Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-25 Thread Stephen Chape
Sorry Ronnie ….. I realise this is not related to Alan’s issue.

Just making a comment re sleeping Macs and USB hard drives !
I understood when I originally had this sleeping Mac issue that the problem was 
that HD manufacturers were not keeping up with Apple’s extremely low power in 
relation to the latest Macs when sleeping ?

For a while I tried to keep up with new HDs as they were released but could 
never see this low power issue being addressed by any of the HD manufacturers. 
So I eventually gave up looking !


 On 25 Nov 2014, at 3:11 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 
 On 25 Nov 2014, at 2:08 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 The problem I have with that is that my USB portable HD ejects if iMac is 
 put to sleep.
 
 That is the fault of the USB portable HD not the iMac going to sleep.
 The USB Drive is not entering 'standby mode' when the iMac is placed in sleep.
 
 That HD is my Time Machine Backup.
 Time Machine won't do a backup while the iMac is sleeping.
 
 So since I replaced my large mains HD with this one about a year ago, I no 
 longer sleep my iMac.
 I shut down every night and re-start each morning.
 
 That is your choice, which is fine.
 But it really doesn't have anything to do with Alan's issue with a 'suspect' 
 HD.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Success!

DiskWarrior.app 4.4 installed OK.  Used Target Mode with Firewire to scan the 
2009 iMac.   “Directory” was main area of action.  On completion, DW asserted 
that the old and new directories would be on Desktop and the proposed changes 
could be viewed.  This did not seem to happen so I accepted DW reconstructed 
directory (what other real choice is there!) but saved the log file for “later 
perusal”.  A few exceptions were noted with the “Files” test and no problems 
with “Hardware”.

iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
investigation, including no startup Chime;  iTunes certificates invalid; 
Dropbox on the menu bar is inactive; Sudoku is “damaged” (but I can download 
that again).

Thanks for your perserverence and help.  Disk Warrior certainly fixed things 
that Apple Disk Utility couldn’t.

I’ll send a closing email on the original iMac failing to start up thread to 
make things tidy in the WAMUG archives.

Cheers
Alan


On 24 Nov 2014, at 2:30 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Alan I've sent you an email offlist  Let me know if you want me to send the 
 DiskWarrior.app v 4.4 to you please.
 
 Ronni
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 2:28 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Your instructions are for Installing the DiskWarrior received via download 
 purchase.  They do not seem to apply to me.  But I did follow the steps re 
 trashing and restarting, with no benefit.
 
 Alsoft sell a new DiskWarrior for $100 or an “Upgrade” for $50.  I 
 understand the software can be downloaded and with a CD/DVD mailed out with 
 a 3-4 weeks wait.  I did not purchase either of these marketing variants.
 
 Alsoft also provide a free Update with no hard CD provided.  Serial number 
 of the original version must be (and was) provided.  A 2.5MB .dmg file was 
 downloaded to my “downloads” folder.   I assumed the Update version is just 
 the same as the Upgrade, but without a hard copy.
 
 I think Alsoft are playing games with semantics.  “Update” must refer to DW 
 software, NOT to a different Apple OS.
 
 The fine print in the Read Me file may explain it:
 
 The DiskWarrior 4.4 Disc Update
 
 Please Read This First
 
 This free updater application allows you to create a new startup disk 
 (CD/DVD) with the latest version of DiskWarrior using your original 
 (factory) DiskWarrior 4.0 to 4.3 disc. You can use your updated disc just as 
 you used your original disc to start up your Mac.
 
 Please note that your new DiskWarrior disc will contain the latest version 
 of DiskWarrior, but will still contain the same version of Mac OS X as your 
 original DiskWarrior disc. Alsoft cannot update the version of Mac OS X on 
 your disc with this updater application. This means that the disc created by 
 this updater will not be able to start up any Macs that your original 
 DiskWarrior disc is unable to start up. If you have purchased a new Mac that 
 requires a later version of Mac OS X than the copy of Mac OS X on your 
 original DiskWarrior disc, you'll need to purchase an update disc from 
 Alsoft.
 
 What if I have a new Macintosh that my current DiskWarrior 4 disc will not 
 start?
 
 You should order a new DiskWarrior disc containing a later version of Mac OS 
 X. You can contact our Customer Service department by calling 1-800-257-6381 
 or 281-353-4090.
 
 In any case, I think the Update has failed - at least it should have  
 updated the DW software for the old Snow Leopard utility.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
  
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:50 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Did you drag the DW 4.3 Application from Utilities into the Trash and empty 
 the trash  restart your Mac before trying to install v.4.4?
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 1) Open the 'DiskWarrior.dmg' file you received via download. This will 
 cause the disk image named 'DiskWarrior' to appear on your desktop.
 
 2)  Drag to the trash any existing copy of DiskWarrior you have installed. 
 You may need to restart in order to empty the trash.
 
 3) Select the DiskWarrior icon (the icon is a drive with a knight's helmet) 
 found in the upper left corner of the disk image window and drag it to your 
 hard disk. Alsoft recommends that DiskWarrior reside in the Utilities 
 folder within the Applications folder.
 
 4) To run DiskWarrior from your hard disk, simply double-click the 
 DiskWarrior icon. 
 In order to run DiskWarrior, you must be started from Mac OS X 10.3.9 or 
 later.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:04 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Any Disk Warrior users in Wamug?
 
 I have Disk Warrior 4.3 on disk and as a soft copy on a good iMac in 
 Utilities.  The internal HD on my 2009 iMac is faulty.   I 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronni Brown
Hi Alan,

I don't think your read the DiskWarrior Manual first before using DW from what 
you mentioned below.

