Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com
On 2011-10-11 02:53, Jed Rothwell wrote: This link goes to Kleiner Perkins for some strange reason. Weird! This is the correct URL: http://ecat.com/ Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:New video on ecat.com
On 2011-10-11 02:45, Daniel Rocha wrote: http://www.ecat.com (corrected) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhvD4KuAEmo Some videos and interviews on the 6th October demo. The video has been professionally done and contains original footage and interviews. So this ecat.com domain must be something official. I didn't expect this. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stremmenos from Defkalion GT
Hello group, The subject of this email says it all. Have a read at this open letter to Christos Stremmenos written by Alexandros Xanthoulis, Defkalion GT CEO: http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=297 An English translation of Stremmenos' message to Defkalion GT appeared on JONP is supposed to be posted soon on NyTeknik. This is his original message in Italian mixed with some English: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=360cpage=23#comment-94994 Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:More drama: open letter to Christos Stremmenos from Defkalion GT
On 2011-10-12 18:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote: An English translation of Stremmenos' message to Defkalion GT appeared on JONP is supposed to be posted soon on NyTeknik. A translation has been posted today on 22passi instead: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/stremmenos-stance-on-defkalion-gts-10.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Pictures/Videos on Focus.it
On 2011-10-14 23:00, Michele Comitini wrote: this video would be interesting if it were in higher resolution If you zoom the page with your browser's zoom controls (usually CTRL + +) you will see that the video has a larger resolution than it would seem. Even better, you could inspect the HTML source and copy/paste the .swf video animation URL into your browser address bar :) The same trick works for other videos too, just replace the filename accordingly. http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0001.swf Here are all other URLs for everybody's convenience: http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0002.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0003.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0004.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0005.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0006.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0007.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0008.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0009.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0019.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0020.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0021.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0023.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_0024.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9909.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9916.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9921.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9981.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9997.swf http://www.focus.it/fileflash/energia/fusioneFredda/ecat/anteprime/original/MVI_9998.swf Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:New articles on the September 6th E-Cat test
Hello group, NyTeknik and Focus.it today published several additional analyses on the September 6th E-Cat Test. - NyTeknik (in English) By Horace Heffner, David Roberson, Robert J. Higgins http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3295411.ece - Focus.it (in Italian) By prof. Christos Stremmenos http://www.focus.it/scienza/e-cat-test-6102011-la-relazione-di-christos-stremmenos_C12.aspx Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini
Hello group, For everybody's interest, it looks like Daniele Passerini (22passi) is going to post regular updates to his Twitter account regarding the 1MW E-Cat test supposed to be held today in Bologna: http://twitter.com/#!/22passi Alternate URL: http://yfrog.com/user/22passi/profile Whether he will be able to post detailed information or not, however, it's not known yet. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Live Twitter feed by Passerini
On 2011-10-28 15:27, Terry Blanton wrote: and the Old Grey Lady. With NyT, he meant NyTeknik. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ideal client
On 2011-10-28 20:26, Peter Gluck wrote: Stirling Allan reports: *QA just finished; reading of results; 470 kW maintained continuously during * *self-sustain; customer satisfied; sale made; more later.* I definitely like this client! Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user (who appears to be truthful), translated in English by me. I think he mistook kW and MW with kWh and MWh: * * * I'm back from Via dell'Elettricista [Rossi's factory location in Bologna]. What Sterling Allan says is what Rossi said during the press conference, so it's the truth, for what it's worth. I can confirm that steam couldn't be seen as it was being condensed. Measurements should have been done by a certain engineer Fioravanti (I believe on behalf of the very important customer). Not everything went well (the usual [leaking] gaskets, the self-sustaining reaction that was in danger of runaway, etc), but 470kWh (even if not 1 MWh) without input power (excluding that of water pumps) couldn't leave room for doubts. Rossi will send a report (written by the customer's consultants) to the attendees, but he's already read it aloud entirely during the press conference in both Italian/English versions. There were many Swedes. Stremmenos, Levi, Ferrari were quite serene and attentive. Anyhow, either everybody made arrangements [to fake a succesful test] or it's all true. * * * Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ideal client
On 2011-10-28 21:52, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Interesting comment on 22passi blog by an unidentified user (who appears to be truthful), translated in English by me. I think he mistook kW and MW with kWh and MWh: More interestingly, the same user is also reporting that during the press conference Rossi claimed to have obtained all necessary permissions in order to perform the 1MW E-Cat test. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ideal client
On 2011-10-28 23:15, Peter Heckert wrote: The problem is, the heat must be dissipated or stored somewhere. Even at 470kW this cannot been done easily. How was this done? Has nobody seen something. Where there big ventilators running? Another 22passi user who was there mentions there were six large (1.5x1.5 meters) heat exchangers with approximately 1 meter wide cooling fans. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event
Hello group, This is from PESN. Great video quality: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sZHOQ6P-Rw Possibly more coming soon. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ideal client
On 2011-10-28 23:56, Jed Rothwell wrote: Ah! Finally some technical details. That sounds good. Six large heat exchangers sounds like what you would need. Where did you read that? URL please! I read it in one of the latest comments of 22passi Blog user nemo here: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/bologna-28-ottobre-2011-spazio-per-i.html User sono solo un test added interesting tidbits as well (in Italian). Anyway, we'll see much more information soon. Daniele Passerini said in his last comment in the URL above that (essentially) the news embargo has ended (literally, that the AP exclusive ended at midnight, Italian time). Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet
On 2011-10-29 00:23, Sean True wrote: have been posted on Rossi's blog (JONP). Download link in ZIP format: http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Photos of test report and a spreadsheet
On 2011-10-29 01:25, Michele Comitini wrote: Take a close look at the dashed words at page 3. You can find the 2 parties involved. One the second one is readable and easy guessing : Leonardocorp. Yes: Leonardo Corporation is the seller, as clearly stated on page 1. Now, as for the customer... Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event
On 2011-10-28 23:41, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Possibly more coming soon. Two more videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGvsuAYLbnA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLAdGduQ50A Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Spreadsheet author is Manutencoop Facility Management
On 2011-10-29 02:25, Jed Rothwell wrote: An Observant Person points out that the excel spreadsheet found here: http://db.tt/wu4OLbgk . . . has Properties is set to: Manutencoop Facility Management Could this be a hint? This likely means that the Excel copy they have is pirated or that it is property of Manutencoop worker cooperative. It's common practice in Italy for small businesses to hire personnel for temporary employment from worker cooperatives. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Spreadsheet author is Manutencoop Facility Management
On 2011-10-29 02:34, Akira Shirakawa wrote: This likely means that the Excel copy they have is pirated or that it is property of Manutencoop worker cooperative. It's common practice in Italy for small businesses to hire personnel for temporary employment from worker cooperatives. By the way, this might probably not be the exact case for Rossi (Manutencoop does not appear to be a worker cooperative), but you should get what I mean. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Spreadsheet author is Manutencoop Facility Management
On 2011-10-29 02:48, Jed Rothwell wrote: This company does large facility HVAC as Alan Fletcher pointed out. They are a prime customer for this machine. It does not appear to be a large, well-known worldwide industrial group, however. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:22passi report
Daniele Passerini (22passi) posted a brief non-technical report here (in Italian): http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/10/bologna-28-ottobre-primo-resoconto-del.html He also added a semi-complete list of people present during the event. Oddly, the engineers/consultants of the anonymous customer were all Italians. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:First video from the October 28th, 1 MW E-Cat test event
On 2011-10-28 23:41, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, Two more videos by PESN: Andrea Rossi Reports on 1 MW E-Cat Test October 28 2011 Part 1: http://youtu.be/nc5K090SZFg Part 2: http://youtu.be/1UmoBoAcvxg Part 3: [to be uploaded soon] Part 4: [to be uploaded soon] Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Daily Mail reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo.
On 2011-11-03 22:21, OrionWorks - Steven V Johnson wrote: www.msnbc.msn.com reports on Rossi's Oct 28 demo. Hagelstein is quoted. All in all, seems to be a fairly positive report. No blatant misinformation or stupid misrepresentations that I could spot. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2057611/Italian-scientist-claims-achieved-cold-fusion--problem-physicists-think-impossible.html Here's an article on the same test, on Daily Mail. Can't get more mainstream than this! Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Wired UK / Nov 6 - Mills,Crude,Maryugo,Krivit chime in ...
On 2011-11-08 23:10, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Hank Mills v Crude,Maryugo,Krivit in the comments Krivit also posted a comment in today's Physorg.com article on Rossi here: http://www.physorg.com/news/2011-11-rossi-e-cat-customers.html Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
Via PESN: Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and developer of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an agreement with National Instruments (NI), to have them make all the instrumentation for the E-Cat plants, which began commercial sales on October 28, following the successful test in Bologna, Italy of the first 1 MW heat plant to the first customer. More details on PESN: http://pesn.com/2011/11/10/9601953_National_Instruments_signs_to_do_E-Cat_controls/ Great news! S.A.
Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
On 2011-11-11 00:53, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Today, Leonardo Corporation, led by Andrea Rossi, inventor and developer of the one-megawatt cold fusion E-Cat plant, signed an agreement with National Instruments (NI) By the way, Daniele Passerini (22passi) knew about this partnership since last April but he couldn't speak about it due to NDA. He did hint about it, though (I remember that). Link to his latest related blogpost: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/ni-come-national-instrument.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:National Instruments signs to do E-Cat controls
On 2011-11-11 10:59, Daniel Rocha wrote: Do you know whether or Daniele knows who is the secret customer? In case you don't know, can you ask him? I think Daniele knows (quotes about a customer that cannot be fooled were from him) but he is definitely not going to reveal who it is before others do. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up
On 2011-11-12 00:39, Jouni Valkonen wrote: For me this looks like a bad joke. It is not nice to do a fan page that superficially looks like authentic page. It turns out it's really an official website: * * * http://peswiki.com/index.php/Main_Page Leonardo-ECat.com Official Website Launched - Finally, Andrea Rossi has an official website to represent his breakthrough cold fusion E-Cat product, to introduce and orient new customers, businessmen, media representatives, and other curious parties; answering frequently asked questions. Brought to you in association with PES Network. (Leonardo-ECat.com; 11.11.11) * * * Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi E-Cat web site up
On 2011-11-12 02:26, Jed Rothwell wrote: [...] You got a problem with retro-looking HTML? You got a problem with old programs, and old programmers? The problem is not only that it's retro-looking (it actually is, however, since this is definitely not an intentional thing), but mainly that it's a website made in static html pages which is a very poor solution when there's a large amount of sections possibly subject to frequent changes (not only in content, but also in layout). By using a modern CMS (Wordpress would have done the job perfectly. It's free, by the way) not only the website would have most probably immediately looked better and been better structured, but it would also have freed the webmasters from tweaking pages individually with an HTML editor, offered better managing tools, more robustness and ease of maintenance, etc. Putting technical matters and lack of awareness of modern web technologies aside anyway, there also are a lot of puzzling things in the actual content such as the repeated use of the cold fusion term which Rossi avoided all along, the Leonardo employees list that might warrant Rossi a phone call or two by the U of Bologna, links to Yahoo groups or external sites that look very unprofessional and amateurish (couldn't they add their own discussion board? Or better, allow commenting on each page - although that would probably need a modern CMS again), the most probably unauthorized use of copyrighted photos, lack of fact checking in several passages, etc. Really, this is an embarassement of a website. Rossi will eaten alive by hardcore skeptics and the mainstream media tomorrow. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.
On 2011-11-16 21:49, David ledin wrote: look professional http://ecat.com/ This one does look like a proper corporate website. It's also surprisingly informative and it seems it will be regularly updated too on this aspect. Way to go! I wonder if it's Rossi-approved, just to be sure. Somebody should ask him on his JONP Blog. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.
On 2011-11-16 22:57, Peter Heckert wrote: [...] This is not a professional commercial site, regardless if Rossi approves it or not. I see there still are problems. What I meant however is that this one not only looks better than Allan's, but shows the information I'd expect to see in the right way, even if not in an excessively sophisticated manner (flashy animations, cutting edge design, etc - the kind of marketing fluff and stuff that especially big corporations pay much attention to). Could be a scam to collect high valued commercial email adresses, but only naive persons will send their official company adress to them. Such a scam was some weeks ago and it was disauthorized by Rossi himself soon. Could be, yes. That's why somebody should ask Rossi if this website is really what it makes it appear to be: From http://ecat.com/about ECAT.com in Association with Andrea Rossi and Leonardo Corporation offers a platform for interested parties in the ECAT technology. ECAT.com is currently, as the first site in the World, accepting pre-orders of ECAT products through the ECAT inquiry form on the right. These are non binding pre-orders but guarantees new customers a position on the waiting list which will be subject to a first-come first-serve policy. ECAT.com is by its designation to the Andrea Rossi’s ECAT a promoter of green, clean and affordable energy production. Keep in mind that this website until a few days ago showed on its home page professionally made videos of Rossi's E-Cat (or ECAT?) tests performed in Bologna. It looked as if they were building up hype for something... which in the end resulted in this website. Rossi must at the very least know who made the videos, since he invited them to his tests and was interviewed by these people. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:ECAT.com lunch new website in association with andrea rossi.
