no home button?

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn’t have a home button how are functions 
which would normally require this button performed?
Ray T. Mahorney
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Re: no home button?

[Daniel Miller]

The iPhone 7 does have a home button. Wherever you found that from is obviously 
giving false information. The only difference about the button is that 
haptic,it's   and a mechanical.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

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Re: no home button?

[Jed Barton]

well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen


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Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn’t have a home button how are
functions which would normally require this button performed?
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Re: no home button?

['ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone]

you essentially confirmed what I thought about the original claim.  I thought 
they’d have to have a method of performing home button dependent functions.

From: Daniel Miller 
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 19:16
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Subject: Re: no home button?

The iPhone 7 does have a home button. Wherever you found that from is obviously 
giving false information. The only difference about the button is that 
haptic,it's   and a mechanical.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

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Re: no home button?

['RobH.' via VIPhone]

For clarity:  that's a screen button, not a mechanical one, right?

So, how does the finger print thing work now?

Thanks, BobH.
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From: "Daniel Miller" 
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Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 12:16 AM
Subject: Re: no home button?


The iPhone 7 does have a home button. Wherever you found that from is obviously 
giving false information. The only difference about 
the button is that haptic,it's   and a mechanical.

Sent from my iPhone 6S Plus

> On Nov 6, 2016, at 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone 
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RE: no home button?

[Debby]

The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me than 
the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has one. (can 
you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't take another 
look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen

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RE: no home button?

[James Homuth]

Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We
looking at the same phone?

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Of Debby
Sent: November-07-16 7:01 AM
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Subject: RE: no home button?

The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me
than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has
one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't
take another look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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Subject: Re: no home button?

well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen

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RE: no home button?

[Debby]

Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do anything. You 
can't really move it. When you press your finger to it you get the haptic 
thing--the phone kind of shutters.

Debby
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Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We looking 
at the same phone?

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The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me than 
the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has one. (can 
you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't take another 
look at it right now.
 
Have fun!

Debby

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Subject: Re: no home button?

well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button. 
Yes you can feel it on the screen

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Re: no home button?

[Wayne Merritt]

One difference between the actual Home button on older iPhones and the
Home button on the new iPhone 7: if you turn the iPhone 7/Plus off,
nothing will happen to the Home button when you push it in. This is
different from older phones where even when the phone is off, the
button could be pressed. Of course, nothing would happen to the phone
in that case, but still it is a way to see if your iPhone 7 is off.

I am teaching a student with neuropathy who has an iPhone 5S. He
self-reports that he can feel the home button on my iPhone 7 better
than he can on his 5S.

Wayne

On 11/7/16, Debby  wrote:
> Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do anything. You
> can't really move it. When you press your finger to it you get the haptic
> thing--the phone kind of shutters.
>
> Debby
> -Original Message-
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> Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We
> looking at the same phone?
>
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> Subject: RE: no home button?
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> The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your
> fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to me
> than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a newby has
> one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another state, so I can't
> take another look at it right now.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Debby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
> Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no home button?
>
> well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button.
> Yes you can feel it on the screen
>
> On 11/6/2016 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn't have a home button how are
>> functions which would normally require this button performed?
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
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RE: no home button?

[Sieghard Weitzel]

Another great way to tell if the phone is off would be to flick the mute 
switch, if it is off nothing happens, if it is on there should be a brief 
vibration when you flick it towards the back to the mute position.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Wayne Merritt
Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2016 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: no home button?

One difference between the actual Home button on older iPhones and the Home 
button on the new iPhone 7: if you turn the iPhone 7/Plus off, nothing will 
happen to the Home button when you push it in. This is different from older 
phones where even when the phone is off, the button could be pressed. Of 
course, nothing would happen to the phone in that case, but still it is a way 
to see if your iPhone 7 is off.

I am teaching a student with neuropathy who has an iPhone 5S. He self-reports 
that he can feel the home button on my iPhone 7 better than he can on his 5S.

