RE: [Vo]:Plasma Extremes Seen through Gas Bubble
Axil, very interesting post.. you are connecting the different anomalies nicely. Fran From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2014 5:33 PM To: vortex-l Subject: EXTERNAL: [Vo]:Plasma Extremes Seen through Gas Bubble http://physics.aps.org/articles/v7/72 Plasma Extremes Seen through Gas Bubble There are a lot of electrons produced by Sonoluminescence during cavitation bubble collapse. Snip Within this model, they calculated an electron density of (more than) 10^^21 electrons per cubic centimeter, which agrees with a previous sonoluminescence experiment in acid that used a different technique. By comparison, ICF researchers aim for around 10^^23 electrons per cubic centimeter to ignite fusion. EndSnip This is a lower limit only on electron numbers in cavatation. The Key to LENR is energy concentration made possible by producing huge amounts of electrons in the smallest possible volume. Cavitation is yet another way to produce such electron concentrations. I suspect that these electrons organize themselves into a soliton because of the very tranquil nature of their production in the collapsing bubble. Unlike ICF fusion attempts, the movement of LENR based electron ensembles will tend to for a vortex ring as these electron collections self-rotate, condense and arrogate together. In point of general fact, it is not the quantity of the electron production, but the organized way this electron ensemble moves together that produces LENR. In the NiH reactor, there are about 6.86 10^^23 electrons in each soliton. Each soliton is highly compact being just 10s of nanometers across. An indication that the electrons are entangled with photons to from surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) is that when the bubble cycle is over, an intense flash of XUV light is emitted as the elections and photons are de-entangled. Snip The freed electrons deflect off of atoms or ions, causing them to emit photons in a picosecond-long flash of light (a process called thermal bremsstrahlung). EndSnip This is not the cause of the flash. The flash is caused by polariton de-entanglement in the same fashion as photon de-entanglement forms the laser pulse production in the polariton laser.. There is a one-to-one correspondence between the number of photons in the bright ultra-blue flash and the number of electrons that formed the bubble based polariton soliton. The polariton is a boson which removes the limits on the concentration imposed on the electrons by the fermion applicable Pauli exclusion rule. ICF must fight this exclusion rule whereas LENR does not. It seems that a group of orthodox scientist is getting into LENR via a back door, they just don’t know it yet. Well better late than never.
[Vo]: Re: CMNS: water memory by Luc Montagnier
Related to water memory and water conditioning by pulsed electromagnetic radiation http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/25969583/giant-corals-rapidly-dissolving-off-kauai http://darkmattersalot.com/2014/07/08/bad-more-bad/ Here is a very good research site on water properties: http://www1.lsbu.ac.uk/water/magnetic.html After two years of research, I believe we ALL have a very bad problem with high-powered, pulsed microwave radars (weather, military navigation) conditioning or softening rainwater and oceanwater and dissolving calcium carbonates and such. Nature likes hard water. Stewart On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 7:15 AM, 'Jean-Paul Biberian' via CMNS c...@googlegroups.com wrote: Dear all, You can watch until July 12th at: http://www.france5.fr/emission/retrouve-la-memoire-de-leau a documentary shown on a public TV channel, France 5 of the work of Luc Montagnier medicine Nobel winner for his discovery of the AIDS virus. After the death of Jacques Benveniste in 2004, Luc Montagnier has started working himself in his footsteps. He has made a great contribution to the field. Interestingly, even though the show was aired twice on TV, no main media showed any interest. If you understand French, you will enjoy the program. -- Jean-Paul Biberian Tel : + 33 660 14 04 85 www.jeanpaulbiberian.net www.cryofusion.org -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CMNS group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cmns+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to c...@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cmns. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5
Special thanks should be accorded to Dennis Cravens for his openness and the great detail of information which he has provided on a most important experiment. He deserves a big award for this work, even if it turns out not to be nuclear fusion, per se - and especially if it does turn out to be LENR. Why hasn't a National Lab replicate this important work? (Rhetorical question and the answer is obvious). For the record - here is more background on LaNi5, which is looking more-and-more like the magic bullet for Ni-H thermal effects when combined with a magnetic field (this combination could be in order to reach a superparamagnetic state of self-resonance). http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/j100476a006 I should caution that all of the analysis in this thread wrt to LaNi5 is a personal and minority appraisal, and that Dennis Cravens along with almost everyone else who was involved or saw the experiment, considers it to be a version of the Les Case