Re: [Vo]:DCE at last?
In reply to francis 's message of Mon, 30 May 2011 18:14:51 -0400: Hi, [snip] Notice that they are getting microwaves, but the device is fed at GHz frequencies, so how do we know that what they are detecting isn't just leakage (or a harmonic) of what they put in? Even if it's real, it's still no guarantee of free energy, because they put energy in and the amount they get out is tiny by comparison (I assume). >Jones, They are electrically moving the equivalent physical position of a >mirror at 5% of light speed back and forth over a nano meter range to >separate the virtual particle pair and make them real. Can dynamical Casimir >effect also explain the anomalous heat in Ni-H powders? You and I have >postulate variations of hydrogen oscillations - you between O and P spin and >I between atomic and molecular but both enabled by the unique Casimir >environment. In reading your citation and Uncle Al's replies regarding >spatial accelerations of mirrors to 5% SOL I have to wonder if this "virtual >pair splitting" can be achieved with equivalent acceleration as the hydrogen >travels between the rapid changes in energy density created by the changes >in the geometry of the Ni nano powder. The relative motion of hydrogen to >the Ni geometry would not need to be significant since energy density >changes instantly based on 1/a^3 effecting the aether thru the hydrogen >instead of spatial velocity of hydrogen thru the aether. > >Regards > >Fran > > > > > > > >One of the most surprising predictions of modern quantum theory is that the >vacuum of space is not empty. In fact, quantum theory predicts that it teems >with virtual particles flitting in and out of existence." So begin >Christopher Wilson from Chalmers University in Sweden and friends in their >marvelously readable paper about a rather extraordinary piece of science. >This maelstrom of quantum activity is far from benign. Physicists have known >since 1948 that if two flat mirrors are held close together and parallel >with each other, they will be pushed together by these virtual particles. >The reason is straightforward. When the gap between the mirrors is smaller >than the wavelength of the virtual particles, they are excluded from this >space. The vacuum pressure inside the gap is then less than outside it and >this forces the mirrors.This is the static Casimir effect and it was first >measured in 1998 by two teams in the US. But there is another phenomenon >called the dynamical Casimir effect that has never been seen. It occurs when >a mirror moves through space at relativistic speeds. Here's what happens. At >slow speeds, the sea of virtual particles can easily adapt to the mirror's >movement and continue to come into existence in pairs and then disappear as >they annihilate each other. But when the speed of the mirror begins to match >the speed of the photons, in other words at relativistic speeds, some >photons become separated from their partners and so do not get annihilated. >These virtual photons then become real and the mirror begins to produce >light. That's the theory. The problem in practice is that it's hard to get >an ordinary mirror moving at anything like relativistic speeds.But Wilson >and co have a trick up their sleeves. Instead of a conventional mirror, >they've used a transmission line connected to a superconducting quantum >interference device or SQUID. Fiddling with the SQUID changes the effective >electrical length of the line and this change is equivalent to the movement >of an electromagnetic mirror. By modulating the SQUID at GHz rates, the >mirror moves back and forth. To get an idea of scale, the transmission line >is only 100 micrometres long and the mirror moves over a distance of about a >nanometer. But the rate at which it does this means it achieves speeds >approaching 5 per cent light speed. So having perfected their mirror moving >technique, all Wilson and co have to do is cool everything down, then sit >back and look for photons. Sure enough, they've spotted microwave photons >emerging from the moving mirror, just as predicted. They finish with a short >conclusion. "We believe these results represent the first experimental >observation of the dynamical Casimir effect." Impressive result! > > Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:Technically steam is the most valuable.
Today at Rossi's Blog: *Dear Mr Neil Ferguson: No, the design of the reactor is specific if we have to make steam, * *or if we have to make hot water or just low temp heated water. In any case we can reach stability. Warm Regards, A.R.* * * Based on the experiments performed, steam is the preferred media. Technically too- it can be used for generation of electrical energy. Therefore the "perfect experiment" based on enthalpy measurement (determination) is a must. In December? -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
Translations in English, prices per page, US$: - Spanish- 5, Dutch -8, Romanian-11, Japanese 25, Rossi-Speak -50 (per sentence!) Peter On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:47 AM, wrote: > In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Mon, 30 May 2011 08:37:17 +0300: > Hi, > [snip] > >Let's suppose that 100% of what Rossi tells is 105% true. > >100% of the time. > >Then what about this: > > > >" My process has nothing to do with the process of Piantelli,” Rossi > wrote. > >“The proof is that I am making operating reactors; he is not.” (New Energy > >Times) > [snip] > Translation from Rossi speak: > > "My process is a considerable improvement on the Piantelli process." > > Regards, > > Robin van Spaandonk > > http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:DCE at last?
