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Hi RonniThank you for that.I had a look at the link and it is for the initial set up. Once you are in there is no way to change.She is stuck on her PC for now and I have a glorious 27" iMac to myself for a couple of weekscheersPedroOn 13/12/2009, at 7:43 AM, Ronda Brown wrote:Hi Pedro,It looks likeIncrediMail doesn’t implement IMAP correctly. It doesn’t synchronize the IMAP folders, but instead just downloads the messages, while leaving them on the server.From the IncrediMail Help files:"How you can easily configure your IMAP email account in IncrediMail.Note that although IncrediMail does not support IMAP folders synchronization at this time, a copy of each email message is left on the IMAP server, ensuring thatincoming messages are available for download on all your email accounts and computers."Scroll down to No.3 underManually configuring the Email Accounthttp://help.incredimail.com/incredimail/help_center/help_article.aspx?is=tarticle_id=6Cheers,Ronni17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GBOS X 10.6.2 Snow LeopardWindows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance)On 12/12/2009, at 9:08 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanI think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop.Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth livingThank you for the inputPedroFrom the iPhoneOn 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'.Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible.If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox.Could this be what is happening?cheers, Susan.On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi Susan and PeteI tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox.After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account.So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC.I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if thenew MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problemsI hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen)I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at workregardsPedroOn 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote:Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs):To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below.incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.auOutgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.auIts no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different.cheers, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it worksThanks for thatCheersPedroFrom the iPhoneOn 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote:Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan.On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote:Hi SusanIt appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PCuntil she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" screento myself for awhile. cheersPedroG'day Pedro.I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting...Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is
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Hi Susan and Pete I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox. After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account. So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC. I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if the new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work regards Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs): To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below. incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different. cheers, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro G'day Pedro. I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting... Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that one day!) I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only happen when I hit the Send/Receive button (or whatever it's called). I've always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server immediately. Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but that's another story). So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible. Oh, and my email is POP with Internode. Enjoy the new 27. Pete Smith On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'. Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible. If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox. Could this be what is happening? cheers, Susan. On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan and Pete I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox. After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account. So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC. I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if the new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work regards Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs): To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below. incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different. cheers, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro G'day Pedro. I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting... Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that one day!) I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only happen when I hit the Send/Receive button (or whatever it's called). I've always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server immediately. Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but that's another story). So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible. Oh, and my email is POP with Internode. Enjoy the new 27. Pete Smith On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded
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Hi Susan I think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop. Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth living Thank you for the input Pedro From the iPhone On 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'. Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible. If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox. Could this be what is happening? cheers, Susan. On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan and Pete I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox. After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account. So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC. I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if the new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work regards Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs): To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below. incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different. cheers, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro G'day Pedro. I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting... Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that one day!) I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only happen when I hit the Send/Receive button (or whatever it's called). I've always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server immediately. Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but
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Hi Pedro, It looks like IncrediMail doesn’t implement IMAP correctly. It doesn’t synchronize the IMAP folders, but instead just downloads the messages, while leaving them on the server. From the IncrediMail Help files: How you can easily configure your IMAP email account in IncrediMail. Note that although IncrediMail does not support IMAP folders synchronization at this time, a copy of each email message is left on the IMAP server, ensuring that incoming messages are available for download on all your email accounts and computers. Scroll down to No.3 under Manually configuring the Email Account http://help.incredimail.com/incredimail/help_center/help_article.aspx?is=tarticle_id=6 Cheers, Ronni 17 MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) On 12/12/2009, at 9:08 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan I think you are right with the settings. I went thru it today with some help from iinet. The problem is she is using incredimail which is like a drug. Once you start using it , you can't stop. Some of the emails she requires access to are very important ethics cases and if she loses them my life won't be worth living Thank you for the input Pedro From the iPhone On 12/12/2009, at 20:55, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I wonder if your wife's POP3 email account is set up to 'remove from server' on her Windows PC. Therefore, the inbox on the server keeps getting emptied, and because the IMAP account sets the computer inbox to sync with the server inbox, the messages on the IMAP account keep 'disappearing'. Its possible to set up the Windows email account to leave the messages on the server, just as it is in Apple Mail. Its a matter of ticking a particular box in the setup. You can modify the email account at any time. So, you can have both POP3 and IMAP accounts accessing the same inbox on the remote server (iinet). Again, this is something I have done myself, so know its possible. If you think of the IMAP folders on your computer as being 'mirrors' of the inbox on the remote server (at iinet), then its logical that if the messages are being removed after being downloaded to the Windows computer that they will be removed from your local inbox. Could this be what is happening? cheers, Susan. On 12/12/2009, at 6:47 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan and Pete I tried your idea Susan late last night when I got home and it set easy and worked fine except I couldn't get messages to stay in the inbox. After a lot of reading today and a few experiments I worked out it is not recommended to mix imap and a pop account. So, until she finishes dealing with her overseas contacts in a few weeks she will be using the PC. I will be following your recommendations though and setting up the iMac with an imap account as she will need to access email from two separate computers if the new MacBook Pro arrives under the tree in time for Christmas. I also found a friendly ear at iinet that said I could set it up that way with no problems I hope everyone has a good time tomorrow at the annual Christmas get together and manages to stay out of the heat (don't forget the sun screen) I will be thinking of you all as I sweat over a hot paint desk at work regards Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 9:41 PM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs): To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below. incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different. cheers, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro G'day Pedro. I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting... Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day
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Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
