date:20091110


/etc/hosts:

# Do not remove the following line, or various programs
# that require network functionality will fail.
127.0.0.1   localhost localhost.localdomain localhost
::1 localhost6.localdomain6 localhost6

Does there need to be a specific entry here for 192.168.1.10? (server  
ip address)


SiteConfig.xml:




UNIX
192.168.1.10



followed by entries for the two apps I have added in, followed by:


YESviewRefreshEnabled>

/app/WebObjects
60





On Nov 11, 2009, at 6:35 AM, Cheong Hee (Gmail) wrote:

Hi David

What is your /etc/hosts file and SiteConfig.xml look like?  May be it  
is IP address issue.


Cheers

Cheong Hee


Yes, as I said, I can run it from the command line (as appserver) and
it runs fine.  I can access it on the specified port no problem.  The
app operates as it should.  It just refuses to start from
JavaMonitor.  I also added JavaMonitor in there to see would it start
but got the same result.  No start, no log.

Does the Logs folder is writable by the appserver user? Try to write a
file manually in there (eg : touch /opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs/
somefilename.txt).

>
Regards,
David.



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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

2009-11-10 Thread Lachlan Deck


On 11/11/2009, at 4:52 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Actually it's method I defined in my custom WOComponent that all my  
other WOComponents inherit from.


   public Session Session() {
   return (Session)super.session();
   }

Don't ask me why I capitalized it.


I _do_ understand why you capitalised it prior to java1.5 (many people  
used mySession() for such things). But nowadays just do this:


@Override
public Session session() {
return (Session)super.session();
}

That way you won't have two methods available for auto-completion in  
your components that do the same thing -- and it's just the right  
thing to do, not to mention dumping a non-standard naming convention :).


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Re: JSON and WebObjects

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Lindesay

Hello Don;

The framework will deal with EO serialisation for you.  Watch the WOWODC-2009 
video on this subject and check out the sample code which was shown in the 
video;


http://homepage.mac.com/andrewlindesay/le/downloads/JSONRPCHandsOn-SessionCode-1sep2009.zip

I think John Lennard is doing some foo like this at the moment... John?

cheers.

> I am wanting to pass EO Objects back and forth to an AJAX web application.  
> We have a need where the entire front wend web application will be designed 
> by graphics designers, no developers involved, then it will be turned over to 
> the Developers to make sure all the bits are filled in.  (management's words 
> not mine).  But the developers cannot modify the design.
> The way I expected would be the easiest to implement would be to use JSON and 
> AJAX, to receive objects to populate the interface.

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

Actually it's method I defined in my custom WOComponent that all my  
other WOComponents inherit from.


public Session Session() {
   return (Session)super.session();
}

Don't ask me why I capitalized it.

Jeff

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:47 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:


Session() returns the session object,


I should have been more specific:
- why does it have a capital-letter prefix? Is that a mistyped email  
(i.e., you meant to type session() rather than Session()).
- or do you have some static method that figures out the current  
session somehow?


called from within appendToResponse in my WOComponent.  They return  
the name of the current pool.  That part seems to be working as I  
can see the cookie is getting set in the browser.


ok.


It just never gets returned to me.


Do what chuck suggests .. log out the headers.


On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies  
working, and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a  
brand new dev machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.   
Everything is running great through apache, with DirectConnect  
Disabled and a nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
  	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved  
under host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it  
in wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

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--

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

2009-11-10 Thread Lachlan Deck


On 11/11/2009, at 4:36 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:


Session() returns the session object,


I should have been more specific:
- why does it have a capital-letter prefix? Is that a mistyped email  
(i.e., you meant to type session() rather than Session()).
- or do you have some static method that figures out the current  
session somehow?


called from within appendToResponse in my WOComponent.  They return  
the name of the current pool.  That part seems to be working as I  
can see the cookie is getting set in the browser.


ok.


It just never gets returned to me.


Do what chuck suggests .. log out the headers.


On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a  
nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
   	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL", Session 
().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved  
under host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String) this.request().cookieValueForKey 
("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

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--

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

That didn't take long.  It's the last flag for the cookie  
constructor.  Need to set it false.


Thanks again for the help.

Jeff

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Yes, beat me by about a minute.  I just noticed the security column  
was checked for that cookie in the browser.  Now I just have to  
figure out why it's making it secure.


Thanks!
Jeff

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies  
working, and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a  
brand new dev machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.   
Everything is running great through apache, with DirectConnect  
Disabled and a nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
  	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);


erm.  Look at that last param.  isSecure.  That does not mean  
"Yeah, I think some security would be nice!"  It means, only send  
this cookie over an HTTPS connection.  I will be guessing that you  
are using just HTTP for testing.


Do I win?


Chuck



  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved  
under host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it  
in wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

with regards,
--

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

Yes, beat me by about a minute.  I just noticed the security column  
was checked for that cookie in the browser.  Now I just have to figure  
out why it's making it secure.


Thanks!
Jeff

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:37 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a  
nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
   	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);


erm.  Look at that last param.  isSecure.  That does not mean "Yeah,  
I think some security would be nice!"  It means, only send this  
cookie over an HTTPS connection.  I will be guessing that you are  
using just HTTP for testing.


Do I win?


Chuck



  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved  
under host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck


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overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific  
problems.

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:31 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a  
nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);


erm.  Look at that last param.  isSecure.  That does not mean "Yeah, I  
think some security would be nice!"  It means, only send this cookie  
over an HTTPS connection.  I will be guessing that you are using just  
HTTP for testing.


Do I win?


Chuck



  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved  
under host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

with regards,
--

Lachlan Deck


--
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Practical WebObjects - for developers who want to increase their  
overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific  
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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

2009-11-10 Thread Cheong Hee (Gmail)


Hi David

What is your /etc/hosts file and SiteConfig.xml look like?  May be it is IP 
address issue.


Cheers

Cheong Hee


Yes, as I said, I can run it from the command line (as appserver) and
it runs fine.  I can access it on the specified port no problem.  The
app operates as it should.  It just refuses to start from
JavaMonitor.  I also added JavaMonitor in there to see would it start
but got the same result.  No start, no log.

Does the Logs folder is writable by the appserver user? Try to write a
file manually in there (eg : touch /opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs/
somefilename.txt).

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Regards,
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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

Nope, not there (see below).  But this is interesting.  I used Safari  
this time, and it shows 2 cookies for localhost, jforumUserId=49 which  
is in the headers, and POOL=BIG, which is not.  Why would one get  
passed on, and not the other.  Both have expiration dates in 2010.


Nov 10 23:25:32 netBrackets[] (ERXNSLogLog4jBridge.java:40) INFO   
NSLog  - Headers: {remote_host = ("::1"); server_software = ("Apache/ 
2.2.13 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.13 OpenSSL/0.9.7l DAV/2"); cookie =  
("jforumUserId=49"); user-agent = ("Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel  
Mac OS X 10_5_8; en-us) AppleWebKit/531.9 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/ 
4.0.3 Safari/531.9"); document_root = ("/Library/WebServer/ 
Documents"); server_name = ("localhost"); accept = ("application/ 
xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/ 
*;q=0.5"); remote_addr = ("::1"); referer = ("http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/- 
"); x-webobjects-adaptor-version = ("Apache"); x-webobjects-request-id  
= ("4afa36e500d80009"); x-webobjects-request-method = ("GET");  
server_admin = ("y...@example.com"); script_filename = ("/cgi-bin");  
server_port = ("0"); accept-encoding = ("gzip, deflate"); remote_port  
= ("50241"); host = ("localhost"); accept-language = ("en-us");  
connection = ("close"); }


On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a  
nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
 	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved under  
host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).



Chuck




On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


On 10.01.2008, at 19:17, Chuck Hill wrote:


Maybe you are ... I have Yojimbo and my own notes ... ;-)


Well, that's smart, ain't it?


;-)

cug


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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

2009-11-10 Thread Lachlan Deck


On 11/11/2009, at 4:22 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a  
nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
 	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL", Session 
().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved under  
host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String) this.request().cookieValueForKey 
("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).


And what do Session() and Session().getPoolName() each return?

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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)



On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working,  
and I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev  
machine, running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is  
running great through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a nice  
URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
  	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved under  
host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

			String poolName = (String)  
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");


And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so  
simple.  any ideas?


NSLog.out.appendln(this.request().headers());

See it in there?  If so, you are retrieving it wrong.  If is not  
there, the browser is not sending it, or you are looking for it in  
wrong request (somehow).



Chuck




On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


On 10.01.2008, at 19:17, Chuck Hill wrote:


Maybe you are ... I have Yojimbo and my own notes ... ;-)


Well, that's smart, ain't it?


;-)

cug


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Re: Can't retrieve cookies (closer, but not there yet)

Holy resurrected thread batman.  I never did get cookies working, and  
I'd REALLY like to figure out why.  I've got a brand new dev machine,  
running Eclipse 3.4, WOLips 3.4.5830.  Everything is running great  
through apache, with DirectConnect Disabled and a nice URL of:


http://localhost/cgi-bin/WebObjects/netBrackets.woa/-

I'm using WOCookie to set my cookie:

  NSTimestamp expires = new NSTimestamp()
.timestampByAddingGregorianUnits(1, 0, 0, 0, 0, 0);
   	  WOCookie poolCookie = new WOCookie("POOL",  
Session().getPoolName(),  "/", null, expires, true);

  response.addCookie(poolCookie);

I look in my Browser (Firefox) and the cookie is there, saved under  
host "localhost" with an expiration of next year.


Then, in my DirectAction function I try to retrieve the cookie:

String poolName = (String) 
this.request().cookieValueForKey("POOL");

And NO DICE.  No cookies returned at all.  And this seems so simple.   
any ideas?


Thanks,
Jeff





On Jan 10, 2008, at 8:24 PM, Guido Neitzer wrote:


On 10.01.2008, at 19:17, Chuck Hill wrote:


Maybe you are ... I have Yojimbo and my own notes ... ;-)


Well, that's smart, ain't it?


