Re: running out of space

[FW]

Hi Ronni,

Yes I have done that (lots of language files in trash) cleared trash can and 
restarted and now there is
a difference before/after almost 2GB.

Thanks again,

Cheers
Walter

> On 3 Apr 2018, at 21:15 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> After you set the Preference to ‘Move language files to Trash’.
> Check what free/available space is on your Hard Drive by selecting the Hard 
> Drive icon at top right on Desktop and then ‘Get Info’ take note of the 
> ‘available free space’.
> 
> Then when you ran Monolingual again... after it completed were there any 
> language files in your Trash?
> There should have been and you need to delete the trash and you should then 
> notice in Finder ‘Get Info’ on your Hard Drive would show there is more 
> available space.
> 
> I mentioned below why I think Monolingual is having issues with the ‘Helper 
> Tool’.
> 
> Restart you Mac and Run Monolingual again.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 6:33 pm, FW  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> Yes I did read the “Read me”. There was much information about the previous 
>> versions etc.
>> I can’t remember seeing anything about “Move language files to trash”. And 
>> it did of course
>> talk about selecting files to be removed - which were already selected.
>> However, before attempting the second run I went into preferences and did 
>> set move files to trash. Did not select automatic updates. But the result 
>> was the same - the 1byte removed response.
>> So does it mean that Monolingual won’t give you a second chance ?
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni.
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Walter
>> 
>> 
>>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:09 , Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Walter,
>>> 
>>> Did you read the document “MONOLINGUAL 1.8.0 Read me” that came with 
>>> Monolingual installation? 
>>> Monolingual should NOT be used unless you first read everything about it, 
>>> as used incorrectly it can do serious damage to the operating system.
>>> 
>>> Did you set any of the Preferences in Monolingual > Preferences?
>>> Move Language Files to Trash?
>>> Automatically check for Updates?
>>> Monolingual Architectures?
>>> 
>>> On my MBA with keeping only English languages -English, English 
>>> (Australia), English (UK), English (US). My Trash had many 100’s of 
>>> language files in it. After I emptied the Trash -I gained approx. 1.3GB of 
>>> free Hard Drive space.
>>> 
>>> Pro Tip: Make sure that all English languages are deselected (including UK, 
>>> Australia, Canada, etc.). No matter which language you use natively on your 
>>> Mac, keep the English-based languages or you may risk having an incomplete 
>>> OS X installation.
>>> 
>>> Pro Tip: If you use Adobe programs, manually de-select their directories 
>>> from the removal process.
>>> ==
>>> A bit of information in case you don’t understand System Integrity 
>>> Protection (SIP)
>>> System Integrity Protection (SIP) is a security technology in OS X El 
>>> Capitan and later that's designed to help prevent potentially malicious 
>>> software from modifying protected files and folders on your Mac. 
>>> System Integrity Protection restricts the root user account and limits the 
>>> actions that the root user can perform on protected parts of the Mac 
>>> operating system.
>>> You can read all parts of the system SIP protects at this Apple support 
>>> link: 
>>> 
>>> One part System Integrity Protection includes protection for is /System 
>>> I am thinking this ‘might’ be why Monolingual is having ‘issues’ with the 
>>> ‘Helper Tool’.
>>> 
>>> I’ve looked at the Monolingual Logs on my MBA after I’ve completed 
>>> ‘removing unneeded language localization files’ and it does show hundreds 
>>> of language “lproj” Trashed files.
>>> 
>>> Your Monolingual Log file can be located at ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>>> 
>>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>>> 
 On 30 Mar 2018, at 1:07 pm, FW  wrote:
 
 Hi Ronni,
 
 I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
 recordings that had already been
 exported into iTunes.
 With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
 I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only 
 English and some euro languages I
 left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then 
 the following message was
 displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
 I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still 
 listed with the ticks in place.
 When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages 
 after clicking on the + to add
 more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for 
 a

Re: running out of space

[Ronda Brown]

After you set the Preference to ‘Move language files to Trash’.
Check what free/available space is on your Hard Drive by selecting the Hard 
Drive icon at top right on Desktop and then ‘Get Info’ take note of the 
‘available free space’.