work, involving the fusion of deuterium. Why not? It is fully derivative of that line of experimental work and so on ... but ... that may not be sufficient. IMHO there are good reasons to suspect that there is no nuclear reaction and the thermal anomaly is related to magnetic interaction with the zero point field and with ground-state redundancy, which is different from the Mills model in several important ways (but also similar in one way). LaNi5 is like few other proton conductors (or hydrogen storage alloys) in its physical properties, especially combined with magnetic properties. With or without a Casimir boost, this route should be adequate for gain. Had Jovion of Moddel realized the properties of LaNi5, we would not be having this conversation. Superparamagnetism and fluorescence show up in nanoparticles of La alloys. This alloy absorbs significantly more hydrogen than palladium through pure chemisorption at an unbelievably rapid rate. Plus, and most notably, almost 100% of the element lanthanum is high-spin (7/2) with extreme NMR properties. Protons are absorbed directly into the alloy, instead of as atoms or molecules, and there is an huge variance (in magnetic properties) between protons and atoms. Hyperfine structure due to spin and Rydberg states interact in a mysterious way, and from the perspective of Rydberg values in Mills' theory, the La alloy when in a crystal unit at a ratio with nickel of 5:1, we have a persistent orbital vacancy or hole an seemingly without ionization, due only to an orbital vacancy - of enthalpy corresponding to 191.9 eV, as opposed to the optimum value of 190.4 eV. In short, that near-perfect fit makes LaNi5 look like the real-deal for thermal anomalies in a modified (alternative) Millsean understanding which can be called cold f/H since the redundant state follows chemisorption and is a relic of the expulsion of labile protons from the metal matrix, instead of the opposite modality. In fact, if there is UV emission, and there could be none - then it could be shed resonantly inside a Casimir pit or cavity as the proton emerges from the matrix and captures an electron at the 1/7th orbital. The downside of this short search has been trying to find an ethical supplier of LaNi5 for experimentation. LaNi5 seems to be available from several sources in China for $25 kg in ton quantities, but chemical supply houses in the USA have inflated that price by a factor of 5,000 for small quantities. If anyone finds a good supplier for small quantities, please post the information. _ I just noticed a curious detail about the Cravens NI-Week demo which we have been talking about, but which many have overlooked in importance ... and especially one particular datum of info. http://www.infinite-energy.com/images/pdfs/NIWeekCravens.pdf On page 3, Dennis explains lnside the sphere is a hydrogen storage material. We used material taken from a commercial fuel cell storage metal (Hydrofil) that was loaded with deuterium. As best I can tell from online sources, the storage metal used in this Hydrofill cartridge is known as proprietary AB5, but in reality is the generic hydrogen storage alloy- LaNi5 which is lanthanum penta-nickel. Whoa... that rings a bell so to speak. This material was predicted some time ago to be active on its own for thermal gain in reversible storage situations due to one special property. That property would be in addition to lanthanum being almost exactly the mass-energy of the Higgs boson :-) http://www.micromeritics.com/Repository/Files/The_Heat_of_Adsorption_of_Hydr ogen_Gas_on_Lanthanum_Pentanickel.pdf Here are several far-out predictions based on gut feeling and 6th sense intuition based somewhat on Higgs and somewhat on nanomagnetism - 1) Cravens device depends on the unique chemisorption properties of LaNi5 combined with
Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5
Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Special thanks should be accorded to Dennis Cravens for his openness and the great detail of information which he has provided on a most important experiment. He deserves a big award for this work . . . Yes! It is a fine paper. I copied it to LENR-CANR.org. Such an elegant demonstration! This is my favorite kind of experiment: one based on first principles without depending on instruments. Martin Fleischmann also liked this kind of thing, such as his boil-off tests. A experiment with lots of instruments yields more useful information, which I suppose is needed for a theory. You need both kinds, but this is sweet. I just read the paper again. . . . I noticed something on the first page that relates to the Defkalion fiasco. Maybe I should let bygones be bygones, but to keep the historical record clear, note that it says: Two weeks before NI Week, in conjunction with ICCF18, Defkalion did a live Internet demonstration where they claimed they produced 4 kW of heat out from 1 kW of electrical power. In other words, you get four times energy savings with their device, if true. However, there seems to be questions about some of their water flow and magnetic field measurements. I recall hearing about that from various sources. As you see from the tone here, Dennis thought this was an honest mistake of some sort. So did I. I figured it was nothing to get excited about. People make mistakes during demonstrations. The Gamberale report makes me think it was more sinister. - Jed
[Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!
