Fix: V1.1 Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

V1.1 - 20121028
- