Re: [WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi Ronni, thanks for that, I think I read this some years ago and will
use this when I do at some point go for a larger TM backup disc. Late
yesterday I looked at the status and it had in fact moved to the
backing up phase - so it had purged sufficient space from old backups
to permit the new backup to run. When I glanced at it, it had backed
up ~30GB of 230GB - so it is a substantial backup resulting from the
MS Office update and the Big Sur update combined. 
This confirms my confidence in TM as patience is important. When it
says it is doing something - it probably is doing something and to
leave it be to allow it to complete what it is doing. Around the time
of my earlier email here, I thought it might accelerate the process if
I plugged in my ethernet connection to the Time Capsule directly as
WiFi would probably have been slower than with an ethernet connection.
I watched the Network connection panel as I connected the ethernet and
it did connect so I assume the data processes between the MBP and the
TM backup disc (a 2TB portable drive attached via hub to the USB of
the TC). 

Kind Regards

Peter Crisp

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 Hi Peter,Have a read of my Tutorial 
http://www.ronnibrown.net/tutorials/migrate-to-a-larger-time/index.html
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Kind Regards,

Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 

On 12 Apr 2021, at 12:31 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:

Hi folks, during last week following my plunge into getting my MS
Office 365 subscription in order - which was an inhibitor for moving
to Big Sur (as my MS Office 2011 was not compatible with Big Sur) - I
then have done the Big Sur update. I am pretty happy with it and no
gotchas for me yet with anything.
However, during all these significant updates I turn off my TM backup
so I can manage the timing for when the next TM Backup takes place -
as I knew it would be a substantial backup. So on Sunday morning I
turned it on, whereupon it goes searching for the drive - found no
problem, then “Preparing Backup” this took a number of hours, then
it starts the process of “Freeing space” as my 2TB backup drive
(dedicated to my Macbook) is full. No problem, this has been the case
for the last few months and while it has taken some time to purge the
oldest backups to make space for the new backup, I thought it will
take a good deal of time. But this has been 24 hours+ now. Does anyone
else have this same set of circumstances I have and timing. I am
inclined to allow it to continue like this for days if needed as it
doesn’t really bother me. Keen to hear others experiences or could
this be in an endless Big Sur loop I need to intervene?
Pete.

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Re: [WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup drive

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Peter,
Have a read of my Tutorial 

http://www.ronnibrown.net/tutorials/migrate-to-a-larger-time/index.html

Kind Regards,
Ronni

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> On 12 Apr 2021, at 12:31 pm, Peter Crisp  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks, during last week following my plunge into getting my MS Office 365 
> subscription in order - which was an inhibitor for moving to Big Sur (as my 
> MS Office 2011 was not compatible with Big Sur) - I then have done the Big 
> Sur update. I am pretty happy with it and no gotchas for me yet with anything.
> 
> However, during all these significant updates I turn off my TM backup so I 
> can manage the timing for when the next TM Backup takes place - as I knew it 
> would be a substantial backup. So on Sunday morning I turned it on, whereupon 
> it goes searching for the drive - found no problem, then “Preparing Backup” 
> this took a number of hours, then it starts the process of “Freeing space” as 
> my 2TB backup drive (dedicated to my Macbook) is full. No problem, this has 
> been the case for the last few months and while it has taken some time to 
> purge the oldest backups to make space for the new backup, I thought it will 
> take a good deal of time. But this has been 24 hours+ now. Does anyone else 
> have this same set of circumstances I have and timing. I am inclined to allow 
> it to continue like this for days if needed as it doesn’t really bother me. 
> Keen to hear others experiences or could this be in an endless Big Sur loop I 
> need to intervene?
> 
> Pete.
> 
> 
> 
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[WAMUG} Time Machine Backup - post Big Sur and full backup drive

[Peter Crisp]

Hi folks, during last week following my plunge into getting my MS Office 365 
subscription in order - which was an inhibitor for moving to Big Sur (as my MS 
Office 2011 was not compatible with Big Sur) - I then have done the Big Sur 
update. I am pretty happy with it and no gotchas for me yet with anything.

