Re: ADSL2+ for Joe Baker

2011-05-19 Thread Pat

I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about getting 
started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my situation.  I 
have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area that has no mobile 
coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very badly in the past and I 
am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I now have a new iPad with 3G 
capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  my thought is to buy a prepaid 
sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans and 'deals' is mind boggling.  
Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are there any good sources of 
information about these matters, tutorials, etc.

Pat


 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things do I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe




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Re: ADSL2+ for Joe Baker

2011-05-19 Thread Ashley Mulder
Check out the Whirpool forums
Sometimes they have good information, other times its requires a bit of digging 
before you find the 'good stuff'

A lot of the time it comes down to double checking the fine print associated 
with the plans
I think one of the first things that I would recommend doing is trying to work 
out how much data you would use
Would 1gb be sufficient, or maybe 500mb etc etc...i know its hard to do, but it 
can help narrow down the selection by removing the 'too little' and the 'far 
too much'

Ash

On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat wrote:

 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans 
 and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are 
 there any good sources of information about these matters, tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things do 
 I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe
 
 
 
 
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iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Susan Hastings

Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone for 
365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month problems ( 
renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much credit that you 
can never actually use it.)

Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.

Cheers, Susan



Sent from my iPad

On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans 
 and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are 
 there any good sources of information about these matters, tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things do 
 I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Thanks Susan for changing the subject, the previous subject has nothing really 
to do with Pat’s requests.

Hi Pat,

The iPhone 3G S uses a SIM-Card
The iPhone 4 uses a Micro-SIM Card
The iPad uses a Micro-SIM Card (The iPad Micro-SIM card will NOT work with your 
iPhone )

Australian iPad SIM Plans 2011 
There is full table in spreadsheet format current prices at April 2011
http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/04/planhacker-australian-ipad-sim-plans-2011/

I use a Telstra Pre-Paid micro-SIM for Apple iPad  $30mth, but I only use  pay 
when I am going to be away from Fi-Wi on ‘breaks’ to the country.
http://www.telstra.com.au/bigpond-internet/mobile-broadband/micro-sim-for-apple-ipad/?red=/latest_offers/ipad/

Cheers,
Ronni

17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans 
 and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are 
 there any good sources of information about these matters, tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even 
 know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things 
 do I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe
 


















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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Ronda Brown
My god, how did I type Fi-Wi instead of Wi-Fi  … my excuse is “It’s been a hard 
day” ;-)
Ronni

On 19/05/2011, at 3:46 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Thanks Susan for changing the subject, the previous subject has nothing 
 really to do with Pat’s requests.
 
 Hi Pat,
 
 The iPhone 3G S uses a SIM-Card
 The iPhone 4 uses a Micro-SIM Card
 The iPad uses a Micro-SIM Card (The iPad Micro-SIM card will NOT work with 
 your iPhone )
 
 Australian iPad SIM Plans 2011 
 There is full table in spreadsheet format current prices at April 2011
 http://www.lifehacker.com.au/2011/04/planhacker-australian-ipad-sim-plans-2011/
 
 I use a Telstra Pre-Paid micro-SIM for Apple iPad  $30mth, but I only use  
 pay when I am going to be away from Fi-Wi on ‘breaks’ to the country.
 http://www.telstra.com.au/bigpond-internet/mobile-broadband/micro-sim-for-apple-ipad/?red=/latest_offers/ipad/
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone): 
  my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of 
 plans and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should 
 be, are there any good sources of information about these matters, 
 tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even 
 know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things 
 do I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe




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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Pat

Thanks, Susan, Ashley and Ronni,

The Lifehacker table is useful - I will have to explore further.

Perhaps I can ask another question about the unfamiliar jargon of this 
technology that is new to me:

In the table, the various plans have a column for 'Data'.  I understand that 
this is the amount you can consume before incurring excess charges.  Then there 
is a column that lists 'Setup' charges and another column says that 'Setup 
includes X amount of Data' - what does this mean?

If, for example, the 365 day Telstra plan has a 12 GB limit and a $30 setup 
cost that includes 3 GB of data.  Do you end up with a total of 15 GB of data? 
Or am I on the wrong track here?