Wayne

On 11/7/16, Debby  wrote:
> Yes it does feel like a button, but mechanically it doesn't do 
> anything. You can't really move it. When you press your finger to it 
> you get the haptic thing--the phone kind of shutters.
>
> Debby
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of James Homuth
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2016 7:03 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> Um. The home button on my 7 looks pretty much like a button to me. We 
> looking at the same phone?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Debby
> Sent: November-07-16 7:01 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: no home button?
>
> The 7 home button is just an indented round spot on the screen. Your 
> fingerprint still gets read there. It does seem smaller in diameter to 
> me than the old home button. I don't have a 7, but my sister as a 
> newby has one. (can you say tough learning curve!) She is in another 
> state, so I can't take another look at it right now.
>
> Have fun!
>
> Debby
>
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Jed Barton
> Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2016 7:55 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: no home button?
>
> well, there is a home button, it's just not a mechanical home button.
> Yes you can feel it on the screen
>
> On 11/6/2016 7:08 PM, 'ray t. mahorney' via VIPhone wrote:
>> Help me out folks if the IPhone 7 doesn't have a home button how are 
>> functions which would normally require this button performed?
>> Ray T. Mahorney
>> WA4WGA
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Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[Don Moore]

I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot my
phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't
make it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!



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iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Hello group:

I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.

One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
so I won't get any alerts or calls.


When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. 
This way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.


If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
press to hear the time announced?




Thanks in advance.

Holly 


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Re: Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[Devin Prater]

>From 
>https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/09/21/how-to-force-restart-your-iphone-11-iphone-11-pro-or-iphone-11-pro-max:
> 
>

Press the volume up button once

Press the volume down button once

Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button

Keep holding even when you see Slide to Power Off

Keep holding until you see the Apple logo

So, basically, press volume up, then press volume down, then hold the power 
button for probably about 15 seconds.


> On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
> 
> I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot my
> phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't
> make it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> 
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Re: Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[Diane Giannetti]

With the volume down in the volume up and then hitting the power button, that 
will do a hard reboot. Without a hard reboot is that however, if you just want 
to shut it down normally just do the volume down and power button and hold that 
until you hear it say either emergency or whatever it’s gonna say and then you 
bring it back to where it says Power off and double tap on that and it will be 
off.

Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!

> On Apr 7, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
> 
> From 
> https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/09/21/how-to-force-restart-your-iphone-11-iphone-11-pro-or-iphone-11-pro-max:
> 
> Press the volume up button once
> 
> Press the volume down button once
> 
> Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button
> 
> Keep holding even when you see Slide to Power Off
> 
> Keep holding until you see the Apple logo
> 
> So, basically, press volume up, then press volume down, then hold the power 
> button for probably about 15 seconds.
> 
> 
>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
>> 
>> I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot my
>> phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't
>> make it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> 
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RE: Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[territek]

Don,
Press the right side button and volume up together at the same time. Then swipe 
to "slide to power off."

-Original Message-
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
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I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot my 
phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't make 
it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance!



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Re: Rebooting A Phone With No Home Button?

[Wayne Merritt]

I've had the best success when pressing the volume up button, then
volume down, and then holding the power for a few seconds. It usually
takes a couple of seconds and then I get a power off button. As
mentioned earlier, if you want a hard reboot, hold the power button
for 10 to 15 seconds and then release. It will take a little bit
longer, but VoiceOver will come back. I'm doing this on an iPhone XR.

Be well,
Wayne

On 4/7/20, Diane Giannetti  wrote:
> With the volume down in the volume up and then hitting the power button,
> that will do a hard reboot. Without a hard reboot is that however, if you
> just want to shut it down normally just do the volume down and power button
> and hold that until you hear it say either emergency or whatever it’s gonna
> say and then you bring it back to where it says Power off and double tap on
> that and it will be off.
>
> Sent from Diane's awesome iPhone!
>
>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 6:55 AM, Devin Prater  wrote:
>>
>> From
>> https://appleinsider.com/articles/19/09/21/how-to-force-restart-your-iphone-11-iphone-11-pro-or-iphone-11-pro-max:
>>
>> Press the volume up button once
>>
>> Press the volume down button once
>>
>> Press and hold the Sleep/Wake button
>>
>> Keep holding even when you see Slide to Power Off
>>
>> Keep holding until you see the Apple logo
>>
>> So, basically, press volume up, then press volume down, then hold the
>> power button for probably about 15 seconds.
>>
>>
>>> On Apr 7, 2020, at 5:48 AM, Don Moore  wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got the iPhone 11 because my 8 broke open.  I was looking to reboot
>>> my
>>> phone, and while the button on the right does allot of stuff, I couldn't
>>> make it shut down to reboot it.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Holly,

I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power button, 
that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on the side, 
I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone X will 
comment on this for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hello group:
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
> 
> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
> like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
> the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
> won't get any alerts or calls.
> 
> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
> 
> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
> press to hear the time announced?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[regina alvarado]

Holly, in settings on the X there is a setting in accessibility to be able to 
just tap the screen. It will take you to your notifications and if I remember 
correctly it will give you the time or you can swipe to it. Screen is still 
locked however, and face ID is necessary to read any notifications. Please 
someone correct me if I am incorrect where this option is. 