Open DiskWarrior.app  - Go to 'Help  DiskWarrior Manual' in the Menu Bar
Then when the Manual opens in Preview - Go to File  Export -  export the 
DiskWarrior Manual.pdf to your Desktop.
-

What to Look for During Preview

When DiskWarrior presents the “preview disk,” you have the opportunity to check 
and test the disk as it will appear after it is rebuilt. You can run 
applications, open documents, and see if files and folders that you lost have 
been recovered.

If the original disk was visible on the desktop before you ran DiskWarrior, 
DiskWarrior will display both the original disk and the preview disk in the 
DiskWarrior Preview Window. Both of these disks will be locked during the 
preview, so you will not be able to make any changes to either of them. Both 
the original disk and the preview disk will appear within the panes of the 
DiskWarrior Preview Window.

DiskWarrior may create special folders at the root level of the disk. You 
should pay particular attention to the files and folders that DiskWarrior 
places in these folders. The folder called “Rescued Items” contains files and 
folders whose enclosing folder could not be found. If any of these files or 
folders are part of a software package, you may need to create enclosing 
folders with the correct names and locations after you have rebuilt your disk 
so that the software that uses these files works correctly, or you may need to 
reinstall the software package.

If DiskWarrior creates a folder titled “Damaged Items,” then this folder 
contains files that were recovered but may have problems. For instance, these 
files may have been truncated because blocks were missing from the file, or the 
existing directory information may have indicated that two files occupied the 
same block. The DiskWarrior Report created after the rebuild is completed will 
tell you if two files own the same block (refer to “What to Look for in the 
DiskWarrior Report” later in this document). If this is the case, then 
DiskWarrior will separate the two files for you after the directory is 
replaced. Once the rebuild is complete, you will need to determine which of 
these files can be salvaged and which has damaged data.

At this point in the process, if you discover that there are items missing from 
the preview disk, use the Find feature of the Preview Window to search for 
invisible items. Make sure the preview disk is the disk selected in the left 
pane.

In the event that critical items that you wish to recover remain missing during 
the preview, it is recommended that you do not proceed with the rebuild. Since 
the directory information for the items that are missing was overwritten or 
deleted at some point previously, DiskWarrior could not recover these items. 
You will need to send your disk to a professional recovery service to recover 
your lost files. While in preview, you should copy as many items from your disk 
as possible to another hard disk, FireWire disk, USB disk, etc., using the copy 
feature of the Preview Window. You may need to copy the original files to 
several disks, depending upon the amount and size of the files on the source 
and the size of the disks to which you are copying the files. Another option is 
to copy only the files that you absolutely need, such as those that have 
changed since your last backup, or only your data files if you are planning to 
reinstall your system and applications. In either case, it is possible that the 
Preview Window will not be able to copy all of the files you select. If the 
Preview Window displays such an error, select “Continue” to continue copying 
the remainder of the files you selected. When the copy operation is complete, 
you may want to attempt to copy the skipped files again in case the error is 
intermittent and the copy operation can be performed for those files. This will 
minimize the number of items that the recovery service will need to recover for 
you.


What to Look for in the DiskWarrior Report

After the rebuild has been completed, DiskWarrior will show you a DiskWarrior 
Report. When DiskWarrior first displays the DiskWarrior Report, it defaults to 
showing you a summary of all the problems found and repaired and DiskWarrior’s 
recommendation to you. However, if you wish to see more detail regarding the 
problems found and repaired, you can select the Details button for this 
information.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage


 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Success!
 
 DiskWarrior.app 4.4 installed OK.  Used Target Mode with Firewire to scan the 
 2009 iMac.   “Directory” was main area of action.  On completion, DW asserted 
 that the old and new directories would be on Desktop and the proposed 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Severin Crisp
A saga with ultimate success, more or less.  Alan your end result echoes my 
finding that Disk Warrior can be real magic!  It has saved me twice in the 
past.   I have DW and other service items on a separate drive and system for 
rescue and regular maintenance runs.  
Severin Crisp

Sent from Sev's iPad

 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Success!
 
 DiskWarrior.app 4.4 installed OK.  Used Target Mode with Firewire to scan the 
 2009 iMac.   “Directory” was main area of action.  On completion, DW asserted 
 that the old and new directories would be on Desktop and the proposed changes 
 could be viewed.  This did not seem to happen so I accepted DW reconstructed 
 directory (what other real choice is there!) but saved the log file for 
 “later perusal”.  A few exceptions were noted with the “Files” test and no 
 problems with “Hardware”.
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;  iTunes certificates invalid; 
 Dropbox on the menu bar is inactive; Sudoku is “damaged” (but I can download 
 that again).
 
 Thanks for your perserverence and help.  Disk Warrior certainly fixed things 
 that Apple Disk Utility couldn’t.
 
 I’ll send a closing email on the original iMac failing to start up thread 
 to make things tidy in the WAMUG archives.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 2:30 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Alan I've sent you an email offlist  Let me know if you want me to send the 
 DiskWarrior.app v 4.4 to you please.
 
 Ronni
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 2:28 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Your instructions are for Installing the DiskWarrior received via download 
 purchase.  They do not seem to apply to me.  But I did follow the steps re 
 trashing and restarting, with no benefit.
 
 Alsoft sell a new DiskWarrior for $100 or an “Upgrade” for $50.  I 
 understand the software can be downloaded and with a CD/DVD mailed out with 
 a 3-4 weeks wait.  I did not purchase either of these marketing variants.
 
