Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[petercrisp]

HI again Ronni and others. Last night I had an opportunity to further
look into this. As I couldn't boot the HDD from the MBP directly, I
removed it and first mounted it to my wife's MBP as the host. I was
able to review into teh drive to see if there was any remaining
evidence of teh SMC Fan Controller software using the "Leftover"
search below. Nothing found. Then using System Preferences>Startup
Disc - I changed it over to the externally connected [via SATA] from
which the MBP rebooted itself. It took some time but successfully
booted and there was no evidence of the SMC Fan Controller visible
(Menu Bar - nothing)  and Login Items nothing there. 
From this I am happy now that I can simply use MA to bring over the
data into Tim's new machine when I get it whilst connected over SATA
adaptor.
I hope that process is trouble free as it has been for me on a number
of previous occasions. 
Thanks for help along the journey from those here.
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Mon, 28 May 2018 18:26:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Peter,
If you can get rid of SMCfanControl first on Tim’s MBP before doing
a Migration from old MBP to New MBP/MBA I feel it would be
safer.I’ve given as much detail as I can below on where you will
find all the associated files SMCfanControl installs across the
System.HOW TO COMPLETELY UNINSTALL SMCFANCONTROL & ALL SUPPORTIVE
FILES, CACHE FILES & OTHER ASSOCIATED ITEMS CREATED DURING THE SETUP
AND DAILY USAGE
After you delete this app from sight, its icon may still stay on the
menu bar and your fan speed is still under the control of this
app. So to FULLY UNINSTALL SMCFANCONTROL FOR MAC AND RESTORE THE
DEFAULT FAN RPM? 
_PRIOR TO THE UNINSTALL_, you are supposed to restore the Apple
defaults of fan speed, and then deactivate the app.
1. Click on smcFanControl icon on the menu bar, and choose ACTIVE
SETTING: > DEFAULT. 2. Quit smcFanControl in the menu bar.Besides,
you can launch Activity Monitor to check if it is running on the
background.Open up ACTIVITY MONITOR from the Dock, Launchpad, or
Spotlight.Select _target process_, and click the “_QUIT PROCES_s”
button in the upper left corner.3. Open Finder, select Applications in
the sidebar and delete/drag SMCFANCONTROL to the Trashor control-click
on the app & click ’_MOVE TO TRASH_(In your case Peter I think you
said it is in the Downloads folder)
DELETE SMCFANCONTROL LEFTOVERS
1.Open the Finder, click Go in the Menu bar, and select the option Go
to Folder…2.Type the path of USER LIBRARY inside _HOME FOLDER_:
~/LIBRARY and then hit Enter key.3.Type SMCFANCONTROL IN THE SEARCH
BAR, select Library, and delete matched items in the result.
4. Type the path of the current user’s LIBRARY FOLDER: /LIBRARY, and
then hit Enter key.5. Search for the associated items in the following
locations: /Library, /Library/Caches, /Library/Preferences,
/Library/Application Support, /Library/LaunchAgents,
/Library/LaunchDaemons, /Library/PreferencePanes,
/Library/StartupItemsControl-click the matched files or folders, and
select Move to Trash option.
6. EMPTY THE TRASH
Cheers,Ronni
13-INCH MACBOOK AIR (APRIL 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz8GB 1600MHz
LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
On 28 May 2018, at 4:49 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au [1] wrote:
Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and
tread carefully. 
Kind Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au [2]
To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete

 I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort
out SMC Fan Control later.

 SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware.
In between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all
traces of it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app
then reset the SMC!

 To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete
fresh installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy
required data.

 To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of
clone the HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac
and check where the fan control files are.

 Cheers
 Alan

 > On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, thanks for the tips, however to do steps 1 to 3 assumes I can 
actually boot Tims MBP in the first place to execute those steps with it 
running, unfortunately I can’t do that. His MBP is toast (Motherboard is failed 
and unit will not boot) and so the best I can do is remove the HDD from the 
chassis and connect/mount his HDD via SATA adaptor to a working MBP and browse 
into it to physically locate files and trash them that way. 

