Re: Update 10.5.2
Just to update you all on this post: Thanks to Ronni again for her input - in the end the machine went to the local technician in Busselton. It appears that I was one of the select few who experienced this problem with the screen freezing after resetting once the update 10.5.2 had completed download. Nobody appears to know why?! It has something to do with the keychains failing to initialize and the machine can only be re-booted from the Leopard disc after a series of other surgical changes have been made to the operating system. Far more common apparently has been problems with graphics on certain machines after the update. Have a good weekend. David On 03/03/2008, at 12:29 PM, David Wood wrote: Hi All, 3 weeks back I posted to list problems I was having with re-starting my iMac G5 after loading this last update. Thanks again to Peter Hinchcliffe for his advice and help. I am now back from a trip overseas and have my nice new Apple keyboard and as Peter instructed have restarted with Command - V keys depressed and as a result opened up in verbose mode. The message coming up and being continually repeated, is, that the DaemonInitialize failed and SecKeychainAddCallback failed 1. Can anyone please advise on next best course of action to take. Thanks, David -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
On 03/03/2008, at 12:29 PM, David Wood wrote: Hi All, 3 weeks back I posted to list problems I was having with re-starting my iMac G5 after loading this last update. Thanks again to Peter Hinchcliffe for his advice and help. I am now back from a trip overseas and have my nice new Apple keyboard and as Peter instructed have restarted with Command - V keys depressed and as a result opened up in verbose mode. The message coming up and being continually repeated, is, that the DaemonInitialize failed and SecKeychainAddCallback failed 1. Can anyone please advise on next best course of action to take. Hi David, Just another thought. If you are unable to download install the 'OSX 10.5.2 Combo Update' using your iMac, do you have another firewire Mac Computer to use to download the stand alone (Combo) 10.5.2 Update and then use Firewire Target Disk Mode to install the Combo Update to your disabled iMac. The OSX10.5.2 Combo Update can be downloaded from here: http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/macosx_updates/macosx1052comboupdate.html Cheers, Ronni -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Update 10.5.2
Hi All, 3 weeks back I posted to list problems I was having with re-starting my iMac G5 after loading this last update. Thanks again to Peter Hinchcliffe for his advice and help. I am now back from a trip overseas and have my nice new Apple keyboard and as Peter instructed have restarted with Command - V keys depressed and as a result opened up in verbose mode. The message coming up and being continually repeated, is, that the DaemonInitialize failed and SecKeychainAddCallback failed 1. Can anyone please advise on next best course of action to take. Thanks, David -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
Hi John, Sounds a bit like you are fed up with Leopard. That is unfortunate, you would think Apple would give you a free copy of Tiger to install and run with until they get Leopard and all the related software issues sorted out. After all, you did buy Leopard in good faith that it would run on your machine and with the major software software products you had It wouldn't be any skin of Apple's nose, and it would keep you as a happy customer, which by the sound of your wife, the good-will is dissipating rapidly. Cheers Clyde On 18/02/2008, at 10:05 PM, John Daniels wrote: Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of this message. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- This e-mail, including any attached files, may contain confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, distribution, or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient (or authorized to receive information for the intended recipient), please contact the sender
Re: Update 10.5.2
Hi Chris, Have you installed the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1? This update addresses a responsiveness issue on MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers. Some MacBook and MacBook Pro systems may occasionally experience a temporary suspension of keyboard input which can last a minute or longer. The Mac OS X 10.5.1 update is required before installing the MacBook, MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookmacbookprosoftwareupdate11.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/02/2008, at 11:18 AM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http
Re: Update 10.5.2
Do you have auto update turned on for office, windows, powerpoint and excel in office X are one of the main apps I use and have not had any problems with them on either machine on either version? There has been a number of updates in the last few months come down from microsoft? H -Original Message- From: Chris Burton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 11:19 AM To: Hugh Griffiths Cc: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version of iphoto (which alphabetically preceded the MacOSX 10.5.2 update in the update process) couldn't run due to a permissions error, hanging software update and thus prevented the 10.5.2 update from running. Running iPhoto, then rerunning software update fixed the issue. Richard -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http
Re: Update 10.5.2
