What is the different of VNC & others?

2002-06-11 Thread Ronald Wiplinger

I need to know the differences between different products:

VNC
PCanywhere
Citrix
RDP

in regards of LINUX / LINUX, Windows 2000 / Windows (CE, ME, ...), and 
mixed, like Linux / Windows or Windows / Linux

I also want to know if any of these products can use the local USB port, 
even if connected / working on the server.

bye

Ronald



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Re: KDE Set As Default WM

2002-06-11 Thread Jens Flucke

Hi Rich,
i don't know what you want to do. But normaly "kdm" is the default
Displaymanager shipped with KDE. Try it and i should work.

Regards Jens   













Am Die, 2002-06-11 um 15.01 schrieb RICH HARBAUGH /6148:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have 2 questions:
> 
> 1) Can someone please tell me how to set KDE as my default WM for all
> vncviewer sessions?  I assume that it has to do with the .vnc/xstartup
> script.  I tried modifying the script by replacing "twm" with "kde" and
> "kdewm" but of course those attempts failed.
> 
> 2) How do I set my vncserver to automatically start on bootup?
> 
> Any help or pointers with these, would be greatly appreciated!
> 
> Thanks,
> Rich :-)
> 
> Sr. Operations Engineer
> Omnicell
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RE: VNC for MS PocketPC 2002

2002-06-11 Thread Will Olson

Hello Paulus,

I was forwarded this link recently from a very helpful gentlemen in England.
Check out this...

http://www.cs.utah.edu/~midgley/wince/vnc.html

Good luck.

ps. I'm working on a similiar project with the HPC device.

William Olson, Princpal
Paragon Visual Solutions Inc.
810 East Indiana
Spokane, WA 99207
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Subject: VNC for MS PocketPC 2002


Hi

I want to use my PocketPC 2002 with the VNC to connect my MS Win2K
environment. Do you know the VNC can support it or not?

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Re: KDE Set As Default WM

2002-06-11 Thread David Colliver

Hi,

You could start by looking at my web site...

http://www.sourcecodecorner.com/articles/vnc/linux.asp

This has a setup that auto starts, and has KDE as the desktop (at least it
does on my system anyway...)

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 4:01 PM
Subject: KDE Set As Default WM


> Hello all,
>
> I have 2 questions:
>
> 1) Can someone please tell me how to set KDE as my default WM for all
> vncviewer sessions?  I assume that it has to do with the .vnc/xstartup
> script.  I tried modifying the script by replacing "twm" with "kde" and
> "kdewm" but of course those attempts failed.
>
> 2) How do I set my vncserver to automatically start on bootup?
>
> Any help or pointers with these, would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
> Rich :-)
>
> Sr. Operations Engineer
> Omnicell
> 1101 E. Meadow Drive
> Palo Alto, CA  94303
> p: 650.251.6148
> f: 650.251.6206
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KDE Set As Default WM

2002-06-11 Thread RICH HARBAUGH /6148

Hello all,

I have 2 questions:

1) Can someone please tell me how to set KDE as my default WM for all
vncviewer sessions?  I assume that it has to do with the .vnc/xstartup
script.  I tried modifying the script by replacing "twm" with "kde" and
"kdewm" but of course those attempts failed.

2) How do I set my vncserver to automatically start on bootup?

Any help or pointers with these, would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Rich :-)

Sr. Operations Engineer
Omnicell
1101 E. Meadow Drive
Palo Alto, CA  94303
p: 650.251.6148
f: 650.251.6206
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svnc tarball missing from Web site (third try)

2002-06-11 Thread Trevor Johnson

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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:53:24 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: svnc tarball missing from Web site (fwd)

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Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 15:15:20 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: svnc tarball missing from Web site

In
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/platforms.html
there is a hyperlink to
http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/contrib/svnc-0.1.tgz
but according to
http://people.freebsd.org/~fenner/portsurvey/net.html#svnc
the link has not worked since 20 May.
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RE: Solaris 9 OE & VNC :: Any Experience??

