Re: Online Banking

[Doug Wilson]

on 25/8/03 23:15, Doug Wilson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The most common problem affects business users of the site. Business users
> have the ability under the Pay Anyone feature to set repeating payments.
> Under Safari that feature doesn't work. Personal account holders using the
> Pay Anyone feature don't have any problems since the Personal Accounts Pay
> Anyone section doesn't allow for repeating payments.
> 
> This is different to the Other Accounts feature which is incompatible with
> all Mac browsers to this point.

I know it's bad form to reply to myself but need to clarify that I was
talking about Westpac. I'm can't be sure if the problems with BankWest are
the same as the Westpac problems since I'm not a BankWest customer.

Transitioning to OS X

[Shay Telfer]

Hi...

Thought some people might find this useful, step by step instructions 
for transitioning to Mac OS X from Mac OS 9:




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Re: Online Banking

[Doug Wilson]

on 25/8/03 20:40, David de la Hunty at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Tried Savari . 1.0 (85) tonight with Bankwest online banking & no probs.
> 
> David

The most common problem affects business users of the site. Business users
have the ability under the Pay Anyone feature to set repeating payments.
Under Safari that feature doesn't work. Personal account holders using the
Pay Anyone feature don't have any problems since the Personal Accounts Pay
Anyone section doesn't allow for repeating payments.

This is different to the Other Accounts feature which is incompatible with
all Mac browsers to this point.

Re: Online Banking

[David de la Hunty]

Tried Savari . 1.0 (85) tonight with Bankwest online banking & no probs.

David

:From: Ken Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Date: Fri Aug 22, 2003  08:36:58 Australia/Perth
Subject: Re: Online Banking


I am currently using Safari and have had no problems accessing 
Westpac's web

site.

I regularly use the pay anyone feature and have had no trouble to date
(touch wood)!

I will however, be on the look out for problems with this site.


Ken 

Re: Web Browser Problem

[Dark Servant]

Ok check up on the HTML.  Not sure what it means.  Still trying to fix 
the problem.

Here is the error report
Warning (1/1):  is missing.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "BGCOLOR" 
must be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "LINK" must 
be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "VLINK" 
must be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "ALINK" 
must be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "TEXT" must 
be enclosed in quotes.

Warning (207/1): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag .
Error (208/1): The tag  is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict".
Error (213/51): In the tag  the attribute "WIDTH" is not 
allowed.
Warning (239/1): The attribute "WRAP" is not allowed for the tag 
.
Error (250/1): In the tag  white space is missing as separator 
after the attribute "VALUE".

JavaScript Error (277/19): Primary expression expected
Warning (401/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "NAME" 
must be enclosed in quotes.

Error (402/20): The attribute "cosplan" is not part of HTML.
Error (445/7): The end tag  is missing.
Error (448/1): The start tag for  can't be found.

It does work on other macs though.  Just not mine.
Ruben A. Franke


Ruben wrote:

When I click  the button nothing happens.  I thought I mentioned
that before but I checked my Email and I didn't.  I have also tried
deleting all my cookies and clearing all browser caches.


Yes, Safari on some pages seems to fail to recognise button clicks on
form buttons, possibly due to some JavaScript interaction that Safari
doesn't fully support.

I wonder if the pages HTML is valid. Can you open it in iCab and 
check?


A commercial page with valid HTML? Have you ever found one, Shay?  ;-)

The uwa webct "compose message" page throws the following errors:

==
Warning (1/1):  is missing.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "BGCOLOR"
must be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "LINK" must
be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "VLINK" 
must

be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "ALINK" 
must

be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (2/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "TEXT" must
be enclosed in quotes.
Warning (207/1): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag 
.
Warning (208/1): The tag  should no longer be used since HTML 
4.0.

Note (208/1): Support for font selection (tag ) is disabled.
Error (213/51): In the tag  the attribute "WIDTH" is not
allowed.
Warning (231/1): The attribute "WRAP" is not allowed for the tag
.
Error (242/1): In the tag  white space is missing as separator
after the attribute "VALUE".
Warning (393/1): In the tag  the value of the attribute "NAME"
must be enclosed in quotes.
Error (394/20): The attribute "cosplan" is not part of HTML.
Error (437/7): The end tag  is missing.
Error (440/1): The start tag for  can't be found.
===

Curiously, though, Safari (v85) posts a message just fine on UWA's 
WebCT
from here. There's either something different about Curtin's version, 
or

something different about Ruben's system. Odd that IE doesn't work for
him either. Here, both IE and Safari work, but Icab can't post (though
it views the pages just fine).