Speaking of that screen when you tap the locked screen. I found a way to give 
light to face ID on this screen as it has a difficult time with face ID in 
darkness. If I turn on the flashlight in the lower left corner it will give 
enough light to unlock the notification screen. When I hear it unlock I turn 
off the flashlight again and swipe from the bottom of the screen to go to the 
home screen.

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On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:

Hello group:

I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.

One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
won't get any alerts or calls.

When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, put 
it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This way I 
don't disturb my sleeping spouse.

If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I press 
to hear the time announced?



Thanks in advance.

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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Maria Reyes]

Hi,
You can press the side button which is the power button to get the time. 

Sent from my Sprint iPhone X!!!
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> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:46 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:
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> Hi Holly,
> 
> I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
> hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power 
> button, that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on 
> the side, I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone 
> X will comment on this for you. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group:
>> 
>> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
>> 
>> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
>> I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
>> enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
>> so I won't get any alerts or calls.
>> 
>> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
>> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
>> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
>> 
>> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
>> press to hear the time announced?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Can you turn off the facial recognition feature?  I know you can turn off 
the pass code feature in the iPhone 7.  That way, the phone is always 
unlocked.


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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[l . d . ethier23]

Yes you xo

Lyne

> Le 28 janv. 2019 à 17:09, Holly  a écrit :
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> Can you turn off the facial recognition feature?  I know you can turn off the 
> pass code feature in the iPhone 7.  That way, the phone is always unlocked.
> 
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Will pressing the power button to bring up the time work when the phone is 
locked? 


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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Marie]

The passcode and face ID are off by default and will only be active if you 
select to use them.



-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Can you turn off the facial recognition feature?  I know you can turn off
the pass code feature in the iPhone 7.  That way, the phone is always
unlocked.

Holly

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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick press 
of the power button on the side.
That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
wife if I just want to know what time it is.
In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any Walmart 
or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and marking it up 
like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these things are so 
cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of how careful you 
may be when checking the time.
I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
nightstand clock for me too.
I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed these 
types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the watch or 
perhaps through a third party app.
I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not so 
attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
not just the watch.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Hi Holly,

I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power button, 
that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on the side, 
I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone X will 
comment on this for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hello group:
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
> 
> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
> like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
> the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
> won't get any alerts or calls.
> 
> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
> 
> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
> press to hear the time announced?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Holly 
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Les Kriegler]

Hi Holly,

Yes, it should work because that also starts the unlocking process. So it 
should work.

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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[regina alvarado]

Not sure the side button works by pushing the power button. I just tried it, 
and all I can get it to say from locked screen is 8 notifications. Sure wished 
it worked. If I want to read my notifications from that screen I unlock. Hmmm! 
Maybe accessibility needs to get this suggestion.

Reggie and Lex
God said, "I need somebody strong enough to pull sleds and find bombs, yet 
gentle enough to love babies and lead the blind. Somebody who will spend all 
day on a couch with a resting head and supportive eyes to lift the spirits of a 
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On Jan 28, 2019, at 5:33 PM, Les Kriegler  wrote:

Hi Holly,

Yes, it should work because that also starts the unlocking process. So it 
should work.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Thanks
Cristóbal:

I am not very good at braille.  I can just turn the volume down on my phone 
and slip it under my pillow.  The pillow mutes the sound and I can hear the 
time announce without disturbing my hubby.


So, as I understand it, just tapping the power button on the 10R would 
announce the time whether it was locked or not.


Thanks for all of your help.

Bye the way, how do the owners of the 10r like it compared to the 7?

Holly 


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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Vivian Conger]

Just tapping the Power button will work as long as you don't have any 
notifications that came in while you were sleeping.  When someone texts me or I 
get a news alert it will go on the screen that comes up when I push the Power 
button.  If there is anything listed there that I haven't cleared, then I don't 
get the time but get the notifications read.

I hope this makes sense.

Vivian


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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:44 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Thanks
Cristóbal:

I am not very good at braille.  I can just turn the volume down on my phone and 
slip it under my pillow.  The pillow mutes the sound and I can hear the time 
announce without disturbing my hubby.