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:14 PM, francis wrote: > In reading your citation and Uncle Al’s replies regarding > spatial accelerations of mirrors to 5% SOL I have to wonder if this “virtual > pair splitting” can be achieved with equivalent acceleration as the hydrogen > travels between the rapid changes in energy density created by the changes > in the geometry of the Ni nano powder. Francis, I think you have hit the nail with your head. This is one explanation that I think could be taken to the bank. Good show! T
[Vo]:DCE at last?
Jones, They are electrically moving the equivalent physical position of a mirror at 5% of light speed back and forth over a nano meter range to separate the virtual particle pair and make them real. Can dynamical Casimir effect also explain the anomalous heat in Ni-H powders? You and I have postulate variations of hydrogen oscillations - you between O and P spin and I between atomic and molecular but both enabled by the unique Casimir environment. In reading your citation and Uncle Al's replies regarding spatial accelerations of mirrors to 5% SOL I have to wonder if this "virtual pair splitting" can be achieved with equivalent acceleration as the hydrogen travels between the rapid changes in energy density created by the changes in the geometry of the Ni nano powder. The relative motion of hydrogen to the Ni geometry would not need to be significant since energy density changes instantly based on 1/a^3 effecting the aether thru the hydrogen instead of spatial velocity of hydrogen thru the aether. Regards Fran One of the most surprising predictions of modern quantum theory is that the vacuum of space is not empty. In fact, quantum theory predicts that it teems with virtual particles flitting in and out of existence." So begin Christopher Wilson from Chalmers University in Sweden and friends in their marvelously readable paper about a rather extraordinary piece of science. This maelstrom of quantum activity is far from benign. Physicists have known since 1948 that if two flat mirrors are held close together and parallel with each other, they will be pushed together by these virtual particles. The reason is straightforward. When the gap between the mirrors is smaller than the wavelength of the virtual particles, they are excluded from this space. The vacuum pressure inside the gap is then less than outside it and this forces the mirrors.This is the static Casimir effect and it was first measured in 1998 by two teams in the US. But there is another phenomenon called the dynamical Casimir effect that has never been seen. It occurs when a mirror moves through space at relativistic speeds. Here's what happens. At slow speeds, the sea of virtual particles can easily adapt to the mirror's movement and continue to come into existence in pairs and then disappear as they annihilate each other. But when the speed of the mirror begins to match the speed of the photons, in other words at relativistic speeds, some photons become separated from their partners and so do not get annihilated. These virtual photons then become real and the mirror begins to produce light. That's the theory. The problem in practice is that it's hard to get an ordinary mirror moving at anything like relativistic speeds.But Wilson and co have a trick up their sleeves. Instead of a conventional mirror, they've used a transmission line connected to a superconducting quantum interference device or SQUID. Fiddling with the SQUID changes the effective electrical length of the line and this change is equivalent to the movement of an electromagnetic mirror. By modulating the SQUID at GHz rates, the mirror moves back and forth. To get an idea of scale, the transmission line is only 100 micrometres long and the mirror moves over a distance of about a nanometer. But the rate at which it does this means it achieves speeds approaching 5 per cent light speed. So having perfected their mirror moving technique, all Wilson and co have to do is cool everything down, then sit back and look for photons. Sure enough, they've spotted microwave photons emerging from the moving mirror, just as predicted. They finish with a short conclusion. "We believe these results represent the first experimental observation of the dynamical Casimir effect." Impressive result!
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Mon, 30 May 2011 21:39:15 +0300: Hi, [snip] >I hope you are right, but whats' common in the Piantelli- >Focardi nad the Rossi processes? >And what is different? > >Peter Obviously, the major difference is the catalyst. It may also be the only difference. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 30 May 2011 13:43:27 -0400: Hi, [snip] >The same is true with gamma production in the Ni-H process. Gamma rays must >come from the same universal origin no matter what the engineering >peculiarities of that origin may be. That would be true if one may make the assumption that they are indeed gamma rays. However in the case of the Rossi device there is also the possibility that they are in fact x-rays, or that at least some of them are x-rays. > > > >In particular, it is reasonable to project the behavior of gamma production >in the Piantelli and the Rossi systems behave the same. > ...thus not necessarily. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
In reply to Peter Gluck's message of Mon, 30 May 2011 08:37:17 +0300: Hi, [snip] >Let's suppose that 100% of what Rossi tells is 105% true. >100% of the time. >Then what about this: > >" My process has nothing to do with the process of Piantelli, Rossi wrote. >The proof is that I am making operating reactors; he is not. (New Energy >Times) [snip] Translation from Rossi speak: "My process is a considerable improvement on the Piantelli process." Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
[Vo]:Keep Them Addicted
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/05/29/us.saudi.prince.oil/index.html?hpt=T2 Saudi prince calls for lower oil prices (CNN) -- Saudi Prince Al-Waleed bin Talal said Sunday that he wants oil prices to drop so that the United States and Europe don't accelerate efforts to wean themselves off his country's supply. In an interview broadcast Sunday on "CNN's Fareed Zakaria GPS," the grandson of the founding king of modern Saudi Arabia said the oil price should be somewhere between $70 and $80 a barrel, rather than the current level of over $100 a barrel. "We don't want the West to go and find alternatives, because, clearly, the higher the price of oil goes, the more they have incentives to go and find alternatives," said Talal, who is listed by Forbes as the 26th richest man in the world.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma - Knows how it works, No more tests
Who is Afraid of the Big Bad Test? Actually it has to be Good test- beyond any doubts and critics. Very useful for the prestige of the inventor. Peter On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Akira Shirakawa wrote: > On 2011-05-30 20:51, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > 2- There will be a new public test somewhere (Greece, or Italy, or >> USA, or Sweden, etc): again, no more public tests will be made, >> the sole tests we make are the tests of the modules of the 1 MW >> plant which will go in operation in October in Greece, and >> obviuosly such tests are made with closed doors. >> > > Somebody please tell Rossi in his blog (as I've been banned from writing > there, I can't) that with "public tests" people actually mean "public > results/measurements"; they are not asking to see them in person. I'm not > sure if he understands this. > > Cheers, > S.A. > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma - Knows how it works, No more tests
- Original Message - > On 2011-05-30 20:51, Alan Fletcher wrote: > > > 2- again, no more public tests will be made > Somebody please tell Rossi in his blog (as I've been banned from > writing there, I can't) that with "public tests" people actually mean "public > results/measurements"; they are not asking to see them in person. I'm > not sure if he understands this. > > Cheers, S.A. I'm sure that's what he means by a "public test". ie a Black box supplied by Rossi, measurements done by third parties, limited invitation list (He couldn't do a completely open demo .. he'd be swamped.)
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma - Knows how it works, No more tests
On 2011-05-30 20:51, Alan Fletcher wrote: 2- There will be a new public test somewhere (Greece, or Italy, or USA, or Sweden, etc): again, no more public tests will be made, the sole tests we make are the tests of the modules of the 1 MW plant which will go in operation in October in Greece, and obviuosly such tests are made with closed doors. Somebody please tell Rossi in his blog (as I've been banned from writing there, I can't) that with "public tests" people actually mean "public results/measurements"; they are not asking to see them in person. I'm not sure if he understands this. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:DCE at last?
