Re: [vox-tech] bare-bones web server
On Thu, Jul 18, 2002 at 03:43:55PM -0700, Nicole Carlson wrote: Hi everyone Can anyone recommend a tiny-footprint, minimal, feature-free, really bare-bones web server for Linux? I'm doing research on web servers, and Apache is way too smart for its own good. :) Can someone help me out? boa, thttpd, tux ... I've seen dozens listed on Freshmeat that claim to be small fast. ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] test - please delete
On Sun, Jul 14, 2002 at 10:51:30PM -0700, Gabriel Rosa wrote: On Sun, 14 Jul 2002, Dick Ely using JPS-SMTP POP wrote: test ignore using jps-smtp snip This is lugod's technical discussion forum. All Linux and computer related technical questions and discussions go here... I dunno... whatever it was Dick said, it sure SOUNDED technical. ;) ;) ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] GIMP and 8-bit GIFs
On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 11:45:31AM -0700, Henry House wrote: If you are using Debian, then you need the 'gimp-nonfree' package. Other distros vary, but likely have a similar package for GIF support. Alernately, save as PNG (or other convenient format) and use the command-line convert program tp convert to GIF. It is beastly slow but effective and supports many options to customize the output. It is part of the ImageMagick package. Ah - If .gif support (e.g. nonfree) was the issue, then yeah. What Henry said. :) Also, you can use NetPBM like so: pngtopnm SOME.PNG | pnmquant -fs 256 | ppmtogif SOME.GIF Where pnmquant -fs 256 makes a Floyd-Steinberg dithered image of 256 colors. You can also use palettes and other good stuff here, too. (I believe the format of the palette file you can use with 'pnmquant' is simply some .PPM file.) Good luck! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Apache, IE, error 404
I'm curious, is there any way to make an Apache webserver magically notice when an IE browser is about to get an error 404 and not actually send a 404 error code back? (e.g., show whatever error page it would show, but respond as if it was an ok, versus a file not found) The point is to circumvent the stupid built-in IE error response pages which are, in turn, circumventing any _useful_ error page your webserver may be providing. (LUGOD.org, for example, has a rather sophisticated error page which understands typos, knows about some out-of-date URLs, and so forth... It's sad to think so many people might never even see the useful error response because IE is overriding the server's actual HTML) Thx! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Apache, IE, error 404
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 11:49:23PM -0700, Rod Roark wrote: I think you can fix this on the browser side by going into IE's settings and unchecking show friendly HTTP error messages... or something like that. That's right, MS thinks that showing what caused an error is unfriendly. I can't exactly do this from my webserver. :) (That's my point... I'm trying to circumvent Microsoft's idiocy) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Apache, IE, error 404
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 07:22:28AM -0700, Rod Roark wrote: From Apache's default httpd.conf: # Customizable error response (Apache style) # these come in three flavors # #1) plain text #ErrorDocument 500 The server made a boo boo. # n.b. the () marks it as text, it does not get output # #2) local redirects #ErrorDocument 404 /missing.html # to redirect to local URL /missing.html #ErrorDocument 404 /cgi-bin/missing_handler.pl # N.B.: You can redirect to a script or a document using server-side-includes. # #3) external redirects #ErrorDocument 402 http://some.other_server.com/subscription_info.html # N.B.: Many of the environment variables associated with the original # request will *not* be available to such a script. Looks like #2 is what you are mostly wanting. Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't think that will do it. In fact, that's what I already have. Using a non-IE browser, go to, for example: http://www.lugod.org/projects/installfests.shtml and, perhaps, compare it to: http://www.lugod.org/FooBar/ So I've already got 404 errors doing magical PHP stuff. My issue is, they are (rightly) being transmitted as 404 responses. IE notices this, ignores any of the actual HTML content provided by the webserver (e.g., in the first page up there, the note saying You're probably looking for the installfest page: _link_), and just plops its crap onto the screen. I want Apache to say Ok, this is a 404... BUT... the requester is using Internet Explorer, so I'll still show them the 404 error page Bill so tirelessly created, BUT I'll just say it's an okeydokey response, not a 404. I think someone's suggestion to rewrite headers using PHP might do the trick for me. If so, I'll post my solution. Now to track down a Windows box with IE to test with ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Apache, IE, error 404
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 09:59:54AM -0700, Jeff Newmiller wrote: Now to track down a Windows box with IE to test with ;) First get the response code straightened out: snip HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found -* this is the response code snip ... then worry about finding IE to test with. Well _duh_. I haven't _done_ anything yet. :^) :^P -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Apache, IE, error 404
On Thu, Jun 27, 2002 at 10:17:38AM -0700, Rod Roark wrote: Well, I just tried these two URLs on IE 5.0 after booting up Win98 on my wife's (dual boot) machine. It seems to display your stuff OK, regardless of the friendly messages setting. Yes, same here for us, on two different boxen. It _seems_ that there's already something magical about Apache's config. on LUGOD.org, _OR_ that IE actually looks at the length/complexity/keywords within the 404 response HTML to decide whether it's already friendly enough Compare: http://www.lugod.org/tototo with the setting on and off (both cases, you see my nice PHP 404 error) to: http://www.newbreedsoftware.com/tototo with the setting on and off (on, you see the generic IE friendly 404, off, you see my simply 404.shtml page) Whatever. This is why I don't like thinking about IE. :) -bill! (discovered that a server-erroring VBScript in IIS still sends a 200 OK response, since I guess they assume all VB coders are too stewpid to disable the 'friendly error' setting. Seriously... I read this at microsoft.com just now after doing a Google search ;) ) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 11:34:45AM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: Whenever I visit a site using IE or Mozilla under Windows, I notice some sites can change the icons that appear on the URL. Everything2.org, for example. Does anyone know how to set this? I don't see anything in the stylesheet, as far as I can see I don't see anything obvious in the source... (though it's gotta be in the source *somewhere*!.) Nope. *brrzt!* Wrong! You need to throw a favicon.ico file in the root of your domain. (You CAN override/change it via HTML for particular files... I don't know the syntax offhand.) A .ico is, of course, a MICROS~1 WINDOWS icon file. Getting one that works just right can be a little tricky. I use some NetPBM tool or something to tweak mine. (It's been a while. BillsGames.com, LUGOD.org and NewBreedSoftware.com all have their own icons. The latter two are ones I whipped up in The GIMP and then converted.) Konqueror supports icons, too. It's actually kind of a nice feature. Gives extra feedback when browsing a list of URLs in history/pulldowns/etc., as well as when looking at your taskbar. (The program with the /. icon is Konqueror visiting some page on Slashdot. The one with the penguin is a LUGOD.org page. And so forth) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 12:26:35PM -0700, David Margolis wrote: so what tools can be used to create this ico? can you just create a 16x16 gif and convert it with something? Like I said, it's been a while. I believe KDE comes with an editor or converter or something. I also think there's a NetPBM-style tool available, too, so you can do something like: giftopnm icon.gif | _something_ favicon.ico I forget what the _something_ part is. ;) I can check when I get home, if you'd like. I'm fairly sure I've got that stuff installed there. (Debian/Woody w/ KDE) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [web-dev] Setting website icons?
