OT: Skype Phones

2009-05-25 Thread Warwick Gaff
Just wondering how many shops in Perth metro area sell Skype compatible USB
phones and if there are any problems associated with these phones?

The internet have conflicting results for some of the commonly known brands
like Logitech and Netgear but don't depict what the real fault is with the
device. Is it better to buy a no-name brand these days?



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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Bill Parker


On 26/05/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:


   WAMUG Mailing List Digest #2118
1) Address Book
   by Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au
2) Blank screen
   by thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au
3) Re: Address Book
   by Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com

Subject: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 06:56:02 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3)

I am trying to add a new email address to my address book and using
add sender. does not work.


The main address book itself is scrambled and I would prefer
alphabetical - that must be simple but its eluding me!


Bill

--

From: Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com
In-reply-to: list-481...@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:30:54 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3)

Hi Bill, I noticed my address book looked scrambled too. I went to
preferences and check 'last name before first name', and it is now in
alphabetical order. So that's a possibility to try. The default was
'first name before last'.

From Mail, I just added your address to my address book by right
clicking on your email address in your email, and clicking 'add to
address book'.

I'm using 10.5.7

What steps were you using?




Hi Susan,


Using 10.5.6

I have managed to cull a lot of unwanted email addresses by using
Previous reciepients under WINDOW in Mail. Then added the wanteds to  
Address Book.


However, sorting the address book doesn't do what you  
say.   its AddressBook.appVer 4.1.  It makes no diff.  
whether I check first or last, there's no sorting happening either way.


Bill

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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown


On 26/05/2009, at 6:17 AM, Bill Parker wrote:


Subject: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 06:56:02 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3)

I am trying to add a new email address to my address book and using
add sender. does not work.


The main address book itself is scrambled and I would prefer
alphabetical - that must be simple but its eluding me!


Bill

--

From: Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com
In-reply-to: list-481...@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:30:54 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3)

Hi Bill, I noticed my address book looked scrambled too. I went to
preferences and check 'last name before first name', and it is now in
alphabetical order. So that's a possibility to try. The default was
'first name before last'.

From Mail, I just added your address to my address book by right
clicking on your email address in your email, and clicking 'add to
address book'.

I'm using 10.5.7

What steps were you using?




Hi Susan,


Using 10.5.6

I have managed to cull a lot of unwanted email addresses by using
Previous reciepients under WINDOW in Mail. Then added the wanteds  
to Address Book.


However, sorting the address book doesn't do what you  
say.   its AddressBook.appVer 4.1.  It makes no  
diff. whether I check first or last, there's no sorting happening  
either way.


Bill


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have Show  
first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: kind of urgent - any techs in Perth still doing circuit board component repair these days?

2009-05-25 Thread James / Hans Kunz
i can have a look at it, i'm doing pcb repairs for industrial  
equipment

you may visit my webpage
cheers James
SAD Technic
Video Productions, Electronic repairs
U3 / 6 Chalkley Pl
Bayswater WA 6053
+618 9370 5307,+618 6262 5707, 0414 421 132
http://www.iinet.net.au/~saddas
skype: barleeway

The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't suck
is probably the day they start making vacuum cleaners


On 25/05/2009, at 19:53, Mark Secker wrote:



Just accidentally damaged my old G5 tower's graphics card, snapped  
a capacitor (? certainly looks like a capacitor) off the board


The component has two legs that pass through a plastic riser then  
the legs are flattened out and the long bottom edges of the legs  
are (or in this case WERE) soldered to the graphics card board the  
component has simple come off the board along the join no visible  
damage to the board or the component  - looks like a simple job for  
someone with the right kit and stable nimble fingers.



I can solder a switch, a pot, a transformer or even a valve holder  
on a point to point  wired guitar amp but this sort of delicate  
tight packed with IC's and the like is a bit beyond my skill level.


Looking at new cards... Mac ROM ones cost more than the whole   
machine's worth and the PC ones seem to have  history of not being  
reliable with the ROM flash (bricking the card seems to be more  
common result than success if forum pages are to be believed)



If I recall correctly Stewart White, at Team Digital, is the only  
one I can think of but don't know if he still does component level  
work these days


any one else?


thanks






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Memory Help

2009-05-25 Thread Nichole Shervington
Hi there.

