Re: 10.5.4 is available
Hi... I'm thinking you mean 'delta' update. Delta being shorthand for 'change' (as in delta-v for change in velocity). The Delta update only includes the changes from the previous version. Having a smaller update means it takes less time and bandwidth for everyone to download it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_%28letter%29 'alpha' would probably mean untested, pre-release! :) Have fun, Shay Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest version as already there. Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has caused the most problems. (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://public.xdi.org/=Shayfnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Thanks Shay, Yes, had the wrong wording in that as was typing out another email at the same time. That will learn me :o) Thanks for correcting it. I did in fact mean delta. :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 9:15 PM, Shay Telfer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi... I'm thinking you mean 'delta' update. Delta being shorthand for 'change' (as in delta-v for change in velocity). The Delta update only includes the changes from the previous version. Having a smaller update means it takes less time and bandwidth for everyone to download it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_%28letter%29 'alpha' would probably mean untested, pre-release! :) Have fun, Shay Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest version as already there. Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has caused the most problems. (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
On 01/07/2008, at 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths wrote: Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths It is generally-accepted troubleshooting principle these days that if your computer begins exhibiting problems after an incremental update from Software Update, that downloading and applying the larger Combo update form Apple's website can be an instant fix. For my own part, I have never had to do this. Every incremental update has always worked successfully first time. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
10.5.4 is available
Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so. Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so. Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so. Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Hi Chris They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest version as already there. Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has caused the most problems. (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so. Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 10.5.4 is available
Thanks Daniel! On 01/07/2008, at 1:02 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris They just use the smaller one on Software Update as it picks up the latest version as already there. Not everyone will have problems, so it's probably 90% of the time OK. But from most things I read and see, it's generally the alpha update that has caused the most problems. (Not worded very well, but hopefully that makes sense.) :o) Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:45 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Interesting. That was from Software Update area on my computer. Why would they have a cut down version when most people will update this way? Which means most people will have problems?? Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:36 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: Hi Chris That would be the alpha update, which is the smaller update from 10.5.3 to 10.5.4. Generally (as a rule) you're better off with the larger update, as it's got everything mixed together. (And you find most people who have problems have done just the alpha update and not the combo update,...) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Daniel On 1/7/08 12:24 PM, Chris Griffiths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My download of 10.5.4 was only 50Mb or so. Regards Chris Griffiths On 01/07/2008, at 12:21 PM, Neil Houghton wrote: Gawd - that would be right - 2 days after I FINALLY got round to downloading the 10.5.3 update!! on 1/7/08 9:27 AM, Daniel Kerr at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All 10.5.4 is available via Software Update or for download:- http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/ Weighs in at 561MB :o) Enjoy! Kind Regards Daniel --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Daniel Kerr MacWizardry Phone: 0414 795 960 Email: daniel @ macwizardry . com . au Web: http://www.macwizardry.com.au **For everything Macintosh** -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