On 2011-11-17 00:09, Terry Blanton wrote: I do not think this is AR's web site. Well, it appears it is: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=510cpage=33#comment-121582 Dear Frank Acland: Yes, it is the website of our North Europe commercial Branch. Warm Regards, A.R. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos seems to be upset at U of Bologna
On 2011-11-17 01:32, Mary Yugo wrote: Google translate is difficult -- maybe we have an Italian speaker here? Stremmenos is perplexed at the matters regarding the contract signed between EFA and the University of Bologna, and the pressure the University is receiving from many to rescind from it. He says that being at the University of Bologna since the '50s, he was taught that the main duty of the University should be to transmit current knowledge and to create new one. He doesn't think that a lack of (little) funds should stop the University to do research on a matter of this scope and he is disappointed to find out that that bureaucracy and trivial economic matters prevail over its original duties (of transmitting knowledge and creating new one). He then points to a 12 years old article written by him on the official journal of the Italian Chemical Society, describing early Ni-H experiments, hoping that the pressure and skepticism he and his group received from their peers (and supposedly slowed the research?) won't show again. * * * So yes, it appears to me he is upset at the U of Bologna. By the way, Stremmenos writes in difficult Italian, even for native speakers. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Interesting *English* article from Focus.it - letter by Celani to Rossi and Rossi's answer
Hello group, I just received this from Google Alerts. Have a read at the latest article from Focus.it on Rossi's E-Cat, in English: Part 1: Where is the E-Cat? http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203/where-is-the-e-cat_PC12.aspx Part 2: Dear Eng. Rossi... http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203/dear-eng-rossi_PC12.aspx Part 3: Dear Doc. Celani, dear Readers of Focus... http://www.focus.it/scienza/dove-va-l-e-cat-e-la-risposta-di-rossi-alla-proposta-di-celani-1203/dear-doc-celani-dear-readers-of-focus_PC12.aspx Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Ahern to announce LENR findings on December 7 in New York City
Hello group, The source for this information isn't very well known (Citi5 group?), but the story appears to be true (still, I'd like it to be confirmed by others as well). Brian Ahern of Ames National Laboratory is going to announce his findings and a new theory on LENR in December. Some excerpts from the story/announcement: “In 1995 we made a major and fundamental discovery regarding nano-material properties. This almost completely unknown to most technologists. All materials processed within certain tolerances experience very different vibrational modes than all other aggregations of matter. IT PROVIDES A CONCISE EXPLANATION FOR THE BIOENERGETICS OBSERVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF NATURE.” “In the last 8 weeks I have been astounded by a superior nanotechnology that will capture the imagination of even the greatest foes of LENR. I believe all of LENR is just a new and unanticipated form of nanomagnetism.” http://e-catsite.com/2011/11/17/rossi-rival-to-announce-cold-fusionlenr-findings/ Source: http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1826 Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Ahern to announce LENR findings on December 7 in New York City
On 2011-11-18 04:07, Terry Blanton wrote: Keyword, 'oscillon'. Jones Beene gets credit for the first posting. For those not paying attention: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg55636.html I see, sorry for the duplicate thread! However, more descriptive thread titles (subjects) would be helpful. Lately there are so many new posts each day that I am not able to keep up with their volume, so I find myself skipping threads and messages often depending solely on their subject. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Ahern to announce LENR findings on December 7 in New York City
On 2011-11-18 04:37, Terry Blanton wrote: Check this link from their main site: http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1833 they are watching us! LOL! I'm quoting the message from the comment section below for the sake of clarity. They're indeed watching! Citi5Fund Moderator 10 hours ago Note to our friends at http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg55636.html Lets get the record straight here: 1. We may be opportunists, but our intentions are good. This isn't about Citi5 - it is about social and environmental justice. LENR is new to us, but it is clear the value is tremendous. 2. Brian has asked us to act as a liaison with the public, and continues to update us frequently. 3. E3Blue has NO AFFILIATION whatsoever with Citi5. 4. WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT OWNED BY ANYONE: non profits cannot be owned, they are their an entity unto themselves. Watch the ego guys. We are all on the same team here, and this is about freedom. So, I take that for further updates on Ahern's plans and announcements we'll have to watch that space (although I would have expected Krivit to cover them as well). Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi meeted Piantelli, seeking his cooperation?
On 2011-11-20 12:25, Peter Heckert wrote: They write: *2007:* Rossi meets Piantelli and seek its cooperation. He *refuses,* but Rossi associate itself with the Focardi. This is a really important piece of information if confirmed, thanks for sharing. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat
On 2011-11-20 08:08, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: I have just emailed Rossi with my interest in purchasing a 100 kW E-Cat plant. [...] Just to be clearer: have you only asked Rossi that you're interested in purchasing an E-Cat plant, or has he already replied back and agreed for a meeting? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Help in testing a E-Cat
On 2011-11-20 18:07, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: As I stated, I have sent an introductory and request to purchase a 100 kW plant email to i...@leonardocorp1996.com with details of the existing business structure and the proposed business model. I expect it will take several days to get an initial reply and to start the NDA / contract / agreed test conditions, etc negotiations. Oz just about totally shuts down over Christmas and New Years for at least 2 weeks. It is our summer break and no one is at work. So I expect I'm pushing it up a steep hill to expect to get over to Bologna before Christmas. But I may get lucky. Ah, I see. Thanks for your reply. It looked as if everybody assumed that you were surely going to Bologna as a customer testing an E-Cat module in a matter of days. But as you say, Rossi has yet to approve your purchase proposal. Please do keep us informed on the process. In my opinion he really should accept, though. That a Vortex-l member tested and purchased a 100 kW E-Cat plant, sharing as many details as he could (to the extents of what NDAs allow) would boost up Rossi's credibility a lot and attract much interest around. Between me and you, please consider using this as a leverage for your proposal:) Besides, hasn't he repeated all along that it's up to the market to judge whether it works or not? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek
On 2011-11-20 18:30, Jed Rothwell wrote: That looks like one of Piantelli's experiments. Not sure, but I think that's what it is. I think that is a photograph of the very expensive equipment Piantelli uses to make his nickel powder. I remember seeing that somewhere else. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek
On 2011-11-20 18:44, Peter Gluck wrote: The test chamber is indeed very similar to Piantelli's high vacuum installation of Molecular Beam Epitaxy (see my 3rd paper abou Piantelli in my Blog). It looks like the very same one to me: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/29img/PiantelliKnudsenMachineW.jpg From http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/NET29-8dd54geg.shtml Also look here: http://www.consulente-energia.com/fusione-fredda-nichenergy-srl-siena-piantelli-azionariato-diffuso-roy-virgilio.html Same photo. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek
On 2011-11-20 19:15, Terry Blanton wrote: Consider the possibility that, having failed in the deal with Rossi, Defkalion made a deal with Piantelli. Interesting speculation. We might know if it's really the case in about two weeks of time (Defkalion GT announcement). It would be a tragicomic turn of events for Rossi if it is. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:A new article mostly about Defkalion in Greek
On 2011-11-20 19:26, Mary Yugo wrote: Anyone know when the countdown to this event started? Just curious when to look for it. On November 14th DGT announced: We will release a complete outline of our developments within the next two weeks. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/files/DGT_PRESS%20RELEASE_2011-11-14.pdf Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:its been great