Pat

 
On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans 
 and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are 
 there any good sources of information about these matters, tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat




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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread lem1

Hi Susan


What is the performance like on your iPad with telstra.
If you run the test at the following website what speed do you get on the 3G 
network?

http://www.ozspeedtest.com/

Thinking of an iPad but I find my current service Optus very slow even on 3G.

Thanks in advance

Cheers


Kane
 


On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:

 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):  
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of plans 
 and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should be, are 
 there any good sources of information about these matters, tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even 
 know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things 
 do I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Ronda Brown

Hi Pat,

On 19/05/2011, at 5:54 PM, Pat wrote:

 
 Thanks, Susan, Ashley and Ronni,
 
 The Lifehacker table is useful - I will have to explore further.
 
 Perhaps I can ask another question about the unfamiliar jargon of this 
 technology that is new to me:
 
 In the table, the various plans have a column for 'Data'.  I understand that 
 this is the amount you can consume before incurring excess charges.  Then 
 there is a column that lists 'Setup' charges and another column says that 
 'Setup includes X amount of Data' - what does this mean?

The “Setup includes x amount of Data” means the 30 day cost say of 
(NO.37)Telstra Prepaid $30  (30 day Cost) includes 3GB (Data per 30 days 
period) for that Total cost $30
If you re-charge the day before the end of the 30 days any data you haven’t 
used (that is left over) is credited to your next 30 days.
So if you have 1GB left over, your next 30 days you will have 4GB of Data.

As Susan has mentioned previously below.
 
 If, for example, the 365 day Telstra plan has a 12 GB limit and a $30 setup 
 cost that includes 3 GB of data.  Do you end up with a total of 15 GB of 
 data? Or am I on the wrong track here?

Cheers,
Ronni

 
 On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone): 
  my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of 
 plans and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should 
 be, are there any good sources of information about these matters, 
 tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 




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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Susan Hastings

it was 1.7mbps, whatever that means.

But I find 3G quite fast, we used a 3G hotspot whilst waiting for our Iinet 
account to be set up at our new house, and web browsing and downloading of 
stuff on iTunes was quite useful. You can use Skype video on 3G.

I would say that on normal web browsing you won't see much difference between 
being on home wireless or on 3G on the iPad, if it's much slower it suggest a 
problem.

Sent from my iPad

On 19/05/2011, at 6:32 PM, lem1 l...@iinet.net.au wrote:

 
 Hi Susan
 
 
 What is the performance like on your iPad with telstra.
 If you run the test at the following website what speed do you get on the 3G 
 network?
 
 http://www.ozspeedtest.com/
 
 Thinking of an iPad but I find my current service Optus very slow even on 3G.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Kane
 
 
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better 
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone 
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month 
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much 
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about 
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my 
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area 
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very 
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I 
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone): 
  my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of 
 plans and 'deals' is mind boggling.  Perhaps the question to WAMUG should 
 be, are there any good sources of information about these matters, 
 tutorials, etc.
 
 Pat
 
 
 Now I am a person who has sort of been left behind in certain
 areas. For example I do not have a mobile phone and would not even 
 know
 how to use it. Or know about the difference between WiFi and 3G, or 
 about
 so called plan offer by carriers, or what sim cards are, how 
 applications
 are brought etc?
 
 Point is -  what ise best, WiFi or 3G or both and what other things 
 do I
 need to do the above.
 Regards Joe
 
 
 
 
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Re: iPad provider plans

2011-05-19 Thread Daniel Kerr

I find the Telstra plans quite good.
I'm not a massive fan of Telstra myself to be honest, but to be they do have
one of the best coverage for in and around Australia.
For the times I've been to Albany with it and to my sister's farm in the
middle of nowhere about 45mins out of Katanning the coverage has been great.
I can't fault it, or the speed of it.