Then when you ran Monolingual again... after it completed were there any 
language files in your Trash?
There should have been and you need to delete the trash and you should then 
notice in Finder ‘Get Info’ on your Hard Drive would show there is more 
available space.

I mentioned below why I think Monolingual is having issues with the ‘Helper 
Tool’.

Restart you Mac and Run Monolingual again.

Cheers,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 3 Apr 2018, at 6:33 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 
> Yes I did read the “Read me”. There was much information about the previous 
> versions etc.
> I can’t remember seeing anything about “Move language files to trash”. And it 
> did of course
> talk about selecting files to be removed - which were already selected.
> However, before attempting the second run I went into preferences and did set 
> move files to trash. Did not select automatic updates. But the result was the 
> same - the 1byte removed response.
> So does it mean that Monolingual won’t give you a second chance ?
> 
> Thanks Ronni.
> 
> Cheers
> Walter
> 
> 
>> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:09 , Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Walter,
>> 
>> Did you read the document “MONOLINGUAL 1.8.0 Read me” that came with 
>> Monolingual installation? 
>> Monolingual should NOT be used unless you first read everything about it, as 
>> used incorrectly it can do serious damage to the operating system.
>> 
>> Did you set any of the Preferences in Monolingual > Preferences?
>> Move Language Files to Trash?
>> Automatically check for Updates?
>> Monolingual Architectures?
>> 
>> On my MBA with keeping only English languages -English, English (Australia), 
>> English (UK), English (US). My Trash had many 100’s of language files in it. 
>> After I emptied the Trash -I gained approx. 1.3GB of free Hard Drive space.
>> 
>> Pro Tip: Make sure that all English languages are deselected (including UK, 
>> Australia, Canada, etc.). No matter which language you use natively on your 
>> Mac, keep the English-based languages or you may risk having an incomplete 
>> OS X installation.
>> 
>> Pro Tip: If you use Adobe programs, manually de-select their directories 
>> from the removal process.
>> ==
>> A bit of information in case you don’t understand System Integrity 
>> Protection (SIP)
>> System Integrity Protection (SIP) is a security technology in OS X El 
>> Capitan and later that's designed to help prevent potentially malicious 
>> software from modifying protected files and folders on your Mac. 
>> System Integrity Protection restricts the root user account and limits the 
>> actions that the root user can perform on protected parts of the Mac 
>> operating system.
>> You can read all parts of the system SIP protects at this Apple support 
>> link: 
>> 
>> One part System Integrity Protection includes protection for is /System 
>> I am thinking this ‘might’ be why Monolingual is having ‘issues’ with the 
>> ‘Helper Tool’.
>> 
>> I’ve looked at the Monolingual Logs on my MBA after I’ve completed ‘removing 
>> unneeded language localization files’ and it does show hundreds of language 
>> “lproj” Trashed files.
>> 
>> Your Monolingual Log file can be located at ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
>> 
>> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
>> 
>>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 1:07 pm, FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> 
>>> I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
>>> recordings that had already been
>>> exported into iTunes.
>>> With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
>>> I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only 
>>> English and some euro languages I
>>> left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then 
>>> the following message was
>>> displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
>>> I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still 
>>> listed with the ticks in place.
>>> When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages 
>>> after clicking on the + to add
>>> more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for 
>>> available languages ?
>>> 
>>> Confused again
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Walter
>>> 
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 20:40 , FW  wrote:
 
 Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will 
 attend to your other suggestions
 on w/end.
 
 Thanks and happy easter.
 
 Walter
 **
 
> On 27 Mar 20

Re: running out of space

[FW]

Hi Ronni,

Yes I did read the “Read me”. There was much information about the previous 
versions etc.
I can’t remember seeing anything about “Move language files to trash”. And it 
did of course
talk about selecting files to be removed - which were already selected.
However, before attempting the second run I went into preferences and did set 
move files to trash. Did not select automatic updates. But the result was the 
same - the 1byte removed response.
So does it mean that Monolingual won’t give you a second chance ?

Thanks Ronni.

