Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Kerri Kosten
Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two years now.
I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up button.
I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: ios 7 is out!!

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day
i've just trired this and it's saying it's dowloading dimmed %0 and it 
appears it's still stuck



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On 18/09/2013 19:36, hannah day wrote:

ar thanks for the idea  i wil try this


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On 18/09/2013 19:32, Joseph Hudson wrote:

Hello Hannah, try turning your phone off and then turning back on
again and then getting the update.

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At Joseph Hutson 89 Sent from my iPad

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:30 PM, hannah day
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Ok thanks for lettting us no i'm trying to get it but a error accurs


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On 18/09/2013 18:00, Ioana Gandrabur wrote:

Software update ready!


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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I have RP, so I lost my vision gradually once I entered my teens. 
Consequently, I was taught how to write, and I'm old enough for that to 
include cursive, so I'll be interested in this new feature.


On 09/18/2013 12:40 PM, Chuck Dean wrote:

Hello Annie,
You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not 
necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write in a 
very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and this 
particular feature may come in handy.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson carol.pearso...@googlemail.com 
wrote:


Annie,

I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my name. I 
used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now !

I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you could 
actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I thinking too far 
ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities for a number of people. 
Well done to Apple!
Carol P
Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:

Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind 
from birth, I have not learned handwriting.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com:


I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd 
be nice if you can print.

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:


What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and 
innovating for Voice Over  users!! Isn't that great?!?

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Re: A walkthrough of new features in IOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Carol Pearson
Thanks, I enjoyed it, and even thought I wanted to have a go with the radio!

Thanks to doing it and forgetting it out in a timely manner! I also discovered 
the answer to one of my questions which made it even better still !

Carol P
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On 18 Sep 2013, at 06:10 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi folks,

I did a walkthrough of some of the new features and improvements in IOS 7.

You can listen at
http://www.appletothecore.info/2013/09/an-ios-7-walkthrough.html

hth

Ricardo Walker
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Re: ios 7 is out!!

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day

Liz  it's downoading now but it's stuck on %0


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On 18/09/2013 18:56, Liz and Sammie wrote:

Hi Hannah!  Right now I would guess that the server is loaded with a lot
of people downloading the update.  If you get an error message, give it
some time and try again later.
Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie
Westwood Church of God Internet Prayer Chain Coordinator

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Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval

2013-09-18 Thread Richard Ring
I agree completely about the Nexus. It simply can't compare to iOS!


You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro 
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On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:

 Actually, you can do this in chrome as well. In the global talkback menu, 
 there is an option for navigation, opening this will allow you to navigate by 
 web element. I do use firefox though since it's a bit faster.
 Original message:
 I'm not the original person who made the comment, but I've tried a Google 
 Nexus.  For one thing, I can't move around with a bluetooth keyboard as well 
 as I can on an iPhone/iPad.  For web browsing, the only way you can navigate 
 by elements such as heading is if you install Firefox.  This is OK I guess, 
 but I can't help but wonder why this isn't in TalkBack.  In my opinion, 
 accessing Voice Search isn't as efficient as accessing Siri.  When I want to 
 access Siri, I just hold down the Home button until I hear the double-beep.  
 When I want to access Voice Search, I have to look for it on the touch 
 screen and double-tap.  To me, that seems to defeat the purpose.
 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:14 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 I'd be curious to know what you think it's still lacking.
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:08 PM, Richard Ring richr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Having used an Android tablet and several i devices, I would have to say 
 that Android accessibility is almost as good as it was in the iPhone 3GS. 
 Still a ways to go in my opinion.
 
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
 Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro
 richr...@gmail.com
 
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 2:50 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 This may still be the case, not sure, but the number of blind android 
 users is growing fast, and that's a very good thing. The level of 
 accessibility that is provided is now on the same level, another good 
 thing.
 Original message:
 One thing that may have enfluenced the NLS is, there are probably more 
 blind iOS users than android users.
 
 You can have an off day, but you can't have a day off! ---The Art of 
 Fielding
 Sent from my Mac Book Pro
 richr...@gmail.com mailto:richr...@gmail.com
 
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:31 AM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net 
 mailto:n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 
 Hopefully the android version will not be far behind, I actually wish 
 they would have released them both at the same time.
 Original message:
 
 
 I was a beta tester, and they just sent out the announcement that the 
 beta
 is over and the app has been submitted.
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com 
 [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com http://googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Scott Rumery
 Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:40 AM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: BARD app submitted to Apple for approval
 
 
 
 How do you know this? If this is true then that is great news because I 
 know
 that there are a lot of blind people who have been waiting a very log 
 time
 for it.
 
 
 
 Scott Rumery
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Bill Holton bill32...@gmail.com 
 mailto:bill32...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 The app has been submitted, so should be out very soon.
 
 
 
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Update is only Available on devices right now. How to stop phone calls during update

2013-09-18 Thread Lea Langley
Hi all!
I talked to Apple and found out that the update is only available on the 
devices right now. It has not been released to iTunes yet.
Also the person I talked to to told me how to stop phone calls during the 
update. Turn on airplane mode. There is an option to leave Wifi on. Be sure 
that Wifi is left on. This way the update will not be interrupted.
God Bless,
Wren


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Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Fred Olver
Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both will 
ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both places. I 
recommend you not upgrade the 4S to IOS 7. In a previous post it was pointed 
out that the 4S when working with IOS 7 is sluggish. If you are going to get 
or thinking to get a 5s than do it, and leave the upgrade of the 4S to it's 
next owner.
Check with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the upgrade and 
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run in to a 
problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the 
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple 
accessability at 877 204-3930.


Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - 
From: Kerri Kosten kerrik2...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S



Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two years 
now.

I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up 
button.

I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
Hi John,

I also don't like that it is difficult to swipe on an IOS device screen 
after one washes his or her hands. I often have to repeatedly swipe my 
fingertips on some sort of cloth, but out of impatience, often that cloth 
turns out to be my shirt. I do this to completely dry off all moisture from 
my fingers, and if I need to get something sent off, I execute a scrub 
gesture on my forearm to get my fingers all oily again. Smile.

Will definitely have to look into a stylus for my iPod.

Joseph

- Original Message - 
From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!


Using a stylus is a great idea as the finger gets sweaty sometimes.
They are easily available since they are still used for portable game
machines.

On 9/18/13, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello Annie,
 You should also remember that a lot of people who use voice over are not
 necessarily blind, but visually impaired like myself. I learned hand write
 in a very young age and still do sometimes. But I have limited vision, and
 this particular feature may come in handy.

 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:15 AM, Carol Pearson 
 carol.pearso...@googlemail.com
 wrote:

 Annie,

 I am also blindfrom birth and can't handwrite, apart from signing my 
 name.
 I used to know the whole alphabet but can't remember it now !

 I am thinking, though, if you can use this in an ordinary document, you
 could actually learn how to handwrite so that it was readable! Am I
 thinking too far ahead! Perhaps so, but I do think it has possibilities
 for a number of people. Well done to Apple!
 Carol P
 Sent from my iPhone using MBraille

 On 18 Sep 2013, at 05:58 PM, Annie Skov Nielsen
 annieskovniel...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am
 blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting.

 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com:

 I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive
 and it'd be nice if you can print.

 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:

 What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is
 thinking and innovating for Voice Over  users!! Isn't that great?!?

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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I have a question about list recorder.  It sounds really good but you didn't 
mention in what format or formats the recordings are made.
Do you get to choose or are you stuck with some weird format that only the 
app can decode?  Thanks in advance for any further information you can 
provide.---


Regards,

Alan

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From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List Recorder.  It 
is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has ways of 
controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions and 
gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for 
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of 
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not 
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a 
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to 
store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and 
sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio 
description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things 
or add the next recording to a list.


You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back 
up all the recordings to your computer.


Eric Caron

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:


Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it 
also
makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for 
a

relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good 
investment!


Still open for competition though...

And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice 
memos

as a recorder?

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Raul A. Gallegos
Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from 
it
speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where 
on
the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave 
you

out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally 
quiet,

but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do 
that,

there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from 
lowest

to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
work on the 5 just as good.

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lobsters in the ship's kitchen. - Sheldon Cooper Twitter and Facebook user
ID: rau47

On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:

Hi all.

Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented with several, with
results ranging from average (basic workability) to totally unusable
and/or totally silent, with VO going into apparent paralysis and
causing me to do likewise.  I am after something with as clear as
possible recording quality, to be used for recording meetings etc, and
which allows for easy transfer of the digital files 

Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread MamaPeach
I thought it was said that IOS 7 was sluggish on the 4, not the 4S. I have 
heard two different opinions on this and so am not sure whether or not my 
boyfriend should upgrade his 4S.


-Original Message- 
From: Fred Olver

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New 
Iphone5S


Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both will
ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both places. I
recommend you not upgrade the 4S to IOS 7. In a previous post it was pointed
out that the 4S when working with IOS 7 is sluggish. If you are going to get
or thinking to get a 5s than do it, and leave the upgrade of the 4S to it's
next owner.
Check with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the upgrade and
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run in to a
problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple
accessability at 877 204-3930.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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From: Kerri Kosten kerrik2...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S



Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two years 
now.

I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up 
button.

I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Arianna
Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to the home 
screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice over to read an icon 
that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about closing apps periodically, so I 
don't think I'll have an issue where I have say, 50 apps open all at once, or 
something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 series, but it 
 still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running too many apps at this 
 time).  Performance degradation is expected on 4 due to processor and 
 graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other iDevices running 7 have dual core 
 processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus issue 
 in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7 would be in 
 order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4
 
 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently upgraded to 
 it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this year, too.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be even 
 worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how unresponsive it is on 
 the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly.  I've read about 
 sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering holding off 
 upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who ran prerelease 
 versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people who do the upgrade on a 4 
 is today?
 
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re: Are Containers now an iPhone standard, or are they an option?

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
This one is an option (a rotor option to be exact).  To turn this 
off, go to Settings/General/ACCESSIBILITY/VoiceOver/Rotor.  
Container option is towards the bottom of the list.
Think of containers as areas or groupings of related controls.  
For instance, containers can be used to move to different Mail 
app controls without going through different message properties, 
such as jumping to navigation header, mail properties and message 
options (reply, forward, etc.) by using container flicks.

Cheers,
Joseph
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:13:27 +
Subject: Are Containers now an iPhone standard, or are they an 
option?


Just curious.  If not an option, does anyone have help on how to 
best use them? I tried an iPad with them, and couldn't get the 
hang of them.


Thanks.  Keith

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Handwriting in iOS7

2013-09-18 Thread Marcy Weinberg
Hello, everybody,

Beginning today, and  for the next 10 days, Monday through Friday, Fedora 
Outlier will be posting blogs, each concentrating on a new feature in IOS7, or 
what changes have been implemented in particular areas such as mail.

The first blog is about the feature most of us have been anticipating, 
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Enjoy!

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Moderator's message about progress reports - Was Re: ios 7 is out!!

2013-09-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hey all, I know it's exciting to be getting the iOS update. However 
unless it's something unique to your specific situation, giving the list 
a progress update isn't necessary at all.


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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not 
running too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is 
expected on 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart 
from 4, other iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and 
enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably 
focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of 
bugs in 7 would be in order).

Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
year, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org 
wrote:


It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would 
be even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com 
wrote:


I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly.  
I've read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am 
considering holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's 
experiences who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what 
experiences of people who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?


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Re: Availability of 5s

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
They said the 5s and 5c will be out on 9/20/2013.  I would guess on the 
first few days the stores will be a real zoo.  Walmart stores are offering 
an extra 20 bucks off the price the rest of the stores will offer as a part 
of a test market Apple will be conducting according to the iPhone Life app. 
Apple wants to find out how many  will forego the apple stores and cell 
carriers.  Note: even if you do get your phone at Walmart, you can still 
choose the major carrier of your choice.

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Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


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There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
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website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Lynda Ingraham lynda.ingra...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:20 PM
Subject: Availability of 5s



Hi Everyone,
Has anyone seen anything about when ATT and Verizon will have the 5s
available for purchase?

Are the Apple stores going to be well-stocked or is each store only
receiving a few phones?

My 4s still has 32 days on the extended AppleCare. The volume up button
totally jammed today. I have no voice over. I can't schedule an 
appointment

to have the phone looked at until sometime mid to late next week. I never
realized how much I depend on my phone to organize my life until this
happened.

Thank you in advance,

Lynda




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Are Containers now an iPhone standard, or are they an option?

2013-09-18 Thread Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
Just curious. If not an option, does anyone have help on how to best use them? 
I tried an iPad with them, and couldn't get the hang of them.

Thanks. Keith

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iRadio?

2013-09-18 Thread Kliphton
Where is iRadio?  Can't seem to find it.

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Things to expect in iOS 7.0

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
At the moment I'm running iOS 7.0 on my 4S (works well so far).
For those who're planning to upgrade or in the middle of the 
upgrade, here are some things to expect:
* Control Center: you need to first focus on the status bar then 
swipe up with three fingers.  From Control Center, you can change 
the following: Airplane Mode, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, Do Not Disturb, 
AirPlay (if you're playing music), AirDrop (if you have iPhone 5 
and iTouch 5 or later) and control music playback.
* Container rotor: If you have iPhone or iTouch, when you first 
start iOS 7, in certain controls, VoiceOver will play container 
entry sound (the same one that is present on iPad) to let you 
know you're in a container - a group of related controls.  You 
can move to different containers (or groups) by switching to 
container rotor and doing one finger flick down (nextgg/up 
(previous).
* App Store: when you perform app updates, to see what's new in a 
given update, double-tap the name of the app.  Speaking of app 
updates, we have a number of app updates as expected, including 
Skype (which now allows you to join a group call straight from an 
iDevice), Twitter, Prizmo and so on.
* New gestures: As Scott mentioned, VO adds a number of handy 
gestures, including VoideOver Practice (four finger double tap).  
To exit this mode, do either: two finger scrub (back) or four 
finger double tap.
* Notification Center: To restore old behavior of showing missed 
notifications, select All button (by default, it opens a calendar 
like view to show you what's coming up for today).
* Settings: Cellular toggle is now on the main Settings screen 
between Bluetooth and Personal Hotspot.
* Status bar: If you're connected to wireless networks, VoiceOver 
will now announce the SSID (name) of your wireless network (not 
to be confused with cell carrier network).


Notable fixes:
* Mail app focus issue: In iOS 6 series, when you open a message 
then return to InBox, VO went to topmost message; this focus bug 
has been fixed (in 7, after you close the message, it'll return 
you back to messages list with the currently read message on 
focus).


Current bugs:
* Screen lock: when you lock the screen, VO will take up to a 
second to announce screen lock. Previously, VO said this right 
after you press sleep button to lock your unit.
* Unlock gesture: if you do three finger swipe right to unlock 
the device, VoiceOver will say, page 1 or (number) (usually 2).
* Vocalizer stuttering: It could be just my device (or 4S in 
general), but when Vocalizer (the synthesizer used in VoiceOver) 
speaks, it has some stutter in it (could be due to the fact that 
Apple did experiment with Vocalizer Expressive Compact voice, so 
perhaps that remnant is present).  (I might add that Vocalizer 
now has slightly better inflection when speaking).
* Siri responses (except older devices): Previously, when Siri 
returns, VoiceOver would read everything, including what Siri 
would have said and the actual contents of the screen.  This is 
not the case in iOS 7 in that VO does not read what should have 
been read after Siri finishes speaking (for example, when 
querying weather, VO does not announce the forecast or current 
conditions, something it did before).

Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Fred Olver
I have read that it is sluggish on both the 4 and the 4S. My daughter has a 
4 so I am telling her to wait for sure. And it was published on this list or 
another that there is some sluggishness on the 4S as well. Probably best to 
wait for IOS 7.01.



Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New 
Iphone5S



I thought it was said that IOS 7 was sluggish on the 4, not the 4S. I have 
heard two different opinions on this and so am not sure whether or not my 
boyfriend should upgrade his 4S.


-Original Message- 
From: Fred Olver

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New 
Iphone5S


Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both 
will

ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both places. I
recommend you not upgrade the 4S to IOS 7. In a previous post it was 
pointed
out that the 4S when working with IOS 7 is sluggish. If you are going to 
get
or thinking to get a 5s than do it, and leave the upgrade of the 4S to 
it's

next owner.
Check with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the upgrade 
and
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run in to 
a

problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple
accessability at 877 204-3930.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - 
From: Kerri Kosten kerrik2...@gmail.com

To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S



Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two years 
now.

I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up 
button.

I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my iPhone 
4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give me a heads up. 
That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was based on a beta version 
and not the final production version but as I say, it won't matter to me as 
I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.  Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. 
The download size is almost 700 mb.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my 
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - 
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to the 
home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice over to read 
an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about closing apps 
periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I have say, 50 apps 
open all at once, or something.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 series, but 
it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running too many apps at 
this time).  Performance degradation is expected on 4 due to processor and 
graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other iDevices running 7 have dual 
core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus 
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7 would be 
in order).

Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently upgraded 
to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this year, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be even 
worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how unresponsive it is 
on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly.  I've read 
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering holding 
off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who ran 
prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people who do the 
upgrade on a 4 is today?


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Re: question about auto updating applications in new I O S

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H
Go to settings iTunes and app stores and in the show all heading turn 
updates off.


On 18/09/2013 19:27, Brent Harbolt wrote:

Has anyone found out if you can turn the auto ap update feature off for
the new I O S?