However, during all these significant updates I turn off my TM backup so I can 
manage the timing for when the next TM Backup takes place - as I knew it would 
be a substantial backup. So on Sunday morning I turned it on, whereupon it goes 
searching for the drive - found no problem, then “Preparing Backup” this took a 
number of hours, then it starts the process of “Freeing space” as my 2TB backup 
drive (dedicated to my Macbook) is full. No problem, this has been the case for 
the last few months and while it has taken some time to purge the oldest 
backups to make space for the new backup, I thought it will take a good deal of 
time. But this has been 24 hours+ now. Does anyone else have this same set of 
circumstances I have and timing. I am inclined to allow it to continue like 
this for days if needed as it doesn’t really bother me. Keen to hear others 
experiences or could this be in an endless Big Sur loop I need to intervene?

Pete.



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Re: big sur

[Stephen Chape]

Yes … I reckon it is the most pleasant screen appearance for a long time.
And seems to be quick and free of “strange things” !! 爛

> On 24 Dec 2020, at 7:50 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Thank you for the greetings Peter, much appreciated and I trust you and yours 
> are safe and well and have a very pleasant Christmas and New Year.
> 
> As for Big Sur, I feel it is probably the best version in recent memory.  
> Everything works well and briskly.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Thompson
> jetj...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 24 Dec 2020, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe > <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:29 am, John Thompson >> <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Greetings All,
>>> 
>>> A little patience is all that is required.  Just after posting my previous 
>>> to the list, Macmini and Big Sur came to life.
>>> 
>>> All appears good and the interface is quite pleasing.
>>> 
>>> Best Wishes to all
>>> 
>>> John Thompson
>>> jetj...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> And I was just about to cross my fingers and everything!
>> 
>> Merry Christmas to you and Julie.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Peter
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Re: big sur

[John Thompson]

Thank you for the greetings Peter, much appreciated and I trust you and yours 
are safe and well and have a very pleasant Christmas and New Year.

As for Big Sur, I feel it is probably the best version in recent memory.  
Everything works well and briskly.

Regards

John Thompson
jetj...@optusnet.com.au



> On 24 Dec 2020, at 7:40 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:29 am, John Thompson > <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Greetings All,
>> 
>> A little patience is all that is required.  Just after posting my previous 
>> to the list, Macmini and Big Sur came to life.
>> 
>> All appears good and the interface is quite pleasing.
>> 
>> Best Wishes to all
>> 
>> John Thompson
>> jetj...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>
>> 
>> 
> 
> And I was just about to cross my fingers and everything!
> 
> Merry Christmas to you and Julie.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Peter
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Re: big sur

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:29 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Greetings All,
> 
> A little patience is all that is required.  Just after posting my previous to 
> the list, Macmini and Big Sur came to life.
> 
> All appears good and the interface is quite pleasing.
> 
> Best Wishes to all
> 
> John Thompson
> jetj...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>
> 
> 

And I was just about to cross my fingers and everything!

Merry Christmas to you and Julie.

Cheers,

Peter

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Re: big sur

[Stephen Chape]

I updated a few days after release (which is not like me, I usually wait about 
a month).
Got a little impatient this time, and I guess the hype got to me too.

Anyway I have had no issues and I really like it.
PS: The Mac start up chime is back .. very nostalgic !

The only issue I did have is that SuperDuper backup is dragging it’s feet.
I have communicated with them via email and they don’t seem very concerned.
Their response was like “ well just be patient or use Time Machine while you 
wait"
It will not yet run with Big Sur.

But that’s OK .. I have switched to Carbon Copy Cloner and finding that a more 
user friendly interface.
I only use this for my monthly backup that resides in my safe.
My main backup is Time Machine (but just in case everything gets stolen, I 
always have the safe backup).

Mac Mail confused me a little at first because I seemed to have a lot more 
additional folders than before.
And even some missing.
But now I have sorted them out all is fine there too.

Other than that … VERY PLEASED !


> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:29 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Greetings All,
> 
> A little patience is all that is required.  Just after posting my previous to 
> the list, Macmini and Big Sur came to life.
> 
> All appears good and the interface is quite pleasing.
> 
> Best Wishes to all
> 
> John Thompson
> jetj...@optusnet.com.au <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:05 am, John Thompson > <mailto:jetj...@optusnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been holding off on this upgrade, waiting on some positive reports.  
>> All looked good this morning so, with nothing better to do, I decided now 
>> was the time.
>> 
>> Thankfully, I still have my 13” mid- 2012 MacBook pro running Mojave as the 
>> late 2014 Mac mini is still trying to complete the upgrade to Big Sur.  It 
>> has been ove two hours now and still not up and running so I guess it is 
>> just a waiting game.
>> 
>> A very Merry Christmas and happy and safe New Year to one and all.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> John Thompson
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:55 am, Pete >> <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Marcus! 
>>> 
>>> Apple envy, will soldier  on with my 2013 MBP.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:56 am, Marcus Harris >>> <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
>>>> If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
>>>> Marcus 
>>>> Marcus Harris
>>>> Mobile +61417965618
>>>> 
>>>>  
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe >>>> <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon >>>>> <mailto:laut...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>>>>>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a 
>>>>>> few applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, 
>>>>>> FireFox, Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Philippe C. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall 
>>>>> than I ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing 
>>>>> ground in preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 
>>>>> 64-bit. Even Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as 
>>>>> part of a software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time 
>>>>> since then, has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think 
>>>>> all the software thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly 
>>>>> was not the case at the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward 
>>>>> with confidence I think.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Have a great Christmas a

Re: big sur

[Marcus Harris]

It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
Marcus 
Marcus Harris
Mobile +61417965618

 

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>> 
>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a few 
>> applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, FireFox, 
>> Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>> 
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>> 
>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>> 
>> Best Regards,
>> 
>> Philippe C. 
>> 
> 
> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall than I 
> ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing ground in 
> preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 64-bit. Even 
> Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as part of a 
> software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time since then, 
> has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think all the software 
> thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly was not the case at 
> the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with confidence I think.
> 
> Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
> 
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: big sur

[John Thompson]

Greetings All,

A little patience is all that is required.  Just after posting my previous to 
the list, Macmini and Big Sur came to life.

All appears good and the interface is quite pleasing.

Best Wishes to all

John Thompson
jetj...@optusnet.com.au



> On 23 Dec 2020, at 11:05 am, John Thompson  wrote:
> 
> I have been holding off on this upgrade, waiting on some positive reports.  
> All looked good this morning so, with nothing better to do, I decided now was 
> the time.
> 
> Thankfully, I still have my 13” mid- 2012 MacBook pro running Mojave as the 
> late 2014 Mac mini is still trying to complete the upgrade to Big Sur.  It 
> has been ove two hours now and still not up and running so I guess it is just 
> a waiting game.
> 
> A very Merry Christmas and happy and safe New Year to one and all.
> 
> Regards
> 
> John Thompson
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:55 am, Pete > <mailto:petercr...@westnet.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Marcus! 
>> 
>> Apple envy, will soldier  on with my 2013 MBP.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:56 am, Marcus Harris >> <mailto:cryptodo...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
>>> If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
>>> Marcus 
>>> Marcus Harris
>>> Mobile +61417965618
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe >>> <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon >>>> <mailto:laut...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>>>>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a 
>>>>> few applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, 
>>>>> FireFox, Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>>>>> 
>>>>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Philippe C. 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall 
>>>> than I ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing 
>>>> ground in preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 
>>>> 64-bit. Even Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as 
>>>> part of a software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time 
>>>> since then, has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think 
>>>> all the software thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly 
>>>> was not the case at the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with 
>>>> confidence I think.
>>>> 
>>>> Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>>> 
>>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>>> 
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Re: big sur

[John Thompson]

I have been holding off on this upgrade, waiting on some positive reports.  All 
looked good this morning so, with nothing better to do, I decided now was the 
time.

Thankfully, I still have my 13” mid- 2012 MacBook pro running Mojave as the 
late 2014 Mac mini is still trying to complete the upgrade to Big Sur.  It has 
been ove two hours now and still not up and running so I guess it is just a 
waiting game.

A very Merry Christmas and happy and safe New Year to one and all.