Cheers
Walter
 

> On 3 Apr 2018, at 18:09 , Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> Did you read the document “MONOLINGUAL 1.8.0 Read me” that came with 
> Monolingual installation? 
> Monolingual should NOT be used unless you first read everything about it, as 
> used incorrectly it can do serious damage to the operating system.
> 
> Did you set any of the Preferences in Monolingual > Preferences?
> Move Language Files to Trash?
> Automatically check for Updates?
> Monolingual Architectures?
> 
> On my MBA with keeping only English languages -English, English (Australia), 
> English (UK), English (US). My Trash had many 100’s of language files in it. 
> After I emptied the Trash -I gained approx. 1.3GB of free Hard Drive space.
> 
> Pro Tip: Make sure that all English languages are deselected (including UK, 
> Australia, Canada, etc.). No matter which language you use natively on your 
> Mac, keep the English-based languages or you may risk having an incomplete OS 
> X installation.
> 
> Pro Tip: If you use Adobe programs, manually de-select their directories from 
> the removal process.
> ==
> A bit of information in case you don’t understand System Integrity Protection 
> (SIP)
> System Integrity Protection (SIP) is a security technology in OS X El Capitan 
> and later that's designed to help prevent potentially malicious software from 
> modifying protected files and folders on your Mac. 
> System Integrity Protection restricts the root user account and limits the 
> actions that the root user can perform on protected parts of the Mac 
> operating system.
> You can read all parts of the system SIP protects at this Apple support link: 
> 
> 
> One part System Integrity Protection includes protection for is /System 
> I am thinking this ‘might’ be why Monolingual is having ‘issues’ with the 
> ‘Helper Tool’.
> 
> I’ve looked at the Monolingual Logs on my MBA after I’ve completed ‘removing 
> unneeded language localization files’ and it does show hundreds of language 
> “lproj” Trashed files.
> 
> Your Monolingual Log file can be located at ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage
> 
> macOS High Sierra 10.13.4
> 
>> On 30 Mar 2018, at 1:07 pm, FW  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> 
>> I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
>> recordings that had already been
>> exported into iTunes.
>> With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
>> I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only 
>> English and some euro languages I
>> left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then 
>> the following message was
>> displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
>> I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still listed 
>> with the ticks in place.
>> When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages 
>> after clicking on the + to add
>> more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for 
>> available languages ?
>> 
>> Confused again
>> 
>> Cheers
>> Walter
>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 20:40 , FW  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will 
>>> attend to your other suggestions
>>> on w/end.
>>> 
>>> Thanks and happy easter.
>>> 
>>> Walter
>>> **
>>> 
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
 
 Hi Walter,
 
 I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my Macs 
 and not running them from an External Drive.
 But some people do so successfully.
 
 The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER 
 recommend any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 15% 
 available space.
 I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
 Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run well 
 and fast.
 ‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)
 
 So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
 The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB 
 extra.
 I would then run WhatSize app to give you details 

Re: running out of space

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Walter,

Did you read the document “MONOLINGUAL 1.8.0 Read me” that came with 
Monolingual installation? 
Monolingual should NOT be used unless you first read everything about it, as 
used incorrectly it can do serious damage to the operating system.

Did you set any of the Preferences in Monolingual > Preferences?
Move Language Files to Trash?
Automatically check for Updates?
Monolingual Architectures?

On my MBA with keeping only English languages -English, English (Australia), 
English (UK), English (US). My Trash had many 100’s of language files in it. 
After I emptied the Trash -I gained approx. 1.3GB of free Hard Drive space.

Pro Tip: Make sure that all English languages are deselected (including UK, 
Australia, Canada, etc.). No matter which language you use natively on your 
Mac, keep the English-based languages or you may risk having an incomplete OS X 
installation.

Pro Tip: If you use Adobe programs, manually de-select their directories from 
the removal process.
==
A bit of information in case you don’t understand System Integrity Protection 
(SIP)
System Integrity Protection (SIP) is a security technology in OS X El Capitan 
and later that's designed to help prevent potentially malicious software from 
modifying protected files and folders on your Mac. 
System Integrity Protection restricts the root user account 
 and limits the actions that the root 
user can perform on protected parts of the Mac operating system.
You can read all parts of the system SIP protects at this Apple support link: 
>

One part System Integrity Protection includes protection for is /System 
I am thinking this ‘might’ be why Monolingual is having ‘issues’ with the 
‘Helper Tool’.

