[Vo]:RFG ?
Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
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I think there is no RFG requirement specifically but that Resonance/energizing is probably sensitive to different types of EMR such as radio waves, microwaves, infrared, optical, ultraviolet, X-rays, and gamma-rays. Seems like DGT is using a combination of IR at a given operating temp and maybe oscillating current/voltage in the second heating/sustain phase. NASA appers to be looking at laser/optical as a form of excitement On Friday, January 27, 2012, mar...@krteknik.com wrote: Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
RE: [Vo]:RFG ?
Marten, One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones -Original Message- From: mar...@krteknik.com Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
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Yup On Friday, January 27, 2012, Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net wrote: Marten, One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones -Original Message- From: mar...@krteknik.com Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
RE: [Vo]:RFG ?
Marten, One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones Jones, for those of us who want to replicate Rossi, how does one go about building such a RF antenna? Any schematic or drawing. Any suggestions on frequency and power requirement as well as how to integrate it into the reactor design. You physicists tell us engineers how to build it and we will build it and try to replicate Rossi. Any suggestions and guidelines pointing us in the right direction will help a lot in coming up with a viable design. Jojo
[Vo]:Ang.: [Vo]:RFG ?
Hello Yup Did not think of that. Marten Skickat från min HTC - Reply message - Från: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Till: vortex-l@eskimo.com Rubrik: [Vo]:RFG ? Datum: fre, jan 27, 2012 14:54 Marten, One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones -Original Message- From: mar...@krteknik.com Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
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One other point about RF stimulation, argon, near-UV light, and achieving continuity in the flow of excess energy from Ni-H reactors. If you have followed the foundation theory and work of Randell Mills with Ni-H then you are aware that argon is one of his catalysts - having orbitals with ionization potential that correspond to multiples of the Rydberg value (27.2 eV). This is the all important energy value - the key to Ni-H which connects theory to practical implementation. (in one view). UV light at the low end of the blacklight spectrum can have energy levels at harmonics of 3.4 eV and 6.8 eV - and thus are a whole fractional level of Rydberg energy (harmonic). That would indicate that these photons could be catalytic for stimulating a Thermal reaction with Ni-H at a higher harmonic. It is almost impossible to produce UV efficiently at the full value of 27.2 eV for a number of technical reasons. Argon can be stimulated with a few watts of noisy RF to emit 3.4 eV photons in massive amounts. A simple RF generator to accomplish this costs almost nothing, resembles a Tesla coil, and could be enclosed in the reactor itself or the control box, with RF fed through a coax. Pictures of the Rossi reactor show what appear to be coax connectors. No one has ever been able to account for all or the leads in the reactor some of which are hidden during demos. The first time the Rossi's RFG was shown in public, it actually had a piece of tape with a hand written label in English: Tesla Coil. Later he combine the RFG into the control box. Most importantly - we hear recently that Celani is actually using argon with hydrogen in his version of Ni-H. Why? Well Celani knows of Mills' work, of course, but Celani also has many associates at UB, who are associates of Rossi. Celani he has been involved in this technology for a decade before Rossi burst on the scene. Celani is also a very charming man, with many friends on both sides of the Atlantic. He did not suddenly dream-up out of the blue, so to speak, the wild idea of using argon/hydrogen mixed, like Mills uses. Connect the dots. Jones One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones
RE: [Vo]:RFG ?
From: Jojo Jaro * Any suggestions and guidelines pointing us in the right direction will help a lot in coming up with a viable design. Jojo, I see now that an important YouTube video reference, from the same guy who provided the blue light one, was glossed-over on vortex yesterday, and not discussed like it was elsewhere. It is this one, but there could be others that are helpful - as I have not had time to look at all of them from the same person: http://www.youtube.com/user/magnetvortex#p/u/4/bI7f6E2R_VA This video should not only answer your questions about what is going on with the blue light circuitry (which he cannibalized from a plasma globe) but could suggest how to cheaply built a larger unit-even to beef it up to perhaps 50 watts or so, which is supposedly what Rossi's RF coil is drawing. I doubt that the particular weird coil design being used (the unpronounceable name that starts with Kappa) is necessary, but hey - why not? It does not look like rocket science to wind it. If only Rossi could be trusted about the 50 watts ! Jones attachment: winmail.dat
[Vo]:Ang.: [Vo]:RFG ?