Brent



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Re: iRadio?

2013-09-18 Thread Liz And Sammie
Going to the music app. On the bottom there will be the usual tabs playlist 
albums artists etc. The radio tab will be there as well select that and you 
will be in iTunes radio. I hope this helps

Liz Ulrich and Leader Dog Sammie


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 On Sep 18, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Kliphton kliph...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Where is iRadio?  Can't seem to find it.
 
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Mária Orovčíková

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something 
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update 
is not available at the moment.

Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my 
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give 
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was 
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I 
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.  
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly 
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to 
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice 
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about 
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I 
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running 
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on 
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other 
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus 
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7 
would be in order).

Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
year, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be 
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read 
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering 
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who 
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people 
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?


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Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
regarding List Recorder recording formats:
.WAV and CAF formats with 4 quality choices and optional stereo recording

Joseph
- Original Message - 
From: Alan Paganelli alanandsuza...@earthlink.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


I have a question about list recorder.  It sounds really good but you didn't
mention in what format or formats the recordings are made.
 Do you get to choose or are you stuck with some weird format that only the
app can decode?  Thanks in advance for any further information you can
provide.---

Regards,

Alan

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Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now!
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on my
website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - 
From: Eric Caron ecar...@comcast.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:35 PM
Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps


Hi Julie,

I would put in another recommendation for you to consider List Recorder.  It
is designed completely with the Voice Over user in mind so it has ways of
controlling recording and play back in several ways including motions and
gestures so you don't need to listen for buttons to stop a recording for
example.  Also, it is very powerful with regard to easy organization of
recordings.  It is a app with a lot of capabilities and most of us are not
using it to it's full potential.  I have Voxie Pro but other then making a
quick recording I don't find it useful.  I instead use list Recorder to
store all kinds of recorded information all organized neatly into list and
sub lists.  So weather I'm looking for my shopping list, the audio
description of my complicated stereo, or a recipe . I can easily find things
or add the next recording to a list.

You also have many ways to move recordings off the phone and can also back
up all the recordings to your computer.

Eric Caron

On Sep 16, 2013, at 12:13 PM, Julie Acton julie_ac...@bigpond.com wrote:

 Thanks Raul, this is really helpful.  Yes, while it makes intuitive sense
 that developers would want to prevent VO chatter from contaminating a
 recording (and as a user, it is damn beneficial to the end product), it
 also
 makes for a very anxious and mysterious user experience, particularly for
 a
 relative clutz like me who isn't very intuitive about where the important
 buttons like stop might be hiding in the silence.

 Voxie sounds like it's found some clever ways of dealing with this though,
 so I'll give it a go.  I see it costs $6, so I hope it's a good
 investment!

 Still open for competition though...

 And while on the subject, how have people found iphone's inbuilt voice
 memos
 as a recorder?

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Raul A. Gallegos
 Sent: Monday, 16 September 2013 10:55 PM
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: Accessible digital voice recorder aps

 Hi, the reason VO goes seemingly silent is because it helps prevent from
 it
 speaking on your recordings. The trouble is that if you don't know where
 on
 the screen the stop button is, that can be a bit disconcerting and leave
 you
 out at sea with no paddles. Or so it feels that way. So, here is what I
 recommend. Voxie Pro by Bottle Rocket. This also makes VO go totally
 quiet,
 but if you record in express mode, you can shake phone to start and shake
 once again to stop. Plus a tone is played when it starts and stops
 recording. Plus, if the shaking isn't working, or you don't want to do
 that,
 there is only one button in the middle of the screen, so if VO is silent
 because it's recording, just touch the middle of the screen once, then
 double tap like a normal button and the recording will stop. Voxie has the
 ability to record in 16Khz, 22Khz and 44Khz to make the quality from
 lowest
 to highest. You can save the recordings to your computer via iTunes file
 sharing or via the built-in web browser and get them from your pc browser
 that way. There are a ton of recording apps, but this one is the first one
 which comes to mind, and is my favorite. It doesn't have dropbox like some
 others do, but i still use this one over most on my iPhone 4s. It should
 work on the 5 just as good.

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 the
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 On 9/15/2013 8:12 PM, Julie Acton wrote:
 Hi all.

 Just wondering if anyone can recommend me a good, VO-accessible, voice
 recorder ap for Iphone 5?  I have experimented 

Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Remember too that sluggish is a very subjective term. Is it sluggish 
compared to the 5C/5s or compared to IOS 6 running on the 4S?


On 09/18/2013 01:56 PM, MamaPeach wrote:

I thought it was said that IOS 7 was sluggish on the 4, not the 4S. I
have heard two different opinions on this and so am not sure whether or
not my boyfriend should upgrade his 4S.

-Original Message- From: Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New
Iphone5S

Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both will
ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both places. I
recommend you not upgrade the 4S to IOS 7. In a previous post it was
pointed
out that the 4S when working with IOS 7 is sluggish. If you are going to
get
or thinking to get a 5s than do it, and leave the upgrade of the 4S to it's
next owner.
Check with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the upgrade and
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run in
to a
problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple
accessability at 877 204-3930.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - From: Kerri Kosten kerrik2...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S



Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two years
now.
I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up
button.
I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Re: Checkbook app for iPhone

2013-09-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos

Why would that be the case? Or, I'm not getting your humor.

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On 9/17/2013 12:05 PM, SSEric wrote:

Said with a grin, but, isn't using a checkbook with an iPhone a little like 
holding a writing crop when driving a Corvette!

Eric

On Sep 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi guys,
I did some looking around on Applevis, but didn’t see anything that caught 
my attention.  Does anyone know if there is a checkbook app for the iPhone that 
one can use to balance accounts and such?  Recommendations would be appreciated.


Take Care

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Aser Tolentino
I think that's just a matter of the servers being overloaded, both downloading 
and verifying the update. The download took quite a while and my iPhone 4 took 
an incredibly long time to actually install the update, but it's up and running 
now. Make no mistake, it is slower, but new features like control center, 
particularly the ease in switching between and closing apps works as 
advertised. If you plan on upgrading to a 5s soon, I'd say it wouldn't hurt to 
upgrade the 4 and play with the new features. If you're holding off on the 
purchase for a while though, I'd think twice as I could easily see getting 
frustrated by the lag.

Sent from my iPad

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:45 PM, hannah day hannahday2...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Hi I@m having a simular issue but mine is the oposite  mine says %1 then 
 after a while it kicks me off it says it's failed to download
 
 
 Hannah Day
 E-mail and Facebook: hannahday2...@googlemail.com
 MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk
 Skype: hannah.day
 Twitter: hannahday2009
 
 On 18/09/2013 20:38, Mária Orovčíková wrote:
 Hi list,
 I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
 I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
 When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
 like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
 is not available at the moment.
 Is there anything I could do about it?
 Thank you for your help in advance.
 With kind regards
 Maria
 
 On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
 iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
 me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
 based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
 say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
 Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
 ---
 
 Regards,
 
 Alan
 
 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!
 
 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
 now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
 everything.
 
 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
 played on
 the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
 on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!
 
 - Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4
 
 
 Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
 the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
 over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
 closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
 have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
 series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
 too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
 iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
 issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
 would be in order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
 Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4
 
 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
 upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
 year, too.
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:
 
 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
 even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
 unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
 http://Mosen.org
 
 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
 about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
 holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
 ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
 who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?
 
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day
Hi I@m having a simular issue but mine is the oposite  mine says %1 then 
after a while it kicks me off it says it's failed to download



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MSN: hannahday1...@hotmail.co.uk
Skype: hannah.day
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On 18/09/2013 20:38, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H
Ar not true read on another list that the sluggishness was based on a 
beta version.


On 18/09/2013 20:27, Fred Olver wrote:

I have read that it is sluggish on both the 4 and the 4S. My daughter
has a 4 so I am telling her to wait for sure. And it was published on
this list or another that there is some sluggishness on the 4S as well.
Probably best to wait for IOS 7.01.


Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - From: MamaPeach mamape...@charter.net
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New
Iphone5S



I thought it was said that IOS 7 was sluggish on the 4, not the 4S. I
have heard two different opinions on this and so am not sure whether
or not my boyfriend should upgrade his 4S.

