Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursorto all future devices

[Axil Axil]

There are methods to amplify this type of vacuum energy. When 10s of
thousands of polariton condensates hold trillions of polaritons and those
polaritons are recycled at  billions of times  a second then we get large
amounts of vacuum energy.

Mizumo does not do recycling since he uses heat as a input energy pump. For
systems that use a waveform like RF, the recycling of the polaritons occurs
based on the frequency of the RF.

Now this post excerpt explains how recycling works. The reduction in
radioactive isotope half life levels can be used as an indicator of how
SPPs are recycled based on an optimum EMF pumping frequency,

The mechanism of polariton Bose condensation causation in gold nanoparticle
excitation involves the generation of a local plasma state and associated
intense EMF fields around a gold nanoparticle that generates a critical
density of surface plasmon polaritons (SPP) which generates a polariton
condensate that acts as a micro analog black hole in which relativistic
time dilation occurs in and round its vortex flux tubes. The SPP condensate and
Its vortex tube are pictured in other posts.



*Reference: https://arxiv.org/abs/1112.6276
*



 *Accelerated alpha-decay of **232**U isotope achieved by exposure of its
aqueous solution with gold nanoparticles to laser radiation*



*A.V. Simakin, G.A. Shafeev*

*This reference sheds light on the posit that an electromagnetic black hole
accelerates radioactive decay through relativistic time dilation. With this
posit in mind, experimental data elucidates what the optimum duration of
the pumping EMF **time-frame** should be.*





 "Experimental results are presented on laser-induced accelerated
alpha-decay of Uranium-232nuclei under laser exposure of Au nanoparticles
in aqueous solutions of its salt. It is demonstrated that the decrease of
alpha-activity strongly depends on the peak intensity of the laser
radiation in the liquid and is highest at several terawatt per square
centimeter. The decrease of alpha-activity of the exposed solutions is
accompanied by the deviation of gamma-activities of daughter nuclides of
Uranium-232 from their equilibrium values. Possible mechanisms of the laser
influence on the alpha-activity are discussed on the basis of the
amplification of the electric field of laser wave on metallic
nanoparticles."



The referenced article shows that the polariton Bose condensate reduces the
69 year half-life ofU232 to 5 microseconds. It addition, the acceleration
of radioactive decay of the 4.5 billion year half-life of uranium is
sufficiently time accelerated to produce significant detectable uranium
decay products.



Both the power of the laser pulse and its duration are important factors in
producing optimum half-life decay acceleration. The nanosecond laser pulse
length is too short to optimize radioactive decay acceleration as well of
the 350 ps laser source. The 150 ps laser source seems to be a better fit
to match the 50 ps life span of the polariton which is the resonance value
for optimization of decay.



Another insight gleaned for this experiment is that the length of the laser
pulse does not produce continuing radioactive decay acceleration. This is
important: The LENR activity is constrained by the lifetime of the
polariton and is active only as long as the polariton is active.


The LENR reaction is like milking a cow, you only get energy when you
squeeze. Just holding the teats gets you nowhere



On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:39 PM JonesBeene  wrote:

> Hawking radiation may be real but the evidence for it seems to indicate
> that it  is far too weak to be relevant in LENR even of UDH is identical to
>  dark matter.
>
>
>

RE: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursorto all future devices

[JonesBeene]

Hawking radiation may be real but the evidence for it seems to indicate that it 
 is far too weak to be relevant in LENR even of UDH is identical to  dark 
matter.

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

[Axil Axil]

The latest analog black hole experiment done in  Israel  has extracted
phonic energy as Hawking radiation from the vacuum.



https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-stimulated-hawking-radiation-in-a-lab-analogue-of-a-black-hole



We Just Got Lab-Made Evidence of Stephen Hawking's Greatest Prediction
About Black Holes

So, cue trying to recreate it in a lab using black hole analogues. These
can be built from things that produce waves, such as fluid and sound waves
in a special tank , from
Bose-Einstein
condensates
, or
from light contained in optical fibre.

Does that help?

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 6:06 PM  wrote:

> In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2019
> 02:28:29
> +:
> Hi Bob,
> [snip]
> >Robin-
> >
> >
> >
> >During NMR isomeric transitions, nuclear species are stimulated with a
> radio frequency EM field to gain kinetic spin energy in the form of
> increased angular momentum in small quanta of angular momentum—each quantum
> being equal to h/2pie.  An ambient magnetic field would change the allowed
> states for such nuclear spin energy states.
> >
> >Thus, change in a coherent system’s angular momentum occur in 0 or more
> quanta of angular momentum .   However the total angular momentum must be
> conserved just as energy is conserved in a coherent system phase change.
> (The reaction does not involve release of any particles with kinetic
> energy, including no photons or neutrinos)  Only an increase of phonic
> lattice energy and a decrease of nuclear orbital angular momentum happens
> associated with a different meta stable or stable nuclear
> configuration—even ones with a transmuted configuration, but withunchangedt
> sums of protons and neutrons.
>
> 1) What is this "coherent system", and specifically, in what respect is it
> coherent, i.e. which property of the system?
> 2) How do you propose that the nuclear energy is actually coupled to the
> phonic
> energy?
> 3) Changes in angular momentum of nuclei are usually paired with emission
> of a
> gamma ray or particle to conserve angular momentum. If you want to avoid
> this,
> then you need to provide an actual physical mechanism by which the angular
> momentum is transferred to the lattice, and specifically what it is in the
> lattice that it couples to. Furthermore, what is it that makes this method
> preferable above the usual methods (e.g. gamma emission)?
> Regards,
>
>
> Robin van Spaandonk
>
> local asymmetry = temporary success
>
>

Re: [Vo]:If Mizuno is correct, this design is likely tobetheprecursor to all future devices

[mixent]

In reply to  bobcook39...@hotmail.com's message of Fri, 26 Jul 2019 02:28:29
+:
Hi Bob,
[snip]
>Robin-
>
>
>
>During NMR isomeric transitions, nuclear species are stimulated with a radio 
>frequency EM field to gain kinetic spin energy in the form of increased 
>angular momentum in small quanta of angular momentum—each quantum being equal 
>to h/2pie.  An ambient magnetic field would change the allowed states for such 
>nuclear spin energy states.
>
>Thus, change in a coherent system’s angular momentum occur in 0 or more quanta 
>of angular momentum .   However the total angular momentum must be conserved 
>just as energy is conserved in a coherent system phase change.  (The reaction 
>does not involve release of any particles with kinetic energy, including no 
>photons or neutrinos)  Only an increase of phonic lattice energy and a 
>decrease of nuclear orbital angular momentum happens associated with a 
>different meta stable or stable nuclear configuration—even ones with a 
>transmuted configuration, but withunchangedt sums of protons and neutrons.

1) What is this "coherent system", and specifically, in what respect is it
coherent, i.e. which property of the system?
2) How do you propose that the nuclear energy is actually coupled to the phonic
energy?
3) Changes in angular momentum of nuclei are usually paired with emission of a
gamma ray or particle to conserve angular momentum. If you want to avoid this,
then you need to provide an actual physical mechanism by which the angular
momentum is transferred to the lattice, and specifically what it is in the
lattice that it couples to. Furthermore, what is it that makes this method
preferable above the usual methods (e.g. gamma emission)?
Regards,


Robin van Spaandonk

local asymmetry = temporary success

Re: [Vo]:Granted patent based on hydrino

[Axil Axil]

Mentioning fusion is not smart, a disaster, and is in fact wrong. This will
get the NRC involved. A correct origin of the excess energy production is
extraction of photons from the vacuum electromagnetic field through the
action of the phonon based Bose condensate as deminstated  recently  in  an
experiment in Israel. This tech will get through the patent process since
it has been proved experimentally.

https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-stimulated-hawking-radiation-in-a-lab-analogue-of-a-black-hole



We Just Got Lab-Made Evidence of Stephen Hawking's Greatest Prediction
About Black Holes

So, cue trying to recreate it in a lab using black hole analogues. These
can be built from things that produce waves, such as fluid and sound waves
in a special tank , from
Bose-Einstein
condensates
, or
from light contained in optical fibre.

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 3:24 PM Jones Beene  wrote:

> A related reason for mentioning the recent hydrino patent being granted
> rather quickly (in contrast to cold fusion filings) is to suggest that
> something along the lines of the Mizuno device could be protected in this
> way - since nothing in his papers is suggestive of nuclear fusion; and in
> fact, the method of operation could relate more closely to the dense
> hydrogen explanation anyway. Probably too late now.
>
> In looking at my old hardbound version of Mills theory there is a table
> which shows the favored catalysts for the claimed hydrino effect - and
> palladium is there as well as nickel. Importantly, Pd is complementary to
> Ni - since it provides the first Rydberg level and nickel provides the
> deeper levels at 1/7 and 1/11.
>
> We can imagine that having Pd close to Ni allows a rapid electron
> degeneracy which continues on down to the Dirac level in a cascade of UV
> emission, somewhat but not exactly as Mills suggests. As the UV emission of
> the electrons thermalizes - these photons power the plasmons which may
> bring many atoms together into a cluster.
>
> The cluster could then reach an upper limit of charge and explode (the
> Coulomb explosion) following which, the process repeats.
>
>
> --
>
> Interesting that this patent for a hydino-based water splitter is NOT
> coming from Mills and was granted rapidly without the usual objections
> which would have arisen had it mentioned cold fusion or LENR. It also
> mentions "positive gain" which is the new code name for "overunity" which
> should probably be avoided.
>
> This granted patent should be a lesson to anyone contemplating filing - it
> is ok to mention hydrogen shrinkage or densification but not cold fusion -
> which apparently is still the kiss of death.
>
> Patent US 9 994 450 and follow-on revisions.
> https://patents.google.com/patent/US9994450B2/en?oq=US+9994450
>
> "Method and apparatus for a low cost and carbon free point of use
> dissociation of water into elemental gases and production of hydrogen
> related power" assignee Evaco Energy, LLC inventors: Edward Cole and Jack
> Evans
>
> Abstract: Devices are provided for generating a plasma field for
> dissociating water into elemental hydrogen and water. The elemental
> hydrogen may be used directly to produce power, or may be stored for use as
> an energy source or as a commodity. The devices of the present invention
> can provide on site, point of use sources for producing elemental hydrogen.
> In addition, the devices can produce a net positive energy output.
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Granted patent based on hydrino

[Jones Beene]

 A related reason for mentioning the recent hydrino patent being granted rather 
quickly (in contrast to cold fusion filings) is to suggest that something along 
the lines of the Mizuno device could be protected in this way - since nothing 
in his papers is suggestive of nuclear fusion; and in fact, the method of 
operation could relate more closely to the dense hydrogen explanation anyway. 
Probably too late now.

In looking at my old hardbound version of Mills theory there is a table which 
shows the favored catalysts for the claimed hydrino effect - and palladium is 
there as well as nickel. Importantly, Pd is complementary to Ni - since it 
provides the first Rydberg level and nickel provides the deeper levels at 1/7 
and 1/11. 

We can imagine that having Pd close to Ni allows a rapid electron degeneracy 
which continues on down to the Dirac level in a cascade of UV emission, 
somewhat but not exactly as Mills suggests. As the UV emission of the electrons 
thermalizes - these photons power the plasmons which may bring many atoms 
together into a cluster.
The cluster could then reach an upper limit of charge and explode (the Coulomb 
explosion) following which, the process repeats.


--
 
 Interesting that this patent for a hydino-based water splitter is NOT coming 
from Mills and was granted rapidly without the usual objections which would 
have arisen had it mentioned cold fusion or LENR. It also mentions "positive 
gain" which is the new code name for "overunity" which should probably be 
avoided.

This granted patent should be a lesson to anyone contemplating filing - it is 
ok to mention hydrogen shrinkage or densification but not cold fusion - which 
apparently is still the kiss of death.

Patent US 9 994 450 and follow-on revisions.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9994450B2/en?oq=US+9994450
"Method and apparatus for a low cost and carbon free point of use dissociation 
of water into elemental gases and production of hydrogen related power" 
assignee Evaco Energy, LLC inventors: Edward Cole and Jack Evans

  Abstract: Devices are provided for generating a plasma field for dissociating 
water into elemental hydrogen and water. The elemental hydrogen may be used 
directly to produce power, or may be stored for use as an energy source or as a 
commodity. The devices of the present invention can provide on site, point of 
use sources for producing elemental hydrogen. In addition, the devices can 
produce a net positive energy output. 
  

[Vo]:Granted patent based on hydrino

[Jones Beene]

Interesting that this patent for a hydino-based water splitter is NOT coming 
from Mills and was granted rapidly without the usual objections which would 
have arisen had it mentioned cold fusion or LENR. It also mentions "positive 
gain" which is the new code name for "overunity" which should probably be 
avoided.

This granted patent should be a lesson to anyone contemplating filing - it is 
ok to mention hydrogen shrinkage or densification but not cold fusion - which 
apparently is still the kiss of death.

Patent US 9 994 450 and follow-on revisions.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US9994450B2/en?oq=US+9994450
"Method and apparatus for a low cost and carbon free point of use dissociation 
of water into elemental gases and production of hydrogen related power" 
assignee Evaco Energy, LLC inventors: Edward Cole and Jack Evans

  Abstract: Devices are provided for generating a plasma field for dissociating 
water into elemental hydrogen and water. The elemental hydrogen may be used 
directly to produce power, or may be stored for use as an energy source or as a 
commodity. The devices of the present invention can provide on site, point of 
use sources for producing elemental hydrogen. In addition, the devices can 
produce a net positive energy output.