Tes, Im connecting, and it makes a nice picture, nickel, argone, dirty harmonics and some h2 and we have liftoff :) Pun intended Skickat från min HTC - Reply message - Från: Jones Beene jone...@pacbell.net Till: vortex-l@eskimo.com Rubrik: [Vo]:RFG ? Datum: fre, jan 27, 2012 15:34 One other point about RF stimulation, argon, near-UV light, and achieving continuity in the flow of excess energy from Ni-H reactors. If you have followed the foundation theory and work of Randell Mills with Ni-H then you are aware that argon is one of his catalysts - having orbitals with ionization potential that correspond to multiples of the Rydberg value (27.2 eV). This is the all important energy value - the key to Ni-H which connects theory to practical implementation. (in one view). UV light at the low end of the blacklight spectrum can have energy levels at harmonics of 3.4 eV and 6.8 eV - and thus are a whole fractional level of Rydberg energy (harmonic). That would indicate that these photons could be catalytic for stimulating a Thermal reaction with Ni-H at a higher harmonic. It is almost impossible to produce UV efficiently at the full value of 27.2 eV for a number of technical reasons. Argon can be stimulated with a few watts of noisy RF to emit 3.4 eV photons in massive amounts. A simple RF generator to accomplish this costs almost nothing, resembles a Tesla coil, and could be enclosed in the reactor itself or the control box, with RF fed through a coax. Pictures of the Rossi reactor show what appear to be coax connectors. No one has ever been able to account for all or the leads in the reactor some of which are hidden during demos. The first time the Rossi's RFG was shown in public, it actually had a piece of tape with a hand written label in English: Tesla Coil. Later he combine the RFG into the control box. Most importantly - we hear recently that Celani is actually using argon with hydrogen in his version of Ni-H. Why? Well Celani knows of Mills' work, of course, but Celani also has many associates at UB, who are associates of Rossi. Celani he has been involved in this technology for a decade before Rossi burst on the scene. Celani is also a very charming man, with many friends on both sides of the Atlantic. He did not suddenly dream-up out of the blue, so to speak, the wild idea of using argon/hydrogen mixed, like Mills uses. Connect the dots. Jones One of the reasons for posting the blue vortex video yesterday was to show how a single wire can provide adequate RF as a stimulus. The key feature of this is a spark gap which can be internal or external. Spark gaps are not very sensitive to heat. The blue light emission from the bulb is coherent enough to show that a single spark gap diode, combined with a coil (variation of Tesla coil) can provide RF which is capable of ionizing a noble gas. You do not need precision waves or lots of circuitry for this task - nor any kind of adjustment capability. What is needed only is a special kind of irradiation spectrum, which corresponds to a blackbody emission characteristic which you want to stimulate in that active material. In the case of Rossi, he likely need near UV not too different from the bulb. Thus the simplicity. Stimulation by RF to attain QM superradiance does not require high power. The light bulb shown was powered with a few watts. Get it? Jones
Re: [Vo]:RFG ?
Maybe he is using the RF to excite an ultrasonic Piezo transducer attached to his core to vibrate the powder. Ron --On Friday, January 27, 2012 5:31 AM -0700 mar...@krteknik.com wrote: Hello guys I would like your opinion on the rfg subject. If Rossi is using a rfg to somehow stimulate the reaction, how has he applied it ? I cant see any wires going into the reactor core on any pictures, except for the heater that is wrapped around it. And .. if the coil is fitted in the center of the core, it must be able to withstand 500c, and should therefore be mounted in a metal tube, like copper, and the amount of rf going in the reactor must not me very high, due to the skin effect right ? An rossi aint using much watts for the electronics according to mats lewans report, if i remember it right. So how is he doing it ? Any ideas ? Im going to try it myself, but i have no good solution for it exept using a induction heater of sorts, but Rossi cant be using anything like it due to cost, and power drain, so it must be done by other means. p.s sorry for my english, im not a native english speaker . :) Marten