Regards

John Thompson

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:55 am, Pete  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Marcus! 
> 
> Apple envy, will soldier  on with my 2013 MBP.
> 
> 
> Regards
> 
> Pete
> 
>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:56 am, Marcus Harris  wrote:
>> 
>> It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
>> If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
>> Marcus 
>> Marcus Harris
>> Mobile +61417965618
>> 
>>  
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon >>> <mailto:laut...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>>>> 
>>>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>>>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a 
>>>> few applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, 
>>>> FireFox, Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>>>> 
>>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>>>> 
>>>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>>>> 
>>>> Best Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Philippe C. 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall than 
>>> I ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing ground 
>>> in preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 64-bit. 
>>> Even Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as part of a 
>>> software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time since then, 
>>> has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think all the 
>>> software thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly was not the 
>>> case at the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with confidence I 
>>> think.
>>> 
>>> Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind regards,
>>> 
>>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>>> Perth, Western Australia
>>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>>> 
>>> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
>>> 
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Re: big sur

[Pete]

Thanks Marcus! 

Apple envy, will soldier  on with my 2013 MBP.


Regards

Pete

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:56 am, Marcus Harris  wrote:
> 
> It’s purring on my new MacMini M1
> If only the NBN was fibre to my home. 
> Marcus 
> Marcus Harris
> Mobile +61417965618
> 
>  
> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 7:53 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
>>> 
>>> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable 
>>> copy of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a 
>>> few applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, 
>>> FireFox, Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
>>> 
>>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
>>> 
>>> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
>>> 
>>> Best Regards,
>>> 
>>> Philippe C. 
>>> 
>> 
>> Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall than 
>> I ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing ground 
>> in preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 64-bit. 
>> Even Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as part of a 
>> software bundle, and has not received an update in all the time since then, 
>> has now gone 64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think all the 
>> software thats’s important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly was not the 
>> case at the beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with confidence I 
>> think.
>> 
>> Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.
>> 
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
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>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
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Re: big sur

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 23 Dec 2020, at 1:25 am, Philippe Chaperon  wrote:
> 
> Hi Rosemary and Peter, 
> 
> I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable copy 
> of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a few 
> applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, FireFox, 
> Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 
> 
> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members
> 
> Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Philippe C. 
> 

Great news Philippe. I must say I do feel better about Big Sur overall than I 
ever felt about Catalina, which I think was somewhat of a testing ground in 
preparation for Big Sur, and a “proof of concept” for going all 64-bit. Even 
Kinemac, an animation application I obtained back in 2013 as part of a software 
bundle, and has not received an update in all the time since then, has now gone 
64-bit with the release of version 2.0! I think all the software thats’s 
important to me is now 64-bit, which certainly was not the case at the 
beginning of the year! I’ll be moving forward with confidence I think.

Have a great Christmas and all the best for the New Year.


Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: big sur

[Philippe Chaperon]

Hi Rosemary and Peter, 

I have updated my 21” iMac 3 days ago, after having done a full bootable copy 
of the HD, and so far so good. I must admit that I have only used a few 
applications so far, mainly Excel, Mail, GraphicConverter, Safari, FireFox, 
Reunion and Heredis and no problems noted. 

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all WAMUG members

Keep safe and enjoy the festivities. 

Best Regards,

Philippe C. 

"Being the richest man in the cemetery don't matter to me … saying we've done 
something wonderful … that's what matters."
Steve Jobs, 1955-2011

On 22 Dec 2020, at 9:07 am, Peter Hinchliffe  wrote:



> On 22 Dec 2020, at 8:46 am, Rosemary Spark  > wrote:
> 
> What do you think is it OK to download now?
> Macbook Pro 13 " 2017 Catalina 10.15.7
> Cheers
> 

Don’t see much in the way of problems out there in the wild. I’ll probably 
update during the Christmas break. Never did do Catalina, and the problem is 
now that the latest versions of Pages, Numbers and Keynote require 10.15 or 
later. This will happen with increasing frequency with other apps, especially 
as they get updated to work with the M1 processor, so I guess it’s time to move 
on anyway.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
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Perth, Western Australia
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Re: big sur

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 22 Dec 2020, at 8:46 am, Rosemary Spark  wrote:
> 
> What do you think is it OK to download now?
> Macbook Pro 13 " 2017 Catalina 10.15.7
> Cheers
> 

