Re: [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.

[Brian Ahern]

" His LENR Development is essentially over?"



Do you mean he has abandoned the field?


It is a moot point since he will not even show up on June 26 to face the music.



From: Axil Axil 
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:49 PM
To: vortex-l
Subject: [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.



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#405

Quote

Andrea Rossi
June 8, 2017 at 7:55 
AM

JPR:

The temperatures are stable, the COP is stable both with spectrometry and with 
calorimetry, I am satisfied.

Warm Regards,

A.R.


Rossi has found the conditions that the LENR reaction wants to stabilize at. 
His QuarkX reactor is made of materials that can handle those conditions over 
the long term. All his problems are a thing of the past. His LENR development 
is essentially over.

Re: [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.

[Axil Axil]

I understood that Rossi was playing the music to the tune of 89 million
times 3 that IH is dancing to.

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:

> " His LENR Development is essentially over?"
>
>
>
> Do you mean he has abandoned the field?
>
>
> It is a moot point since he will not even show up on June 26 to face the
> music.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Axil Axil 
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:49 PM
> *To:* vortex-l
> *Subject:* [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.
>
>
>
>- #405
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> 
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> Quote
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> Andrea Rossi
> June 8, 2017 at 7:55 AM
> 
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> JPR:
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> The temperatures are stable, the COP is stable both with spectrometry and
> with calorimetry, I am satisfied.
>
>
> Warm Regards,
>
>
> A.R.
>
>
> Rossi has found the conditions that the LENR reaction wants to stabilize
> at. His QuarkX reactor is made of materials that can handle those
> conditions over the long term. All his problems are a thing of the past.
> His LENR development is essentially over.
>

Re: [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.

[Axil Axil]

More...


   1. Frank Acland
   June 8, 2017 at 8:19 PM
   

   Dear Andrea,

   It has been a long time since you announced the E-Cat (January 2011),
   and it has been through a number of models (e.g Low Temperature E-Cat, Hot
   Cat, Tiger)

   When you say that you are ‘satisfied’ with the COP and temperature
   stability, does this mean that you have reached a point of E-Cat/QuarkX
   development that you feel can go to market with, without the need for a new
   improved version.

   Best wishes,

   Frank Acland

   Frank
   2. Andrea Rossi
   June 9, 2017 at 9:10 AM
   

   Frank Acland:
   Yes, this is what I suppose based on the facts we are observing.
   Warm Regards,
   A.R.


On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 3:22 PM, Axil Axil  wrote:

> I understood that Rossi was playing the music to the tune of 89 million
> times 3 that IH is dancing to.
>
> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 12:53 PM, Brian Ahern  wrote:
>
>> " His LENR Development is essentially over?"
>>
>>
>>
>> Do you mean he has abandoned the field?
>>
>>
>> It is a moot point since he will not even show up on June 26 to face the
>> music.
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Axil Axil 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 8, 2017 3:49 PM
>> *To:* vortex-l
>> *Subject:* [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.
>>
>>
>>
>>- #405
>>
>> 
>>
>> Quote
>>
>> Andrea Rossi
>> June 8, 2017 at 7:55 AM
>> 
>>
>> JPR:
>>
>>
>> The temperatures are stable, the COP is stable both with spectrometry and
>> with calorimetry, I am satisfied.
>>
>>
>> Warm Regards,
>>
>>
>> A.R.
>>
>>
>> Rossi has found the conditions that the LENR reaction wants to stabilize
>> at. His QuarkX reactor is made of materials that can handle those
>> conditions over the long term. All his problems are a thing of the past.
>> His LENR development is essentially over.
>>
>
>

Re: [Vo]:It's all over except for the shouting.

[Jones Beene]

Brian Ahern wrote:

Axil: " His LENR Development is essentially over?"

> Do you mean he has abandoned the field? It is a moot point since he 
will not even show up on June 26 to face the music.



The choices facing Rossi could make being "unavailable" for trial 
preferable to facing the music. Efforts to postpone the trial date have 
failed and he may be getting desperate. From the pretrial depositions 
and filings, his case looks weak (according to Lomax who has followed 
every twist and turn) and the counterclaim of Industrial Heat against AR 
for *Fraudulent Inducement *remains intact. That could cost millions. 
There is little doubt that the invented "customer" was indeed 
fraudulent, and probably some of the data.


