[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-27 Thread Stephen Caudill
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey, I'm a delurking pseudo newbie.  Ages ago I made a website using
 my newfound knowledge of html and minimal perl.  I now have a domain
 name and have a plan.  Only to find I'm so incredibly still a newbie
 that I probably will need some answers to all the questions I might
 have to ask. There must be more like me out there.
 
 (contributer to the Internet web traffic)

Welcome,
  I think a lot of us got our start like you, lurking on this very list for quite some 
while and quietly tinkering on projects, I know I did.  So please, fire away, and we 
will all try to help.

-Stephen Caudill

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Jan Major
Hi Dave,
I've been so very busy, I haven't even been reading the
digest until now.  You're right, the list is non active!
I like Rudy's response:
 What's happenning?

 we've solved all the problems

I haven't.  ;o)

Jan
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Subject: Re: List down?
From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:26:22 +
X-Message-Number: 2

Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the list 
alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!

If  my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL.

Dave P
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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja
lol... there is always more questions than anwers ;) maybe more about life,
the universe and everything...

i don't think we get as many newbies as we used to in the good old days of
the internet boom... life also became more serious, just work work work...
*sigh* and most companies don't want to be on the edge... 

Sonja

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From: Jan Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2003 10:56 AM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


Hi Dave,
I've been so very busy, I haven't even been reading the
digest until now.  You're right, the list is non active!
I like Rudy's response:

  What's happenning?

  we've solved all the problems

I haven't.  ;o)

Jan
---


 Subject: Re: List down?
 From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:26:22 +
 X-Message-Number: 2
 

 Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the
list 
 alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!
 
 If  my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL.
 
 Dave P

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Larue
The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge
than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need knowledge of
design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi media and so
on... And to make things more complicated, you should also ALWAYS consider
different platforms, versions, OS etc...

But hey, all those fields and no questions? AFAIK there should MORE
questions now. strange...

Paul

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From: Van Der Westhuizen, Sonja [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 1:08 AM
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Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


lol... there is always more questions than anwers ;) maybe more about life,
the universe and everything...

i don't think we get as many newbies as we used to in the good old days of
the internet boom... life also became more serious, just work work work...
*sigh* and most companies don't want to be on the edge...

Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Jan Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2003 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


Hi Dave,
I've been so very busy, I haven't even been reading the
digest until now.  You're right, the list is non active!
I like Rudy's response:

  What's happenning?

  we've solved all the problems

I haven't.  ;o)

Jan
---


 Subject: Re: List down?
 From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:26:22 +
 X-Message-Number: 2


 Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the
list
 alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!

 If  my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL.

 Dave P

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread edc
Naah it is just that we are all suffering from so much information overload
that we don't know enough to know that we should ask qestions, or if we do
we don't know the right ones to ask
Michael Ensor
www.WellingtonLive.co.nz
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Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:25 AM
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


 The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge
 than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need knowledge of
 design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi media and
so
 on... And to make things more complicated, you should also ALWAYS consider
 different platforms, versions, OS etc...

 But hey, all those fields and no questions? AFAIK there should MORE
 questions now. strange...

 Paul




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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious

Hi Paul,

On Wednesday 26 March 2003 9:25 pm, Paul Larue wrote:
 The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields of knowledge
 than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need knowledge of
 design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi media and
 so on... And to make things more complicated, you should also ALWAYS
 consider different platforms, versions, OS etc...

That's too true.  At work I do HTML development, Perl and PHP coding, MySQL 
admin, reports (written in Perl), email runs, etc.  I'm basically doing Web 
Development and MIS work.  On top of that, I administer our Linux webserver, 
backup webserver, development server, web database server, a machine that 
runs automatic ADSL availability checks, and a few others.

Kinda explains why I've been so busy lately :o)   Think it'll be time to 
demand another pay rise soon!


 But hey, all those fields and no questions? AFAIK there should MORE
 questions now. strange...

True.  I often find though, when I need an answer to a problem I've got at 
work, I don't have time to post to the list then wait for a response, they 
need it completed yesterday, so I have to try to solve it immediately.  A 
good way to learn I suppose.


Dave P


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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Trusz, Andrew
This is not the edge. We're very midling.

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Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


lol... there is always more questions than anwers ;) maybe more about life,
the universe and everything...

i don't think we get as many newbies as we used to in the good old days of
the internet boom... life also became more serious, just work work work...
*sigh* and most companies don't want to be on the edge... 

Sonja

-Original Message-
From: Jan Major [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 26 March 2003 10:56 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?


Hi Dave,
I've been so very busy, I haven't even been reading the
digest until now.  You're right, the list is non active!
I like Rudy's response:

  What's happenning?

  we've solved all the problems

I haven't.  ;o)

Jan
---


 Subject: Re: List down?
 From: David Precious [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 01:26:22 +
 X-Message-Number: 2
 

 Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the
list 
 alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!
 