[This will still leave the OSX settings for SMC Fan Controller in place as they 
were when it collapsed.] That bit there in “[  ]” is all I am really worried 
about. 

If I can selectively using MA bring over all the data except the OSX settings 
then in all other respects I’m fairly comfortable as Alan and Neil have 
suggested in their responses that I can migrate without fear of infection from 
SMC. 

I will set about removing the HDD and mount to an MBP in the house to look into 
it for these “leftover” files.

Regards


Pete

> On 28 May 2018, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Peter,
> 
> If you can get rid of SMCfanControl first on Tim’s MBP before doing a 
> Migration from old MBP to New MBP/MBA I feel it would be safer.
> I’ve given as much detail as I can below on where you will find all the 
> associated files SMCfanControl installs across the System.
> 
> How to completely uninstall SMCfanControl & all supportive files, cache files 
> & other associated items created during the setup and daily usage
> 
> After you delete this app from sight, its icon may still stay on the menu bar 
> and your fan speed is still under the control of this app. 
> So to fully uninstall smcFanControl for Mac and restore the default fan rpm? 
> 
> Prior to the uninstall, you are supposed to restore the Apple defaults of fan 
> speed, and then deactivate the app.
> 
> 1. Click on smcFanControl icon on the menu bar, and choose Active Setting: > 
> Default. 
> 2. Quit smcFanControl in the menu bar.
> Besides, you can launch Activity Monitor to check if it is running on the 
> background.
> Open up Activity Monitor from the Dock, Launchpad, or Spotlight.
> Select target process, and click the “Quit Process” button in the upper left 
> corner.
> 3. Open Finder, select Applications in the sidebar and delete/drag 
> smcFanControl to the Trash
> or control-click on the app & click ’Move To Trash
> (In your case Peter I think you said it is in the Downloads folder)
> 
> Delete smcFanControl Leftovers
> 
> 1.Open the Finder, click Go in the Menu bar, and select the option Go to 
> Folder…
> 2.Type the path of User Library inside Home Folder: ~/Library and then hit 
> Enter key.
> 3.Type smcFanControl in the search bar, select Library, and delete matched 
> items in the result.
> 
> 4. Type the path of the current user’s Library Folder: /Library, and then hit 
> Enter key.
> 5. Search for the associated items in the following locations: /Library, 
> /Library/Caches, /Library/Preferences, /Library/Application Support, 
> /Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchDaemons, /Library/PreferencePanes, 
> /Library/StartupItems
> Control-click the matched files or folders, and select Move to Trash option.
> 
> 6. EMPTY THE TRASH
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
> 
>> On 28 May 2018, at 4:49 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
>> 
>> Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and tread 
>> carefully. 
>> 
>> Kind Regards
>> 
>> Pete.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> - Original Message -
>> From:
>> wamug@wamug.org.au
>> 
>> To:
>> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
>> Cc:
>> 
>> Sent:
>> Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
>> Subject:
>> Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Pete
>> 
>> I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort out SMC 
>> Fan Control later.
>> 
>> SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware. In 
>> between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all traces of 
>> it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app then reset the 
>> SMC!
>> 
>> To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete fresh 
>> installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy required data.
>> 
>> To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of clone 
>> the HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac and check 
>> wher

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,

If you can get rid of SMCfanControl first on Tim’s MBP before doing a Migration 
from old MBP to New MBP/MBA I feel it would be safer.
I’ve given as much detail as I can below on where you will find all the 
associated files SMCfanControl installs across the System.

How to completely uninstall SMCfanControl & all supportive files, cache files & 
other associated items created during the setup and daily usage

After you delete this app from sight, its icon may still stay on the menu bar 
and your fan speed is still under the control of this app. 
So to fully uninstall smcFanControl for Mac and restore the default fan rpm? 

Prior to the uninstall, you are supposed to restore the Apple defaults of fan 
speed, and then deactivate the app.