;-)

cug


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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

2009-11-10 Thread Kieran Kelleher

Set up wotaskd logging by editing SpawnOfWoTaskd.sh .. as outlined  
here . BTW, just output that log to /tmp because inability to  
write this will cause your app launch to definitely fail. So sth like  
this:


#!/bin/sh
#$@ 1>/dev/null 2>&1 &
LOG=/tmp/SpawnOfWotaskd.log
echo "" >>${LOG}
echo "date: `date`" >>${LOG}
echo "args: $@" >>${LOG}
$@ 1>>${LOG} 2>&1 &



On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:06 PM, David Griffith wrote:


Yep, no problem there.

On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:



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Re: JSON and WebObjects



On Nov 10, 2009, at 8:05 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:


Hello Chuck;

Already did that.  When I go to WOWODC, the slideshow loads but then  
never does it anything, just plays the same overview screen for 15  
minutes.


You mean the one marked *** PREVIEW *** Using JSON-RPC with  
WebObjects*** PREVIEW ***?


And a few links down are Andrew's very popular code and examples.


Chuck




On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Webobjects+JSON ?

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:


Hello;

I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with  
WebObjects.  Unfortunately I have not been able to find much  
information or examples.  I searched through google and the Wiki,  
without much success


Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?

Don
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Re: JSON and WebObjects

2009-11-10 Thread Don Lindsay


Hello Chuck;

Already did that.  When I go to WOWODC, the slideshow loads but then  
never does it anything, just plays the same overview screen for 15  
minutes.



On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Webobjects+JSON ?

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:


Hello;

I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with  
WebObjects.  Unfortunately I have not been able to find much  
information or examples.  I searched through google and the Wiki,  
without much success


Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?

Don
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Re: JSON and WebObjects

2009-11-10 Thread Don Lindsay

I am wanting to pass EO Objects back and forth to an AJAX web  
application.  We have a need where the entire front wend web  
application will be designed by graphics designers, no developers  
involved, then it will be turned over to the Developers to make sure  
all the bits are filled in.  (management's words not mine).  But the  
developers cannot modify the design.


The way I expected would be the easiest to implement would be to use  
JSON and AJAX, to receive objects to populate the interface.


Don
On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:01 PM, Andrew Lindesay wrote:


Hello Don;

You will be happy to know that I've got some quite good material in  
this space.


Check out my WOWODC-2009 video and or look at LEWOStuff;


http://homepage.mac.com/andrewlindesay/le/manuals/lewostuff/LEWOStuffOverview.pdf
(6.10.1 LEJSONFormat)
(7.20 JSON-RPC)

There are also a range of clients for various platforms included.

The JSON serialisation and deserialisation can be used separately  
from the JSON-RPC infrastructure as well.


Do you have a specific thing you want to do?

cheers.

I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with  
WebObjects.  Unfortunately I have not been able to find much  
information or examples.  I searched through google and the Wiki,  
without much success

Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?


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Re: JSON and WebObjects

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Lindesay

Hello Don;

You will be happy to know that I've got some quite good material in this space.

Check out my WOWODC-2009 video and or look at LEWOStuff;


http://homepage.mac.com/andrewlindesay/le/manuals/lewostuff/LEWOStuffOverview.pdf
(6.10.1 LEJSONFormat)
(7.20 JSON-RPC)

There are also a range of clients for various platforms included.

The JSON serialisation and deserialisation can be used separately from the 
JSON-RPC infrastructure as well.

Do you have a specific thing you want to do?

cheers.

> I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with WebObjects.  
> Unfortunately I have not been able to find much information or examples.  I 
> searched through google and the Wiki, without much success
> Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?

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http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=Webobjects+JSON ?

On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:50 PM, Don Lindsay wrote:


Hello;

I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with  
WebObjects.  Unfortunately I have not been able to find much  
information or examples.  I searched through google and the Wiki,  
without much success


Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?

Don
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JSON and WebObjects

2009-11-10 Thread Don Lindsay


Hello;

I am looking to play with some JSON implementations with WebObjects.   
Unfortunately I have not been able to find much information or  
examples.  I searched through google and the Wiki, without much success


Any hints on where to go to find information and small examples?

Don
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Re: Huge many-to-many relationship



On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:03 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

I think I know the answer, but I don't like the answer, so I am  
going to ask it anyway, in case there is some way for me to get a  
different answer than the one I don't like! ;-)


OK, I have a huge many-to-many relationship with a Join  
ERXGenericRecord with the usual flatten relationships and not really  
considered in my logic (except for some count methods)


List <--A-->> JoinListRecipient <<--B--> Recipient


The B side of the join is usually very small, no more than 100 in  
that relationship.


The A side of the join is under 500 for 98% of List EOs, however the  
others can be up to 1 or 2 million.


Do I really have to write my EO logic to actively maintain  
JoinListRecipient EOs and get rid of the flattened relationships as  
shown here?



List <--A-- JoinListRecipient <<--B--> Recipient

 or is there some other answer that I might like?


Don't model  list.recipients and fetch it when you need it.  You  
should not need to make any other changes related to the  Join  
ERXGenericRecord.



Chuck


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Re: IE 7 and https problems

I think it's good...I think I downloaded it on 11/2, but hadn't installed
it.  All is well in the world again. :P

The steak and beers are piling up.

-Lon

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 6:46 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
>
>  I was trying to torture you, but it is worth a look.
>>
>> haha...I need a good kick sometimes.
>>
>> I fixed a Wonder (WOExceptionPage!) bug in that recently, when was your
>> last Wonder update?
>>
>> Hmm, it looks like 11/2.
>>
>
> Should have that fix then:
> r10130 | chillatgvc | 2009-10-24 19:31:27 -0700 (Sat, 24 Oct 2009) | 1 line
>
> Wonder-378 Bad Direct Action URL Creates Zombie Session
>
>
> Maybe you can do some verification of this?
>
> Chuck
>
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Re: IE 7 and https problems



On Nov 10, 2009, at 5:11 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:


I was trying to torture you, but it is worth a look.

haha...I need a good kick sometimes.

I fixed a Wonder (WOExceptionPage!) bug in that recently, when was  
your last Wonder update?


Hmm, it looks like 11/2.


Should have that fix then:
r10130 | chillatgvc | 2009-10-24 19:31:27 -0700 (Sat, 24 Oct 2009) | 1  
line


Wonder-378 Bad Direct Action URL Creates Zombie Session


Maybe you can do some verification of this?

Chuck


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>
> I was trying to torture you, but it is worth a look.


haha...I need a good kick sometimes.


> I fixed a Wonder (WOExceptionPage!) bug in that recently, when was your
> last Wonder update?
>

Hmm, it looks like 11/2.

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On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:59 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

>> Yes, wosids in cookies.  It's possible it's sending something to  
the

>> server without a cookie but I don't know what that is specifically.
>
> You could... look?

I assumed you were just torturing me and wasn't worth the look.


I was trying to torture you, but it is worth a look.


 Actually, I'm pretty sure there's a resource in the css that needs  
a forward slash.  favicon.ico could be another


>> So what's the magical-chuck-1-line-o-code fix? :P
>
> Don't use IE 7.  :-P
>
> A good start is to not create sessions to handle errors.  Start by  
finding
> out if this is happening and where the error is happening.  Log a  
stack

> trace from the session constructor?

Yes, I did this some where back when I was trying to restore a  
session from a "clean" urlhere's what I found:


I think that WOExceptionPage is generating a link that's a component  
action, that is ultimately creating a session:


at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver 
.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1621)


I fixed a Wonder (WOExceptionPage!) bug in that recently, when was  
your last Wonder update?



Chuck



at your.app.Application.createSessionForRequest(Application.java:19)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
.WOApplication._initializeSessionInContext(WOApplication.java:2110)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext.session(WOContext.java:369)
at  
com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext.componentActionURL(WOContext.java: 
1208)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOHyperlink._appendComponentActionURLToResponse(WOHyperlink.java:183)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private.WOHyperlink.appendAttributesToResponse(WOHyperlink.java:219)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.components 
._private.ERXHyperlink.appendAttributesToResponse(ERXHyperlink.java: 
84)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOHTMLDynamicElement 
._appendOpenTagToResponse(WOHTMLDynamicElement.java:493)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private.WOHyperlink._appendOpenTagToResponse(WOHyperlink.java:133)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOHTMLDynamicElement.appendToResponse(WOHTMLDynamicElement.java:443)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:126)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private.WOConditional.appendToResponse(WOConditional.java:94)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:126)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:136)
at  
com 
.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(WOComponent.java: 
1122)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOComponentReference.appendToResponse(WOComponentReference.java:135)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:126)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(WODynamicGroup.java:136)
at  
com 
.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(WOComponent.java: 
1122)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver.WOComponent._appendPageToResponse(WOComponent.java:1574)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver.WOComponent._generateResponseInContext(WOComponent.java: 
1543)
at  
com 
.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.generateResponse(WOComponent.java: 
1538)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.woextensions.WOExceptionPage.generateResponse(WOExceptionPage.java: 
38)
at  
com 
.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication._handleError(WOApplication.java: 
3095)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver.WOApplication.handleException(WOApplication.java:3245)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver.ERXApplication.handleException(ERXApplication.java:1673)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver 
.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(ERXApplication.java:1621)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java: 
287)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver 
._private 
.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(WOActionRequestHandler.java:158)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver 
.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler 
.handleRequest(ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:124)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(WOApplication.java:1687)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver 
.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(ERXApplication.java:1887)
at  
er 
.extensions 
.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(ERXApplication.java:1852)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(WOWorkerThread.java:144)
at  
com 
.webobjects 
.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(WOWorkerThread.java:226)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613)



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>> Yes, wosids in cookies.  It's possible it's sending something to the
>> server without a cookie but I don't know what that is specifically.
>
> You could... look?

I assumed you were just torturing me and wasn't worth the look.  Actually,
I'm pretty sure there's a resource in the css that needs a forward slash.
 favicon.ico could be another

>> So what's the magical-chuck-1-line-o-code fix? :P
>
> Don't use IE 7.  :-P
>
> A good start is to not create sessions to handle errors.  Start by finding
> out if this is happening and where the error is happening.  Log a stack
> trace from the session constructor?