Skeuomorph means an ornament or design on an object copied from a form of the object when made from another material or by other techniques, as an imitation metal rivet mark found on handles of prehistoric pottery. In my book I described this: with ingenuity and extra effort, the limitations of the old are imposed on the new. Nowhere in modern technology do you find skeuomorphs more often than in automobiles. There are many amusing examples. Years ago when continuously variable transmissions were introduced, some were engineered to produce fake jolts as they went from one pretend gear to the next. The Prius starts to move the moment you take your foot off the brake, before you press the gas pedal. There is no need for that, but that is how conventional automatic transmissions work, and the car is designed to imitate them. Here is a recent example of a ridiculous automotive skeuomorph. This is from a description a luxury plug-in hybrid automobile that costs $136,000. Hybrid cars are inherently quiet, both inside and out. Apparently the designers thought this one is too quiet on the inside, because they added a feature to make it noisy: http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-autos-bmw-i8-review-20140502-story.html 2014 BMW i8 plug-in hybrid: High performance but with a conscience . . . the best way to play is with the i8 in its Sport setting. That's also where the car does its most efficient recharging. Sport mode tightens up the steering and adaptive suspension, quickens the transmission shifts, makes the throttle more eager and lets the electric motor kick in earlier. It also pipes the engine's divine whir into the cabin — in a way the company calls 'augmented.' BMW prerecorded the i8's best engine noises. When driven in Sport mode, the car plays this sonic mixture through its speaker systems. Of course, this is ridiculous and fake, and represents everything that's wrong with the future of motoring. But it sounds so good that you feel dirty and cheap for loving it. . . . (Note that being too quiet on the outside is a genuine problem for hybrid cars and electric cars. Pedestrians sometimes cannot hear the cars coming. In Japan they are thinking of adding a noise about as loud as a cell phone ring which will sound at very low speeds.) - Jed
Re: [Vo]:RE: Hydrofill and LaNi5
Alibaba is a good source for overseas chemicals. The vendors are usually happy to send smaller quantities as samples. http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=yIndexArea=product_enCatId=SearchText=LANTHANUM+nickel FYI: A quick google of deuterium LaNi5 returned a paper from 1979 called Low-energy excitations of hydrogen and deuterium in LaNi5 but is behind a $33.00 paywall. http://iopscience.iop.org/0305-4608/9/7/002/pdf/0305-4608_9_7_002.pdf Does anyone have news on Dennis' sphere experiment? New or scaled up versions? Is he still waiting for a patent? - Brad
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Tue, 8 Jul 2014 18:17:03 -0400: Hi, [snip] I would guess 10 kilowatts per hour for the number of hours in the six month test. Was that a rate of acceleration or deceleration in the power production? ;) 4380 hours at 10 kilowatts/hour or 43800 kilowatt hours. or about 44 megawatt hours. kilowatt hours means kilowatts times hours it can't also be kilowatts/hour. The two are direct opposites. You are either multiplying by hours, or dividing by hours, it can't be both at the same time. Contrary to popular belief, kilowatt is NOT an abbreviation of kilowatt hours. Just to set things straight: A kilowatt (kW) is a unit of power, not energy. IOW it is the time based *rate* of energy consumption or production. E.g. how much energy is produced *per unit of time*. A kilowatt hour (kWh) is a unit of energy. So I assume you meant 10 kW for 6 months = 10 kW x 4383 hours = 43,830 kWh. The amount of hydrogen is fixed through the use of hydrides but the amount is unknown In that case, you can't possibly determine the energy release per Hydrogen atom, and hence you can't possibly state that Hydrinos are excluded as an explanation. On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Axil Axil's message of Mon, 7 Jul 2014 20:34:49 -0400: Hi, [snip] The power density implied by a continuous 6 month test of Rossi's reactor tells me that the energy source that drives the Ni/H reactor must be nuclear and can not chemical. This excludes the hydrino mechanism from LENR. Do you know how much Hydrogen was used during the test, and what the total energy release was? Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:28:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] However, if hydrogen was added continuously during the long run (as expected), then the amount consumed would tell us volumes about the nature of the reaction by knowing the thermal output per atom consumed. If it was in the range of 200 eV per atom of H2 then we are talking f/H reactions, and if it is MeV range and up, per atom consumed, then we are talking nuclear. We need to see these results, but according to the sparse record of the Hot-Cat, and the fixed amount of starting fuel - then the reaction is most likely neither LENR or the hydrino. In fact, that strange outcome - requiring the mention of a vacuum/ZPE/Dirac source of energy transfer, would be very difficult for all of those PhDs to swallow, and thus responsible for a much longer delay than if the reaction can be pinned to nuclear. I agree. However lets see the numbers before jumping to conclusions. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
RE: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!