http://www.technologyreview.com/blog/arxiv/26813/?p1=Blogs Is Uncle Al onboard ?-) <>
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma - Knows how it works, No more tests
• Andrea Rossi May 30th, 2011 at 9:15 AM ART: Talking of ART, there are two metropolitan legends which are walking around: 1- We do not know the theory behind the operation of our apparatus: false, I know the theory , and will release it after the international patent will be granted. We could not arrive to produce our E-Cats, with their constant operation, without knowing the theory. One year ago I was not sure, now I’m pretty confident. 2- There will be a new public test somewhere (Greece, or Italy, or USA, or Sweden, etc): again, no more public tests will be made, the sole tests we make are the tests of the modules of the 1 MW plant which will go in operation in October in Greece, and obviuosly such tests are made with closed doors. Warm Regards, Andrea Rossi
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
I hope you are right, but whats' common in the Piantelli- Focardi nad the Rossi processes? And what is different? Peter On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Axil Axil wrote: > The "Laws of Nature" contain all the physical laws in the universe. They > are inseparable and invariant - all intertwined and working in perfect > harmony. Each law has its specific duties. They create and guide the matter > and energy of the universe. Every cubic inch of the universe contains all of > nature’s physical laws. > > > > In the work of those who seek to take advantage of the Ni-H reaction: > Piantelli, Rossi, Mills and others, the task of analysis is to separate out > the factors that are related to engineering and those that are related to > the fundamental laws in the universe. > > > > For example, the production of light is based on physical laws inseparable > and invariant in the universe. And yet light can come from any number of > separately engineered and distinct platforms: an incandescent bulb or a > mercury vapor lamp, or a laser, or a star. > > > > But if we look deep enough the source of light is all the same. > > > > The same is true with gamma production in the Ni-H process. Gamma rays must > come from the same universal origin no matter what the engineering > peculiarities of that origin may be. > > > > In particular, it is reasonable to project the behavior of gamma production > in the Piantelli and the Rossi systems behave the same. > > > > From this paper by Ficardi et al… > > > > *Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems* > > * * > > http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSevidenceof.pdf** > > > > [snip] During the degassing period, the very first acquisition revealed a > spectrum (Fig. 5) dramatically different from the background one. During > some acquisition sequences sample temperature was changed in the range from > 350 to 750K without any detectable variation in the spectrum. > > > > Samples were kept 52 days under vacuum before hydrogen admission in order > to study extensively the photon emission. After this too prolonged > treatment, the system did not produce energy. *It may be that the two > phenomena, extended photon emission and energy production, are alternative, > and mutually exclusive*.[/snip] > > > > > > The highlighted section may be a universal characteristic of gamma > production common to all Ni-H implementations. > > > > In the same way as Ficardi did, we must devise an array of tests to > isolate and simplify physical mechanisms related to gamma emissions using > simplified experiments to determine the physical basis of what is going on > fundamentally in the Ni-H reaction as well as cold fusion in general. > > > > > > > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > >> Let's suppose that 100% of what Rossi tells is 105% true. >> 100% of the time. >> Then what about this: >> >> " My process has nothing to do with the process of Piantelli,” Rossi >> wrote. “The proof is that I am making operating reactors; he is not.” (New >> Energy Times) >> >> In this case it is an error to use the data of the >> old Piantelli-Focardi cells for the E-cats. Deep mystery- a a patent can >> be captured in it. >> >> Peter >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Axil Axil wrote: >> >>> Here is “Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems” >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSevidenceof.pdf >>> >>> >>> >>> Emissions derived from undefined nuclear reactions were detected in three >>> successive experiments in a temperature range between 350 and 750 K. >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax < >>> a...@lomaxdesign.com> wrote: >>> At 12:12 AM 5/29/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: > That's one heck of a frequency conversion! > No, it simply requires that the gammas be absorbed by the apparatus. That, I believe, places an upper limit on the gamma energies, but I'm not about to calculate it, and this would also depend on the shielding thickness and the shielding material. He implies that there is gamma radiation generated during the reaction, which would point, by the way, to a scientific demonstration, showing a nuclear reaction, but it's one he does not want to do, because all that has to happen is for someone to measure the energy of those gammas, and the E-Cat could be out of the bag. Note that this demonstration would not rule out fraud. Fraud is very difficult to rule out by any sort of supervised demonstration, which is why I don't expect it to be ruled out until Rossi gets his patent protection. It's really weird. If Rossi is a scammer, he is being *protected* by US patent office refusal to grant patents, because it gives him a complete excuse to not disclose what he's doing, completely. Patents for something considered impossible should be issued. The patent applicant pays all the cost