1. Click on smcFanControl icon on the menu bar, and choose Active Setting: > 
Default. 
2. Quit smcFanControl in the menu bar.
Besides, you can launch Activity Monitor to check if it is running on the 
background.
Open up Activity Monitor from the Dock, Launchpad, or Spotlight.
Select target process, and click the “Quit Process” button in the upper left 
corner.
3. Open Finder, select Applications in the sidebar and delete/drag 
smcFanControl to the Trash
or control-click on the app & click ’Move To Trash
(In your case Peter I think you said it is in the Downloads folder)

Delete smcFanControl Leftovers

1.Open the Finder, click Go in the Menu bar, and select the option Go to Folder…
2.Type the path of User Library inside Home Folder: ~/Library and then hit 
Enter key.
3.Type smcFanControl in the search bar, select Library, and delete matched 
items in the result.

4. Type the path of the current user’s Library Folder: /Library, and then hit 
Enter key.
5. Search for the associated items in the following locations: /Library, 
/Library/Caches, /Library/Preferences, /Library/Application Support, 
/Library/LaunchAgents, /Library/LaunchDaemons, /Library/PreferencePanes, 
/Library/StartupItems
Control-click the matched files or folders, and select Move to Trash option.

6. EMPTY THE TRASH

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4

> On 28 May 2018, at 4:49 pm, petercr...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and tread 
> carefully. 
> 
> Kind Regards
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From:
> wamug@wamug.org.au
> 
> To:
> "WAMUG Mailing List" 
> Cc:
> 
> Sent:
> Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
> Subject:
> Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data
> 
> 
> Hi Pete
> 
> I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort out SMC 
> Fan Control later.
> 
> SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware. In 
> between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all traces of 
> it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app then reset the 
> SMC!
> 
> To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete fresh 
> installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy required data.
> 
> To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of clone the 
> HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac and check where 
> the fan control files are.
> 
> Cheers
> Alan
> 
> 
> > On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from his 
> > installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan controller. I 
> > am in the process of getting myself a replacement Macbook (likely Macbook 
> > Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get it to successfully complete 
> > a Time Machine backup BUT this was with the 3rd party software still in 
> > place and therefore embedded within the settings. I don’t know where else 
> > it may have been located within the file structure, but I want to make sure 
> > I do not bring that SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 
> > 
> > During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA 
> > adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.
> > 
> > I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data from 
> > the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more ‘complete’ if I 
> > used Migration Assistant to use an Ethernet connection to restore data from 
> > the TM backup but carefully select what I restore so as not to bring back 
> > the ‘infected’ settings. 
> > 
> > It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of important data 
> > to restore either. Main thing

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Pete,

 

I can’t say that I have ever done a TM restore myself – I tend to use the TM 
backup if I need to go back to a previous version of a file or retrieve a 
previously deleted file. For a complete system restore/migration I rely on my 
super-duper clone of the whole disk. The TM backup also covers any activity 
since my last clone.

 

However here are a few thoughts:
Since you will be using a new computer which is a different model, I think that 
you would not be using MacOS recovery to restore from a TM back-up but rather 
Migration assistant to transfer from a TM back-up.
As Alan & I have suggested, the EASIEST way is to just do a normal migration 
and then just make sure you clean off any remaining traces of SMC Fan 
controller.
If you really want to keep the SMC Fan controller quarantined from the HD of 
the new MBP, I think the way I would do it is:
First setup the blank external drive as a clean bootable system.
Boot the MBP from the (now bootable) external drive make sure all software 
upgrades are current.
Use Migration assistant to do a full migration from your TM back-up.

Continue running from the  external HD - now with the migrated apps/data – 
until you are happy that everything is OK and there is no remaining traces of 
SMC Fan controller.
Once you are satisfied everything is OK, clone the external HD over to the MBP 
internal drive and reboot to the internal drive.
Double check that everything is OK and then proceed as normal.
This approach will take some time (depending on the amount of data involved) 
but it does keep the MBP HD uninvolved until you are happy with things.
 

