RE: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint]

>From my reading of the actual letters between him and colleagues at various
universities, I think he has good reason to be angry... but like he said
later in life, the scientists who basically 'blacklisted' him in the
academic world actually did him a favor; he was able to find very competent
mathematicians and physicists to help develop his theories, and eventually
he made more $ by pitching his work to the commercial sector; capitalism to
the rescue.  That first Volume contains more than 100 letters, and I can't
remember one that was disrespectful or angry.  His letters were sincere and
respectful, even to those who he felt wronged him, but that only was up to
1984.  I suspect that his attitude changed after 20+ years of being
blacklisted.  He really had to fight back, and he chose to use the legal
system.  Effective, but probably caused even more resentment and a
'perception' that he was 'crazy', which has only hampered his efforts to
gain respect for his work.

>From what I've read so far, karma worked in this case... or at least to his
side; I think Santilli is still waiting for Weinberg and others to get
theirs.

-Mark

-Original Message-
From: Harry Veeder [mailto:hveeder...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 12:12 PM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

Sorry I was mislead by my cynicism. Santilli is sincere and credentialed.
I guess he became litigious after having to endure the label fringe
scientist for years.
The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead.

Harry

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a 
> better model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>
>
>
> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>
>
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org
>
>
>
> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>
>
>
> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:
>
>
>
> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
>
> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory 
> board I have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started 
> but Gene was
>
> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>
> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules. 
> (1998
> - )
>
> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha 
wrote:
>
> I just noticed this:
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
>
>
>
> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a 
> novel type of bond called a "magnecular bond", which he claims 
> consists of atoms held together by magnetic fields which arise from 
> toroidal polarization of their electron orbitals.[14][15] "
>
>
>
> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific 
> ideas[23]. These include suing several journals, including Infinite 
> Energy, to force them to cite his work, "
>
>
>
> Did he sue Horace?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
>
> Cluj, Romania
>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Peter Gluck]

Dear Harry,

Santilli had a dispute re Theory with an other Italian
scientist (Corso, if I remember well) and Infinite Energy was transformed
in an arena of fight. The subject was only tangential to cold fusion and
Gene has stopped the publication of this polemics. This was the cause of
the lawsuit. It has happened in 1998 and 1999. Nasty, nothing to do with
the opppression of Santilli.
If you want to know what is doing Santilli now please search for
"MagneGas".The way from Aquafuel to Magnegas was very tortuous.Ther was
also a company called Earthfirst Technologies that went bankrupt in 2008.

Really not much to do with our area of interest.
Peter


On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Harry Veeder  wrote:

> Sorry I was mislead by my cynicism. Santilli is sincere and credentialed.
> I guess he became litigious after having to endure the label fringe
> scientist for years.
> The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead.
>
> Harry
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
>  wrote:
> > Hi Peter,
> >
> > Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
> > model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
> >
> >
> >
> > His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.scientificethics.org
> >
> >
> >
> > particularly with World Scientific, this page:
> >
> > http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
> >
> >
> >
> > -Mark
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
> >
> >
> >
> > I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:
> >
> >
> >
> > "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
> >
> > A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
> > have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
> >
> > very upset and stressed by this affair.
> >
> > An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules.
> (1998
> > - )
> >
> > However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
> >
> >
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed this:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
> >
> >
> >
> > " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
> > type of bond called a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of
> atoms
> > held together by magnetic fields which arise from toroidal polarization
> of
> > their electron orbitals.[14][15] "
> >
> >
> >
> > "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific
> > ideas[23]. These include suing several journals, including Infinite
> Energy,
> > to force them to cite his work, "
> >
> >
> >
> > Did he sue Horace?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Rocha - RJ
> >
> > danieldi...@gmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Dr. Peter Gluck
> >
> > Cluj, Romania
> >
> > http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
> >
> >
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Harry Veeder]

Snubbed by mainstream, scrappy scientist sues
The Palm Harbor man wants the courts to force his detractors to take
his ideas seriously.
By CARRIE WEIMAR
Published May 9, 2007

TAMPA - Ruggero Santilli is frustrated.