UWA webct page says "Version 3.8 Campus Edition"
Curtin's webct page, whilst it looks different, also proclaims itself 
to

be version 3.8

In summary: This wasn't terribly helpful, was it? I have no idea what's
going on, either; just providing datapoints.

Lara

Re: Another hit against Microsoft

[Onno Benschop]

On Mon, 2003-08-25 at 16:56, Katinka Mills wrote:
> Anything is better than M$ only wish the companies that manufactured
> engineering tools like Protel would listen (that is all that keeps
> this machine using M$ software)

While I'm sure you're familiar with it, perhaps it slipped past. Have
you heard of VMware? It's the only way I run the ATO ECI software and
the abomination known as MYOB. The rest of the time I use and prefer
Debian.

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FW: And yet more anti M$ from the USA

[Katinka Mills]

One of the most interesting things about the recent Microsoft double whammy
was that the mass media articles in the USA identified them as being
exclusively a Microsoft Windows problems that did not affect Linux and Mac
users. Better yet, the association of "Microsoft" with "evil" was frequently
contained in the headline. As Martha Stewart would say, "And that's a good
thing."

Regards,

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And yet more anti M$ from the USA

[Katinka Mills]

One of the most interesting things about the recent Microsoft double whammy
was that the mass media articles in the USA identified them as being
exclusively a Microsoft Windows problems that did not affect Linux and Mac
users. Better yet, the association of "Microsoft" with "evil" was frequently
contained in the headline. As Martha Stewart would say, "And that's a good
thing."

Regards,

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Re: Another hit against Microsoft

[Malcolm McCallum]

Wipe that smile off your face McCallum this is serious :-)
Mac
On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 05:28  PM, Matthew Healey wrote:


On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 4:56 PM, Katinka Mills wrote:


Macintouch 25.8.03

Cnet Asia reports on a Chinese initiative to eliminate Windows
dependence:

A new policy from China's governing body states that all government
ministries must buy only locally produced software at the next 
upgrade

cycle.


Snip

ROFLAMO, this is great only for one problem, what will replace it, I 
know of

no "locally produced" software from china. Most of the *nix's are
international collaborations business in
China will start making OS and Office software> Anything is better 
than M$
only wish the companies that manufactured engineering tools like 
Protel

would listen (that is all that keeps this machine using M$ software)


They will probably start with this 

 And then add a home grown office package.

Boom. Say bye bye to profitable MS software in China.

- Matt

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Re: Another hit against Microsoft

[Matthew Healey]

On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 4:56 PM, Katinka Mills wrote:


Macintouch 25.8.03

Cnet Asia reports on a Chinese initiative to eliminate Windows
dependence:

A new policy from China's governing body states that all government
ministries must buy only locally produced software at the next upgrade
cycle.


Snip

ROFLAMO, this is great only for one problem, what will replace it, I 
know of

no "locally produced" software from china. Most of the *nix's are
international collaborations business in
China will start making OS and Office software> Anything is better 
than M$

only wish the companies that manufactured engineering tools like Protel
would listen (that is all that keeps this machine using M$ software)


They will probably start with this 

 And then add a home grown office package.

Boom. Say bye bye to profitable MS software in China.

- Matt

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Quote of the Day

[Matthew Healey]

"Open Source is the guillotine, Linux is the blade; IBM gives it weight 
and Apple sharpens it. " - Some Guy On Slashdot


Pretty much sums it up don't you think?

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RE: Another hit against Microsoft

[Katinka Mills]

> -Original Message-
> From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bob
> Howells
> Sent: Monday, 25 August 2003 4:55 PM
> To: WAMUG Mailing List
> Subject: Another hit against Microsoft
>
>
> Macintouch 25.8.03
>
> Cnet Asia reports on a Chinese initiative to eliminate Windows
> dependence:
>
> A new policy from China's governing body states that all government
> ministries must buy only locally produced software at the next upgrade
> cycle.
>
>   The State Council's move, aimed at breaking the dominance
> of Microsoft on desktop computers,
> will eliminate Microsoft's Windows operating system and
> Office productivity suite from hundreds of thousands of
> Chinese government computers over the next few years.