You could keep using the external HD as a recovery clone for the MBP and erase 
the old TM drive and repurpose as the TM drive for the new MBP - I do like the 
belt and brace of TM and a bootable clone ;o)   - or whatever suits you going 
forward.

 

 

HTH

 

Cheers

 

 

Neil

-- 

Neil R. Houghton

Albany, Western Australia

Tel: +61 8 9841 6063

Email: n...@possumology.com

 

From:  on behalf of 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Monday, 28 May 2018 at 16:48
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 

HI Neil, that sounds like a good idea. I will give that a shot in the interim 
to give myself comfort to move forward on this. I've not done a TM restore to a 
blank external drive before, is this easy? How do I do this?  

Regards

 

Pete.



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From:

wamug@wamug.org.au

 

To:

"WAMUG" 

Cc:

 

Sent:

Sun, 27 May 2018 21:11:38 +0800

Subject:

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data


Hi Pete,

My personal view is that you might be worrying too much about how evil SMC Fan 
controller is ;o)

Before I repaired my iMac, after it's HD failure, I ran it for 2 years from an 
external HD clone - but when I first booted it up the HD fan went rapidly up to 
full speed - presumably because the iMac was not getting a valid temp signal 
from the dead HD. So I downloaded SSDFanControl and used it to limit the fan 
speed to a sensible value - and continued with this for around 2 years until I 
replaced the HD. However I did satisfy myself (using iStat menus) that internal 
temperature were OK.

Whilst I don't dispute that SMC Fan controller might have played a part in the 
demise of the MBP - I would suggest that this might be due to "cooking" the 
innards due to the blocked vents and the fan speed being set too low to 
counteract this rather than any inherent problem with the software. Don't get 
me wrong, I quite understand you not wanting to have this software on the new 
MBP - however, personally I would be quite happy migrating stuff over from the 
old system and then just doing a final check/clean up to make sure that there 
is no trace of it left.

However, if you really want to avoid any chance of it touching the new 
computer, one way might be to restore the TM backup to an external drive, then 
boot from this external drive and satisfy yourself that you have completely 
removed the curse of SMC Fan controller from the system on the external HD. 
Once you are happy with that - then migrate over from this "clean" version.


Just my thoughts.


Cheers


Neil
-- 
Neil R. Houghton
Albany, Western Australia
Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
Email: n...@possumology.com



-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 20:01
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from his 
installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan controller. I am in 
the process of getting myself a replacement Macbook (likely Macbook Air). 
Before the MBP failed I did actually get it to successfully complete a Time 
Machine backup BUT this was with the 3rd party software still in place and 
therefore embedded within the settings. I don’t know where else it may have 

Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[petercrisp]

Ok, thanks Alan, your notes and those from Neil I will explore and
tread carefully. 
Kind Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG Mailing List" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:16:50 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete

 I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort
out SMC Fan Control later.

 SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware.
In between shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all
traces of it. Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app
then reset the SMC!

 To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete
fresh installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy
required data.

 To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of
clone the HDD? You could then start up from the clone in another Mac
and check where the fan control files are.

 Cheers
 Alan

 > On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
 > 
 > Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring that
SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 
 > 
 > During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via
SATA adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan
Controller.
 > 
 > I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data
from the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more
‘complete’ if I used Migration Assistant to use an Ethernet
connection to restore data from the TM backup but carefully select
what I restore so as not to bring back the ‘infected’ settings. 
 > 
 > It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of
important data to restore either. Main things I can think of are
iTunes library, Photos library. My preference is Migration Assistant
for the completeness of how it doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA
and part manual drag/drop.
 > 
 > Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA
mounted state and verify before doing the actual migration to a
replacement MBA?
 > 
 > Regards
 > 
 > 
 > Pete
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Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[petercrisp]

HI Neil, that sounds like a good idea. I will give that a shot in the
interim to give myself comfort to move forward on this. I've not done
a TM restore to a blank external drive before, is this easy? How do I
do this?  

