Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Paul Kitchener]

Greg Sharp wrote:


I went direct to the source, I asked my 17 year old son.

He said 1st copy the program from CD to your computer + any other networked
machines you want to allow LAN gaming on.

Next start the game & when requested insert the CD. Whether playing single
player or via LAN one machine must have the original disk inserted. Players
on other machines log in to this machine for LAN play but aren't required to
have a disk inserted.

He has played it on an old 9500 running OS 9.1, a slot load iMac running OS
9.2.2 and more importantly for your info on a G3 800MHz iBook running OS
9.2.2 under Classic. So it does work under Classic.

I mentioned to him you couldn't get it to run because it kept requesting you
to insert CD even though you already had. He said that happened to him
sometimes but all he did was give the CD a real good clean/wipe and then it
was recognized again. This may be your problem.

Before you say "well it worked on my old machine", I have a theory on that.
Your old machines have plain CD drives in them where as you mentioned your
eMac has a DVD drive. The CD drive may not be as sensitive to
marks/scratches etc than the DVD drive is because of the different
mechanisms/lasers etc. Cleaning it properly should help.

What you could do as an experiment for your own satisfaction is load the
program onto both machines but put the CD in the old one. Then connect for a
LAN game from the eMac to the old one. If the application runs fine under
Classic from the eMac then it will pretty much prove the problem is in the
way the DVD drive on the eMac reads the disk which would help substantiate
my suspicion.

 



In the past I have resurected iffy CDs by making a Disk Image of them 
with Toast and then creating a new disk. Seems to get around some 
scratches etc.


Good Luck
Paul

Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Greg Sharp]

I went direct to the source, I asked my 17 year old son.

He said 1st copy the program from CD to your computer + any other networked
machines you want to allow LAN gaming on.

Next start the game & when requested insert the CD. Whether playing single
player or via LAN one machine must have the original disk inserted. Players
on other machines log in to this machine for LAN play but aren't required to
have a disk inserted.

He has played it on an old 9500 running OS 9.1, a slot load iMac running OS
9.2.2 and more importantly for your info on a G3 800MHz iBook running OS
9.2.2 under Classic. So it does work under Classic.

I mentioned to him you couldn't get it to run because it kept requesting you
to insert CD even though you already had. He said that happened to him
sometimes but all he did was give the CD a real good clean/wipe and then it
was recognized again. This may be your problem.

Before you say "well it worked on my old machine", I have a theory on that.
Your old machines have plain CD drives in them where as you mentioned your
eMac has a DVD drive. The CD drive may not be as sensitive to
marks/scratches etc than the DVD drive is because of the different
mechanisms/lasers etc. Cleaning it properly should help.

What you could do as an experiment for your own satisfaction is load the
program onto both machines but put the CD in the old one. Then connect for a
LAN game from the eMac to the old one. If the application runs fine under
Classic from the eMac then it will pretty much prove the problem is in the
way the DVD drive on the eMac reads the disk which would help substantiate
my suspicion.


-- 

All the best

Greg Sharp
President/Webmaster
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Australian Mac Users Group (AUSMUG)
http://australian.macusersgroup.org


On 1/5/05 7:36 PM, "Rosie Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Earlier this week I posted a question about Warcraft 2.
> 
> Thanx to all of the people who offered suggestions about what I could
> try, to get the game working on my EMac.
> 
> I tried all of the suggestions offered, unfortunately to no avail.
> 
> It appears that it is not possible to play this game on current Mac
> computers.
> 
> Sadly, I have found a reason not to get rid of my old (boat anchor)
> Performa.
> 
> Thanx again for all of your suggestions.
> 
> Regards
> Rosie :-)

Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Tim Law]

Hi Rosie,

I missed your previous posts about playing Warcraft 11 on an eMac running
10.3.9. 

We play it - what's the problem you are having?

In fact, we play it over the ethernet between a 7600 running 9.1 with a
G4/400 card and a plain jane 7200 running 9.1, and the eMac.