So, as I understand it, just tapping the power button on the 10R would announce 
the time whether it was locked or not.

Thanks for all of your help.

Bye the way, how do the owners of the 10r like it compared to the 7?

Holly 

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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

To be clear, a braille watch really is a misnomer. Be it a clock or watch, 
you're talking more about simple tactile markers. There's no braille involved. 
Markings at every hour and a bigger/different marking at the 12, 3, 6 and 9 
o'clock locations.  They're just referred as braille watches I guess to convey 
that they're meant for the blind. I believe a couple of "smart watches" for the 
blind that incorporates Braille into them have come out, but that's a totally 
separate deal.
The Bradley watch works a bit different since it uses ball barings to indicate 
the time, but again, you tell the time by markings. No braille.
The XR is fine. I don't really care for  Face ID, but oh well. Tomato/tommato.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Holly
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:44 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Thanks
Cristóbal:

I am not very good at braille.  I can just turn the volume down on my phone and 
slip it under my pillow.  The pillow mutes the sound and I can hear the time 
announce without disturbing my hubby.

So, as I understand it, just tapping the power button on the 10R would announce 
the time whether it was locked or not.

Thanks for all of your help.

Bye the way, how do the owners of the 10r like it compared to the 7?

Holly 

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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Hi Vivian:

Makes perfect sense.  Unfortunately, I always have at least one or two news 
alerts first thing in the morning.


Oh well, guess I will just stick with my 7 for now.  It is paid for. 
Hahahaha.


Holly 


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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Carolyn Arnold]

Power does it on even the SE. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


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Les Kriegler
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:46 PM
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Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Hi Holly,

I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power button, 
that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on the side, 
I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone X will 
comment on this for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hello group:
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
> 
> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
> like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
> the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
> won't get any alerts or calls.
> 
> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
> 
> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
> press to hear the time announced?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Holly 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Robert Wright]

You can tap the top left corner to get the time. When you tap the top right 
corner you get your battery status. 

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
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From: Holly
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 2:29 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Hello group:

I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.

One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
so I won't get any alerts or calls.

When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. 
This way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.

If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
press to hear the time announced?



Thanks in advance.

Holly 

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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Holly]

Well, since I want to keep the phone under my pillow, tapping is not an option.

Thanks though.

Holly

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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Robert Wright]

Hitting that side button which use to be the power button will also give you 
the time.

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From: Holly
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 8:11 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Well, since I want to keep the phone under my pillow, tapping is not an option.
 
Thanks though.
 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Mr. Ed]

Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening the 
phone.

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Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick press 
of the power button on the side.
That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
wife if I just want to know what time it is.
In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any Walmart 
or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and marking it up 
like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these things are so 
cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of how careful you 
may be when checking the time.
I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
nightstand clock for me too.
I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed these 
types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the watch or 
perhaps through a third party app.
I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not so 
attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
not just the watch.

Cristóbal

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Hi Holly,

I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power button, 
that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on the side, 
I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone X will 
comment on this for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hello group:
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
> 
> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
> like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
> the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
> won't get any alerts or calls.
> 
> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
> 
> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
> press to hear the time announced?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Holly 
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Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Anthony Vece]

I have the iPhone XR.
Indeed it does have the raise to wake feature.
I am mediately turned it off.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 10R!!!

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
> 6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening 
> the phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick 
> press of the power button on the side.
> That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
> wife if I just want to know what time it is.
> In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any 
> Walmart or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and 
> marking it up like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these 
> things are so cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of 
> how careful you may be when checking the time.
> I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
> check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
> wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
> nightstand clock for me too.
> I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
> patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed 
> these types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the 
> watch or perhaps through a third party app.
> I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
> related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not 
> so attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
> I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
> pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
> not just the watch.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> Hi Holly,
> 
> I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
> hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power 
> button, that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on 
> the side, I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone 
> X will comment on this for you. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group:
>> 
>> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
>> 
>> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
>> I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
>> enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
>> so I won't get any alerts or calls.
>> 
>> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
>> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
>> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
>> 
>> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
>> press to hear the time announced?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Cristóbal Muñoz]

The XR also has tap to wake which I've found to be handy. Raise to wake can be 
a pain.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

I have the iPhone XR.
Indeed it does have the raise to wake feature.
I am mediately turned it off.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 10R!!!