 If  my net access is still like this tomorrow, maybe I'll get hold of NTL.
 
 Dave P

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Paul Larue
Hi David,
You know how they call that need it yesterday stuff here? They call it the
*philosophy of now-ism*... I run away when I hear that!! True that when you
got s much to look after and to do, you don't really have time to wait
for a lits member to answer. But I'm sure if some people start sending osts
and wait for others to answer, this will liven up the list and gradually
increase the number of [interesting] posts to the list...

Paul

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 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:05 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: List down?



 Hi Paul,

 On Wednesday 26 March 2003 9:25 pm, Paul Larue wrote:
  The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more fields
 of knowledge
  than for any *normal* job. To be good in this domain you need
 knowledge of
  design, server admin, coding, app programming, databases, multi
 media and
  so on... And to make things more complicated, you should also ALWAYS
  consider different platforms, versions, OS etc...

 That's too true.  At work I do HTML development, Perl and PHP
 coding, MySQL
 admin, reports (written in Perl), email runs, etc.  I'm basically
 doing Web
 Development and MIS work.  On top of that, I administer our Linux
 webserver,
 backup webserver, development server, web database server, a machine that
 runs automatic ADSL availability checks, and a few others.

 Kinda explains why I've been so busy lately :o)   Think it'll be time to
 demand another pay rise soon!


  But hey, all those fields and no questions? AFAIK there should MORE
  questions now. strange...

 True.  I often find though, when I need an answer to a problem
 I've got at
 work, I don't have time to post to the list then wait for a
 response, they
 need it completed yesterday, so I have to try to solve it
 immediately.  A
 good way to learn I suppose.


 Dave P


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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread David Precious

Hi Paul,

 You know how they call that need it yesterday stuff here? They call it
 the *philosophy of now-ism*... I run away when I hear that!! 

By any name, it's a scary concept.  Management decide they need something now, 
without thinking about how long it'll take to develop, and without thinking 
that maybe you're working on something else important already. Even if they 
know they'll be needing something well in advance, they like to tell you 
about it the day before.  I hate it.

 True that when
 you got s much to look after and to do, you don't really have time to
 wait for a lits member to answer. But I'm sure if some people start sending
 osts and wait for others to answer, this will liven up the list and
 gradually increase the number of [interesting] posts to the list...

True enough.  It's amazing how much the list woke up just because people 
started posting the normal is anyone here kind of wake-up email!

I'm on the list for a little while this morning, but I won't be for the rest 
of the day - it's my fiancee's 22nd birthday today, so we'll be going out for 
a good few drinks to celebrate :o)

Regards

Dave P

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Diane Schips
Sounds good to me.  Anyone know of a good hydroponics system?

Just kidding (mostly)

Diane

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Yeah, it seems we've all been promoted from the rank of websters to the one
of webmasters! ;)
Nobody needs help! May be we should extend wdvl's advices to other domains.
Cash registers, Mechanical Engineering or hydroponic yielding of tomatoes?

Any clues?

Paul

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 What's happenning?

we've solved all the problems


;o)

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread Jon Haworth
Hi Paul,

 The fact is that we are nowadays required to have more 
 fields of knowledge than for any *normal* job. 

Joel's done a good article about this:
http://joelonsoftware.com/articles/LordPalmerston.html

quote
Lord Palmerston: The Schleswig-Holstein question is so complicated, only
three men in Europe have ever understood it. One was Prince Albert, who is
dead. The second was a German professor who became mad. I am the third and I
have forgotten all about it. Programming has gotten too hard.
/quote

Cheers
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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-26 Thread carlsens
Hey, I'm a delurking pseudo newbie.  Ages ago I made a website using my
newfound knowledge of html and minimal perl.  I now have a domain name and
have a plan.  Only to find I'm so incredibly still a newbie that I
probably will need some answers to all the questions I might have to ask. 
There must be more like me out there.

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-25 Thread Olya_Finnegan


Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the
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alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!


i can see you :-)

good luck in CS!

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Larue
Boy, I'm on wdvl for about 4 years now. I left for some reasons about a year
ago and been back since 2/3 months now. In  the good ol' days I was
receiving about 75-100 messages per day from wdvl now that's barely 10 times
less...

What's happenning?

Paul

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Please could someone respond just to confirm that I'm getting out on the
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alright - I've only just subscribed my home address!


i can see you :-)

good luck in CS!

Olya
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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-25 Thread rudy
 What's happenning?

we've solved all the problems


;o)

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[wdvltalk] Re: List down?

2003-03-25 Thread Paul Larue
Yeah, it seems we've all been promoted from the rank of websters to the one
of webmasters! ;)
Nobody needs help! May be we should extend wdvl's advices to other domains.
Cash registers, Mechanical Engineering or hydroponic yielding of tomatoes?

Any clues?

Paul

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 What's happenning?

we've solved all the problems


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