-Original Message- From: Fred Olver
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:51 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New
Iphone5S

Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both
will
ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both
places. I
recommend you not upgrade the 4S to IOS 7. In a previous post it was
pointed
out that the 4S when working with IOS 7 is sluggish. If you are going
to get
or thinking to get a 5s than do it, and leave the upgrade of the 4S to
it's
next owner.
Check with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the
upgrade and
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run
in to a
problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple
accessability at 877 204-3930.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - From: Kerri Kosten kerrik2...@gmail.com
To: viphone viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:57 PM
Subject: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New
Iphone5S



Hi Everyone:

I currently have an Iphone 4S. I have had this 4s for around two
years now.
I have tons of music on it, nine pages of apps, and tons of contacts.
Because it's been around two years since I've gotten a new phone, I am
considering possibly getting the new Iphone 5S.
However, with all my music, contacts, and apps on this phone what do I
need to do to ensure everything could be transferred to the new phone
if I get one?
I of course will sync my phone to Itunes and will click the back up
button.
I also have stuff backed up on ICloud.
However, how will this work? Can they transfer my music and contacts
at the ATT store?
Also, whether I get the new phone or not, I am planning to upgrade to
the new IOS7.
Since it is such a major upgrade, how can I ensure I don't lose my
music and contacts after upgrading?
If I make sure to sync my phone and hit the back up button, and then
make sure to do a backup in ICloud, should I be covered then?
I am most concerned about my contacts and music more than anything.
Thanks,
Kerri

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Before getting the 5s...

2013-09-18 Thread Crystal French
Okay, I will be moving from the iPhone 4 to the 5s.
I have only had the iPhone 4.
I will, of course, backup my 4, but am wondering what else I might need to know.
They should be able to move my contacts from the 4 to the 5s, I know.
I am planning to go to the ATT store.
I am thinking about iTunes.
Will it transfer all my content to the new iPhone automatically?
I am thinking about going on Friday.  I can’t believe I am even thinking about 
doing that, but...
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread MamaPeach
Have patience, as so many are trying to get this update that it is 
overworking the servers.


-Original Message- 
From: Mária Orovčíková

Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my iPhone 
4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give me a heads 
up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was based on a beta 
version and not the final production version but as I say, it won't matter 
to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.  Yea I'm up to 97 percent 
downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.

---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act now! 
Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know everything.


Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances played 
on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly on 
my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!


- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to the 
home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice over to 
read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about closing apps 
periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I have say, 50 
apps open all at once, or something.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com 
wrote:



Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 series, 
but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running too many apps 
at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on 4 due to processor 
and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other iDevices running 7 have 
dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus 
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7 would 
be in order).

Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently upgraded 
to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this year, too.



Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be even 
worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how unresponsive it is 
on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read 
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering holding 
off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who ran 
prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people who do the 
upgrade on a 4 is today?


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problems with key board and other print with IOS 7.

2013-09-18 Thread Marianne Denning
I have a friend who uses the contrast and larger print features on the
Idevices.  He is having a lot of problems because seeing the keyboard
and contrast of print is very poor.  Is anyone else having a similar
problem.  I only use VO.

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day

it's on it's way now yaye yyaye it's %7


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On 18/09/2013 21:35, MamaPeach wrote:

Have patience, as so many are trying to get this update that it is
overworking the servers.

-Original Message- From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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RE: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Sieghard Weitzel
Hi Jonathan,

 

I honestly can't say that it is sluggish on my 4S apart from boot up time
being about 10 seconds or so more and apps take just a half second or so
longer to open, but typing, swiping and other navigating I find is just as
good on my 4S as it was with iOS 6. I have been running iOS 7 Beta for about
a month and Gold Master (same as the public release) since last week so it's
not just a few hours of playing around with it, either.

 

Rob from the Today in iOS Podcast claims that running iOS 7 Beta on his old
iPhone 4 almost since the start was a good experience. Maybe if somebody
experiences sluggishness a factory restore might help.

 

Regards,

Sieghard

 

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:47 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be even
worse on a 4. I've seen mainstream reviews saying how unresponsive it is on
the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.

Jonathan Mosen

Mosen Consulting

Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training

http://Mosen.org

 

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:





I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read about
sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering holding off
upgrading. I was wondering what people's experiences who ran prerelease
versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people who do the upgrade on a
4 is today?

 

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Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread DJ Reese
Guess we will get a more definite opinion as soon as one of us who has the 
4s decide to test this out for themselves.

DJ Reese

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Ar not true read on another list that the sluggishness was based on a
beta version.

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

Hi i can't even check for updates it's sitting there just saying.

On 18/09/2013 21:42, hannah day wrote:

it's on it's way now yaye yyaye it's %7


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On 18/09/2013 21:35, MamaPeach wrote:

Have patience, as so many are trying to get this update that it is
overworking the servers.

-Original Message- From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New Iphone5S

2013-09-18 Thread Trea Abma

no problems so far on my 4S, just waiting for hq voices to download.

-Original Message- 
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Subject: Re: Questions About Upgrading To The New IOS/Getting The New 
Iphone5S


Guess we will get a more definite opinion as soon as one of us who has the
4s decide to test this out for themselves.

DJ Reese

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Ar not true read on another list that the sluggishness was based on a
beta version.

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H
Ok sorry all i spoke too soon it was my impatience now downloading will 
just leave it alone.


On 18/09/2013 21:47, Chris H wrote:

Hi i can't even check for updates it's sitting there just saying.

On 18/09/2013 21:42, hannah day wrote:

it's on it's way now yaye yyaye it's %7


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On 18/09/2013 21:35, MamaPeach wrote:

Have patience, as so many are trying to get this update that it is
overworking the servers.

-Original Message- From: Mária Orovčíková
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:38 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700
mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
http://Mosen.org

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I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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iOS 7: Braille feature enhancements and caviots

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi all,
For braille display users and braille fans: We have a number of 
feature enhancements for braille entry and output, including:
* You may need to pair with your wireless device again (at least 
this happened when I was trying to use my Apex, and iOS asked for 
the passcode).
* By default, English braille will be in UEB.  You can change 
this from VoiceOver's braille settings screen - there is a second 
screen which shows available braille tables (for English, these 
are Unified, US and UK).
* If you disable automatic braille translation, you wouldn't see 
what you're typing in braille on the braille display until you 
press spacebar key.
* A famous implementation (more towards a time-out) issue where 
VoiceOver would insert contractions while typing in the middle of 
a word has been fixed.  For example, if I type te, pause then 
type st sign (dots 3-4), before it would insert still; in iOS 
7, it types st.
* I can verify Scott's note that select all command doesn't work 
anymore.

Thanks.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Re: [macvoiceover] Re: A walkthrough of new features in IOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Hi,

they are no longer there.  They have been removed.  I know, I liked them too. 
haha.

Ricardo Walker
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 Does anyone know how I can access the twitter and Facebook buttons that where 
 in notice center before? Can't seam to find them.
 
 Med vänliga hälsningar / best regards 
 Fatmir seremeti 
 +46705103634
 www.goalballfatmir.blogg.se 
 Twitter: @goalballfatmir
 
 
 18 sep 2013 kl. 19:10 skrev Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com:
 
 Hi folks,
 
 I did a walkthrough of some of the new features and improvements in IOS 7.
 
 You can listen at
 http://www.appletothecore.info/2013/09/an-ios-7-walkthrough.html
 
 hth
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Ricardo Walker
Really?

I haven’t noticed this distinction made much.  For example, If someone says, I 
have a hand written note, I don’t think it’s implied that the note is written 
in cursive or, printed.  It just mean the note is written using the person 
hand, and some sort of manual writing implement.  haha.

I know, it really doesn’t matter.  Just saying.  Plus, I could easily be 
mistaken. :)  

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On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:12 PM, Arianna englishride...@gmail.com wrote:

 I know a little, though technically it's not handwriting, it's printing. 
 Usually when people say that something is hand written, they mean cursive, or 
 at least, that's what I've noticed. I'll be interested to try out this 
 feature and see how it works with my horrible printing. :)
 
 
 Thanks,
 Ari
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 9:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can manage handwriting. I am 
 blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com:
 
 I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and 
 it'd be nice if you can print.
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is 
 thinking and innovating for Voice Over  users!! Isn't that great?!? 
 
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Re: Can Anyone suggest a tutorial for Navigon

2013-09-18 Thread Ann Byrne

http://www.applevis.com/apps/ios/navigation/navigon-north-america
At 12:01 PM 9/18/2013, you wrote:

The subject says it all.  So, if anyone has a sugestion, pleas let me know.

Donna
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Fred Olver

Sounds like the update is not compatible with IOS 7.

Fred Olver



Author of Dealing with Vision Loss



have a look it just makes sense.

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com






- Original Message - 
From: hannah day hannahday2...@googlemail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:45 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Hi I@m having a simular issue but mine is the oposite  mine says %1 then
after a while it kicks me off it says it's failed to download


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On 18/09/2013 20:38, Mária Orovčíková wrote:

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update
is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on
the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format formerly
on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com
Date sent: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
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On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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RE: Handwriting in iOS7

2013-09-18 Thread Ed Pinkman
Hi Mary,

I ordered the Old Hat teaching book on IOS from this site that you  had in
your email below.  Have you ever ordered anything from them?  I hope I
didn't get ripped off. 

Let me know what else you know about this site.

 

Thanks in advance

Ed.

P.S. I ordered the teaching book as I am brand new to IOS.