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G'day Pedro. I've still still got my old PC and use it quite regularly for dedicated Windows thingys. It's also good for getting the heart pumping under higher blood pressure and exercising the vocal chords plus plenty of quiet time waiting, waiting, waiting... Anyhow, both still receive email. My iMac is set to delete from the server after 1 day whilst my PC is still set to delete immediately (must change that one day!) I go through Mailwasher on the PC to scan emails and sort junk, etc before it opens up Outlook and downloads what I want. Any email downloads will only happen when I hit the Send/Receive button (or whatever it's called). I've always had this setup. When I first got my iMac last year, I downloaded emails to both. The iMac is set to automatically download from my main account (and delete from the server after 1 day) and manually from both my email accounts. The PC is still set to download manually but deletes from the server immediately. Having said that, I haven't used the PC to download email for ages. However, it's a good emergency tool (which I may be using next week when my iMac is going to be looked at for possible repair - thank goodness for Applecare -- they are very helpful, spent over two hours on the phone with them today - but that's another story). So in summary answer to your question. My PC and iMac do it so it is possible. Oh, and my email is POP with Internode. Enjoy the new 27. Pete Smith iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 4GB 800 MHz DDR2 SDRAM 750GB Hdrive OS X 10.6.2 On 10/12/2009, at 23:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: mail accounts
Hi Pedro, I have the following settings in Mail on my MacBook (and other Macs): To set up I go to Prefences, add a new email account, then choose IMAP instead of POP3, and give my username, password and set the server setting as below. incoming server: smtp.iinet.net.au Outgoing server: smtp.iinet.net.au Its no more difficult than setting up a new POP3 account, just the servers are different. cheers, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 5:15 PM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It was iinet that told me. I guess you can't believe everything you hear from tech support. I shall have to do some more digging to see how it works Thanks for that Cheers Pedro From the iPhone On 11/12/2009, at 16:33, Susan Hastings susanhasti...@me.com wrote: Hi Pedro, I'm using iinet's IMAP for my emails on a daily basis. I wonder who told you that IMAP was unavailable. regards, Susan. On 11/12/2009, at 10:51 AM, Pedro wrote: Hi Susan It appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PC until she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27 screen to myself for awhile. cheers Pedro On 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote: Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard Screen-shot-2009-11-25-at-10.46.07-AM.jpg -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
mail accounts
Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: mail accounts
Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: mail accounts
Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs. or you can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple. cheers, Susan. On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote: Evening all I am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new 27 iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3) Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhone Mail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhone Thanks in advance Pedro MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo 2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Re: mail accounts
Hi SusanIt appears iinet will only support pop3 accounts so she is stuck with the PCuntil she finishes the work she doing. In the mean time I get the glorious 27" screento myself for awhile. cheersPedroOn 11/12/2009, at 6:06 AM, Susan Hastings wrote:Hi Pedro, when setting up your email account, you go to the Advanced tab and check 'leave messages on server'. This means that the messages stay on your server and can be downloaded to any computer you are using. Even if you delete items on a particular mac, they are still on the server and the other Macs.oryou can set up the iinet account as an IMAP account, rather than POP, and this means the inbox syncs with your Macs. In this case, deleting an email on one Mac will delete it from all your Macs when you connect to the server. Check the iinet site for details on setting up the IMAP settings, its very simple.cheers, Susan.On 10/12/2009, at 11:21 PM, Pedro wrote:Evening allI am currently transferring all the information and data from my darling other half's ageing PC to our new27" iMac (thank you Daniel Kerr) and would like to set up her mail account which is through iinet (pop3)Is it possible to receive mail on the iMac while still receiving mail on the PC as is the case with my MacBook and iPhoneMail from iinet goes to both my MacBook and to my iPhoneThanks in advancePedroMacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo2 GB/667 MHz 160GB OS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au-- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List --Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtmlGuidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtmlUnsubscribe - mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au MacBook 2.2GHz Core 2 Duo2 GB/667 MHz 160GBOS X 10.6.2 Snow Leopard --TheWAMacintoshUserGroupMailingList-- Archives-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines-http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe-mailto:wamug-unsubscr...@wamug.org.au
Accessing mail accounts.
Will Mail access mail accounts other than my own, especially one hosted on a different ISP? Naturally I will have all the passwords etc! Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
Re: Accessing mail accounts.