On Mon, Jun 10, 2002 at 01:27:43PM -0700, Mark K. Kim wrote: I noticed a couple weeks ago when I was fiddling with an ICO editor program on Windows that Windows' ICO file contains several bitmaps for different colors and sizes (IIRC, 16x16, 32x32, 64x64, BW, 16 colors, 256 colors, in combinations)... kind of like Macintosh. From Steven's article, it sounds like you need 16x16 size icons at 16 colors, and perhaps the ones on the above three sites are of wrong colors or sizes? Ugh. Well, screw IE (unless someone can fix and test the icons for me). I don't have Windows, and therefore don't have access to IE. (THANK GOD!) The icons work perfectly under Konqueror. :) Perhaps an upgrade from Win/IE to Linux/Konq is what everyone in the world needs? :) Anyone happen to know if any other 'favicon.ico'-supporting browsers have problems? (Does Moz support icons?) The editor I used is PC Magazine's IconEdit32 from Download.com. That's IconEdit32 with 32 at the end, not the version without: http://download.com.com/3000-2195-5929957.html?tag=lst-0-2 (Needs Windows to run... maybe WINE will work with it?) Bleh. I don't even have WINE. I'm 99.9% Microsoft free. (I have their free TrueType fonts installed :^) I do NOT have any MS mice or keyboards, even) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Mutt: Saving E-mail Messages as Text Files
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 10:05:18AM -0700, Cam Ellison wrote: Pressing s alone saves it to a mailbox. Hmm? Since when? I save e-mails into files all the time! [s]filename.txt[Enter] If I were to save it as something like: [s]=somebox[Enter] ... then THAT would save it into a mailbox (in my ~/Mail/ directory) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Demo Machine: Stopped Rear Case Fan.
On Fri, Jun 07, 2002 at 05:50:33PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Just make sure it works by June 26th, for my Zaurus talk at Davis PCUG! ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] book recommendation: php
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 08:49:30AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: snip any recommendations for php? If you can wait until July, you can ask the author of PHP himself. ;) Of course, he's also the author of O'Reilly's Programming PHP, so he might be just a BIT biased. ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] total wierdness with permissions
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:48:51PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - are you really root? (not inside a fakeroot) Wait - Wasn't Pete the one who set his prompt to #, even for non-root users?! :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] xlib/gdk questions
On Mon, Jun 03, 2002 at 01:24:31PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: i've seen this happen before -- but i'm still not sure why it happens. can you explain just a little bit more why this happens? You've only got 256 colors on the 8-bit display. If program A wants 50 of them to be shades of green, and program B wants to have 256 shades of grey, that's more than 256 colors. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 02:43:43AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm interested in the delay problem you are having... if you are _not_ restarting the xfstt process you shouldn't have problems. I'd check to see if xfstt is running. If it is not, I start it, then I restart X. The exact symptom is that applications take a long time to load (or don't before the X server dies). This includes gnome-terminal and gfontsel... - What things are you doing when you notice lag or the session vanishing? Clicking on the Terminal or [Gnome Foot] - Programs - Utilities - Font Sel. :) snip My guess is xfstt plays much like apache (there is one master parent who runs as root, which forks a client process which switches to a dummy user to actually do the work for client connections). So the two processes is normal. Ok, cool. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] VNC Screen Geometry Settings
snip Usually VNC clients provide scrollbars. Is it not doing that? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] quick, stupid bash question
On Wed, May 29, 2002 at 11:11:19AM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: ok, i should know this... this redirects stderr to stdout and pipes the whole thing to grep: strace lsof 21 | grep System Try something like: strace lsof 21 1 /dev/null | grep (For some reason, the other order (21 at the end) doesn't work) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Re: truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 04:26:07PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Are we using the same font? (below is the md5sum from my TTF file) 15919e2750f38a3988147cd6ad57d22a GARTON__.TTF It's the same. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:38:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. (Gimp was tested, and works) Enabling xfstt did the trick! Thanks! I guess freetype was more fussy or buggy... -bill! (off to convince Star Office 5.2 to see these fonts, too) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] truetype fonts under gnome