I, like Susan, ended up going with the $150 for 12GB for 12 months. I
started with the $20 for 1GB plan which I never went over, but found I was
topping it up each month anyway. I then sat and looked at it and thought,
even if I just top it up for 6 months like that, in half a year I have
spent $120. So why not spend $150 and get a full years coverage. And I'll
barely touch 12GB, so that's not going to be a problem.
Personally, I think if you're going to keep topping it up before you go
places then that can work out a better overall option.
If you're at home and using it on a wireless network (Wi-Fi) then you're not
using your data anyway, you're using your local wireless networks (ISP)
data. So this can help it as well.
Eg for me here at home I'm with iinet with 400GB of data per month, so using
it here is not a problem. Once I take the iPad out of range (if I can ever
get it off my 2.5 year old, or Wife,..or friend staying with us for that
matter,...lol) then it uses the Telstra data.
They give you a local log in page as well, so you can always check what
you're using roughly also.

But yes lots of plans, lots of info - always hard to try and decide.
I've said to most clients that get iPads. If you're not sure at least you
can just start with one company and see how it goes for a month or two. If
it's slow or you don't like their network coverage, you're not tied into a
contract (unlike mobile phone plans), so you can just try another company.
Most people I know end up going with Telstra if they are at all travelling
in and around Australia (or even just WA). They all find the coverage the
better option and the plans aren't too bad. (Coverage comes at a little
bit more of a cost then some other plans, but then if you're out
somewhere,..you just want it work.).

Just my 2cents worth. Others may have different info or advice :o))

Kind regards
Daniel



On 19/5/11 10:38 PM, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:

 
 it was 1.7mbps, whatever that means.
 
 But I find 3G quite fast, we used a 3G hotspot whilst waiting for our Iinet
 account to be set up at our new house, and web browsing and downloading of
 stuff on iTunes was quite useful. You can use Skype video on 3G.
 
 I would say that on normal web browsing you won't see much difference between
 being on home wireless or on 3G on the iPad, if it's much slower it suggest a
 problem.
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 6:32 PM, lem1 l...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 Hi Susan
 
 
 What is the performance like on your iPad with telstra.
 If you run the test at the following website what speed do you get on the 3G
 network?
 
 http://www.ozspeedtest.com/
 
 Thinking of an iPad but I find my current service Optus very slow even on 3G.
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 Cheers
 
 
 Kane
 
 
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 3:12 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:
 
 
 Hi Pat, I've changed the subject for your email so that people can better
 respond to your question. I have a Telstra Pre paid sim, on which I've gone
 for 365 day option so that i am not having to cope with month to month
 problems ( renew before it expires or lose whats left, then have so much
 credit that you can never actually use it.)
 
 Whirlpool is a great source of information on prepaid plans by actual users.
 
 Cheers, Susan
 
 
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 On 19/05/2011, at 2:49 PM, Pat clamsh...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 
 I don't mean to be annoying, but part of Joe Baker's question was about
 getting started with mobile phones, sim cards, etc.  This describes my
 situation.  I have never had a mobile phone because my house is in an area
 that has no mobile coverage except from Telstra.  Telstra treated us very
 badly in the past and I am determined to avoid them as much as possible.  I
 now have a new iPad with 3G capability (and I would like to buy an iPhone):
 my thought is to buy a prepaid sim card for the iPad.  The plethora of
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WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread Warren Jones

Hi all

Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online  
which never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays and  
not wanting to see other state-specific holidays, I've created my own  
just for WA holidays (using Google calendars) and published it.


You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics

or XML link for some apps...
http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic

(https:// will also work on the above URLs)

Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the official  
DoC site at

http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html

I will endeavour to maintain it in future.

woz


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Re: WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread Manzie Greg
Thank you for sharing Warren. It worked perfectly and simply.

Regards Greg M.

On 20/05/2011, at 11:03 AM, Warren Jones wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online which 
 never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays and not wanting 
 to see other state-specific holidays, I've created my own just for WA 
 holidays (using Google calendars) and published it.
 
 You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
 
 or XML link for some apps...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
 
 (https:// will also work on the above URLs)
 
 Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the official DoC site 
 at 
 http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html
 
 I will endeavour to maintain it in future.
 
 woz
 
 
 
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Re: WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Much appreciated Woz.

Thanks,
Ronni

On 20/05/2011, at 11:03 AM, Warren Jones wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online which 
 never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays and not wanting 
 to see other state-specific holidays, I've created my own just for WA 
 holidays (using Google calendars) and published it.
 