 Alsoft also provide a free Update with no hard CD provided.  Serial number 
 of the original version must be (and was) provided.  A 2.5MB .dmg file was 
 downloaded to my “downloads” folder.   I assumed the Update version is just 
 the same as the Upgrade, but without a hard copy.
 
 I think Alsoft are playing games with semantics.  “Update” must refer to DW 
 software, NOT to a different Apple OS.
 
 The fine print in the Read Me file may explain it:
 
 The DiskWarrior 4.4 Disc Update
 
 Please Read This First
 
 This free updater application allows you to create a new startup disk 
 (CD/DVD) with the latest version of DiskWarrior using your original 
 (factory) DiskWarrior 4.0 to 4.3 disc. You can use your updated disc just 
 as you used your original disc to start up your Mac.
 
 Please note that your new DiskWarrior disc will contain the latest version 
 of DiskWarrior, but will still contain the same version of Mac OS X as your 
 original DiskWarrior disc. Alsoft cannot update the version of Mac OS X on 
 your disc with this updater application. This means that the disc created 
 by this updater will not be able to start up any Macs that your original 
 DiskWarrior disc is unable to start up. If you have purchased a new Mac 
 that requires a later version of Mac OS X than the copy of Mac OS X on your 
 original DiskWarrior disc, you'll need to purchase an update disc from 
 Alsoft.
 
 What if I have a new Macintosh that my current DiskWarrior 4 disc will not 
 start?
 
 You should order a new DiskWarrior disc containing a later version of Mac 
 OS X. You can contact our Customer Service department by calling 
 1-800-257-6381 or 281-353-4090.
 
 In any case, I think the Update has failed - at least it should have  
 updated the DW software for the old Snow Leopard utility.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
  
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:50 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Did you drag the DW 4.3 Application from Utilities into the Trash and 
 empty the trash  restart your Mac before trying to install v.4.4?
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 1) Open the 'DiskWarrior.dmg' file you received via download. This will 
 cause the disk image named 'DiskWarrior' to appear on your desktop.
 
 2)  Drag to the trash any existing copy of DiskWarrior you have installed. 
 You may need to restart in order to empty the trash.
 
 3) Select the DiskWarrior icon (the icon is a drive with a knight's 
 helmet) found in the upper left corner of the disk image window and drag 
 it to your hard disk. Alsoft recommends that DiskWarrior reside in the 
 Utilities folder within the Applications folder.
 
 4) To run DiskWarrior from your hard disk, simply double-click the 
 DiskWarrior icon. 
 In order to run DiskWarrior, you must be started from Mac OS X 10.3.9 or 
 later.
 
 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

I didn’t read the user Manual and certainly don’t fully understand the DW 
documentation.

I suggest there is an argument for regular DiskWarrior directory test/rebuilds. 
 The iMac has 5 years of OS X upgrades and accumulated little glitches that may 
have been detected and repaired before the “catastrophic” failure on Sunday.  
OS X does pretty well in keeping around 750,000 files in order.  What straw 
broke the camel’s back?  Was it a power spike during AirDrop?  Is the hard 
drive just becoming old and unhealthy?  Are there “bad sectors” or whatever?

End result may not be perfect, but gave me a working computer again.  
Fortunately it is the “No 2” Mac.  I will shift the more valuable files from 
the internal HD.  And leave Time Machine turned off rather than run a 300GB 
backup before I clean up.  I still have full SuperDuper bootable backups

Thanks again Ronni, for your help with Disk Warrior and restoration of the 
near-dead Mac.

Cheers
Alan


On 24 Nov 2014, at 5:18 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 
 I don't think your read the DiskWarrior Manual first before using DW from 
 what you mentioned below.
 
 Open DiskWarrior.app  - Go to 'Help  DiskWarrior Manual' in the Menu Bar
 Then when the Manual opens in Preview - Go to File  Export -  export the 
 DiskWarrior Manual.pdf to your Desktop.
 -
 
 What to Look for During Preview
 
 When DiskWarrior presents the “preview disk,” you have the opportunity to 
 check and test the disk as it will appear after it is rebuilt. You can run 
 applications, open documents, and see if files and folders that you lost have 
 been recovered.
 
 If the original disk was visible on the desktop before you ran DiskWarrior, 
 DiskWarrior will display both the original disk and the preview disk in the 
 DiskWarrior Preview Window. Both of these disks will be locked during the 
 preview, so you will not be able to make any changes to either of them. Both 
 the original disk and the preview disk will appear within the panes of the 
 DiskWarrior Preview Window.
 
 DiskWarrior may create special folders at the root level of the disk. You 
 should pay particular attention to the files and folders that DiskWarrior 
 places in these folders. The folder called “Rescued Items” contains files and 
 folders whose enclosing folder could not be found. If any of these files or 
 folders are part of a software package, you may need to create enclosing 
 folders with the correct names and locations after you have rebuilt your disk 
 so that the software that uses these files works correctly, or you may need 
 to reinstall the software package.
 
 If DiskWarrior creates a folder titled “Damaged Items,” then this folder 
 contains files that were recovered but may have problems. For instance, these 
 files may have been truncated because blocks were missing from the file, or 
 the existing directory information may have indicated that two files occupied 
 the same block. The DiskWarrior Report created after the rebuild is completed 
 will tell you if two files own the same block (refer to “What to Look for in 
 the DiskWarrior Report” later in this document). If this is the case, then 
 DiskWarrior will separate the two files for you after the directory is 
 replaced. Once the rebuild is complete, you will need to determine which of 
 these files can be salvaged and which has damaged data.
 