Re: [Vo]:Rossi on Gamma
The "Laws of Nature" contain all the physical laws in the universe. They are inseparable and invariant - all intertwined and working in perfect harmony. Each law has its specific duties. They create and guide the matter and energy of the universe. Every cubic inch of the universe contains all of nature’s physical laws. In the work of those who seek to take advantage of the Ni-H reaction: Piantelli, Rossi, Mills and others, the task of analysis is to separate out the factors that are related to engineering and those that are related to the fundamental laws in the universe. For example, the production of light is based on physical laws inseparable and invariant in the universe. And yet light can come from any number of separately engineered and distinct platforms: an incandescent bulb or a mercury vapor lamp, or a laser, or a star. But if we look deep enough the source of light is all the same. The same is true with gamma production in the Ni-H process. Gamma rays must come from the same universal origin no matter what the engineering peculiarities of that origin may be. In particular, it is reasonable to project the behavior of gamma production in the Piantelli and the Rossi systems behave the same. >From this paper by Ficardi et al… *Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems* * * http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSevidenceof.pdf** [snip] During the degassing period, the very first acquisition revealed a spectrum (Fig. 5) dramatically different from the background one. During some acquisition sequences sample temperature was changed in the range from 350 to 750K without any detectable variation in the spectrum. Samples were kept 52 days under vacuum before hydrogen admission in order to study extensively the photon emission. After this too prolonged treatment, the system did not produce energy. *It may be that the two phenomena, extended photon emission and energy production, are alternative, and mutually exclusive*.[/snip] The highlighted section may be a universal characteristic of gamma production common to all Ni-H implementations. In the same way as Ficardi did, we must devise an array of tests to isolate and simplify physical mechanisms related to gamma emissions using simplified experiments to determine the physical basis of what is going on fundamentally in the Ni-H reaction as well as cold fusion in general. On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 1:37 AM, Peter Gluck wrote: > Let's suppose that 100% of what Rossi tells is 105% true. > 100% of the time. > Then what about this: > > " My process has nothing to do with the process of Piantelli,” Rossi > wrote. “The proof is that I am making operating reactors; he is not.” (New > Energy Times) > > In this case it is an error to use the data of the > old Piantelli-Focardi cells for the E-cats. Deep mystery- a a patent can be > captured in it. > > Peter > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 8:01 AM, Axil Axil wrote: > >> Here is “Evidence of electromagnetic radiation from Ni-H Systems” >> >> >> >> http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/FocardiSevidenceof.pdf >> >> >> >> Emissions derived from undefined nuclear reactions were detected in three >> successive experiments in a temperature range between 350 and 750 K. >> >> >> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 6:32 PM, Abd ul-Rahman Lomax > > wrote: >> >>> At 12:12 AM 5/29/2011, Terry Blanton wrote: >>> That's one heck of a frequency conversion! >>> >>> No, it simply requires that the gammas be absorbed by the apparatus. >>> That, I believe, places an upper limit on the gamma energies, but I'm not >>> about to calculate it, and this would also depend on the shielding thickness >>> and the shielding material. >>> >>> He implies that there is gamma radiation generated during the reaction, >>> which would point, by the way, to a scientific demonstration, showing a >>> nuclear reaction, but it's one he does not want to do, because all that has >>> to happen is for someone to measure the energy of those gammas, and the >>> E-Cat could be out of the bag. >>> >>> Note that this demonstration would not rule out fraud. Fraud is very >>> difficult to rule out by any sort of supervised demonstration, which is why >>> I don't expect it to be ruled out until Rossi gets his patent protection. >>> >>> It's really weird. If Rossi is a scammer, he is being *protected* by US >>> patent office refusal to grant patents, because it gives him a complete >>> excuse to not disclose what he's doing, completely. >>> >>> Patents for something considered impossible should be issued. The patent >>> applicant pays all the cost of the examination, and the patent (all patents) >>> should clearly state that the practical operation of the device is not >>> guaranteed by the patent office. The argument that issuance of a patent is >>> some sort of seal of approval is preposterous, as to substance. All kinds of >>> patented stuff has been completely useless. >>> >> >> > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Roma
Re: [Vo]:in Rossi reactor demos, electric input power boils away some of the cooling water: Rich Murray 2011.05.26
Old news. T On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:22 AM, Rich Murray wrote: > http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/05/06/nasa-working-on-lenr-replication-and-theory-confirmation/#comments
Re: [Vo]: Why are the electric and magnetic fields perpendicular?