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Marcy Weinberg
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:22 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Handwriting in iOS7

 

Hello, everybody,

 

Beginning today, and  for the next 10 days, Monday through Friday, Fedora
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or what changes have been implemented in particular areas such as mail.

 

The first blog is about the feature most of us have been anticipating,
handwriting. You will find the blog at the following link:

 

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Re: Before getting the 5s...

2013-09-18 Thread Fred Olver
In a previous message I wrote:

Back up everything to I-Tunes and to the cloud if possible. Doing both will 
ensure that your information will be in one or the other or both places. Check 
with ATT, but they ought to be able to help you with the upgrade and 
transfer of files from your old to your new phone, however I did run in to a 
problem when I attempted to upgrade from a 4 to a 5 when utilizing the 
services of a Verizon employee. For further assistance, contact apple 
accessability at 877 204-3930.

Fred Olver 

 

Author of Dealing with Vision Loss  

 

have a look it just makes sense. 

http://www.dealingwithvisionloss.com

 

 


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  To: viphone@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:25 PM
  Subject: Before getting the 5s...


  Okay, I will be moving from the iPhone 4 to the 5s.
  I have only had the iPhone 4.
  I will, of course, backup my 4, but am wondering what else I might need to 
know.
  They should be able to move my contacts from the 4 to the 5s, I know.
  I am planning to go to the ATT store.
  I am thinking about iTunes.
  Will it transfer all my content to the new iPhone automatically?
  I am thinking about going on Friday.  I can’t believe I am even thinking 
about doing that, but...
  Crystal 

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Re: Touch Id's possible weaknesses

2013-09-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

I can't wait to try this feature. I doubt it will be more hackable than using a 
password, and it's tiring entering a password every time I want to use my 
iPhone.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,
 
 But if you found it not to be reliable, wouldn’t you just turn it off?  You 
 would have lost nothing by trying it for your self.
 
 JMO.
 
 Ricardo Walker
 rica...@appletothecore.info
 Twitter:@apple2thecore
 www.appletothecore.info
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:48 PM, Mike Arrigo n0...@charter.net wrote:
 
 If I had the iphone 5s, I would probably not use this feature, it's still 
 very new and I would be concerned about how reliable it was.
 Original message:
 Hi all,
 
 Here's an interesting article I just bumped into in regards to the new
 IOS7's Touch ID. The article concerns what touch id can and cannot deliver.
 See below for link to article URL:
 
 Can Touch ID be hacked?
 Yes, fingerprint sensors have been around for at least two decades and have
 been hacked before. So, while Touch ID hasn't been hacked yet, that probably
 owes more to the device not being publicly available yet than anything else.
 As the iPhone 5S proliferates, expect creative and disturbing methods of
 hacking the fingerprint sensor to arise. Hopefully, would-be thieves won't
 start carrying cigar cutters around.
 
 Does Touch ID use two-factor authentication?
 No. Touch ID is not considered two-factor authentication because there is
 no second authorization technique that's required to use it. It's possible
 that Apple could expand the feature in the future to include stronger
 security, but one of the appeals of Touch ID, like the Windows 8 picture
 login, is that it requires the security input only once.
 
 There are still many questions that remain about Touch ID's implementation,
 including how people will use it and how developers will incorporate it. A
 big unknown for Apple's bottom line is whether businesses will consider this
 safer for the bring your own device movement, and demand that their
 employees have it. And it's not going to eliminate passwords -- at least,
 not on its own.
 
 Apple is not the first major smartphone maker to incorporate a biometric
 sensor into a device. Motorola did it with the Atrix but it bombed.
 
 What we know about Apple's Touch ID (FAQ) | Apple - CNET News
 http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57602318-37/what-we-know-about-apples-touch-id-faq/
 
 Joseph
 
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RE: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Kimmie
Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get io7? Now
sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when I go into my
update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely it hasn't just
updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.  Please help.
Thanks. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something like
verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update is not
available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my 
 iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give 
 me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was 
 based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I 
 say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
 Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
 now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format 
 formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for 
 listening!

 - Original Message - From: Arianna 
 englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


 Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to 
 the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice 
 over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about 
 closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I 
 have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
 series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running 
 too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other 
 iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus 
 issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7 
 would be in order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent: 
 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
 upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
 year, too.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be 
 even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
 unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read 
 about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering 
 holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who 
 ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people 
 who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Margaret
I can do both cursive writing and print. I can't wait until seven comes out. I 
want to try the hand writing.

Margaret 


Sent from my iPhone

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wrote:

 Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am 
 blind from birth, I have not learned handwriting.
 
 Best regards Annie.
 Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com:
 
 I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and 
 it'd be nice if you can print.
 
 Jenifer Barr
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking 
 and innovating for Voice Over  users!! Isn't that great?!? 
 
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
Go to Settings - General - Software Updates. If it says there are no 
software updates, double tap on the Software Updates button to get your 
iPhone to go ahead and check. If it still says no updates then wait a 
bit and try again.soft


On 09/18/2013 04:51 PM, Kimmie wrote:

Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get io7? Now
sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when I go into my
update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely it hasn't just
updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.  Please help.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something like
verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update is not
available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna
englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

7 is out now or should be in your part of the world.

On 18/09/2013 22:53, Margaret wrote:

I can do both cursive writing and print. I can't wait until seven comes out. I 
want to try the hand writing.

Margaret


Sent from my iPhone

On 19/09/2013, at 2:58 AM, Annie Skov Nielsen annieskovniel...@gmail.com 
wrote:


Hmm out of curiosity how many blind people can mannage handwriting. I am blind 
from birth, I have not learned handwriting.

Best regards Annie.
Den Sep 18, 2013 kl. 6:42 PM skrev Jenifer Barr claudas...@gmail.com:


I wonder if it accepts print or cursive? I for one do not know cursive and it'd 
be nice if you can print.

Jenifer Barr
Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:26 PM, AppleGourmet sen...@gmail.com wrote:


What's even more important about the handwriting, is that Apple is thinking and 
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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

It's probably not available in your part of the world at the moment.

On 18/09/2013 22:51, Kimmie wrote:

Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get io7? Now
sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when I go into my
update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely it hasn't just
updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.  Please help.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something like
verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that update is not
available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  format
formerly on my website are still available upon request.  Thanks for
listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna
englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going to
the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for voice
over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic about
closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue where I
have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably focus
issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs in 7
would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've read
about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences who
ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of people
who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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Re: Handwriting in iOS7

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H
Hi i ordered it and haven't got a thing good job i used money from my 
paypal account and it was only $4.


On 18/09/2013 22:41, Ed Pinkman wrote:

Hi Mary,

I ordered the Old Hat teaching book on IOS from this site that you  had in
your email below.  Have you ever ordered anything from them?  I hope I
didn't get ripped off.

Let me know what else you know about this site.



Thanks in advance

Ed.

P.S. I ordered the teaching book as I am brand new to IOS.



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Subject: Handwriting in iOS7



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Re: Handwriting in iOS7

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
C'mon now, these people have gone through quite a bit of trouble to build 
their name and reputation. IOS7 was just released, and I know they stated 
their book would be released on the day of, but the day isn't over, so let's 
not start speculating about getting ripped off.

Joseph

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From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Handwriting in iOS7


Hi i ordered it and haven't got a thing good job i used money from my
paypal account and it was only $4.

On 18/09/2013 22:41, Ed Pinkman wrote:
 Hi Mary,

 I ordered the Old Hat teaching book on IOS from this site that you  had in
 your email below.  Have you ever ordered anything from them?  I hope I
 didn't get ripped off.

 Let me know what else you know about this site.



 Thanks in advance

 Ed.

 P.S. I ordered the teaching book as I am brand new to IOS.



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 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:22 PM
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 Subject: Handwriting in iOS7



 Hello, everybody,



 Beginning today, and  for the next 10 days, Monday through Friday, Fedora
 Outlier will be posting blogs, each concentrating on a new feature in 
 IOS7,
 or what changes have been implemented in particular areas such as mail.



 The first blog is about the feature most of us have been anticipating,
 handwriting. You will find the blog at the following link:



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RE: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Kimmie
Well my little sister has hers set up and she has an iphone 4S 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:05 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

It's probably not available in your part of the world at the moment.

On 18/09/2013 22:51, Kimmie wrote:
 Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get 
 io7? Now sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when 
 I go into my update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely 
 it hasn't just updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.
Please help.
 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
 Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Hi list,
 I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
 I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
 When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something 
 like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that 
 update is not available at the moment.
 Is there anything I could do about it?
 Thank you for your help in advance.
 With kind regards
 Maria

 On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my 
 iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give 
 me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was 
 based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I 
 say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
 Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
 now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  
 Thanks for listening!