On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 11:03:45PM -0700, nbs wrote: On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:38:21PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: xfstt - Handles the Garton font perfectly. (Gimp was tested, and works) Enabling xfstt did the trick! Thanks! I guess freetype was more fussy or buggy... Hmm.. Although xfstt seems to spawn a second time, and the whole X session seems pretty laggy, and sometimes vanishes. :^/ Could be a particularly bad TTF :^P root 2208 0.0 1.2 1972 800 ?S23:08 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --port 7101 --daemon --user nobody nobody2378 0.0 1.3 6588 832 ?S23:10 0:00 /usr/X11R6/bin/xfstt --port 7101 --daemon --user nobody -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] Re: truetype fonts under gnome
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 03:17:07PM -0700, nbs wrote: I followed some very nice instructions on the web: TrueType Fonts on Debian XFree86 4.x Systems ( http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html ) PS - Here's what I see: http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/xfontsel.gif --- font works http://www.sonic.net/~nbs/gfontsel.gif --- font does not work Thx! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[ot] posting etiquette (was Re: [vox-tech] For those keeping track of MS anti Open Source efforts)
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 10:15:12PM -0700, Steven Peck wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A60050-2002May22.html From slashdot.org Psst... Steven :) (1) Don't reply to an existing message to start a new thread, as that confuses threaded mail clients :) 209 D May 22 Ryan ( 24) SEVEN HOURS! was Re: [vox-tech] Is mo 210 May 22 Steven Peck( 9) `-[vox-tech] For those keeping track (2) Post stuff like this to vox, not vox-tech :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] xlib question
On Mon, May 20, 2002 at 11:24:27PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: what's the difference between an xlib Window, Display and Drawable? as in: Window win; Display dpy; Drawable drw; I believe a window is a kind of drawable, and both exist on displays. I bet that doesn't answer your question very well, huh? :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Demo machine motherboard doesn't like 64 Gig drives
On Tue, May 14, 2002 at 02:41:49PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: 2 days ago i put an 80GB drive into satan. when bios started looking for drives, it always hung when it tried to autodetect this drive. snip In case anyone cares... I initially had problems installing my 120GB drive into my box. A brief BIOS upgrade (which unfortunately required use of an MSDOS boot floppy) fixed it. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] New Distrobutions Virus Alert + humor
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 04:42:13PM -0700, ME wrote: snip ignote torch The torch having been lit you see: A large dark room with four obvious exits: N, S, E, and W. You face 2 Beastly Fidos, 1 RMS, 1 Linus Torvalds, 1 Bill Gates. snip Thank goodness this is archived. It'd be ashame to lose ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Demo machine sound card...
On Sun, Apr 28, 2002 at 03:26:20AM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Well the sound card now works, under ALSA version 0.9.0rc1. W00t! Sorry it gave you so much trouble. (Every time this machine gets wiped and reinstalled, it seems to take one of us a while to get the damned thing to work.) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
(This should really be on VOX, but... whatever :^) ) On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 04:03:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Overview Major installed packages include: - X11 4.1, Gnome, KDE, - Abiword, Gnumeric, Koffice, Openoffice, - Mozilla, Konqueror, lynx, links - Most of the development tool chain: C, C++, Perl, Python, - Many games: nethack, tuxracer, defendguin, gemdropx, etc... ;) the Loki demo archive... :{ Add to this: The Gimp ( www.gimp.org ) XMMS ( www.xmms.org ) Some XMMS visualization plug-ins ( ) And, if you have time, Frozen Bubble ( www.frozen-bubble.org - avail. as .deb ) glTron( www.gltron.org ) FlightGear( www.flightgear.org ) Vectoroids [ ;) ]( www.newbreedsoftware.com/vectoroids/ ) Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ ) XVNC [*] ( www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvnc.html ) And make sure sound is working! :) (If you don't have speakers, you can always use headphones, ya know!) [*] It'd be cool to show the Zaurus over VNC at the demos. I may need a little help getting a network between the systems... Thanks for your work! I've updated the Demo Box page: http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo/computer.php -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Mike said: Bill said: The Gimp ( www.gimp.org ) XMMS ( www.xmms.org ) Some XMMS visualization plug-ins ( ) XVNC [*] ( www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/xvnc.html ) And, if you have time, Frozen Bubble ( www.frozen-bubble.org - avail. as .deb ) glTron( www.gltron.org ) FlightGear( www.flightgear.org ) Vectoroids [ ;) ]( www.newbreedsoftware.com/vectoroids/ ) done. All of them? Cool! Thanks! Asteroids 3D ( www.psc.edu/~smp/a3d/ ) not packaged, or I'm missing it. No prob. I've never actually tried it before, so I don't even know if it's good. LOOKS nifty. There's another cool 3D asteroid game out there, too (not 1st person) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
Also, what servers are installed? (I assume Apache - what's enabled? OpenSSH, too, I'm presume. Anything else?) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Software suggestions?