Hi Ronni and Hugh Great suggestions and thanks very much. I didnt know about either of them! Hugh how and where do I do I turn on auto update in the office X suite? Ronni it seems the keyboard problems were known which makes me less stressed now, thanks heaps kindest regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, Have you installed the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1? This update addresses a responsiveness issue on MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers. Some MacBook and MacBook Pro systems may occasionally experience a temporary suspension of keyboard input which can last a minute or longer. The Mac OS X 10.5.1 update is required before installing the MacBook, MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookmacbookprosoftwareupdate11.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/02/2008, at 11:18 AM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check is run before loading the system user files. Safe boot also prevents potentially incompatible software loading at start up. Then locate the update and run the 10.5.2 installer - hopefully all will go well. My only observed problems were with software update not getting to do the update itself because on one machine, iPhoto had not been used since the last iphoto update, so the new version
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Ill check when I get home, I vaguely remember it was a separate program on the install disk that you selected, Ill let you know tonight. H -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Burton Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 12:04 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Hi Ronni and Hugh Great suggestions and thanks very much. I didnt know about either of them! Hugh how and where do I do I turn on auto update in the office X suite? Ronni it seems the keyboard problems were known which makes me less stressed now, thanks heaps kindest regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, Have you installed the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1? This update addresses a responsiveness issue on MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers. Some MacBook and MacBook Pro systems may occasionally experience a temporary suspension of keyboard input which can last a minute or longer. The Mac OS X 10.5.1 update is required before installing the MacBook, MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookmacbookprosoftwareupdate1 1.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/02/2008, at 11:18 AM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/ guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 1. Fixing permissions is still an ?hour long process with 10.5.2, but it eventually finishes (unlike the minutes it takes in 10.4). 2. G4 Intel don't go together, but I hope you are applying the correct update for the type of computer that you have (the installer should tell you anyway). Check that you have plenty of free disk space (5 GB), then directly download the combo 10.5.2 updater (350 MB) from Apple (it will end up in the downloads folder). Then restart holding down the shift key, to do a safe boot. It takes a while to start up in safe boot mode because a file system check
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Chris, Configuring AutoUpdate for Office 2008 By default, Microsoft AutoUpdate for Mac is set to look for updates to Office 2008 applications automatically once per week on a user's computer. However, you can modify the default setting to specify a different schedule. AutoUpdate preferences are stored in the com.microsoft.autoupdate2.plist file in /Users/username/Library/ Preferences. When you are deploying AutoUpdate preferences from a central location, deploy this file. Note If a user is logged in with an administrator account, the user can run AutoUpdate by starting any Office 2008 application and then clicking Check for Updates on the Help menu. Set AutoUpdate preferences • In /Users/username/Library/Application Support/Microsoft/MAU2.0/, double-click Microsoft AutoUpdate.app. • Either click Manually, or click Automatically. • If you are planning to deploy updates centrally, click Manually to prevent automatic updates on users' computers. • If you click Automatically, on the Check for Updates pop-up menu, click the schedule that you want to use for installing updates on user computers. Cheers, Ronni On 19/02/2008, at 1:28 PM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Ill check when I get home, I vaguely remember it was a separate program on the install disk that you selected, Ill let you know tonight. H -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Burton Sent: Tuesday, 19 February 2008 12:04 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Hi Ronni and Hugh Great suggestions and thanks very much. I didnt know about either of them! Hugh how and where do I do I turn on auto update in the office X suite? Ronni it seems the keyboard problems were known which makes me less stressed now, thanks heaps kindest regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:39 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: Hi Chris, Have you installed the MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1? This update addresses a responsiveness issue on MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers. Some MacBook and MacBook Pro systems may occasionally experience a temporary suspension of keyboard input which can last a minute or longer. The Mac OS X 10.5.1 update is required before installing the MacBook, MacBook Pro Software Update 1.1. http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macbookmacbookprosoftwareupdate1 1.html Cheers, Ronni On 19/02/2008, at 11:18 AM, Chris Burton wrote: Hi Hugh Thats the most encouraging account I have heard re the update. I have a recent MacBook Pro with 10.5.1 and Im not happy with it at all mainly for the reason unknown to me the keyboard stops working in a very random fashion, in any application where I have to type. Word X seems to be the worst and most annoying since I have heaps of reports to write!! I have rebooted and done pram and persmission quite a few times. This tends to reduce the frequency for awhile then it just starts happening again. Has anyone had this occur and know of any fixes or advice on ways I might stop it happening Im wondering if the update with fix it or