Yes, I did this some where back when I was trying to restore a session from
a "clean" urlhere's what I found:

I think that WOExceptionPage is generating a link that's a component action,
that is ultimately creating a session:

at your.app.Application.createSessionForRequest(Application.java:19)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication._initializeSessionInContext(
WOApplication.java:2110)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext.session(WOContext.java:369)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOContext.componentActionURL(WOContext.java:1208
)

at
com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHyperlink._appendComponentActionURLToResponse(
WOHyperlink.java:183)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHyperlink.appendAttributesToResponse(
WOHyperlink.java:219)

at
er.extensions.components._private.ERXHyperlink.appendAttributesToResponse(
ERXHyperlink.java:84)

at
com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHTMLDynamicElement._appendOpenTagToResponse(
WOHTMLDynamicElement.java:493)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHyperlink._appendOpenTagToResponse(
WOHyperlink.java:133)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHTMLDynamicElement.appendToResponse(
WOHTMLDynamicElement.java:443)

at
com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(
WODynamicGroup.java:126)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOConditional.appendToResponse(
WOConditional.java:94)

at
com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(
WODynamicGroup.java:126)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(
WODynamicGroup.java:136)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(
WOComponent.java:1122)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOComponentReference.appendToResponse(
WOComponentReference.java:135)

at
com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendChildrenToResponse(
WODynamicGroup.java:126)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WODynamicGroup.appendToResponse(
WODynamicGroup.java:136)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.appendToResponse(
WOComponent.java:1122)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent._appendPageToResponse(
WOComponent.java:1574)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent._generateResponseInContext(
WOComponent.java:1543)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOComponent.generateResponse(
WOComponent.java:1538)

at com.webobjects.woextensions.WOExceptionPage.generateResponse(
WOExceptionPage.java:38)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication._handleError(
WOApplication.java:3095)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.handleException(
WOApplication.java:3245)

at er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleException(
ERXApplication.java:1673)

at er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.handleActionRequestError(
ERXApplication.java:1621)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler._handleRequest(
WOActionRequestHandler.java:287)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(
WOActionRequestHandler.java:158)

at er.extensions.appserver.ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.handleRequest(
ERXDirectActionRequestHandler.java:124)

at com.webobjects.appserver.WOApplication.dispatchRequest(
WOApplication.java:1687)

at er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequestImmediately(
ERXApplication.java:1887)

at er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication.dispatchRequest(
ERXApplication.java:1852)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.runOnce(
WOWorkerThread.java:144)

at com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOWorkerThread.run(
WOWorkerThread.java:226)

at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:613)
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Re: IE 7 and https problems



On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:32 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:


Yes, wosids in cookies.  It's possible it's sending something to the
server without a cookie but I don't know what that is specifically.


You could... look?



So what's the magical-chuck-1-line-o-code fix? :P


Don't use IE 7.  :-P

A good start is to not create sessions to handle errors.  Start by  
finding out if this is happening and where the error is happening.   
Log a stack trace from the session constructor?



Chuck


On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Chuck Hill village.net> wrote:


On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:

I'm stumped.  I have a new app (WO 5.4.3 using Wonder from a  
couple of
weeks ago) that when I access via IE 7 (or IE 8 in compatibility  
mode)

it seems to create new sessions when accessing those links


"those links"???



and throws a "You backtracked too far." message.:

http://grab.by/rwY

IE 8, Firefox, Safari all behave appropriately.  Am I missing
something obvious (and no, I can't just not run IE 7 :D).



First guess: you are using cookies for the session ID and it is  
sending some
spurious crap to the server without a cookie, and the app is  
creating a
session to handle the error and returning a new cookie.  Then when  
you click

on the next link... BLAMMO!


Chuck


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Re: IE 7 and https problems

Yes, wosids in cookies.  It's possible it's sending something to the
server without a cookie but I don't know what that is specifically.
So what's the magical-chuck-1-line-o-code fix? :P

-Lon

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Chuck Hill  wrote:
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:
>
>> I'm stumped.  I have a new app (WO 5.4.3 using Wonder from a couple of
>> weeks ago) that when I access via IE 7 (or IE 8 in compatibility mode)
>> it seems to create new sessions when accessing those links
>
> "those links"???
>
>
>> and throws a "You backtracked too far." message.:
>>
>> http://grab.by/rwY
>>
>> IE 8, Firefox, Safari all behave appropriately.  Am I missing
>> something obvious (and no, I can't just not run IE 7 :D).
>
>
> First guess: you are using cookies for the session ID and it is sending some
> spurious crap to the server without a cookie, and the app is creating a
> session to handle the error and returning a new cookie.  Then when you click
> on the next link... BLAMMO!
>
>
> Chuck
>
>
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>
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Re: IE 7 and https problems



On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:16 PM, Lon Varscsak wrote:


I'm stumped.  I have a new app (WO 5.4.3 using Wonder from a couple of
weeks ago) that when I access via IE 7 (or IE 8 in compatibility mode)
it seems to create new sessions when accessing those links


"those links"???



and throws a "You backtracked too far." message.:

http://grab.by/rwY

IE 8, Firefox, Safari all behave appropriately.  Am I missing
something obvious (and no, I can't just not run IE 7 :D).



First guess: you are using cookies for the session ID and it is  
sending some spurious crap to the server without a cookie, and the app  
is creating a session to handle the error and returning a new cookie.   
Then when you click on the next link... BLAMMO!



Chuck


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Re: IE 7 and https problems

Now, I'm not sure 100% that it's just https...it appears to have
problems with component actions on hyperlinks.  Ugh.

-Lon

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Lon Varscsak  wrote:
> I'm stumped.  I have a new app (WO 5.4.3 using Wonder from a couple of
> weeks ago) that when I access via IE 7 (or IE 8 in compatibility mode)
> it seems to create new sessions when accessing those links and throws
> a "You backtracked too far." message.:
>
> http://grab.by/rwY
>
> IE 8, Firefox, Safari all behave appropriately.  Am I missing
> something obvious (and no, I can't just not run IE 7 :D).
>
> -Lon
>
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IE 7 and https problems

I'm stumped.  I have a new app (WO 5.4.3 using Wonder from a couple of
weeks ago) that when I access via IE 7 (or IE 8 in compatibility mode)
it seems to create new sessions when accessing those links and throws
a "You backtracked too far." message.:

http://grab.by/rwY

IE 8, Firefox, Safari all behave appropriately.  Am I missing
something obvious (and no, I can't just not run IE 7 :D).

-Lon
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Re: Immediate redirect of one page to another


Mm coffee!


On Nov 10, 2009, at 4:00 PM, Paul Hoadley wrote:


On 11/11/2009, at 10:23 AM, Paul Hoadley wrote:

   component="$redirectTo" /> 

  
 ... 
  

But clearly I can't.  I want to handle it _in that page_.   
(Obviously I could make the preceding page choose, but ideally I  
want a solution where the present page decides whether to redirect  
itself or not.)  What's the WO way to do this?  I just can't see it.


Yep, not enough coffee.

	public void appendToResponse(WOResponse response, WOContext  
context) {

if (shouldRedirect()) {

response.setContent(redirectTo().generateResponse().content());
} else {
super.appendToResponse(response, context);
}
}


Nothing to see here.


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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux


Yep, no problem there.

On Nov 11, 2009, at 1:04 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


- "David Griffith"  a écrit :
> Hi Pascal,

>
Yes, as I said, I can run it from the command line (as appserver) and  
it runs fine.  I can access it on the specified port no problem.  The  
app operates as it should.  It just refuses to start from  
JavaMonitor.  I also added JavaMonitor in there to see would it start  
but got the same result.  No start, no log.


Does the Logs folder is writable by the appserver user? Try to write a  
file manually in there (eg : touch /opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs/ 
somefilename.txt).


>
Regards,
David.

>
On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

>
> - "David Griffith"  a écrit :
> > Ok, I have managed to get the app up and running finally :-)  At  
least, I can launch it from the command line on a specific port and  
connect to it and use it.


> >
Now, I want to have it added to JavaMonitor and be able to start/stop  
it from there.  I've added it, set the log path, and tried to start  
it.  No go.  Won't have it.  Just keeps trying to start and won't  
start or stop.  Neither does it write any log file.


> >
Obviously I also want to be able to access it like:

> >
http://192.168.1.10/app/WebObjects/appname as I won't have open ports  
on the server.


> >
JavaMonitor is started and running on port 56789.
Host is 192.168.1.10.
Adaptor URL is /app/WebObjects

> >
Where to start looking for clues?

>
File permissions... Try to start your app under appserver by command  
line and good chance that your app won't start.


> >
Regards,
David.

> >
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> > By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is?  It  
seems to be picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our  
existing deployment server seems to be set to ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/ 
lib/classes.zip" but that classes.zip file does not exist.  Is this  
relevant?


> >
Regards,
David.

> >
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote:

> > Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong.  Doh.  I put them in / 
Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks.  Have another  
problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I  
can't sort it myself.


> >
Thanks for your help,

> >
Dave.

> >
On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote:

> > Hi David,

> >
On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote:

By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT,  
WOROOT and APPROOT.  I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips is  
doing it for me?

> >
> > David.
> >
> > On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote:
> >
> > ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to  
be

> > exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact
> > path would be something like
> >

> > /opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar

> >

> >
	If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via  
WOInstaller.jar and have specified /opt as the install directory,
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/Local/Library/ 
Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ).


> >

> > the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was
> > not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making
> > sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are  
correct

> > of course :) )
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith
> >  wrote:
> >
LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar

> >

> >

> >
I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the  
same.  The

> >
above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming further  
down.

> >

> >

> >
On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote:
> >

> >
Hi David,
> >

> >
Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt?
> >

> >
Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for
> >
javafoundation.jar.
> >

> >
Cheers,
> >

> >
John
> >

> >
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith  


> >
wrote:
> >

> >
Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what I am
> >
getting still:
> >

> >
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication
> >
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
> >
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616)
> >
 at
> >
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124)
> >
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
> >
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56)
> >
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
> >
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> >
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
> >
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
> >
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loa

Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

2009-11-10 Thread Pascal Robert


- "David Griffith"  a écrit : 
> Hi Pascal, 

> 
Yes, as I said, I can run it from the command line (as appserver) and it runs 
fine. I can access it on the specified port no problem. The app operates as it 
should. It just refuses to start from JavaMonitor. I also added JavaMonitor in 
there to see would it start but got the same result. No start, no log. 