On 2011-11-21 00:33, Daniel Rocha wrote: Jed, that is NOT possible. He would still see people answering the same things over and over again. What makes MY annoying is not the arguments, but the repetition. But the repetition is not only hers, it is also from whoever answer. So, it won't work just blocking. With Mozilla Thunderbird (an external email client) it's possible. It can kill completely threads and thread *branches* created by filtered users, if desired. You would however still see messages from the many users on vortex-l who appear to reply in a non-standard manner, splitting threads in multiple pieces. (that's very annoying in my opinion, together with HTML emails. The use of properly configured email clients should be among group rules) Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:its been great
On 2011-11-21 00:56, Charles Hope wrote: Agreed. Also, new threads should not be renamed replies to other threads, because some smart email clients are not fooled by subject changes, and the new thread is hidden in the original. I often do this when there's a more or less slight change of topic within the same thread. That, of course, doesn't create a new thread (and that isn't even my intention in those cases), but email clients that make it look otherwise are probably too old or not sophisticated enough for use with mailing lists. Incidentally, I find the list much more valuable with the contrasting contributions from Yugo, Cude, and Lomax, than when it becomes an echo chamber of agreement. I'd agree, but the volume of posting especially from Mary Yugo of the same arguments over and over again is unsustainable. It makes the group hard to follow (especially when those long threads get split multiple times by users with faulty email clients). Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi replies to my email
On 2011-11-21 02:35, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Dear Sirs, We are selling only 1 MW thermal plants, so far. Warm Regards, A.R. That's too bad. While I do understand what a full order book can do, it is disappointing to say the least. So much for his 100 kW min size offer. May still be doable but not until Feb 2012. Do mean you might be able to order 1 MW plant, but not before Feb 2012? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness: http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg Also add, from this article, the information that Rossi sought collaboration with Piantelli in 2007, but in the end turned instead to Focardi. I haven't read this anywhere else. This is either a complete journalistic invention (or at the very least severe misunderstanding) or information that Defkalion GT provided. http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=508 DGT moderators' behavior doesn't help. They say that they never answer to comments based on speculations, but they somewhat did here. A simple no comment would have been clearer. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness: http://www.tovima.gr/files/1/2011/11/18/Piantelli-engine%5B1%5D.jpg http://www.defkalion-energy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4t=508 By the way, it appears that Christos Stremmenos wrote a comment in the Tovima article linked, which he translated in Italian on JONP: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=14#comment-125963 I'll attempt a translation of his convoluted Italian to English below: I feel responsible for the transfer and the fate of Rossi's invention (Cold Fusion) in Greece, and also guardian of the moral values it contains. With scientific and idealistic motives, involving my friends, colleagues and long-term partners eng. A.Rossi and prof. S.Focardi, protagonists of this epoch-making invention, we attempted together to transmit to Greece the science and technological possibilities for a promising future in this country, birthplace of Democritus and Leucippus, and with this symbolism, to promote the new energetic era for the sake of the entire humanity. As for what matters the Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies SA, unfortunately and much to my regret, I find myself with mixed feelings for the frivolous and incoherent, to say the least, general behavior and documented financial breach of contract with A.Rossi that lasted almost a year. I'll conclude with a wise popular saying from my birthplace Ervytania: The poor's lamb can't become a ram. Prof.Ch. Stremmenos Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!
On 2011-11-21 13:54, Daniel Rocha wrote: What did he mean by that? I don't know how should a view that message. In very few words, that he is not happy with what Defkalion GT is doing and has been doing so far. Sorry, this is not really related with the OP regarding a possible Piantelli involvement. I should have posted this as a new thread. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!
On 2011-11-21 14:10, Daniel Rocha wrote: What I don't really understand is if he is implying that Defkalion stole Rossi's invention or if they are just making a scam using Rossi's invention, which means bad publicity. I don't know myself. That's not clear from what he's written in his latest comment. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
Hello group, Have a read at the latest English article from Focus.it on the E-Cat. This time it's Brian Josephson who's written an open letter to Andrea Rossi: http://bit.ly/josephson-rossi-uk (credits to 22passi for the news: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/lettera-aperta-da-brian-josephson.html ) Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Open letter from Brian Josephson to Andrea Rossi (Focus.it)
On 2011-11-21 18:26, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, [...] Well, given this answer he just gave a reader on JONP, I doubt he will accept Josephson's suggestion: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=14#comment-126526 Andrea Rossi November 21st, 2011 at 4:58 PM Dear Ivan: We are no more in the mode of public tests, the times of public tests are over. We are manufacturing plants for our Customers, and our Customers will test the plants they have bought. The proposal of Celani is just a provocation, and an insult to all the people that already made tests. We are working for our Customers, not for the curiosity of our competitors. By the way: Celani is using since decades the money of the taxpayer to make his apparatuses: he should employ his time to make worth the public money he is using, instead of going to try to “test” the work of others. Warm Regards, A.R. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos comments on Rossi and Deflakion
On 2011-11-22 03:13, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=516cpage=14#comment-125963 I posted a clearer version here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg56332.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Stremmenos comments on Rossi and Deflakion
On 2011-11-22 18:43, Mary Yugo wrote: The poor's lamb can't become a ram. What could that mean? (Sorry if I'm especially dense this morning) Probably that, according to Stremmenos, Defkalion GT don't have the resources (not necessarily economic) to develop an idea into something big and workable as Rossi is supposedly doing. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow
Hello group, This is again via 22passi: http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-state-house-del.html According to Sen. Bruce Tarr, Andrea Rossi, the Italian scientist who claims to have developed the world's first nuclear cold fusion reactor is coming to the State House tomorrow to explore the prospects of developing the device and producing it in Massachusetts. Tarr's office says Rossi plans to visit Tuesday morning for two days of meeting with government officials and representatives of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, the University of Massachusetts and Northeastern University. Mr. Rossi's reactor, if successfully proven and developed, has the potential to change the way the world deals with energy, Tarr said in a statement. Source: http://www.statehousenews.com/skedtuesday.htm Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Re: Randi Video
On 2011-11-22 21:49, Jed Rothwell wrote: [...] because he and others refuse to let me upload photos of his heater that ran for years, Would the photos you mention by any chance be those that can be seen in this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGmgTo2Kw1U At minute 2:11, 3:16, 4:03 ? If yes, as they are already public, it wouldn't harm asking their owners to release higher quality versions of them. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow
On 2011-11-22 20:18, Akira Shirakawa wrote: According to Sen. Bruce Tarr [...] This is Sen. Bruce Tarr's blog where probably the story originated: http://www.tarrtalk.com/2011/11/cold-fusion-inventor-comes-to-boston.html According to him, Rossi's already arrived in Boston this morning. It might be worth keeping an eye on this site for a couple of days in case new information on this matter arises. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi to come to the Massachusetts State House tomorrow
On 2011-11-22 20:18, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, By the way, I wonder if he's met with prof. Hagelstein. A few months ago he wrote this on JONP: I thank anyway Prof. Peter Hagelstein for his attention. If the MIT is interested to our product, they can buy a plant, and make all the validations they want, for themselves, and get from it good heating too, during the hard Bostonian winters ( I lived there for some year, mamma mia, che freddo!) Warm regards, A.R. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion did not deny to use Piantelli technology!