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
> 6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening 
> the phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick 
> press of the power button on the side.
> That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
> wife if I just want to know what time it is.
> In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any 
> Walmart or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and 
> marking it up like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these 
> things are so cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of 
> how careful you may be when checking the time.
> I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
> check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
> wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
> nightstand clock for me too.
> I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
> patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed 
> these types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the 
> watch or perhaps through a third party app.
> I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
> related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not 
> so attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
> I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
> pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
> not just the watch.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> Hi Holly,
> 
> I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
> hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power 
> button, that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on 
> the side, I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone 
> X will comment on this for you. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group:
>> 
>> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
>> 
>> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
>> I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
>> enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
>> so I won't get any alerts or calls.
>> 
>> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
>> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
>> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
>> 
>> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
>> press to hear the time announced?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Holly 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Carolyn Arnold]

Oh yes, tap to wake would be great. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:35 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

The XR also has tap to wake which I've found to be handy. Raise to wake can be 
a pain.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Anthony 
Vece
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 3:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

I have the iPhone XR.
Indeed it does have the raise to wake feature.
I am mediately turned it off.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 10R!!!

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
> 6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening 
> the phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick 
> press of the power button on the side.
> That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
> wife if I just want to know what time it is.
> In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any 
> Walmart or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and 
> marking it up like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these 
> things are so cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of 
> how careful you may be when checking the time.
> I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
> check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
> wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
> nightstand clock for me too.
> I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
> patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed 
> these types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the 
> watch or perhaps through a third party app.
> I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
> related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not 
> so attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
> I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
> pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
> not just the watch.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> Hi Holly,
> 
> I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
> hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power 
> button, that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on 
> the side, I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone 
> X will comment on this for you. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group:
>> 
>> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
>> 
>> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
>> I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
>> enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
>> so I won't get any alerts or calls.
>> 
>> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
>> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
>> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
>> 
>> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
>> press to hear the time announced?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Holly 
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>> 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Carolyn Arnold]

I have it turned off on my SE and don't think I'd turn it on on any iPhone I'd 
be getting in the future. 

As I understand it, if you have facial recognition, all you have to do is lift 
your phone while looking at it, and the Home Screen will come on. 

When I first got my phone, Raise to Wake was active, and turning it off helped 
a lot with battery life. 

Best regards,

Carolyn 


-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Anthony Vece
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 6:33 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

I have the iPhone XR.
Indeed it does have the raise to wake feature.
I am mediately turned it off.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone 10R!!!

> On Jan 30, 2019, at 6:21 PM, Mr. Ed  wrote:
> 
> Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
> 6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening 
> the phone.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Cristóbal Muñoz
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick 
> press of the power button on the side.
> That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
> wife if I just want to know what time it is.
> In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any 
> Walmart or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and 
> marking it up like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these 
> things are so cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of 
> how careful you may be when checking the time.
> I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
> check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
> wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
> nightstand clock for me too.
> I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
> patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed 
> these types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the 
> watch or perhaps through a third party app.
> I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
> related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not 
> so attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
> I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
> pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
> not just the watch.
> 
> Cristóbal
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
> Kriegler
> Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button
> 
> Hi Holly,
> 
> I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
> hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power 
> button, that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on 
> the side, I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone 
> X will comment on this for you. Good luck.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello group:
>> 
>> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
>> 
>> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. 
>> I like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I 
>> enable the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, 
>> so I won't get any alerts or calls.
>> 
>> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
>> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
>> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
>> 
>> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
>> press to hear the time announced?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> Holly 
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RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

[Robert Wright]

Yes, raise to wake is there. Its still in settings/brightness

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!  
  ***    

From: Mr. Ed
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2019 4:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Does the iPhone 10x and 10R have the raise to wake feature? Like on my iPhone 
6s plus I can raise my iPhone up and VO announces the time without opening the 
phone.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Cristóbal Muñoz
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 4:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: iPhone 10 question about no home button