Does the Logs folder is writable by the appserver user? Try to write a file 
manually in there (eg : touch 
/opt/Local/Library/WebObjects/Logs/somefilename.txt). 

> 
Regards, 
David. 

> 

On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: 


> 
> - "David Griffith" < da...@infinityspain.com > a écrit : 
> > Ok, I have managed to get the app up and running finally :-) At least, I 
> > can launch it from the command line on a specific port and connect to it 
> > and use it. 

> > 
Now, I want to have it added to JavaMonitor and be able to start/stop it from 
there. I've added it, set the log path, and tried to start it. No go. Won't 
have it. Just keeps trying to start and won't start or stop. Neither does it 
write any log file. 

> > 
Obviously I also want to be able to access it like: 

> > 
http://192.168.1.10/app/WebObjects/appname as I won't have open ports on the 
server. 

> > 
JavaMonitor is started and running on port 56789. 
Host is 192.168.1.10. 
Adaptor URL is /app/WebObjects 

> > 
Where to start looking for clues? 

> 
File permissions... Try to start your app under appserver by command line and 
good chance that your app won't start. 

> > 
Regards, 
David. 

> > 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: 

> > By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is? It seems to be 
> > picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our existing 
> > deployment server seems to be set to 
> > ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/lib/classes.zip" but that classes.zip file does 
> > not exist. Is this relevant? 

> > 
Regards, 
David. 

> > 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote: 

> > Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong. Doh. I put them in 
> > /Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks. Have another 
> > problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I can't 
> > sort it myself. 

> > 
Thanks for your help, 

> > 
Dave. 

> > 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: 

> > Hi David, 

> > 

On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote: 



By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT, WOROOT and 
APPROOT. I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips is doing it for me? 
> > 
> > David. 
> > 
> > On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote: 
> > 
> > ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to be 
> > exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact 
> > path would be something like 
> > 



> > /opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ERExtensions.jar
> >  
> > 

> > 
If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via WOInstaller.jar and 
have specified /opt as the install directory, 
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/ Local 
/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ). 
> > 



> > the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was 
> > not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making 
> > sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are correct 
> > of course :) ) 
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith 
> > < da...@infinityspain.com > wrote: 
> > 

LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ERExtensions.jar
 
> > 


> > 


> > 

I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the same. The 
> > 

above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming further down. 
> > 


> > 


> > 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote: 
> > 


> > 

Hi David, 
> > 


> > 

Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt? 
> > 


> > 

Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for 
> > 

javafoundation.jar. 
> > 


> > 

Cheers, 
> > 


> > 

John 
> > 


> > 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith < da...@infinityspain.com > 
> > 

wrote: 
> > 




> > 



Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what I am 
> > 



getting still: 
> > 




> > 



java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication 
> > 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) 
> > 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616) 
> > 



at 
> > 



java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) 
> > 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) 
> > 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56) 
> > 



at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) 
> > 



at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 
> > 



at java.net.URLClassLoader

Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux


Hi Pascal,

Yes, as I said, I can run it from the command line (as appserver) and  
it runs fine.  I can access it on the specified port no problem.  The  
app operates as it should.  It just refuses to start from  
JavaMonitor.  I also added JavaMonitor in there to see would it start  
but got the same result.  No start, no log.


Regards,
David.

On Nov 11, 2009, at 12:57 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


- "David Griffith"  a écrit :
> Ok, I have managed to get the app up and running finally :-)  At  
least, I can launch it from the command line on a specific port and  
connect to it and use it.


>
Now, I want to have it added to JavaMonitor and be able to start/stop  
it from there.  I've added it, set the log path, and tried to start  
it.  No go.  Won't have it.  Just keeps trying to start and won't  
start or stop.  Neither does it write any log file.


>
Obviously I also want to be able to access it like:

>
http://192.168.1.10/app/WebObjects/appname as I won't have open ports  
on the server.


>
JavaMonitor is started and running on port 56789.
Host is 192.168.1.10.
Adaptor URL is /app/WebObjects

>
Where to start looking for clues?

File permissions... Try to start your app under appserver by command  
line and good chance that your app won't start.


>
Regards,
David.

>
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote:

> By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is?  It  
seems to be picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our  
existing deployment server seems to be set to ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/ 
lib/classes.zip" but that classes.zip file does not exist.  Is this  
relevant?


>
Regards,
David.

>
On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote:

> Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong.  Doh.  I put them in / 
Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks.  Have another  
problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I  
can't sort it myself.


>
Thanks for your help,

>
Dave.

>
On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote:

> Hi David,

>
On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote:

By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT,  
WOROOT and APPROOT.  I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips is  
doing it for me?

>
> David.
>
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote:
>
> ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to be
> exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact
> path would be something like
>

> /opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar

>

>
	If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via  
WOInstaller.jar and have specified /opt as the install directory,
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/Local/Library/ 
Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ).


>

> the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was
> not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making
> sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are  
correct

> of course :) )
>
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith
>  wrote:
>
LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar

>

>

>
I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the  
same.  The

>
above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming further  
down.

>

>

>
On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote:
>

>
Hi David,
>

>
Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt?
>

>
Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for
>
javafoundation.jar.
>

>
Cheers,
>

>
John
>

>
On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith  


>
wrote:
>

>
Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what I am
>
getting still:
>

>
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication
>
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
>
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616)
>
 at
>
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124)
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56)
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
>
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
>
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
>
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
>
 at com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap.main(WOBootstrap.java:84)
>
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
>
er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
>
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
>
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
>
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassL

Re: Immediate redirect of one page to another

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Hoadley


On 11/11/2009, at 10:23 AM, Paul Hoadley wrote:

   component="$redirectTo" /> 

  
 ... 
  

But clearly I can't.  I want to handle it _in that page_.   
(Obviously I could make the preceding page choose, but ideally I  
want a solution where the present page decides whether to redirect  
itself or not.)  What's the WO way to do this?  I just can't see it.


Yep, not enough coffee.

public void appendToResponse(WOResponse response, WOContext context) {
if (shouldRedirect()) {

response.setContent(redirectTo().generateResponse().content());
} else {
super.appendToResponse(response, context);
}
}


Nothing to see here.


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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

2009-11-10 Thread Pascal Robert


- "David Griffith"  a écrit : 
> Ok, I have managed to get the app up and running finally :-) At least, I can 
> launch it from the command line on a specific port and connect to it and use 
> it. 

> 
Now, I want to have it added to JavaMonitor and be able to start/stop it from 
there. I've added it, set the log path, and tried to start it. No go. Won't 
have it. Just keeps trying to start and won't start or stop. Neither does it 
write any log file. 

> 
Obviously I also want to be able to access it like: 

> 
http://192.168.1.10/app/WebObjects/appname as I won't have open ports on the 
server. 

> 
JavaMonitor is started and running on port 56789. 
Host is 192.168.1.10. 
Adaptor URL is /app/WebObjects 

> 
Where to start looking for clues? 


File permissions... Try to start your app under appserver by command line and 
good chance that your app won't start. 

> 
Regards, 
David. 

> 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote: 

> By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is? It seems to be 
> picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our existing deployment 
> server seems to be set to ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/lib/classes.zip" but that 
> classes.zip file does not exist. Is this relevant? 

> 
Regards, 
David. 

> 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote: 

> Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong. Doh. I put them in 
> /Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks. Have another 
> problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I can't sort 
> it myself. 

> 
Thanks for your help, 

> 
Dave. 

> 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote: 

> Hi David, 

> 

On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote: 



By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT, WOROOT and 
APPROOT. I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips is doing it for me? 
> 
> David. 
> 
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote: 
> 
> ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to be 
> exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact 
> path would be something like 
> 



> /opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ERExtensions.jar
>  
> 

> 
If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via WOInstaller.jar and 
have specified /opt as the install directory, 
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/ Local 
/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ). 
> 



> the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was 
> not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making 
> sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are correct 
> of course :) ) 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith 
> < da...@infinityspain.com > wrote: 
> 

LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ERExtensions.jar
 
> 


> 


> 

I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the same. The 
> 

above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming further down. 
> 


> 


> 

On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote: 
> 


> 

Hi David, 
> 


> 

Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt? 
> 


> 

Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for 
> 

javafoundation.jar. 
> 


> 

Cheers, 
> 


> 

John 
> 


> 

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith < da...@infinityspain.com > 
> 

wrote: 
> 




> 



Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what I am 
> 



getting still: 
> 




> 



java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ERXApplication 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616) 
> 



at 
> 



java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56) 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) 
> 



at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248) 
> 



at com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap.main(WOBootstrap.java:84) 
> 



Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
> 



er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200) 
> 



at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) 
> 



at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248) 
> 



at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:316) 
> 



... 11 more 
> 




> 




> 



On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:35 PM, David

Immediate redirect of one page to another

2009-11-10 Thread Paul Hoadley


Hello,

I suspect I haven't had enough coffee yet...  What I want to do is  
cause an immediate re-direct of a requested page to a different page  
under certain conditions.  It would be nice to handle it within the  
HTML template, but any solution is fine by me.  I was thinking I could  
do something like this:


   component="$redirectTo" /> 

  
 ... 
  

But clearly I can't.  I want to handle it _in that page_.  (Obviously  
I could make the preceding page choose, but ideally I want a solution  
where the present page decides whether to redirect itself or not.)   
What's the WO way to do this?  I just can't see it.



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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

Ok, I have managed to get the app up and running finally :-)  At  
least, I can launch it from the command line on a specific port and  
connect to it and use it.


Now, I want to have it added to JavaMonitor and be able to start/stop  
it from there.  I've added it, set the log path, and tried to start  
it.  No go.  Won't have it.  Just keeps trying to start and won't  
start or stop.  Neither does it write any log file.


Obviously I also want to be able to access it like:

http://192.168.1.10/app/WebObjects/appname as I won't have open ports  
on the server.