Don’t see much in the way of problems out there in the wild. I’ll probably 
update during the Christmas break. Never did do Catalina, and the problem is 
now that the latest versions of Pages, Numbers and Keynote require 10.15 or 
later. This will happen with increasing frequency with other apps, especially 
as they get updated to work with the M1 processor, so I guess it’s time to move 
on anyway.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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[Rosemary Spark]

What do you think is it OK to download now?
Macbook Pro 13 " 2017 Catalina 10.15.7
Cheers
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Tim,

I’m still running High Sierra on my Computers.
Have a read at this link  https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues

Kind Regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 7 Dec 2020, at 6:57 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Ronni does CCC still work okay with Big Sur?
> 
> 
> 
> Tim's red iPhone 
> 
>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 5:58 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that 
>> decision.
>> There was a reason... ;-)
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>> 
>>> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
>>> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> 
>>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
>>>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference 
>>>> Pane
>>>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>>>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or 
>>>> its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the 
>>>> Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>>>> 
>>>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>>>> awaiting a response.
>>>> 
>>>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding 
>>>> down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. 
>>>> When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the 
>>>> startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to 
>>>> always boot from the cloned volume).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>>>>> Are you using something else now then ?
>>>>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find 
>>>>>> out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>>>>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time 
>>>>>>> Machine in the meantime”.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>>>>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a 
>>>>>>> Drive locked in my safe.
>>>>>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>>>>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Stephen,

I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that decision.
There was a reason... ;-)

Kind Regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thank you Ronni.
> 
> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Stephen,
>> 
>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference Pane
>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or 
>> its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the 
>> Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>> 
>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>> awaiting a response.
>> 
>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding 
>> down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. 
>> When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the 
>> startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to 
>> always boot from the cloned volume).
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>>> Are you using something else now then ?
>>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find 
>>>> out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>>> 
>>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time 
>>>>> Machine in the meantime”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a 
>>>>> Drive locked in my safe.
>>>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>>>> 
>>>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Stephen Chape]

Hi again.

I might just wait a little longer for the SuperDuper upgrade.
If not forthcoming soon I may move to CCC.

The reason I use Time Machine and also SuperDuper:-
I feel that if my home is burgled and they take the Mac, the Time Machine drive 
will most likely go too.

So on the 1st of each month I take my SSD from my safe and do a SuperDuper 
backup.
I also store important files on Dropbox, but not photos and videos because of 
their size.

One can never back up too much 

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 8:15 am, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> Dear All,
> My experience is 
> - following a CCC update last week I now have a bootable Big Sur clone of my 
> computer (as well as the two Time Machine backups). This applies to all the 
> machines in our house.
> - my SuperDuper installations is patiently waiting for an upgrade.
> 
> An interesting and annoying side effect of booting into a Bir Sur clone for 
> testing, is when I boot back into the interanal drive all the pay cards in 
> the Wallet are disabled. It’s then a non intuitive process to restore them.
> 
> r
> 
> 
>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 7:49 am, Tim Law > <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Ronni,
>> 
>> I've had another read of it after you posted it first. I think I’ll rely on 
>> time machine until the solution is clearer.
>> 
>> Regards
>> Tim
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
>> 
>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 7:35 am, Ronni Brown >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I’m still running High Sierra on my Computers.
>>> Have a read at this link  
>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues 
>>> <https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues>
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 6:57 am, Tim Law >>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Ronni does CCC still work okay with Big Sur?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 5:58 am, Ronni Brown >>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that 
>>>>> decision.
>>>>> There was a reason... ;-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape >>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
>>>>>> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown >>>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues 
>>>>>>> <https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues>
>>>>>>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk 
>>>>>>> Preference Pane
>>>>>>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>>>>>>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR 
>>>>>>> or its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in 
>>>>>>> the Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>>>>>>> awaiting a response.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while 
>>>>>>> holding down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the 
>>>>>>> Startup Manager. When your Mac has completed booting, you can 
>>>>>>> optionally choose to set the startup disk to the current startup volume 
>>>>>>> (i.e. if you want the Mac to always boot from the cloned 

Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Robin Belford]

Dear All,
My experience is 
- following a CCC update last week I now have a bootable Big Sur clone of my 
computer (as well as the two Time Machine backups). This applies to all the 
machines in our house.
- my SuperDuper installations is patiently waiting for an upgrade.