On 2011-11-21 12:41, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: Ok, its time to spread some new rumours, to avoid boredness: I just found this on the Facebook Rossi Cold Fusion fan page: Giuliano Bettini On the Defkalion - Piantelli connection. http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/domani-rossi-alla-state-house-del.html 23 novembre 2011 13:17 Daniele 22passi ha detto... @tutti Roy Virgilio categorically denied to me any connection between Defkalion Piantelli and, in fact it is quite angry: they used a picture (one of the Piantelli’s device to prepare the nickel powder) without asking permission ... stuff to police report! So, no connection between Piantelli and Defkalion GT. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)
Hello group, Here is Rossi's answer to Brian Josephson on an English article from Focus.it. (Brian Josephson joins Francesco Celani's call for further scientific tests of Andrea Rossi's E-Cat, but Rossi has different plans) http://www.focus.it/scienza/ecat-cold-fusion-andrea-rossi-replies-to-nobel-prize-winner-brian-josephson-956_C12.aspx Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)
On 2011-11-23 19:51, Mary Yugo wrote: Does anyone still believe that after all the equivocations Rossi is going to produce an E-cat for independent testing anywhere? If so, when? To whom? Anyone think he's going to produce a credible customer with some results? Same question: when? Regarding the UoB, this might partially answer your question: http://corrieredibologna.corriere.it/bologna/notizie/cronaca/2011/23-novembre-2011/fusione-fredda-svolta-o-bluff-cat-sotto-esame-ateneo-1902274913518.shtml An excerpt translated in English for you: Our interest is very strong - states Paolo Capiluppi, director of the [Physics Department of the University of Bologna] - We are very curious but to us it's truth only what we can measure. To make the contract active, the payment of the first instalment of the 50 euro Rossi committed to fund to sustain all costs, is needed. We should start briefly, within a few weeks - confides Enrico Campari, professor of experimental physics and scientific person in charge of the research with Giuseppe Levi -, by [next] summer we could have the first scientific reports of the obtained results, which we will disclose in scientific journals. So, in a few weeks of time, it seems. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)
On 2011-11-23 20:06, Mark Iverson-ZeroPoint wrote: Akira: Just want to thank you for taking time to monitor what's being said at various websites and then taking time to update the Vort Collective... it is much appreciated! It's not hard work at all - If you know where to look! Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi replies to Nobel prize winner Brian Josephson (Focus.it)
On 2011-11-23 21:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote: Details that do not interest to researchers. With our equipment we will go in the shed that Rossi makes available to make the measurements - Campari says - will be free and independent measurements to verify whether the system produces a large amount of energy. Google already does a good job here. [...] [But these are] details [1] that don't matter to researchers. With our equipment we'll go in the shed [2] Rossi will make available for us to take measurements - Campari explains - these will be free [for us to do], independent measurements to verify whether the system produces a large a mount of energy. [1] regarding Rossi's past [2] Rossi's factory seen on videos of tests in October. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Short report on Kullander's cold fusion lecture
Hello group, Few know that Sven Kullander of the University of Uppsala today held a lecture on cold fusion in Örebro, Sweden. A person named Hampus Ericsson has made a short, informal report of what happened on the unofficial Andrea Rossi Facebook group page: http://www.facebook.com/EnergyCatalyzer I couldn't stay for all of it because I have a train to catch. The lecture was good. He started by going I've all different types of nuclear power. And then he talked about hot fusion and when that might be functional. Then the good par came, he talked about all the different test that have been made of Rossi's ecat( basically read the Ny Teknik reports. Then he talked about his own test, he said that it proved that heat was made but he couldn't say how, and he dont believe it's cold fusion because that impossible by today's science. But it could only be explained by cold fusion happening. He was very confused :). He also said that Rossi is definitely not a fraud and that his friend Focardi and Levi is absolutely not frauds. They are his friends and he trust them. Rossi on the other had he said to be a black box. (continues) He said that NASA had contacted him and asked about rossis ecat. So NASA was the first American customer that bailed. Apparently they wanted to know how it worked and Rossi wanted to keep the secret for himself. Sven kullander did not know who the final costumer is. He also said that Rossi can be a little bit angry at people who don't trust him. That's why Sven have kept on Rossi god side and never told him that it don't work. Sven said that he have asked Rossi if Uppsala university can independently test the device, with the demand that all information will be reveled to the public. If Rossi says no to this Uppsala will not test the device. One of the most interesting thins was that Sven kullander sad that Focardi and Levi are both excellent professor that he believe a 100% in, Rossi on the other hand is a little bit of a black box. He said that there are two black boxes in this history, Rossi and he ecat. He also said that his colleague Roland Peterson (think that was his name) is very positive on the ecat. Sven also showed the test of the nickel fuel and the copper nickel that is left after the reaction. They will come out with a full article on this when all the testing is done. But the first test show copper in the waste. If Hampus Ericsson is reading, it would be nice and useful if he or anybody else who were there, have a Facebook account (I won't dare creating one) and are in contact with him, put together in a single coherent post their comments and impressions on the event. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Report on Rossi's visit to Boston
On 2011-11-23 22:31, Jed Rothwell wrote: Someone from Boston just called me to say that Rossi met with Peter Hagelstein at the state capital, and Rossi said exactly what he's been saying all along: I actually had some hope for this meeting. It looks like I'll have to lower my expectations next time. But surely this isn't the whole story, is it? I doubt Rossi went there just to say hello. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:New Youtube videos from SRI features a lecture by McKubre
On 2011-11-24 23:47, Mary Yugo wrote: don't know. If someone has time, I'd like to know where the Rossi coverage is. I watched the first video and he promises to give some time to that issue: I've seen these videos a few days ago. They're quite interesting as a whole. I've also found out that McKubre has attempted successfully gas-loaded Ni-H experiments. This is the segment where he speaks about Rossi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3N3dWlIPUQ Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Andrea Rossi Working with Domenico Fioravanti on Electrical Power from E-Cat