Regards
Tim


on 1/5/05 5:36 PM, Rosie Cable at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Earlier this week I posted a question about Warcraft 2.
> 
> Thanx to all of the people who offered suggestions about what I could
> try, to get the game working on my EMac.
> 
> I tried all of the suggestions offered, unfortunately to no avail.
> 
> It appears that it is not possible to play this game on current Mac
> computers.
> 
> Sadly, I have found a reason not to get rid of my old (boat anchor)
> Performa.
> 
> Thanx again for all of your suggestions.
> 
> Regards
> Rosie :-)
> 
> 
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Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Rosie Cable]

Earlier this week I posted a question about Warcraft 2.

Thanx to all of the people who offered suggestions about what I could 
try, to get the game working on my EMac.


I tried all of the suggestions offered, unfortunately to no avail.

It appears that it is not possible to play this game on current Mac 
computers.


Sadly, I have found a reason not to get rid of my old (boat anchor) 
Performa.


Thanx again for all of your suggestions.

Regards
Rosie :-)

Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Craig Ringer]

On Wed, 2005-04-27 at 08:22 +0800, Rosie Cable wrote:
> Thanx Daniel
> 
> Tried out what you suggested but even when I tried running the program 
> from the hard drive, it still asked for the disc to be inserted, and 
> the same problem kept happening,,, and happening... and happening.

Sounds like copy protection. It's probably trying to use some low-level
hack to read the drive in raw mode and finding it won't work in Classic.
One of the many reasons why copy protection hurts legitimate users but
doesn't stop abusers (*sigh*).

Unless there are patches for OS/X compatibility or some trick to enable
it to do what it wants to do in classic, I'd say you're out of luck.
Unless you can find a patch to disable the copy protection (you own the
darn thing after all!), of course, but they're of dubious legaility and
may be very hard to find for old Mac games.

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Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Daniel Kerr]

On 27/04/2005 8:22 AM, "Rosie Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanx Daniel
> 
> Tried out what you suggested but even when I tried running the program
> from the hard drive, it still asked for the disc to be inserted, and
> the same problem kept happening,,, and happening... and happening.
> 
> I checked the disc this morning on an old performa, and it loads up
> perfectly okay, so I know the disc is okay, but for whatever the
> reason, the EMac doesn't like it.
> 
> Regards
> Rosie :-)
> 
> 
> On 27/04/2005, at 12:49 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:
> 
>> On 27/04/2005 12:33 AM, "Rosie Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>>> This may be an old question, but I wasn't able to find anything in the
>>> archives (using the search box). I'm hoping someone out there may know
>>> the answer.
>>> 
>>> I have an EMac G4 Superdrive (just over a year old) and I can't play
>>> the Warcraft II (Tides of Darkness) game.  When I insert the disc, it
>>> appears on the desktop as two CD icons - one is Audio CD and the other
>>> is Warcraft CD. The Audio CD icon has only music from the game on it,
>>> but the Warcraft CD will let me load (to a point).
>>> 
>>> When I load the Warcraft disc, it plays through the introduction,
>>> right
>>> through to the menu that asks about what type of campaign I want to
>>> play. When I press 'single player', the message box appears asking me
>>> to insert the game disc (which at this time is already inserted). I
>>> press OK to say that disc is inserted, and the same message box
>>> appears
>>> asking the same question again. Each time I press OK the same thing
>>> happens again.
>>> 
>>> I contacted Blizzard, but their only solution related to the patches
>>> on
>>> their website. The patches didn't make a difference.   I have tried
>>> everything that I can.
>>> 
>>> This may possibly be the most stupid question ever asked (but hey, I'm
>>> not computer savvy, only a part time user!), Is it possible that the
>>> game CD can't be read because I have a DVD drive as opposed to a CD
>>> drive?
>>> 
>>> If that's not the problem, does anyone know if there is any way of
>>> fixing this problem?  I have Warcraft III but have never been able to
>>> get into it.  prefer playing Warcraft II.
>>> 
>>> Please help me feed my addiction
>>> 
>>> Rosie  :-)
>>> 
>>> 
>> At a guess I would think you may need to copy the game to the drive.
>> (Assuming you haven't done this already).
>> On the CD it will either be an installer (which you need to run and it
>> will
>> install the game onto the hard drive), or it's the game itself and you
>> need
>> to copy this to the hard Drive. (Somewhere like the applications
>> folder).
>> Once it's installed (or copied) try running it from this new location
>> (Applications folder) and if I'm correct you should find it works. I
>> would
>> assume that running it from the CD, won't allow it to create the
>> necessary
>> files it needs (A CD being a locked media).
>> 
>> Try that and let us know how you go.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> Daniel
>> (Whose bought World Of Warcraft, but hasn't loaded it in fear of not
>> actually getting any work done then!) :o)

