[Vo]:ECat convention (Report day 1)
Report from day 1 of the ECat Convention in Zürich Andrea Rossi presented a report by „independent parties („professors of universities and „engineers from military environments), signed by nuclear engineer Fabio Penon. All parties that participated in the report are still operating to complete their analyses and operations. The document will soon be online. Here's a few things I noted: - The classic ecat is stable at low temperature. „it has been safety certified from SGS for all Europe. But applications require hot temperatures: the „hot cat - hot cat: analysts were allowed to dismantle the whole reactor system before and after operation. Rossi said he was only a observer and did not operate the system. But Fulvio Fabiani operated the security and control systems, as the report states. - It's problematic to store hydrogen in such a system (especially if you want to receive a safety certificate). Therefore, they had to develop a storage device that takes up hydrogen and releases it at a certain temperature. - Calorimetry: infrared camera (military devp for missiles). Therefore, the reactor must be ablack body. Paint had to be developed that stays black at 1200°C and was developed with the help of a company that produces paint for fighter engines. - Convection energy was measured (with border pixels) and corrected for. - All in all, Rossi was flowing, didn't have to think what to say, told an anecdote. „the hot cat is a war ship, not a cruise ship. „I'm investing in it and I believe in this product By now the report is online: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/09/high-temperature-e-cat-report-published/ LEONARDO engineer Flavio Fabiani spoke about security and controls, (made many jokes,) and left all questions to be answered by Rossi. Also Rossi's entourage from PROMETEON srl (Italian branch) didn't answer questions. It's up to the boss and will happen today: - One Central Control Single Unit per ecat in a fat cat controls: (a) water inflow, (b) temp in exchanger (reactor), (c ) security valves, (d) pressure inside the reactor, (e) dryness of steam, (f) input voltage and amperage. The CCSUs supervise single modules and bring them down if they malfunction - All CCSUs ae LAN connected and can be internet remote controlled - A fat cat (MW1) has 90 modules, 3 of them sleeping. „sleeping modules will automatically turn on when another module turns off (eg when fault), stabilizing output There may be flaws in my report. Haiko
Re: [Vo]:ECat convention (Report day 1)
The name is Fulvio Fabiani, not Flavio Fabiani Am 09.09.2012 10:02, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de: Report from day 1 of the ECat Convention in Zürich Andrea Rossi presented a report by „independent parties („professors of universities and „engineers from military environments), signed by nuclear engineer Fabio Penon. All parties that participated in the report are still operating to complete their analyses and operations. The document will soon be online. Here's a few things I noted: - The classic ecat is stable at low temperature. „it has been safety certified from SGS for all Europe. But applications require hot temperatures: the „hot cat - hot cat: analysts were allowed to dismantle the whole reactor system before and after operation. Rossi said he was only a observer and did not operate the system. But Fulvio Fabiani operated the security and control systems, as the report states. - It's problematic to store hydrogen in such a system (especially if you want to receive a safety certificate). Therefore, they had to develop a storage device that takes up hydrogen and releases it at a certain temperature. - Calorimetry: infrared camera (military devp for missiles). Therefore, the reactor must be ablack body. Paint had to be developed that stays black at 1200°C and was developed with the help of a company that produces paint for fighter engines. - Convection energy was measured (with border pixels) and corrected for. - All in all, Rossi was flowing, didn't have to think what to say, told an anecdote. „the hot cat is a war ship, not a cruise ship. „I'm investing in it and I believe in this product By now the report is online: http://www.e-catworld.com/2012/09/high-temperature-e-cat-report-published/ LEONARDO engineer Flavio Fabiani spoke about security and controls, (made many jokes,) and left all questions to be answered by Rossi. Also Rossi's entourage from PROMETEON srl (Italian branch) didn't answer questions. It's up to the boss and will happen today: - One Central Control Single Unit per ecat in a fat cat controls: (a) water inflow, (b) temp in exchanger (reactor), (c ) security valves, (d) pressure inside the reactor, (e) dryness of steam, (f) input voltage and amperage. The CCSUs supervise single modules and bring them down if they malfunction - All CCSUs ae LAN connected and can be internet remote controlled - A fat cat (MW1) has 90 modules, 3 of them sleeping. „sleeping modules will automatically turn on when another module turns off (eg when fault), stabilizing output There may be flaws in my report. Haiko
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
the body guards are wearing bullet proof vests. and at least one of them is armed. the conference so far is of such absurdity - speculation, private anecdotes, conspiracy theory - that, if I was Rossi, I would wish I had chosen some other place to say what I want to say. Haiko Am 08.09.2012 16:19, schrieb Jed Rothwell: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
