[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
> this page was his first attempt at a tableless css-only layout, and > on that basis, i think it's great It is?!?! I thought Matt had been XHTML+CSS for ages now! I stand corrected and applaud Matt for getting his first CSS only version better than anything I churned out for my first 3 months! MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
> Having looked at it hard now (in case I missed a serious revision > or I'm just wrong) I guess what I'm thinking is that the layout > looks a tad haphazrd - master of the universe, perhaps you did not realize, this page was his first attempt at a tableless css-only layout, and on that basis, i think it's great rudy The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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In response to Amanda and a pre-emptive apology to Matt: We've all got our own tastes and I'm not saying the absense of fancy graphics or intricate design makes the site in anyway a lesser piece of development, so sorry if I gave that impression. Having looked at it hard now (in case I missed a serious revision or I'm just wrong) I guess what I'm thinking is that the layout looks a tad haphazrd - the lack of horizontal alignment with the tops of the navigation, body text and testimonals feels wrong. Similarly the visual balance with the flanking boxes is off - having more text in the testimonals than the navigation draws my eye too much to the right so I miss the navigation. IMO even some kind of highlighting and seperation of the flanking columns would help here (border? background colour?), as would differenciation the navigation text from the body text - there is no visual indication that the leftmost text are clickable links. And, as pointed out by others previously, I think a basic list alone is not good content for a home page - contained in an introductory paragraph could be a better bet. But of course we are all bound by our clients' wishes...so if they're happy or that's what they requested then who am I to argue? Well, I would but ultimately bow to their views ;) MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
Something's just wrong. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's just...well...wrong. Looks bland, rushed and maybe even amateurish. I think you might need to rip it all out and start again. There's no arguing with taste, of course, but I have to say it didn't strike me that way ... I can see how it might be taken as bland, but I would have characterized it as more "understated and business-like". Amateurish is certainly not an impression that I got from it. On the contrary, my take was that it looked very professional ... no fancy graphics, no attempts to be avant-garde, no spinning thingies or bright colors, just information about the company cleanly presented. With no offense meant to MOU, I'd say that if your client likes it, then you're about finished with this one. Amanda Birmingham Web Application Developer The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
I'm really not sure about this one Matt... Something's just wrong. Can't quite put my finger on it, but it's just...well...wrong. Looks bland, rushed and maybe even amateurish. I think you might need to rip it all out and start again. If your client it happy with it then I don't think you're painting yourself or them in a good light with this one - rethink time I'd advise (time permitted of course). MOU The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
I think you need to dump it and start all over ... Subject: [wdvltalk] [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 16:42, rudy wrote: > >> "About Us" wraps > > > > Ok, I haven't got a clue about how to solve this. any ideas? > > About Us > > > > This doesn't happen on my windows box running @ 800x600, > > so not sure how to get around this either... > > of course it happens at 800x600 ok, let me rephrase. In Internet Explorer 6.0 running on Windows XP with the favourites bar in place, not maximized, unless I shrink it down to a stupidly narrow window at which I wouldn't expect it to be along side the content anyway, this does not happen on that particular machine. > it will happen at 2000 x 1600 if the window is not maximized > > see above -- "OK, that's cool, I'll get in into my head now! :)" > > not quite there yet, eh Maybe not, however it's difficult to get there when my results seem to be anomalous. Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ "The key to foreign policy is to rely on reliance." George W. Bush November 1, 2000 Quoted from the Washington Post. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
>> liquid design has nothing to do with resolutions, and everything >> to do with how wide the user lets the available browser window be > > OK, that's cool, I'll get in into my head now! :) see below >> "About Us" wraps > > Ok, I haven't got a clue about how to solve this. any ideas? About Us > This doesn't happen on my windows box running @ 800x600, > so not sure how to get around this either... of course it happens at 800x600 it will happen at 2000 x 1600 if the window is not maximized see above -- "OK, that's cool, I'll get in into my head now! :)" not quite there yet, eh ;o) • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
--- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- : Nice idea, I'm just not sure how to do it! :) I empathize. The gazingus scripts are totally object oriented and can be real mind blowsers. I sat around for two days with two other developers just trying to wrap our heads around how in the heck one of his scripts worked. I took a look at how you've implemented it and I'd have to devote some time to trying to think it through, which I don't have at the moment... Maybe someone else can have a look-see? If I do get some extra time today (I'm under a huge deadline) I'll take a look again. Might be a fun lunchtime thing *g*... -Stephen http://www.mechavox.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
Stephen, On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 16:06, Stephen Caudill wrote: > --- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- > > : All, > : > : you've been great so far, please can you take another look at > : http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ > : > : The menu should now be visible in all browsers and it should > : (fingers crossed) scale ok to lower resolutions > > Scales down great :) Might I suggest that the services menu > remain expanded when you are in sub-pages of services? Also, I > think the menu could use *some* styling as well, just to make > it pop out at you a bit more... Nice idea, I'm just not sure how to do it! :) Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ Oh, I always wanted to be a teamster. So lazy and surly. -- Homer Simpson Radioactive Man The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 16:02, rudy wrote: > > you've been great so far, please can you take another look at > > http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ > > > > The menu should now be visible in all browsers and it should (fingers > > crossed) scale ok to lower resolutions > > matt, you've got to stop talking about resolutions, and start talking about > browser window widths > > liquid design has nothing to do with resolutions, and everything to do with > how wide the user lets the available browser window be OK, that's cool, I'll get in into my head now! :) > > here's a thought experiment > > open internet explorer, maximize it if it isn't already maximized, and then > press ctrl-i > > i know several people who insist on having their favourites always present > like that > > the ICT logo drops underneath the bubbles This I do not mind so much, nor does the client. It is still on the page, and does not look too bad. > "About Us" wraps Ok, I haven't got a clue about how to solve this. any ideas? > the testimonial quotes drop below the main copy (this last is actually not > bad, it's better than a horizontal scrollbar) This doesn't happen on my windows box running @ 800x600, so not sure how to get around this either... Cheers, Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ I can't believe I ate the whole thing. -- Homer Simpson The Front The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
--- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- : All, : : you've been great so far, please can you take another look at : http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ : : The menu should now be visible in all browsers and it should : (fingers crossed) scale ok to lower resolutions Scales down great :) Might I suggest that the services menu remain expanded when you are in sub-pages of services? Also, I think the menu could use *some* styling as well, just to make it pop out at you a bit more... I think it's a great improvement, though. Good Job :) -Stephen http://www.mechavox.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
> you've been great so far, please can you take another look at > http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ > > The menu should now be visible in all browsers and it should (fingers > crossed) scale ok to lower resolutions matt, you've got to stop talking about resolutions, and start talking about browser window widths liquid design has nothing to do with resolutions, and everything to do with how wide the user lets the available browser window be here's a thought experiment open internet explorer, maximize it if it isn't already maximized, and then press ctrl-i i know several people who insist on having their favourites always present like that the ICT logo drops underneath the bubbles "About Us" wraps the testimonial quotes drop below the main copy (this last is actually not bad, it's better than a horizontal scrollbar) best regards rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
--- Cheryl D. Wise wrote: --- : Do you have the auto image resize turned on? I couldn't get it : that small because of the large bubble image at the top? Not before there was scroll, before the floats fished out. -Stephen http://www.mechavox.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Do you have the auto image resize turned on? I couldn't get it that small because of the large bubble image at the top? Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713.353.0139 Office -Original Message- From: Stephen Caudill 1018px is the minimum width from chrome to chrome on my browser before the quotes duck below the content. Cheryl did a mockup for you yesterday that resized on my browser down to ~400px or less, you should check it out. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
--- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- : I was doing it because it seemed easier than Javascript, mine's a : bit rusty... :) : :: - try the lovely, degradable XHTML, CSS and extremely ::clever javascript menu from gazingus.org[1] : : Now installed and looking good... :) Would love to see it :) :: - Your floats float away at reasonable widths. No one with ::800x600 will see the site as you intend. : : this is an interesting one, I'm currently using % as the limiter : and I was under the impression that this would solve this issue. : Any pointers as to what to use instead? 1018px is the minimum width from chrome to chrome on my browser before the quotes duck below the content. Cheryl did a mockup for you yesterday that resized on my browser down to ~400px or less, you should check it out. Let us know when you get the updates posted :) -Stephen http://www.mechavox.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
--- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- : All, : : Please take a look at http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ and let : me know what you think. : : There seems to be a weird thing in IE on the work computer where : "Government Bids" doesn't show up properly. : : Can someone confirm this for me? Nope, shows up fine in IE6, win2k pro for me. Here's the unsolicited bit: - I don't like your CSS drop down menu. - It's *very* difficult for me to mouseover sub-items. If I can't get it on the first whack or two, I'm not trying anymore. - There's no good reason to do this in CSS alone. If you're doing it "just because you can", you do so at your clients expense. - try the lovely, degradable XHTML, CSS and extremely clever javascript menu from gazingus.org[1] - With a white background on the submenu and no borders, it blends in completely with the background of the page and is easy to overlook, as will also likely happen with your viewers with poor eyesite. - "An unordered list does not homepage content make." - Your floats float away at reasonable widths. No one with 800x600 will see the site as you intend. - Why does the lowly "text only" link occupy a div that takes up the whole width of some of the most valuable screen real estate: the top right. Natural reading patterns put that first. Is that what you first want your viewers eyes on? - further to that, why do you have a text only version at all? CSS will take care of that sort of thing if you let it. - You have: - 15px padding - 25px tall div with "text only" in it - 120px worth of graphic header - 50px margin/padding between header and content - weighing in at: 210px at the top of the page before anything significant to the user comes up. - Is the menu vertically aligned to anything? It strikes me as being placed haphazardly. hth, Stephen Caudill http://www.mechavox.com/ [1] http://gazingus.org/html/menuDropdown.html The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
- Original Message - From: "Matthew Macdonald-Wallace" > Please take a look at http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ and let me > know what you think. I'm using IE6 SP1 on Win98 and I only see a menu with Home, About Us, Services and Clients. And although the source says there is a sub menu on Services I can't see it. Should there be any hover effect on the links? because they don't change at all when mouseing over. Incidentally I meant to tell you this before:- when I see a menu like that, I assume I am meant to click on the buttons rather than the text. To avoid confusing people like me you might make links on the buttons as well as the link text... Plus, as well, on top of that, the buttons haven't come out too well, instead of miniatures of the main logo (which I assume they should be) they look rather like orange car indicators and look like they ought to be flashing :o) Maybe a little editing to get plain blue all round them or something? Bj • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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This shows up in IE, but not Mozilla: "Brilliant at keeping an audience alive" John Peel - Board Member South East England Development Agency "They take a problem and make the solution happen" Manny Gatt - Chief Executive Business Link Nottingham Erik -Original Message- From: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 11:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [wdvltalk] [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ All, Please take a look at http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ and let me know what you think. There seems to be a weird thing in IE on the work computer where "Government Bids" doesn't show up properly. Can someone confirm this for me? TIA, Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ "Put the off button on." George W. Bush February 14, 2000 Advice to parents who have concerns about violence on television. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to %%email.unsub%% To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Removing the prolog won't invalidate xhtml. Your page will likely be served as text/html and not application/xhtml+xml. So arguably it will actually improve the page. The overflow goes on the container not the img tag. Not in the office so I can't give you the url to look at but its hebig's url. Someone else here may have it. Otherwise I can provide and example tomorrow or much later today. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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No, it isn't necessary not even for xhtml strict as long as you have the character info in a meta tag as Drew says. It is only necessary if it is true xml. Here's a list of browsers that have problems with the xml prolog http://www.webstandards.org/learn/reference/prolog_problems.html Zeldman has an article on doctypes at http://www.alistapart.com/articles/doctype/ that might be helpful. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713.353.0139 Office -Original Message- From: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Ta for having a look, On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt, I still see the xml prolog. You need to remove that since it > throws > ie6 into quirks mode. Put the charset in a meta tag. Won't this invalidate the xhtml? > No scroll on ie6, win2k server until you get down to the logo image size. Not sure what you mean by this, could just be my is fried... :) > Incidently, if you add overflow:hidden to the image container it will > hide the excess image when the screen size shrinks. k, is that the that the image is in, or the actual tag itself? > Otherwise looks fine. And as rudy said, most impressive for a first try. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Drew, Ta for having a look, On Thu, 2004-01-08 at 15:59, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Matt, I still see the xml prolog. You need to remove that since it throws > ie6 into quirks mode. Put the charset in a meta tag. Won't this invalidate the xhtml? > No scroll on ie6, win2k server until you get down to the logo image size. Not sure what you mean by this, could just be my is fried... :) > Incidently, if you add overflow:hidden to the image container it will hide > the excess image when the screen size shrinks. k, is that the that the image is in, or the actual tag itself? > Otherwise looks fine. And as rudy said, most impressive for a first try. Thanks! Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ When will I learn? The answers to life's problems aren't at the bottom of a bottle. They're on TV! -- Homer Simpson There's No Disgrace Like Home The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/
Matt, I still see the xml prolog. You need to remove that since it throws ie6 into quirks mode. Put the charset in a meta tag. No scroll on ie6, win2k server until you get down to the logo image size. Incidently, if you add overflow:hidden to the image container it will hide the excess image when the screen size shrinks. Otherwise looks fine. And as rudy said, most impressive for a first try. drew The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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Works well in all the browsers I tested with IE 6, Opera 7.21, Mozilla, NN 4.x. Note that in NN 4.x resizing is slow but does eventually happen. If you have many NN 4.x visitor, especially those with earlier versions you might want to put in the Netscape resize fix. While I like simple, it might be just a bit too simple. A bit more color might make it feel a bit less plain Jane. Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer MS-MVP-FrontPage www.wiserways.com mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 713.353.0139 Office -Original Message- From: Matthew Macdonald-Wallace Please can you take a look at http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/ and let me know what you think? In theory, it is a fluid layout (I think I'm starting to get the hang of css!) and table-less. :) All answers on the back of postcard to the usual address... :) TIA, Matt -- The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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KoaFar, On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 18:47, K.F. Wu wrote: > At 08:18 AM 1/7/2004, Matt wrote: > >I'm currently writing the CSS for the xhtml to display it properly, as a > >liquid layout. (/me doesn't do tables anymore!) > > Since the page is just an png image file, not an html, I have no way to > review your code (Nice-view page though). But I noticed that you seemed > have some perfect way to make a liquid layout for image combined with text. > I am setting a project to this kind of page layout and certainly would > appreciate some example code or tips for learning. Would you mind sharing > your original html (or xhtml) code of the page? Thanks (ps: is it > possible using tables to achieve the same liquid layout effect?) Sorry to disappoint, but the code hasn't been written yet, that was just so people could comment on the look of the page. As soon as the code is written, I'll post a few bits here, or repost the URL Cheers, Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ "I don't know, maybe I made it up. Anyway, it's an arbo-tree-ist, somebody who knows about trees." George W. Bush August 2001 Referring to the "arbolist" who had been engaged to identify trees on the President's Crawford, TX ranch. Quoted in USA Today and Time magazine. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