make it or other things worse? kind regards chris On 19/02/2008, at 11:08 AM, Hugh Griffiths wrote: Just finished my ibook g4 ( 800 mhz) worked fine, permission verify took 30 mins, permission repair took 16 mins( only one difference) My imac g5, was very slow verify took 40 mins ( many many differences all in system/library/extensions) repair took 20 mins The ibook g4 is under spec ( 866 is min spec) but has no peripherals and seems to be fine. The G5 has two external firewire drives ( 800 GB and 600 Gb), four ipods ( usb) 1 ipod ( firewire) Epson printer, sony video camera, sony still camera ( one usb one firewire) and a usb webcam attached. In both cases I clicked cancel when software installer ( which is set to automatically tell me when the new updates are available) and I actually downloaded the full 350 MB version of the 10.5.2. With the G5 I unplugged all external devices and cancelled all programs ( things like skype and some music stuff which run in the background) and both machines ran through without a hitch. Haven't tried every single app on each machine, but what I have tried works fine Hugh -Original Message- From: WAMUG Mailing List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Daniels Sent: Monday, 18 February 2008 10:05 PM To: WAMUG Mailing List Subject: Re: Update 10.5.2 Thanks Richard I haven't tried it yet but I'm hanging on to your email. My wife dearly wishes she was back with her old table lamp model and Tiger and then Photoshop 7 would work, PowerPoint also, our old scanner would operate and so on. Cheers John On 16/2/08 3:44 PM, Pontifex Family [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK
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Hi all I updated my G4 (Motorola chip) Leopard and whilst it took a long time to install and patch the update it seems to operate OK except that verify or repair permissions just hangs. The update of my wife's G4 Intel downloaded OK but the installation just hung with the blue line halfway for 4 hours. The machine locked up and had to be unplugged. It started up OK after a long wait and shows 10.5.1 still installed. Perhaps like many others I'm not game to try again. Cheers John -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi... All went well for me on two machines, except all my iCal calendars have vanished (and RADAR is giving me an error so I can't report the bug :) Have fun, Shay (Who thankfully SuperDupered the machine before installing). -- === Shay Telfer Perth, Western Australia Technomancer The love of liberty is the love Opinions for hire [POQ] of others; the love of power is http://newtonslore.com/fnord the love of ourselves - Hazlitt -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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G'day All, Performed update last night on my Powerbook no problem. However, when restarting after download on my iMac G5 the screen has frozen on the start up page featuring the Apple logo and the countdown wheel. No matter how many times I have turned the machine on and off it is still frozen any advice at this stage would be very much appreciated! Thanks, David On 12/02/2008, at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, For those interested, I have updated my Macbook 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo to 10.5.2 and also some graphics update also from Apple, cannot remember what it was. Everything is working without any problems so far. Looks like Apple did a good job of this update. Good night all, Philippe C PS It is so hot in my room that my trusty G5 was sounding like an A380 taking off, so much so that I had to turn it off and use the laptop. At least the little beastie does not seem to protest too much :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 14/02/2008, at 7:36 AM, David Wood wrote: G'day All, Performed update last night on my Powerbook no problem. However, when restarting after download on my iMac G5 the screen has frozen on the start up page featuring the Apple logo and the countdown wheel. No matter how many times I have turned the machine on and off it is still frozen any advice at this stage would be very much appreciated! Thanks, David If you restart holding down the command and V keys you will start up in verbose mode. Your screen will fill with ugly white UNIX code on a black background, but you will see where in the startup process the fault may lie. I've found in the past that performing this simple act alone can often fix whatever the problem is. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 14/02/2008, at 8:24 AM, David Wood wrote: Thanks Peter gave this a try but no change I am afraid?! Still have the start up screen with the spinning countdown wheel. David In the absence of see what you're doing, I have to ask: are you holding down cmd-V until the UNIX text appears, or simply holding and releasing immediately? If, after holding down cmd-V for up to 30 seconds or so the UNIX test has not appeared, try booting from your Leopard DVD and repairing permissions and/or the drive itself. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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hate to say this but this is why, even though I like my wireless Apple Al. keyboard, I still keep a wired keyboard and mouse tucked away in a corner for doing startup diagnostics. Thanks again Peter, Yes, I have tried several times now but still no change to the screen(have continued to hold down cmd-V for uotp 2 minutes). I have now realised that there already is an iPod Touch DVD in the slot and I cannot release/eject this disc as my wireless keyboard is not connected to the machine?! I have now tried removing all cables and turning off the power at the wall and then relaunching with the power button depressed as I plug back into the mains socket(as proposed on the Apple support site) but still to no avail! This is not looking too good! David On 14/02/2008, at 8:36 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 14/02/2008, at 8:24 AM, David Wood wrote: Thanks Peter gave this a try but no change I am afraid?! Still have the start up screen with the spinning countdown wheel. David In the absence of see what you're doing, I have to ask: are you holding down cmd-V until the UNIX text appears, or simply holding and releasing immediately? If, after holding down cmd-V for up to 30 seconds or so the UNIX test has not appeared, try booting from your Leopard DVD and repairing permissions and/or the drive itself. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- ~ Mark Secker IT Labs Manager Computer Support Officer School of Business IT Services. ph# 61-8-6488 1855 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Western Australia - CRICOS Provider No. 00126G ~ It takes an idiot to do cool things that's why it's cool - Haruhara Haruka (FLCL) http://www.pbase.com/marxz -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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On 14/02/2008, at 8:59 AM, David Wood wrote: Thanks again Peter, Yes, I have tried several times now but still no change to the screen(have continued to hold down cmd-V for uotp 2 minutes). I have now realised that there already is an iPod Touch DVD in the slot and I cannot release/eject this disc as my wireless keyboard is not connected to the machine?! I have now tried removing all cables and turning off the power at the wall and then relaunching with the power button depressed as I plug back into the mains socket(as proposed on the Apple support site) but still to no avail! This is not looking too good! David How about if you hold down the Mouse button at startup? This should eject the DVD. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Not sure if this is relevant but Macfixit has this today on its website. Lloyd Problems starting up As with any incremental Mac OS X update, a number of users are experiencing an inability to properly startup after applying Mac OS X 10.5.2. Our tutorial on startup failure provides some insight. Fixes that are proving effective: Startup in Safe mode: Hold the shift key while rebooting your Mac, then just restart normally. Reset NVRAM/PRAM: Shut down your Mac, then start it back up while immediately holding the following keys: Command, Option, P and R. Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the third time. Check for problematic login/startup items: Startup in safe mode (hold the Shift key while you startup). Next, go to the Accounts pane of System Preferences and click the Login items tab. Select all the login items and click Remove, then restart. Also, check the /Library/StartupItems and /System/Library/StartupItems folders and remove any third-party items. Look for problematic kernel extensions: Boot in Safe mode, and look in the folder /System/Library/Extensions for any third-party kernel extensions (files that end in .kext). Remove the kernel extensions and check for persistence of the issue. See the tutorial for more On 14/02/2008, at 8:59 AM, David Wood wrote: Thanks again Peter, Yes, I have tried several times now but still no change to the screen(have continued to hold down cmd-V for uotp 2 minutes). I have now realised that there already is an iPod Touch DVD in the slot and I cannot release/eject this disc as my wireless keyboard is not connected to the machine?! I have now tried removing all cables and turning off the power at the wall and then relaunching with the power button depressed as I plug back into the mains socket(as proposed on the Apple support site) but still to no avail! This is not looking too good! David How about if you hold down the Mouse button at startup? This should eject the DVD. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Lloyd White 22 Challenger Parade City Beach Western Australia 6015 Ph: and Fax: (08) 9385 8174 Write a Winning Job Application 4th Edition 2007. http://lloydwhite.iinet.net.au/ -- -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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OK Peter, managed to get the disc to eject. Have now tried to reboot with Leopard DVD but as yet no success. Thanks also to Lloyd - have followed info u sent but again at this stage no success as yet - going to keep trying, just maybe something will spark life into this machine! David On 14/02/2008, at 9:33 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 14/02/2008, at 8:59 AM, David Wood wrote: Thanks again Peter, Yes, I have tried several times now but still no change to the screen(have continued to hold down cmd-V for uotp 2 minutes). I have now realised that there already is an iPod Touch DVD in the slot and I cannot release/eject this disc as my wireless keyboard is not connected to the machine?! I have now tried removing all cables and turning off the power at the wall and then relaunching with the power button depressed as I plug back into the mains socket(as proposed on the Apple support site) but still to no avail! This is not looking too good! David How about if you hold down the Mouse button at startup? This should eject the DVD. -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