> On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Mauro Lacy wrote: >> The >> fact >> that you have an explanation, and that it seems to coincide with my >> ideas >> about both, the electric and magnetic fields, >> and the aether, does not mean that that explanation is accepted and >> mainstream. > > You might consider studying Don Hotson and his idea of the epo field > relating to PAM Dirac and the sea of negative energy to find some > insight. Thank you. I realized recently that a better idea is to start by studying (and clearly understanding) the standard explanations first. I'm now studying electromagnetic theory, via MIT OCW courses. Afterwards I'll take the courses on General Relativity, and Quantum Mechanics. Regards, Mauro
Re: [Vo]:Radio24 live forum about E-cat: Focardi, Celani, Bagnasco on Radio24[ITA]
Dear Mic, take care please, I will listen again to the release The message from Brian at CMNS was probably this. From: Brian Ahern, Boxborough MA Re: Zr-Ni-Cu alloy performance Ames National Laboratory processed metal alloy foils via arc melting followed by melt spinning. This is the Yamaura process employed by Arata and others. The foils were baked in ordinary air at 445C for 28 hours. The brittle, oxidized foils were placed in a tumble mill for 24 hours. This resulted in 30 grams of black powder with a median grain size of about 40 microns.Presumably, each grain has about one million nanoscale islands of NiCu inside. The 30 grams occupies about 7 ml inside the 50 ml dewar. The system was vacuum baked at 220C for 24 hours and cooled to room temperature. H2 gas was added at 200psi. The pressure dropped only to about 185 psi over twenty minutes. In these replication experiments the exothermic reactions have had peak temperatures above 220C with substantial loading above 3.0 H/M ratios. This time the temperature only rose by 2 degrees C. The system was heated with a band heater to high temperature. There was no controller. A rheostat was set at an arbitrary position and the system comes to a an arbitrary temperature.The average power input was 90 watts. After several hours the hydrated system was evacuated overnight at a constant high temperature at 530C. The next day H2 gas was again added at 100psi and the temperature rose by 40C to 570C and came back down to 530C after two hours. At the end of the day the dewar was again evacuated while still at 530C overnight. The third day repeated the same procedure. H2 gas was added at 100psi and the temperature rose by 44C to 574C. However, this time it did not come back to the initial temperature. It remained at the elevated temperature overnight. On the fourth day H2 gas was again added at 100psi and the system rose by 50C to 580C and again stayed at the elevated temperature indefinitely. A rough calibration suggests that the 30 grams of hydrated nanopowder is putting out 5 watts of excess power. Yesterday Peter Gluck suggested that the relationship between loading and excess power may be a myth. This seemed to be true for electrolysis with Pd and heavy water where loading levels exceeding 0.9 D/M were a prerequisite for observing excess power. My loading level with this nanopowder sample as less than 0.1 H/M. This 5 watt excess is very much less than Rossi, but it is a real and repeatable experiment There was no radiation above the background level. Other alloys from Ames NL are expected within ten days Celani confirms a "beatiful > mail" from Brian Ahern "so beatiful it could not believed". > Celani states that Brian Ahern is now using a material that also > Celani uses has made very serious experiments and, as Celani expected, > the results are true. I missed that while driving... better: I could > incur in a car accident! > > > > mic > > PLUS- I was very happy to hear that Francesco supported the idea of a > (more) perfect E-cat experiment. > Peter > 2011/5/30 Peter Gluck : > > Just listening to Oscar...not bad! > > Has Celani realyy spoken about a Rossi catalyst confirmation by Brian > > Ahern? > > Peter > > > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michele Comitini > > wrote: > >> > >> Rossi cannot hide anymore... this radio talk show is really mainstream > >> media (I think they reach more than 1M listeners each day). > >> I did not hear anything new except that around 20-06-2011 there should > >> be some "validation test" by the Greek Gvt. I was driving so > >> maybe I did not catch the whole details... > >> > >> Translation will probably appear on 22passi.blogspot.com. > >> > >> It was live at 09:00 CET: > >> > >> > >> > http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?dirprog=Nove%20in%20punto,%20la%20versione%20di%20Oscar > >> > >> > >> > http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110530-noveinpunto.mp3 > >> > >> mic > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Dr. Peter Gluck > > Cluj, Romania > > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com > > > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:Radio24 live forum about E-cat: Focardi, Celani, Bagnasco on Radio24[ITA]