JavaMonitor is started and running on port 56789.
Host is 192.168.1.10.
Adaptor URL is /app/WebObjects

Where to start looking for clues?

Regards,
David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, David Griffith wrote:

By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is?  It seems  
to be picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our  
existing deployment server seems to be set to ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/ 
lib/classes.zip" but that classes.zip file does not exist.  Is this  
relevant?


Regards,
David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong.  Doh.  I put them in / 
Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks.  Have another  
problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I  
can't sort it myself.


Thanks for your help,

Dave.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote:

Hi David,

On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote:

By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT,  
WOROOT and APPROOT.  I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips  
is doing it for me?


David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote:

ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to be
exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact
path would be something like

/opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar


	If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via  
WOInstaller.jar and have specified /opt as the install directory,
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/Local/Library/ 
Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ).




the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was
not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making
sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are correct
of course :) )

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith
 wrote:
LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar



I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the  
same.  The
above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming  
further down.



On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote:

Hi David,

Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt?

Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for
javafoundation.jar.

Cheers,

John

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith >

wrote:


Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what  
I am

getting still:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ 
ERXApplication

 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616)
 at
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java: 
124)

 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
 at com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap.main 
(WOBootstrap.java:84)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java: 
316)

 ... 11 more


On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I've noticed that when I manually launch this app on my new local  
server,

I
get:

-DWOEnvClassPath=""

Whereas on development machine, or the existing deployment server,  
I get:

-DWOEnvClassPath=".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/lib/classes.zip"

Where is this value set or how do I set it?  It seems that this is  
causing

the errors I'm getting, i.e. NoClassDef for Application etc.

Regards,
David.

On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:58 PM, John Bruce wrote:

Hi David,

If exporting the NEXT_ROOT doe

Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

2009-11-10 Thread Ramsey Lee Gurley

On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:21 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

> 
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
>> 
>>> Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?
>>> 
>>> http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/msg00342.html
>> 
>> And not so great minds don't read the docs?  :-P
> 
> What?! There's docs now? :-P
> 
>> WOTextField extends WODynamicElement, not WOComponent.  WODynamicElement 
>> same same, but very different.  No have template.
>> 
>> The WODynamicElements are not really intended to be sub-classed.  There were 
>> not written with that in mind.  You will pretty much have to re-implement 
>> it.  The other approach is to wrap it in a WOComponent and, yes, pass in all 
>> the possible bindings.
> 
> Yeah, I jumpt to a conclusion. I saw the subject "Subclassing a Component" 
> and that you had responded with something that wasn't quite completely clear 
> to me at first and thought, well it must be just over my head. I'll figure it 
> out eventually.
> 
> Once I figured out that it wasn't at all what I was talking about, you (and 
> Ricardo) had already busted me.
> 
> Dave
> 
>> x`
>> 
>> You might also be able to add to the bindings in Application using
>> public WOElement dynamicElementWithName(String aName, 
>> NSDictionary someAssociations, WOElement anElement, 
>> NSArray aLanguageArray)
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
>>> 
 Hi all,

 Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client  testimonial!

 There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a WOTextField that 
 should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to deal with any chance 
 that anything other than numbers will be passed on the server, so I added 
 this javascript to the page:

 And added this binding to the WOTextField:  onkeypress="return 
 isNumberKey(event)"

 This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally hundreds of 
 places that I need to use this, and since the code will always be the 
 same, is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so all I have to do is 
 simply replace calls to WOTextField with MYNumberField without having to 
 manually pass through all of WOTextField's bindings (value = ^val)

 Thanks!

 Dave

100 : (task = 'edit' and (smartAttribute.className = 'java.lang.Number' or 
smartAttribute.className = 'java.math.BigDecimal')) => componentName = 
DavesJSEditNumberThingy [Assignment]

(^_~)d [<--Thumbs up!]

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Huge many-to-many relationship

2009-11-10 Thread Kieran Kelleher

I think I know the answer, but I don't like the answer, so I am going  
to ask it anyway, in case there is some way for me to get a different  
answer than the one I don't like! ;-)


OK, I have a huge many-to-many relationship with a Join  
ERXGenericRecord with the usual flatten relationships and not really  
considered in my logic (except for some count methods)


List <--A-->> JoinListRecipient <<--B--> Recipient


The B side of the join is usually very small, no more than 100 in that  
relationship.


The A side of the join is under 500 for 98% of List EOs, however the  
others can be up to 1 or 2 million.


Do I really have to write my EO logic to actively maintain  
JoinListRecipient EOs and get rid of the flattened relationships as  
shown here?



List <--A-- JoinListRecipient <<--B--> Recipient

 or is there some other answer that I might like?

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Re: compound pk

2009-11-10 Thread Mark Ritchie


On 10/Nov/2009, at 10:25 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

why do you guys have to make my life difficult 
no reason for asking :)



Hey Mike!

Um, well, you did ask! ;-)   Historically, the need to have compound  
pk's has usually been an artifact of some poor database design which  
was already entrenched.  When I could not otherwise avoid it, I  
generated the needed pk's on the fly, as needed.


Best!
Mark
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The key, the whole key and nothing but the key!
So help me Codd!

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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

Hi Kieran,

Where can I find that - I'd love to watch it

Regards,
David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:19 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

David,

Easy way ... just make a custom stateless reusable component
"SmartNumberTextField.wo" or whatever you want to call it. Make it
binding compatible with WOtextfield so you can just change the
component name in wod. I do this for date fields. I have one component
WKDateField that has a default date formatter and a javascript
calendar widget. When I want to change the widget behaviour or switch
to a different calendar widget, I just change the one component.

Basically you should be building a framework of reusable stateless
WOComponents that you can re-use in apps over and over. The goal is
"do not repeat yourself" and productivity.

BTW, use Wonder AjaxUtils or ERIncludeOncePerRequest (or whatever
that's called) to stuff the javsscript snippet into the head or the
page only once.

Also, for inspiration on Reusable Components, it is worthwhile to
watch Session 614 "Reusable Components" from WWDC 2003.

Regards, Kieran

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a WOTextField
that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to deal with
any chance that anything other than numbers will be passed on the
server, so I added this javascript to the page:

And added this binding to the WOTextField: onkeypress="return
isNumberKey(event)"

This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally hundreds
of places that I need to use this, and since the code will always be
the same, is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so all I have
to do is simply replace calls to WOTextField with MYNumberField
without having to manually pass through all of WOTextField's
bindings (value = ^val)

Thanks!

Dave

David Avendasora
Senior Software Engineer
K12, Inc.

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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

2009-11-10 Thread Kieran Kelleher

David,

Basically you should be building a framework of reusable stateless
WOComponents that you can re-use in apps over and over. The goal is
"do not repeat yourself" and productivity.

BTW, use Wonder AjaxUtils or ERIncludeOncePerRequest (or whatever
that's called) to stuff the javsscript snippet into the head or the
page only once.

Also, for inspiration on Reusable Components, it is worthwhile to
watch Session 614 "Reusable Components" from WWDC 2003.

Regards, Kieran

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client testimonial!

And added this binding to the WOTextField: onkeypress="return
isNumberKey(event)"

Thanks!

Dave

David Avendasora
Senior Software Engineer
K12, Inc.

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Re: Installing WO 543 on Linux

By the way, can someone tell me what the DWOEnvClassPath is?  It seems  
to be picked up from the $CLASSPATH env variable, which on our  
existing deployment server seems to be set to ".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/ 
lib/classes.zip" but that classes.zip file does not exist.  Is this  
relevant?


Regards,
David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:12 AM, David Griffith wrote:

Thanks Bogdan, that's where I went wrong.  Doh.  I put them in / 
Library/Frameworks instead of /Local/Library/Frameworks.  Have another  
problem now, of course, but I'll look into it later and post if I  
can't sort it myself.


Thanks for your help,

Dave.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 9:52 AM, Bogdan Zlatanov wrote:

Hi David,

On 10 Nov 2009, at 09:46, David Griffith wrote:

By the way, what I'm getting in the UnixClassPath.txt is LOCALROOT,  
WOROOT and APPROOT.  I haven't named any of these so I guess WOLips  
is doing it for me?


David.

On Nov 10, 2009, at 1:21 AM, John Bruce wrote:

ok you either need to define LOCALROOT or just change the path to be
exact - I'm assuming /opt for your WebObjects install so the extact
path would be something like

/opt/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar


	If you have installed WebObjects on the linux machine via  
WOInstaller.jar and have specified /opt as the install directory,
then ERExtensions.jar should be placed in /opt/Local/Library/ 
Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework ( pay attention to the Local ).




the part about moving ERExtensions.jar above javafoundation.jar was
not to do with resolving the location issue but rather just making
sure the jars are loaded inthe right order (once the paths are correct
of course :) )

On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 12:04 AM, David Griffith
 wrote:
LOCALROOT/Library/Frameworks/ERExtensions.framework/Resources/Java/ 
ERExtensions.jar



I've moved ERExtensions to appear above JavaFoundation, still the  
same.  The
above is the second line I believe, with JavaFoundation coming  
further down.



On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:56 AM, John Bruce wrote:

Hi David,

Whats the classpath entry for ERExtensions.jar in UNIXClassPath.txt?

Also ERExtensions.jar needs to appear before the entry for
javafoundation.jar.

Cheers,

John

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 11:47 PM, David Griffith >

wrote:


Well I think I figured out how to set that value, but this is what  
I am

getting still:

java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: er/extensions/appserver/ 
ERXApplication

 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:616)
 at
java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java: 
124)

 at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(URLClassLoader.java:56)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
 at com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap.main 
(WOBootstrap.java:84)

Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
er.extensions.appserver.ERXApplication
 at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:200)
 at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
 at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:303)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
 at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java: 
316)

 ... 11 more


On Nov 9, 2009, at 11:35 PM, David Griffith wrote:

I've noticed that when I manually launch this app on my new local  
server,

I
get:

-DWOEnvClassPath=""

Whereas on development machine, or the existing deployment server,  
I get:

-DWOEnvClassPath=".:/usr/java/jre1.5.0_06/lib/classes.zip"

Where is this value set or how do I set it?  It seems that this is  
causing

the errors I'm getting, i.e. NoClassDef for Application etc.

