Re: Spam auto-identification

[Trevor Lee]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Since my ISP has started using Spam Assassin most spam comes down 
> with a spam tag which enables me to quickly dump it in bulk.
> 
> One problem is that some Federal govt departments insist on using
> the type of formats and setouts beloved by spammers. 
>  
> Paul.

There is an easy way to fix this. Email your ISP and ask them to 
whitelist anything from .gov.au . All they need is this line in 
their spamassassin config:

whitelist_from *gov.au

It's a lot easier than getting a Government department to change 
they way they construct emails, trust me :)

Regards

Trevor Lee
Highway 1 Internet Solutions

Re: Spam auto-identification

[Onno Benschop]

On Thu, 2003-06-19 at 07:27, Paul Weaver wrote:
> Since my ISP has started using Spam Assassin most spam comes down with a
> spam tag which enables me to quickly dump it in bulk.

[..stuff deleted..]

> So far the Australian PM's Dept is the only organisation I have found on the
> internet which deliberately does not include information in the subject line
> of routine press releases.

And your point was?

Seriously, if you have a problem why not take it up with the originator
of the email - perhaps start a grass-roots campaign - get a petition
going - do a talk at a WAMUG meeting - talk to your local
representative.

Alternatively, you could just ignore the whole lot - like I suspect I
should have when you sent the message in the first place :-)

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Spam auto-identification

[Paul Weaver]

Since my ISP has started using Spam Assassin most spam comes down with a
spam tag which enables me to quickly dump it in bulk.

One problem is that some Federal govt departments insist on using the type
of formats and setouts beloved by spammers. One of the worst offenders are
media releases from the PM's dept. These never have anything in the subject
line and presumably this suggests to Spam Assassin the message is useless
propaganda garbage deserving to be trashed.

My theory is the subject headings are not included in the PM's releases
because it creates difficulty in back-checking on his earlier political
utterances. Part of the "dumbing down of the nation" plan?

So far the Australian PM's Dept is the only organisation I have found on the
internet which deliberately does not include information in the subject line
of routine press releases.

Paul. 

Mozilla not sending email ??

[Stephen Chape]

Hi there,

I have just installed Mozilla and am very happy with it, except for one
thing. I can download email, but it will not send email.

The status window just sits there forever with the little bands racing
across it. I have checked all the settings (which it seems to have auto
imported from Netscape), but cannot find anything out of place.

Any ideas would be welcome ??
I don't want to dump it just because of this.
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Entourage address list; alternate e-mail clients; spam filters

[Angus Russell]

Hello

I seem to recall that it is possible to choose whether or not Entourage adds
all new e-addresses to the address book, but damned if I can find this
option anywhere. Can someone tell me if I am hallucinating, or just being
incompetent and suffering major memory failure please :_)

Can anyone assist please - my address book is loaded with spam addresses
:-(((

Does anyone have any experience of the following e-mail clients:

PowerMail
Mailsmith 
GyazMail

Does anyone have any experience of the following spam filters:

SpamSieve
PostArmor (formerly known as MailArmor)
POPMonitor
POPFile

Why do I do this (if anyone cares!) - well basically fed up with Entourage,
and if they are trashing IE then Entourage can follow as far as I care, and
yet Mail is nowhere up in terms of features.

Palm is way better than either iCal or Entourage calendar function.

I think Apple has a way to go on some of these apps. At least Safari is good
- although I think they could learn a bit from iCab in terms of
functionality, especially what is possible from a mouse click held.

Many thanks

Angus

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Re: font

[Onno Benschop]

On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 12:21, ECU Account wrote:
> Can anyone tell me the name of the font attached?

> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Untitled ?





You'd best supply us with a URL, so those inclined to supply you with a
useful response can do so...


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Re: G5's

[ECU Account]

Thank you DJ Grafix & Design for your informative email; just the info I was
looking for. As you can see from all the responses to my email, (ranging in
usefulness) there is always something better around the corner. But if
someone like myself are going to get a new machine (and presumably not
another one for a LONG time) then it is logical to gather as much info as
possible before purchasing anything.

Cheers, Robbie.
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> From: DJ Grafix & Design <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:26:17 +0800
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: G5's
> 
> on 18/6/03 10:05, Mark Secker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
>> If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer
>> better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I
>> purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new
>> PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17" Powerbook would have
>> been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would
>> have had 3 months of down time.
> 
> Normally I completely agree with this logic. In this case though there are a
> couple of things that are very important that need to be taken into
> consideration. 
> 
> The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
> reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
> kick the snot outta the current G4's.
> 
> The redesigned motherboard and memory architecture of the new motherboards.
> If I were looking at purchasing a new machine I could certainly wait a few
> extra months for a redesigned motherboard with a much faster frontside bus
> than is currently available on any Mac.
> 
> While waiting for the Holy Grail when it comes to computers is a losing game
> I do believe that there are times where it makes sense to wait for a bit.I
> believe this is one of those times.
> 
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font

[ECU Account]

Can anyone tell me the name of the font attached?