I’ve looked at the Monolingual Logs on my MBA after I’ve completed ‘removing 
unneeded language localization files’ and it does show hundreds of language 
“lproj” Trashed files.

Your Monolingual Log file can be located at ~/Library/Logs/Monolingual.log

Cheers,
Ronni

13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014)
1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz
8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM
512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage

macOS High Sierra 10.13.4

> On 30 Mar 2018, at 1:07 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 
> I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
> recordings that had already been
> exported into iTunes.
> With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
> I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only 
> English and some euro languages I
> left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then 
> the following message was
> displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
> I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still listed 
> with the ticks in place.
> When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages 
> after clicking on the + to add
> more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for 
> available languages ?
> 
> Confused again
> 
> Cheers
> Walter
> 
>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 20:40 , FW  wrote:
>> 
>> Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will 
>> attend to your other suggestions
>> on w/end.
>> 
>> Thanks and happy easter.
>> 
>> Walter
>> **
>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Walter,
>>> 
>>> I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my Macs 
>>> and not running them from an External Drive.
>>> But some people do so successfully.
>>> 
>>> The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER 
>>> recommend any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 15% 
>>> available space.
>>> I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
>>> Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run well 
>>> and fast.
>>> ‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)
>>> 
>>> So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
>>> The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB extra.
>>> I would then run WhatSize app to give you details of where the used is 
>>> being used.
>>> It’s a good starting point.
>>> 
>>> Uninstall old applications you haven’t used & never will again, archive 
>>> mail attachments & years old mail. Make sure the Trash is empty, the 
>>> Download Folder is empty.
>>> Only the HD and ‘One’ folder on the Desktop. ‘That One Folder’ on the 
>>> Desktop can have other folders inside it if required.
>>> There are lots of items that need regularly cleaned up & ‘culled’.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 5:19 pm, FW  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Ronni,
 I have a question on the same subject.
 My HD on the 2009 iMac is 1TB and available 

Re: running out of space

[FW]

Hi Ronni,

I followed your advice and now have available 243GB. I even deleted EyeTV 
recordings that had already been
exported into iTunes.
With the Monolingual I am not sure if it has really done the job ?
I was under the impression that the ticked files would be removed. Only English 
and some euro languages I
left unticked. After clicking the Remove button it took some time and then the 
following message was
displayed: “Space saved: 1 byte”
I closed Monolingual and opened it again and all the files were still listed 
with the ticks in place.
When I open System Preferences >Language & Region I can see the languages after 
clicking on the + to add
more to the “Preferred languages” Is this a valid way of checking for available 
languages ?

Confused again

Cheers
Walter

> On 27 Mar 2018, at 20:40 , FW  wrote:
> 
> Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will attend 
> to your other suggestions
> on w/end.
> 
> Thanks and happy easter.
> 
> Walter
> **
> 
>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Walter,
>> 
>> I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my Macs 
>> and not running them from an External Drive.
>> But some people do so successfully.
>> 
>> The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER 
>> recommend any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 15% 
>> available space.
>> I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
>> Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run well 
>> and fast.
>> ‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)
>> 
>> So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
>> The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB extra.
>> I would then run WhatSize app to give you details of where the used is being 
>> used.
>> It’s a good starting point.
>> 
>> Uninstall old applications you haven’t used & never will again, archive mail 
>> attachments & years old mail. Make sure the Trash is empty, the Download 
>> Folder is empty.
>> Only the HD and ‘One’ folder on the Desktop. ‘That One Folder’ on the 
>> Desktop can have other folders inside it if required.
>> There are lots of items that need regularly cleaned up & ‘culled’.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 5:19 pm, FW  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> I have a question on the same subject.
>>> My HD on the 2009 iMac is 1TB and available now is 157GB.
>>> Enough ? Or should I look at moving iTunes files or iPhoto files to an 
>>> ext/HD ?
>>> 
>>> I am also now looking at the language file situation.
>>> 
>>> Thanks
>>> Walter
>>> 
 
 
 
 
 Hi Rosemary,
 15.2GB is nowhere near enough available space. Are you running High Sierra?
 You need to free up space ASAP, or you will be having problems.
 
