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following 
> notification:
> Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM And for 
> those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 
> degrees I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this 
> time I counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was 
> around 26 seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result 
> this time was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 
> degrees Fahrenheit.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that the 
> one you have?
> It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a while.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 

Re: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

I do not have it as yet, but it shows the results in the app on your Apple 
device and VoiceOver reads it.
It does not speak itself.


Richard

"You know," said Arthur, "it's at times like this, when I'm trapped in a Vogon 
airlock with a man from Betelgeuse, and about to die of asphyxiation in deep 
space, that I really wish I'd listened to what my mother told me when I was 
young."
"Why, what did she tell you?"
"I don't know, I didn't listen."
-- Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy

> On Feb 6, 2021, at 11:48 AM, Andy Baracco  wrote:
> 
> So are you saying that this thermometer doesn't speak?
> 
> Andy
> 
> - Original Message - From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 
> To: 
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:04 AM
> Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> 
> Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
> sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
> entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
> course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
> time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
> button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from 
> the middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took 
> the reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD screen, 
> I then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and usually 
> about 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which includes 
> the result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can assign 
> that reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her profile 
> since she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is connected 
> to our home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app (or it gets 
> transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new phone from my 
> old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
> It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
> it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
> away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
> recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
> way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's 
> ready and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should 
> move from the middle of your forehead to your temple.
> Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
> did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
> 1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my forehead to 
> my temple counting
> 2. After the second vibration I put the thermometer down and wrote the 
> following:
> "It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
> and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move 
> from the middle of your forehead to your temple."
> 3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
> was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following 
> notification:
> Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM
> And for those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 
> 98.96 degrees
> I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this time I 
> counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was around 26 
> seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result this time was 
> 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 degrees 
> Fahrenheit.
> 
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: thermometers, was RE: mistake
> 
> Hi Sieghard,
> At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that the 
> one you have?
> It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a while.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Richard
> 
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
> 
> 
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1f1f1795d7a74ea016f308d8cad8218b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482376908752833%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sda

Re: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Andy Baracco]

So are you saying that this thermometer doesn't speak?

Andy

- Original Message - 
From: "Sieghard Weitzel" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2021 8:04 AM
Subject: RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake


Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from 
the middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took 
the reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD 
screen, I then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and 
usually about 20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which 
includes the result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can 
assign that reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her 
profile since she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is 
connected to our home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app 
(or it gets transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new 
phone from my old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or 
so away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor 
which is recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my 
forehead this way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first 
vibration when it's ready and the second which indicates it's done and in 
that time you should move from the middle of your forehead to your temple.
Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my forehead 
to my temple counting
2. After the second vibration I put the thermometer down and wrote the 
following:
"It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move 
from the middle of your forehead to your temple."
3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following 
notification:

Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM
And for those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 
98.96 degrees
I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this time I 
counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was around 26 
seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result this time 
was 37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 degrees 
Fahrenheit.


Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thermometers, was RE: mistake

Hi Sieghard,
At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that 
the one you have?

It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a while.

Thanks,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.



My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel

Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty 
much everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
Richard Turner

Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:

Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. 
See the beautiful graphs and stats.



Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
any medic

RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

I have no idea.
Sieghard is the one with this thermometer.




Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Borg
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 10:55 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Fwithings-thermo%2Fid1108420798data=04%7C01%7C%7C1ebe525eca954f61d50608d8cad0c2ab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482345251974382%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=6IOkK7B%2Frx53ZZQhREUJg0Cl3U%2Fu9J6ZUGydDsT6dAw%3Dreserved=0
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C1ebe525eca954f61d50608d8cad0c2ab%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482345251974382%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=DzUbbjLAtkQT%2BGDKIrtd%2Bu0NeDljXO%2FMdOTLY4cR%2Fhw%3Dreserved=0



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
> everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
> Description
> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>
> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>
>
> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
> the beautiful graphs and stats.
>
>
> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
> Disclaimer: App measurement

RE: mistake

[Anthony Borg]

Hi Richard 

Can you please explain to me how to enable Thermo microphone? 
Thanks in advance 

Anthony 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: 06 February 2021 18:31
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
> everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
> Description
> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>
> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>
>
> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
> the beautiful graphs and stats.
>
>
> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
> any medical decisions.
>
>
> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
> you did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.
>
> Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
> required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site,
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd18d7bed941f4b570ed608d8cac3af51%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482289091189310%7CUnkno
> wn%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiL
> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2B9DCSLBDtinvlULgD4qVjF%2Bw%2BtbJMX%2B
> WAhdAymWTwTY%3Dreserved=0
>
>
>
> -Origin

RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

Here is the link plus the app store description.  It was just updated on 
January 17th, 2021.
https://apps.apple.com/us/app/withings-thermo/id1108420798
Description
The Thermo app helps you take care of your whole family's health. Created for 
use with Thermo, the Withings smart temporal thermometer, the app automatically 
syncs temperature readings for each user via WiFi or Bluetooth. Each user can 
then view a complete history of temperature readings on their timeline.

To create a more detailed history, you can easily add extra information to each 
reading:

Symptoms: Whatever and whenever you or someone you care for experiences a 
symptom, it's easier than ever to keep track so you can relay this info to your 
doctor.

Medicine: What did you take and when? Add medications administered to 
understand how they affect temperature and so you know when and if you need 
more.

Comments: Add any additional notes that may be relevant to your temperature or 
illness.

Photos: Strange rash? Feeling better? Select a picture from your phone's 
gallery, or take a new picture to add to your timeline.

The Thermo app also provides the following useful features:

Reminder: Set a reminder to take your temperature at certain hours of the day 
or in specific time increments.

Manual Temperature: If you don't own Withings Thermo, or simply want to enter 
additional temperature readings, you can do just that. Simply select "Manual 
Temperature" and add your details.

Thermo and Apple Health work seamlessly together, so you can retrieve all your 
health data in one place for easier health tracking.

If you log a high temperature reading, Thermo can help you assess the severity 
of your fever.

Insights: Thermo provides fever management advice to help you monitor 
temperature and symptoms

Ask ThermiaT: An educational tool developed by Boston Children's Hospital, 
ThermiaT provides recommendations on when it's time to see a doctor and as well 
as advice on proper medications and dosages.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 9:22 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo? thanks again 
for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet

On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected 
> it is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very 
> consistent and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
> You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
> everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Richard Turner
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: mistake
>
> This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before 
> downloading apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
> Description
> Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.
>
> Simple beautiful app for your health.
>
>
> Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
> the beautiful graphs and stats.
>
>
> Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
> Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
> diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making 
> any medical decisions.
>
>
> * You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if 
> you did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.
>
> Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
> required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.
>
> Richard
>
> Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
> realize that you are in a hurry.
>
>
> My web site, 
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tu
> rner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cd18d7bed941f4b570ed608d8cac3af51%7
> C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482289091189310%7CUnkno
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> CJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=%2B9DCSLBDtinvlULgD4qVjF%2Bw%2BtbJMX%2B
> WAhdAymWTwTY%3Dreserved=0
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:17 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: mistake
>
> Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download 
> it

Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

Hi Sieghard is the app for this thermometer call Withings Thermo?  
thanks again for the information I have just order it from Amazon  Janet


On 06/02/2021 15:24, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download it and 
when you opened it it just asked you to press the plus sign.  I haven't got a 
body thermometer because I don't know which one would be accessible for an 
iPhone.  I only want a thermometer just to keep an eye on my temperature in 
this pandemic times so if you know of one please let me know.  thanks very much 
for your help.  Janet

On 01/02/2021 15:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like "Body 
Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of
Janet Bell
Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:19 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: mistake

sorry guys the app is called body temperature janet


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RE: thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Yes, that should be the one, we bought ours at least 4 or 5 years ago so I'm 
sure maybe it has been updated slightly, but ours has worked reliably this 
entire time and I am actually not sure if I ever changed the batteries. O f 
course there are times when I may only use it once or twice a year, but each 
time if I take it out of my drawer, remove the protective cap and press the 
button it vibrates which is the signal that it's ready, I then move it from the 
middle of my forehead to my temple, it vibrates again indicating it took the 
reading. At that point the reading is displayed on the little LCD screen, I 
then just put the cap back on and put it back in the drawer and usually about 
20 or 30 seconds later I get a notification on my iPhone which includes the 
result. I can tap on this, the Thermo app then opens and I can assign that 
reading to myself or, if my wife used it, I can assign it to her profile since 
she is also set up in the app. As I said, the thermometer is connected to our 
home WiFi so if I get a new phone I only download the app (or it gets 
transferred if I use the quick transfer method to set up my new phone from my 
old), I just have to sign into the app again and it all works.
It takes a few practice runs to get the timing right, i.e. how fast you move 
it. You don't, by the way, touch the skin but hold it about a half inch or so 
away from it. I usually put my thumb right on the edge of the sensor which is 
recessed in a round opening and keep the same distance from my forehead this 
way. It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready 
and the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from 
the middle of your forehead to your temple.
Just to show how quickly the result usually is transferred to your iPhone, I 
did the following test just now in order to count how many seconds it takes:
1. I pressed the button and after it vibrated I moved it along my forehead to 
my temple counting
2. After the second vibration I put the thermometer down and wrote the 
following:
"It takes about 4 seconds or so between the first vibration when it's ready and 
the second which indicates it's done and in that time you should move from the 
middle of your forehead to your temple."
3. I was almost done writing this sentence when I heard the sound that there 
was a notification and Voiceover started up and read the following notification:
Thermo, new reading, unassigned, 37.20 degrees at 7:51 AM
And for those who use these weird Fahrenheit measurements, this would be 98.96 
degrees
I also just repeated the measurement about 5 minutes later and this time I 
counted how long it took for the notification to pop up and it was around 26 
seconds, seemed the first was a bit faster. Anyways, the result this time was 
37.1 degrees so a 0.1 degree Celsius difference or about 0.2 degrees Fahrenheit.

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:38 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: thermometers, was RE: mistake

Hi Sieghard,
At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that the 
one you have?
It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a while.

Thanks,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers tha

thermometers, was RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

Hi Sieghard,
At Amazon, Withings Thermo - smart Temporal Thermometer, is $99.  Is that the 
one you have?
It takes 2 triple A batteries, included.  I suspect they last quite a while.

Thanks,


Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2021 7:25 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, 
https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.turner42.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7C9c6ec4fb9730439dd8a308d8cab35617%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637482218874408952%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Vr5MjuMQa%2Fko9D9IfVTroNtXMJMQZmHDTOnQzFFxI7I%3Dreserved=0



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download it and 
when you opened it it just asked you to press the plus sign.  I haven't got a 
body thermometer because I don't know which one would be accessible for an 
iPhone.  I only want a thermometer just to keep an eye on my temperature in 
this pandemic times so if you know of one please let me know.  thanks very much 
for your help.  Janet

On 01/02/2021 15:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like 
> "Body Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
> You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
> think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
> the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
> Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
> doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: mistake
>
> sorry guys the app is called body temperature janet
>

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RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

We have the Withings Thermo which uses WiFi not Bluetooth and once connected it 
is simple to use and the app is accessible. It also seems to be very consistent 
and accurate, but It is a bit on the pricier side.
You have to check how easy or not it is to get one. They are sold pretty much 
everywhere, Apple Store, Amazon, Best Buy etc..


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:28 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: mistake

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


My web site, www.turner42.com



-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download it and 
when you opened it it just asked you to press the plus sign.  I haven't got a 
body thermometer because I don't know which one would be accessible for an 
iPhone.  I only want a thermometer just to keep an eye on my temperature in 
this pandemic times so if you know of one please let me know.  thanks very much 
for your help.  Janet

On 01/02/2021 15:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like 
> "Body Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
> You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
> think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
> the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
> Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
> doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: mistake
>
> sorry guys the app is called body temperature janet
>

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RE: mistake

[Richard Turner]

This is why I always read the descriptions in the app store before downloading 
apps.  Here is the description for Body Temperature:
Description
Track body temperature. Take care of yourself.

Simple beautiful app for your health.


Save your data to Apple Health or get your temperature from Apple Health. See 
the beautiful graphs and stats.


Connect your smart bluetooth thermometer to track the temperature.
Disclaimer: App measurements are just recommendations and can't be used for 
diagnostics or medical purpose. Always seek a doctor's advice before making any 
medical decisions.


* You see it says you have to have a Smart Bluetooth thermometer ... and if you 
did, VoiceOver would likely speak the plus sign as an Add button.

Perhaps you should check for the infrared thermometers that talk so no app is 
required.  Check out Independent Living Aids or LS products.

Richard

Ralph's Observation:  It is a mistake to allow any mechanical object<>to 
realize that you are in a hurry.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Janet 
Bell
Sent: Monday, February 1, 2021 8:17 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: mistake

Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download it and 
when you opened it it just asked you to press the plus sign.  I haven't got a 
body thermometer because I don't know which one would be accessible for an 
iPhone.  I only want a thermometer just to keep an eye on my temperature in 
this pandemic times so if you know of one please let me know.  thanks very much 
for your help.  Janet

On 01/02/2021 15:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
> Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like 
> "Body Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
> You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
> think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
> the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
> Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
> doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?
>
> Best regards,
> Sieghard
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of 
> Janet Bell
> Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2021 10:19 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: mistake
>
> sorry guys the app is called body temperature janet
>

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Re: mistake

[Janet Bell]

Hi Seighard, it was an app I saw in a quiz  so I decided to download it 
and when you opened it it just asked you to press the plus sign.  I 
haven't got a body thermometer because I don't know which one would be 
accessible for an iPhone.  I only want a thermometer just to keep an eye 
on my temperature in this pandemic times so if you know of one please 
let me know.  thanks very much for your help.  Janet


On 01/02/2021 15:28, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:

Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like "Body 
Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?

Best regards,
Sieghard

-Original Message-
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Bell
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RE: mistake

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Is it the one by Alina Mikhaylova? I always find with generic words like "Body 
Temperature" it is best to provide a direct app store link.
You do realize you need a Bluetooth body thermometer with this app? I don't 
think there are just apps which can give you your body temperature with just 
the iPhone sinc ethe iPhone simply doesn't have the necessary sensors.
Maybe more information might help, e.g. which thermometer do you have and 
doesn't your thermometer have its own app like the Thermo thermometer and app?

Best regards,
Sieghard 

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sorry guys the app is called body temperature janet

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Re: Bluetooth keyboard gesture mistake

[Robert Doc wright]

Why don't you just press the up and down arrows at the same time to double 
tap?

**
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- Original Message - 
From: "Bill Outman" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 1:29 PM
Subject: Bluetooth keyboard gesture mistake


Hello.
I seem to be having a bluetooth keyboard command mistake I can’t diagnose.
When opening a message in Mail, I try to use control-options-space to open 
the message as I should on my Logitech K-480. Sometimes I end up in More 
Actions without the phone having announced that’s where I was going, and I’m 
in the list of reply, reply all, etc. There is no way to back out without 
say entering say reply, then doing cancel and delete draft. So I end up 
closing the app and trying again.
I had thought it was a bad keyboard, which I had to change out for another 
reason, but I’m still doing the same thing.

Probably a coordination slump but frustrating.
I have an 8 Plus with version 13.4.1.
Bill Outman


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RE: Bluetooth keyboard gesture mistake

[Richard Turner]

That is the correct keystroke.
You may want to get a screen share going with Apple Accessibility so they can 
see what is happening.