After a long career as an academic, the Palm Harbor physicist says he
isn't getting the respect he deserves...

http://www.sptimes.com/2007/05/09/Hillsborough/Snubbed_by_mainstream.shtml

Harry




On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
> model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>
>
>
> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>
>
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org
>
>
>
> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>
>
>
> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:
>
>
>
> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
>
> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
> have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
>
> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>
> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules. (1998
> - )
>
> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:
>
> I just noticed this:
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
>
>
>
> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
> type of bond called a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms
> held together by magnetic fields which arise from toroidal polarization of
> their electron orbitals.[14][15] "
>
>
>
> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific
> ideas[23]. These include suing several journals, including Infinite Energy,
> to force them to cite his work, "
>
>
>
> Did he sue Horace?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
>
> Cluj, Romania
>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Harry Veeder]

Sorry I was mislead by my cynicism. Santilli is sincere and credentialed.
I guess he became litigious after having to endure the label fringe
scientist for years.
The link to his complaint against Infinite Energy is dead.

Harry

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 8:24 AM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint
 wrote:
> Hi Peter,
>
> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
> model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>
>
>
> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>
>
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org
>
>
>
> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>
>
>
> -Mark
>
>
>
> From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
> To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>
>
>
> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:
>
>
>
> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
>
> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
> have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
>
> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>
> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules. (1998
> - )
>
> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>
>
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:
>
> I just noticed this:
>
>
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
>
>
>
> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
> type of bond called a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms
> held together by magnetic fields which arise from toroidal polarization of
> their electron orbitals.[14][15] "
>
>
>
> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific
> ideas[23]. These include suing several journals, including Infinite Energy,
> to force them to cite his work, "
>
>
>
> Did he sue Horace?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
>
> Cluj, Romania
>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Jed Rothwell]

Peter Gluck  wrote:

"See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
> have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>

It was awful. One of the many trials and tribulations Gene had to bear. I
don't know much about it.

I have never encountered Santilli. Never heard from him. I hope I never
do! He has not sent me a paper for LENR-CANR.org. I wouldn't think of
responding or uploading it if he did! He's crazy.

- Jed

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Peter Gluck]

His model is on his website and in many other Web places . Horace can
answer you re this similarity issue.
Peter

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:54 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:

> I don't know his model. But the idea is extremely similar to Horace's...
>
>
> 2012/1/13 Peter Gluck 
>
>> Dera Mark,
>>
>> after so many years the memories are nor unpleasant, just interesting.
>> His model had no success but he has his supporters. His magnecules are not
>> used anywhere, as far as I know.
>> He is (was) (could be) a very nice person..Cultured.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
>> zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Peter,
>>>
>>> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, **IF** he has a
>>> better model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> http://www.scientificethics.org
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>>>
>>> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> -Mark
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *From:* Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
>>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:  
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli ***
>>> *
>>>
>>> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board
>>> I have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
>>> 
>>>
>>> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>>>
>>> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules.
>>> (1998 - )
>>>
>>> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I just noticed this:
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a
>>> novel type of bond <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_bond> called
>>> a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by 
>>> magnetic
>>> fields <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> which arise from
>>> toroidal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal> polarization of their 
>>> electron
>>> orbitals 
>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_orbital>.[14]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-ijh-13>
>>> [15] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-14> "
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific ideas
>>> [23] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-22>.
>>> These include suing several journals, including Infinite 
>>> Energy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy>,
>>> to force them to cite his work, "
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> Did he sue Horace?
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>>>
>>> danieldi...@gmail.com
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>>
>>> Cluj, Romania
>>>
>>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>> Cluj, Romania
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Daniel Rocha]

I don't know his model. But the idea is extremely similar to Horace's...

2012/1/13 Peter Gluck 

> Dera Mark,
>
> after so many years the memories are nor unpleasant, just interesting. His
> model had no success but he has his supporters. His magnecules are not used
> anywhere, as far as I know.
> He is (was) (could be) a very nice person..Cultured.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
> zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter,
>>
>> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, **IF** he has a
>> better model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> http://www.scientificethics.org
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>>
>> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> -Mark****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *From:* Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
>> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:  
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli 
>>
>> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
>> have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
>> 
>>
>> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>>
>> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules.
>> (1998 - )
>>
>> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Peter
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I just noticed this:
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a
>> novel type of bond <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_bond> called
>> a "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by 
>> magnetic
>> fields <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> which arise from
>> toroidal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal> polarization of their 
>> electron
>> orbitals 
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_orbital>.[14]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-ijh-13>
>> [15] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-14> "
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific ideas
>> [23] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-22>. These
>> include suing several journals, including Infinite 
>> Energy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy>,
>> to force them to cite his work, "
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Did he sue Horace?
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> --
>> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>>
>> danieldi...@gmail.com
>>
>> ** **
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> --
>> Dr. Peter Gluck
>>
>> Cluj, Romania
>>
>> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>>
>> ** **
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
> Cluj, Romania
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
>


-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Peter Gluck]

Dera Mark,

after so many years the memories are nor unpleasant, just interesting. His
model had no success but he has his supporters. His magnecules are not used
anywhere, as far as I know.
He is (was) (could be) a very nice person..Cultured.