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Neverwinters Night tech Demo (local URL)

[Mark Secker]

To download the tech demo go here:



This will be available until no later 5:00pm Friday 20th June.

this demo will let you play the first level and is primaraly to see 
if you computer is up to speck and to give you some training time 
before the full release - OK so not much good for those who've 
already thrashed the PC version ;)



note:
1: OSX only

2: this file 240MB and expands to over 600MB.

3: the server is OS 9 so if there is a problem with the shortened 
name copy and past this on to your download:


Neverwinter Nights Tech Demo.dmg.bz2
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Re: G5's

[Mark Secker]

The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
kick the snot outta the current G4's.


BUT it won't do it while you don't have it on your desk..

horses for courses of course but if your old computer doesn't make 
the grade NOW (defunct, won't run needed software, etc) then it's not 
going to put much bread on the table NOW compared to a new, current 
model.
However much a vapourware processor may promise you in rich rewards 
in some far flung future place it's only good if'n'if you/your 
business can survive that long.


Anyway hands up anyone who's going to by a first release G5 
anyway?... early birds get the worms.. and the bugs ...and the 
product recalls ...and the premium prices


Of course for those of us in mobile computing environments 
(PowerBook users) will probably not see the G5 (or what ever comes 
after the G4) until some very long months later once battery & 
cooling tech/design issues are sorted and Apple have first milked the 
early adopters in the premium priced desktop market dry.


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Re: Question about Spam

[Mark Secker]

On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 11:18, Mark Secker wrote:

but the best way to not get spam is to
avoid using your real details in the first place.


Perhaps some actual research to backup some of your statements would
assist:


research? we don't need no stinking research

Actually the research is self done given on and off email 
accounts/network news from 85 to 87 and constant e-mail/internet 
access from 87 onwards.


Anyway not surprisingly, it says much like I said just a bit more 
elegantly - and its a little less dated - my views being skewed by 
having received spam from a time when WWW was non existent /new and 
that spam came via open list servers and news groups.


So again, confirmed by the research, configure your readers/browsers 
to munged but human readable reply addresses.



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Re: G5's

[DJ Grafix & Design]

on 18/6/03 10:05, Mark Secker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer
> better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I
> purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new
> PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17" Powerbook would have
> been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would
> have had 3 months of down time.

Normally I completely agree with this logic. In this case though there are a
couple of things that are very important that need to be taken into
consideration. 

The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
kick the snot outta the current G4's.

The redesigned motherboard and memory architecture of the new motherboards.
If I were looking at purchasing a new machine I could certainly wait a few
extra months for a redesigned motherboard with a much faster frontside bus
than is currently available on any Mac.

While waiting for the Holy Grail when it comes to computers is a losing game
I do believe that there are times where it makes sense to wait for a bit. I
believe this is one of those times.

Re: Question about Spam

[Onno Benschop]

On Wed, 2003-06-18 at 11:18, Mark Secker wrote:
> but the best way to not get spam is to 
> avoid using your real details in the first place.

Perhaps some actual research to backup some of your statements would
assist:




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Re: Need you assistance guys!

[Cal Conkey]

O.K. guys,

Not much of a response from you'all but nonetheless I found a solution 
that seems to be working. I found another ATI Mach64 video card laying 
around, which is a VR Rage II version and it is working great in my G3 
Beige (fingers crossed!). So my next question is whether or not anyone 
out there has another one of these old boards that I could use in my 
other G3 Beige that you would be willing to part with? Anyone? Or 
perhaps knows where I could find one?


Thanks,

Cal Conkey


On Monday, June 16, 2003, at 02:25 PM, Cal Conkey wrote:


Hi guys,

I know that this isn't a very exciting subject but I could really use
your help on this one!

I think that the video display card I am looking for is a ATI Xclaim GA
or 3D card. That seems to be the ones that the Media 100 support specs
recommend for the G3 Beige. Any ideas where I could get one secondhand
or cheap?

Thanks,

Cal Conkey


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NeverWinter Nights Beta....

[Mark Secker]

A few people have asked for this so hopefully I'll have it on the 
server before end of office hours


Despite being on prime high bandwidth here both the main site and 
mirrors are getting hammered. I have, at 25% completed, an estimated 
download remaining time of about 10 hours!!


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Re: Question about Spam

[Mark Secker]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathalie Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hi:

I was listening to Radio National this morning, and they were
saying how easy it is to forge a return email address.

I was wondering--could I forge a "bounce back" message to spammers
from my ISP saying that my address is no longer valid? Would that
get me off their lists? Has anyone out there ever tried this?

Just an idea I thought I would throw out there...


> Nathalie


Trevors points are good points but the best way to not get spam is to 
avoid using your real details in the first place.


Never subscribe to an open mailing list - that is a list that will 
show the full & correct e-mail address of it's subscribers in a text 
format, fortunately these are now few and far between.