Hi Rosie

As Rod mentioned, it would appear that the game doesn't like playing in
Classic. You could try downloading some of the patches and run them and see
if they work. Otherwise it looks like Warcraft 3 (which runs in OSX) may be
the way you have to go I'm afraid. (It's actually very good, I finished both
that game and the expansion pack) :o)

Here are some links that I hope help.





Hope something there helps.
Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
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Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Rod]

On 27/04/2005, at 8:22 AM, Rosie Cable wrote:


Thanx Daniel

Tried out what you suggested but even when I tried running the program 
from the hard drive, it still asked for the disc to be inserted, and 
the same problem kept happening,,, and happening... and happening.


I checked the disc this morning on an old performa, and it loads up 
perfectly okay, so I know the disc is okay, but for whatever the 
reason, the EMac doesn't like it.


Regards
Rosie :-)




It is entirely possible that Warcraft II is not compatible with 9.2.2 
in Classic mode.  As you can't boot into OS 9 directly on your eMac, 
there is no way of finding this out.  Guess the old Performa might have 
a use after all :-)  I'm figuring 8.5 or 8.6 was the OS of choice at 
the time Warcraft II was released.


Seeya

Rod!

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Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Rosie Cable]

Thanx Daniel

Tried out what you suggested but even when I tried running the program 
from the hard drive, it still asked for the disc to be inserted, and 
the same problem kept happening,,, and happening... and happening.


I checked the disc this morning on an old performa, and it loads up 
perfectly okay, so I know the disc is okay, but for whatever the 
reason, the EMac doesn't like it.


Regards
Rosie :-)


On 27/04/2005, at 12:49 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote:


On 27/04/2005 12:33 AM, "Rosie Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This may be an old question, but I wasn't able to find anything in the
archives (using the search box). I'm hoping someone out there may know
the answer.

I have an EMac G4 Superdrive (just over a year old) and I can't play
the Warcraft II (Tides of Darkness) game.  When I insert the disc, it
appears on the desktop as two CD icons - one is Audio CD and the other
is Warcraft CD. The Audio CD icon has only music from the game on it,
but the Warcraft CD will let me load (to a point).

When I load the Warcraft disc, it plays through the introduction, 
right

through to the menu that asks about what type of campaign I want to
play. When I press 'single player', the message box appears asking me
to insert the game disc (which at this time is already inserted). I
press OK to say that disc is inserted, and the same message box 
appears

asking the same question again. Each time I press OK the same thing
happens again.

I contacted Blizzard, but their only solution related to the patches 
on

their website. The patches didn't make a difference.   I have tried
everything that I can.

This may possibly be the most stupid question ever asked (but hey, I'm
not computer savvy, only a part time user!), Is it possible that the
game CD can't be read because I have a DVD drive as opposed to a CD
drive?

If that's not the problem, does anyone know if there is any way of
fixing this problem?  I have Warcraft III but have never been able to
get into it.  prefer playing Warcraft II.

Please help me feed my addiction

Rosie  :-)



At a guess I would think you may need to copy the game to the drive.
(Assuming you haven't done this already).
On the CD it will either be an installer (which you need to run and it 
will
install the game onto the hard drive), or it's the game itself and you 
need
to copy this to the hard Drive. (Somewhere like the applications 
folder).