Thanks for teaching me a new word. I sure see a lot of that in architecture: Steep roofs that could shed snow really well ( but it doesn't snow here, or rain much for that matter). Shutters that don't close and wouldn't be needed even if they did. Greek and Roman columns that don't hold up anything. Wooden beam ends that don't support anything, but look as if they are structural. Shingles -- taking perfectly good roofing material and cutting it up into little pieces. Big masonry chimneys containing nothing but 8 diameter steel tubes inside ( and fireplaces with fake logs inside). Fake dormers. Lots of other useless protuberances. It's really hard to find a house without those things. P.S. I live next to Frank Lloyd Wright's Taliesen West compound and admire his designs. Hoyt Stearns Scottsdale, Arizona US From: Jed Rothwell [mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 9, 2014 1:30 PM Skeuomorph means an ornament or design on an object copied from a form of the object when made from another material or by other techniques, as an imitation metal rivet mark found on handles of prehistoric pottery. In my book I described this: with ingenuity and extra effort, the limitations of the old are imposed on the new --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com
Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!
Hoyt A. Stearns Jr. hoyt-stea...@cox.net wrote: Thanks for teaching me a new word. I sure see a lot of that in architecture: That's true! I had forgotten about architecture when I cited automobiles. I guess I was thinking of high-tech machinery, such as automobiles, generators, computers and so on. Steep roofs that could shed snow really well ( but it doesn't snow here, or rain much for that matter). I do wish I had a steep roof here in Atlanta. It would shed the pine needles better. But then again maybe I don't want one, because I could not safely climb it to get at the ones that are not washed off by the rain. The new MacMansions have much steeper roofs than the houses made in the 1950s, such as mine. Shingles -- taking perfectly good roofing material and cutting it up into little pieces. Actually, there is a good reason for making them the size they are. One package of shingles is about as heavy as an ordinary worker can lift. (It is as much as *I* can lift, anyway.) Make them any heavier and you would need a fork lift to get them on the roof, plus the package might break through the plywood -- which is not very strong. What we need is a machine to lift a continuous roll of roofing material to the level of the roof, and then position it. Sort of like a cherry picker, or one of these machines they used to pour concrete into tight places. The machine would lift the material up, and then a human would grab the end of the roll and pull it into position, and nail it down. You would cut off the material at the end of the roof. Actually, what we need are houses build mainly in factories by robots. Pre-fab houses and components such as bathrooms are more common in Japan than the U.S. They are kind of soulless but cheap and well made. Human strength is still the limiting factor in many tasks in construction, farming and other industries. The civil engineer Samuel Florman pointed this out in one of his books, describing a mistake he made when he was starting out. He ordered wooden beams that were twice as big but much cheaper than the ones they usually purchased to shore up some construction. The problem was, they were too big for the workers to install. - Jed
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
Because the molecular mass of Hydrogen is 1gram/mole, there is 1 mole of hydrogen in 1 gram of hydrogen atoms. For every mole, there are 6.02*10^23 atoms so in 1 gram of hydrogen there are 6.02*10^23 hydrogen atoms (in scientific notation) this is equal to 6020 hydrogen atoms. If the gas envelop capacity of the reactor is one liter and is operating at a pressure of 3 bar then 1 mole of an ideal gas = 22.4 liters at one bar 1 mole of H2 = 2.016 grams 2.016 g / 22.4 liters= 0.09 g per liter at one bar At 3 bar, there is .27 g of hydrogen in the gas envelope The number of hydrogen atoms is therefore .27 g * 6020 hydrogen atoms/g = 16254000 hydrogen atoms more or less Please complete the Miles chemical energy calculation. On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:24 PM, mix...