An interesting and annoying side effect of booting into a Bir Sur clone for 
testing, is when I boot back into the interanal drive all the pay cards in the 
Wallet are disabled. It’s then a non intuitive process to restore them.

r


> On 7 Dec 2020, at 7:49 am, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> Thanks Ronni,
> 
> I've had another read of it after you posted it first. I think I’ll rely on 
> time machine until the solution is clearer.
> 
> Regards
> Tim
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2
> 
>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 7:35 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>> I’m still running High Sierra on my Computers.
>> Have a read at this link  
>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues 
>> <https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues>
>> 
>> Kind Regards,
>> Ronni
>> 
>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 6:57 am, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Ronni does CCC still work okay with Big Sur?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 5:58 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that 
>>>> decision.
>>>> There was a reason... ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>> Ronni
>>>> 
>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
>>>>> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown >>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues 
>>>>>> <https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues>
>>>>>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference 
>>>>>> Pane
>>>>>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>>>>>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR 
>>>>>> or its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in 
>>>>>> the Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>>>>>> awaiting a response.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while 
>>>>>> holding down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the 
>>>>>> Startup Manager. When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally 
>>>>>> choose to set the startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if 
>>>>>> you want the Mac to always boot from the cloned volume).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>> Ronni
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape >>>>>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>>>>>>> Are you using something else now then ?
>>>>>>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law >>>>>>> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to 
>>>>>>>> find out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive

Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Tim Law]

Thanks Ronni,

I've had another read of it after you posted it first. I think I’ll rely on 
time machine until the solution is clearer.

Regards
Tim




Sent from Tim's Retina iPad 2

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 7:35 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
> I’m still running High Sierra on my Computers.
> Have a read at this link  
> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 6:57 am, Tim Law  wrote:
>>> 
>> Ronni does CCC still work okay with Big Sur?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Tim's red iPhone 
>> 
>>>> On 7 Dec 2020, at 5:58 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that 
>>> decision.
>>> There was a reason... ;-)
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> Thank you Ronni.
>>>> 
>>>> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
>>>> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen,
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
>>>>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference 
>>>>> Pane
>>>>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>>>>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or 
>>>>> its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the 
>>>>> Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>>>>> awaiting a response.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while 
>>>>> holding down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup 
>>>>> Manager. When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose 
>>>>> to set the startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if you want 
>>>>> the Mac to always boot from the cloned volume).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>>>>>> Are you using something else now then ?
>>>>>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to 
>>>>>>> find out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Tim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>>>>>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time 
>>>>>>>> Machine in the meantime”.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>>>>>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a 
>>>>>>>> Drive locked in my safe.
>>>>>>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>>>>>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>>>>>>> 
>

Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Tim Law]

Ronni does CCC still work okay with Big Sur?



Tim's red iPhone 

> On 7 Dec 2020, at 5:58 am, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> I’ve always used CCC, but I can’t remember the reason why I made that 
> decision.
> There was a reason... ;-)
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 10:21 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> 
>> Thank you Ronni.
>> 
>> Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
>> SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Stephen,
>>> 
>>> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
>>> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference 
>>> Pane
>>> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
>>> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or 
>>> its own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the 
>>> Startup Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
>>> 
>>> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
>>> awaiting a response.
>>> 
>>> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding 
>>> down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. 
>>> When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the 
>>> startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to 
>>> always boot from the cloned volume).
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Kind Regards,
>>> Ronni
>>> 
>>>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>>>> Are you using something else now then ?
>>>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find 
>>>>> out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> Tim
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi folks.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>>>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time 
>>>>>> Machine in the meantime”.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>>>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a 
>>>>>> Drive locked in my safe.
>>>>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>>>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Stephen,

https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference Pane
In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available startup 
volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or its own file 
copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the Startup Disk 
Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.

We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently awaiting 
a response.

Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding down 
the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. When your 
Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the startup disk to 
the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to always boot from the 
cloned volume).



Kind Regards,
Ronni

 Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 


> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> Thanks for that reply Tim.
> Are you using something else now then ?
> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find out 
>> from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>> 
>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Tim
>> 
>> Tim's red iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine 
>>> in the meantime”.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
>>> locked in my safe.
>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>> 
>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Ronni Brown]

Hi Stephen,

https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues
Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference Pane
In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available startup 
volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or its own file 
copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the Startup Disk 
Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.