Once it's installed (or copied) try running it from this new location
(Applications folder) and if I'm correct you should find it works. I 
would
assume that running it from the CD, won't allow it to create the 
necessary

files it needs (A CD being a locked media).

Try that and let us know how you go.

Thanks!
Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
(Whose bought World Of Warcraft, but hasn't loaded it in fear of not
actually getting any work done then!) :o)
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Re: An old question about Warcraft 2

[Daniel Kerr]

On 27/04/2005 12:33 AM, "Rosie Cable" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> This may be an old question, but I wasn't able to find anything in the
> archives (using the search box). I'm hoping someone out there may know
> the answer.
> 
> I have an EMac G4 Superdrive (just over a year old) and I can't play
> the Warcraft II (Tides of Darkness) game.  When I insert the disc, it
> appears on the desktop as two CD icons - one is Audio CD and the other
> is Warcraft CD. The Audio CD icon has only music from the game on it,
> but the Warcraft CD will let me load (to a point).
> 
> When I load the Warcraft disc, it plays through the introduction, right
> through to the menu that asks about what type of campaign I want to
> play. When I press 'single player', the message box appears asking me
> to insert the game disc (which at this time is already inserted). I
> press OK to say that disc is inserted, and the same message box appears
> asking the same question again. Each time I press OK the same thing
> happens again.
> 
> I contacted Blizzard, but their only solution related to the patches on
> their website. The patches didn't make a difference.   I have tried
> everything that I can.
> 
> This may possibly be the most stupid question ever asked (but hey, I'm
> not computer savvy, only a part time user!), Is it possible that the
> game CD can't be read because I have a DVD drive as opposed to a CD
> drive?
> 
> If that's not the problem, does anyone know if there is any way of
> fixing this problem?  I have Warcraft III but have never been able to
> get into it.  prefer playing Warcraft II.
> 
> Please help me feed my addiction
> 
> Rosie  :-)
> 
> 
At a guess I would think you may need to copy the game to the drive.
(Assuming you haven't done this already).
On the CD it will either be an installer (which you need to run and it will
install the game onto the hard drive), or it's the game itself and you need
to copy this to the hard Drive. (Somewhere like the applications folder).
Once it's installed (or copied) try running it from this new location
(Applications folder) and if I'm correct you should find it works. I would
assume that running it from the CD, won't allow it to create the necessary
files it needs (A CD being a locked media).

Try that and let us know how you go.

Thanks!
Enjoy!

Kind Regards
Daniel
(Whose bought World Of Warcraft, but hasn't loaded it in fear of not
actually getting any work done then!) :o)
---
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MacWizardry

Phone: 0414 795 960
Email: 
Web:   


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An old question about Warcraft 2

[Rosie Cable]

This may be an old question, but I wasn't able to find anything in the 
archives (using the search box). I'm hoping someone out there may know 
the answer.


I have an EMac G4 Superdrive (just over a year old) and I can't play 
the Warcraft II (Tides of Darkness) game.  When I insert the disc, it 
appears on the desktop as two CD icons - one is Audio CD and the other 
is Warcraft CD. The Audio CD icon has only music from the game on it, 
but the Warcraft CD will let me load (to a point).


When I load the Warcraft disc, it plays through the introduction, right 
through to the menu that asks about what type of campaign I want to 
play. When I press 'single player', the message box appears asking me 
to insert the game disc (which at this time is already inserted). I 
press OK to say that disc is inserted, and the same message box appears 
asking the same question again. Each time I press OK the same thing 
happens again.


I contacted Blizzard, but their only solution related to the patches on 
their website. The patches didn't make a difference.   I have tried 
everything that I can.


This may possibly be the most stupid question ever asked (but hey, I'm 
not computer savvy, only a part time user!), Is it possible that the 
game CD can't be read because I have a DVD drive as opposed to a CD 
drive?


If that's not the problem, does anyone know if there is any way of 
fixing this problem?  I have Warcraft III but have never been able to 
get into it.  prefer playing Warcraft II.


Please help me feed my addiction

Rosie  :-)