I have a 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac purchased Dec 2007
It has 2 x 1GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM inside.

I was considering upgrading to 4GB

If I purchased 2 x 2GB 1066Mhz DDR3 SDRAM will this work in my machine?

Would appreciate some help.

Thanks

Kind regards

Nichole Shervington



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Re: Memory Help

2009-05-25 Thread Malcolm McCallum

If only improving memory was so easy. :-(


Mac
On 26/05/2009, at 9:38 AM, Nichole Shervington wrote:


Hi there.

I have a 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac purchased Dec 2007
It has 2 x 1GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM inside.

I was considering upgrading to 4GB

If I purchased 2 x 2GB 1066Mhz DDR3 SDRAM will this work in my  
machine?


Would appreciate some help.

Thanks

Kind regards

Nichole Shervington



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Re: Memory Help

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Howells


On 26/05/2009, at 9:38 AM, Nichole Shervington wrote:


Hi there.

I have a 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac purchased Dec 2007
It has 2 x 1GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM inside.

I was considering upgrading to 4GB

If I purchased 2 x 2GB 1066Mhz DDR3 SDRAM will this work in my  
machine?


Would appreciate some help.

Thanks

Kind regards

Nichole Shervington



Nicole,

You need to buy the correct memory for Mac , some PC memory may look  
the same

but can cause problems .

You can mail Daniel at Macwizardry , http://www.macwizardry.com.au  
contact an Apple store ,
like Apple Joondalup or look at this URL below to work out what you  
need :-


http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac/Intel_Core_2_Duo

( That's an American site , in case you do not know )

Bob

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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread John Daniels

Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window seems to  
be partly hidden. At the top I can just read Following last name  
immediately beneath the toolbar and then Sort by, Address format  
etc beneath. It seems that there should be something more above  
Following last name.. How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have Show  
first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not Mail  
General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to your  
email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window seems to  
be partly hidden. At the top I can just read Following last name  
immediately beneath the toolbar and then Sort by, Address format  
etc beneath. It seems that there should be something more above  
Following last name.. How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have  
Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name  
selected?


Cheers,
Ronni




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Re: Memory Help

2009-05-25 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Nichole,

I upgraded my 2.4 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac (also purchased Nov/Dec 2007)
from 1GB to 4GB - it was a really easy upgrade.

I'm down in Albany and used OWC - although they are in the US they ship
worldwide and delivered very promptly.

However, whether you want to use them or not, their website is very good for
checking on memory compatibility etc.

Their iMac page is http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac with
further details when you click on the link for your particular model, eg for
the core 2  Duo range:

http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/apple/memory/iMac/Intel_Core_2_Duo



On thing I found very useful was their installation video:

http://eshop.macsales.com/installvideos/imac_mid_2007_mem/


Which re-assured me when I found that you have to be quite firm when
seating/unseating the RAM.


You may want to buy locally - if so I am sure Daniel Kerr will not only give
you a good deal, he will be able to answer any queries regarding
models/RAM/installation.



HTH



Cheers




Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



on 26/5/09 9:38 AM, Nichole Shervington at nichole.sherving...@bigpond.com
wrote:

 Hi there.
 
 I have a 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo iMac purchased Dec 2007
 It has 2 x 1GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM inside.
 
 I was considering upgrading to 4GB
 
 If I purchased 2 x 2GB 1066Mhz DDR3 SDRAM will this work in my machine?
 
 Would appreciate some help.
 
 Thanks
 
 Kind regards
 
 Nichole Shervington
 
 
 
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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences your  
problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book Application   
Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on your  
desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand the  
window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not Mail  
General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to your  
email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window seems  
to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read Following last  
name immediately beneath the toolbar and then Sort by, Address  
format etc beneath. It seems that there should be something more  
above Following last name.. How can I reveal the rest of the  
window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have  
Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name  
selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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Re: 35mm scanner

2009-05-25 Thread Malcolm McCallum

All working well, do not ask me what I was doing wrong but  :-(

Thanks for the coffee.