2002-06-11 Thread Jeremiah Campbell

Thanks Corni,
 That "-query localhost" option did get it working again. However
just for clarification, I deleted the "twm &" line from my xstartup
file and replaced it with "dtwm &" (with /usr/dt/bin & /usr/openwin/bin
in my PATH) and it worked for me for a short while. It also did so
without having to do  "dtlogin" to the CDE. Then it mysteriously quit
working.

  Also, on Solaris, you still have to "chmod 1777 /tmp/.X11-unix"
before trying to run a vncserver or it crashes immediately.

Jeremiah


--- "Beerse,_Corni" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeremiah Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > 
> > Did you get any response on this? I have been using a beta version
> of
> > Solaris 9, but I don't have vnc running on it yet (didn't have it
> > networked till yesterday). I may set that up in the near 
> > future though.
> > 
> > I don't see as it would be much different than Solaris 8 anyway.
> You
> > should be able to get away with using the pre-compiled version for
> > Solaris 8. Right now with Solaris 8 you need to make a change to
> the
> > /tmp/.X11-unix directory. Standard users need write access to it in
> > order to start a vncserver. The command is "chmod 1777 
> > /tmp/.X11-unix".
> > This sets the sticky bit as well, I don't remember why right now,
> but
> > that is needed for some sort of security reason.
> > 
> > The alternative to that is to make the vncserver script suid. I
> > personally don't recommend that though. Just my $.02 
> > 
> > The problem I am getting right now though is with the server not
> > wanting to connect to "unix:1.0". I haven't gotten any solid
> responses
> > on that one yet. All I get is a blank grey screen, instead of the
> dtwm
> > (CDE desktop) that I expect. It seems to remain a permissions
> problem,
> > as I can get everything working fine when I do it as root.
> 
> I think twm (the default configured window manager in
> ~/.vnc/xstartup) is
> not configured at your system.
> 
> Try the option '-query localhost', it will give you a login session
> insite
> vnc.
> 
> 
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RE: VNC connecting to wrong host

2002-06-11 Thread Frederiksen, Paul

Thanks, that seems to work, but now when I run VNC I get the black screen
with cursor. It moves for a second then stops and seems to hang. What could
that be!

Paul F Frederiksen
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Netconn Solutions
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 -Original Message-
From:   "Beerse, Corni" [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, June 11, 2002 3:44 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject:RE: VNC connecting to wrong host

> -Original Message-
> From: Frederiksen, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> I set up VNC server using the -inetd option, following the 
> directions on the site.
> 
> I have 2 unix servers sitting next to each other. Fred and 
> Wilma. VNC is installed on fred.
> 
> When I run the viewer on a windows machine and connect to fred, I get
> wilma's login screen! WEIRD! Vnc is not installed on Wilma. 
> What am I doing wrong? I think it is maybe the -broadcast option?
> 

If you use the -broadcast option, you did not follow the site... Try '-query
localhost' or '-query fred' or '-query wilma'.

The -broadcast, -query and -indirect options are for the xdmcp protocol.
This protocol says something like: 'Who would like to provide a loggin
session at this X display?'


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RE: Xvnc & xstartup

2002-06-11 Thread Mark . Reeder

On 11/06/2002 08:28:59 "Beerse, Corni" wrote:
>
> As for the XDMCP options: They are not required if you use inetd, it's just

To break the suspense,
 I can reveal that the butler slipped cyanide into the cucumber sandwiches

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Re: 3-D graphics are not available

2002-06-11 Thread Alan Hourihane

On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 11:19:54AM +0200, ZINTEL Gerhard wrote:
> > > Another program (wavebuild from Ricardo) gives the message
> > >   "3-D graphics are not available"
> > > and the canvas in which a 3-D graphics should appear remains blank.
> > > 
> > > Have you any idea where I can get more information?
> > 
> > You need to use Xvnc from http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net.
> > 
> > This server is based on XFree86 v4.x which has support for RENDER
> > and 3D.
> > 
> 
> Now it works fine using the Xvnc-i386-linux server instead of the original
> Xvnc server, many thanks. Nevertheless, do I really need the vnc.so file?
> The 3-D extension works without copying the vnc.so file into
> /usr/X11R6/lib/modules. I do not use the server with a local X installation,
> only with the Xvnc program. All other files in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules have
> the extension *.a (static libraries?) instead of *.so.