Regards,
David.

On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:58 PM, John Bruce wrote:

Hi David,

If exporting the NEXT_ROOT doens't work you can also edit the
UNIXClassPath.txt file which is inside your woa in the Contents/UNIX
directory. There you can set the path to the frameworks explicity
which should solve the problem for now while you work on the  
NEXT_ROOT

issue.

In my build / deploy process I embed the frameworks (as well as the
particular WO version that app is using) inside a directory and set
the path explicity in the file. That way I can depoy different apps
that use differnt WO versions alongside each other.

Cheers,

John

On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 9:30 PM, David Griffith >

wrote:


Hi John,

I did have an error in the path to the apps, I've fixed that and  
it works

great now.  To start the apps I mean.
I can connect to JavaMonitor on port 56789.

I've installed all the Wonder

Re: Class loading problem - taking forever



On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:20 AM, John Huss wrote:

I have an app that is taking an extremely long time to startup and  
start responding to requests (5-10 minutes).  It appears to be  
spending a huge amount of time in  
NSBundle.searchAllBundlesForClassWithName, which has the ominous  
logging message:


"NSBundle.searchAllBundlesForClassWithName was invoked.
**This affects performance very badly.** "

What causes this method to be invoked?  It seems to be called in  
other apps that work fine so I'm not sure if this is important or not.


I don't think that message could be the cause of a 5-10 minute delay.   
A delay that long sounds more like a static initializer block that is  
timing out on something (connecting to a port?).  Try and get a thread  
dump while it is hung, that will likely point directly to the culprit.



For the time-being I've worked around the issue by calling  
_NSUtilities.setClassForName for a bunch of classes, but I'm not  
sure why this is necessary since I'm not doing that in other apps.


Are there other classes in the relevant bundle/jar that have static  
initializers?  Is this on the same or different machines?  If  
different, could be a block on some outgoing connection.



And in general this makes me think it would be better to do  
_NSUtilities.setClassForName for everything in Wonder for instance -  
if there is a performance (startup time) benefit.



That messages looks more normal than concerning to me


Chuck

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Re: compound pk

but never mind ... the existence of you two crazy people means i had  
to rethink my no-reason. that, within a couple minutes of posting, two  
people pop up and actually have depended on this means that the actual  
number must be a lot more.


ms

On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:43 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:


why do you guys have to make my life difficult 
no reason for asking :)

Just curious ? Can't believe.
probably a good idea to never trust my smiley-faced adorned "no  
reason"s


ms

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Re: compound pk


why do you guys have to make my life difficult 
no reason for asking :)

Just curious ? Can't believe.

probably a good idea to never trust my smiley-faced adorned "no reason"s

ms

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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

2009-11-10 Thread Johnny Miller

I have a reusable solution that solves this problem but it's
experimental so use at your own risk.

If you go to http://www.kahalawai.com/MoAjax

On the left hand side there is a navigation, choose the link at the
bottom "JS Form Validation".

best,

Johnny

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:21 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?

http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/
msg00342.html

And not so great minds don't read the docs? :-P

What?! There's docs now? :-P

WOTextField extends WODynamicElement, not WOComponent.
WODynamicElement same same, but very different. No have template.

The WODynamicElements are not really intended to be sub-classed.
There were not written with that in mind. You will pretty much
have to re-implement it. The other approach is to wrap it in a
WOComponent and, yes, pass in all the possible bindings.

Yeah, I jumpt to a conclusion. I saw the subject "Subclassing a
Component" and that you had responded with something that wasn't
quite completely clear to me at first and thought, well it must be
just over my head. I'll figure it out eventually.

Once I figured out that it wasn't at all what I was talking about,
you (and Ricardo) had already busted me.

Dave

You might also be able to add to the bindings in Application using
public WOElement dynamicElementWithName(String aName,
NSDictionary someAssociations, WOElement
anElement, NSArray aLanguageArray)

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a
WOTextField that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want
to deal with any chance that anything other than numbers will be
passed on the server, so I added this javascript to the page:

And added this binding to the WOTextField: onkeypress="return
isNumberKey(event)"

This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally
hundreds of places that I need to use this, and since the code
will always be the same, is it possible to simply extend
WOTextField so all I have to do is simply replace calls to
WOTextField with MYNumberField without having to manually pass
through all of WOTextField's bindings (value = ^val)

Thanks!

Dave

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Re: compound pk

2009-11-10 Thread Stefan Klein



Mike Schrag schrieb:

why do you guys have to make my life difficult 
no reason for asking :)


Just curious ? Can't believe.

ms

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Stefan Klein wrote:


HI Mike,

I did something strange  :-) some years ago under WO5.2. In the PK 
generation some values were added automatically like user, valid_from 
dates ... .

Why are you asking ?

Stefan

Mike Schrag schrieb:
has anyone ever had a scenario where they've had an entity with a 
compound PK where they needed PK generation for some strange 
reason?  i can't come up with any scenario where this would actually 
work, but i thought i'd toss the question out to the masses 


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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

On Nov 10, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?

http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/msg00342.html

And not so great minds don't read the docs? :-P

What?! There's docs now? :-P

WOTextField extends WODynamicElement, not WOComponent.
WODynamicElement same same, but very different. No have template.

The WODynamicElements are not really intended to be sub-classed.
There were not written with that in mind. You will pretty much have
to re-implement it. The other approach is to wrap it in a
WOComponent and, yes, pass in all the possible bindings.

Yeah, I jumpt to a conclusion. I saw the subject "Subclassing a
Component" and that you had responded with something that wasn't quite
completely clear to me at first and thought, well it must be just over
my head. I'll figure it out eventually.

Once I figured out that it wasn't at all what I was talking about, you
(and Ricardo) had already busted me.

Dave

You might also be able to add to the bindings in Application using
public WOElement dynamicElementWithName(String aName,
NSDictionary someAssociations, WOElement
anElement, NSArray aLanguageArray)

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a
WOTextField that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want
to deal with any chance that anything other than numbers will be
passed on the server, so I added this javascript to the page:

And added this binding to the WOTextField: onkeypress="return
isNumberKey(event)"

This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally
hundreds of places that I need to use this, and since the code
will always be the same, is it possible to simply extend
WOTextField so all I have to do is simply replace calls to
WOTextField with MYNumberField without having to manually pass
through all of WOTextField's bindings (value = ^val)

Thanks!

Dave

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overall knowledge of WebObjects or who are trying to solve specific
problems.

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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

On Nov 10, 2009, at 11:52 AM, David Avendasora wrote:

Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?

http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/msg00342.html

And not so great minds don't read the docs? :-P

WOTextField extends WODynamicElement, not WOComponent.
WODynamicElement same same, but very different. No have template.

The WODynamicElements are not really intended to be sub-classed.
There were not written with that in mind. You will pretty much have
to re-implement it. The other approach is to wrap it in a WOComponent
and, yes, pass in all the possible bindings.

You might also be able to add to the bindings in Application using
public WOElement dynamicElementWithName(String aName,
NSDictionary someAssociations, WOElement
anElement, NSArray aLanguageArray)

Chuck

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a
WOTextField that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to
deal with any chance that anything other than numbers will be
passed on the server, so I added this javascript to the page:

And added this binding to the WOTextField: onkeypress="return
isNumberKey(event)"

This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally
hundreds of places that I need to use this, and since the code will
always be the same, is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so
all I have to do is simply replace calls to WOTextField with
MYNumberField without having to manually pass through all of
WOTextField's bindings (value = ^val)

Thanks!

Dave

David Avendasora
Senior Software Engineer
K12, Inc.

--
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problems.

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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField

2009-11-10 Thread Ricardo J. Parada

Just curious... How is ERXComponentUtilities.inheritTemplateFrom  used to solve 
your problem?

:-)


On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:52 PM, David Avendasora wrote:

> Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?
> 
> http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/msg00342.html
> 
> Dave
> 
> On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client  testimonial!
>> 
>> There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a WOTextField that 
>> should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to deal with any chance that 
>> anything other than numbers will be passed on the server, so I added this 
>> javascript to the page:
>> 
>> 
>>   
>> 
>> 
>> And added this binding to the WOTextField:  onkeypress="return 
>> isNumberKey(event)" 
>> 
>> This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally hundreds of 
>> places that I need to use this, and since the code will always be the same, 
>> is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so all I have to do is simply 
>> replace calls to WOTextField with MYNumberField without having to manually 
>> pass through all of WOTextField's bindings (value = ^val)
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>> 
>> David Avendasora
>> Senior Software Engineer
>> K12, Inc.
>> 
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>> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/
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Re: Numbers Only in WOTextField


Never mind! Great minds think alike, right Lon?

http://lists.apple.com/archives/webobjects-dev/2009/Oct/msg00342.html

Dave

On Nov 10, 2009, at 2:29 PM, David Avendasora wrote:


Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client  testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a WOTextField  
that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to deal with  
any chance that anything other than numbers will be passed on the  
server, so I added this javascript to the page:



  


And added this binding to the WOTextField:  onkeypress="return  
isNumberKey(event)"


This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally hundreds  
of places that I need to use this, and since the code will always be  
the same, is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so all I have  
to do is simply replace calls to WOTextField with MYNumberField  
without having to manually pass through all of WOTextField's  
bindings (value = ^val)


Thanks!

Dave


David Avendasora
Senior Software Engineer
K12, Inc.

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Numbers Only in WOTextField


Hi all,

Okay, brace yourselves, this isn't a Java Client  testimonial!

There are lots of places in our Web apps where we have a WOTextField  
that should only ever be given numbers. I don't want to deal with any  
chance that anything other than numbers will be passed on the server,  
so I added this javascript to the page:



  


And added this binding to the WOTextField:  onkeypress="return  
isNumberKey(event)"


This works great. Exactly what I want, but I have literally hundreds  
of places that I need to use this, and since the code will always be  
the same, is it possible to simply extend WOTextField so all I have to  
do is simply replace calls to WOTextField with MYNumberField without  
having to manually pass through all of WOTextField's bindings (value =  
^val)


Thanks!

Dave


David Avendasora
Senior Software Engineer
K12, Inc.