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 3:24 PM, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint <
zeropo...@charter.net> wrote:

> Hi Peter,
>
> Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, **IF** he has a better
> model for hadrons, should he not get credit?
>
> ** **
>
> His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org
>
> ** **
>
> particularly with World Scientific, this page:
>
> http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm
>
> ** **
>
> -Mark
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?
>
> ** **
>
> I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:  
>
> ** **
>
> "See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli 
>
> A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
> have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was*
> ***
>
> very upset and stressed by this affair.
>
> An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules.
> (1998 - )
>
> However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."
>
> ** **
>
> Peter
>
> ** **
>
> On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha 
> wrote:
>
> I just noticed this:
>
> ** **
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill 
>
> ** **
>
> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
> type of bond <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_bond> called a
> "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by magnetic
> fields <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> which arise from
> toroidal <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal> polarization of their 
> electron
> orbitals 
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_orbital>.[14]<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-ijh-13>
> [15] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-14> "
>
> ** **
>
> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific ideas
> [23] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-22>. These
> include suing several journals, including Infinite 
> Energy<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy>,
> to force them to cite his work, "
>
> ** **
>
> Did he sue Horace?
>
> ** **
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
>
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
> ** **
>
>
>
> 
>
> ** **
>
> --
> Dr. Peter Gluck
>
> Cluj, Romania
>
> http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
>
> ** **
>



-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

RE: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint]

Hi Peter,

Sorry to dig up old, unpleasant memories, however, *IF* he has a better
model for hadrons, should he not get credit?

 

His side of the issue with scientific journals is explained here:

 

http://www.scientificethics.org

 

particularly with World Scientific, this page:

http://www.scientificethics.org/ir8.htm

 

-Mark

 

From: Peter Gluck [mailto:peter.gl...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2012 4:59 AM
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Subject: Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

 

I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:  

 

"See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli 

A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was

very upset and stressed by this affair.

An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules. (1998
- )

However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."

 

Peter

 

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:

I just noticed this:

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill 

 

" Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
type of  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molecular_bond> bond called a
"magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetic_field> magnetic fields which arise
from  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toroidal> toroidal polarization of their
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electron_orbital> electron orbitals.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-ijh-13> [14]
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-14> [15] "

 

"Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific ideas
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli#cite_note-22> [23]. These
include suing several journals, including
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infinite_Energy> Infinite Energy, to force
them to cite his work, "

 

Did he sue Horace?

 




 

-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ

danieldi...@gmail.com

 





 

-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck

Cluj, Romania

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

 

Re: [Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Peter Gluck]

I commented in other thread- he has sued me and many others:

"See "Lawsuits" here:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santilli
A very ugly story- I remember that being a member of the advisory board I
have had to pay 12,000 USD fine. The lawsuit did not started but Gene was
very upset and stressed by this affair.
An even uglier story- Richardson's  AQUAFUEL, Leon Toups, magnecules. (1998
- )
However Ruggero is a great mathematician, beyond any doubt."

Peter

On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 1:59 PM, Daniel Rocha  wrote:

> I just noticed this:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill
>
> " Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
> type of bond  called a
> "magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by magnetic
> fields  which arise from
> toroidal  polarization of their 
> electron
> orbitals 
> .[14]
> [15]  "
>
> "Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific ideas
> [23] . These
> include suing several journals, including Infinite 
> Energy,
> to force them to cite his work, "
>
> Did he sue Horace?
>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Rocha - RJ
> danieldi...@gmail.com
>
>


-- 
Dr. Peter Gluck
Cluj, Romania
http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com

[Vo]:Santilli and Horace?

[Daniel Rocha]

I just noticed this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruggero_Santill

" Santilli, distinguished from better-known species by containing a novel
type of bond  called a
"magnecular bond", which he claims consists of atoms held together by magnetic
fields  which arise from
toroidal  polarization of their electron
orbitals 
.[14]
[15]  "

"Santilli has filed a number of lawsuits related to his scientific
ideas[23].
These include suing several journals, including Infinite
Energy,
to force them to cite his work, "

Did he sue Horace?



-- 
Daniel Rocha - RJ
danieldi...@gmail.com