On 2011-11-25 14:50, vorl bek wrote: Since lead melts at 327 Celsius, is there some lead alloy that would keep it solid at 450? I think that, more simply, the reactor core could be surrounded by a jacket made of a metal/alloy of a higher melting temperature, containing lead which would safely melt inside of it during reactor operation. Isn't something like this described in Rossi's patent anyway? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Official 1 MW E-Cat brochure is released
On 2011-11-25 18:00, Jones Beene wrote: I'm 99% certain that Bushnell has not authorized that his name be used for this[...] I was thinking the same. That phrase has also been taken out of context. This brochure lacks substance by the way. There are no complete real photos of the 1MW power plant, very little technical info on it and almost nothing on the underlying processes other that it essentially runs on cold fusion. And who is Andrea Rossi? What exactly is an E-Cat? Why there's no mention of Focardi? What about patents? Certifications? Validations? Practical comparisons with competing energy sources? Wasn't cold fusion a scam ? And so on. This brochure needs much work. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:bit.ly/cold-fusion
On 2011-11-27 21:52, Peter Gluck wrote: [...] As regarding Transition Metals-H LENR (not only Ni works)... It's interesting to know that not only Ni (in addition to Pd) works. I assume that Fe-H LENRs could be possible, at least in theory; I wonder at what efficiency, compared to Nickel. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Defkalion: “We have Rossi’s formula”
Hello group, Have a read at this article posted today on NyTeknik. It's about the backstage of tomorrow's Defkalion Announcement: http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3353181.ece A short excerpt: “Let’s say I have the formula of Rossi, but I’m not saying it officially. My scientists found a way to make it. They need three months.” That is what Alexandros Xanthoulis, representative of Defkalion’s owners, told Ny Teknik in a telephone conversation on August 5, 2011. “I know what he’s got in the reactor, I know everything. It was a spectroscopy made by the University of Siena. (...) They tried his reactor without him understanding what they did,” he continued. It's quite interesting, to say the least, that the University of Siena was involved in this, assuming what Xanthoulis said is true. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: “We have Rossi’s formula”
On 2011-11-29 12:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, For what it's worth, Daniele Passerini on a recent comment in his Blog [1] is saying that when Roy Virgilio denied any relationship between Piantelli and DGT, he answered him privately that according to his sources both do have an agreement, but he (Daniele) wouldn't comment publicly about it before this matter got clearer. Today's NyTeknik article according to him gives credit to the information he was given. [1] http://22passi.blogspot.com/2011/11/ma-facciamola-finita.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: ?We have Rossi?s formula?
On 2011-11-29 13:01, peter.heck...@arcor.de wrote: If this is true they are gangsters and Rossi has my full support. And also at University of Siena they have gangsters, if this is true. I guess if this turns out to be true, Rossi was not wrong about snakes and competitors lurking everywhere, trying to steal his secrets whenever possible. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Uploaded McKubre slides and YouTube links
On 2011-11-29 16:43, Jed Rothwell wrote: A copy of the slides in Acrobat format and a convenient list of the YouTube links are here: http://lenr-canr.org/News.htm Thanks for the slides, I was wondering if they were available somewhere. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: “We have Rossi’s formula”
On 2011-11-29 16:46, Stephen A. Lawrence wrote: Exactly how do we square this with Rossi's claim that he ran a reactor for *two years*, heating a factory? Perhaps they meant that in self-sustaining mode? Just guessing. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Piantelli's amazing claims
On 2011-11-29 20:38, Jed Rothwell wrote: Original source in Italian: http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14742857-novita-cella-piantelli.html Hopefully we will have additional news on Piantelli by Roy Virgilio soon. There were supposed to be some by the second half of November but it looks like this got delayed a bit. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Defkalion: “We have Rossi’s formula”
On 2011-11-29 13:32, Akira Shirakawa wrote: On 2011-11-29 12:14, Akira Shirakawa wrote: Hello group, http://www.energeticambiente.it/sistemi-idrogeno-nikel/14742857-novita-cella-piantelli-5.html#post119273029 Roy Virgilio states again and confirms that there are no agreements between the Piantelli group and Defkalion, although he can't say whether Defkalion is in contact with the Univesity of Siena or not. This information however is conflicting with Passerini's and some I had the chance to obtain lately. I guess we will know soon what turns out to be true, anyway. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:translation
On 2011-12-04 16:19, Peter Gluck wrote: Translated in English this is: you will not see soon working E-cats Reason- they cannot stop the ... webcam when making confidential operations as mixing pixie dust and aqua Tofana to nickel. Should we believe this? That he doesn't want the general public to know when/where/how he (and his associates) works on his devices is understandable in my opinion, given the shroud of secrecy he's put on this particular aspect so far. Also, switching off periodically a webcam supposed to be online 24/7 would raise many unwanted questions. Wouldn't it be better if a *real* customer made a live video feed available rather than Rossi, anyway? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:LENR Presentation by Joseph Zawodny, NASA Langley Research Center Edit
On 2011-12-05 01:44, ecat builder wrote: I just posted a slideshow from Dr. Joseph M. Zawodny of NASA Langley Research Center from the September 22 LENR Workshop. http://www.ecatplanet.net/content.php?133-LENR-Presentation-by-Joseph-Zawodny-2011 Its a 35 page PowerPoint presentation that covers history, theory, ramifications, and more. This version is better than Krivit's edited .pdf one. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Nasa LENR slides
On 2011-12-05 01:48, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20110922NASA-Bushnell-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20110922NASA-Nelson-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf http://newenergytimes.com/v2/government/NASA/20110922NASA-Zawodny-GRC-LENR-Workshop.pdf I wonder why these can't be downloaded off the NASA GRC website. This is a honest question. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Nichenergy-sponsored workshop on LENR?