Richard
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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Bill 
Outman
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Bluetooth keyboard gesture mistake

Hello.  
I seem to be having a bluetooth keyboard command mistake I can’t diagnose. 
When opening a message in Mail, I try to use control-options-space to open the 
message as I should on my Logitech K-480. Sometimes I end up in More Actions 
without the phone having announced that’s where I was going, and I’m in the 
list of reply, reply all, etc. There is no way to back out without say entering 
say reply, then doing cancel and delete draft. So I end up closing the app and 
trying again.  
I had thought it was a bad keyboard, which I had to change out for another 
reason, but I’m still doing the same thing. 
Probably a coordination slump but frustrating. 
I have an 8 Plus with version 13.4.1. 
Bill Outman 


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Bluetooth keyboard gesture mistake

[Bill Outman]

Hello.  
I seem to be having a bluetooth keyboard command mistake I can’t diagnose. 
When opening a message in Mail, I try to use control-options-space to open the 
message as I should on my Logitech K-480. Sometimes I end up in More Actions 
without the phone having announced that’s where I was going, and I’m in the 
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say reply, then doing cancel and delete draft. So I end up closing the app and 
trying again.  
I had thought it was a bad keyboard, which I had to change out for another 
reason, but I’m still doing the same thing. 
Probably a coordination slump but frustrating. 
I have an 8 Plus with version 13.4.1. 
Bill Outman 


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One mistake people make using public WiFi, USA Today

[M. Taylor]

One mistake people make using public Wi-Fi Kim Komando , Special for USA
TODAY 
Modern Greyhound buses offer free WiFi, a feature the company hopes will
attract younger travelers. (Photo: Greyhound) If I've said it once, I've
said it a thousand times: Avoid doing anything you would not want anyone in
the world to know on public Wi-Fi. You may think you're safe in that busy
café or big-name hotel, but public Wi-Fi is a major liability. It doesn't
matter how safe the connection seems to be; your computer is vulnerable to
hackers because you have no idea who is really in charge of that router or
who has access to it and all the data that passes through it. Knowledge is
power. Learn how crooks attack your computer on public Wi-Fi. There are lots
of ways to protect yourself, of course. Your best defense is a virtual
private network (VPN), which can prevent nosy strangers from snooping on
your browser. You can also employ the usual firewalls and antivirus software
to defend your computer from hackers and malware. Learn more about VPNs and
safe browsing on public WiFi. Even the best security systems have their
weaknesses, and you have likely never heard of this one: File sharing on a
public network can expose your computer to data thieves. This is a scary
problem because you may not even realize that you're sharing files. But if
your computer is on the wrong setting, you may attract any number of
cyber-criminals. So how do you make sure your computer isn't leaking
information by accident? File sharing is very handy, especially for groups
of people. Whether you're using iCloud, Dropbox, or Google Drive, file
sharing allows a large team to work on a single project at once, or families
to browse digital photo albums, or data specialists to organize large
batches of information. This is very convenient, as long as you're on your
own secure network. But if you're sharing files on public Wi-Fi, your
folders may be accessible to anyone connected to the same public network. In
other words, file sharing automatically exposes your computer and everything
you intend to share. Your vacation photos may end up in the wrong hands, and
so could your contracts, spreadsheets, and tax information. In fact, you
don't have to be a hacker to take advantage of shared folders. Anyone who
looks around their network folders can instantly run a search and find
unguarded files. It works the other way around too. An attacker can also set
up a shared folder with malicious files. You may stumble into the mysterious
folder and think, "Wait a minute, where did this come from? Then you click
on it, releasing the malware onto the desktop. There are other ways you can
get into trouble. Learn how to avoid getting hacked on the road. Want to
ensure your privacy? Make sure to turn off file sharing before you connect
to public WiFi. Here's how to do it: 1. Search for "Control Panel" then
click on the best match to open it. 2. Under "Network and Internet," click
on "View network status and tasks. 3. On the next page, click "Change
advanced sharing settings. 4. Under "File and printer sharing," tick off
"Turn off file and printer sharing. 5. To prevent network snoopers from
seeing your computer, tick off "Turn off network discovery" too. 6. Save
changes. 1. Open your Mac's System Preferences (the gear icon on your dock).
2. Click on the "Sharing" icon. 3. On the next "Sharing Page," uncheck File
Sharing. 4. I also recommend that you uncheck all the other sharing services
here when connecting to public Wi-Fi. 5. Close the window and you're set.
Okay, you're done your business, and now you can log off of public Wi-Fi.
You've taken all the necessary precautions, and there's a good chance none
of your information was compromised. Just remember to switch your file
sharing back on when you get back to your home or office. None of these
services will work unless you restore your regular settings. When you're
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Re: would it be a mistake

[Wayne Merritt]