 At this point in the process, if you discover that there are items missing 
 from the preview disk, use the Find feature of the Preview Window to search 
 for invisible items. Make sure the preview disk is the disk selected in the 
 left pane.
 
 In the event that critical items that you wish to recover remain missing 
 during the preview, it is recommended that you do not proceed with the 
 rebuild. Since the directory information for the items that are missing was 
 overwritten or deleted at some point previously, DiskWarrior could not 
 recover these items. You will need to send your disk to a professional 
 recovery service to recover your lost files. While in preview, you should 
 copy as many items from your disk as possible to another hard disk, FireWire 
 disk, USB disk, etc., using the copy feature of the Preview Window. You may 
 need to copy the original files to several disks, depending upon the amount 
 and size of the files on the source and the size of the disks to which you 
 are copying the files. Another option is to copy only the files that you 
 absolutely need, such as those that have changed since your last backup, or 
 only your data files if you are planning to reinstall your system and 
 applications. In either case, it is possible that the Preview Window will not 
 be able to copy all of the files you select. If the Preview Window displays 
 such an error, select “Continue” to continue copying the remainder of the 
 files you selected. When the copy operation is complete, you may want to 
 attempt to copy the skipped files again in case the 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;

Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
System Preferences  Sound - Output
Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.

Cheers,
Ronni

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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I restarted 
Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then again to check 
WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all normal.  Perhaps a 
reinstalled OS X will clear it up.

Cheers
Alan


On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;
 
 Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
 System Preferences  Sound - Output
 Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronda Brown
Reset your computer's PRAM

Shut down your Mac.
Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Option, Command (⌘), P, and R. You 
will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
Turn on your Mac.
Immediately press and hold the Option-Command-P-R keys. You must press this key 
combination before the gray screen appears.
Continue holding the keys down until your Mac restarts, and you hear the 
startup sound for the second time.

Release the keys.
Resetting PRAM may change some system settings and preferences. Use System 
Preferences to restore your settings.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 24 Nov 2014, at 8:24 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I 
 restarted Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then 
 again to check WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all normal.  
 Perhaps a reinstalled OS X will clear it up.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;
 
 Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
 System Preferences  Sound - Output
 Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Reset PRAM.  Not sure of your intention.  Is is to do with fixing the Startup 
Chime?  Or general housekeeping following Disk Warrior repairs?

Later I re-installed OS X Mavericks (from OS X Utilities).  Thirty minutes 
download (via WiFi) plus 42 minutes installation.

I didn’t check functions after PRAM reset.  But some functions left problematic 
after Disk Warrior are now OK (checked after Mavericks re-installed).
 (a) Now no alert message re iTunes invalid certificate (was “iTunes can’t 
verify the identity of the server “init.itunes.apple.com”).  Now plays local 
music and connects to iTunes Store without problems 
 (b) Sudoku app loads and operates normally - previously got message that the 
app was damaged and to download a new copy.
 (c) Dropbox seems to be OK, but may not have beeen “inactive” as I thought 
yesterday.
 (d) Startup Chime:  this has worked every time today.  The “little squeak” 
noted still occurs sometimes at the very start of the chime.  I will do further 
monitoring to see if there are Chime differences depending on the shut-down 
mode.  Possibly had no start chime when I turned power off at the rear switch.

So PRAM reset plus Mavericks re-install have raised performance.  I have not 
connected the external hard drives (videos) which will put iTunes (and the 
iMac) to a real test.

Cheers
Alan 


On 24 Nov 2014, at 10:06 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Reset your computer's PRAM
 
 Shut down your Mac.
 Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Option, Command (⌘), P, and R. You 
 will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
 Turn on your Mac.
 Immediately press and hold the Option-Command-P-R keys. You must press this 
 key combination before the gray screen appears.
 Continue holding the keys down until your Mac restarts, and you hear the 
 startup sound for the second time.
 
 Release the keys.
 Resetting PRAM may change some system settings and preferences. Use System 
 Preferences to restore your settings.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 8:24 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I 
 restarted Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then 
 again to check WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all normal.  
 Perhaps a reinstalled OS X will clear it up.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;
 
 Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
 System Preferences  Sound - Output
 Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronda Brown
Hi Alan,

Yes, I wanted your to Reset the PRAM and then follow my original instructions 
of  reinstalling Mavericks. 
I thought my intentions were always clear from the start, and my instructions 
were clear - My intentions were to get your 2009 iMac working correctly again 
;-))

Don't connect the external drives until you are absolutely sure everything is 
working as it should. 
If it is, do a bootable backup, so you then have a current  backup to fall back 
on if the external drives cause problems again.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 25 Nov 2014, at 11:53 am, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Reset PRAM.  Not sure of your intention.  Is is to do with fixing the Startup 
 Chime?  Or general housekeeping following Disk Warrior repairs?
 
 Later I re-installed OS X Mavericks (from OS X Utilities).  Thirty minutes 
 download (via WiFi) plus 42 minutes installation.
 
 I didn’t check functions after PRAM reset.  But some functions left 
 problematic after Disk Warrior are now OK (checked after Mavericks 
 re-installed).
  (a) Now no alert message re iTunes invalid certificate (was “iTunes can’t 
 verify the identity of the server “init.itunes.apple.com”).  Now plays local 
 music and connects to iTunes Store without problems 
  (b) Sudoku app loads and operates normally - previously got message that the 
 app was damaged and to download a new copy.
  (c) Dropbox seems to be OK, but may not have beeen “inactive” as I thought 
 yesterday.
  (d) Startup Chime:  this has worked every time today.  The “little squeak” 
 noted still occurs sometimes at the very start of the chime.  I will do 
 further monitoring to see if there are Chime differences depending on the 
 shut-down mode.  Possibly had no start chime when I turned power off at the 
 rear switch.
 