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Re: compound pk


why do you guys have to make my life difficult 
no reason for asking :)

ms

On Nov 10, 2009, at 10:53 AM, Stefan Klein wrote:


HI Mike,

I did something strange  :-) some years ago under WO5.2. In the PK  
generation some values were added automatically like user,  
valid_from dates ... .

Why are you asking ?

Stefan

Mike Schrag schrieb:
has anyone ever had a scenario where they've had an entity with a  
compound PK where they needed PK generation for some strange  
reason?  i can't come up with any scenario where this would  
actually work, but i thought i'd toss the question out to the  
masses 


ms

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Re: compound pk

2009-11-10 Thread John Bruce

Hi Mike,

Had a situation recently on a app where some entities were using
compound primary keys. Most of the time they were read only but there
was a new process added that duplicated some of these entities (using
EOCopying). In that case some values in the compound primary key
needed to stay the same and others would be different (some had 3
attributes as part of the key). Before refactoring these entites we
would do the copy and specify the primary key dictionary in the entiy
retaining the fixed attributes and use generated values for the
changable ones. It worked most of the time but in the end we just
changed those entities to use single primary keys in the more standard
way. So I guess my point is that automatic compound primary key
generation could be useful when duplicating objects that use them.
Also if you arn't in a position to alter the db schema then you might
not be able to change to single primary keys and being able to insert
objects in that situation would be nice without having the manually
create the ok dictionary.

Cheers,

John

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> has anyone ever had a scenario where they've had an entity with a compound
> PK where they needed PK generation for some strange reason?  i can't come up
> with any scenario where this would actually work, but i thought i'd toss the
> question out to the masses 
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Re: compound pk

2009-11-10 Thread Stefan Klein


HI Mike,

I did something strange  :-) some years ago under WO5.2. In the PK 
generation some values were added automatically like user, valid_from 
dates ... .

Why are you asking ?

Stefan

Mike Schrag schrieb:
has anyone ever had a scenario where they've had an entity with a 
compound PK where they needed PK generation for some strange reason?  
i can't come up with any scenario where this would actually work, but 
i thought i'd toss the question out to the masses 


ms

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compound pk

has anyone ever had a scenario where they've had an entity with a  
compound PK where they needed PK generation for some strange reason?   
i can't come up with any scenario where this would actually work, but  
i thought i'd toss the question out to the masses 


ms

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Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread David LeBer



On 2009-11-10, at 10:02 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:

The assistants are an excellent example of how easy it is to hit a  
stone wall. I remember I re-created my first project 5 times,  
because I simply couldn't figure how the various things influenced  
each other. Had I known about the rules up-front, I'd at least would  
have had a chance to to things in a more systematic way...


What the default stuff gives is a fancy way to navigate your data,  
much like mysqladmin or the like, only with objects. From there on  
to a "real" app, it's not a cliff, it's a missile cruise...


Cheers, Anjo


D2W is a huge and horribly opaque beast, and I love it so :-) I  
understand the desire for some illumination on the topic, some help  
easing into the technology, unfortunately, I don't believe the  
assistant is it.


Assistant gives you the false sense that you are actually getting  
somewhere, and then you hit a wall, and you discover you aren't. I  
tried to learn from it's rules, it was a horrible soul crushing  
experience.


My sense is that the number of options in a D2JC are constrained by  
the JC architecture, and in this case the assistant would work well  
because it could cover all options and you would never need to  
actually touch the rules manually.


Because of the extensible nature of D2W (the look/components you use  
are controlled by and at the same time extend the rules) the assistant  
can never come close to understanding all of the options available.  
That means in D2W you will NEED to edit the rules manually.





Am 10.11.2009 um 15:42 schrieb David Avendasora:



On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote:




I have heard the 'Assistant produces horrible rules use  
RuleModeler' over and over again by very outspoken, well versed  
into the Direct To Web technology developers that have tweaked the  
rulegeneration and parsing themselves (Anjo and Guido come to mind).


They might be right about the WebAssistant, but that means that  
people that are not well versed in that technology do not have a  
possibility to learn how these rules work.


'Read the source code of the available rules' is for a lot of  
people not the first idea that comes to mind I the want to learn a  
new technology that is supposed to be based on rules.


I think that one of the reasons that there seems to be a lack of  
new WebObjects developers (according to Pascal's research) has to  
do with the falling away of these  gentle tools: displaygroups  
that were automagically generated, WebAssistant that made  you  
whip up a crude interface to a database in an hour.


I remember one of the CodeFab guys telling learning WebObjects is  
not difficult because of the steep learning curve, but because  
there is a learning cliff.


A gentler introduction (like the WebAssistant was) into the whole  
rulesystem really helped people to get into WebObjects.


I would be nice if these tools should at least not be broken (like  
they are now with the D2WebService Assisant, the D2WebAssistant)  
until something as gentle came up.


I think this is a really excellent point. This is one of the major  
reasons I didn't walk away from WO when I first started. I didn't  
experience the learning "cliff" at all. I had a fully functional WO  
app without needing to learn a single piece of WO/EOF. I was then  
able to take small steps to understand WebObjects/EOF piece-by- 
piece. I first tried to set a default value and learned the whole  
"awakeFromInsertion" side of things. Then I quickly learned the  
situations in which you don't want to have a reverse to-many  
relationship by simply running my app and seeing how long it took  
to set an Entitie's "Type" when there were thousands of items with  
that Type. Then it was the implications of an object owning the  
destination of it's relationship and then the basics of WO's built- 
in validation system.


It turned the cliff into a gentle slope

I learned a huge amount of EOF before I ever even touched a .wo  
file. By the time I created my first Web components I understood  
exactly where to put UI logic and where to put business logic.


I now use D2JC differently than I did when I was first learning WO,  
but it was fundamental to my being able to wrap my head around what  
EOF was and how it was so fundamentally different from other  
technologies I had used in the past. I didn't have to learn  
anything about components or editing contexts before I could  
implement my business logic. D2JC managed all of that for me.


I think a great flow for a newcomer to learn WO is:

Reverse Engineer an existing DB
Launch a D2JC App that uses that model
Learn how the basics of EOF work and the implications of various  
model settings by changing model stettings and seeing immedately  
how those changes impact the D2JC app's behavior.

Add basic custom business logic (defaults, validation, etc)
Create a Web App.

As far as the rules generated by the Assistant being horrible, I  
have

Class loading problem - taking forever

2009-11-10 Thread John Huss

I have an app that is taking an extremely long time to startup and start
responding to requests (5-10 minutes).  It appears to be spending a huge
amount of time in NSBundle.searchAllBundlesForClassWithName, which has the
ominous logging message:

"NSBundle.searchAllBundlesForClassWithName was invoked.
**This affects performance very badly.** "

What causes this method to be invoked?  It seems to be called in other apps
that work fine so I'm not sure if this is important or not.

For the time-being I've worked around the issue by calling
_NSUtilities.setClassForName for a bunch of classes, but I'm not sure why
this is necessary since I'm not doing that in other apps.

And in general this makes me think it would be better to do
_NSUtilities.setClassForName for everything in Wonder for instance - if
there is a performance (startup time) benefit.

John
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Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread Anjo Krank

The assistants are an excellent example of how easy it is to hit a  
stone wall. I remember I re-created my first project 5 times, because  
I simply couldn't figure how the various things influenced each other.  
Had I known about the rules up-front, I'd at least would have had a  
chance to to things in a more systematic way...


What the default stuff gives is a fancy way to navigate your data,  
much like mysqladmin or the like, only with objects. From there on to  
a "real" app, it's not a cliff, it's a missile cruise...


Cheers, Anjo


Am 10.11.2009 um 15:42 schrieb David Avendasora:



On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote:




I have heard the 'Assistant produces horrible rules use  
RuleModeler' over and over again by very outspoken, well versed  
into the Direct To Web technology developers that have tweaked the  
rulegeneration and parsing themselves (Anjo and Guido come to mind).


They might be right about the WebAssistant, but that means that  
people that are not well versed in that technology do not have a  
possibility to learn how these rules work.


'Read the source code of the available rules' is for a lot of  
people not the first idea that comes to mind I the want to learn a  
new technology that is supposed to be based on rules.


I think that one of the reasons that there seems to be a lack of  
new WebObjects developers (according to Pascal's research) has to  
do with the falling away of these  gentle tools: displaygroups that  
were automagically generated, WebAssistant that made  you whip up a  
crude interface to a database in an hour.


I remember one of the CodeFab guys telling learning WebObjects is  
not difficult because of the steep learning curve, but because  
there is a learning cliff.


A gentler introduction (like the WebAssistant was) into the whole  
rulesystem really helped people to get into WebObjects.


I would be nice if these tools should at least not be broken (like  
they are now with the D2WebService Assisant, the D2WebAssistant)  
until something as gentle came up.


I think this is a really excellent point. This is one of the major  
reasons I didn't walk away from WO when I first started. I didn't  
experience the learning "cliff" at all. I had a fully functional WO  
app without needing to learn a single piece of WO/EOF. I was then  
able to take small steps to understand WebObjects/EOF piece-by- 
piece. I first tried to set a default value and learned the whole  
"awakeFromInsertion" side of things. Then I quickly learned the  
situations in which you don't want to have a reverse to-many  
relationship by simply running my app and seeing how long it took to  
set an Entitie's "Type" when there were thousands of items with that  
Type. Then it was the implications of an object owning the  
destination of it's relationship and then the basics of WO's built- 
in validation system.


It turned the cliff into a gentle slope

I learned a huge amount of EOF before I ever even touched a .wo  
file. By the time I created my first Web components I understood  
exactly where to put UI logic and where to put business logic.


I now use D2JC differently than I did when I was first learning WO,  
but it was fundamental to my being able to wrap my head around what  
EOF was and how it was so fundamentally different from other  
technologies I had used in the past. I didn't have to learn anything  
about components or editing contexts before I could implement my  
business logic. D2JC managed all of that for me.


I think a great flow for a newcomer to learn WO is:

Reverse Engineer an existing DB
Launch a D2JC App that uses that model
Learn how the basics of EOF work and the implications of various  
model settings by changing model stettings and seeing immedately how  
those changes impact the D2JC app's behavior.

Add basic custom business logic (defaults, validation, etc)
Create a Web App.