No. The vnc.so is for use with XFree86, not the Xvnc server.

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RE: view only java applet

2002-06-11 Thread David le Blanc

So you mean actions like 'Send Ctrl-Alt-Del' on Linux will still
reboot the system? Even from the 'view-only' console on :2 ?

Its really a 'read-write' session showing a read-only viewer.  If you
managed to pop any tools onto that screen, they would be read-write
for you :-)

D.


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Sent: Monday, 10 June 2002 3:57 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: view only java applet


:: Right now, I am depending on the cooperation of whomever I give the
:: "password" to for them to share and "view-only" my desktop.  Since
:: the view-only feature is really controlled from the client side. 

: I added -viewonly switch to Xvnc server (checked on RH Linux). 
: You can find my original e-mail at:
: http://www.tridiavnc.com/list-mailist/2000-07/0575.html 
: Please read it. 

Alternatively, set up two different rfb passwd files, and

Xvnc :1 -rfbauth key1 &
Xvnc :2 -rfbauth key2 &
env DISPLAY=:2 vncviewer :1 -fullscreen -viewonly -passwd key1 &
env DISPLAY=:1 twm &

   (  Decorate with additional options to taste,
  such as -depth, -geometry, etc  )

If you want other folks to be able to view only, you give them the
password for :2 only.  You keep the password for :1 to yourself. (And,
of course, make sure nobody but you can read the files key1 and key2.)

Very simple.  Very easy.


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AW: 3-D graphics are not available

2002-06-11 Thread ZINTEL Gerhard

> > Another program (wavebuild from Ricardo) gives the message
> >   "3-D graphics are not available"
> > and the canvas in which a 3-D graphics should appear remains blank.
> > 
> > Have you any idea where I can get more information?
> 
> You need to use Xvnc from http://xf4vnc.sourceforge.net.
> 
> This server is based on XFree86 v4.x which has support for RENDER
> and 3D.
> 

Now it works fine using the Xvnc-i386-linux server instead of the original
Xvnc server, many thanks. Nevertheless, do I really need the vnc.so file?
The 3-D extension works without copying the vnc.so file into
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules. I do not use the server with a local X installation,
only with the Xvnc program. All other files in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules have
the extension *.a (static libraries?) instead of *.so.

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VNC for MS PocketPC 2002

2002-06-11 Thread Paulus Law F.H.

Hi

I want to use my PocketPC 2002 with the VNC to connect my MS Win2K
environment. Do you know the VNC can support it or not? 

Paulus
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RE: Solaris 9 OE & VNC :: Any Experience??

2002-06-11 Thread "Beerse, Corné"

> -Original Message-
> From: Jeremiah Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Did you get any response on this? I have been using a beta version of
> Solaris 9, but I don't have vnc running on it yet (didn't have it
> networked till yesterday). I may set that up in the near 
> future though.
> 
> I don't see as it would be much different than Solaris 8 anyway. You
> should be able to get away with using the pre-compiled version for
> Solaris 8. Right now with Solaris 8 you need to make a change to the
> /tmp/.X11-unix directory. Standard users need write access to it in
> order to start a vncserver. The command is "chmod 1777 
> /tmp/.X11-unix".
> This sets the sticky bit as well, I don't remember why right now, but
> that is needed for some sort of security reason.
> 
> The alternative to that is to make the vncserver script suid. I
> personally don't recommend that though. Just my $.02 
> 
> The problem I am getting right now though is with the server not
> wanting to connect to "unix:1.0". I haven't gotten any solid responses
> on that one yet. All I get is a blank grey screen, instead of the dtwm
> (CDE desktop) that I expect. It seems to remain a permissions problem,
> as I can get everything working fine when I do it as root.

I think twm (the default configured window manager in ~/.vnc/xstartup) is
not configured at your system.

Try the option '-query localhost', it will give you a login session insite
vnc.