Never ever ever EVER EVER put your full & correct e-mail address on 
any web based public forum or usenews news group even if it is a 
legit "professional" news group or a commercial site


Use deliberately munged e-mail address for any public forum - if your 
address gets harvested by a machine then it sends the junk to a false 
address (bounce, bounce, bounce) if a legit human user wants to send 
you a reply then one assumes they will have the were-with-all to spot 
the deliberate error (or you put in, say, "remove 'nospam' to 
reply")


So use myname_at_my.domain or [EMAIL PROTECTED] instead of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Fake or munge the details in your browser autofill settings so that 
Autofills don't send out your real address (now I even munge my 
street, town and state), this was my one lapse when I set up my new 
work mac.


I used to get almost no spam until I foolishly used one of my real 
e-mail address (via IE's Autofill) on a forum on the official World 
SuperBikes site... still suffering under the strain of an almost 
instant bombardment of hundreds of Spam, viruses & Trogans (all 
windoze thankfully) and scam e-mails :(



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Re: G5's

[Martin Hill]

At 10:05 AM +0800 18/6/03, Mark Secker wrote:

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


I agree with this, but would think in this case it would be prudent 
to wait for the WWDC keynote on the 23rd *just in case* Steve sheds 
more light on the subject with shipping dates etc.


A 5 day wait is reasonable considering the high probability that 
he'll say something. If at that point he still doesn't announce 
specific dates and products and you need a new system now, then 
absolutely go ahead and buy now! Otherwise, as others has stressed, 
you will always be waiting for the Next Big Thing.


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Re: G5's

[Matt Huitson]

The only caveat to this discussion would be impending announcements 
from the horse's mouth itself - and with Apple's WWDC just 5 days away 
I'd be postponing any hardware purchases till I heard what Steve puts 
on the table at San Francisco.


Regards,
Matt.


On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Greg Hosking wrote:


If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


i'd have to agree with this. i remember 2 years ago there was the
promise of the first firewire multichannel audio interfaces coming out,
i was thinking of waiting for such beasts, but decided to go for a PCI
solution that was working & proven at the time. It took over a year for
the firewire models to come out on full production. SO glad i didn't
wait... for a YEAR!

g


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NeverWinter Nights Beta....

[Mark Secker]

For Mac RPGers or anyone with a MegaTokyo Pirogoth fantasy the new 
Mac Neverwinter Nights Beta is out today.

Unfortunatly for those without ASDL it's 250Meg!!
I'm in the process of downloading it now so I may put it on the 
public volume of my server for those who wish to get it from a local 
source.


e-mail me directly and if there's enough interest I'll let the list know

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Re: G5's

[Greg Hosking]

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


i'd have to agree with this. i remember 2 years ago there was the 
promise of the first firewire multichannel audio interfaces coming out, 
i was thinking of waiting for such beasts, but decided to go for a PCI 
solution that was working & proven at the time. It took over a year for 
the firewire models to come out on full production. SO glad i didn't 
wait... for a YEAR!


g

Re: G5's

[Mark Secker]

Does anyone know if these G5's will be out before September???
~



yes, I'm sure some people know if these will (or won't) be out by 
September... BUT they're not telling us, yet.


;)

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer 
better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I 
purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new 
PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17" Powerbook would have 
been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would 
have had 3 months of down time.



Robert 
Griffin

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Re: Question about Spam

[Trevor Lee]

--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Nathalie Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi:
> 
> I was listening to Radio National this morning, and they were
> saying how easy it is to forge a return email address.
> 
> I was wondering--could I forge a "bounce back" message to spammers
> from my ISP saying that my address is no longer valid? Would that
> get me off their lists? Has anyone out there ever tried this?
> 
> Just an idea I thought I would throw out there...
> 
> Nathalie

Hi Nathalie,

There are actually quite a few PC based programs which do this for 
you automatically, mailwasher being one I think. There are probably 
some for macs as well, I'm not sure.

I am not a big fan of these for 2 reasons

1) The email address that a spam message comes from is very often 
faked. Thus, if you bounce mail back to it, it won't get to the 
sender anyway.

2) It just creates a whole pile of extra mail flowing around the 
internet. I am 'postmaster' for nearly all of our mail servers here, 
and that means I get all the bouncebacks which the mailer-daemon 
(ie, the virtual user that sends you an email when one that you sent 
was delayed, or couldn't be delivered (1000's per day). The problem 
I have is that if you fake a message from the ISP that your address 
doesn't exist, here is the path it follows.

1) Email from your computer from 'Postmaster' eg mailer-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to the spammers 'From' address. eg 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to say that [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not exist.

2) Hotmail rejects that message because [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not 
exist. This bounces back to [EMAIL PROTECTED] , which is poor 
old me. 

So unfortunately, it doesn't achieve much except generate more 
email. That is why the spammer rarely, if not ever, sends from an 
email address that they check

Well, thats my opinion anyway.

Regards

Trevor Lee
Highway 1 Internet Solutions

Question about Spam

[Nathalie Collins]

Hi:

I was listening to Radio National this morning, and they were saying how
easy it is to forge a return email address.

I was wondering--could I forge a "bounce back" message to spammers from my
ISP saying that my address is no longer valid? Would that get me off their
lists? Has anyone out there ever tried this?

Just an idea I thought I would throw out there...

Nathalie


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