We have thousands of slides to do so will return  scanner when we have  
finished or when you want it, which ever comes sooner.



Mac
On 24/05/2009, at 8:14 PM, Denise Williams wrote:



Hi Mac
Yes 12.30pm tomorrow will be fine. See you then.

Denise Williams-Photographer
PH 9447 3468
MOB 0417 184592
chri...@iinet.net.au
55 Duart Rd TRIGG WA 6029



That would bw fine, Monday after 11 AM how about @12.30 PM?
On 24/05/2009, at 12:17 PM, Denise Williams wrote:








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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread John Daniels

Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last line  
is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences your  
problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book Application  
 Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on your  
desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand the  
window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not Mail  
General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to your  
email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window seems  
to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read Following last  
name immediately beneath the toolbar and then Sort by,  
Address format etc beneath. It seems that there should be  
something more above Following last name.. How can I reveal the  
rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have  
Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name  
selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Adrian Skehan

Hi Bill,

When I had this problem I finally found that from time to time I had  
switched entering the names from First name first to last with the  
result that when I sorted them they were all over the place and re  
sorting then Last name first just reversed the probble.  To fix this I  
had to reverse the individual names so they were all the same entry  
set up.



Regards,

Adrian
adrianske...@me.com



On 26/05/2009, at 6:17 AM, Bill Parker wrote:



On 26/05/2009, at 5:01 AM, WAMUG Mailing List wrote:


  WAMUG Mailing List Digest #2118
1) Address Book
  by Bill Parker re...@westnet.com.au
2) Blank screen
  by thefrogs thefr...@iinet.net.au
3) Re: Address Book
  by Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com

Subject: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 06:56:02 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.930.3)

I am trying to add a new email address to my address book and using
add sender. does not work.


The main address book itself is scrambled and I would prefer
alphabetical - that must be simple but its eluding me!


Bill

--

From: Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com
In-reply-to: list-481...@wamug.org.au
Subject: Re: Address Book
Date: Mon, 25 May 2009 07:30:54 +0800
References: list-481...@wamug.org.au list-481...@wamug.org.au
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3)

Hi Bill, I noticed my address book looked scrambled too. I went to
preferences and check 'last name before first name', and it is now in
alphabetical order. So that's a possibility to try. The default was
'first name before last'.

From Mail, I just added your address to my address book by right
clicking on your email address in your email, and clicking 'add to
address book'.

I'm using 10.5.7

What steps were you using?




Hi Susan,


Using 10.5.6

I have managed to cull a lot of unwanted email addresses by using
Previous reciepients under WINDOW in Mail. Then added the wanteds  
to Address Book.


However, sorting the address book doesn't do what you  
say.   its AddressBook.appVer 4.1.  It makes no  
diff. whether I check first or last, there's no sorting happening  
either way.


Bill

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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in Tiger, I  
don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first name:  
Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the Show  
first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last line  
is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences your  
problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book Application  
 Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on  
your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand the  
window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not  
Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to  
your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read Following  
last name immediately beneath the toolbar and then Sort by,  
Address format etc beneath. It seems that there should be  
something more above Following last name.. How can I reveal  
the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have  
Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name  
selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread John Daniels

Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in Tiger, I  
don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first name:  
Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the Show  
first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences  
your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on  
your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand  
the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not  
Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to  
your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read  
Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar and then  
Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems that there  
should be something more above Following last name.. How can  
I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you have  
Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last Name  
selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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IP address

2009-05-25 Thread Paul Weaver
I was under the impression that every computer can be identified by a unique IP 
address which doesn't change.  If this is the case how can I check the 
individual iMacs on our house ethernet system.  They all pop up the same IP 
number when I use an online checker.

Paul.

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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

This is strange, I haven't heard of this happening.
Have you tried the Quit Address Book App  moving the  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist to the desktop.

Then restart your Mac, then Open Apple Book.app?