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 06:58:19PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: not packaged, or I'm missing it. No prob. But when it's not packaged then I'd need to go find the source, figure out how to compile it and junk, which could take an hour for each package. ;) No ... I didn't mean It is not a problem for you to install it, lazybones I meant It is not a problem that you didn't bother installing it - it's not NECESSARY :) Anyway, thanks again! Also, I made all app. titles on the Demo Computer page on LUGOD.org links to their various homepages. (Most are www.[name of program].org :) ) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Linux's Vulnerability to E-mail Viruses
On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 08:47:34PM -0700, ME wrote: The most advanced encryption available is found when you use 2XOR (double-XOR) with your data and the same key. Like those ebooks! Wait, no that was ROT13 -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Lugod Demo Computer Hardware Details
On Wed, Apr 24, 2002 at 02:17:10PM -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay this message is an overview of the lugod demo computer Hardware Setup (software details in separate mail). I was thinking some information about the machine should be included on the website. There actually is: http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo/computer.php It's linked-to off of the main demo page (under Demo Computer paragraph): http://www.lugod.org/projects/demo/computer.php I'll go over your e-mail and update the specs. as needed, though! Thanks! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Not able to log into root.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 11:58:33AM -0700, Rusty Minden wrote: Dohh! Yes I do I flubbed when doing a search using vim sorry. Still can't use su to log into root. You'll probably need to boot into single user mode (err.. if you CAN with a botched /etc/passwd), or (more likely) use a rescue disk. BTW - use vipw, not vim... It will, as the man page says, set the appropriate locks to prevent file corruption. I seem to recall it also complaining and not saving/quitting if the file got botched up. (eg, it syntax checks it before committing to disk) I could be wrong about that last part, unfortunately... :) In that case, I guess VIM is good enough. Just be CAREFUL! ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Not able to log into root.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2002 at 02:11:33PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: why did you post /etc/passwd? it would be more helpful if you posted the contents of /etc/shadow. Why, so we can all try to crack it for a few weeks? ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] breakinguplongwordsinlatex
Is there a way to force a string to break at a certain length, regardless as to whether it contains spaces? In other words, some data being printed into columns of a table word wrap ok, because it's multiple words: This is a really long spaced entry for the column Others mess up the table (a longtable with specifically assigned widths): Thisisareallylongspacelessentryforthecolumn Any way to just force that 2nd kind of text to break at the column's width? (The data really should be changed, but that's not up to me, unfortunately. :^( ) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] C++ question - undefined reference
I'm trying to port an X-Window-based C++ game to SDL, and am having problems during linking. For some reason, event though the variable display is declared (I simply typedef'd its type, Display, to a plain old int), and event set to a value (just 0), I'm getting some errors: castle.o: In function `Castle::explode(Stats *)': /home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/castle.C:246: undefined reference to `display' laser.o: In function `Laser::render(bool)': /home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/laser.C:68: undefined reference to `display' ring.o: In function `Ring::render(bool)': /home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/ring.C:88: undefined reference to `display' ship.o: In function `Ship::render(bool)': /home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/ship.C:159: undefined reference to `display' /home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/ship.C:166: undefined reference to `display' ship.o:/home/kendrick/xsc-1.4/ship.C:169: more undefined references to `display' follow I'm not sure exactly what this error means, but it's at the linking stage. (In other words, I didn't get any 'undefined variable' errors regarding display during the compliation stage of the build.) Any ideas? Thanks! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] C++ question - undefined reference
On Mon, Apr 22, 2002 at 02:06:09AM -0700, nbs wrote: I'm trying to port an X-Window-based C++ game to SDL, and am having problems during linking. snip Hmm... Well, redeclaring it in one of the .C files as: #ifdef USE_SDL Display * display = 0; #endif ...seemed to do the trick. shrug I really dislike C++ :^P -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] LaTeX, DVI, PDF, LaTeX, fonts - HELP!
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 03:34:27PM -0700, Shawn P. Neugebauer wrote: If you're not doing anything to specifically control fonts, the default is Computer Modern (the distinct look behind most TeX documents) for the 3 font families of roman, san serif, and typewriter. The CM fonts are not PostScript fonts. I'm no expert, but the following simple fix will probably go a long way. Insert \usepackage{times} in the preamble of your document. It will make Times, Helvetica, and Courier the roman, san serif, and typewriter font family, respectively. These are PostScript fonts and the resulting output files should be much more compatible with PS printers. Thanks. Unfortunately, \usepackage{times} is already in there. :^( It could be that the font isn't installed on the server generating the PDF, and it's just sheer luck that some of the documents have been printed with the serif font. I'll look into it. In the meantime, if anyone has any other suggestions... :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] LaTeX, DVI, PDF, LaTeX, fonts - HELP!
On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 04:51:02PM -0700, Shawn P. Neugebauer wrote: snip A few things: * If the generated PDF file is not using Times, it should be obvious looking at the PDF in Acrobat. One can tell the difference between a doc w/CM fonts and a doc w/Times. What does a visual inspection reveal? I can ask people to ask the people with the systems with problems to do this. Thanks. :) * More useful, Acrobat will tell you precisely what fonts are used. Go to File/Document Info/Fonts Have your end-user try this on their machine. Compare. Ditto. * I don't see the HP-850S. Sorry... By HP-850s, I mean more than one HP-850. (eg, plural, not 's' ;) ) I see the HP DeskJet 850C, and this could be a problem since it's not PostScript. Hm What, exactly, is the printer that's having a problem? The problem could be the result of driver issues (not that you could fix them, but at least you would have something to blame). The HP-850 printers ( ;^) ) are the ones printing sans serif, when the rest of the printers all print times fine. They also have a slightly tweaked top/bottom margin, I asusme because of the way the paper feeds. eg, in LaTeX, I'm saying, I want the top bottom margins here here, but when I hold two printouts up to each other, the HP ones are printed 'higher.' VERY annoying when trying to fit an address postnet code in an envelope window. :^( :^( * In Acrobat on Windoze, there's a *very* useful option print as image that shows up in the print dialog box. It can be a little slow but it will print anything that Acrobat can display. Sadly, this option is missing in the Linux version. Have your end-user try this. Might save everyone a load of time. Thanks much! I'll let you know what happens. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Touble with Printer Set-up (long)