 - Original Message - From: Arianna
 englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


 Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going 
 to the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for 
 voice over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic 
 about closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue 
 where I have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
 series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running 
 too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other 
 iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably 
 focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs 
 in 7 would be in order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
 upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
 year, too.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be 
 even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
 unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've 
 read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering 
 holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences 
 who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of 
 people who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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RE: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Kimmie
Thank you. that helps a lot, and I'm quite excited about what's going to be
available. 

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Christopher Chaltain
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:02 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Go to Settings - General - Software Updates. If it says there are no
software updates, double tap on the Software Updates button to get your
iPhone to go ahead and check. If it still says no updates then wait a bit
and try again.soft

On 09/18/2013 04:51 PM, Kimmie wrote:
 Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get 
 io7? Now sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when 
 I go into my update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely 
 it hasn't just updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.
Please help.
 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
 Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Hi list,
 I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
 I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
 When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something 
 like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that 
 update is not available at the moment.
 Is there anything I could do about it?
 Thank you for your help in advance.
 With kind regards
 Maria

 On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my 
 iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give 
 me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was 
 based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I 
 say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
 Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
 ---

 Regards,

 Alan

 Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

 Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act 
 now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know 
 everything.

 Please click on:
 http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
 There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances 
 played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics  
 format formerly on my website are still available upon request.  
 Thanks for listening!

 - Original Message - From: Arianna
 englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


 Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going 
 to the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for 
 voice over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic 
 about closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue 
 where I have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
 series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running 
 too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other 
 iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably 
 focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs 
 in 7 would be in order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
 upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
 year, too.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be 
 even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
 unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
 Jonathan Mosen
 Mosen Consulting
 Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've 
 read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering 
 holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences 
 who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of 
 people who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi all,
I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only works 
with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. Secondly it has 
great difficulty discerning between things like the I and the letter L. And 
thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in order to delete 
letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I don't see any use for it 
at all.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day

oh riht kimmy is your sisters behaving with it?


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On 18/09/2013 23:12, Kimmie wrote:

Well my little sister has hers set up and she has an iphone 4S

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Chris H
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:05 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

It's probably not available in your part of the world at the moment.

On 18/09/2013 22:51, Kimmie wrote:

Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get
io7? Now sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when
I go into my update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely
it hasn't just updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.

Please help.

Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Hi list,
I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something
like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that
update is not available at the moment.
Is there anything I could do about it?
Thank you for your help in advance.
With kind regards
Maria

On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:

I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my
iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give
me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was
based on a beta version and not the final production version but as I
say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
---

Regards,

Alan

Go Chicago Bears in 2013!

Teenagers; Tired of being harassed by your stupid parents?  Act
now! Move out.  Get a job.  Pay your bills wile you still know
everything.

Please click on:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~alanandsuzanne/
There, you'll find free files of my arrangements and performances
played on the Yamaha Tyros 1 keyboard.  The albums in Technics
format formerly on my website are still available upon request.
Thanks for listening!

- Original Message - From: Arianna
englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going
to the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for
voice over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic
about closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue
where I have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
wrote:


Hi,
I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6
series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running
too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected on
4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other
iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably
focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs
in 7 would be in order).
Cheers,
Joseph - Original Message -
From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently
upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this
year, too.


Thanks,
Ari

On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be
even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how
unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org

On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've
read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am considering
holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's experiences
who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what experiences of
people who do the upgrade on a 4 is today?

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IOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
Hi all,

I'm writing this in IOS 7.  I have an iPhone 4.  I don't notice any lag or slow 
down at all.

HTH!



Alan

Sent from my iPhone 4.

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Re: Handwriting in iOS7

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

True and sorry for the criticism.

On 18/09/2013 23:11, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

C'mon now, these people have gone through quite a bit of trouble to build
their name and reputation. IOS7 was just released, and I know they stated
their book would be released on the day of, but the day isn't over, so let's
not start speculating about getting ripped off.

Joseph

- Original Message -
From: Chris H christopher...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: Handwriting in iOS7


Hi i ordered it and haven't got a thing good job i used money from my
paypal account and it was only $4.

On 18/09/2013 22:41, Ed Pinkman wrote:

Hi Mary,

I ordered the Old Hat teaching book on IOS from this site that you  had in
your email below.  Have you ever ordered anything from them?  I hope I
didn't get ripped off.

Let me know what else you know about this site.



Thanks in advance

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P.S. I ordered the teaching book as I am brand new to IOS.



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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Arianna
According to an article posted earlier on this list, You're able to switch 
between writing modes by doing either a three-finger flick up/down. That should 
toggle between uppercase, lower case, numbers, and I think there's another 
mode, but I can't remember what that might be at the moment. I think that there 
is also a gesture to delete characters or words, but I'm not sure about that.


Thanks,
Ari

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 Hi all,
 I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only works 
 with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. Secondly it 
 has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and the letter L. 
 And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in order to delete 
 letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I don't see any use for 
 it at all.
 
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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread John Panarese
   You can write in capitals and use punctuation.  A two finger swipe up will 
let you change the input.  Two finger swipe right inserts a space and back will 
delete the character.


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On Sep 18, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only works 
 with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. Secondly it 
 has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and the letter L. 
 And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in order to delete 
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 it at all.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Calculator in IOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Hi all, 
Many will be happy to learn that the calculator in IOS 7 has a percent key. 
Also, you no longer have to double tap the function keys when using touch 
typing. 



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new Kindle update

2013-09-18 Thread Mary Otten
There is a Kindle update out today that offers some new features, including the 
ability to put books in to categories. It is ios 7 compatible. Has anybody 
tried the update? And have they broken anything with the accessibility? I know 
all the excitement is around the new os. But I've decided to wait for a few 
days until things quiet down before I go there. I am, however, really 
interested in this new Kindle update and was curious if anybody had tried it 
yet.

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update not available

2013-09-18 Thread Rebecca Ilniski
Hi all. I'm trying to download IOS 7.0 and downloaded it. When I hit install, 
it walks me through the license things and all. Then it says verifying update. 
After a minute or so it says the update is not available. Please try again 
later. 


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IOS 7 Question

2013-09-18 Thread CD
Is there anyway to stop the high pitched voice when typing with a keyboard?
I mean can we make it have the normal voice when a letter is typed?  Hope
this makes sense.  Thanks!

 

Carla

 

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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
I tried it as well.  I had difficulty getting it to recognize the letter R, 
and f.  Of course all it means is I need to play with it more.  As I said, I 
did not notice any lag or slow-down wile using my iPhone.


All the tones I made with Todd Burnhart's ring tone maker as well as all the 
default ring tones from my iPhone4 were retained plus a bunch of new tones 
were added.  Just trying them out and not really playing with them more then 
just to sample them rather then to let them play out, they sounded 
futuristic.  No new sound effect tones like perhaps Big Ben or a NASA 
launch.  On the face of it, I like it.  I was hoping for some new voice over 
voices.  Oh well, it won't be fore long.  I just want to learn my way around 
before I get my 5s.

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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7


Hi all,
I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only 
works with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. 
Secondly it has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and 
the letter L. And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in 
order to delete letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I don't 
see any use for it at all.


Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

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Re: update not available

2013-09-18 Thread Troy Sullivan
I haven't tried it yet but I bet it's because the server is overloaded 
because everyone and their brother is getting it.
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To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 6:16 PM
Subject: update not available


Hi all. I'm trying to download IOS 7.0 and downloaded it. When I hit 
install, it walks me through the license things and all. Then it says 
verifying update. After a minute or so it says the update is not 
available. Please try again later.



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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Alan Paganelli
You can flick 2 fingers right to delete according to your rotor settings for 
example, if you switch the rotor setting from characters to words, then when 
you flick left with 2 fingers you then delete a word at a time.


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From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7


According to an article posted earlier on this list, You're able to switch 
between writing modes by doing either a three-finger flick up/down. That 
should toggle between uppercase, lower case, numbers, and I think there's 
another mode, but I can't remember what that might be at the moment. I think 
that there is also a gesture to delete characters or words, but I'm not sure 
about that.



Thanks,
Ari

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Hi all,
I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only 
works with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. 
Secondly it has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and 
the letter L. And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else 
in order to delete letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I 
don't see any use for it at all.


Chuck (mobile)
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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Okay, I have gone back and try this again. A three finger swipe up will give 
you the choice of lowercase letters, uppercase letters, punctuation, and 
numbers.

A two fingers swiped right will give you a space, and a two finger swipe left 
is like the backspace key.
I still think it is pretty slow, I think I'll stick with Fleksy.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 3:33 PM, John Panarese jpanar...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   You can write in capitals and use punctuation.  A two finger swipe up will 
 let you change the input.  Two finger swipe right inserts a space and back 
 will delete the character.
 
 
 Take Care
 
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 Director
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 Tel, (631) 724-4479
 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
 Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
 
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 On Sep 18, 2013, at 6:21 PM, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only 
 works with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. 
 Secondly it has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and 
 the letter L. And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in 
 order to delete letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I don't 
 see any use for it at all.
 
 Chuck (mobile)
 Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.
 
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Re: update not available

2013-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
 Hi Rebecca,
Same thing happened to me. Just keep trying it it'll eventually install. 
Fortunately, the download is already finished.

Chuck (mobile)
Pleez x cuze enny tie ping or spelin air ores.

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 3:16 PM, Rebecca Ilniski rilni...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all. I'm trying to download IOS 7.0 and downloaded it. When I hit install, 
 it walks me through the license things and all. Then it says verifying 
 update. After a minute or so it says the update is not available. Please try 
 again later. 
 
 
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Re: update not available

2013-09-18 Thread hannah day

Hi i had that for a while it's because the servers are busy


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On 18/09/2013 23:16, Rebecca Ilniski wrote:

Hi all. I'm trying to download IOS 7.0 and downloaded it. When I hit install, 
it walks me through the license things and all. Then it says verifying update. 
After a minute or so it says the update is not available. Please try again 
later.


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Re: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
As a general Note, there have been a couple of great posts regarding 
instructional material for the proper use of these features, so let's please 
have an open mind until you read authoritative information on proper use. 
For example, I believe one can delete a letter by using a 2-finger swipe to 
the left. A large percentage of the posts you will read for today and in the 
next few days will be from those who are for the most part playing around 
with the features and not from individuals who have sat down and read a user 
manual and such. This will probably be the case for the next few days if not 
weeks. ...Just trying to be fair to IOS7.

Joseph

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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:21 PM
Subject: I have tried the hand writing feature on iOS 7


Hi all,
I've tried the handwriting feature. It's no big deal. First off it only 
works with printed, lowercase letters. It does not work with cursive. 
Secondly it has great difficulty discerning between things like the I and 
the letter L. And thirdly you have to use the rotor to go someplace else in 
order to delete letters. Personally I was looking forward to it but I don't 
see any use for it at all.

Chuck (mobile)
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updating to ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi,
I went to general, software updates and it said my software is up to date, is 
it because the servers are really busy of why it's not giving me the option for 
an update?

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Re: update not available

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

Hi i have this too going to install it another time.

On 18/09/2013 23:52, hannah day wrote:

Hi i had that for a while it's because the servers are busy


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On 18/09/2013 23:16, Rebecca Ilniski wrote:

Hi all. I'm trying to download IOS 7.0 and downloaded it. When I hit
install, it walks me through the license things and all. Then it says
verifying update. After a minute or so it says the update is not
available. Please try again later.


Rebecca and Zeb
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facebook: www.facebook.com/rebeccai5
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Re: IOS 7 Question

2013-09-18 Thread Chris H

Go to settings, general, accessibility, VoiceOver, use pitch change.

On 18/09/2013 22:37, CD wrote:

Is there anyway to stop the high pitched voice when typing with a keyboard?
I mean can we make it have the normal voice when a letter is typed?  Hope
this makes sense.  Thanks!



Carla





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iTouch 4Gen, no i OS7

2013-09-18 Thread Traci Duncan
Wow, what a disappointment!  How did I miss over the last few Months that i OS7 
isn't coming to the 4th Gen Touch.  I'm bummed!  I was looking forward to 
iRadio on that device.

I wonder why iPhone4 got it but not iTouch4?

:( Traci

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Re: Handwriting is here in IOS7!

2013-09-18 Thread Troy Sullivan
I can only write my name so unfortunetly this feature may not be any use to 
me.:(
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:19 PM
Subject: Handwriting is here in IOS7!


Awesome! This sounds just awesome! I'm really looking forward to getting 
my hands on seven!! It's 9:15 AM. When will seven be available for 
download? I thought it would of the early morning today. (Voice Converted 
to Text via iPhone;Excuse typos)


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app store issue

2013-09-18 Thread Troy Sullivan
Hi again,
This relates to my previous post about not being able to update to ios7, the ap 
store says I have some new items but yet when I go into updates it says all my 
apps are up to date. I know for a fact I have updates because I did not update 
Iheart radio do to the accessibility issue.
Anyone know what's going on?

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Re: updating to ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Stacy Fuehrer
Rebecca, I didn't have the notification in software updates till around 5 this 
afternoon. Keep checking for it. 
Stacy 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: ear pieces.

2013-09-18 Thread Raul A. Gallegos
Hi, I'm not sure how you got that I was disappointed in the M50 and 
HM1700. I was merely pointing out their good and bad points. In fact I 
use the HM1700 daily and have considered purchasing a second one because 
of how much I use it. So, no, not disappointed at all.


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On 9/17/2013 2:23 PM, Sandra Heaton wrote:

Hi,

thanks a lot but having gone to the link which you suggested and reading
what you had to say about it I think I will pass on those but thank you
anyway.

Its always  good to hear what others think.  You sound a little
disappointed with yours.  I just can't seem to find one that I am really
comfortable with.  I only have very small ears and most of these pieces
don't fit me very well and plus!  I don't like things that go inside my
ears.

Thank you though for taking the time.

cheers.


Sandra
Braille Greeting Cards
www.braille-greetings-cards.co.uk

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Subject: Re: ear pieces.



Hi Sandra and anyone else interested in this topic, the plantronics
M50 and the Samsung HM1700 are both good and both of which I've talked
about on this list, I've provided the link to the message below.

http://www.mail-archive.com/viphone@googlegroups.com/msg47380.html

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On 9/16/2013 12:52 PM, Sandra Heaton wrote:

Hi all,
Does anyone know of a single ear piece that is suitable for an iphone
4S  all I want it for is to receive calls and text messages.  Is it
possible also to get a wireless one so I don't have wires dangling
everywhere.  Plus one that just loops over the ear.
If anyone has any recommendations I would be grateful to hear them.
cheers   and thank you.
Sandra
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No worries about automatic updates on apps.

2013-09-18 Thread Chuck Dean
Hello all, on my App Store icon it said I had three updates. When I double tap 
to update, it asked me if I wanted to turn on automatic update. or Not now. I 
selected not now.

I went to settings to make sure that it was turned off, and it was. Nice and 
eaasy!

Chuck (mobile)
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unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Jed Barton
Hey guys,
Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

Thanks,
Jed

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RE: updating to ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Kimmie
Hi there.  When I go to check my updates it tells me there's an error in
checking it, so do I just keep trying?

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Stacy Fuehrer
Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:32 a.m.
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: updating to ios7

 

Rebecca, I didn't have the notification in software updates till around 5
this afternoon. Keep checking for it. 

Stacy 

Sent from my iPhone


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Hi,

I went to general, software updates and it said my software is up to date,
is it because the servers are really busy of why it's not giving me the
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RE: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

2013-09-18 Thread Kimmie
So far so good Hannah.

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Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

oh riht kimmy is your sisters behaving with it?


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On 18/09/2013 23:12, Kimmie wrote:
 Well my little sister has hers set up and she has an iphone 4S

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Chris H
 Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 10:05 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 It's probably not available in your part of the world at the moment.

 On 18/09/2013 22:51, Kimmie wrote:
 Hi there I have an iphone 5 and I want to know how to set up or get 
 io7? Now sorry but I haven't been paying attention as usual, but when 
 I go into my update on my iphone, it tells me I'm up to date.  Surely 
 it hasn't just updated it for me has it? Here's hoping.  No seriously.
 Please help.
 Thanks.

 -Original Message-
 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
 Behalf Of Mária Orovcíková
 Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 7:39 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Hi list,
 I am having a problem installing IOS 7 on my Iphone 4.
 I have IOS downloaded on my iphone and in settings it says one new item.
 When I click on instal and accept the terms of use, it says something 
 like verifying and after a minute or two I get error saying that 
 update is not available at the moment.
 Is there anything I could do about it?
 Thank you for your help in advance.
 With kind regards
 Maria

 On 18.9.2013 21:33, Alan Paganelli wrote:
 I'm at 96 percent of the ios 7 download and I'm installing it on my 
 iPhone 4.  Sense I plan on getting the 5s asap, it will kind of give 
 me a heads up. That thing about it running slow on the iPhone 4 was 
 based on a beta version and not the final production version but as 
 I say, it won't matter to me as I'm going from the 4 to the 5s anyway.
 Yea I'm up to 97 percent downloaded. The download size is almost 700 mb.
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 - Original Message - From: Arianna
 englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 12:21 PM
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4


 Oh, good. iOS 6 runs pretty okay on my 4S here, although when going 
 to the home screen from an app, it often takes a few seconds for 
 voice over to read an icon that I touch. I'm a bit hyper fanatic 
 about closing apps periodically, so I don't think I'll have an issue 
 where I have say, 50 apps open all at once, or something.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 12:14 PM, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hi,
 I find that it's working fine on my 4S (slightly slower than 6 
 series, but it still works and responsive; perhaps I'm not running 
 too many apps at this time).  Performance degradation is expected 
 on
 4 due to processor and graphics chips in use (apart from 4, other 
 iDevices running 7 have dual core processors and enhanced graphics).
 In iOS 7, Apple finally fixed a number of iOS 6 issues, notably 
 focus issue in Mail app (I think a separate thread on list of bugs 
 in 7 would be in order).
 Cheers,
 Joseph - Original Message -
 From: Arianna englishride...@gmail.com
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com viphone@googlegroups.com Date sent:
 Wed, 18 Sep 2013 11:23:00 -0700
 Subject: Re: iOS 7 on iPhone 4

 Crap.  I have a for us.  And the worst of it is, I just recently 
 upgraded to it from a 4.  This was around February or so of this 
 year, too.