 You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
 
 or XML link for some apps...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
 
 (https:// will also work on the above URLs)
 
 Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the official DoC site 
 at 
 http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html
 
 I will endeavour to maintain it in future.
 
 woz
 




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Re: WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread David de la Hunty
Great move Warren, thanks for sharing. DD

On 20/05/2011, at 11:03, Warren Jones wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online which 
 never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays and not wanting 
 to see other state-specific holidays, I've created my own just for WA 
 holidays (using Google calendars) and published it.
 
 You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
 
 or XML link for some apps...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
 
 (https:// will also work on the above URLs)
 
 Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the official DoC site 
 at 
 http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html
 
 I will endeavour to maintain it in future.
 
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Re: WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread Paul van der Mey
H Warren

Much appreciated, have subscribed...
I just noticed that there are no public holidays in July, August or September! 
What gives? :) /joke

Thank you

Paul

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On 20/05/2011, at 11:03 AM, Warren Jones warr...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi all
 
 Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online which 
 never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays and not wanting 
 to see other state-specific holidays, I've created my own just for WA 
 holidays (using Google calendars) and published it.
 
 You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics
 
 or XML link for some apps...
 http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic
 
 (https:// will also work on the above URLs)
 
 Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the official DoC site 
 at 
 http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html
 
 I will endeavour to maintain it in future.
 
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Re: WA Holidays and iCal

2011-05-19 Thread Warren Jones

Hi Paul
Well I could create another calendar for you - Western Australian  
Wishful Thinking Holidays - but it may not carry much weight with  
your employer (unless you're self-employed!)


woz


On 20/05/2011, at 12:16 PM, Paul van der Mey wrote:


H Warren

Much appreciated, have subscribed...
I just noticed that there are no public holidays in July, August or  
September! What gives? :) /joke


Thank you

Paul

Paul van der Mey
p...@interactive-knowledge.biz
p_...@tpg.com.au (when mobile)
0419 201 477

On 20/05/2011, at 11:03 AM, Warren Jones warr...@mac.com wrote:


Hi all

Fed up with the various subscribe-able Australian Holidays online  
which never seem to get it right esp when it comes to WA holidays  
and not wanting to see other state-specific holidays, I've created  
my own just for WA holidays (using Google calendars) and published  
it.


You can subscribe if you wish in iCal or Google calendars using...
http://www.google.com/calendar/ical/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic.ics

or XML link for some apps...
http://www.google.com/calendar/feeds/tsd4v38mk77i7l0l0f99np4n2k%40group.calendar.google.com/public/basic

(https:// will also work on the above URLs)

Dates are valid from 2011 until 2013 and are taken from the  
official DoC site at

http://www.commerce.wa.gov.au/LabourRelations/Content/Employers/Pay_rates_leave_and_conditions/Public_holidays_in_Western_Aus.html

I will endeavour to maintain it in future.

woz



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e-mac problem

2011-05-19 Thread Derek Perry
Hi everyone,
Can anyone solve this problem for me?.

When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of days, I 
get this message,
Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this may 
cause some applications to behave erratically,
Please use the date  time preference panel to set the clock manually.
When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock,  date, 
time zone hasn't changed,

I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't,  I have to 
re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
supposedly saved in keychain,
If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
everything is fine.
This problem has been bugging me for sometime now

I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but will 
soon be passing the e-mac to my son.

e-mac power pc G4
1.25GHZ
512mb Ram
Thanks
Derek



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Re: e-mac problem

2011-05-19 Thread Daniel Forsdyke
Hi Derek

It sounds like the internal PRAM battery us flat.

Regards
Daniel Forsdyke
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On 20/05/2011, at 13:10, Derek Perry dperry...@yahoo.com.au wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 Can anyone solve this problem for me?.
 When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of days, 
 I get this message,
 Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this may 
 cause some applications to behave erratically,
 Please use the date  time preference panel to set the clock manually.
 When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock,  date, 
 time zone hasn't changed,
 I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't,  I have to 
 re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
 supposedly saved in keychain,
 If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
 everything is fine.
 This problem has been bugging me for sometime now
 I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but will 
 soon be passing the e-mac to my son.
 e-mac power pc G4
 1.25GHZ
 512mb Ram
 Thanks
 Derek
 
 
 
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Re: e-mac problem

2011-05-19 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Derek,

Yes, the PRAM (or backup) battery is dead, probably from the computer being 
unplugged from wall power for an extended period.