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 12:15:04PM +0800, Jim Langston wrote: Hi everyone, I'm a new Linux user, I don't have time to actually look over the problem, but I thought I'd welcome you to the community! :) So... welcome. And good luck! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Dingus, was modifying mouse selection behavior under X
On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 02:52:31AM -0700, Bill Broadley wrote: On a seperate but related topic, the wonderful dingus. Way cool, it's the part of gnome that allows a gnome-term to autorecognize URL's. So for instance as I read this email in mutt (in a gnome terminal), when the mouse goes over a url it highlights the url (with no support from mutt) then I can right click to view it in my favorite browser. KDE's Klipper (cut-n-paste clipboard applet in the taskbar) has a feature which makes this work anywhere. If you highlight a recognized string, it will pop-up a menu giving options as to what to do with it. So if it sees that you've highlighted: http://something.com/foo/bar/ it pops up a menu asking if you'd like to view that URL in Konqueror, Netscape, Opera, Links, etc. Or if it sees something like: /home/kendrick/photos/melissa.jpg it pops up a menu asking if I'd like to view it with KDE's image viewer. It's not QUITE as useful as just being able to click or meta-click an URL, and have it launch a browser right off, but it's nice that it works EVERYwhere, not just in terminals. (It doesn't even need to be a KDE app., either, thanks to the wonders of X11) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] modifying mouse selection behavior under X
On Tue, Apr 09, 2002 at 01:59:15PM -0700, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: egads! the first thing that makes me want to use a desktop manager. prolly still won't make me take the cpu hog plunge tho. ;) i'm going to look into mark's suggestion and if it doesn't pan out i'll experiment with booting up gnome when not playing games. You don't need to run Gnome to run Gnome Terminal. You already have Gnome libs installed (you use Abiword, no?), so it should just be a matter of: apt-get install gnome-terminal really? i have an xterm man page. i think it might be symlinked to x-terminal-emulator(1). try manning that. That worked. It's a symlink to Eterm's man page though. Odd! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] looking for Debian support
On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 12:02:27AM -0800, tfarnall wrote: Hi! I am contacting you because I'm looking for someone to provide paid support to me in the use of Debian. Hi Tom! Welcome to our list! Pete Salzman had forwarded your message to him onto this list last night, and we discussed it a little then. (You can see the thread starting here: http://www.lugod.org/mailinglists/archives/vox/2002-04/msg00025.html ) snip Regarding the immediate help I need, it is for someone to walk me through the debian install via telephone. An over-the-telephone attempt may prove to be frustrating, but it's better than nothing. Pete had suggested we do a road trip out to Arcata to help you, as we've done this once in the past for someone in Benicia. Unfortunately, though, it looks like you're a 6h15m drive from Davis! :) The closest other LUG I could think of was North Bay LUG out in Santa Rosa, but they're still 5h45m away from you. Doing a little more search on Google, I think I may have found a LUG at Humboldt State which might be able to help, if the over-the-phone attempt fails. From my response to the earlier thread: ...it appears there's a LUG in Humboldt, which is run by Ian Ray ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). The CS club at Humboldt State USED to have a LUG page on their site: http://www.humboldt.edu/~csc/ ...but don't seem to any more. Maybe someone from there can give pointers? Finally, I also stumbled across this fellow: http://www.kevinfrank.com/ ...who specializes in custom software and database development with FileMaker Pro. Also, Windows (all flavors), Linux, and Networking. He's in Arcata. In the meantime, I'm sure there's a number of people here who'd love to help over the phone! :) Again... welcome to the list! I've got to go run to prepare for tonight's meeting! -bill! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Public Relations Officer http://www.lugod.org/ Linux Users' Group of Davis ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
(MS anti-unix site NOT april fool) Re: [vox-tech] Effective home disk backup systems
On Mon, Apr 01, 2002 at 03:03:39PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: btw, was the MS/unisys article an april fool's joke or was it real? Well, unless it's an April Fool being done by Unisys themselves, no! Registrant: UNISYS CORPORATION (UEGZDXBIUD) UNISYS WAY MS E8 152M BLUE BELL, PA 19424-0001 US Domain Name: WEHAVETHEWAYOUT.COM ... The site www.wehavethewayout.com is running Rapidsite/Apa-1.3.14 (Unix) FrontPage/4.0.4.3 mod_ssl/2.7.1 OpenSSL/0.9.5a on FreeBSD. It looks like, while they are running a good OS and webserver (FreeBSD and Apache), they're still using crap to make it (FrontPage). ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] writing free getopt, ran into a dilemma...
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 12:35:05AM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: Keywords: getopt, license issues, GPL, BSD, optind Hey guys, I mentioned some months ago about how I was using GPL's getopt library in one of my company programs, and I was wondering about the GPL distribution issues.[1] Woah... getopt library is GPL, not LGPL? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] writing free getopt, ran into a dilemma...
On Thu, Mar 28, 2002 at 09:13:19AM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: The one I tried to link statically on Windows one time said it was GPL, but according to Micah it's apparently LGPL with misdocumentation. :P The reason I'm writing my own getopt is because I want static linkage. Anyway, some options I'm thinking about: I don't have the LGPL in front of me, but I believe it says something to the affect of: * if you statically-link, you must also provide a version of the binary that will dynamically-link, if the user wishes to do so -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] how to be not nice within C
On Mon, Mar 25, 2002 at 05:57:02PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: DOH!!! why oh why does man 1 nice have to come before man 2 nice?!? ;-) thanks, bill! Yeah. Irritating. Every time I want to man printf, I always end up with the shell 'printf' program's man page, not the C library one. ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] familiar review