T-Mobile will pay off your phone but it will take longer for that
payment to come, before you owe the prior carrier the money. In other
words, when I switched from AT to T-Mobile in 2015, I got the bill
from AT long before the payment came from T-Mobile. T-Mobile has
been pretty good. They saved me lots of money compared with AT, but
I have started having problems with data and connections, and
making/receiving calls, on my iPhone 7. I live in Austin, TX, in an
apartment complex. I usually get between 1 and 3 bars at home and at
work. Whenever my wife calls me on her T-Mobile iPhone 7, either I am
unable to hear her or she is unable to hear me. One person can talk to
the other, but the other cannot hear the first. I am also having
trouble with the earbuds on my phone. I cannot make or answer calls at
my desk so that the other party can hear me. I have also seen a delay
when getting texts or voicemails. Not all of these can be blamed on
the network, but most of them are T-Mobile's fault. We are switching
back to AT in September when the new iPhones come out. Though AT
is more expensive, they have much better and stronger coverage, both
in our home town and when we travel other places in Texas, like
Dallas, and sometimes to West Texas. There is also an AT tower not
too far from my work, which means I will be getting a strong 5 bars no
matter where I go and which floor I am on. Currently, if I go down to
the basement, I do not get any reception from T-Mobile. But when I go
back to the first floor I get the usual 2 bars. If I go outside, it
goes up to 4 or 5 bars.

Hth,
Wayne

On 8/16/17, MamaPeach <mamape...@charter.net> wrote:
> I heard on an advertisement on TV last night that they will definitly pay
> off your phone.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Larry Smith
> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:53 AM
> To: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone
> Subject: Re: would it be a mistake
>
> I don’t know if T-mobile will pay off your phone. However, I wouldn’t be
> surprised if they did. The best way to find out what T-mobile will or will
> not do is to call them. As far as T-mobile’s coverage. I, after some big
> time hesitation, and asking questions of other people who were actually
> using T-mobile, I made the switch from AT last February. I have had no
> real significant issues with the services. I have traveled to many places
> since making the switch. I am happy to say that so far, so good. I live in
> Philadelphia, PA. If you have some locations in mind where you may frequent,
>
> ask the T-mobile rep if they have coverage. Also, remember, T-mobile does
> have WiFi calling. Take care.
>
>> On Aug 15, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I just purchased a 7+ phone in June.  I have a friend who has TMobile,
>> and she told me that if I switched they'd pay the rest of my bill off.
>> I went online and saw with one line and what  my current bill is with
>> A T, with TMobile I'd pay $70 a month.  But I am hearing pros and
>> cons on TMobile.  My friend is sighted and so doesn't need the
>> accessibility that I do.  But another person told me they are frauds
>> and don't do what they claim.
>> I truly think AT is greedy and really want to get away from them but
>> I got the phone on a sale and guess I sort of got caught up in it,
>> being told other carriers didn't have as good a signal strength,
>> especially if you travel elsewhere.  I don't do much travelling, but
>> when I go to see my family or  maybe friends out of state I want to
>> have to be able to use my phone without any problems.  And of course
>> the person who told me this about other carriers not being as good
>> with signal, was an A T rep.
>>
>> So I need to hear from TMobile users.  Do they indeed help pay off
>> your current phone, and do you get good service wherever you go?
>>
>> I hope all this is making sense.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Patti
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Re: would it be a mistake

[MamaPeach]

I heard on an advertisement on TV last night that they will definitly pay 
off your phone.


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From: Larry Smith

Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2017 4:53 AM
To: 'Martin Maidment' via VIPhone
Subject: Re: would it be a mistake

I don’t know if T-mobile will pay off your phone. However, I wouldn’t be 
surprised if they did. The best way to find out what T-mobile will or will 
not do is to call them. As far as T-mobile’s coverage. I, after some big 
time hesitation, and asking questions of other people who were actually 
using T-mobile, I made the switch from AT last February. I have had no 
real significant issues with the services. I have traveled to many places 
since making the switch. I am happy to say that so far, so good. I live in 
Philadelphia, PA. If you have some locations in mind where you may frequent, 
ask the T-mobile rep if they have coverage. Also, remember, T-mobile does 
have WiFi calling. Take care.



On Aug 15, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Patti Johnson <pattigj1...@gmail.com> wrote:

I just purchased a 7+ phone in June.  I have a friend who has TMobile,
and she told me that if I switched they'd pay the rest of my bill off.
I went online and saw with one line and what  my current bill is with
A T, with TMobile I'd pay $70 a month.  But I am hearing pros and
cons on TMobile.  My friend is sighted and so doesn't need the
accessibility that I do.  But another person told me they are frauds
and don't do what they claim.
I truly think AT is greedy and really want to get away from them but
I got the phone on a sale and guess I sort of got caught up in it,
being told other carriers didn't have as good a signal strength,
especially if you travel elsewhere.  I don't do much travelling, but
when I go to see my family or  maybe friends out of state I want to
have to be able to use my phone without any problems.  And of course
the person who told me this about other carriers not being as good
with signal, was an A T rep.

So I need to hear from TMobile users.  Do they indeed help pay off
your current phone, and do you get good service wherever you go?

I hope all this is making sense.

Thanks,
Patti

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Re: would it be a mistake

[Larry Smith]

I don’t know if T-mobile will pay off your phone. However, I wouldn’t be 
surprised if they did. The best way to find out what T-mobile will or will not 
do is to call them. As far as T-mobile’s coverage. I, after some big time 
hesitation, and asking questions of other people who were actually using 
T-mobile, I made the switch from AT last February. I have had no real 
significant issues with the services. I have traveled to many places since 
making the switch. I am happy to say that so far, so good. I live in 
Philadelphia, PA. If you have some locations in mind where you may frequent, 
ask the T-mobile rep if they have coverage. Also, remember, T-mobile does have 
WiFi calling. Take care.