Regards
Pete.

- Original Message -
From: wamug@wamug.org.au
To:"WAMUG" 
Cc:
Sent:Sun, 27 May 2018 21:11:38 +0800
Subject:Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi Pete,

 My personal view is that you might be worrying too much about how
evil SMC Fan controller is ;o)

 Before I repaired my iMac, after it's HD failure, I ran it for 2
years from an external HD clone - but when I first booted it up the HD
fan went rapidly up to full speed - presumably because the iMac was
not getting a valid temp signal from the dead HD. So I downloaded
SSDFanControl and used it to limit the fan speed to a sensible value -
and continued with this for around 2 years until I replaced the HD.
However I did satisfy myself (using iStat menus) that internal
temperature were OK.

 Whilst I don't dispute that SMC Fan controller might have played a
part in the demise of the MBP - I would suggest that this might be due
to "cooking" the innards due to the blocked vents and the fan speed
being set too low to counteract this rather than any inherent problem
with the software. Don't get me wrong, I quite understand you not
wanting to have this software on the new MBP - however, personally I
would be quite happy migrating stuff over from the old system and then
just doing a final check/clean up to make sure that there is no trace
of it left.

 However, if you really want to avoid any chance of it touching the
new computer, one way might be to restore the TM backup to an external
drive, then boot from this external drive and satisfy yourself that
you have completely removed the curse of SMC Fan controller from the
system on the external HD. Once you are happy with that - then migrate
over from this "clean" version.

 Just my thoughts.

 Cheers

 Neil
 -- 
 Neil R. Houghton
 Albany, Western Australia
 Tel: +61 8 9841 6063
 Email: n...@possumology.com

 -Original Message-
 From:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 
 Reply-To: WAMUG 
 Date: Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 20:01
 To: WAMUG 
 Subject: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

 Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from
his installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan
controller. I am in the process of getting myself a replacement
Macbook (likely Macbook Air). Before the MBP failed I did actually get
it to successfully complete a Time Machine backup BUT this was with
the 3rd party software still in place and therefore embedded within
the settings. I don’t know where else it may have been located
within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring that
SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 

 During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA
adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.

 I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data
from the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more
‘complete’ if I used Migration Assistant to use an Ethernet
connection to restore data from the TM backup but carefully select
what I restore so as not to bring back the ‘infected’ settings. 

 It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of
important data to restore either. Main things I can think of are
iTunes library, Photos library. My preference is Migration Assistant
for the completeness of how it doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA
and part manual drag/drop.

 Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA mounted
state and verify before doing the actual migration to a replacement
MBA?

 Regards

 Pete
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Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Alan Smith]

Hi Pete

I think the easiest way would be to do a complete migration and sort out SMC 
Fan Control later.

SMC Fan Control has been around for a few years and is not malware.  In between 
shopping for a MBA you could investigate how to remove all traces of it.   
Apple support discussion guide is simple: trash the app then reset the SMC!

To be really really sure, the more difficult way would be a complete fresh 
installation. Install macOS, download wanted apps then copy required data.

To verify HDD contents would be tedious. Can you make a bootable of clone the 
HDD?  You could then start up from the clone in another Mac and check where the 
fan control files are.

Cheers
Alan


> On 27 May 2018, at 8:01 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from his 
> installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan controller. I am 
> in the process of getting myself a replacement Macbook (likely Macbook Air). 
> Before the MBP failed I did actually get it to successfully complete a Time 
> Machine backup BUT this was with the 3rd party software still in place and 
> therefore embedded within the settings. I don’t know where else it may have 
> been located within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not 
> bring that SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 
> 
> During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA adaptor 
> to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.
> 
> I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data from the 
> HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more ‘complete’ if I used 
> Migration Assistant  to use an Ethernet connection to restore data from the 
> TM backup but carefully select what I restore so as not to bring back the 
> ‘infected’ settings. 
> 
> It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of important data 
> to restore either. Main things I can think of are iTunes library, Photos 
> library. My preference is Migration Assistant for the completeness of how it 
> doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA and part manual drag/drop.
> 
> Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA mounted state 
> and verify before doing the actual migration to a replacement MBA?
> 
> Regards
> 
> 
> Pete
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Re: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Pete,