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 12:28:27PM -0800, Gabriel Rosa wrote: snip I didn't like the default install very much, so I went ahead and ditched the window manager (ios) and installed icewm. I also went thru the graphical package manager (very excellent) and installed vim and bash (essentials) and a lot of PIM stuff (lots of options, some taken from agenda IIRC), Yeah - I heard that Agenda had been adopted/ported for Linux-on-iPAQ, at least as an alternative. Did you need to install FLTK, too, or were the binaries statically-linked to it. dillo and some small utilities. Dillo's great. :) Until I got my Zaurus (which has embedded Opera and now Konqueror/embedded - both awesome), I was really paying attention to ViewML (FLTK-based), Cheetah and Dillo browsers. I was really hoping one of them would get ported to the Agenda's smaller screen and stylus interface. Oh well... it's moot now :) Everything works really nicely, the anti-aliased fonts look _nice_. And I mean _nice_ :) Yeah - I heard you mention you've got AA'd fonts in the terminal. That's one thing the current terminal lacks on the Zaurus (it's just KDE's Konsole). Fortunately, both Opera and Konqueror support AA'd fonts. I think some of theKompany.com's apps support the available AA'd fonts, too. After the near-full install I still have 1.4mb left on the / partition, So / is flash? Is it mounted RW or RO? and half of the 32mb of ram mounted as a ramfs. As soon as I get the cha$$$nce, I'll probably get a nice 64/128 CF card to go with it, 64MB CF is only about $50 bucks at Fry's. You can probably find something somewhere cheaper. Do you have the appropriate sleeve (or whatever) to use a CF card? If not - how much do those run? I can't imagine it'd be much, since it seems like it should just be some kind of pass-thru with a different form-factor. BTW - Recently, people started pointing out PCMCIA-CF adapters, which will allow CF-based PDAs (like Zaurus iPaq) to use any old PCMCIA card. :) so I can carry some tunes around. It'll probably make a nice MP3 player, since you can shut the screen off completely, although not as nice as the Clie with dedicated DSP. What MP3 player are you using? The one that Trolltech wrote for the Zaurus is suitable, but it's currently lacking some useful features like forward- and backwards- seeking within a song. It supports MP3, MPEG1/2 and with a plug-in, MPEG4. There's a MOD plugin, but it sounds like it only works on iPaqs running Qtopia. Fortunately, theKompany.com is coming out with a product which will be a complete solution for all audio, video and image viewing needs. (And has built-in MOD support.) I'm eagerly awaiting that. :) One of the things that really impressed me is how easily the screen rotates from landscape to portrait (both directions each), and how the hardware (screen, audio, apm, launch buttons) worked out of the box. Can you rotate the screen while everything is running? Do all apps. rotate? Under Qtopia, screen-rotation affects the next application(s) you launch, so I can have a right-side-up (portrait) terminal, and a sideways (landscape) web browser. (It also supports all 4 degrees of rotation.) It also comes with an onscreen keyboard and xstroke, for handwriting. xstroke seems to understand my grafitti characters, so I'm assuming the default config is grafitti (there's a .conf in /etc you can change with character mappings). Eek... Are there tools that'll let you retrain it? The Agenda originally used Xscribble, and then moved to Xmerlin, which was WAY better. At least with the latter, you could run an application on your desktop to teach it your own strokes. On the Zaurus, the handwriting is /fully/ trainable (ie, you can even remove default strokes, rather than just create alternatives), and is managed on the device. If Xmerlin is available for iPaq (I'd be surprised if it wasn't), I strongly suggest trying it out. In the meantime, though, I would like to check out Xstroke and see how it compares. Suposedly familiar is binary and library compatible with the debian arm packages, but I still need to try that out. Sounds about right. :) Overall I have to say this rocks. Being a geek I wouldn't mind having a newer model with more storage (I think the newer ones have 64mb flash/64mb ram, or 64mb flash/32mb ram, or similar), but 16mb seems to be more than enough for a good config. I'm ok with the 32MB in my Zaurus, but that's only because someone came out with an entirely SD-card-based ROM, so rather than having 16MB of RAM and 16MB of storage (like Sharp's 1.10 ROM), or ~27MB of RAM and ~5MB of storage (like their 1.11 alternative), I've got ~32MB of RAM and 64MB of storage. :) Of course, after installing almost 20 IPKG's, including 3 really large games, a VNC server, and Konqueror, as well as a 5MB text-to-speech program and a 20MB install of GCC, I've only got about 12MB of space left. Thank goodness for the CF
Re: [vox-tech] familiar review
On Fri, Mar 15, 2002 at 02:52:36PM -0800, Geoffrey Herteg wrote: To answer Bill's question about the filesystem layout in Familiar, here's the scoop: Thanks. :) / is a JFFS2 partition mounted RW. RW?! Yeah, but don't worry, it only gets written to when you make a change to something like /etc/foo or something else not in /var or /tmp. Similar to the Agenda. Here's what the Zaurus has, on /my/ particular device. (Again, I'm running an alternative ROMdisk) # mount /dev/mtdblock0 on / type cramfs (ro) 16MB internal Flash ROM /proc on /proc type proc (rw) /proc /dev/ram1 on /dev type minix (rw) /dev /dev/mtdblock1 on /home type ext2 (rw,sync,noatime)64MB removable SD card none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw) /dev/pts /dev/hda1 on /usr/mnt.rom/cf type vfat (rw)64MB removable CF card # df Filesystem 1k-blks Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/ram1 44 24 20 55% /dev /dev/mtdblock1 58977 43804 12128 78% /home /dev/hda162436 21994 40442 35% /usr/mnt.rom/cf In comparison, here's the Agenda VR3 (running a non-altered ROM) $ mount /dev/hdc2 on / type unknown (rw,noatime) 16MB internal Flash proc on /proc type proc (rw) /proc $ df Filesystem 1k-blks Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/mtdblock03328 3072256 92% /flash Where ROM lives for reset It's odd that / isn't listed on either unit's df output... -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] zlib vulnerability
On Mon, Mar 11, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0800, Foo Lim wrote: A friend brought this to my attention: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=70u=/cn/20020311/tc_cn/flaw_leaves_linux_computers_vulnerable Hehe... I don't have time to dig, but it appears a fix is already available for Debian. ;) Get:2 http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main zlib1g 1:1.1.3-5.1 -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
On Fri, Mar 01, 2002 at 10:51:14AM -0800, Henry House wrote: but that doesn't mean we couldn't host our own! Let's do it! Bill, what do you say? Err... Uh. Since the dotfiles site /does/ seem to still exist, I think it'd just make sense to contribute there. shrug -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] more php questions
On Sun, Mar 03, 2002 at 12:20:00PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: how does one import files of functions into a php document? ?php include(whatever.php); ? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
On Thu, Feb 28, 2002 at 08:55:52PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: although -- wait. isn't there a dotfile.org already? dotfiles.org. Seem to have gone away and been replaced with a big 'coming soon' page. :( Domain Name: DOTFILES.ORG Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact: Momoi, Yasunari (YM233) [EMAIL PROTECTED] BUG.ORG 2-27-1-601 Ayase Adachi-ku Tokyo 120-0005 JP +81-90-7731-5086 (FAX) none Record last updated on 08-Jan-2002. Record expires on 01-Mar-2004. Record created on 01-Mar-2000. Database last updated on 1-Mar-2002 07:48:00 EST. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] How is lugod.org put together?
