[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Another suggestion for learning is Python Koans - based on Ruby Koans - basically an interactive way to learn and test code by writing short lines of code. https://bitbucket.org/gregmalcolm/python_koans/wiki/Home Check them out! On Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:34:08 PM UTC-8, newbie wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to learn Web2py but know nothing about programming. I'm > convinced it's the best language out there so I don't want to waste > time learning something that would not be applicable if I ended up > using Web2py (PHP, etc). Do I need to learn Javascript first? Do I > need to know HTML? I would eventually like to learn how to build > database driven websites. > > Thanks
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Hi Newbie, If you think you'll stick around it would be good to have your real name somewhere. Here is a book on Python that has gotten a lot of attention recently. It starts you from the very beginning. http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ On Thursday, February 23, 2012 12:34:08 PM UTC-8, newbie wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to learn Web2py but know nothing about programming. I'm > convinced it's the best language out there so I don't want to waste > time learning something that would not be applicable if I ended up > using Web2py (PHP, etc). Do I need to learn Javascript first? Do I > need to know HTML? I would eventually like to learn how to build > database driven websites. > > Thanks
Re: [web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Massimo is a nice guy! 2012/2/24 newbie : > Thank you all so much for your responses and recommendations. I will > give those a try. Massimo, keep up the great work and thank you for > taking the time to help. I look forward to the video tutorial. > > On Feb 23, 10:20 pm, pbreit wrote: >> W3schools is perfectly fine. That fools thing is a little overblown. -- Carlos J. Costa Cientista da Computação Esp. Gestão em Telecom EL MELECH NEEMAN! אָמֵן
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Thank you all so much for your responses and recommendations. I will give those a try. Massimo, keep up the great work and thank you for taking the time to help. I look forward to the video tutorial. On Feb 23, 10:20 pm, pbreit wrote: > W3schools is perfectly fine. That fools thing is a little overblown.
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
W3schools is perfectly fine. That fools thing is a little overblown.
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Thanks for pointing that out, Chris. One nice feature of w3schools is the "try it" functionality that let's you play around with some code and see the results, though you can also do that with tools like http://jsfiddle.net/. Anthony On Thursday, February 23, 2012 6:38:50 PM UTC-5, Chris May wrote: > > One caveat: > > While I agree that w3schools is a helpful resource (as I use it as a > regular reference), their examples do not promote best practices, most > notably absent is unobtrusive JavaScript. I had to *unlearn much *of what > I read on there. > > For more information and better resources, include http://w3fools.com/ in > your list. >
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
One caveat: While I agree that w3schools is a helpful resource (as I use it as a regular reference), their examples do not promote best practices, most notably absent is unobtrusive JavaScript. I had to *unlearn much *of what I read on there. For more information and better resources, include http://w3fools.com/ in your list.
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
How about: 1) - Download and install the framework (and python) 2) - Read first few chapters of the manual (you might want to invest $10 in the pdf manual and print off a few chapters for offline review) - Sometimes it's easier to concentrate w/out having a terminal to distract you). Try to get the general idea of the MVC pattern in your mind early on - that will help a lot when you start to dissect things later. 3) - Sit down with the manual and just type in the examples in the docs. Then run them - make sure they work- don't try to understand everything early on - you'll be surprised at how much sticks just by entering the code - even if you copy it from a book) - Seeing something working also whets the appetite. 4) Play around with your working simple/sample apps - break them, make a few deliberate mistakes and see what errors you get - this is good practice. You'll see plenty more in the future - so it helps to recognize some of the symptoms early on. You'll also see the benefits of the excellent ticketing system and admin in web2py, and it's something you'll miss if you try a different framework. 5) Download and check out some of the online apps or plugins and review the code - reading good code is a great learning exercise. 6) Ask questions on this helpful forum - when you climb the learning curve come back here and help others That should keep you busy for a few days/weeks. Also keep in mind that a lot of what youlearn will be useful in the future - even if you decide to learn another web framework. (MVC. CSS, SQL etc are common across many web frameworks). Web2py however, is one of the more approachable ones with a gently learning curve. Hope this helps, BrendanC
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
If you are patient, you might be able to learn enough programming by downloading Web2y and following web2py.com/book. It includes a brief overview of Python which is a great language for newbies. The "Overview" in the book provides the exact code that you can type in to Web2py files to run good applications. You don't need to learn JavaScript but do need some HTML. Don't be afraid to read the code in the Welcome and Examples applications and even copy/paste.
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
Massimo, You are incredible!! On 23 Feb, 21:51, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: ...You pose an interesting challenge.I think it can be done...It may take a couple of week. remind me if necessary > > Meanwhile you can take a more traditional approach: > 1) learn to program using > python:http://www.udemy.com/learning-python-not-the-snake/ > 2) learn web2py (chapters 2 and 3 of the online book,http://web2py.com/book) > > Massimo > > On Feb 23, 2:34 pm, newbie wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > I would like to learn Web2py but know nothing about programming. I'm > > convinced it's the best language out there so I don't want to waste > > time learning something that would not be applicable if I ended up > > using Web2py (PHP, etc). Do I need to learn Javascript first? Do I > > need to know HTML? I would eventually like to learn how to build > > database driven websites. > > > Thanks
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
> > Eventually, you will want to get deeper into Python, and there are plenty > of online resources for that. > For example: http://wiki.python.org/moin/BeginnersGuide/NonProgrammers
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
On Thursday, February 23, 2012 3:34:08 PM UTC-5, newbie wrote: > > Hello, > > I would like to learn Web2py but know nothing about programming. I'm > convinced it's the best language out there so I don't want to waste > time learning something that would not be applicable if I ended up > using Web2py (PHP, etc). Do I need to learn Javascript first? Do I > need to know HTML? I would eventually like to learn how to build > database driven websites. > I would say go ahead and just get started with the web2py book. Eventually, you will want to get deeper into Python, and there are plenty of online resources for that. You'll also want to learn HTML, CSS, and at least some Javascript (including jQuery) -- a good starting point for that stuff is http://www.w3schools.com/. For web2py learning, also check out some of the other resources linked from the website, such as http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5E2E223FE3777851, http://killer-web-development.com/, and http://web2py.com/examples/default/documentation. Anthony
[web2py] Re: I would like to learn Web2py but where do I start?
You pose an interesting challenge. Learn to use web2py without knowing how to program I think it can be done. I will try record a video tutorial for you. It may take a couple of week. remind me if necessary. Meanwhile you can take a more traditional approach: 1) learn to program using python: http://www.udemy.com/learning-python-not-the-snake/ 2) learn web2py (chapters 2 and 3 of the online book, http://web2py.com/book) Massimo On Feb 23, 2:34 pm, newbie wrote: > Hello, > > I would like to learn Web2py but know nothing about programming. I'm > convinced it's the best language out there so I don't want to waste > time learning something that would not be applicable if I ended up > using Web2py (PHP, etc). Do I need to learn Javascript first? Do I > need to know HTML? I would eventually like to learn how to build > database driven websites. > > Thanks