Hello group, It has come to my attention that the 10th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals on April 2012 will be organized by Piantelli and sponsored by Nichenergy srl, a newly founded company representing his investors and which will supposedly manufacture Ni-H devices based on the work of his research group: http://www.iscmns.org/work10/ Since this is as far as I know the first time that Nichenergy srl is officially mentioned as a sponsor, I guess this means we will have soon news on their part and more details on who they are and their mission (plans, future projects, etc). I hope for concrete news as soon as possible, before the Rossi/Defkalion GT bubble (which overall has been in my opinion beneficial to the LENR field so far) bursts. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:a long paper about and mainly against the E-cat
On 2011-12-06 14:44, Peter Gluck wrote: http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/12/the_nuclear_physics_of_why_we.php?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScienceblogsChannelEnvironment+%28ScienceBlogs+Channel+%3A+Environment%29 http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2011/12/the_nuclear_physics_of_why_we.php?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=emailutm_campaign=Feed%3A+ScienceblogsChannelEnvironment+%28ScienceBlogs+Channel+%3A+Environment%29 This is yet another skeptical paper which assumes that what takes place in cold fusion processes is as conventional nuclear fusion occurring in vacuum and naturally in stars, and therefore cannot be possible in tabletop devices due to several reasons. I feel this is becoming a typical straw man argument for skeptics. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers
On 2011-12-06 20:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I've just finished a marathon multi-day session of skimming through the excellent http://lenr-canr.org http://lenr-canr.org/ library. Good job, but I'll play the devil's advocate by saying that many of them are not peer reviewed papers and because of this hard skeptics would reject them at once. By the way, have you checked if this archive contains things not included in lenr-canr.org ? http://www.iscmns.org/library.htm For Jed Rothwell: a quick suggestion. I think it would be useful a more detailed indexing/search system for lenr-canr.org, for example: - Sorting the archive by the original document date (not publication date on lenr-canr.org) - Options for filtering document type (peer reviewed papers, news articles, books, presentations, patents, other, etc) - Broad scope tags for narrowing for filtering the document content (theory research paper, research paper, etc) - A tag denoting when documents have been edited - Using more than one of the above filters at the same time - etc. This would probably need a website revamp (it's completely all in static html right now), access to more advanced server-side features (database, php) and a complete cataloguing work on the existing documents. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:Brian Ahern Will Not Be Presenting on December 7, 2011
From NextBigFuture: http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/12/brian-ahern-will-not-be-presenting-on.html This is unexpected. Does anybody know why Dr. Brian Ahern won't be presenting his findings on LENR tomorrow as originally planned? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern Will Not Be Presenting on December 7, 2011
On 2011-12-07 01:43, Akira Shirakawa wrote: From NextBigFuture: http://nextbigfuture.com/2011/12/brian-ahern-will-not-be-presenting-on.html This is unexpected. Does anybody know why Dr. Brian Ahern won't be presenting his findings on LENR tomorrow as originally planned? The organizer appears to confirm. He's posted the presentation Ahern was supposed to show as a compensation on this page: http://citi5.org/launch/?p=1885 Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern presentation with comments
On 2011-12-08 05:53, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: http://citi5.org/launch/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Energy-Localization-No8-11.ppt It appears you can see the notes only if you DON'T view the slides in presentation mode. This might not be possible on all programs that can read this file. For clarity, I'm copy/pasting them here from each slide: 01) Nature has evolved in a narrow size regime below 12 nanometers to take maximal advantage of an energy exchange mechanism that is not available at larger dimensions. 02) The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics invariably leads to an increase in entropy and order moves towards disorder. That is not true for biological systems. Why not? 03) The mass of the nuclei are thousands of times more massive than the electrons, so their motions can be treated separately in most cases. As heat is added the vibrational amplitude increases slightly. The amplitude of vibration increases only a little. 04) As you can see these potential wells are very broad and shallow. They are no longer simple parabolas . As a result the nuclei move over much larger distances. These kinds of potential wells define all superconductors including PdD, PdH, NiH etc. The hydrogen nuclei undergo massive nonlinear oscillations while the metal lattice undergoes small amplitude, high frequency oscillations. 05) The white puck at the bottom is a high temperature superconductor. This photo was taken in 1987. The nuclei in superconductors do not vibrate like most solids They undergo very large amplitude oscillations. Levitating a magnet above the materials is simply the easiest method for verifying the superconducting state. These materials were highly touted in 1987, but I do not know of a single commercial product that uses them. 06) In 1953 Enrico Fermi was simply testing out the operation of one of the country’s first computers called MAINIC I. They gave it a simple mathematical-Physics problem of finding the average energy of a one-dimensional array of harmonic oscillators. With their simple linear assumptions each of the masses acquired roughly the same amount of vibrational energy. This was the anticipated result and it verified one of Thermodynamics basic tenets, The Equipartition of Energy. 07) Fermi’s colleague, Stanislau Ulam, decided to change the problem from simple harmonic motion by adding another term to the force equation. This made the problem nonlinear and the outcome was quite different. After thousands of periods of oscillation, they found that the vibrational energy was not equally shared. On the contrary, it was localized and focused to a small number of elements. The red arrow denotes locatios where the masses are ‘vibrationally cold’. These regions extract heat from the environment and ‘up-pump it’ to feed the large amplitude regions. This is a local reversal of the 2cd Law, not a global reversal. 08) hese two conditions are both necessary and sufficient. The elements can be atoms, BBs or hockey pucks The number of elements cannot be too large or too small. This is an ‘Intermediate Size Effect’. It is actually just a feedback effect that is not obvious beforehand. 09) Here is the cover story for Nature in August 1996. A Petrie dish full of BBs was electrostatically charged and the vibrational modes amplified in specific and repeatable locations. There was a countable number of BBs and the electrostatic charge provided some weak nonlinear coupling. There was no localization without the electrostatic charging. These large vibrational modes act like very hot spots and catalyze chemical reactions when the BBs are atoms. 10) All nanoparticles in this size regime will display energy localized vibrational modes. They will be able to catalyze energy transfers as if they were very hot, localized energy reservoirs. All enzymes have at least one of their dimensions in this size regime so they can efficiently carry out the building of ordered structures out of random chemical environments. 11) Enzymes for example are known as Nature’s catalysts. They accomplish their tasks with high efficiency and high specificity through this little known mechanism, Energy Llocalization. 12) Fireflies are an excellent example of highly efficient energy transfer at the nanoscale. The Luciferase enzyme converts ATP into visible light with nearly 100% efficiency. Similarly, Nature’s solar cell is Photosynthesis where visible light is converted into ordered structures and stored chemical energy. All the important processes happen at the magic size regime. 13) In conclusion, perhaps the most important use for Energy Localization will be in the field of Lattice Assisted Nuclear Energy. We have already noted that superconductors have enormous anharmonic vibrational modes. Palladium hydride is a superconducting system that already has enormous vibrational modes for the hydrogen isotopes. By processing palladium powders in the 4-10 nm size
Re: [Vo]:Brian Ahern Will Not Be Presenting on December 7, 2011
On 2011-12-08 04:49, Joshua Cude wrote: Looking at the slides, it's not surprising he bailed. The talk doesn't look finished. Like he never got past the introduction. If you check out presenter slide notes with PowerPoint (not PowerPoint reader) or OpenOffice/LibreOffice, you can get access to more detailed and complete descriptions for each slide. Read my reply to Aussie Guy here: http://www.mail-archive.com/vortex-l%40eskimo.com/msg58435.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:LENR-CANR Theory Papers
On 2011-12-06 20:15, Alan J Fletcher wrote: I've just finished a marathon multi-day session of skimming through the excellent http://lenr-canr.org http://lenr-canr.org/ library. Another link for you. It contains documents not included in http://lenr-canr.org : http://jcfrs.org/pubs.html Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year
On 2011-12-11 18:46, Harry Veeder wrote: Rossi did not even answer the question. lol I think we should now expect Rossi to not activate (i.e. pay) his contract with the University of Bologna in January, and see him come out at some point with a [mostly] undisclosed report of an undisclosed 1MW plant test made in an undisclosed location by undisclosed scientists of a famous (very important) undisclosed entity somewhere. This obviously won't have any credibility at all. It's time to move on, methinks. Let's hope that Defkalion GT or other scientists (supposedly close to reaching commercially viable results) won't back off from reputable, independent, thorough testing at the last minute or postpone it forever. People in contact with them should urge such testing to begin as soon as possible, and to make results public. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Rossi plans to muzzle the university project for at least a year
On 2011-12-11 19:28, Mary Yugo wrote: [...] Is there any reason to believe anything Defkalion claims at this point? Basing on recently disclosed information, independent testing should occur within the first months of next year. Confidential information at my disposal also leads me to believe they might have something. In any case, we'll know much sooner than in Rossi's case (not before a year from now), it seems. I didn't intend to put too much emphasis on DGT in my previous message, by the way. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Crowd-funded test? List of pro-LENR scientists
On 2011-12-15 19:08, Jed Rothwell wrote: If you have $1 million burning a hole in your pocket, give it to me that I will have this thing replicated in no time. People such as Miley could replicate most of it in a short time if they had ~$50,000 in funding. Or $5,000. Would he really be able to replicate sustained kW-level excess heat (of course, with watt-level input) with just $50,000 in funding or so? Serious question. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:LENR and Cold Fusion from a critical logical point of view.