On Wed, Feb 27, 2002 at 10:22:47PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: Pete et al, The lugod site looks (and works) nicely. Thanks! :) What technologies are you using? That is, how and who did your graphics. Marianne Waage using Photoshop and me using The Gimp. Do you use some sort of a web templating system, lugod has a similar look to other open source sites. I rolled our own PHP code for the look-and-feel... Is the mailing list major domo? What do you use to archive and search the mailing list? Anything I'm missing I believe the lists are running Mailman. The search engine is Mnogo. These were set up by Pete Salzman and Henry House. Thanks! :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] attention installfest attendees: X woes on laptops
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 03:11:58PM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: snip if anyone here is aware of any distributions that carry 4.2.*, i'd like to make a list for my own personal knowledge. please post your info. :) If possible, it might be useful just to burn a CDROM every couple of months which contains Debian packages and RPMs (possibly numerous ones... one for SuSE, one for RedHat, one for Mandrake, etc.) of the latest XF86 4.x, and possible even have a copy of the absolute latest source tarball... Just a suggestion :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] php wonders. (was on vox)
On Wed, Feb 20, 2002 at 11:58:10PM -0500, Erik Mullinix wrote: Hello. While working on learning PHP. I have been having problems getting the ability to do php off of apache. SuSE 7.3, Apache 1.3.20 with php 4.0.6 I get the method POST is not supported. Is this when submitting a form? (eg, clicking on the 'type=submit' form widget on a form with 'method=post') Or is it simply when you try to load a PHP file (eg, asking the browser to fetch http://somedomain/somefile.php) ? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] usb woes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:45:36AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: turns out that USB hard drives are accessed via scsi device files. Yep. My CF card reader (which connects via USB) appears as /dev/sda1 -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] usb woes
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:57:12AM -0800, nbs wrote: On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 01:45:36AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: turns out that USB hard drives are accessed via scsi device files. Yep. My CF card reader (which connects via USB) appears as /dev/sda1 PS - Interestingly, the CF cards themselves appear as IDE drives on the Zaurus (eg, /dev/hda1 :) ) (And the SD card appears as /dev/mmcda1 ... and the 'RAM' filesystem appears as /dev/mtdblock1 ) Wacky wacky :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] ssh remote commands
I'm trying to set up remote access to the PC on my LAN which has the Rio MP3 player connected to it. Unfortunately, the command which talks to it, rio, requires root access. As an exercise in safety, I'd like to set up password-less access to the '/usr/bin/rio' command on that system via SSH. Unfortunately, I just noticed this in sshd's man page: command=command Specifies that the command is executed whenever this key is used for authentication. The command supplied by the user (if any) is ignored. ... ^^^ This means that I can't do anything like: ssh root@zen rio -d ssh root@zen rio -za ssh root@zen rio -u somefile.mp3 Now, I can set up 'sudo' to let particular users access the 'rio' command, but unfortunately, unless you've ran the command very recently (eg, in the last 5 minutes!), they're forced to enter their sudo'ing password. ie: ssh myself@zen sudo rio -d will ask me for 'myself's password. What's worse is, since this is via an 'ssh' command execution, when I type my password, it's echoed back! Looking at these issues, and the fact that one will need to be scp'ing files back and forth to the host with the Rio connected to it ANYWAY, I'm thinking ssh or ssh/sudo isn't going to be what I need. I guess I should look into riofs and see if I can do some sort of weird double remote mounting. Or somehting. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ssh remote commands
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 03:19:43AM -0800, nbs wrote: snip Looking at these issues, and the fact that one will need to be scp'ing files back and forth to the host with the Rio connected to it ANYWAY, I'm thinking ssh or ssh/sudo isn't going to be what I need. I guess I should look into riofs and see if I can do some sort of weird double remote mounting. Or somehting. :) Bah! That won't work, either. :^( http://www.cs.stedwards.edu/~hazel/rio/ states: ... at the moment, riofs is read-only ... :^( Any other suggestions? (Henry's lpr idea was interesting, but I don't think it'll handle deleting stuff.) -bill! glad that USB and CF/SD cards are becoming more the norm, and bizarre printer port access to extremely proprietary flash file systems which break your SmartMedia to the point where you need to find a Windows box to run some odd reformatter so that you can continue to use the card in your digital camera... gasp are becoming less the norm ;) ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ssh remote commands
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 06:25:42AM -0800, Charles Polisher wrote: Can you clear the SUID bit and add the device to fstab with user-mountable permissions? Maybe even use a chrooted mount-point? Just thinking out loud... It doesn't access the rio via a /dev/ device. It accesses it _directly_. (It took me a while, some stracing, and finally some reading of the rio software homepage, to remember this.) :^/ -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] misc. XF86 4 upgrade and accel 3D issues
On Fri, Feb 15, 2002 at 09:33:32AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: too bad you didn't look in the linux gamers' howto. it would've saved you from head-pounding and ircing!:) Actually, I did hit your howto various times (both via Google... even got the Russian version once :), and while doing a 'zgrep' in my local HOWTO dir :) ) snip use auto-apt. i think i posted this once before, but it's such a nice trick that it deserves to be posted again. Kewl. Thanks! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] reading files into a web page
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 03:14:02AM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: Better way would be with PHP: ... pre ?php $fp = fopen(/www/pcgm/bulletins, r); fpassthru($fp); ? /pre ... Or simpler yet: ?php include(file); ? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] reading files into a web page
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:13:12PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: On Sat, 2 Feb 2002, nbs wrote: Or simpler yet: ?php include(file); ? include does PHP translation, which Peter may not want. It's especially fatal if you're including a user-posted data. fpassthru is safer from security point of view. Indeed. I never have any user-posted data on sites where I've used PHP, and I often _do_ want the contents PHP-parsed. I'm guessing fpassthru may be faster, though, so I should probably look into using it in some places. Thx :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] PDF/PS formating to save paper