 Thanks,
 Ari

 On Sep 18, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Jonathan Mosen jmo...@mosen.org wrote:

 It's noticeably sluggish on a 4S, so I can only imagine it would be 
 even worse on a 4.  I've seen mainstream reviews saying how 
 unresponsive it is on the 4, and that's without VO in the mix.
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 On 19/09/2013, at 5:40 AM, Jared jared.stoff...@gmail.com wrote:

 I currently have an iPhone 4 but plan on upgrading shortly. I've 
 read about sluggishness with iOS 7 on the iPhone 4 so am 
 considering holding off upgrading.  I was wondering what people's 
 experiences who ran prerelease versions on a 4 were, or what 
 

Re: unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Mich
Hi Jed yes you can un lock it by entering a passcoad it is another methid of 
sequering your phone. hth. from Mich who just updated to ios 7.
- Original Message - 
From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com

To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: unlocking in ios7



Hey guys,
Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: updating to ios7

2013-09-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I had the same error for about half an hour. Just keep trying. Their
servers are really slow. I am doing my second phone through ITunes and
it's taking a huge amount of time. It says 48 more hours to download
but I'm sure that will speed up. This is with a 15mb download account.

On 9/18/13, Kimmie pegasu...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
 Hi there.  When I go to check my updates it tells me there's an error in
 checking it, so do I just keep trying?



 From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
 Of Stacy Fuehrer
 Sent: Thursday, 19 September 2013 11:32 a.m.
 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Subject: Re: updating to ios7



 Rebecca, I didn't have the notification in software updates till around 5
 this afternoon. Keep checking for it.

 Stacy

 Sent from my iPhone


 On Sep 18, 2013, at 5:58 PM, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com
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 Hi,

 I went to general, software updates and it said my software is up to date,
 is it because the servers are really busy of why it's not giving me the
 option for an update?

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strange iphone behaviour

2013-09-18 Thread Joanne Chua
hi all,

I have been having a lot of iMessage issue in the pass few days. I have 3 
different devices that sharing the same itunes and wifi account.
Two out of the three (Ipad mini, and iphone5) does not able to send and always 
stuck on 90%.
It seems to otherwise work on my iphone4.
I've try rebooting the phone resetting the iMessage account etc.
Anyone know what else i can do, or having similar issue?

Your help is vry much appreciated

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Re: unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
Actually the pass code always existed. You need to tap right on the
button instead of anywhere like before. It's not a big deal once you
get used to it.

On 9/18/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 Hi Jed yes you can un lock it by entering a passcoad it is another methid of

 sequering your phone. hth. from Mich who just updated to ios 7.
 - Original Message -
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:46 PM
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 Hey guys,
 Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
 I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

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Re: No worries about automatic updates on apps.

2013-09-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
The articles I've read stated that it would be turned  on by default
but rather mine was turned off.

On 9/18/13, Chuck Dean chuckd...@icloud.com wrote:
 Hello all, on my App Store icon it said I had three updates. When I double
 tap to update, it asked me if I wanted to turn on automatic update. or Not
 now. I selected not now.

 I went to settings to make sure that it was turned off, and it was. Nice and
 eaasy!

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re: unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph Lee

Hi,
Similar to older version, except that you can now unlock by doing 
a three finger swipe right.

Cheers,
Joseph

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Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

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Re: unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Joseph FreeTech
I think the person referred to the 3-finger swipe to the right to unlock 
one's IOS7 device. Someone actually running IOS7 confirm this so I don't 
mislead others. Smile.

Joseph
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From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: unlocking in ios7


Actually the pass code always existed. You need to tap right on the
button instead of anywhere like before. It's not a big deal once you
get used to it.

On 9/18/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:
 Hi Jed yes you can un lock it by entering a passcoad it is another methid 
 of

 sequering your phone. hth. from Mich who just updated to ios 7.
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 To: viphone@googlegroups.com
 Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:46 PM
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 I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

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Re: app store issue

2013-09-18 Thread John Diakogeorgiou
I saw the same problem earlier today. I think it's just that the
servers are bogged down.

On 9/18/13, Troy Sullivan troysulliva...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi again,
 This relates to my previous post about not being able to update to ios7, the
 ap store says I have some new items but yet when I go into updates it says
 all my apps are up to date. I know for a fact I have updates because I did
 not update Iheart radio do to the accessibility issue.
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Re: question about auto updating applications in new I O S

2013-09-18 Thread Woody Anna Dresner
Hi,

In addition to changing it in Settings as others have mentioned, you are asked 
the first time you enter the app store and choose Updates whether you want to 
update automatically or not.

Best,
Anna



On Sep 18, 2013, at 1:27 PM, Brent Harbolt bharb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 Has anyone found out if you can turn the auto ap update feature off for the 
 new I O S?
 
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Re: unlocking in ios7

2013-09-18 Thread Christopher Chaltain
If you have a passcode set then a three finger swipe to the right will 
bring up the numeric keypad.


Just a thought, but if you're not sure about how something works or what 
the answer is to a question, you could just pass on it and let someone 
else weigh in.


On 09/18/2013 07:15 PM, Joseph FreeTech wrote:

I think the person referred to the 3-finger swipe to the right to unlock
one's IOS7 device. Someone actually running IOS7 confirm this so I don't
mislead others. Smile.

Joseph
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From: John Diakogeorgiou jdiakoge2...@gmail.com
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: unlocking in ios7


Actually the pass code always existed. You need to tap right on the
button instead of anywhere like before. It's not a big deal once you
get used to it.

On 9/18/13, Mich mi...@eastlink.ca wrote:

Hi Jed yes you can un lock it by entering a passcoad it is another methid
of

sequering your phone. hth. from Mich who just updated to ios 7.
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From: Jed Barton j...@jedbarton.com
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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 7:46 PM
Subject: unlocking in ios7



Hey guys,
Before I install th new IOS, do you unlock it differently?
I thought I heard there was another way to do it now.

Thanks,
Jed

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Re: Sadly no new VO voices

2013-09-18 Thread Sharonda Greenlaw
There is a male Siri voice.

On 9/18/13, Ioana Gandrabur igandra...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,

 J a comment about the iOS 7 review.
 I was so hoping the new siri voices would be available for vo but it appears
 dise're out of luck
 Well, at least we have better siri interface.

 One can always hope to get the new voices in future updates.

 Best,


 Ioana



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closing out apps in the switcher

2013-09-18 Thread Tess
Personally, I don't like the new way to close apps from the app switcher.

That is going to be a pain. I liked double tapping and holding on a app to
close it.

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siri questions for iOS 7

2013-09-18 Thread Chris Judd

Hello there,

I have installed iOS 7, and I was wondering, in siri, how do you ask for a 
business by city, or catagory?
Also, I am having trouble using dictation.  Every time I send a message, 
siri says capital G, and doesn't read back the message.

Is anyone else experiencing these problems?
Chris 


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Re: iOS 7: Braille feature enhancements and caviots

2013-09-18 Thread paras shah
hi what is the memoth code in braille  setting.
Can you read  all computer braille math in memoth?
Thanks

On 9/18/13, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all,
 For braille display users and braille fans: We have a number of
 feature enhancements for braille entry and output, including:
 * You may need to pair with your wireless device again (at least
 this happened when I was trying to use my Apex, and iOS asked for
 the passcode).
 * By default, English braille will be in UEB.  You can change
 this from VoiceOver's braille settings screen - there is a second
 screen which shows available braille tables (for English, these
 are Unified, US and UK).
 * If you disable automatic braille translation, you wouldn't see
 what you're typing in braille on the braille display until you
 press spacebar key.
 * A famous implementation (more towards a time-out) issue where
 VoiceOver would insert contractions while typing in the middle of
 a word has been fixed.  For example, if I type te, pause then
 type st sign (dots 3-4), before it would insert still; in iOS
 7, it types st.
 * I can verify Scott's note that select all command doesn't work
 anymore.
 Thanks.
 Cheers,
 Joseph

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