 Do you have WhatSize.app version 6.6.3 (which is compatible with High 
 Sierra)?
 If not you can download it from this link: https://whatsizemac.com/
 WhatSize will show you what is taking up the space on your MBP Hard Drive.
 
 Also did you remove unneeded language localization files on your MBP.
 I always remove the unneeded language localization files from my Macs.
 I only keep All the English - English (Australia), English (United 
 Kingdom), English (United States).
 If you only ever use English, there is no need to have all the other 
 language files taking up valuable GBs of space.
 I use Monolingual 1.8.0 to remove the thousand of unneeded language 
 localization files.
 You can check it out at this link: 
 https://ingmarstein.github.io/Monolingual/
 
 Run WhatSize 6.6.3 to show you details of the space use.
 
 Cheers,
 Ronni
 
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 3:58 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
 
> Hi Ronni,
> 500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available
> 
> Cheers
> Rosemary
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043
> 
> 
> 
> On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown  wrote:
> Hi Rosemary,
> 
> What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available 
> Space?
> Storage   256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
> Regards,
> Ronni
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
>> Hi there,
>> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 
>> GB. How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) 
>> and what do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
>> 
>> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, 
>> ...nothing m

Re: running out of space

[FW]

Just cleared download folder and then trash, now 177GB available, will attend 
to your other suggestions
on w/end.

Thanks and happy easter.

Walter
**

> On 27 Mar 2018, at 18:09 , Ronda Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Walter,
> 
> I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my Macs and 
> not running them from an External Drive.
> But some people do so successfully.
> 
> The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER 
> recommend any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 15% 
> available space.
> I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
> Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run well 
> and fast.
> ‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)
> 
> So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
> The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB extra.
> I would then run WhatSize app to give you details of where the used is being 
> used.
> It’s a good starting point.
> 
> Uninstall old applications you haven’t used & never will again, archive mail 
> attachments & years old mail. Make sure the Trash is empty, the Download 
> Folder is empty.
> Only the HD and ‘One’ folder on the Desktop. ‘That One Folder’ on the Desktop 
> can have other folders inside it if required.
> There are lots of items that need regularly cleaned up & ‘culled’.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
> On 27 Mar 2018, at 5:19 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Ronni,
>> I have a question on the same subject.
>> My HD on the 2009 iMac is 1TB and available now is 157GB.
>> Enough ? Or should I look at moving iTunes files or iPhoto files to an 
>> ext/HD ?
>> 
>> I am also now looking at the language file situation.
>> 
>> Thanks
>> Walter
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi Rosemary,
>>> 15.2GB is nowhere near enough available space. Are you running High Sierra?
>>> You need to free up space ASAP, or you will be having problems.
>>> 
>>> Do you have WhatSize.app version 6.6.3 (which is compatible with High 
>>> Sierra)?
>>> If not you can download it from this link: https://whatsizemac.com/
>>> WhatSize will show you what is taking up the space on your MBP Hard Drive.
>>> 
>>> Also did you remove unneeded language localization files on your MBP.
>>> I always remove the unneeded language localization files from my Macs.
>>> I only keep All the English - English (Australia), English (United 
>>> Kingdom), English (United States).
>>> If you only ever use English, there is no need to have all the other 
>>> language files taking up valuable GBs of space.
>>> I use Monolingual 1.8.0 to remove the thousand of unneeded language 
>>> localization files.
>>> You can check it out at this link: 
>>> https://ingmarstein.github.io/Monolingual/
>>> 
>>> Run WhatSize 6.6.3 to show you details of the space use.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 3:58 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>>> 
 Hi Ronni,
 500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available
 
 Cheers
 Rosemary
 
 Rosemary Spark
 PO Box 781
 South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
 Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
 Mobile: 0414268043
 
 
 
 On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 Hi Rosemary,
 
 What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available 
 Space?
 Storage256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
 Regards,
 Ronni
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
 On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
 