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 12:19:40PM -0800, Ryan wrote: I'd like to be able to processs my PDF or PS files to shrink pages form the orignal and fit 4 of them on each page of a new document, anyone know how i miggh pull this off? Dont have time to give details, but I think psnup is what you want. Check the man page. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
[vox-tech] ZIP drive woes
I found some old ZIP disks I had backed up some of my websites on, and thought I'd poke around and see what I had. Unfortunately, when I went to use my drive (an older, PPA-style 100MB drive), I was faced with the following: # insmod ppa Using /lib/modules/2.2.18pre21/scsi/ppa.o ppa: Version 2.05 (for Linux 2.2.x) ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use EPP 32 bit ppa: Found device at ID 6, Attempting to use SPP ppa: Communication established with ID 6 using SPP scsi2 : Iomega VPI0 (ppa) interface scsi : 2 hosts. Vendor: IOMEGAModel: ZIP 100 Rev: J.03 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 02 Detected scsi removable disk sda at scsi2, channel 0, id 6, lun 0 sda : READ CAPACITY failed. sda : status = 0, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08 sda : extended sense code = 6 sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. sda: test WP failed, assume Write Protected unable to read partition table The ppa module remains loaded, but whenever I try to mount a disk, it fails too: $ mount /mnt/zip [ in fstab, it's /dev/sda1 as ext2 fs ] sda : READ CAPACITY failed. sda : status = 0, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08 sda : extended sense code = 6 sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. sda: test WP failed, assume Write Protected unable to read partition table mount: block device /dev/sda1 is write-protected, mounting read-only sda : READ CAPACITY failed. sda : status = 0, message = 00, host = 0, driver = 08 sda : extended sense code = 6 sda : block size assumed to be 512 bytes, disk size 1GB. sda: test WP failed, assume Write Protected unable to read partition table mount: /dev/sda1 is not a valid block device I tried mounting them as DOS disks, too (/dev/sda4 as vfat fs), and I was sure that the lp kernel module was disabled before I tried doing the insmod ppa. Could it be that my dusty old Iomega drive has finally kicked the bit bucket? Or perhaps all four of the disks I'm trying to read are dead!? (I know one of them worked fairly recently... I believe it was the disk I tested the Zip drive on when I put this P133 system back together) FYI I'm running Debian 2.2 and kernel 2.2.18pre21, which came with it. I didn't build the kernel on this box. Looking at the kern. config file /boot/config-2.2.18pre21, I'm not sure there's any point in doing so: ... CONFIG_SCSI=y CONFIG_BLK_DEV_SD=y ... CONFIG_SCSI_PPA=m ... CONFIG_PRINTER=m ... Any ideas? Or should I go hunt down a new drive? -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ZIP drive woes
On Sat, Feb 02, 2002 at 07:20:06PM -0800, ME wrote: insmod load a module, but does not do deps. snip Why do I /always/ forget about modprobe!? :) Thanks! :) snip Also, see if you can dd the device and see if the drive comes on. # dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero bs=1024k count=10 Odd... No light. Just this: # dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/zero bs=1024k count=10 dd: /dev/sda: Input/output error 0+0 records in 0+0 records out snip Does the drive click-click-click-clik a lot while running? Fortunately, no. :) Thx! -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] [C newbie]C program is acting weird...
On Thu, Jan 31, 2002 at 11:10:48PM -0800, Mark K. Kim wrote: What do you *want* it to do? Including numbers will need some math trickery. The place with 'z' and 'a' is where it's picking a letter between 'a' and 'z', but since numbers aren't in a sequential order in the ASCII system, you can do something like expanding the range and 'if'-ing the range for a letter or number. Or use that nifty ? operator that I never use ;) ;) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] Why not APC? (wasTripp Lite UPS)
On Wed, Jan 30, 2002 at 09:35:07AM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good for you. A UPS is a nice thing. Why are APC units to be avoided? My APC's been working great for the 2+ years I've had it, too. -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ksh question
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 04:38:03PM -0600, Jay Strauss wrote: I guess its guaranteed not to get any response either :( Sorry ;) Only times I ever use ksh is when logging into Sun servers at work, and I don't do any shell scripting on them. (I really miss the tcsh/bash features I got used to, too...) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] ksh question
On Fri, Jan 25, 2002 at 06:55:56AM -0800, Stephen M. Helms wrote: nbs wrote: {snip} Only times I ever use ksh is when logging into Sun servers at work, and I don't do any shell scripting on them. (I really miss the tcsh/bash features I got used to, too...) Why not just type bash, tcsh, sh, csh, etc... after you log into the Sun server at work? bash environment is borked. (won't get into that :) ) hey, tcsh seems to work, tho! :) at least, at first glance. :) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] gimp question
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:39:45AM -0800, Peter Jay Salzman wrote: is there a way to define a short cut or macro with gimp? i use the enhance filter alot, for when i resize pictures. is there a way to map, say, control-E to this filter? Open the menu with that command, place the mouse over it, and press the key combo. you want mapped to it. You'll see the menu change, right before your eyes! :) This is a fairly standard GTK-ism, by the way. Another thing you can do is pop the menu open into its own window. Get to the menu you want and then click the little dashed line which appears at the top of the menu. Voila! The menu will appear in it's own real window, which will remain open until you specifically close it (either with a window manager close (eg, the X button at the top left or top right, depending on the manager and theme chosen), or click the dashed line at the top of the menu in its window). also, is there a way to make gimp show more of the image when you're using the enhance filter? it shows a very small portion. hard to believe anyone would find the little tiny portion of the upper left hand corner useful when figuring out how much to sharpen the image by. Sharpen, for example, doesn't appear to have any way to 'zoom out'... you're stuck previewing your enhancement at a 1:1 (100%) zoom. But, there ARE scrollbars, so you'll be able to pan around and see what various pars of the image will look like. I do admit it is quite silly that, while you CAN resize the Sharpen dialog window, the preview doesn't expand to fit. :^( -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech
Re: [vox-tech] gimp question
On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 11:45:35AM -0800, nbs wrote: snip Another thing you can do is pop the menu open into its own window. Get to the menu you want and then click the little dashed line which appears at the top of the menu. snip BTW, this is a GTK+-ism, as well. Qt has a similar feature, as well, as do some other, older GUI toolkits. (I forget which, though... they often have a 'thumbtack' ('pushpin') icon at the top of the menu) -bill! ___ vox-tech mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.lugod.org/mailman/listinfo/vox-tech