ROFLAMO, this is great only for one problem, what will replace it, I know of
no "locally produced" software from china. Most of the *nix's are
international collaborations  Anything is better than M$
only wish the companies that manufactured engineering tools like Protel
would listen (that is all that keeps this machine using M$ software)

Regards,

Kat.
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Re: aiptek cams

[Bob Howells]

And while you are working on those you might like to look at this,
seems to be very useful

http://www.securityspy.com/

Bob

David Choy wrote:

> Yep, it works. you might even be able to get it to work with iChat. You
> will need to download a driver off
> versiontracker(www.versiontracker.com) called macam (freeware).
>
> dave
>
> On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 05:01 Australia/Perth, WAMUG Mailing List
> wrote:
>
> >
> > From: frogontheroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Sun Aug 24, 2003  11:51:48 Australia/Perth
> > Subject:
> >
> >
> > Has anyone out there connected one of those little aiptek palm cams to
> > a mac through USB. I picked one up for a few dollars and want to see
> > if it can connect to my iBook
> > tom samson
> >
> 
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> life. " - Arthur Ashe
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Another hit against Microsoft

[Bob Howells]

Macintouch 25.8.03

Cnet Asia reports on a Chinese initiative to eliminate Windows
dependence:

A new policy from China's governing body states that all government
ministries must buy only locally produced software at the next upgrade
cycle.

  The State Council's move, aimed at breaking the dominance
of Microsoft on desktop computers,
will eliminate Microsoft's Windows operating system and
Office productivity suite from hundreds of thousands of
Chinese government computers over the next few years.

MS Word and Security

[Bob Howells]

>From Macintouch 23.8.03

A BBC story talks about the implications of hidden data in MS Office
documents:

Analysis of hidden information in the so-called Iraq "dodgy dossier"
showed,
among other things, the names of the four civil servants who worked on
it.

  Downing Street press office head Alastair Campbell had to explain who
these
people were to the House of Commons Foreign Affairs Select Committee
investigating the genesis of the plagiarised document.

  "The time when most information tends to leak is when you are using
a document that has a number of revisions or a number of people
working on it," says Nick Spenceley, founder director of computer
forensics firm Inforenz.

  The UK government has now largely abandoned
Microsoft Word
for documents that become public and has turned to documents
created using Adobe Acrobat which uses the Portable Data Format (PDF).

[We were covering this issue in a Microsoft Security and Privacy report
years ago. -MacInTouch]

Re: aiptek cams

[David Choy]

Yep, it works. you might even be able to get it to work with iChat. You 
will need to download a driver off 
versiontracker(www.versiontracker.com) called macam (freeware).


dave

On Monday, Aug 25, 2003, at 05:01 Australia/Perth, WAMUG Mailing List 
wrote:




From: frogontheroad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Sun Aug 24, 2003  11:51:48 Australia/Perth
Subject:


Has anyone out there connected one of those little aiptek palm cams to 
a mac through USB. I picked one up for a few dollars and want to see 
if it can connect to my iBook

tom samson



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CommPost: Free shipping on FireWire 800

[Zytech online store]

If you feel the need for speed we have been able to reduce the price of
our FireWire 800 to just $139 -
http://www.zytech.com.au/firewire/pci/3port/index.html

As a further bonus, exclusive to our mail list, we are offering FREE
SHIPPING on FireWire 800 cards all this week. AND if you want to buy
either a 200GB ($699) or 250GB FireCube 800 ($899) combo drive on the
same order we'll ship this FREE of charge as well -
http://www.zytech.com.au/firewire/drives/firecube/firecube.html

Our FireCube 800 has ports for both FireWire 800 and FireWire 400 (as
well as USB 1&2) & both drives are in stock, ready to ship.

In response to reader demand, we've also added short 30cm FireWire 400
6-6 pin cables ($15 in stock) for daisy-chaining of FireWire devices
and we're also about to add FireWire 800 cables and FireWire 800/400
converters if you find yourself in a situation where you have a
FireWire 800 (only) device and only a FireWire 400 connector to plug
into (or vice-versa) -
http://www.zytech.com.au/firewire/cables/index.html

-

$299 FireWire drive
We have done a bulk order with IBM/Hitachi and are offering 60GB
FireCube drives for just $299.