Go to Mail Preferences accounts and look at an existing account : You should be able to set up a new account with all the relevant information .. including the mail server where the Mail account is located ... Now whether you can get to that mail will probably depend on whether Westent allows you to get to that server for the mail . You could just try it for the trial remember to make your Mac leave the mail on the server Bob On 31 Aug 2006, at 11:50 AM, Severin Crisp wrote: Will Mail access mail accounts other than my own, especially one hosted on a different ISP? Naturally I will have all the passwords etc! Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Severin, Bob This shouldn't be a problem. I use Entourage rather than mail but AFAIK they should work the same - I can't imagine that Mail would be less functional than Entourage in this respect ;o (The following all applies to standard POP mail accounts - I've never played with IMAP) Here in Albany I have several email accounts set up in Entourage some access email accounts with my ISP (Bigpond) others access email accounts set up as part of a website I run (different server, different company, different domains) its just a case of setting up each account with the correct username/password and making sure that you nominate the correct mail server for that particular account. Similarly, when I go up to stay with family in Perth and want to check my email I just go onto their (Windows) computer open up Outlook (their mail program) and set up a new account with my bigpond details (the other accounts just wait till I get back to Albany, though I could also set them up if I wanted). Their ISP is iiNet but that doesn't make a difference. Since I like to archive lots of mail, I normally set up accounts on other computers to leave the mail on the server - then when I return to Albany all the mail I read in Perth is still waiting and I can delete/save as I choose) One thing to be aware of is that, although the POP server obviously has to be set as the mails server for the account to be accessed, it is generally safer to set the sending STMP server to the mail server of the ISP you are connected through since a lot of ISPs (including Bigpond) don't let you send mail via other STMP servers due to (they say) spammer abuse. I used to send email from my website accounts via the website STMP server but that stopped working quite a while ago when Bigpond introduced this policy but changing the STMP server to Bigpond's solved the problem. Hope that helps. Cheers Neil -- Neil R. Houghton Albany, Western Australia Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 Fax: +61 8 9841 6137 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- on 31/8/06 12:41 PM, Robert Howells at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Go to Mail Preferences accounts and look at an existing account : You should be able to set up a new account with all the relevant information .. including the mail server where the Mail account is located ... Now whether you can get to that mail will probably depend on whether Westent allows you to get to that server for the mail . You could just try it for the trial remember to make your Mac leave the mail on the server Bob On 31 Aug 2006, at 11:50 AM, Severin Crisp wrote: Will Mail access mail accounts other than my own, especially one hosted on a different ISP? Naturally I will have all the passwords etc! Severin Crisp Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mail accounts
I have five email accounts in mail with one having the predominant usage. Is there a setting to force the selection of New come up with a selected account. It invariably comes up with the one I least want and this causes confusion if I forget to change it. Like this one came up with [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would be rejected by WAMUG as sevcrisp rather than crisp is subscribed to wamug. Severin Crisp I realise this is a very mundane query after all the high powered discussion on processor chips that has consumed the last couple of days! Assoc Professor R Severin Crisp, FIP, CPhys, FAIP 15 Thomas St, Mount Clarence, Albany, 6330, Western Australia. Phone (08) 9842 1950 (Int'l +61 8 9842 1950) email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web pages http://www.JennyCrisp.com.au http://members.westnet.com.au/Crisp
Re: Mail accounts
Severin Try going to Mail, Preferences, Accounts and drop and drag your accounts into the order of preference. Wendy On 08 Jun 2005, at 11:51, Severin Crisp wrote: I have five email accounts in mail with one having the predominant usage. Is there a setting to force the selection of New come up with a selected account. It invariably comes up with the one I least want and this causes confusion if I forget to change it. Like this one came up with [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would be rejected by WAMUG as sevcrisp rather than crisp is subscribed to wamug. Severin Crisp Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Coastal Road Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island tel/ans/fax: +2306257399 iChat/MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail accounts
On 08/06/2005, at 15:51 , Severin Crisp wrote: I have five email accounts in mail with one having the predominant usage. Is there a setting to force the selection of New come up with a selected account. It invariably comes up with the one I least want and this causes confusion if I forget to change it. Like this one came up with [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would be rejected by WAMUG as sevcrisp rather than crisp is subscribed to wamug. Severin Crisp Easy: Preferences-Composing In Addressing, Send new mail from: -josh
Re: Mail accounts
Hadn't noticed that one. Thanks Josh. Wendy On 08 Jun 2005, at 12:37, Josh McKinnon wrote: Easy: Preferences-Composing In Addressing, Send new mail from: -josh Wendy Austin Thomas Oswin Coastal Road Pomponette via Surinam Mauritius Island tel/ans/fax: +2306257399 iChat/MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mail accounts