Another report by Maurizio Melis on Radio24 it was broadcasted 28-05-2011. http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110528-reportage.mp3 mic 2011/5/30 Michele Comitini : > Peter, > > I think Oscar Giannino is a very good journalist and also Maurizio > Melis is a very good scientific journalist. > > I am listening the recorded version, and Celani confirms a "beatiful > mail" from Brian Ahern "so beatiful it could not believed". > Celani states that Brian Ahern is now using a material that also > Celani uses has made very serious experiments and, as Celani expected, > the results are true. I missed that while driving... better: I could > incur in a car accident! > > > > mic > > > 2011/5/30 Peter Gluck : >> Just listening to Oscar...not bad! >> Has Celani realyy spoken about a Rossi catalyst confirmation by Brian >> Ahern? >> Peter >> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michele Comitini >> wrote: >>> >>> Rossi cannot hide anymore... this radio talk show is really mainstream >>> media (I think they reach more than 1M listeners each day). >>> I did not hear anything new except that around 20-06-2011 there should >>> be some "validation test" by the Greek Gvt. I was driving so >>> maybe I did not catch the whole details... >>> >>> Translation will probably appear on 22passi.blogspot.com. >>> >>> It was live at 09:00 CET: >>> >>> >>> http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?dirprog=Nove%20in%20punto,%20la%20versione%20di%20Oscar >>> >>> >>> http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110530-noveinpunto.mp3 >>> >>> mic >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Dr. Peter Gluck >> Cluj, Romania >> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >> >
Re: [Vo]:Radio24 live forum about E-cat: Focardi, Celani, Bagnasco on Radio24[ITA]
Peter, I think Oscar Giannino is a very good journalist and also Maurizio Melis is a very good scientific journalist. I am listening the recorded version, and Celani confirms a "beatiful mail" from Brian Ahern "so beatiful it could not believed". Celani states that Brian Ahern is now using a material that also Celani uses has made very serious experiments and, as Celani expected, the results are true. I missed that while driving... better: I could incur in a car accident! mic 2011/5/30 Peter Gluck : > Just listening to Oscar...not bad! > Has Celani realyy spoken about a Rossi catalyst confirmation by Brian > Ahern? > Peter > > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michele Comitini > wrote: >> >> Rossi cannot hide anymore... this radio talk show is really mainstream >> media (I think they reach more than 1M listeners each day). >> I did not hear anything new except that around 20-06-2011 there should >> be some "validation test" by the Greek Gvt. I was driving so >> maybe I did not catch the whole details... >> >> Translation will probably appear on 22passi.blogspot.com. >> >> It was live at 09:00 CET: >> >> >> http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?dirprog=Nove%20in%20punto,%20la%20versione%20di%20Oscar >> >> >> http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110530-noveinpunto.mp3 >> >> mic >> > > > > -- > Dr. Peter Gluck > Cluj, Romania > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com >
Re: [Vo]:Radio24 live forum about E-cat: Focardi, Celani, Bagnasco on Radio24[ITA]
Just listening to Oscar...not bad! Has Celani realyy spoken about a Rossi catalyst confirmation by Brian Ahern? Peter On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Michele Comitini < michele.comit...@gmail.com> wrote: > Rossi cannot hide anymore... this radio talk show is really mainstream > media (I think they reach more than 1M listeners each day). > I did not hear anything new except that around 20-06-2011 there should > be some "validation test" by the Greek Gvt. I was driving so > maybe I did not catch the whole details... > > Translation will probably appear on 22passi.blogspot.com. > > It was live at 09:00 CET: > > > http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?dirprog=Nove%20in%20punto,%20la%20versione%20di%20Oscar > > > http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110530-noveinpunto.mp3 > > mic > > -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
[Vo]:Radio24 live forum about E-cat: Focardi, Celani, Bagnasco on Radio24[ITA]
Rossi cannot hide anymore... this radio talk show is really mainstream media (I think they reach more than 1M listeners each day). I did not hear anything new except that around 20-06-2011 there should be some "validation test" by the Greek Gvt. I was driving so maybe I did not catch the whole details... Translation will probably appear on 22passi.blogspot.com. It was live at 09:00 CET: http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/main.php?dirprog=Nove%20in%20punto,%20la%20versione%20di%20Oscar http://www.radio24.ilsole24ore.com/player/player.php?filename=110530-noveinpunto.mp3 mic