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted preference file.
Try above and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:21 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in Tiger, I  
don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first  
name: Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the Show  
first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences  
your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on  
your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand  
the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not  
Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to  
your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read  
Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar and then  
Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems that there  
should be something more above Following last name.. How can  
I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you  
have Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last  
Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread John Daniels

Hi Ronni
I think you are right. There is no Address Book in the Library  
although all the other Preferences/com.apple files are there.

Maybe reinstall part of Leopard again?
On 26/05/2009, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

This is strange, I haven't heard of this happening.
Have you tried the Quit Address Book App  moving the  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist to the desktop.

Then restart your Mac, then Open Apple Book.app?

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted preference file.
Try above and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:21 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in Tiger,  
I don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first  
name: Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the  
Show first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences  
your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/ 
Library/Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on  
your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top line  
which says before last line so I don't know how I can expand  
the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not  
Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to  
your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read  
Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar and  
then Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems that  
there should be something more above Following last name..  
How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you  
have Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last  
Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni








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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown


On 26/05/2009, at 12:34 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I think you are right. There is no Address Book in the Library  
although all the other Preferences/com.apple files are there.


Did you look in your Home /Library/Preferences/ 
com.apple.AddressBook.plist  NOT your HD/Library?



Maybe reinstall part of Leopard again?


Are you having any other problems, or is this the only problem you are  
experiencing in Leopard?


Cheers,
Ronni


On 26/05/2009, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

This is strange, I haven't heard of this happening.
Have you tried the Quit Address Book App  moving the  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist to the desktop.

Then restart your Mac, then Open Apple Book.app?

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted preference file.
Try above and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:21 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in Tiger,  
I don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first  
name: Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the  
Show first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences  
your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/ 
Library/Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file on  
your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top  
line which says before last line so I don't know how I can  
expand the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't do  
it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences not  
Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about to  
your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read  
Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar and  
then Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems that  
there should be something more above Following last name..  
How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you  
have Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By: Last  
Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni



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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread John Daniels

Hi again Ronni
This is the only problem.
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:42 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 26/05/2009, at 12:34 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I think you are right. There is no Address Book in the Library  
although all the other Preferences/com.apple files are there.


Did you look in your Home /Library/Preferences/ 
com.apple.AddressBook.plist  NOT your HD/Library?



Maybe reinstall part of Leopard again?


Are you having any other problems, or is this the only problem you  
are experiencing in Leopard?


Cheers,
Ronni


On 26/05/2009, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

This is strange, I haven't heard of this happening.
Have you tried the Quit Address Book App  moving the  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist to the desktop.

Then restart your Mac, then Open Apple Book.app?

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted preference file.
Try above and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:21 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in  
Tiger, I don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first  
name: Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the  
Show first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else experiences  
your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/ 
Library/Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist

to another location (desktop) and then restart Address Book.app.

If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file  
on your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top  
line which says before last line so I don't know how I can  
expand the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't  
do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences  
not Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about  
to your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs window  
seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just read  
Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar and  
then Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems that  
there should be something more above Following last  
name.. How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you  
have Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By:  
Last Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni



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Re: address book

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi John,

Ok, if you are not having any other problems in Leopard, you could  
just reinstall the Address Book Application.
You will lose all the names you have in Address Book unless you want  
to Export All your cards out as vcards  then Import them in when you  
have the new Address Book installed.


You need your Leopard Installation Disc.

1. Delete Address Book Application from the Applications folder.
2. Insert your Leopard Installation disk into the computer.
3. The disk will appear on your desktop.
4. Double click on the Optional Installs folder.
5. Double click on the Optional Installs.mpkg.
6. Click on (Continue) in Introduction.
7. Click on (Continue) in Software License Agreement.
8. Click on (Agree) to agree to the terms of the software license  
agreement.

9. Click on the disclosure arrow ▶ next to Applications.
10.. Select (✓) Address Book
11. Click (Continue).
12.. After Address Book has been reinstalled, download and run the  
10.5.7 Combo Update http://support.apple.com/downloads/Mac_OS_X_10_5_7_Combo_Update 


to bring your system back up to date.

Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 26/05/2009, at 12:44 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi again Ronni
This is the only problem.
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:42 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:



On 26/05/2009, at 12:34 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I think you are right. There is no Address Book in the Library  
although all the other Preferences/com.apple files are there.


Did you look in your Home /Library/Preferences/ 
com.apple.AddressBook.plist  NOT your HD/Library?



Maybe reinstall part of Leopard again?


Are you having any other problems, or is this the only problem you  
are experiencing in Leopard?


Cheers,
Ronni


On 26/05/2009, at 12:30 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

This is strange, I haven't heard of this happening.
Have you tried the Quit Address Book App  moving the  ~/Library/ 
Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist to the desktop.

Then restart your Mac, then Open Apple Book.app?

The only thing I can think of is a corrupted preference file.
Try above and see if that makes a difference.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:21 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
Yes I am using 4.1.2 in Leopard on Power PC table lamp.
My wife's Intel has 4.1.1 and it shows the window correctly.
Yes only the line  show first name is missing.
Cheers
John
On 26/05/2009, at 12:15 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

Are you using Address Book.app version 4.1.2 in Leopard?

If you are using a previous version of Address Book.app in  
Tiger, I don't think it had Show first name: Before last name
I can't really remember but it could have just had Show first  
name: Following last name ...


Your Window shows everything the same as mine, except for the  
Show first name: Before last name?


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 12:07 PM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I see General Template phone etc., only the item  before last  
line is missing.

Cheers
John



On 26/05/2009, at 11:47 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

I'll put my reply back on list in case anyone else  
experiences your problem.


Am I correct in understanding that in your Address Book  
Application  Preferences that the Toolbar (Menu)

at the top of the Preferences Window does not show?
You do not see the toolbar at the top with General,  
Template,Phone etc icons?


If this is the case try: Quit Address Book.app  Move   ~/ 
Library/Preferences/com.apple.AddressBook.plist
to another location (desktop) and then restart Address  
Book.app.


If that fixes your problem you can then trash the plist file  
on your desktop.


Let's know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 11:31 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Sorry Ronni
I meant Address Book Prefs. I see now I am missing the top  
line which says before last line so I don't know how I can  
expand the window to include it. The corner or zoom doesn't  
do it.

Cheers
John

On 26/05/2009, at 10:13 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi John,

We are talking about Address Book.app General Preferences  
not Mail General Preferences.
I've attached screen shot of the window I am talking about  
to your email addressas It won't come to WAMUG list.


Cheers,
Ronni
Picture 3.png
On 26/05/2009, at 9:55 AM, John Daniels wrote:


Hi Ronni
I'm having similar trouble but my Mail General Prefs  
window seems to be partly hidden. At the top I can just  
read Following last name immediately beneath the toolbar  
and then Sort by, Address format etc beneath. It seems  
that there should be something more above Following last  
name.. How can I reveal the rest of the window?

Cheers
John




On 26/05/2009, at 7:14 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Bill,

In Address Book.app  Preferences - under General, do you  
have Show first Name: Before Last name and Sort By:  
Last Name selected?


Cheers,
Ronni



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2009-05-25 Thread Chris Burton

Hi wamuggers

I dont seem to be receiving many emails from the group and are not  
sure why. I have had dramas with my isp, oceanbroadband down here in  
busso over the last month or so.


I have a quick question regarding the small usb harddrives. I looked  
at a couple of 500gb drives at hardly's this morning and neither of  
them mentioned being compatable with Mac OS. The seagate in particular  
had no info at all. Will that be a problem at all, or should I just  
plug it in and use it? I thought I might have to format in OS X?


kind regards to all

chris



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Re: IP address

2009-05-25 Thread Neil Houghton
Hi Paul,

I'm no network guru, so this is just my thoughts rather than real knowledge!

I think an online check would probably come up with the IP address of your
internet router.