Instructions for installing the new battery are here:

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3005

The battery is a 1/2AA 3.6V lithium. 

Cheers,
Ronni

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2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

On 20/05/2011, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Forsdyke wrote:

 Hi Derek
 
 It sounds like the internal PRAM battery us flat.
 
 Regards
 Daniel Forsdyke
 --
 An Apple iPhone4 creation
 
 On 20/05/2011, at 13:10, Derek Perry dperry...@yahoo.com.au wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 Can anyone solve this problem for me?.
 When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of days, 
 I get this message,
 Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this may 
 cause some applications to behave erratically,
 Please use the date  time preference panel to set the clock manually.
 When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock,  date, 
 time zone hasn't changed,
 I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't,  I have to 
 re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
 supposedly saved in keychain,
 If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
 everything is fine.
 This problem has been bugging me for sometime now
 I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but will 
 soon be passing the e-mac to my son.
 e-mac power pc G4
 1.25GHZ
 512mb Ram
 Thanks
 Derek
 















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Re: e-mac problem

2011-05-19 Thread Ashley Mulder
And here is where you can get them from
http://www.macfixit.com.au/shop/index.php?_a=viewProdproductId=619

Ash

On 20/05/2011, at 1:20 PM, Ronda Brown wrote:

 Hi Derek,
 
 Yes, the PRAM (or backup) battery is dead, probably from the computer being 
 unplugged from wall power for an extended period.
 
 Instructions for installing the new battery are here:
 
 http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3005
 
 The battery is a 1/2AA 3.6V lithium. 
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD
 
 OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
 Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)

Ashley Mulder
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Department of Chemistry
Curtin University
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Re: e-mac problem

2011-05-19 Thread Derek Perry
Thanks Ronda, will check your link out, then perhaps I won't have to bother 
Kevin to explain it to me.
Derek
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ronda Brown 
  To: WAMUG Mailing List 
  Sent: Friday, May 20, 2011 1:20 PM
  Subject: Re: e-mac problem


  Hi Derek,


  Yes, the PRAM (or backup) battery is dead, probably from the computer being 
unplugged from wall power for an extended period.

  Instructions for installing the new battery are here:

  http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3005

  The battery is a 1/2AA 3.6V lithium. 


  Cheers,
  Ronni


  17 MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt
  2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD

  OS X 10.6.7 Snow Leopard
  Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)


  On 20/05/2011, at 1:12 PM, Daniel Forsdyke wrote:


Hi Derek


It sounds like the internal PRAM battery us flat.

Regards
Daniel Forsdyke
--
An Apple iPhone4 creation

On 20/05/2011, at 13:10, Derek Perry dperry...@yahoo.com.au wrote:


  Hi everyone,
  Can anyone solve this problem for me?.

  When my e-mac has been switched off at the wall socket for a couple of 
days, I get this message,
  Your computerclock clock is set to a date before March 24th 2001, this 
may cause some applications to behave erratically,
  Please use the date  time preference panel to set the clock manually.
  When I go into time preference the date is 1971, I then reset clock,  
date, time zone hasn't changed,

  I then try to get on the internet only to find that I can't,  I have to 
re-configure my internet connection including password, even though it was 
supposedly saved in keychain,
  If the computer is just shutdown, with the power still going to it then 
everything is fine.
  This problem has been bugging me for sometime now

  I am not too bothered for myself as I have just ordered a new imac, but 
will soon be passing the e-mac to my son.

  e-mac power pc G4
  1.25GHZ
  512mb Ram
  Thanks
  Derek





























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Ipad

2011-05-19 Thread Hugh Griffiths

Hi my iPad keeps resetting it's time to two hours earlier. Seems to be every 
time I sync. Computer time is correct and other iPad and iPhones dont time 
change. Any ideas?

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