We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently awaiting 
a response.

Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding down 
the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. When your 
Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the startup disk to 
the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to always boot from the 
cloned volume).



Kind Regards,
Ronni

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> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that reply Tim.
> Are you using something else now then ?
> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
>> 
>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find out 
>> from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>> 
>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Tim
>> 
>> Tim's red iPhone 
>> 
>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>>>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine 
>>> in the meantime”.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
>>> locked in my safe.
>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>> 
>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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> 
> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Stephen Chape]

Thank you Ronni.

Is your preference SuperDuper or CCC ?
SuperDuper seems to get “top of the list” in reviews.

> On 6 Dec 2020, at 6:26 pm, Ronni Brown  wrote:
> 
> Hi Stephen,
> 
> https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues 
> <https://bombich.com/kb/ccc5/macos-big-sur-known-issues>
> Some Big Sur startup volumes don't appear in the Startup Disk Preference Pane
> In the past, the Startup Disk Preference Pane would list all available 
> startup volumes, including volumes cloned by CCC (whether CCC used ASR or its 
> own file copier). Some Big Sur cloned volumes do not appear in the Startup 
> Disk Preference Pane, despite being perfectly bootable.
> 
> We have reported this issue to Apple (FB8889774) and we are currently 
> awaiting a response.
> 
> Workaround: To boot from the cloned volume, restart your Mac while holding 
> down the Option key, then select the cloned volume in the Startup Manager. 
> When your Mac has completed booting, you can optionally choose to set the 
> startup disk to the current startup volume (i.e. if you want the Mac to 
> always boot from the cloned volume).
> 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Ronni
> 
>  Ronni Brown’s iPad Pro 12.9-inch 256GB 
> 
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks for that reply Tim.
>> Are you using something else now then ?
>> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law >> <mailto:t...@peoplehelp.com.au>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find 
>>> out from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>>> 
>>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Tim
>>> 
>>> Tim's red iPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape >>> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi folks.
>>>> 
>>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine 
>>>> in the meantime”.
>>>> 
>>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a 
>>>> Drive locked in my safe.
>>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>>> 
>>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Stephen Chape
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Tim Law]

Nothing new Stephen

Just relying on Time Machine.

Regards

> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:57 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that reply Tim.
> Are you using something else now then ?
> I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law > > wrote:
>> 
>> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find out 
>> from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
>> 
>> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
>> 
>> Regards
>> Tim
>> 
>> Tim's red iPhone 
>> 
>>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> I am finding this frustrating.
>>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine 
>>> in the meantime”.
>>> 
>>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
>>> locked in my safe.
>>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>>> 
>>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Stephen Chape]

Thanks for that reply Tim.
Are you using something else now then ?
I had thought about looking at Carbon Copy Clone.

> On 6 Dec 2020, at 5:26 pm, Tim Law  wrote:
> 
> I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find out 
> from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 
> 
> I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!
> 
> Regards
> Tim
> 
> Tim's red iPhone 
> 
>> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> I am finding this frustrating.
>> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine 
>> in the meantime”.
>> 
>> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
>> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
>> locked in my safe.
>> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
>> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
>> 
>> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Tim Law]

I used to use SuperDuper and was pleased you took the initiative to find out 
from the manufacturer and share the information with us. 

I guess I can use that 1Tb drive for something else now!

Regards
Tim

Tim's red iPhone 

> On 6 Dec 2020, at 4:35 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> I am finding this frustrating.
> I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine in 
> the meantime”.
> 
> Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
> I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
> locked in my safe.
> I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
> And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.
> 
> It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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SuperDuper not compatible with MacOS Big Sur yet ??

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

I am finding this frustrating.
I have emailed Dave at Shirt Pocket only to be told “just use Time Machine in 
the meantime”.

Does anyone else in WAMUG use SuperDuper ?
I use Time Machine, but also use SuperDuper at regular intervals on a Drive 
locked in my safe.
I have not been able to do my 1st December SuperDuper “safe” backup.
And their seems to be not a lot of concern from Shirt Pocket.

It’s like “oh well you will just have to wait”.

Regards,
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SuperDuper with Big Sur !

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

I emailed Shirt Pocket yesterday re compatibility and got this reply today:-

We're working on it.
When we have something to announce it'll be at the blog - 
http://www.shirt-pocket.blog .

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Dave Nanian
Shirt Pocket

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Re: Big Sur ??

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 16 Nov 2020, at 4:54 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> I have had Big Sur installed on my 2017 iMac for about 3 days and no issues 
> so far !!
> 

Reassuring news indeed, seeing that I also have a 2017 iMac  : ). Still gonna 
wait a couple of revisions though...

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Re: Big Sur ??

[Stephen Chape]

I have had Big Sur installed on my 2017 iMac for about 3 days and no issues so 
far !!

> On 16 Nov 2020, at 8:32 am, Robin Belford  wrote:
> 
> For those of you considering updating to Bir Sur.
> 
> https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated
>  
> <https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated>
> 
> Also consider that this only happens to <0.01% of installations and upgrades. 
> Better odds than driving to the shops.
> 
> robin
> 
> 
>> On 16 Nov 2020, at 7:52 am, Peter Hinchliffe > <mailto:hinch...@multiline.com.au>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 13 Nov 2020, at 5:20 pm, Stephen Chape >> <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> The Big Sur macOS 11 upgrade seems to have crept up unnoticed.
>>> Just heard about it from a UK Mac User Group I belong to.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Stephen Chape
>> 
>> Yes, it literally crept in this year, pretty much completely unannounced 
>> (officially) by Apple. I think the first I heard about it was on MacWorld on 
>> Friday morning. The second time I heard anything about it was on Sunday from 
>> a client who went ahead and installed it on his 13” Macbook Pro which is now 
>> unresponsive, so as with all first releases of new Mac OS software, treat 
>> this one with extreme caution, at least for the first couple of releases.
>> 
>> Kind regards,
>> 
>> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
>> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
>> Perth, Western Australia
>> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
>> 
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Re: Big Sur ??

[Robin Belford]

For those of you considering updating to Bir Sur.

https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated
 
<https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated/?utm_source=rss_medium=rss_campaign=macos-big-sur-11-list-of-serious-install-upgrade-issues-updated>

Also consider that this only happens to <0.01% of installations and upgrades. 
Better odds than driving to the shops.

robin


> On 16 Nov 2020, at 7:52 am, Peter Hinchliffe  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 13 Nov 2020, at 5:20 pm, Stephen Chape > <mailto:chap...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi folks.
>> 
>> The Big Sur macOS 11 upgrade seems to have crept up unnoticed.
>> Just heard about it from a UK Mac User Group I belong to.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Stephen Chape
> 
> Yes, it literally crept in this year, pretty much completely unannounced 
> (officially) by Apple. I think the first I heard about it was on MacWorld on 
> Friday morning. The second time I heard anything about it was on Sunday from 
> a client who went ahead and installed it on his 13” Macbook Pro which is now 
> unresponsive, so as with all first releases of new Mac OS software, treat 
> this one with extreme caution, at least for the first couple of releases.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948
> 
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.
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Re: Big Sur ??

[Peter Hinchliffe]

> On 13 Nov 2020, at 5:20 pm, Stephen Chape  wrote:
> 
> Hi folks.
> 
> The Big Sur macOS 11 upgrade seems to have crept up unnoticed.
> Just heard about it from a UK Mac User Group I belong to.
> 
> Regards,
> Stephen Chape

Yes, it literally crept in this year, pretty much completely unannounced 
(officially) by Apple. I think the first I heard about it was on MacWorld on 
Friday morning. The second time I heard anything about it was on Sunday from a 
client who went ahead and installed it on his 13” Macbook Pro which is now 
unresponsive, so as with all first releases of new Mac OS software, treat this 
one with extreme caution, at least for the first couple of releases.

Kind regards,

Peter HinchliffeApwin Computer Services
FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
Perth, Western Australia
Phone (618) 9332 6482Mob 0403 046 948

Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.

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Big Sur ??

[Stephen Chape]

Hi folks.

The Big Sur macOS 11 upgrade seems to have crept up unnoticed.
Just heard about it from a UK Mac User Group I belong to.

Regards,
Stephen Chape






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