 So PRAM reset plus Mavericks re-install have raised performance.  I have not 
 connected the external hard drives (videos) which will put iTunes (and the 
 iMac) to a real test.
 
 Cheers
 Alan 
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 10:06 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Reset your computer's PRAM
 
 Shut down your Mac.
 Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Option, Command (⌘), P, and R. 
 You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
 Turn on your Mac.
 Immediately press and hold the Option-Command-P-R keys. You must press this 
 key combination before the gray screen appears.
 Continue holding the keys down until your Mac restarts, and you hear the 
 startup sound for the second time.
 
 Release the keys.
 Resetting PRAM may change some system settings and preferences. Use System 
 Preferences to restore your settings.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 8:24 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I 
 restarted Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then 
 again to check WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all normal. 
  Perhaps a reinstalled OS X will clear it up.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;
 
 Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
 System Preferences  Sound - Output
 Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronda Brown
Another thing Alan I forgot to mention earlier.

I would not really trust the 2009 Hard Drive so keep regular bootable backups.
Also I suggest you don't Shutdown the iMac all the time like you do, just let 
it sleep.
You can put it to sleep manually when ever you want.

When you shutdown and startup your computer, the Hard Drive and other 
components get more wear and tear, and use more energy.

I recommend all Mac users to sleep their computers unless they won't be used 
for more than a few days, and all Mac users should shutdown their computers at 
least once a month to clean out all the 'junk' that collects inside the 
components.

Shutting down a computer wipes away the computer's RAM, which might have some 
corrupt/junk data left in it from various things the computer does. It also 
lets the computer's components cool down.

The best advantage of 'sleeping' is that the computer (a) goes to sleep almost 
immediately, allowing quick transport of a laptop, and no vigilance after 
'clicking shutdown'... on a desktop, and (b) wakes up almost immediately, 
allowing you to get back to work right away.

I rarely shut down my computers.

Cheers,
Ronni

Sent from Ronni's iPad4


 On 25 Nov 2014, at 1:18 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, I wanted your to Reset the PRAM and then follow my original instructions 
 of  reinstalling Mavericks. 
 I thought my intentions were always clear from the start, and my instructions 
 were clear - My intentions were to get your 2009 iMac working correctly again 
 ;-))
 
 Don't connect the external drives until you are absolutely sure everything is 
 working as it should. 
 If it is, do a bootable backup, so you then have a current  backup to fall 
 back on if the external drives cause problems again.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 25 Nov 2014, at 11:53 am, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Reset PRAM.  Not sure of your intention.  Is is to do with fixing the 
 Startup Chime?  Or general housekeeping following Disk Warrior repairs?
 
 Later I re-installed OS X Mavericks (from OS X Utilities).  Thirty minutes 
 download (via WiFi) plus 42 minutes installation.
 
 I didn’t check functions after PRAM reset.  But some functions left 
 problematic after Disk Warrior are now OK (checked after Mavericks 
 re-installed).
  (a) Now no alert message re iTunes invalid certificate (was “iTunes can’t 
 verify the identity of the server “init.itunes.apple.com”).  Now plays local 
 music and connects to iTunes Store without problems 
  (b) Sudoku app loads and operates normally - previously got message that 
 the app was damaged and to download a new copy.
  (c) Dropbox seems to be OK, but may not have beeen “inactive” as I thought 
 yesterday.
  (d) Startup Chime:  this has worked every time today.  The “little squeak” 
 noted still occurs sometimes at the very start of the chime.  I will do 
 further monitoring to see if there are Chime differences depending on the 
 shut-down mode.  Possibly had no start chime when I turned power off at the 
 rear switch.
 
 So PRAM reset plus Mavericks re-install have raised performance.  I have not 
 connected the external hard drives (videos) which will put iTunes (and the 
 iMac) to a real test.
 
 Cheers
 Alan 
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 10:06 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Reset your computer's PRAM
 
 Shut down your Mac.
 Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Option, Command (⌘), P, and R. 
 You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
 Turn on your Mac.
 Immediately press and hold the Option-Command-P-R keys. You must press this 
 key combination before the gray screen appears.
 Continue holding the keys down until your Mac restarts, and you hear the 
 startup sound for the second time.
 
 Release the keys.
 Resetting PRAM may change some system settings and preferences. Use System 
 Preferences to restore your settings.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 8:24 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I 
 restarted Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then 
 again to check WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all 
 normal.  Perhaps a reinstalled OS X will clear it up.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 4:35 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 iMac subsequently started up OK.  Some “irregularities” noted for future 
 investigation, including no startup Chime;
 
 Check your System Sound is not 'Muted' or turned down too low
 System Preferences  Sound - Output
 Output volume: Check that 'Mute' is not ticked.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Stephen Chape
Hi Ronni,
The problem I have with that is that my USB portable HD ejects if iMac is put 
to sleep.
That HD is my Time Machine Backup.

So since I replaced my large mains HD with this one about a year ago, I no 
longer sleep my iMac.
I shut down every night and re-start each morning.

 On 25 Nov 2014, at 1:45 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Another thing Alan I forgot to mention earlier.
 
 I would not really trust the 2009 Hard Drive so keep regular bootable backups.
 Also I suggest you don't Shutdown the iMac all the time like you do, just let 
 it sleep.
 You can put it to sleep manually when ever you want.
 
 When you shutdown and startup your computer, the Hard Drive and other 
 components get more wear and tear, and use more energy.
 