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At 08:18 AM 1/7/2004, Matt wrote: I'm currently writing the CSS for the xhtml to display it properly, as a liquid layout. (/me doesn't do tables anymore!) Since the page is just an png image file, not an html, I have no way to review your code (Nice-view page though). But I noticed that you seemed have some perfect way to make a liquid layout for image combined with text. I am setting a project to this kind of page layout and certainly would appreciate some example code or tips for learning. Would you mind sharing your original html (or xhtml) code of the page? Thanks (ps: is it possible using tables to achieve the same liquid layout effect?) KoaFar The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png
On Wed, 2004-01-07 at 16:04, rudy wrote: > > This is the first attempt at the new site: > > > > http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png > > it is nice and simple (which is *very* important in my book) > > and rather easy to make liquid ;o) > > the previous version did have a bunch of icons in the main body area, are > you planning to do away with those? because they are normal fare for a home > page, whereas a great block of text such as in your mockup is not The icons will be going, and they will be replaced with text, but nowhere near as much as is there at the moment. I'm currently writing the CSS for the xhtml to display it properly, as a liquid layout. (/me doesn't do tables anymore!) Thanks for the comments, Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ "This is what I'm good at. I like meeting people, my fellow citizens. I like interfacing with them." George W. Bush September 8, 2000 Comment made at campaign stop in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png
> This is the first attempt at the new site: > > http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png it is nice and simple (which is *very* important in my book) and rather easy to make liquid ;o) the previous version did have a bunch of icons in the main body area, are you planning to do away with those? because they are normal fare for a home page, whereas a great block of text such as in your mockup is not rudy • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] RE: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png
--- Matthew Macdonald-Wallace wrote: --- : All, : : This is the first attempt at the new site: : : http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png : : Please note that this is purely an image for mock-up purposes. : : To give you a comparison, the old site (not designed by me!) is : here: : : http://www.ictstrategies.com/ : : TIA, : : Matt Matt, I like it. Certainly an improvement over the current version. My suggestions would be: - Bring a dominant color into play (they were using a blue) - If the body is fixed width, have something that stretches the width of the screen (maybe a header with the dominant color) - The navigation could be a bit more distinctive - Area Title should be an H1, no? hth, Stephen Caudill http://www.mechavox.com/ The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
[wdvltalk] Re: [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png
Matt, At 1024 resolution it looks great, a lot cleaner than the previous version. One concern might be that you are losing a lot of space at the top of the screen with the corporate identity stuff. It takes up about a third on 800 by 600 and you also have a vertical scroll, but I assume that's just because of the image size you're prototyping with. HTH, John. Matthew Macdonald-WallaceTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: dom.org.uk> Subject: [wdvltalk] [SCR] http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png 07/01/2004 15:42 Please respond to wdvltalk All, This is the first attempt at the new site: http://www.interactwiththe.net/ict/mainPage.png Please note that this is purely an image for mock-up purposes. To give you a comparison, the old site (not designed by me!) is here: http://www.ictstrategies.com/ TIA, Matt -- +--+ |Matthew Macdonald-Wallace | |The Truth Will Set you Free | |http://www.truthisfreedom.org.uk/ | +--+ "The point is, is that I want America to lead the nation---lead the world--- toward a more safe world when it comes to nuclear weaponry." George W. Bush January 27, 2000 Quoted in the New York Times. ? The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM ? To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com ___ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with. john.f.hughes Goodbody Stockbrokers Private Clients Ballsbridge Park + 353 1 6416048 This information is confidential and may be privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this e-mail by any other person (except any person authorised by the addressee to deliver this message to him and only for that purpose) is unauthorised. If you are not the addressee you are prohibited from disclosing its content, copying it or distributing it otherwise than to the addressee. Please notify us immediately if you received this e-mail and you are not the addressee and did not receive it to pass to the addressee. If you are not the addressee of this e-mail you should not place any reliance on its contents. If you e-mail information to us or receive e-mail from us you should be aware that we cannot give any assurance about the security or confidentiality of any e-mail. We cannot accept responsibility for any loss which may arise to any person as a direct or indirect result of all or any part of any e-mail becoming known by anyone other than the recipient. This Disclaimer has been generated by CMDis The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub http://www.wdvl.com
