[Vo]:A new and baffling Rossi said
1. Italo A. Albanese December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155669 Dear Andrea Rossi, could you provide some more information about the e-cat heating your factory? Power, cop, running time, temperatures? It would be interesting to have, if not a webcam, a continuous log of these measures. Best regards, merry Christmas and happy new year. (If you’ll have a great 2012, the world will be a better place) 2. Andrea Rossi December 24th, 2011 at 3:58 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155875 Dear Italo A. Albanese: It is a standard E-Cat module making 10 kWh/h. We make also tests of new materials, in a productive area where we make works we want not to give trace of. Anyway we are thinking to this, also if it is not very interesting: the clowns, specialized in moke ups, can make the same with the usual empty box. There is nothing that could be useful in such operation, because you can make a moke up , video it, put the numbers you want, so what? Initially I thought it could be nice, but, thinking to the clowns that will make a similar moke up and take credit from it, I decided to cancel. Only working plants in the market will give evidence of the difference between words and facts. Warm Regards, A.R. http://www.rossilivecat.com/ Can anyone translate from Rossi to English? What is a moke up (mockup?) got to do with clowns? Which clowns, in this case? Is that a reference to Defkalion's claims? If not, to what? Is this sort of blogging compatible with a desire to keep a low profile? This guy is more cryptic than the Oracle at Delphi.
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First - Merry Christmas to you and to all colleagues on the Web now. The message of Andrea Rossi is clear; - if he shows us the heater used in his building, the competition will instal fake heaters and also show them as if they give heat. Hostile, deceiving imitation. Dictionary Rossi slang to English: - snake- enemy; - clown- competition - puppet- spy; puppeteer- easy to guess = SNAKE - moke up is simply mockery On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Italo A. Albanese December 23rd, 2011 at 7:46 PMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155669 Dear Andrea Rossi, could you provide some more information about the e-cat heating your factory? Power, cop, running time, temperatures? It would be interesting to have, if not a webcam, a continuous log of these measures. Best regards, merry Christmas and happy new year. (If you’ll have a great 2012, the world will be a better place) 2. Andrea Rossi December 24th, 2011 at 3:58 AMhttp://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=39#comment-155875 Dear Italo A. Albanese: It is a standard E-Cat module making 10 kWh/h. We make also tests of new materials, in a productive area where we make works we want not to give trace of. Anyway we are thinking to this, also if it is not very interesting: the clowns, specialized in moke ups, can make the same with the usual empty box. There is nothing that could be useful in such operation, because you can make a moke up , video it, put the numbers you want, so what? Initially I thought it could be nice, but, thinking to the clowns that will make a similar moke up and take credit from it, I decided to cancel. Only working plants in the market will give evidence of the difference between words and facts. Warm Regards, A.R. http://www.rossilivecat.com/ Can anyone translate from Rossi to English? What is a moke up (mockup?) got to do with clowns? Which clowns, in this case? Is that a reference to Defkalion's claims? If not, to what? Is this sort of blogging compatible with a desire to keep a low profile? This guy is more cryptic than the Oracle at Delphi. -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling Rossi said
I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that. - Jed
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On 24 December 2011 19:35, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. But moke up is more cute word... Anyways this really shows Rossi's intent that he publicly does not give even a remote sense of trust but is trying actively to get people go away and leave him alone. Because of this madness of Rossi I lost 40 euros. We had a bet some half year ago that by the end of the year, we have definitive and unconditional proof for the technology. I lost my precious money, because Rossi did not render money irrelevant soon enough. –Jouni
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that. Yes, as I noted, what moke up means is no mystery. So what does the remainder of the gobbledygook mean? Is Rossi writing about what he expects Defkalion to do? What they did? What? Another hallmark of a scam is that the perpetrators act as if the discovery was not as important as it really would be if it were real. For example, Steorn supposedly discovered a mysterious magnetic interaction that resulted in motors that ran themselves, overcoming friction, and providing free energy beyond that. But how would a normal person or company act if in possession of such a wonder? Wouldn't they be extremely active in developing and showing and proving the idea? Would they not rapidly enlist patent lawyers by the dozens? Would they not have the concept proven and developed in the largest, best and most effective places? But none of that ever happened with Steorn. All they ever did was give demos that were underwhelming and obscure enough so that enthusiasts could interpret them as success. But they never were. And there was never any progress and still isn't. And all their customers, if there were any, were anonymous. They gave away only one device (I'm not even clear that they really ever did that-- it's sort of a vague recollection at this point) and the recipient said he couldn't make it work. Their most prominent point of contact was their forum and what did they do there? They responded tangentially, incompetently, and weirdly. At the same time, they attacked their most reasonable critics with sarcasm and threatened to (or actually did) ban them. They threatened and never brought law suits for libel. This is precisely Defkalion's behavior currently. In the area of demonstrations, lectures, and the like, everything with Steorn progressed at a snail pace and none of the activity was appropriate to the uniqueness and grandeur of the discovery, had it been real. Proponents defended Steorn, postulating that they were concerned about someone stealing the technology. Sound familiar? This is exactly the pattern Rossi is following. If Rossi really had a cold fusion reactor on his table top and was using it to provide continuous heating for even one room of his factory, why would he not show it? Why instead would he have done four hour inadequate demos when he now has a SECOND factory heater that runs CONTINUOUSLY!? And if the excuse is that he is keeping a low profile, why does he mention these things AT ALL? None of this makes sense. Not Rossi and not Defkalion. And when things don't add up, you'd better think maybe you're being flummoxed.