 I recommend all Mac users to sleep their computers unless they won't be used 
 for more than a few days, and all Mac users should shutdown their computers 
 at least once a month to clean out all the 'junk' that collects inside the 
 components.
 
 Shutting down a computer wipes away the computer's RAM, which might have some 
 corrupt/junk data left in it from various things the computer does. It also 
 lets the computer's components cool down.
 
 The best advantage of 'sleeping' is that the computer (a) goes to sleep 
 almost immediately, allowing quick transport of a laptop, and no vigilance 
 after 'clicking shutdown'... on a desktop, and (b) wakes up almost 
 immediately, allowing you to get back to work right away.
 
 I rarely shut down my computers.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 25 Nov 2014, at 1:18 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Yes, I wanted your to Reset the PRAM and then follow my original 
 instructions of  reinstalling Mavericks. 
 I thought my intentions were always clear from the start, and my 
 instructions were clear - My intentions were to get your 2009 iMac working 
 correctly again ;-))
 
 Don't connect the external drives until you are absolutely sure everything 
 is working as it should. 
 If it is, do a bootable backup, so you then have a current  backup to fall 
 back on if the external drives cause problems again.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 25 Nov 2014, at 11:53 am, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au 
 mailto:sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Reset PRAM.  Not sure of your intention.  Is is to do with fixing the 
 Startup Chime?  Or general housekeeping following Disk Warrior repairs?
 
 Later I re-installed OS X Mavericks (from OS X Utilities).  Thirty minutes 
 download (via WiFi) plus 42 minutes installation.
 
 I didn’t check functions after PRAM reset.  But some functions left 
 problematic after Disk Warrior are now OK (checked after Mavericks 
 re-installed).
  (a) Now no alert message re iTunes invalid certificate (was “iTunes can’t 
 verify the identity of the server “init.itunes.apple.com 
 http://init.itunes.apple.com/”).  Now plays local music and connects to 
 iTunes Store without problems 
  (b) Sudoku app loads and operates normally - previously got message that 
 the app was damaged and to download a new copy.
  (c) Dropbox seems to be OK, but may not have beeen “inactive” as I thought 
 yesterday.
  (d) Startup Chime:  this has worked every time today.  The “little squeak” 
 noted still occurs sometimes at the very start of the chime.  I will do 
 further monitoring to see if there are Chime differences depending on the 
 shut-down mode.  Possibly had no start chime when I turned power off at the 
 rear switch.
 
 So PRAM reset plus Mavericks re-install have raised performance.  I have 
 not connected the external hard drives (videos) which will put iTunes (and 
 the iMac) to a real test.
 
 Cheers
 Alan 
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 10:06 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Reset your computer's PRAM
 
 Shut down your Mac.
 Locate the following keys on the keyboard: Option, Command (⌘), P, and R. 
 You will need to hold these keys down simultaneously in step 4.
 Turn on your Mac.
 Immediately press and hold the Option-Command-P-R keys. You must press 
 this key combination before the gray screen appears.
 Continue holding the keys down until your Mac restarts, and you hear the 
 startup sound for the second time.
 
 Release the keys.
 Resetting PRAM may change some system settings and preferences. Use System 
 Preferences to restore your settings.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 Sent from Ronni's iPad4
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 8:24 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au 
 mailto:sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Absence of the startup chime is intermittent.  Chime worked OK when I 
 restarted Mac to confirm I still had access to the Recovery Disk and then 
 again to check WiFi signal strength.  System sound settings are all 
 normal.  Perhaps a reinstalled OS X will clear it up.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 7:44 pm, Ronda Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Hi Alan,
 On 24 Nov 2014, 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-24 Thread Ronda Brown

 On 25 Nov 2014, at 2:08 pm, Stephen Chape chap...@bigpond.com wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 The problem I have with that is that my USB portable HD ejects if iMac is put 
 to sleep.

That is the fault of the USB portable HD not the iMac going to sleep.
The USB Drive is not entering 'standby mode' when the iMac is placed in sleep.

 That HD is my Time Machine Backup.
Time Machine won't do a backup while the iMac is sleeping.
 
 So since I replaced my large mains HD with this one about a year ago, I no 
 longer sleep my iMac.
 I shut down every night and re-start each morning.

That is your choice, which is fine.
But it really doesn't have anything to do with Alan's issue with a 'suspect' HD.

Cheers,
Ronni
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-23 Thread Ronni Brown
Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:

Hi Alan,

Did you drag the DW 4.3 Application from Utilities into the Trash and empty the 
trash  restart your Mac before trying to install v.4.4?

Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:

1) Open the 'DiskWarrior.dmg' file you received via download. This will cause 
the disk image named 'DiskWarrior' to appear on your desktop.

2)  Drag to the trash any existing copy of DiskWarrior you have installed. You 
may need to restart in order to empty the trash.

3) Select the DiskWarrior icon (the icon is a drive with a knight's helmet) 
found in the upper left corner of the disk image window and drag it to your 
hard disk. Alsoft recommends that DiskWarrior reside in the Utilities folder 
within the Applications folder.

4) To run DiskWarrior from your hard disk, simply double-click the DiskWarrior 
icon. 
In order to run DiskWarrior, you must be started from Mac OS X 10.3.9 or later.

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage


 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:04 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Any Disk Warrior users in Wamug?
 
 I have Disk Warrior 4.3 on disk and as a soft copy on a good iMac in 
 Utilities.  The internal HD on my 2009 iMac is faulty.   I intended to do a 
 disk repair with Disk Warrior using Firewire and Target Mode.  Both Macs have 
 Mavericks 10.9.5 installed.I downloaded the update for DW ver 4.4 but 
 cannot install it. 
 