On 2011-12-16 14:49, Peter Heckert wrote: LENR - Low Energy Nuclear Reactions, is this possible? What about LENR - Lattice Enabled Nuclear Reactions? Personally I Like it more than Low Energy. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:e-cat replication by Celani
On 2011-12-16 16:43, David ledin wrote: some of his reactions has exceeded 1400 watts per gram of nickel, which is higher than that of uranium fission in the “cladding” Zirconium. Although Celani you hear talk about “technological reality”, as it has exceeded 200% yield for two weeks. Well, this alone would be great news, if independently verified and replicated (particularly by scientists skeptic of LENR/cold fusion), and bring immediate great benefits to the entire field. By applying radio frequency (microwave) to dust (I did not know whether that of Smith or his), he had a massive production of gamma rays, which does not want Celani and does not consider useful. I disagree: they would be EXTREMELY useful as they would *clearly* indicate that nuclear reactions are occurring! Why is Celani dismissing them as some kind of annoyance? I don't get this. Aren't scientists and researchers like him struggling for acceptance on their results in the mainstream science community!? I'm astonished. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research
On 2011-12-17 05:10, David ledin wrote: http://blog.newenergytimes.com/2011/12/16/shells-interest-indicates-major-shift-for-lenr/?utm_medium=twitterutm_source=NewEnergyTimesBlog In the comments: Steven B. Krivit says: December 17, 2011 at 00:21 Received via e–mail: I ask you take down the blog about Shell. That was privileged information for the CMNS group, and it’s disclosure is highly inappropriate. Thank you, Ed Beardsworth. PS… I am not a venture capitalist. While it's nice that now the general public knows, unwanted actions like this might prevent in the future disclosure of important LENR-related information to small groups like the CMNS mailing list. I hope Krivit realizes this. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Royal Dutch Shell will invest in lenr research
On 2011-12-17 17:38, Terry Blanton wrote: [...] Me, I wouldn't want to be a part of a group who would have me as a member. :-) Personally I think I would find very interesting to even just read (I don't think I'd even dare trying to post, to be honest!) what's going on there, even if I wouldn't be allowed to repost that information publicly elsewhere. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Miley and other professors can only take money from official sources
On 2011-12-18 17:18, Terry Blanton wrote: It wouldn't hurt to fill out this form: http://www.shell.com/home/content/innovation/innovative_thinking/game_changer/submit_idea/ This might actually be a good idea. By the way, until Krivit leaked that email from the ISCMNS mailing list, I've never heard of this GameChanger program by Shell. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:A competent observer's assessment of Defkalion
On 2011-12-20 21:09, Jed Rothwell wrote: The expert has examined the machines and discussed their business plans. He has made an independent in-depth evaluation lasting several days. He Do you mean that this person actually went there an examined the machines in person? Sorry if I'm being picky here. Just want to be 100% sure. Cheers, S.A.
[Vo]:US Senate candidate Randy Hekman puts LENR first
Hello group, It looks that Tarr and Romney aren't the only US politicians seemingly open on LENR. From now, you can add to the list Randy Hekman, US Senate candate from Michigan. Have a read at this article from Cold Fusion Now blog. It contains an original interview to Hekman. He appears to be a fan of WidomLarsen and skeptic of Rossi (I think I've already read something like this somewhere else? Hmm...). While it's true that politicians most of the time say what people want to hear, I find interesting that apparently there appears to be growing interest on this area not only among a small group of Internet fans, but also in the real world: http://coldfusionnow.wordpress.com/2011/12/20/us-senate-candidate-randy-hekman-puts-lenr-first/ Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Celani's Coherence 2011 PowerPoint slides (in Italian)
On 2011-12-21 20:48, Jed Rothwell wrote: http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/CelaniFsviluppodi.pdf Thanks. This has also been posted on 22passi blog some time ago, but it's good to see it on lenr-canr.org as well. By the way, in the last page: Ahern e Rossi lavorano insieme in USA, DoD, progetto FT, dal 2008 [Brian] Ahern and Rossi work together in the USA, DoD, project FT, since 2008 Leaving aside that Rossi denied having worked together with Ahern, what is this FT project ? Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Krivit goes Berserk against Cold Fusion research to promote WL theory.
On 2011-12-22 12:08, Daniel Rocha wrote: McKubre's M4 bogus experiment index: http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/McKubre-Experiment-M4.shtml http://newenergytimes.com/v2/sr/McKubreM4/20111221ToWhomItMayConcern.shtml In the above link it appears to me that Krivit is not just attacking McKubre, but also accusing him of scientific fraud, or at the very least strongly implying that he is involved in it. This is stuff for lawyers that won't benefit at all the entire LENR field, and I mean including WL as well. Cheers, S.A.
Re: [Vo]:Celani replication boosts Rossi patent
On 2011-12-22 14:09, Aussie Guy E-Cat wrote: Dear Sterling Allan: The work of Celani (congratulations) shows that in my patent application I gave enough information to allow to an expert to reproduce the effect. What Rossi is implying here is that the information disclosed in his patent application has allowed professor Celani to replicate his results. I seriously doubt this is the case. Cheers, S.A.