Of course Rossi cannot walk away from this mess without repercussions, 
so the options he has are few. The one which no one talks about is 
illness - either real or "convenient."


Several photographs have appeared in the past few months of a 
frail-looking AR wearing a wig. Lomax reports that one of these wig 
occasions was a court hearing which could have been the one where he 
tried to have the counterclaim dismissed. If he is not really ill, he 
may be setting the stage. Nancy Grace will be sooo disappointed.

RE: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Robin—


In reply to your message of  Fri, 9 Jun 2017 16:15:51


My suggestion about allowable locations for Bose particles reflects the 
Introduction below form
The following document noted by Axil:

‘Disorder, synchronization and phase locking in
non-equilibrium Bose-Einstein condensates’

BY:  Paul R. Eastham, Trinity College Dublin, Dublin 2, Ireland and
Bernd Rosenow University of Leipzig, 04009 Leipzig, Germany

“INTRODUCTION
It is twenty years  weakly-interacting ultracold gas. In other settings,
namely superconductivity (which we understand in terms of a Bose-Einstein
condensate of Cooper pairs), Bose-Einstein condensates have been available
in laboratories for over a century. Yet their behaviour is still startling.
Because the many particles of the condensate occupy the same quantum
state, collective properties become described by a macroscopic wavefunction,
with an interpretation parallel to that of the single-particle wavefunction
of Schrodinger's equation. Thus, many of the phenomena of single-particle
quantum mechanics appear as behaviours of the condensate.”

Bosenovas are uncontrolled  reactions of a BEC resulting in resulting in the 
release of EM radiation in  lieu of phonic energy IMHO.  A spectrum analysis of 
the Bosenova would tell much about the BEC coherent system allowable energy 
transitions.

Bob Cook



From: mix...@bigpond.com
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 2:05 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 9 Jun 2017 16:15:51
+:
Hi,
[snip]
>To  add to Axil’s comments, it is my understanding that Bose particles (0 or 
>+/- integral intrinsic spin) can occupy the same energy states in  a coherent 
>system.  This implies that that it is possible for two particles to be at the 
>same location at the same time.

No, it doesn't.

Regards,

Robin van Spaandonk

http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html

RE: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature

[bobcook39...@hotmail.com]

Harry—

Thanks.

Your thought experiment IMHO clearly swapped potential energy of the 
gravitational system of earth mass and weight mass to an electrically coupled 
system of atoms in the spring as well as heating the water with added phonic 
energy in the form of increased linear kinetic energy of water molecules as 
well as an increase in the average of their spin energy in the form of angular 
momentum.

It’s a good example of a macroscopic system changing potential energy into 
kinetic, in accordance with the second law of thermodynamics and reflecting 
what happens in coherent systems involved in LENR.

Bob Cook



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From: H LV
Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 7:47 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Bose Einstein Condensate formed at Room Temperature



On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 1:07 AM, H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:
animation explaining Joule's apparatus and his calculations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yOhSIAIPRE

Harry

On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 11:43 PM, H LV 
mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Joule's apparatus used a spindle with paddles which was turned by a falling 
weight outside the calorimeter. The motion of the falling weight did not result 
in the generation of potential energy. It only resulted in the warming of the 
water inside calorimeter. However, if the falling of the weight were to wind up 
a spring in addition to turning of the paddle then the same energy input - in 
the form gravitational potential energy (i.e. the weight time the height 
through which the weight falls) would warm the water AND store energy in the 
spring. According to Joule the amount of heat generated is only a function of 
how far the weight falls. It is not a function of how quickly it falls, so even 
if the spring slows the descent of the weight the calorimeter will read the 
same rise in temperature with or without the spring attached.
​
This thought experiment demonstrates how two systems can have the same energy 
input and generate the same temperatures but one can store energy and the other 
can't.
t

​
What I said above is not correct. In my thought experiment where I add a spring 
to Joule's original experiment (described in the video link given above) the 
amount of heat generated will be reduced because the weight will fall more 
slowly as it has to overcome both the resistance of the water and the spring.  
What needs to be emphasized is that Joule's original experiment implicitly 
assumes that the water does not store energy because the the amount of heat 
generated is claimed to be only dependent on the height the weight falls. 
Another way of stating this assumption is that all the resistance experienced 
by the falling weight is converted into thermal energy and none of it is stored 
energy.

Harry​