> On Aug 15, 2017, at 6:54 PM, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> 
> I just purchased a 7+ phone in June.  I have a friend who has TMobile,
> and she told me that if I switched they'd pay the rest of my bill off.
> I went online and saw with one line and what  my current bill is with
> A T, with TMobile I'd pay $70 a month.  But I am hearing pros and
> cons on TMobile.  My friend is sighted and so doesn't need the
> accessibility that I do.  But another person told me they are frauds
> and don't do what they claim.
> I truly think AT is greedy and really want to get away from them but
> I got the phone on a sale and guess I sort of got caught up in it,
> being told other carriers didn't have as good a signal strength,
> especially if you travel elsewhere.  I don't do much travelling, but
> when I go to see my family or  maybe friends out of state I want to
> have to be able to use my phone without any problems.  And of course
> the person who told me this about other carriers not being as good
> with signal, was an A T rep.
> 
> So I need to hear from TMobile users.  Do they indeed help pay off
> your current phone, and do you get good service wherever you go?
> 
> I hope all this is making sense.
> 
> Thanks,
> Patti
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Re: would it be a mistake

[Kelly Pierce]

I use the T-Mobile network through a prepaid reseller.  Every cell
phone carrier has places of great coverage and places where coverage
is lousy.  The only way to know is to look at a coverage map for the
places of interest to you.  Ask a sighted friend or call T-Mobile or
visit a T-Mobile store for help reviewing the coverage map for the
places in which you are interested.  In the past, the company only had
coverage at the higher end of the cell phone spectrum. These
frequencies did not travel long distances and their signals had
trouble penetrating buildings.  T-Mobile has acquired lower frequency
spectrum in many places, which is why it is important to check
coverage maps.  Now the coverage in many places is quite reasonable. I
am in Chicago with great coverage, which should be expected in a metro
region of 10 million people. Most people live in and around major
cities, and blind people are not known to drive around in cars long
distances needing a cell phone connection every minute during their
trip.

Kelly



On 8/15/17, Patti Johnson  wrote:
> I just purchased a 7+ phone in June.  I have a friend who has TMobile,
> and she told me that if I switched they'd pay the rest of my bill off.
> I went online and saw with one line and what  my current bill is with
> A T, with TMobile I'd pay $70 a month.  But I am hearing pros and
> cons on TMobile.  My friend is sighted and so doesn't need the
> accessibility that I do.  But another person told me they are frauds
> and don't do what they claim.
> I truly think AT is greedy and really want to get away from them but
> I got the phone on a sale and guess I sort of got caught up in it,
> being told other carriers didn't have as good a signal strength,
> especially if you travel elsewhere.  I don't do much travelling, but
> when I go to see my family or  maybe friends out of state I want to
> have to be able to use my phone without any problems.  And of course
> the person who told me this about other carriers not being as good
> with signal, was an A T rep.
>
> So I need to hear from TMobile users.  Do they indeed help pay off
> your current phone, and do you get good service wherever you go?
>
> I hope all this is making sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Patti
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would it be a mistake

[Patti Johnson]

I just purchased a 7+ phone in June.  I have a friend who has TMobile,
and she told me that if I switched they'd pay the rest of my bill off.
I went online and saw with one line and what  my current bill is with
A T, with TMobile I'd pay $70 a month.  But I am hearing pros and
cons on TMobile.  My friend is sighted and so doesn't need the
accessibility that I do.  But another person told me they are frauds
and don't do what they claim.
I truly think AT is greedy and really want to get away from them but
I got the phone on a sale and guess I sort of got caught up in it,
being told other carriers didn't have as good a signal strength,
especially if you travel elsewhere.  I don't do much travelling, but
when I go to see my family or  maybe friends out of state I want to
have to be able to use my phone without any problems.  And of course
the person who told me this about other carriers not being as good
with signal, was an A T rep.

So I need to hear from TMobile users.  Do they indeed help pay off
your current phone, and do you get good service wherever you go?

I hope all this is making sense.

Thanks,
Patti

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Re: Whew, I made a mistake

[christopher hallsworth]

Hello, was going to say, I would not put iOS 11 on a phone just yet, until at 
least the public beta, having said that you should really wait till general 
release unless you are confident in spotting bugs and helping Apple fix them. 
Personally I will put them on my trusty old iPad Mini 2 and iPod Touch 6 even 
at public beta time, as my iPhone 6s is new and so would rather wait till 
general release but that's just me.
> On 25 Jun 2017, at 07:21, Nancy  wrote:
> 
> Sieghard,
> 
> 
> I am so glad you told me where to look.  It turnes out that I have version 
> 10.3.2...no 11 yet.
> 
> 
> My friend does like me!  smile
> 
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> Thanks,
> 
> Nancy and her SE
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Whew, I made a mistake

[Nancy]

Sieghard,


I am so glad you told me where to look.  It turnes out that I have 
version 10.3.2...no 11 yet.



My friend does like me!  smile


Thanks,

Nancy and her SE

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RE: Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Terri,

I can't help you with the on/off question, I would just Google  it, chances are 
you'll find a user manual online.