I was going to give the same answer. I have an XR, but same deal. A quick press 
of the power button on the side.
That said, I prefer to use a tactile means of checking the time to not bug my 
wife if I just want to know what time it is.
In the past, I've repurposed a cheap analog clock you can buy from any Walmart 
or Target or whatever by popping out the front plastic face and marking it up 
like any braille watch. This works well enough, but often these things are so 
cheaply made, the clock hands eventually fall off regardless of how careful you 
may be when checking the time.
I recently grabbed myself a Bradley Element tactile watch and now use this to 
check the time in the middle of the night. These aren't cheap watches, but I 
wanted a watch that wasn't a smartwatch anyway and now it doubles as a 
nightstand clock for me too.
I believe Apple watches have the ability to check the time via vibration 
patterns. I'm not interested in an Apple watch so haven't really followed these 
types of threads so don't recall if it's a built in function of the watch or 
perhaps through a third party app.
I've tried more standard fair braille watches from the typical blindness 
related stores and have found them to generally be poorly made and with not so 
attractive designs. They usually break within six months for me.
I'm not aware of any sort of app that can give the time in a vibrating/muted 
pattern, but it would be helpful to have something like this on the phone and 
not just the watch.

Cristóbal

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Les 
Kriegler
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2019 1:46 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iPhone 10 question about no home button

Hi Holly,

I don’t have an iPhone X, but when I want to get the time on my iPhone 8+, I 
hit the power button. My phone is usually locked in if I hit the power button, 
that gives me the time. If the iPhone X has the same power button on the side, 
I would think that would work. Certainly, those who have an iPhone X will 
comment on this for you. Good luck.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 28, 2019, at 4:29 PM, Holly  wrote:
> 
> Hello group:
> 
> I am considering upgrading to a IPhone 10.  I now have a iPhone 7.
> 
> One thing I was wondering about is the fact that the 10 has no home button. I 
> like to take my phone to bed at night and keep it under my pillow.  I enable 
> the 'do not disturb' feature from the time I go to bed until morning, so I 
> won't get any alerts or calls.
> 
> When I wake up during the night, I can just find my phone under my pillow, 
> put it under my ear and hit the home button to hear the time announced. This 
> way I don't disturb my sleeping spouse.
> 
> If I got a 10, what gesture would I have to make, or what button would I 
> press to hear the time announced?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Holly 
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Work around to cope with No home button

[Turabh]

Hi all, 
I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also any 
resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface . 
Best 
Turab

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Re: Work around to cope with No home button

[Gordon]

There is a gesture for home, app switcher and control center and 
notifications. The rest of the stuff is done with the side button such 
as Siri and turning voice over on and off.


On 5/11/2019 5:57 AM, Turabh wrote:

Hi all,
I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also any 
resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface .
Best
Turab



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Re: Work around to cope with No home button

[Turabh]

Thanks Gordon. How  can v use that for minimising and closing apps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11-May-2019, at 4:42 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> There is a gesture for home, app switcher and control center and 
> notifications. The rest of the stuff is done with the side button such as 
> Siri and turning voice over on and off.
> 
>> On 5/11/2019 5:57 AM, Turabh wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
>> voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also any 
>> resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface .
>> Best
>> Turab
>> 
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RE: Work around to cope with No home button

[Richard Turner]

I found these on a web site but since I do not have a device without a home 
button, I cannot confirm that they all work.  I do know the ones for going to 
the home screen, app switcher, Control Center, and Notification Center work 
since I have clients with these devices.  Haven't tried the rest.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
•   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
•   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
•   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button 
•   Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
•   Turn off the iPhone: Click and hold the Side button and Volume up or 
down button.  The Slide to Power Off screen will appear. Release the buttons! 
(It’s crucial to release the buttons because Emergency SOS will automatically 
activate if you continue to hold them down.  Then double tap the power off 
button on the screen
•   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 
New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
•   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until you feel the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Activate Teachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.
Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
•   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.


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-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Turabh
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Work around to cope with No home button

Thanks Gordon. How  can v use that for minimising and closing apps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11-May-2019, at 4:42 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> There is a gesture for home, app switcher and control center and 
> notifications. The rest of the stuff is done with the side button such as 
> Siri and turning voice over on and off.
> 
>> On 5/11/2019 5:57 AM, Turabh wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
>> voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also any 
>> resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface .
>> Best
>> Turab
>> 
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RE: Work around to cope with No home button

[Sieghard Weitzel]

There are Podcasts on Applevis, somebody can of course describe the gestures, 
but hearing them demonstrated is probably more useful.

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Richard 
Turner
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:37 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Work around to cope with No home button

I found these on a web site but since I do not have a device without a home 
button, I cannot confirm that they all work.  I do know the ones for going to 
the home screen, app switcher, Control Center, and Notification Center work 
since I have clients with these devices.  Haven't tried the rest.