The IP addresses for each computer may or may not change depending on how
your network is set-up. If you go to the network pane in system preferences
and then go to Ethernet you will see that there are options for Configure -

Mine is set to using DHCP which means that it's IP address is allocated by
the router. In this case the IP address of the computer may indeed change
over time, depending what available address is allocated by the router.

Another option is manually where you set the IP address - making sure, of
course, you give a different valid address to each computer - in this case
the computer IP address will remain the same until you change it.

As I understand it though, these addresses would only be visible on your LAN
(local area network, ie all the computers talking to the router) the
internet is part of the WAN (wide area network). With a typical setup your
router is the bridge between your LAN and the WAN.

The network pane in system preferences will also tell you the current IP
address of the computer.


HTH



Cheers



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on 26/5/09 12:28 PM, Paul Weaver at pwea...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I was under the impression that every computer can be identified by a unique
 IP address which doesn't change.  If this is the case how can I check the
 individual iMacs on our house ethernet system.  They all pop up the same IP
 number when I use an online checker.
 
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Re: IP address

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Howells


On 26/05/2009, at 12:28 PM, Paul Weaver wrote:

I was under the impression that every computer can be identified by  
a unique IP address which doesn't change.


You have one line to your isp and it has just the one IP address .
So the online checker shows that address .

Your ethernet home network will have a router which will allocate  
individual Ip addresses to the individual Mac's .


You should be able to see the address of that mac by going to System  
Preferences - Network


and look at the  built in Ethernet  details

Typically depending on your brand of router  you would expect to see  
something like 192.168.1.x


Some browsers use   192.168.0.x

The  x  part of the address will be different for each Mac .
With an ethernet connection the  x  part of the address mostly stays  
the same


Bob

 If this is the case how can I check the individual iMacs on our  
house ethernet system.  They all pop up the same IP number when I  
use an online checker.


Paul.

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Re: IP address

2009-05-25 Thread David Moyle
Afternoon,

Ditto to below! Dead correct.

The IP address with be either 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x on all of the computers 
internally on your network.

Thanks,
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Subject: Re: IP address

Hi Paul,

I'm no network guru, so this is just my thoughts rather than real knowledge!

I think an online check would probably come up with the IP address of your
internet router.

The IP addresses for each computer may or may not change depending on how
your network is set-up. If you go to the network pane in system preferences
and then go to Ethernet you will see that there are options for Configure -

Mine is set to using DHCP which means that it's IP address is allocated by
the router. In this case the IP address of the computer may indeed change
over time, depending what available address is allocated by the router.

Another option is manually where you set the IP address - making sure, of
course, you give a different valid address to each computer - in this case
the computer IP address will remain the same until you change it.

As I understand it though, these addresses would only be visible on your LAN
(local area network, ie all the computers talking to the router) the
internet is part of the WAN (wide area network). With a typical setup your
router is the bridge between your LAN and the WAN.

The network pane in system preferences will also tell you the current IP
address of the computer.


HTH



Cheers



Neil
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Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com




on 26/5/09 12:28 PM, Paul Weaver at pwea...@westnet.com.au wrote:

 I was under the impression that every computer can be identified by a unique
 IP address which doesn't change.  If this is the case how can I check the
 individual iMacs on our house ethernet system.  They all pop up the same IP
 number when I use an online checker.
 
 Paul.
 
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Mail message won't go away

2009-05-25 Thread Graham Byatt

Hi All,
OS X 10.5.7 Mail App - I have an email from regular correspondent that  
i can't delete, tried to change its status, flag it, unflag it,  
transfer to another mailbox (it doesn't go into them) etc.   It just  
won't go away.   Opening the message displays a blank window.


It's been here for over 6 months and causes no other problems, just  
bugs me.


Graham



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Re: emails

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Chris,

Re: you not receiving WAMUG emails, have you checked that your ISP is  
not blocking any emails?


Re: The External USB Harddrives. In Disk Utility, what format it is  
already formatted to?

Applications  Utilities  Disk Utility ...

Are you wanting to use the external drive on Windows, or with Time  
Machine, or just on your Mac?