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RE: Xvnc & xstartup

2002-06-11 Thread "Beerse, Corné"

> -Original Message-
> From: Lee Allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> I know vncserver can start applications.  I must use Xvnc in 
> -inetd mode, to
> support multiple users and non-persistent sessions.
> 
> I was just thinking, since inetd starts Xvnc with a user 
> name, it would be
> nice if it could start the apps specified in .vnc/xstartup or 
> xinitrc, and
> not require XDMCP.  In my case, the login step required by XDMCP is
> unnecessary ... but unavoidable.
> 

If security is not an issue, it is no problem to have inetd start Xvnc
including some apps. There are several routes to do so. My idea:

Setup a user ('specialuser') and its vncserver setup, including dedicated
~/.vnc/xstartup scripts and vnc-password. Then create an inetd 'commandline'
as follows:

special-vnc stream tcp nowait specialuser /usr/local/bin/vncserver vncserver
-inetd 

(the above is 1 line). You might add options like '-once' or geometry or
depth specifications. However, you can also create a special vncserver
script (it's perl, so you must be able to create one) Best NOT to specify
the -inetd in the scipt but have that specified from the commandline and
pass trough to Xvnc, for easy testing.

Note: inetd will start a new session for every connection, so if the sessins
do not end automatically, you should specify -once to clear lost sessions.

As for the XDMCP options: They are not required if you use inetd, it's just 

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RE: VNC connecting to wrong host

2002-06-11 Thread "Beerse, Corné"

> -Original Message-
> From: Frederiksen, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> I set up VNC server using the -inetd option, following the 
> directions on the site.
> 
> I have 2 unix servers sitting next to each other. Fred and 
> Wilma. VNC is installed on fred.
> 
> When I run the viewer on a windows machine and connect to fred, I get
> wilma's login screen! WEIRD! Vnc is not installed on Wilma. 
> What am I doing wrong? I think it is maybe the -broadcast option?
> 

If you use the -broadcast option, you did not follow the site... Try '-query
localhost' or '-query fred' or '-query wilma'.

The -broadcast, -query and -indirect options are for the xdmcp protocol.
This protocol says something like: 'Who would like to provide a loggin
session at this X display?'


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RE: Gray screen revived! + tcpserver question

2002-06-11 Thread "Beerse, Corné"

> -Original Message-
> From: David Colliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Yes: get it working yourself and mail the detials to the
> maintainer. He
> does
> > a perfect job. (there is something waiting to loog in my
> inbox to update
> > that page :-(
> >
>
> Pardon!!!
>
> You were going to have a look at the update that I sent you.
> Have you been
> able to do anything with that.

You are absolutly right, I gave you, the maintainer, the credits, and blaim
myself for not acting as I prommised. I hope to find some time this week, I
prommis.

>
> As to updating the article, the article does say it is for RH
> linux, but
> could work with others. If you have the article working "as
> is" with your
> flavour of Linux, then please let me know, so that I can add
> it. If you have
> had to modify part of it to work with your flavour of linux,
> let me know the
> flavour and what modifications you have done. (Beerse Corne
> (is your first
> name Beerse or Corne?) has some updates I am just waiting to
> put on line,
> this is mainly for the web viewer though)

Corni is my first name, Beerse my family name.

>
> Regards.
> Dave Colliver.
> (maintainer of www.sourcecodecorner.com )
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RE: (no subject)

2002-06-11 Thread Richard Clegg

Alternatively you can use SSH if you want to do it securely.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: (no subject)


This is a big problem for Windows remote control tools due to the way that
screen buffering is done; definitely much slower.

What I personally tend to do if I'm going to work in a console window,
though,
is use a telnet server on the remote system.  I know it's not as nice as
having
it integrated, but I've yet to see a GUI client that can handle character
windows rapidly.

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Sent: Monday, 2002-06-10 14:12
Subject: (no subject)


> I currently use "pcAnywhere" to support my clients and have found that
they
> do not support full screen dos.  I've been looking around for alternate
> solutions and have found your program to be very efficent execpt that it
> also does not support full screen dos.
>
> Due to the fact that full screen dos moves much faster then a window dos
box
> is there any thought being put into full screen dos support?  There is
> approxamately a 65-80% slow down when running some applications in a
window
> mode compared to full screen dos mode.
>
> simply do a directory on two identical computers next to each other one
with
> full screen and one in a window and you'll see.
>
> Just some food for thought from someone who does a lot of dos work.
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