For devices without a home button:
Side button replacing Home button commands
•   Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter 
your passcode
•   Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
•   Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button 
and Volume Up button 
•   Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
•   Turn off the iPhone: Click and hold the Side button and Volume up or 
down button.  The Slide to Power Off screen will appear. Release the buttons! 
(It’s crucial to release the buttons because Emergency SOS will automatically 
activate if you continue to hold them down.  Then double tap the power off 
button on the screen
•   Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 
New Gestures replacing function of the Home button Starting at the bottom of 
the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel three haptic vibrations 
referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" when pressing the Home 
button). Each of these three clicks will activate a function. Note: The first 
click alerts you that you are in the feature.
•   Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
finger up until you feel the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Activate Teachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
down.
Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
•   Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
•   Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
finger down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.


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rather, a knack to flying. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at 
the ground and miss." --Douglas Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, 
p.59

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Turabh
Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:11 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Work around to cope with No home button

Thanks Gordon. How  can v use that for minimising and closing apps 

Sent from my iPhone

> On 11-May-2019, at 4:42 PM, Gordon  wrote:
> 
> There is a gesture for home, app switcher and control center and 
> notifications. The rest of the stuff is done with the side button such as 
> Siri and turning voice over on and off.
> 
>> On 5/11/2019 5:57 AM, Turabh wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
>> voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also any 
>> resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface .
>> Best
>> Turab
>> 
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Re: Work around to cope with No home button

[Jennie Facer]

Hi,

Yes these gestures work. If I can be of any help, please let me know. My email 
address is pup...@icloud.com

Jenn

Jenn and Kumi

> On May 11, 2019, at 7:37 AM, Richard Turner  
> wrote:
> 
> I found these on a web site but since I do not have a device without a home 
> button, I cannot confirm that they all work.  I do know the ones for going to 
> the home screen, app switcher, Control Center, and Notification Center work 
> since I have clients with these devices.  Haven't tried the rest.
> 
> For devices without a home button:
> Side button replacing Home button commands
> •Unlock Phone: Facial Recognition, or tap the  Side button and enter your 
> passcode
> •Accessibility Shortcut: Triple click of the Side button 
> •Screenshot: Simultaneously press and quickly release the Side button and 
> Volume Up button 
> •Activate Siri: Press and hold the Side button 
> •Turn off the iPhone: Click and hold the Side button and Volume up or 
> down button.  The Slide to Power Off screen will appear. Release the buttons! 
> (It’s crucial to release the buttons because Emergency SOS will automatically 
> activate if you continue to hold them down.  Then double tap the power off 
> button on the screen
> •Activate Apple Pay: Double click the Side button 
> New Gestures replacing function of the Home button
> Starting at the bottom of the screen and slide one finger up. You will feel 
> three haptic vibrations referred to as "clicks" (similar to the old "click" 
> when pressing the Home button). Each of these three clicks will activate a 
> function. Note: The first click alerts you that you are in the feature.
> •Return to the Home screen: From the bottom of the screen slide one 
> finger up until the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> •Activate the App Switcher: From the bottom of the screen, slide one 
> finger up until you feel the third click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> •Activate Teachability mode (if enabled in Settings): From the bottom of 
> the screen, slide one finger up until you feel the first click. Quickly flick 
> down.
> Starting at the top of the screen, slide one finger down to feel the clicks.
> •Access the Control Center: From the top of the screen, slide one finger 
> down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> •Access the Notification Center: From the top of the screen, slide one 
> finger down until you feel the second click. Lift your finger from the screen.
> 
> 
> Check out my web site at: www.turner42.com
> “The Hitch Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy has this to say on the subject of 
> flying.  There is an art, it says, or rather, a knack to flying. The knack 
> lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss." --Douglas 
> Adams, from Life, The Universe and Everything, p.59
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Turabh
> Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2019 6:11 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Work around to cope with No home button
> 
> Thanks Gordon. How  can v use that for minimising and closing apps 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On 11-May-2019, at 4:42 PM, Gordon  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a gesture for home, app switcher and control center and 
>> notifications. The rest of the stuff is done with the side button such as 
>> Siri and turning voice over on and off.
>> 
>>> On 5/11/2019 5:57 AM, Turabh wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>> I plan to shift  from iPhone  6 to XR. How to close/ minimise apps, on/ off 
>>> voice over and perform other functions  as there is no home button. Also 
>>> any resource  to help  me better  adjust  to change  in interface .
>>> Best
>>> Turab
>>> 
>> 
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