For Windows, you would need to format it MS-DOS (FAT)
For Time Machine  Mac Computers you need to Format Mac OS X Extended  
(Journaled)  Partition

GUID Partition Table or Apple Partition Map.
(GUID for Intel Macs or any Mac running 10.4 or later or Apple  
Partition Map for PowerPC Macs running any version of Mac OS X)


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 1:06 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi wamuggers

I dont seem to be receiving many emails from the group and are not  
sure why. I have had dramas with my isp, oceanbroadband down here in  
busso over the last month or so.


I have a quick question regarding the small usb harddrives. I looked  
at a couple of 500gb drives at hardly's this morning and neither of  
them mentioned being compatable with Mac OS. The seagate in  
particular had no info at all. Will that be a problem at all, or  
should I just plug it in and use it? I thought I might have to  
format in OS X?


kind regards to all

chris




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Re: Mail message won't go away

2009-05-25 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Graham,

Can you highlight the email, then click on Edit and choose Cut.

Does it go away then?

Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 1:24 PM, Graham Byatt wrote:


Hi All,
OS X 10.5.7 Mail App - I have an email from regular correspondent  
that i can't delete, tried to change its status, flag it, unflag it,  
transfer to another mailbox (it doesn't go into them) etc.   It just  
won't go away.   Opening the message displays a blank window.


It's been here for over 6 months and causes no other problems, just  
bugs me.


Graham



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Re: emails

2009-05-25 Thread Susan Hastings
Hi Chris, I have several small USB drives, and a larger one. I never  
bother with formatting them, just plug them in and start using them.  
You can, as Ronni said, reformat them, but as far as I know, they are  
all Mac compatible, whether they say so or not. Susan.

On 26/05/2009, at 1:39 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Chris,

Re: you not receiving WAMUG emails, have you checked that your ISP  
is not blocking any emails?


Re: The External USB Harddrives. In Disk Utility, what format it is  
already formatted to?

Applications  Utilities  Disk Utility ...

Are you wanting to use the external drive on Windows, or with Time  
Machine, or just on your Mac?

For Windows, you would need to format it MS-DOS (FAT)
For Time Machine  Mac Computers you need to Format Mac OS X  
Extended (Journaled)  Partition

GUID Partition Table or Apple Partition Map.
(GUID for Intel Macs or any Mac running 10.4 or later or Apple  
Partition Map for PowerPC Macs running any version of Mac OS X)


Cheers,
Ronni

On 26/05/2009, at 1:06 PM, Chris Burton wrote:


Hi wamuggers

I dont seem to be receiving many emails from the group and are not  
sure why. I have had dramas with my isp, oceanbroadband down here  
in busso over the last month or so.


I have a quick question regarding the small usb harddrives. I  
looked at a couple of 500gb drives at hardly's this morning and  
neither of them mentioned being compatable with Mac OS. The seagate  
in particular had no info at all. Will that be a problem at all, or  
should I just plug it in and use it? I thought I might have to  
format in OS X?


kind regards to all

chris




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Re: Mail message won't go away

2009-05-25 Thread Geoffrey Barbara Maidment
Hi Graham

I had something similar using Entourage.  I tried everything but nothing
worked to delete the message, which kept showing up as an 'unread message'.
I finally had to take the computer to my local tech shop where they reloaded
Entourage and updated it.  Has worked fine ever since.  It seems there is a
glitch in the system which occasionally rears its head.  Re-loading is the
only answer.

Barb 


On 26/5/09 1:49 PM, Ronda Brown ro...@wn.com.au wrote:

 Hi Graham,
 
 Can you highlight the email, then click on Edit and choose Cut.
 
 Does it go away then?
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 On 26/05/2009, at 1:24 PM, Graham Byatt wrote:
 
 Hi All,
 OS X 10.5.7 Mail App - I have an email from regular correspondent
 that i can't delete, tried to change its status, flag it, unflag it,
 transfer to another mailbox (it doesn't go into them) etc.   It just
 won't go away.   Opening the message displays a blank window.
 
 It's been here for over 6 months and causes no other problems, just
 bugs me.
 
 Graham
 
 
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