I'm suffering at the moment with an issue post-update where the Dell display connected to my G5 isn't being engaged. After the original 10.5.2 update, my system restarted but the screen remained black. I noticed that my iPod stated it was connected and syncronising however, so I'm believe the computer was running. After I unplugged a bunch of things, including the my firewire iSight and PCI USB 2.0 card it booted up. Subsequent restarts keep bringing back the 'black screen of ignorance.' The solution keeps changing though. The only thing I'm doing consistently is unplugging/replugging the computer. I thought it might be a Graphics card issue (I have an ATI X800) ... It still might turn out to be. The issue only started when I installed the 10.5.2 update though, so it's a pretty unfortunate coincidence if it _is_ a hardware problem. Cheers, Toby. On 14/2/08 2:06 PM, Rob Davies [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Afternoon All, On 14Feb2008, at 9:45 am, Lloyd White wrote: Wireless keyboard would be the problem, as machine does not initialise Bluetooth until after machine sets system parameters. Same issue most non Apple USB keyboards face, and even the new aluminium from Apple with PowerMac G5 machines. I always have to resort to original wired keyboard, for the system to recognise start-up sequences. Not sure if this is relevant but Macfixit has this today on its website. Lloyd Problems starting up As with any incremental Mac OS X update, a number of users are experiencing an inability to properly startup after applying Mac OS X 10.5.2. Our tutorial on startup failure provides some insight. Fixes that are proving effective: Startup in Safe mode: Hold the shift key while rebooting your Mac, then just restart normally. Reset NVRAM/PRAM: Shut down your Mac, then start it back up while immediately holding the following keys: Command, Option, P and R. Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the third time. This also can be achieved by holding power button when starting. One should hear the start-up sound, so just hold for whatever amount is recommended then release. Sometimes it does not start so a quick push of the start button should get it under way. Another problem that has appeared in past; connected devices via Firewire, so always disconnect such devices whilst updating. Cheers! `Rob... -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
Afternoon All, On 14Feb2008, at 9:45 am, Lloyd White wrote: Wireless keyboard would be the problem, as machine does not initialise Bluetooth until after machine sets system parameters. Same issue most non Apple USB keyboards face, and even the new aluminium from Apple with PowerMac G5 machines. I always have to resort to original wired keyboard, for the system to recognise start-up sequences. Not sure if this is relevant but Macfixit has this today on its website. Lloyd Problems starting up As with any incremental Mac OS X update, a number of users are experiencing an inability to properly startup after applying Mac OS X 10.5.2. Our tutorial on startup failure provides some insight. Fixes that are proving effective: Startup in Safe mode: Hold the shift key while rebooting your Mac, then just restart normally. Reset NVRAM/PRAM: Shut down your Mac, then start it back up while immediately holding the following keys: Command, Option, P and R. Hold the keys down until the computer restarts and you hear the startup sound for the third time. This also can be achieved by holding power button when starting. One should hear the start-up sound, so just hold for whatever amount is recommended then release. Sometimes it does not start so a quick push of the start button should get it under way. Another problem that has appeared in past; connected devices via Firewire, so always disconnect such devices whilst updating. Cheers! `Rob... -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
It sounds like Apple Leopard Graphics 1.0 includes significantly improved drivers for some graphics cards resulting in impressive increases in performance in many games. eg many (not all) WoW users have noted significant performance increases: http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/02/11/mac-os-x-10-5-2-brings-big-fps-gains/ from 27.5 FPS to between 45 and 60 FPS on his iMac after installing 10.5.2 and the Leopard Graphics Update (which also just came out today and requires 10.5.2), and our own Adam Holisky went from 30 to 50 FPS on his own first-gen Intel iMac. -Mart On 13/02/2008, at 8:33 AM, Peter Hinchliffe wrote: On 12/02/2008, at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, For those interested, I have updated my Macbook 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo to 10.5.2 and also some graphics update also from Apple, cannot remember what it was. Everything is working without any problems so far. Looks like Apple did a good job of this update. Good night all, Philippe C That extra update is called Apple Leopard Graphics 1.0. It is applicable only to 10.5.2, and is apparently important but no one seems to know why, and Apple aren't telling: Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Update 10.5.2
On 12/02/2008, at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, For those interested, I have updated my Macbook 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo to 10.5.2 and also some graphics update also from Apple, cannot remember what it was. Everything is working without any problems so far. Looks like Apple did a good job of this update. Good night all, Philippe C That extra update is called Apple Leopard Graphics 1.0. It is applicable only to 10.5.2, and is apparently important but no one seems to know why, and Apple aren't telling: Leopard Graphics Update is recommended for all users and improves the stability and compatibility of your Mac. This update requires Mac OS X 10.5.2 -- Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer Perth, Western Australia Phone (618) 9332 6482Fax (618) 9332 0913 Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to. -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Update 10.5.2
Hi Everyone, For those interested, I have updated my Macbook 2.2Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo to 10.5.2 and also some graphics update also from Apple, cannot remember what it was. Everything is working without any problems so far. Looks like Apple did a good job of this update. Good night all, Philippe C PS It is so hot in my room that my trusty G5 was sounding like an A380 taking off, so much so that I had to turn it off and use the laptop. At least the little beastie does not seem to protest too much :) -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml Guidelines - http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml Unsubscribe - mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