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On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Jouni Valkonen jounivalko...@gmail.comwrote: Because of this madness of Rossi I lost 40 euros. We had a bet some half year ago that by the end of the year, we have definitive and unconditional proof for the technology. I lost my precious money, because Rossi did not render money irrelevant soon enough. I will give you the opportunity to lose 100 more. I will give you ten to one odds on a hundred Euros that we will not have unconditional proof a year from now. If you lose, you donate a hundred Euros to your favorite non profit charitable foundation. If you win, I donate 1000 to my favorite one. Maybe we should both donate to charities which help children with cancer. It doesn't look as if Rossi is about to keep his promise to do so. Done?
Re: [Vo]:A new and baffling \Rossi said\
Peter, I think by moke up he means mock up, a nonfunctional model or program to help visualize an end item. Fran
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The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology. In winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted in the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were attached to nothing. That's just me. On Dec 24, 2011, at 12:57, Mary Yugo maryyu...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 9:35 AM, Jed Rothwell jedrothw...@gmail.com wrote: I believe moke up is supposed to be mock-up. I just told Andrea that. Yes, as I noted, what moke up means is no mystery. So what does the remainder of the gobbledygook mean? Is Rossi writing about what he expects Defkalion to do? What they did? What? Another hallmark of a scam is that the perpetrators act as if the discovery was not as important as it really would be if it were real. For example, Steorn supposedly discovered a mysterious magnetic interaction that resulted in motors that ran themselves, overcoming friction, and providing free energy beyond that. But how would a normal person or company act if in possession of such a wonder? Wouldn't they be extremely active in developing and showing and proving the idea? Would they not rapidly enlist patent lawyers by the dozens? Would they not have the concept proven and developed in the largest, best and most effective places? But none of that ever happened with Steorn. All they ever did was give demos that were underwhelming and obscure enough so that enthusiasts could interpret them as success. But they never were. And there was never any progress and still isn't. And all their customers, if there were any, were anonymous. They gave away only one device (I'm not even clear that they really ever did that-- it's sort of a vague recollection at this point) and the recipient said he couldn't make it work. Their most prominent point of contact was their forum and what did they do there? They responded tangentially, incompetently, and weirdly. At the same time, they attacked their most reasonable critics with sarcasm and threatened to (or actually did) ban them. They threatened and never brought law suits for libel. This is precisely Defkalion's behavior currently. In the area of demonstrations, lectures, and the like, everything with Steorn progressed at a snail pace and none of the activity was appropriate to the uniqueness and grandeur of the discovery, had it been real. Proponents defended Steorn, postulating that they were concerned about someone stealing the technology. Sound familiar? This is exactly the pattern Rossi is following. If Rossi really had a cold fusion reactor on his table top and was using it to provide continuous heating for even one room of his factory, why would he not show it? Why instead would he have done four hour inadequate demos when he now has a SECOND factory heater that runs CONTINUOUSLY!? And if the excuse is that he is keeping a low profile, why does he mention these things AT ALL? None of this makes sense. Not Rossi and not Defkalion. And when things don't add up, you'd better think maybe you're being flummoxed.
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In reply to Charles Hope's message of Sat, 24 Dec 2011 17:21:53 -0500: Hi, [snip] The very first act I'd do is run my own home and office from the technology. In winter the windows would be wide open to enjoy the fresh air as we roasted in the balmy heat pouring from my heaters that were attached to nothing. That's just me. Then at least install a heat exchanger. ;) Regards, Robin van Spaandonk http://rvanspaa.freehostia.com/project.html