> Hi there,
> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 GB. 
> How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) and 
> what do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
> 
> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, 
> ...nothing much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of 
> programmes I don't use)
> 
>   Model Name: MacBook Pro
>   Model Identifier:   MacBookPro14,2
>   Processor Name: Intel Core i5
>   Processor Speed:3.1 GHz
>   Number of Processors:   1
>   Total Number of Cores:  2
>   L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB
>   L3 Cache:   4 MB
>   Memory: 8 GB
>   Boot ROM Version:   MBP142.0169.B00
>   SMC Version (system):   2.44f1
> 
> 
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043>
>>> 
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Re: running out of space

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Walter,

I prefer to have my Photos & iPhoto libraries & iTunes library on my Macs and 
not running them from an External Drive.
But some people do so successfully.

The absolute VERY minimum free space some say is 15%... I would NEVER recommend 
any of my clients, friends or WAMUG people run their Macs at 15% available 
space.
I prefer to have at the very least 25% available space on my Macs.
Macs running latest Operating systems need a lot of free space to run well and 
fast.
‘Lean & Mean’ is the way to have a Mac operating at its maximum ;-)

So Walter your Mac’s HD is very close to the 15% (150GB).
The unneeded language localization files will give you probably 1-2GB extra.
I would then run WhatSize app to give you details of where the used is being 
used.
It’s a good starting point.

Uninstall old applications you haven’t used & never will again, archive mail 
attachments & years old mail. Make sure the Trash is empty, the Download Folder 
is empty.
Only the HD and ‘One’ folder on the Desktop. ‘That One Folder’ on the Desktop 
can have other folders inside it if required.
There are lots of items that need regularly cleaned up & ‘culled’.

Cheers,
Ronni
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> On 27 Mar 2018, at 5:19 pm, FW  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> I have a question on the same subject.
> My HD on the 2009 iMac is 1TB and available now is 157GB.
> Enough ? Or should I look at moving iTunes files or iPhoto files to an ext/HD 
> ?
> 
> I am also now looking at the language file situation.
> 
> Thanks
> Walter
> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Rosemary,
>> 15.2GB is nowhere near enough available space. Are you running High Sierra?
>> You need to free up space ASAP, or you will be having problems.
>> 
>> Do you have WhatSize.app version 6.6.3 (which is compatible with High 
>> Sierra)?
>> If not you can download it from this link: https://whatsizemac.com/
>> WhatSize will show you what is taking up the space on your MBP Hard Drive.
>> 
>> Also did you remove unneeded language localization files on your MBP.
>> I always remove the unneeded language localization files from my Macs.
>> I only keep All the English - English (Australia), English (United Kingdom), 
>> English (United States).
>> If you only ever use English, there is no need to have all the other 
>> language files taking up valuable GBs of space.
>> I use Monolingual 1.8.0 to remove the thousand of unneeded language 
>> localization files.
>> You can check it out at this link: https://ingmarstein.github.io/Monolingual/
>> 
>> Run WhatSize 6.6.3 to show you details of the space use.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 3:58 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Ronni,
>>> 500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Rosemary
>>> 
>>> Rosemary Spark
>>> PO Box 781
>>> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>>> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>>> Mobile: 0414268043
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown  wrote:
 Hi Rosemary,
 
 What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available 
 Space?
 Storage256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
 Regards,
 Ronni
  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
 
 
> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 GB. 
> How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) and 
> what do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
> 
> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, 
> ...nothing much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of 
> programmes I don't use)
> 
>   Model Name: MacBook Pro
>   Model Identifier:   MacBookPro14,2
>   Processor Name: Intel Core i5
>   Processor Speed:3.1 GHz
>   Number of Processors:   1
>   Total Number of Cores:  2
>   L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB
>   L3 Cache:   4 MB
>   Memory: 8 GB
>   Boot ROM Version:   MBP142.0169.B00
>   SMC Version (system):   2.44f1
> 
> 
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043>
>> 
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Re: running out of space

[Ronda Brown]

Hi Rosemary,
15.2GB is nowhere near enough available space. Are you running High Sierra?
You need to free up space ASAP, or you will be having problems.

