Re: Word problem on iMac

[Neil Houghton]

Hi Peter,


Generally whenever I want to create a document accessible to both
Windows/Mac users (without tying them into having proprietary paid software)
I just create the document in whatever software suits ME for the particular
task and then just print it as a pdf (which is so easy in OSX).

Everyone is used to downloading and reading pdfs which seem to be the
de-facto default standard for downloadable documents and manuals.

Just a thought.


Cheers


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on 27/1/10 9:18 AM, Peter Bull at pb...@bbnet.com.au wrote:

> 
> Apple to the rescueagain!!
> 
> Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input.
> I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well -
> everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted that
> the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive.
> But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word file
> complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a  .doc Word
> document and everything is back the way it was.
> 
> I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having bought a
> copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of notes for TAFE
> and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC only using Word
> 2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software ever inflicted on
> the human race.
> 
> Thanks again... I can get back to work now.
> 
> 
> On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message
>> came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it.
>> However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost
>> all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under
>> another and double spaced.
>> 
>> Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If
>> so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I
>> don't have a backup copy.
>> iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.
>> 
>> Peter Bull
>> pb...@bbnet.com.au
>> 
>> 




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Re: Word problem on iMac

[Ray Forma]

Peter,

Save the document as a Rich Text File (rtf). I know of no word- 
processor that can't read and interpret rtf files. Also, InDesign  
will happily place rtf files, often doing a better job than the same  
document saved as doc or docx file types.


I regard it as rude to send other persons doc or docx files, as you  
are assuming that they have Microsoft Word or similar, with which to  
successfully open the document.


Similarly, I rarely send emails in a form other than plain text. Many  
receivers now use iPhones and similar to check email, and formatted  
emails chew up their expensive data allocations at a rate of knots.


On 27/01/2010, at 9:18 AM, Peter Bull wrote:



Apple to the rescueagain!!

Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input.
I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well  
- everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted  
that the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive.
But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word  
file complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a  .doc  
Word document and everything is back the way it was.


I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having  
bought a copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of  
notes for TAFE and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC  
only using Word 2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software  
ever inflicted on the human race.


Thanks again... I can get back to work now.


On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote:


Regards,

Ray Forma
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Re: Word problem on iMac

[Peter Bull]

Apple to the rescueagain!!

Thanks Ray, Rob and Tim for your input.
I forgot to mention that all of the formatting was removed as well -  
everything was changed to Times Roman 12 point. I also omitted that  
the Word file was saved on a USB thumb drive.
But, last night I thought I would try Pages. It opened the Word file  
complete with tables and formatting and I saved it as a  .doc Word  
document and everything is back the way it was.


I would not normally use Word for such a big document, having bought a  
copy of Adobe InDesign, but this document is a set of notes for TAFE  
and other lecturers need access to it and TAFE is PC only using Word  
2007 , which is one of the worst pieces of software ever inflicted on  
the human race.


Thanks again... I can get back to work now.


On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote:



I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message  
came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it.  
However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost  
all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under  
another and double spaced.


Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If  
so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I  
don't have a backup copy.

iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.

Peter Bull
pb...@bbnet.com.au



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Re: Word problem on iMac

[Tim Law]

Did you happen to not save this new bloated document once you'd realised
what was happening???

If not, then Ray's solution stands me thinks.

Did the book happen to be sent to you via email?
If so, an original copy will still be attached to the email.

Tim



On 26/1/10 9:23 PM, "Peter Bull"  wrote:

> 
> I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came
> up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it.
> However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all
> the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under
> another and double spaced.
> 
> Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so,
> it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I don't
> have a backup copy.
> iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.
> 
> Peter Bull
> pb...@bbnet.com.au
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Word problem on iMac

[Rob Phillips]

I agree with Ray's recommendations.  Also, do a seach for files 
beginning with "Word Work file".  These are automatic backups which Word 
keeps, depending on your settings.  They are often stored in the 
Microsoft User Data directory.


You could also try opening the corrupted file with TextEdit, Pages, Open 
Office, etc. If you are successful, save it as RTF, then open the RTF in 
Word.


Hope this helps.

With books as large as yours, it can be helpful to keep each chapter as 
a separate document, and link it together using the Master Document 
feature, or just copy the chapters together again once you're just about 
ready to print.


Good luck

Rob

Peter Bull wrote:


I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came 
up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it. 
However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all 
the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under 
another and double spaced.


Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so, 
it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I don't 
have a backup copy.

iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.

Peter Bull
pb...@bbnet.com.au



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Re: Word problem on iMac

[Ray Forma]

If you don't have a backup copy then redoing all of your tables will  
be the incentive to create backups in future.


Make sure you do the following:

1  in the menus choose Word:Preferences:Save

2  Tick 'Always create backup copy'

3  Tick 'Save auto recovery every xx min" and set the time to 5 minutes

4  Train yourself to type Command-s at frequent intervals while  
working on any M$ Word document.


5  At the end of each half-day save a copy of the document with the  
date and time as part of its name. Preferably save on some medium  
other than your normal hard disk, so that when your hard disk crashes  
or a head falls off you will only have to redo half a day's in the  
worst case. Hopefully the crash occurs very soon after you have  
saved, on another medium, your dated and timed copy.


I have done the above routine ever since, in the 1980s, an  
acquaintance experienced a head failure on a hard disk (an external  
Apple Hard Disk with a capacity of all of 40MB) on which she lost  
most of a book she had been writing during the previous year on her  
Mac Plus. I was the one who finally gave her the bad news after she  
asked me to come and help; it wasn't a joyous occasion.


On 26/01/2010, at 9:23 PM, Peter Bull wrote:

I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message  
came up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it.  
However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost  
all the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line  
under another and double spaced.


Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If  
so, it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I  
don't have a backup copy.

iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.

Peter Bull
pb...@bbnet.com.au



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[Peter Bull]

I have just opened a book I have been revising in Word. A message came  
up saying there was some corruption but it managed to open it.  
However, the 135 pages has blown out to 465 because Word has lost all  
the tables so the info in the tables has been put one line under  
another and double spaced.


Is there some way I could go revert to the last saved version? If so,  
it would save me a huge amount of work of course.  And no, I don't  
have a backup copy.

iMac, OS 10.5.8. Word X for Mac.

Peter Bull
pb...@bbnet.com.au



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