 I attempted to use DW 4.3 but received the message “Directory cannot be 
 rebuilt.  Disk is a newer version than Disk Warrior”.  Not unexpected, so 
 back to trying to get 4.4 working.
 
 The general message on opening the .dmg file states: To install update need -
 (1) original DW disk
 (2) admin privileges
 (3) 3.5 GB disk space
 (4) a blank CD-R or DVD-R.
 
 I opted to “continue” and the install process got to accepting licence 
 agreement then the message “No recordable devices were found.  You may 
 connect one via Firewire or USB and press Rescan, or quit.
 
 I inserted a 16GB thumb drive but no change to the messages.  I reformatted 
 thumb drive to Mac OS extended (journaled) and with GUID partition table.  
 Still no progress.  Tried again with DW 4.3 copied to the USB drive.  Still 
 no progress.  Bought a new 1TB USB 3 hard drive and formatted it as above.  
 Still no progress.
 
 Found that information on the Alsoft (DW) website is confusing and the FAQs 
 are Dorothy Dixers.
 
 The Update page includes the following information:
 Uses your original 4.0-4.3 disc to create a new startup disc containing 
 DiskWarrior 4 version 4.4. The new disc will only start up the same Mac 
 models as the original disc.”   The last sentence is alarming.  Does it mean 
 Mac OS version? 
 
 Any advice on how to install the update?
 
 Regards, 
 Alan
 
 Alan Smith
  Late 2012 iMac 27 Intel Quad Core i5  Fusion 3.2GHz 8G RAM - OSX 10.9.5 
 Mavericks
  Late 2009 iMac 21.5 Intel Core 2 Duo 3.06GHz 12G RAM - OSX 10.9.5 Mavericks
 
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Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-23 Thread Alan Smith
Hi Ronni

Your instructions are for Installing the DiskWarrior received via download 
purchase.  They do not seem to apply to me.  But I did follow the steps re 
trashing and restarting, with no benefit.

Alsoft sell a new DiskWarrior for $100 or an “Upgrade” for $50.  I understand 
the software can be downloaded and with a CD/DVD mailed out with a 3-4 weeks 
wait.  I did not purchase either of these marketing variants.

Alsoft also provide a free Update with no hard CD provided.  Serial number of 
the original version must be (and was) provided.  A 2.5MB .dmg file was 
downloaded to my “downloads” folder.   I assumed the Update version is just the 
same as the Upgrade, but without a hard copy.

I think Alsoft are playing games with semantics.  “Update” must refer to DW 
software, NOT to a different Apple OS.

The fine print in the Read Me file may explain it:

The DiskWarrior 4.4 Disc Update

Please Read This First

This free updater application allows you to create a new startup disk (CD/DVD) 
with the latest version of DiskWarrior using your original (factory) 
DiskWarrior 4.0 to 4.3 disc. You can use your updated disc just as you used 
your original disc to start up your Mac.

Please note that your new DiskWarrior disc will contain the latest version of 
DiskWarrior, but will still contain the same version of Mac OS X as your 
original DiskWarrior disc. Alsoft cannot update the version of Mac OS X on your 
disc with this updater application. This means that the disc created by this 
updater will not be able to start up any Macs that your original DiskWarrior 
disc is unable to start up. If you have purchased a new Mac that requires a 
later version of Mac OS X than the copy of Mac OS X on your original 
DiskWarrior disc, you'll need to purchase an update disc from Alsoft.

What if I have a new Macintosh that my current DiskWarrior 4 disc will not 
start?

You should order a new DiskWarrior disc containing a later version of Mac OS X. 
You can contact our Customer Service department by calling 1-800-257-6381 or 
281-353-4090.

In any case, I think the Update has failed - at least it should have  updated 
the DW software for the old Snow Leopard utility.

Cheers
Alan
 
On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:50 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com wrote:

 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Did you drag the DW 4.3 Application from Utilities into the Trash and empty 
 the trash  restart your Mac before trying to install v.4.4?
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 1) Open the 'DiskWarrior.dmg' file you received via download. This will cause 
 the disk image named 'DiskWarrior' to appear on your desktop.
 
 2)  Drag to the trash any existing copy of DiskWarrior you have installed. 
 You may need to restart in order to empty the trash.
 
 3) Select the DiskWarrior icon (the icon is a drive with a knight's helmet) 
 found in the upper left corner of the disk image window and drag it to your 
 hard disk. Alsoft recommends that DiskWarrior reside in the Utilities folder 
 within the Applications folder.
 
 4) To run DiskWarrior from your hard disk, simply double-click the 
 DiskWarrior icon. 
 In order to run DiskWarrior, you must be started from Mac OS X 10.3.9 or 
 later.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:04 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Any Disk Warrior users in Wamug?
 
 I have Disk Warrior 4.3 on disk and as a soft copy on a good iMac in 
 Utilities.  The internal HD on my 2009 iMac is faulty.   I intended to do a 
 disk repair with Disk Warrior using Firewire and Target Mode.  Both Macs 
 have Mavericks 10.9.5 installed.I downloaded the update for DW ver 4.4 
 but cannot install it. 
 
 I attempted to use DW 4.3 but received the message “Directory cannot be 
 rebuilt.  Disk is a newer version than Disk Warrior”.  Not unexpected, so 
 back to trying to get 4.4 working.
 
 The general message on opening the .dmg file states: To install update need -
 (1) original DW disk
 (2) admin privileges
 (3) 3.5 GB disk space
 (4) a blank CD-R or DVD-R.
 
