Re: G5's approved

2003-07-31 Thread Mark Secker
Ha it's only $23,512.01 inc GST unless you include the iPod... 
think you could sneak that one past the purchasing officer eh?


strage that the Airport extreme and blue tooth are both optional 
extras as is a better graphics card one would think this fruit 
would be standard on a top of the line like buying a Rolls Royce 
and being told the leather seats walnut trim will cost you extra.





Hi...

I notice that the Apple Store no longer lists the G5's as pending
regulatory approval.

Now all I need is the $24,000 for the maxed out G5 system :)

Have fun,
Shay
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Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Secker




Does anyone know if these G5's will be out before September???
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yes, I'm sure some people know if these will (or won't) be out by 
September... BUT they're not telling us, yet.


;)

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer 
better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I 
purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new 
PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17 Powerbook would have 
been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would 
have had 3 months of down time.



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Griffin

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Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread Greg Hosking

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


i'd have to agree with this. i remember 2 years ago there was the 
promise of the first firewire multichannel audio interfaces coming out, 
i was thinking of waiting for such beasts, but decided to go for a PCI 
solution that was working  proven at the time. It took over a year for 
the firewire models to come out on full production. SO glad i didn't 
wait... for a YEAR!


g



Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread Matt Huitson
The only caveat to this discussion would be impending announcements 
from the horse's mouth itself - and with Apple's WWDC just 5 days away 
I'd be postponing any hardware purchases till I heard what Steve puts 
on the table at San Francisco.


Regards,
Matt.


On Wednesday, June 18, 2003, at 10:15 AM, Greg Hosking wrote:


If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


i'd have to agree with this. i remember 2 years ago there was the
promise of the first firewire multichannel audio interfaces coming out,
i was thinking of waiting for such beasts, but decided to go for a PCI
solution that was working  proven at the time. It took over a year for
the firewire models to come out on full production. SO glad i didn't
wait... for a YEAR!

g


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Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread Martin Hill

At 10:05 AM +0800 18/6/03, Mark Secker wrote:

If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer


I agree with this, but would think in this case it would be prudent 
to wait for the WWDC keynote on the 23rd *just in case* Steve sheds 
more light on the subject with shipping dates etc.


A 5 day wait is reasonable considering the high probability that 
he'll say something. If at that point he still doesn't announce 
specific dates and products and you need a new system now, then 
absolutely go ahead and buy now! Otherwise, as others has stressed, 
you will always be waiting for the Next Big Thing.


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Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread DJ Grafix Design
on 18/6/03 10:05, Mark Secker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer
 better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I
 purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new
 PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17 Powerbook would have
 been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would
 have had 3 months of down time.

Normally I completely agree with this logic. In this case though there are a
couple of things that are very important that need to be taken into
consideration. 

The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
kick the snot outta the current G4's.

The redesigned motherboard and memory architecture of the new motherboards.
If I were looking at purchasing a new machine I could certainly wait a few
extra months for a redesigned motherboard with a much faster frontside bus
than is currently available on any Mac.

While waiting for the Holy Grail when it comes to computers is a losing game
I do believe that there are times where it makes sense to wait for a bit. I
believe this is one of those times.



Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread Mark Secker


The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
kick the snot outta the current G4's.


BUT it won't do it while you don't have it on your desk..

horses for courses of course but if your old computer doesn't make 
the grade NOW (defunct, won't run needed software, etc) then it's not 
going to put much bread on the table NOW compared to a new, current 
model.
However much a vapourware processor may promise you in rich rewards 
in some far flung future place it's only good if'n'if you/your 
business can survive that long.


Anyway hands up anyone who's going to by a first release G5 
anyway?... early birds get the worms.. and the bugs ...and the 
product recalls ...and the premium prices


Of course for those of us in mobile computing environments 
(PowerBook users) will probably not see the G5 (or what ever comes 
after the G4) until some very long months later once battery  
cooling tech/design issues are sorted and Apple have first milked the 
early adopters in the premium priced desktop market dry.


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Re: G5's

2003-06-18 Thread ECU Account
Thank you DJ Grafix  Design for your informative email; just the info I was
looking for. As you can see from all the responses to my email, (ranging in
usefulness) there is always something better around the corner. But if
someone like myself are going to get a new machine (and presumably not
another one for a LONG time) then it is logical to gather as much info as
possible before purchasing anything.

Cheers, Robbie.
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Griffin 
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http://users.indigo.net.au/robbie/tonepoet/


 From: DJ Grafix  Design [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2003 12:26:17 +0800
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: G5's
 
 on 18/6/03 10:05, Mark Secker at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 If you wait for the next new thing you'll never ever buy a computer
 better to buy the next best thing rather than THE NEXT BEST thing. I
 purchased my PB G4 knowing that there was big news about a new
 PowerBook less thatn 3 months away. Now a 17 Powerbook would have
 been nice and I would have got it had I waited I know that I would
 have had 3 months of down time.
 
 Normally I completely agree with this logic. In this case though there are a
 couple of things that are very important that need to be taken into
 consideration. 
 
 The PPC970 (aka G5 in Applespeak) is a 64 bit CPU. That's huge for several
 reasons that are long and detailed but basically (with the right OS) it'll
 kick the snot outta the current G4's.
 
 The redesigned motherboard and memory architecture of the new motherboards.
 If I were looking at purchasing a new machine I could certainly wait a few
 extra months for a redesigned motherboard with a much faster frontside bus
 than is currently available on any Mac.
 
 While waiting for the Holy Grail when it comes to computers is a losing game
 I do believe that there are times where it makes sense to wait for a bit.I
 believe this is one of those times.
 
 
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Re: G5's

2003-06-17 Thread Onno Benschop
On Tue, 2003-06-17 at 13:49, ECU Account wrote:
 Does anyone know if these G5's will be out before September???

Which G5's would that be, the ones that the rumour-mill is talking
about? In that case, did you know that there's a rumour that Apple will
sell all its stock to IBM, to strengthen it's defence against SCO who
now claims that it owns all operating systems.

Also, did you hear about the new iBooks, they are going to come out with
1Gb of RAM and a 100Gb HDD, all for $1499 (although that's US pricing,
so we won't know what it will really be here in Oz).

I've also heard from a reliable source that the iPod is going to be
discontinued, because the iStore is doing much better business and it
costs less to make money serving songs in an electronic store than
actually designing, building and distributing hardware.

Finally, for those humour-impaired viewers, all I'm saying is that you
shouldn't believe anything until it comes from the horses' mouth and
even less that you hear on xyz.com.

So, do I know anything - nope.

Onno Benschop 

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