As far as the rules generated by the Assistant being horrible, I  
have to admin that don't really know, because I've never had to go  
in and modify those rules. The few custom rules I have created are  
in a completely separate file and I use RuleModeler to manage those.


Dave
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Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)



On Nov 10, 2009, at 7:31 AM, Johan Henselmans wrote:




I have heard the 'Assistant produces horrible rules use RuleModeler'  
over and over again by very outspoken, well versed into the Direct  
To Web technology developers that have tweaked the rulegeneration  
and parsing themselves (Anjo and Guido come to mind).


They might be right about the WebAssistant, but that means that  
people that are not well versed in that technology do not have a  
possibility to learn how these rules work.


'Read the source code of the available rules' is for a lot of people  
not the first idea that comes to mind I the want to learn a new  
technology that is supposed to be based on rules.


I think that one of the reasons that there seems to be a lack of new  
WebObjects developers (according to Pascal's research) has to do  
with the falling away of these  gentle tools: displaygroups that  
were automagically generated, WebAssistant that made  you whip up a  
crude interface to a database in an hour.


I remember one of the CodeFab guys telling learning WebObjects is  
not difficult because of the steep learning curve, but because there  
is a learning cliff.


A gentler introduction (like the WebAssistant was) into the whole  
rulesystem really helped people to get into WebObjects.


I would be nice if these tools should at least not be broken (like  
they are now with the D2WebService Assisant, the D2WebAssistant)  
until something as gentle came up.


I think this is a really excellent point. This is one of the major  
reasons I didn't walk away from WO when I first started. I didn't  
experience the learning "cliff" at all. I had a fully functional WO  
app without needing to learn a single piece of WO/EOF. I was then able  
to take small steps to understand WebObjects/EOF piece-by-piece. I  
first tried to set a default value and learned the whole  
"awakeFromInsertion" side of things. Then I quickly learned the  
situations in which you don't want to have a reverse to-many  
relationship by simply running my app and seeing how long it took to  
set an Entitie's "Type" when there were thousands of items with that  
Type. Then it was the implications of an object owning the destination  
of it's relationship and then the basics of WO's built-in validation  
system.


It turned the cliff into a gentle slope

I learned a huge amount of EOF before I ever even touched a .wo file.  
By the time I created my first Web components I understood exactly  
where to put UI logic and where to put business logic.


I now use D2JC differently than I did when I was first learning WO,  
but it was fundamental to my being able to wrap my head around what  
EOF was and how it was so fundamentally different from other  
technologies I had used in the past. I didn't have to learn anything  
about components or editing contexts before I could implement my  
business logic. D2JC managed all of that for me.


I think a great flow for a newcomer to learn WO is:

Reverse Engineer an existing DB
Launch a D2JC App that uses that model
Learn how the basics of EOF work and the implications of various model  
settings by changing model stettings and seeing immedately how those  
changes impact the D2JC app's behavior.

Add basic custom business logic (defaults, validation, etc)
Create a Web App.

As far as the rules generated by the Assistant being horrible, I have  
to admin that don't really know, because I've never had to go in and  
modify those rules. The few custom rules I have created are in a  
completely separate file and I use RuleModeler to manage those.


Dave
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Re: What could that be?

2009-11-10 Thread Denis Frolov

Hi,

We've recently moved to 5.4.3 and hit this bug right away. I've jadded
the _NSWeakMutableArray, added it to our project's build path and
applied a fix - the problem went away. Should I commit it (along with
_NSWeakMutableSet and _NSWeakValueMutableDictionary) to Wonder? If
yes, is it kosher to leave the jadded files as is (formatting, etc)?

ps: It looks like the build of WO with fix never made it to the public
release. The versions in the latest nightly build on ADC do not differ
from ones in 5.4.3.

On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Mike Schrag  wrote:
> _NSWeakMutableArray has

 /*     */   public void removeReference(Object object)
 /*     */   {
 /* 119 */     this.array.removeObject(object);
 /*     */   }
 /*     */
 /*     */   protected void __removeReference(Reference object)
 /*     */   {
 /* 124 */     processQueue();
 /* 125 */     this.array.removeObject(object);
 /*     */   }
>
> i can't speak for anyone else here ... but if _I_ were to jad and fix this
> bug, i would probably move that processQueue() call out of __removeReference
> and put it in removeReference() instead ... that's just me.
>
> i might also look at the equivalent methods in _NSWeakMutableSet and
> Dictionary.
>
> again ..
> i'm just sayin'.
>
> ms
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Re: WOB-Tokenizer

yep .. neither the runtime nor wolips uses that tag. it's almost  
certainly just markers to give hints to the wob validator.


On Nov 10, 2009, at 12:36 AM, phil wrote:


Le 09. 11. 09 09:35, phil a écrit :

Hi,
While doing housekeeping in our Webobjects apps, I found some



tags in our components. I'm not the original writer of the code...  
and I didn't found much documentation on google about these tags.


Does anyone knows where to find documentation?
Or the exact meaning of this one at least?


Best regards

PHiLippe
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I tried to suppress these tags and the javascript that was enclosed  
by or related to those tags still works as intended so I'm wondering  
if it was a tag added by WebOjects Builder to avoid warnings and  
error while validating a page when someone was doing something a  
little out of the standard way.


Could it make some sense ?

Best regards

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Re: Uses for D2JC (was: Gianduia and WO)

2009-11-10 Thread Johan Henselmans


Op 9 nov 2009, om 17:30 heeft Mike Schrag het volgende geschreven:

> I still go back to "why d2jc" -- why not just do d2w? you have the point, i 
> suppose, about the assistant -- if that's a requirement for you, then you're 
> probably a sad panda with d2w (why doesn't this work, again?that's gotta be 
> relatively easily fixable, though everyone i've ever heard says it produces 
> horrid rules). Other than the assistant, the swing approach just seems more 
> complicated in every respect. If you're truly not styling the app at ALL, 
> then I guess you don't care about the cost difference, but as far as "why not 
> get a swing person," the answer is because a swing person is going to cost 
> 50% more and the development cost to make custom swing controls is 
> dramatically higher than tweaking CSS and HTML. I'll grant you that admin 
> apps typically don't have the polish of end-user apps, and that you might not 
> want to bother much, but I still am not feeling why you'd ever do a d2j 
> client over a d2w client. I guess we'll leave it at "'cause you want to" and 
> move along :)
> 

I have heard the 'Assistant produces horrible rules use RuleModeler' over and 
over again by very outspoken, well versed into the Direct To Web technology 
developers that have tweaked the rulegeneration and parsing themselves (Anjo 
and Guido come to mind). 

They might be right about the WebAssistant, but that means that people that are 
not well versed in that technology do not have a possibility to learn how these 
rules work. 

'Read the source code of the available rules' is for a lot of people not the 
first idea that comes to mind I the want to learn a new technology that is 
supposed to be based on rules. 

I think that one of the reasons that there seems to be a lack of new WebObjects 
developers (according to Pascal's research) has to do with the falling away of 
these  gentle tools: displaygroups that were automagically generated, 
WebAssistant that made  you whip up a crude interface to a database in an hour. 

I remember one of the CodeFab guys telling learning WebObjects is not difficult 
because of the steep learning curve, but because there is a learning cliff. 

A gentler introduction (like the WebAssistant was) into the whole rulesystem 
really helped people to get into WebObjects. 

I would be nice if these tools should at least not be broken (like they are now 
with the D2WebService Assisant, the D2WebAssistant) until something as gentle 
came up. 


> ms
> 
> On Nov 9, 2009, at 10:48 AM, David Avendasora wrote:
> 
>> I think we are talking about two different uses of D2JC. I'm not really 
>> suggesting that it should be used to create an end-user UI in most cases. 
>> I'm saying that it is a powerful tool to aid in the development process.
>> 
>> On Nov 6, 2009, at 12:42 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>> 
>>> Sure, I agree yours is real and mine's a picture, but that wasn't really my 
>>> point. My point was about visual mismatch with the native platform. If 
>>> you're OK with the app looking  like Java ... , by all means, ship it. 
>>> I find Java desktop apps to be mostly visually repugnant (the same reason 
>>> that I work on Maclipse, but at least SWT has a fighting chance), and I 
>>> don't believe you can actually make it un-gross without a huge amount of 
>>> work. It's a question of what matters to you, though.
>> 
>> I guess my point is that when D2JC is used as a development tool, I wouldn't 
>> put _any_ work into making it look better. Neither would I for an 
>> CRUD-focused admin app. Sure, a perfectly native UI would be even better, 
>> but the amount of work it would take to make either a Cocoa or a Web UI to 
>> simply aid in development or do CRUD work is more than I think it's worth in 
>> these situations.
>> 
>>> That said, pretty much everything in the main chunk of your email isn't 
>>> really D2JC, it's just D2*. I'm sold already on the RAD value of D2* 
>>> technologies, I'm just not at all convinced that D2JC is the right D2 to 
>>> choose in most cases. If time-to-market is the primary concern, it seems to 
>>> me that you have dramatically faster styling and design capabilities with 
>>> D2W.
>> 
>> I don't style D2JC at all. I use what comes out of the box. How can D2W (or 
>> anything) be faster than that? Sure you can use D2W out-of-the-box too, but 
>> if you think D2JC looks terrible, then the default look of D2W must make 
>> your head explode. I don't use D2JC to design the end-user UI. I'm using it 
>> to help design the Model and the business logic and populate the DB through 
>> EOF instead of SQL. I can get immediate feedback and see the impacts of 
>> these changes without having to write any UI code at all.
>> 
>>> You can hire an designer off the street to do CSS/HTML work for you, 
>>> whereas you'd dump a pile of hours into custom Swing controls.
>> 
>> Couldn't you hire a Swing guy to do swing controls just like you hire a 
>> CSS/HTML guy? In addition to that,

Re: Reset JavaMonitor password

2009-11-10 Thread Cheong Hee (Gmail)


It is there and many thanks to quick reply!
I supposed my password may have been hijacked.  I am sure the password has 
not been changed or forgotten.  Just relief that the rest are in secure 
tunnel.




Take a look in SiteConfig.xml.  IIRC, you can just delete that section.


Chuck




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