On 08/06/2005, at 4:37 PM, Josh McKinnon wrote: On 08/06/2005, at 15:51 , Severin Crisp wrote: I have five email accounts in mail with one having the predominant usage. Is there a setting to force the selection of New come up with a selected account. It invariably comes up with the one I least want and this causes confusion if I forget to change it. Like this one came up with [EMAIL PROTECTED] which would be rejected by WAMUG as sevcrisp rather than crisp is subscribed to wamug. Severin Crisp Easy: Preferences-Composing In Addressing, Send new mail from: -josh H ! I have mail 1.3.9 (v619/619.2)and I do not see that choice ! ? but then I have only 2 accounts : ? Bob
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
And the rest of us will leave, including us here in GMUG land who had a very nice little website running, supporting Apple products. so be it. Valé iTools and trust in Apple. Reg Well, given that the other option is Apple's financial status going down the tubes, and the company with it, it has to make these decisions. I'd rather have the Apple that I really haven't been able to trust for the past decade or so (and only loosely understand) than no Apple at all. Sad, but then that's what economic rationalism gets you. Have fun, Shay I find it hard to believe that Apple's financial survival depends on charging for iTools. If it continues to provide the service but charges and then most of the punters spit the dummy and don't sign up for the service - it still incurs the costs of providing the service, it doesn't bring in much revenue from it and it suffers the intangible (but real in terms of future revenue) cost of loss of customer loyalty. It doesn't sound like good business to me! Just my 2c worth. Neil
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
I find it hard to believe that Apple's financial survival depends on charging for iTools. If it continues to provide the service but charges and then most of the punters spit the dummy and don't sign up for the service - it still incurs the costs of providing the service, it doesn't bring in much revenue from it and it suffers the intangible (but real in terms of future revenue) cost of loss of customer loyalty. It doesn't sound like good business to me! Just my 2c worth. Neil John's earlier e-mail contained the details. Apple's financial survival depends on public perception. If it has a bad quarter (or indeed, even when it has a good quarter!) it's perceived as being 'doomed', share prices plummet, reporters start using words like 'death spiral' etc. Pretty soon people actually begin to believe the garbage that's fed to them by uninformed reporters and 'market analysts. So, to make this quarter profitable, Apple needs more income. Hardware sales are down more than expected. So they ship a Windows version of the iPod, and they start charging for iTools. At 8:12 +0800 1/8/2002, John Currie wrote: iTools is estimated to cost Apple between $10 and $15 million If all the current subscribers pay $99, the return would be of the order of $220 million If all the current subscribers paid $20, the return would be $40 million Then Geoff Duncan replied: Yep: that's about right. And if 10 to 15 percent of iTools users convert at $50 (as our poll may or may not indicate), the first year would bring Apple from $12 to $16 million. Conversion from free to paid online services has typically been around ten percent; if Apple can convert fifteen percent, they'll be ahead of the industry. In theory. The changeover also allows the service administrators to do a shakeout and drop all the accounts that are abusing the system (warez dudez etc.) To quote MWJ http://www.macjournals.com/: Most iTools users, faced with the glory that is .Mac, seem stunned that there is no less expensive option to maintain iTools-like status. If you just want your mac.com E-mail address or a couple of home pages, why do you have to pay for Backup, Virex, iDisk space you may not need, or the other .Mac amenities? This goes back to the prologue of our Macworld Expo story: for the rest of this year, as little as US$3 million in profit may make the difference between Apple's perceived success or failure. In an interview with CNet News, Phil Schiller, Apple's head of marketing, said that free-to-fee conversions typically see about a 10% retention rate, but that he certainly hope[s] we do better than the industry average. Do the math. The major target for .Mac right now is existing iTools subscribers. Apple says there are 2.2 million of them. If 10% of those convert at US$50 per year, that's US$11 million in extra revenue this quarter. The promotion to provide your first year of .Mac for half-price expires on 2002.09.30, within a day or two of the end of Apple's 2002 fiscal year. Presuming that 90% or more of that revenue is profit, given the vastly reduced bandwidth and management costs Apple will incur from a system that's 10% of its existing size, that would have been enough for the company to meet its estimates in the June quarter without amortizing RD expenses over three years. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer It must be bunnies! Opinions for hire [POQ] [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