Rossi is joined by three managers from PROMETEON srl, the branch for the Italian market. They only answer quesions by email. Many engineers and companies here, most of which have been following things for only about a year. They don't care if it's explainable. If it workd they will build stirling engines and trans... The session is about to resume. Am 08.09.2012 17:04, schrieb James Bowery: It went off the air for a coffee break at 4:30 Zurich time however it has not come back on the air yet at as of a few minutes into the next presentation. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com [2] wrote: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com [2] mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
they just announced that the stream is at another url: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live but I think this is the old one. Am 08.09.2012 17:07, schrieb James Bowery: Looks like its back live now. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com [3] wrote: It went off the air for a coffee break at 4:30 Zurich time however it has not come back on the air yet at as of a few minutes into the next presentation. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com [2] wrote: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com [2] mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com [3] mailto:jabow...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
I was wrong, just one bodyguard. the strong funny guy is FLAVIO FABIANI, a LEONARDO engineer. Am 08.09.2012 22:17, schrieb Andre Blum: One of the bodyguards seems to have read up in his free time, and was able to actually present something technical today. I guess we jumped to conclusions there. Apart from that: this all seems good news. Indeed, as Uta Stechl leaked, there is a validation report by SGS. Andre On 09/08/2012 11:11 AM, h...@haikolietz.de [5] wrote: they just announced that the stream is at another url: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live [4] but I think this is the old one. Am 08.09.2012 17:07, schrieb James Bowery: Looks like its back live now. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com [3] wrote: It went off the air for a coffee break at 4:30 Zurich time however it has not come back on the air yet at as of a few minutes into the next presentation. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com [2] wrote: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com [2] mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com [3] mailto:jabow...@gmail.com [4] http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live [5] mailto:h...@haikolietz.de
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
the last session was much better. I learned that there is a German ECAT group. they visited Rossi in Bologna, Rossi operated the device, they did measurements. they are in the process of developing business plans. one can contact them for info and cooperation. http://e-cat-deutschland.de/ http://ecat-vertrieb.de/ in fall a 1MW ECAT operating in northern Italy will be made public, and it will be visitable, the German group said. Rossi is next in 90 min Haiko Am 08.09.2012 17:11, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de: they just announced that the stream is at another url: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live but I think this is the old one. Am 08.09.2012 17:07, schrieb James Bowery: Looks like its back live now. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com [3] wrote: It went off the air for a coffee break at 4:30 Zurich time however it has not come back on the air yet at as of a few minutes into the next presentation. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com [2] wrote: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com [2] mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com [3] mailto:jabow...@gmail.com
Re: [Vo]:Link to live stream from E-cat convention
correction: they were not doing own measurements and they currently hae three website, the third being: http://ecat-deutschland.org/ they are in a very early stage of getting organized Am 08.09.2012 19:10, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de: the last session was much better. I learned that there is a German ECAT group. they visited Rossi in Bologna, Rossi operated the device, they did measurements. they are in the process of developing business plans. one can contact them for info and cooperation. http://e-cat-deutschland.de/ http://ecat-vertrieb.de/ in fall a 1MW ECAT operating in northern Italy will be made public, and it will be visitable, the German group said. Rossi is next in 90 min Haiko Am 08.09.2012 17:11, schrieb h...@haikolietz.de: they just announced that the stream is at another url: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/z%C3%BCrich-09-2012-live but I think this is the old one. Am 08.09.2012 17:07, schrieb James Bowery: Looks like its back live now. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 10:04 AM, James Bowery jabow...@gmail.com [3] wrote: It went off the air for a coffee break at 4:30 Zurich time however it has not come back on the air yet at as of a few minutes into the next presentation. On Sat, Sep 8, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com [2] wrote: Patrick Ellul ellulpatr...@gmail.com [1] wrote Rossi just joined and came into the picture, accompanied by two massive bodyguards. That's astounding. I wish I had the movie rights to Rossi. He never ceases to amaze. I cannot link to this at all, for some reason. After it finishes, I hope that someone here takes the trouble to tell the rest of us what happened. - Jed Links: -- [1] mailto:ellulpatr...@gmail.com [2] mailto:jedrothw...@gmail.com [3] mailto:jabow...@gmail.com