@bigpond.com wrote: In reply to Jones Beene's message of Tue, 8 Jul 2014 16:28:32 -0700: Hi, [snip] However, if hydrogen was added continuously during the long run (as expected), then the amount consumed would tell us volumes about the nature of the reaction by knowing the thermal output per atom consumed. If it was in the range of 200 eV per atom of H2 then we are talking f/H reactions, and if it is MeV range and up, per atom consumed, then we are talking nuclear. We need to see these results, but according to the sparse record of the Hot-Cat, and the fixed amount of starting fuel - then the reaction is most likely neither LENR or the hydrino. In fact, that strange outcome - requiring the mention of a vacuum/ZPE/Dirac source of energy transfer, would be very difficult for all of those PhDs to swallow, and thus responsible for a much longer delay than if the reaction can be pinned to nuclear. I agree. However lets see the numbers before jumping to conclusions. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:Skeuomorphs ride again!
Actually, what we need are houses build mainly in factories by robots. Pre-fab houses and components such as bathrooms are more common in Japan than the U.S. They are kind of soulless but cheap and well made. http://phys.org/news/2014-07-kite-bricks-prototype-smarter-approach.html Here is a brick that can be laid by robot.
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
In reply to Axil Axil's message of Wed, 9 Jul 2014 18:50:12 -0400: Hi, [snip] Because the molecular mass of Hydrogen is 1gram/mole, there is 1 mole of hydrogen in 1 gram of hydrogen atoms. For every mole, there are 6.02*10^23 atoms so in 1 gram of hydrogen there are 6.02*10^23 hydrogen atoms (in scientific notation) this is equal to 6020 hydrogen atoms. If the gas envelop capacity of the reactor is one liter and is operating at a pressure of 3 bar then 1 mole of an ideal gas = 22.4 liters at one bar 1 mole of H2 = 2.016 grams 2.016 g / 22.4 liters= 0.09 g per liter at one bar At 3 bar, there is .27 g of hydrogen in the gas envelope The number of hydrogen atoms is therefore .27 g * 6020 hydrogen atoms/g = 16254000 hydrogen atoms more or less Please complete the Miles chemical energy calculation. 1) Is gas in the envelope at the start the only source of Hydrogen, or is replaced from a bottle during the course of the experiment? 2) Is there any hydride of another metal present (e.g. Lanthanum)? 3) Was the Ni powder saturated with H during the initial pressurization? 4) Was any Hydrogen left in the envelope after the experiment? BTW if the actual amount of Hydrogen used is as you stated, then the energy release / H atom for 43000 kWh is about 6 MeV / H atom, which would obviously be nuclear in origin. Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
Re: [Vo]:hydrinos can't do it.
1) Is gas in the envelope at the start the only source of Hydrogen, Yes, the reactor may be subject to vacuum to remove air before the start of operation. If the envelope is initialized with hydrogen from a tank, the hydride will take the pressure up too high upon heating. The initialization/shutdown cycle is controlled through heating and cooling only. No hydrogen manipulation is required. or replaced from a bottle during the course of the experiment? No replacement. This is to keep the init/shutdown process systemic in terms of pressure. 2) Is there any hydride of another metal present (e.g. Lanthanum)? Yes 3) Was the Ni powder saturated with H during the initial pressurization? No. Pressurization occurs as the hydride heats and releases hydrogen to the envelope. I speculate that the envelope is subject to a vacuum before operations. 4) Was any Hydrogen left in the envelope after the experiment? The hydrogen is reabsorbed by the hydride upon cooling of the reactor. How hydrogen is handled throughout the test will be of great interest when the test procedure is released. But it is safe to say, to make the reactor idiot proof, and failsafe, no hydrogen manipulation is permitted in commercial operations. As a design objective, the reactor must be a sealed unit to protect its intellectual content.