As for charging it, if it charges via a Mini or Micro USB cable you can plug it 
into anything you have that can take a USB cable, it makes no difference if you 
use the wall adapter of your iPhone, iPad or of some third party product that 
came with one.

Something like that normally would probably charge in a couple of hours, but 
even charging it for half an hour should get you half a charge since the speed 
with which batteries charge decreases when they get fuller, e.g. it may take 
half an hour to charge them to half full, but another hour and a half to charge 
the second half.

You phone won't see the keyboard until you put it in pairing mode. I can't tell 
you how that is done with this keyboard, again this would be in the user 
manual. Chances are there could be a small hole somewhere where you have to 
press a resessed button with the tip of a pen or paper clip.

Regards,
Sieghard

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Terri Stimmel
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2016 4:20 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

Hello everybody,

I want to apologize for my message I wrote to the list earlier. I asked for 
help with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I gave the wrong Bluetooth keyboard 
information. I realized that it was still showing my older Bluetooth keyboard. 
Which was a Logitech.
Anyway, my friend gave me a box wave buddy, Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know if 
there are different models of these, or not.
However, my phone isn't even showing it in the list of options. My friend 
thought that the keyboard needed to be charged, because she had not used it in 
quite a while. He has a different iPhone now.

Anyway, I tried to charge it earlier. But I didn't let it charge for very long, 
because I needed my phone. Can I use my block from my iPad mini to plug in the 
USB cable, to charge this Bluetooth keyboard? Or do I need to use just a normal 
charging block, like one that might have come with my iPhone 5S? Also, how do I 
even know if this Bluetooth keyboard is on?
There is a very small switch on the bottom right side, if it is on your phone 
and the phone is facing you. You can move it up or down, but you have to use a 
fingernail to do so. Right now, but I have it in the up position.

About how long might it take for this keyboard to charge? Also, once it is 
charged, and my phone recognizes it, how do I pair it with my phone?

I know nothing about this keyboard. Although I have wanted one for a long time 
now. I like how it has to slide out keyboard. And for my last question.
Can I find a layout of the keyboard, somewhere? Or, is there a way for me to 
learn the Bluetooth keyboard commands?
I haven't ever done this before, even when I had my other keyboard. I mainly 
used it to write texts, or emails. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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Made a mistake on the type of Bluetooth keyboard I need help with

[Terri Stimmel]

Hello everybody,

I want to apologize for my message I wrote to the list earlier. I asked for 
help with a Bluetooth keyboard, and I gave the wrong Bluetooth keyboard 
information. I realized that it was still showing my older Bluetooth keyboard. 
Which was a Logitech.

Anyway, my friend gave me a box wave buddy, Bluetooth keyboard. I don't know if 
there are different models of these, or not.
However, my phone isn't even showing it in the list of options. My friend 
thought that the keyboard needed to be charged, because she had not used it in 
quite a while. He has a different iPhone now.

Anyway, I tried to charge it earlier. But I didn't let it charge for very long, 
because I needed my phone. Can I use my block from my iPad mini to plug in the 
USB cable, to charge this Bluetooth keyboard? Or do I need to use just a normal 
charging block, like one that might have come with my iPhone 5S? Also, how do I 
even know if this Bluetooth keyboard is on?
There is a very small switch on the bottom right side, if it is on your phone 
and the phone is facing you. You can move it up or down, but you have to use a 
fingernail to do so. Right now, but I have it in the up position.

About how long might it take for this keyboard to charge? Also, once it is 
charged, and my phone recognizes it, how do I pair it with my phone?

I know nothing about this keyboard. Although I have wanted one for a long time 
now. I like how it has to slide out keyboard. And for my last question.
Can I find a layout of the keyboard, somewhere? Or, is there a way for me to 
learn the Bluetooth keyboard commands?
I haven't ever done this before, even when I had my other keyboard. I mainly 
used it to write texts, or emails. Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thank you,

Terri

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mistake in the from address

[wrenlang...@sbcglobal.net]

Sent from my iPadhi all, I forgot to change the from address to the SBC global 
address instead of the iCloud one. If I make my SBC global account my default 
email account, will my iCloud things still get knocked up? Thank you very much.
God bless, Wren Langleyhi all, I forgot to change the from address to the SBC 
global address instead of the iCloud one. If I make my SBC global account my 
default email account, will my iCloud things still get backed up? Thank you 
very much.
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A mistake in the last post, a texting bug

[Cathy]

I have an i-phone 5 and I have updated to the latest version, version 8, and am 
having problems and am wondering if this is a bug, and a known bug to Apple.  I 
am wondering if any one else is having this problem.  When I try to share a 
contact card to another i-phone owner, when trying to text, it will not let me. 
 I hit the send, and nothing happens.  I love this and really hope this is just 
a bug.  Also when I was trying to share a picture, i ran into the same problem. 
 I was able to figure out another way to do it, but I can not figure out how to 
share a contact card.  Is anyone else having issues like this?
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ITunes mistake, help!!!