My personal view is that you might be worrying too much about how evil SMC Fan 
controller is  ;o)

Before I repaired my iMac, after it's HD failure, I ran it for 2 years from an 
external HD clone - but when I first booted it up the HD fan went rapidly up to 
full speed - presumably because the iMac was not getting a valid temp signal 
from the dead HD. So I downloaded SSDFanControl and used it to limit the fan 
speed to a sensible value - and continued with this for around 2 years until I 
replaced the HD. However I did satisfy myself (using iStat menus) that internal 
temperature were OK.

Whilst I don't dispute that SMC Fan controller might have played a part in the 
demise of the MBP - I would suggest that this might be due to "cooking" the 
innards due to the blocked vents and the fan speed being set too low to 
counteract this rather than any inherent problem with the software. Don't get 
me wrong, I quite understand you not wanting to have this software on the new 
MBP - however, personally I would be quite happy migrating stuff over from the 
old system and then just doing a final check/clean up to make sure that there 
is no trace of it left.

However, if you really want to avoid any chance of it touching the new 
computer, one way might be to restore the TM backup to an external drive, then 
boot from this external drive and satisfy yourself that you have completely 
removed the curse of SMC Fan controller from the system on the external HD. 
Once you are happy with that - then migrate over from this "clean" version.


Just my thoughts.


Cheers


Neil
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-Original Message-
From:  on behalf of Peter Crisp 

Reply-To: WAMUG 
Date: Sunday, 27 May 2018 at 20:01
To: WAMUG 
Subject: Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from his 
installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan controller. I am in 
the process of getting myself a replacement Macbook (likely Macbook Air). 
Before the MBP failed I did actually get it to successfully complete a Time 
Machine backup BUT this was with the 3rd party software still in place and 
therefore embedded within the settings. I don’t know where else it may have 
been located within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring 
that SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 

During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA 
adaptor to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.

I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data from 
the HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more ‘complete’ if I used 
Migration Assistant  to use an Ethernet connection to restore data from the TM 
backup but carefully select what I restore so as not to bring back the 
‘infected’ settings. 

It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of important data 
to restore either. Main things I can think of are iTunes library, Photos 
library. My preference is Migration Assistant for the completeness of how it 
doe it all. Maybe there is a part MA and part manual drag/drop.

Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA mounted state 
and verify before doing the actual migration to a replacement MBA?

Regards


Pete
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Migration Assistant selective restoration of data

[Peter Crisp]

Hi, recently I had my son’s MBP fail with what I believe was from his 
installation of some third party software which was SMC Fan controller. I am in 
the process of getting myself a replacement Macbook (likely Macbook Air). 
Before the MBP failed I did actually get it to successfully complete a Time 
Machine backup BUT this was with the 3rd party software still in place and 
therefore embedded within the settings. I don’t know where else it may have 
been located within the file structure, but I want to make sure I do not bring 
that SMC Fan Controller back into a replacement MBA. 

During the process of it failing, I managed to mount the HDD via SATA adaptor 
to another MBP and locate and trash the SMC Fan Controller.

I wonder would I be better off trying to selectively drag/drop data from the 
HDD when mounted via SATA adaptor or would it be more ‘complete’ if I used 
Migration Assistant  to use an Ethernet connection to restore data from the TM 
backup but carefully select what I restore so as not to bring back the 
‘infected’ settings. 

It is my 14YO son after all and it’s not like he has lots of important data to 
restore either. Main things I can think of are iTunes library, Photos library. 
My preference is Migration Assistant for the completeness of how it doe it all. 
Maybe there is a part MA and part manual drag/drop.

Is there some other way I can test the HDD contents in a SATA mounted state and 
verify before doing the actual migration to a replacement MBA?

Regards


Pete
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