 I opted to “continue” and the install process got to accepting licence 
 agreement then the message “No recordable devices were found.  You may 
 connect one via Firewire or USB and press Rescan, or quit.
 
 I inserted a 16GB thumb drive but no change to the messages.  I reformatted 
 thumb drive to Mac OS extended (journaled) and with GUID partition table.  
 Still no progress.  Tried again with DW 4.3 copied to the USB drive.  Still 
 no progress.  Bought a new 1TB USB 3 hard drive and formatted it as above.  
 Still no progress.
 
 Found that information on the Alsoft (DW) website is confusing and the FAQs 
 are Dorothy Dixers.
 
 The Update page includes the following information:
 Uses your original 4.0-4.3 disc to create a new startup 

Re: Disk Warrior Update Problems

2014-11-23 Thread Ronni Brown
Alan I've sent you an email offlist  Let me know if you want me to send the 
DiskWarrior.app v 4.4 to you please.

Ronni

 On 24 Nov 2014, at 2:28 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni
 
 Your instructions are for Installing the DiskWarrior received via download 
 purchase.  They do not seem to apply to me.  But I did follow the steps re 
 trashing and restarting, with no benefit.
 
 Alsoft sell a new DiskWarrior for $100 or an “Upgrade” for $50.  I understand 
 the software can be downloaded and with a CD/DVD mailed out with a 3-4 weeks 
 wait.  I did not purchase either of these marketing variants.
 
 Alsoft also provide a free Update with no hard CD provided.  Serial number of 
 the original version must be (and was) provided.  A 2.5MB .dmg file was 
 downloaded to my “downloads” folder.   I assumed the Update version is just 
 the same as the Upgrade, but without a hard copy.
 
 I think Alsoft are playing games with semantics.  “Update” must refer to DW 
 software, NOT to a different Apple OS.
 
 The fine print in the Read Me file may explain it:
 
 The DiskWarrior 4.4 Disc Update
 
 Please Read This First
 
 This free updater application allows you to create a new startup disk 
 (CD/DVD) with the latest version of DiskWarrior using your original (factory) 
 DiskWarrior 4.0 to 4.3 disc. You can use your updated disc just as you used 
 your original disc to start up your Mac.
 
 Please note that your new DiskWarrior disc will contain the latest version of 
 DiskWarrior, but will still contain the same version of Mac OS X as your 
 original DiskWarrior disc. Alsoft cannot update the version of Mac OS X on 
 your disc with this updater application. This means that the disc created by 
 this updater will not be able to start up any Macs that your original 
 DiskWarrior disc is unable to start up. If you have purchased a new Mac that 
 requires a later version of Mac OS X than the copy of Mac OS X on your 
 original DiskWarrior disc, you'll need to purchase an update disc from Alsoft.
 
 What if I have a new Macintosh that my current DiskWarrior 4 disc will not 
 start?
 
 You should order a new DiskWarrior disc containing a later version of Mac OS 
 X. You can contact our Customer Service department by calling 1-800-257-6381 
 or 281-353-4090.
 
 In any case, I think the Update has failed - at least it should have  updated 
 the DW software for the old Snow Leopard utility.
 
 Cheers
 Alan
  
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:50 pm, Ronni Brown ro...@mac.com 
 mailto:ro...@mac.com wrote:
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 Hi Alan,
 
 Did you drag the DW 4.3 Application from Utilities into the Trash and empty 
 the trash  restart your Mac before trying to install v.4.4?
 
 Installing the DiskWarrior you received via download purchase:
 
 1) Open the 'DiskWarrior.dmg' file you received via download. This will 
 cause the disk image named 'DiskWarrior' to appear on your desktop.
 
 2)  Drag to the trash any existing copy of DiskWarrior you have installed. 
 You may need to restart in order to empty the trash.
 
 3) Select the DiskWarrior icon (the icon is a drive with a knight's helmet) 
 found in the upper left corner of the disk image window and drag it to your 
 hard disk. Alsoft recommends that DiskWarrior reside in the Utilities folder 
 within the Applications folder.
 
 4) To run DiskWarrior from your hard disk, simply double-click the 
 DiskWarrior icon. 
 In order to run DiskWarrior, you must be started from Mac OS X 10.3.9 or 
 later.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
 
 
 On 24 Nov 2014, at 12:04 pm, Alan Smith sma...@iinet.net.au 
 mailto:sma...@iinet.net.au wrote:
 
 Any Disk Warrior users in Wamug?
 
 I have Disk Warrior 4.3 on disk and as a soft copy on a good iMac in 
 Utilities.  The internal HD on my 2009 iMac is faulty.   I intended to do a 
 disk repair with Disk Warrior using Firewire and Target Mode.  Both Macs 
 have Mavericks 10.9.5 installed.I downloaded the update for DW ver 4.4 
 but cannot install it. 
 
 I attempted to use DW 4.3 but received the message “Directory cannot be 
 rebuilt.  Disk is a newer version than Disk Warrior”.  Not unexpected, so 
 back to trying to get 4.4 working.
 
 The general message on opening the .dmg file states: To install update need 
 -
 (1) original DW disk
 (2) admin privileges
 (3) 3.5 GB disk space
 (4) a blank CD-R or DVD-R.
 
 I opted to “continue” and the install process got to accepting licence 
 agreement then the message “No recordable devices were found.  You may 
 connect one via Firewire or USB and press Rescan, or quit.
 
 I inserted a 16GB thumb drive but no change to the messages.  I reformatted 
 thumb drive to Mac OS extended (journaled) and with GUID partition table.  
 Still no progress.  Tried again with DW 4.3 copied to the USB drive.  Still 
 no