[Regina Alvarado]

Hello,
Have a problem. I bought MBRAILLE and I paid with my card on file with iTunes. 
Only thing was that iTunes said my info was wrong which I understood as my 
billing address is different than my address where I live. I put in my 
information and iTunes came back session timed out. I wen
back in to the app and tried again. This time it seemed to be correct and I 
have been using it since. However, iTunes charged me twice. They must have 
charged me when I first put in my info. What can I do? I sure don't want to  
pay for MBRAILLE twice. Grrr. no confirmation that it was downloaded to  the 
app, and then iTunes says they won't send because not all is well with the 
information. Any help appreciated.


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Re: ITunes mistake, help!!!

[Chris H]

I would contact Apple and let them know of the mistake.


Chris

On 27/06/2013 19:21, Regina Alvarado wrote:

Hello,
Have a problem. I bought MBRAILLE and I paid with my card on file with iTunes. 
Only thing was that iTunes said my info was wrong which I understood as my 
billing address is different than my address where I live. I put in my 
information and iTunes came back session timed out. I wen
back in to the app and tried again. This time it seemed to be correct and I 
have been using it since. However, iTunes charged me twice. They must have charged 
me when I first put in my info. What can I do? I sure don't want to  pay for 
MBRAILLE twice. Grrr. no confirmation that it was downloaded to  the app, and then 
iTunes says they won't send because not all is well with the information. Any help 
appreciated.


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Re: might this have been where I made my mistake

[David Chittenden]

Yes, the touch display starts above the home button. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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On 29/03/2013, at 16:56, Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com wrote:

 I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a couple 
 years back.  Looking
 at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if my 
 show stopping mistake
 was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order to 
 avoid the same mistake
 with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? The 
 book suggests above.  
 
 
 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA
 
 
 
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RE: might this have been where I made my mistake

[Ray T. Mahorney]

file that one as a several years delayed Eureka moment.


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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David Chittenden
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 06:21
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Yes, the touch display starts above the home button. 

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
Sent from my iPhone

On 29/03/2013, at 16:56, Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com wrote:

 I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a couple 
 years back.  Looking
 at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if my 
 show stopping mistake
 was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order to 
 avoid the same mistake
 with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? The 
 book suggests above.

 
 
 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA
 
 
 
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Re: might this have been where I made my mistake

[RobH!]

LifeProof cases like Otterbox defender and Griffin Survivor are good for 
this in that they frame the working screen so well;  I tend to get a bit 
lost  or wander off without, when looking for the status bar or something. 
Tactile markings are useful too, so suggest SpeedDots products would help 
too.

Rh.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: might this have been where I made my mistake


The book is correct.  The display starts immediately above the home button. 
The space directly to the right and left of the home button is not a part of 
the display.  Its just empty space, colored either black or white depending 
on the color of your iPhone.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a 
 couple years back.  Looking
 at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if 
 my show stopping mistake
 was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order 
 to avoid the same mistake
 with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? 
 The book suggests above.


 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA



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RE: might this have been where I made my mistake

[Ray T. Mahorney]

already going down the speed dots road


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
RobH!
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 08:18
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: might this have been where I made my mistake

LifeProof cases like Otterbox defender and Griffin Survivor are good for 
this in that they frame the working screen so well;  I tend to get a bit 
lost  or wander off without, when looking for the status bar or something. 
Tactile markings are useful too, so suggest SpeedDots products would help 
too.

Rh.
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From: Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 4:04 AM
Subject: Re: might this have been where I made my mistake


The book is correct.  The display starts immediately above the home button. 
The space directly to the right and left of the home button is not a part of 
the display.  Its just empty space, colored either black or white depending 
on the color of your iPhone.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com 
wrote:

 I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a 
 couple years back.  Looking
 at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if 
 my show stopping mistake
 was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order 
 to avoid the same mistake
 with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? 
 The book suggests above.


 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA



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might this have been where I made my mistake

[Ray T. Mahorney]

I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a couple 
years back.  Looking
at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if my 
show stopping mistake
was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order to 
avoid the same mistake
with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? The 
book suggests above.  


Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA



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Re: might this have been where I made my mistake

[Ricardo Walker]

The book is correct.  The display starts immediately above the home button.  
The space directly to the right and left of the home button is not a part of 
the display.  Its just empty space, colored either black or white depending on 
the color of your iPhone.

Ricardo Walker
rica...@appletothecore.info
Twitter:@apple2thecore
www.appletothecore.info

On Mar 28, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Ray T. Mahorney mahorney@googlemail.com 
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 I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a couple 
 years back.  Looking
 at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if my 
 show stopping mistake
 was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order to 
 avoid the same mistake
 with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? The 
 book suggests above.  
 
 
 Ray T. Mahorney
 WA4WGA
 
 
 
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Re: might this have been where I made my mistake

[Mich]

the controles are all above the home butten and this is on any IPhone. hth. 
from Mich.
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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2013 11:56 PM
Subject: might this have been where I made my mistake


I got off to a shaky short and frustrating start with an I Phone 3gs a 
couple years back.  Looking
at the getting started with the I Phone 5 book from NBP I am wondering if 
my show stopping mistake
was in assuming that there were buttons below the home button?  In order 
to avoid the same mistake
with the 5 does the control surface start above or below the home button? 
The book suggests above.



Ray T. Mahorney
WA4WGA



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I made a mistake

[Kathy and Wilda]

 

 

It's voicebook. that's what happens when you
are in a hurry.Kathy and Seeing Eye dog Wilda

 

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