Maybe Shay should post the article explaining the move. After reading it myself I can understand the rationale employed by Apple. Indeed if they didn't employ it, there was the likelihood their stock would have been dumped big time. It was a question of the company surviving or upsetting customers. A massive sell-off of the company's stock (and the associated plummeting stock price) is the last thing Apple needs if this happened it could have likely been the beginning of the end. I know it sounds ridiculous that it is more important to please the stock market than your customer base, but in terms of the viability of companies like Apple, this is very true (in the US at least!). You'll remember that Apple did well under the Pepsi man (at least initially) he kept the stock market happy even though the innovation and product offerings went severely downhill. The decision by Apple is simply a corporate reality. On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 10:32 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: And the rest of us will leave, including us here in GMUG land who had a very nice little website running, supporting Apple products. so be it. Valé iTools and trust in Apple. Reg Well, given that the other option is Apple's financial status going down the tubes, and the company with it, it has to make these decisions. I'd rather have the Apple that I really haven't been able to trust for the past decade or so (and only loosely understand) than no Apple at all. Sad, but then that's what economic rationalism gets you. Have fun, Shay I find it hard to believe that Apple's financial survival depends on charging for iTools. If it continues to provide the service but charges and then most of the punters spit the dummy and don't sign up for the service - it still incurs the costs of providing the service, it doesn't bring in much revenue from it and it suffers the intangible (but real in terms of future revenue) cost of loss of customer loyalty. It doesn't sound like good business to me! Just my 2c worth. Neil Keith Palmer Zytech Marketing Pty Ltd PO Box 342 Bunbury 6231 Phone: 0419927101 Fax: 0897915900 the online FireWire data storage store - http://www.zytech.com.au/
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
Yahoo.com.au still offer a free email POP account, as well as other free services, and so far they haven't started deleting old messages like hotmail has. If you hadn't noticed already noticed, hotmail staff have been playing with your account recently. Yahoo appears prone to spam - but does give an effective junk mail filter My 2 cents Daniel F. Antony N. Lord wrote: Seeing the number of my associates who I convinced to take up mac.com (iTools) e-mail accounts getting ready to lynch me / Apple can anyone recommend another free POP e-mail account? I'm sorry, I'm not using hotmail (put bluntly - it blows) and I'm not having them switch from their mail clients (mainly Eudora) to Outlurk. And yes, I had them all sign the anti-.mac petition. (* sigh *)
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
To paraphrase this week's MWJ article, Apple's in a financial crunch at the moment, because costs are up, hardware sales are down, and things are generally in the doldrums in the PC hardware industry. They can improve this quarter's profits by getting some income from iTools users, And the rest of us will leave, including us here in GMUG land who had a very nice little website running, supporting Apple products. so be it. Valé iTools and trust in Apple. Reg
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
And the rest of us will leave, including us here in GMUG land who had a very nice little website running, supporting Apple products. so be it. Valé iTools and trust in Apple. Reg Well, given that the other option is Apple's financial status going down the tubes, and the company with it, it has to make these decisions. I'd rather have the Apple that I really haven't been able to trust for the past decade or so (and only loosely understand) than no Apple at all. Sad, but then that's what economic rationalism gets you. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2003 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Free POP Mail Accounts?
Seeing the number of my associates who I convinced to take up mac.com (iTools) e-mail accounts getting ready to lynch me / Apple can anyone recommend another free POP e-mail account? I'm sorry, I'm not using hotmail (put bluntly - it blows) and I'm not having them switch from their mail clients (mainly Eudora) to Outlurk. And yes, I had them all sign the anti-.mac petition. (* sigh *) -- == = = = = Antony N. Lord = http://antonylord.com = = [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Perth, Western Australia = = = = ==
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
Seeing the number of my associates who I convinced to take up mac.com (iTools) e-mail accounts getting ready to lynch me / Apple can anyone recommend another free POP e-mail account? I'm sorry, I'm not using hotmail (put bluntly - it blows) and I'm not having them switch from their mail clients (mainly Eudora) to Outlurk. There is a list of other options at http://www.macintouch.com/dotmacalt.html I'm not sure how many of them are free though. Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2003 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
Yes, and although I'm still using my Mac, I've officially stopped encouraging colleagues to support and buy Mac until I'm given reason to believe that Apple are any different when it comes to 'screwing' the end-user. Phil At 10:29 PM +0800 31/7/02, Antony N. Lord wrote: And yes, I had them all sign the anti-.mac petition.
Re: Free POP Mail Accounts?
Yes, and although I'm still using my Mac, I've officially stopped encouraging colleagues to support and buy Mac until I'm given reason to believe that Apple are any different when it comes to 'screwing' the end-user. To paraphrase this week's MWJ article, Apple's in a financial crunch at the moment, because costs are up, hardware sales are down, and things are generally in the doldrums in the PC hardware industry. They can improve this quarter's profits by getting some income from iTools users, and at the same time reduce the cost of running iTunes by encouraging the leeching users (warez dudez, people with multiple accounts, etc) to go elsewhere or pay up. And of course selling iPods to Windows users :) Have fun, Shay -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer Join Sungroper in the Opinions for hire [POQ] 2003 World Solar Challenge [EMAIL PROTECTED] fnord http://sungroper.asn.au/