Do you have WhatSize.app version 6.6.3 (which is compatible with High Sierra)?
If not you can download it from this link: https://whatsizemac.com/
WhatSize will show you what is taking up the space on your MBP Hard Drive.

Also did you remove unneeded language localization files on your MBP.
I always remove the unneeded language localization files from my Macs.
I only keep All the English - English (Australia), English (United Kingdom), 
English (United States).
If you only ever use English, there is no need to have all the other language 
files taking up valuable GBs of space.
I use Monolingual 1.8.0 to remove the thousand of unneeded language 
localization files.
You can check it out at this link: https://ingmarstein.github.io/Monolingual/

Run WhatSize 6.6.3 to show you details of the space use.

Cheers,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 27 Mar 2018, at 3:58 pm, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ronni,
> 500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available
> 
> Cheers
> Rosemary
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043
> 
> 
> 
>> On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown  wrote:
>> Hi Rosemary,
>> 
>> What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available 
>> Space?
>> Storage  256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
>> Regards,
>> Ronni
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi there,
>>> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 GB. 
>>> How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) and what 
>>> do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
>>> 
>>> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, 
>>> ...nothing much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of 
>>> programmes I don't use)
>>> 
>>>   Model Name:   MacBook Pro
>>>   Model Identifier: MacBookPro14,2
>>>   Processor Name:   Intel Core i5
>>>   Processor Speed:  3.1 GHz
>>>   Number of Processors: 1
>>>   Total Number of Cores:2
>>>   L2 Cache (per Core):  256 KB
>>>   L3 Cache: 4 MB
>>>   Memory:   8 GB
>>>   Boot ROM Version: MBP142.0169.B00
>>>   SMC Version (system): 2.44f1
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rosemary Spark
>>> PO Box 781
>>> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
>>> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
>>> Mobile: 0414268043>
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[Rosemary Spark]

Hi Ronni,
500 Flash storage  15.2 GB available

Cheers
Rosemary

Rosemary Spark
PO Box 781
South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
Mobile: 0414268043



On 27 March 2018 at 12:43, Ronda Brown  wrote:

> Hi Rosemary,
>
> What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available
> Space?
> Storage 256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
> Regards,
> Ronni
>
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB
>
>
> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
>
> Hi there,
> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 GB.
> How do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) and what
> do I do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
>
> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious,
> ...nothing much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of
> programmes I don't use)
>
>   Model Name: MacBook Pro
>
>   Model Identifier: MacBookPro14,2
>
>   Processor Name: Intel Core i5
>
>   Processor Speed: 3.1 GHz
>
>   Number of Processors: 1
>
>   Total Number of Cores: 2
>
>   L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
>
>   L3 Cache: 4 MB
>
>   Memory: 8 GB
>
>   Boot ROM Version: MBP142.0169.B00
>
>   SMC Version (system): 2.44f1
>
>
>
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043 <0414%20268%20043>
>
>
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[Ronda Brown]

Hi Rosemary,

What storage do you have on your MacBook Pro 14,2 and how much Available Space?
Storage 256, 512 GB, or 1 TB flash storage?
Regards,
Ronni
 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 27 Mar 2018, at 9:29 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> Hi there,
> I have a Macbook pro which is running out of space. Now Photos is 232 GB. How 
> do I safely move/copy  to a hard drive (without losing stuff) and what do I 
> do then re backup etc. It's far too big to add to icloud!
> 
> Also any other suggestions for slimming down (apart from obvious, ...nothing 
> much on desktop, emptying caches, trash; getting rid of programmes I don't 
> use)
> 
>   Model Name: MacBook Pro
>   Model Identifier:   MacBookPro14,2
>   Processor Name: Intel Core i5
>   Processor Speed:3.1 GHz
>   Number of Processors:   1
>   Total Number of Cores:  2
>   L2 Cache (per Core):256 KB
>   L3 Cache:   4 MB
>   Memory: 8 GB
>   Boot ROM Version:   MBP142.0169.B00
>   SMC Version (system):   2.44f1
> 
> 
> 
> Rosemary Spark
> PO Box 781
> South Fremantle WA 6162 Australia
> Phone: + 61 ‭8 6397 6822‬
> Mobile: 0414268043
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