This special will run only while stock lasts so if you want a low-cost
external or backup drive - grab these while they are still about -
http://www.zytech.com.au/firewire/drives/firecube/firecube.html


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"The G4 comes with 160GB of HD storage. The main drive is an 80GB RAID
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It looks like only a matter of days before Apple releases their
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse. We've previously tested the Microsoft
keyboard and mouse but found both to be terribly frustrating -
hopefully Apple will do a better job! Very often we'd need to reseat
the battery in both the mouse or keyboard otherwise nothing worked -
this is not what you want from either a keyboard or mouse. We are
importing both Bluetooth keyboards and mouse on trial directly from
Taiwan so if these are reliable and solid products, that we can price
well below the Apple or Microsoft product, we will be releasing both of
these in the near future  stay tuned.

Bluetooth modules are now capable of a range of 100m but these
particular modules are still quite expensive so we are sticking with
the 40m range modules for the present - just a reminder these are in
stock at $69 -
http://www.zytech.com.au/comm/usb/index.html

Oh  and yes we still have $29 MS optical wheel mice in stock -
http://www.zytech.com.au/usb/mouse/index.html

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There's been a lot of talk just recently on several of the lists with
people having drive and speed issues on their various machines. If you
are using a Mac .. please, PLEASE go out and get a copy of
DiskWarrior 3. You don't have to buy it from us, but please use grab a
copy and run it regularly  every week if you can.

We wouldn't see 90% of the problems people post if you use this piece
of software in combination with other good maintenance practices. On a
regular basis run one of the several utilities that execute cron tasks
in OS X. We use MacJanitor but there are a number about and you can
just do a search on VersionTracker or MacUpdate.

Next go to Apple Disk Utility and select the FirstAid tab and click on
repair permissions. If you really want to get finicky you can also run
software like System Optimiser which updates all the Unix prebindings,
cleans out cache files and other tasks but this is only an optional
extra - again go to VersionTracker, etc as there are several utilities
that perform these tasks.

Then after you have performed these 2 or 3 maintenance routines, reboot
either from your DiskWarrior CD-ROM or another drive/volume with
DiskWarrior 3 installed and run DiskWarrior over your boot volume.
First of all you'll be amazed (and horrified) at how many minor (or
even major) errors it will find on your drive and when you reboot
you'll be amazed (and happy) at just how fast your System loads and
continue to be happy when you don't need to post to your favourite
group seeking help on remedying the terrible problems you have with
your computer.

DiskWarrior is truly a brilliant piece of software that will keep both
you and your Mac hap

Re: FS: Sonnet Crescendo G3/450 1M L2 $350 (Perth)

[Tim Law]

HI,

I put a Sonnet G4/400 into my 7600 and have not had any problems with the
card itself. 

As for OSX and these cards, I am running OSX 10.1.5 and it does fine, but
really was a pain to get running. It's not so much the card that is the
problem, it's the older machines and OSX requirements. My recommendation
would be to anyone wanting to go down this path is to stick with OS 9x. Then
your machine will fly, you'll still have your finger nails and sanity, and
like Bob says, you can save more for a newer machine that will run OSX
without a problem. 

Tim

on 24/8/03 11:49 AM, R Howells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> 2. Yes you can use OSX...IF you buy Sonnet special OSX extra (
> perhaps A$60),  BUT you
> CANNOT use OS9.2.2.  Use 9.1 or earlier to go with OSX
> 
> While the Sonnet card does a great job, if your starting fresh and
> trying to get up to speed with software as well you need :
> 
> Sonnet Card
> OSX
> OSX sonnet extra
> 256 RAM (at least)  FPM
> and while that is all very nice the cost would put a great deposit
> down on a new Mac

AnotherBANK scam

[Bob Howells]

St George latest fake site target

AUGUST 21, 2003 ST GEORGE Bank said police were investigating a hoax
website that asked the bank's customers to submit confidential
information over the internet.

The website, which St George said was run by "fraudulent operators", was
the latest in a string of fake sites to imitate the actual websites of
big Australian banks.

"From this morning, both customers and non-customers of St George began
reporting they had received emails asking them to enter their internet
banking details and passwords as the bank was updating its security
systems," St George said.

"The emails did not originate from St George. The fake website was
quickly shut down and Federal Police are investigating."

St George, based in NSW and Australia's fifth biggest bank by market
value, said it posted a warning about phoney websites earlier this year
when other banks were targeted.

 ADVERTISEMENT

The bank said customers should delete any emails that appeared to be
from St George and asked for personal information.

Customers who believed their details may have been compromised should
immediately change their internet banking password, the bank said.

Re Ibook battery

[Bob Howells]

My daughter’s iBook, a white 500mhz dual USB model, the first of the
white iBooks, running OSX 10.2.6, will not operate without the AC
charger plugged in.  When the computer is restarted with the AC charger
plugged in, time setting is retained.  If the AC charger is accidentally
unplugged, the computer immediately shuts off and when restarted the
time setting is back to 1904 or something like that.

Tried zapping PRAM, resetting Power Manager, taking battery out and
making sure it has clean terminals, ran Disk Warrior 3 and Norton
Utilities 6.

Is there anything else I can try, or is it definitely in need of a new
battery?

Bud


There are 2 things here:

The fact that the time does not hold suggests that the PRAM internal
battery
needs replacing.  According to my copy of Mactracker it should be a
Lithium ion.
Two years is not an unusual life time for these.

Then there is the external battery that normally powers the iBook when
the
mains are disconnected.

The following may help

Bob

I have recently had battery problems on my ibook 500 - it seemed the
battery
was slowly dying - I looked around for a software based solution but
discovered it was hardware related (apprently a problem with all li-ion
batteries). The only solution was a new one - RRP is $275!

Then I discovered the delights of battery repacking - I sent my battery
off
to Qld, and 5 days later it was back, fully repacked and with 3.5hrs of
life
(compared with about 2.5 when it was new!).  The cost was $165!  ..and
it
has a 12 month warranty - the same as a new battery.

A tried a stack of different re-packers - but found only one who would
do an
apple battery and give 12 months warranty.  Their service is excellent
and I
highly recommend them:

Power Repackers

http://www.battrepack.com.au/

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On 10/7/03 1:43 PM, "Bob Howells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> COURTESY OF MACINTOUCH,  today
> Bob
> > > Two readers shared stories about resuscitating Mac laptop
batteries in
> Mac OS X:
> [Rob Wyatt] I'd like to share a recent experience with my iBook
(white,
> dual USB, 600mHz). I hadn't used it in a few weeks and when I turned
it
> on, the battery was completely dead. I booted up the machine and was
> very surprised to find that the battery wasn't even recognized. There
> was a little "X" over the battery icon in the menubar (OS X 10.2). I
> attempted to re-seat the battery, zap PRAM (using the key combo upon
> startup), and reset the Power Manager. Nothing worked. So I called
tech
> support and they had me do all of those things over again. Finally
they
> agreed to send me a new battery.
>  In the meantime, I decided to try one other thing (after reading
> about iBook battery issues somewhere online). I booted into Open
> Firmware and typed "reset-nvram", followed by "reset-all". Surprise,
> surprise...my battery came back to life and recharged fine. Too bad
> Apple tech support didn't tell me to try this!
>  I figured I'd share this experience in case anyone else out there is
> having a similar problem.
> > [David M. Barnett] I have a Wallstreet Powerbook G3 266 which has
been
> upgraded to 384MB RAM and 40GB hard drive. I also have a brand new
> battery from APS.
>  After upgrading to System X 10.2.3 I noticed a problem develop with
> my battery which persisted even after upgrading to System 10.2.6:
>  After a few charge/discharge cycles the battery would apparently stop

> charging at less than 100%. The percentage would decline rapidly with
> time (reaching as low as 50% before I found what appears to be a
cure).
> The battery voltage reported when charging stopped was high, but the
> battery would go into automatic sleep when it hit 0% capacity (even
> though the reported voltage was still quite high.
>  I suspected that the battery's intelligence and the OS use of the
> power manager were somehow clashing.
>  To test this I rebooted in System 9.2.2 and cycled the battery with
> no apparent improvement.
>  I then reset the power manager and cycled the battery again (still in

> System 9) with a full charge/discharge cycle. VOILA! The battery now
> charges to 100% in System X.
>  I am currently cycling it in System 10.2.6 to see if the problem will

> recur. Since I have read of problems people have had with batteries
even
> on newer systems, this may be of general interest to powerbook owners.

iBook Battery

[Bud]

My daughter’s iBook, a white 500mhz dual USB model, the first of the 
white iBooks, running OSX 10.2.6, will not operate without the AC 
charger plugged in.  When the computer is restarted with the AC charger 
plugged in, time setting is retained.  If the AC charger is 
accidentally unplugged, the computer immediately shuts off and when 
restarted the time setting is back to 1904 or something like that.


Tried zapping PRAM, resetting Power Manager, taking battery out and 
making sure it has clean terminals, ran Disk Warrior 3 and Norton 
Utilities 6.


Is there anything else I can try, or is it definitely in need of a new 
battery?


Bud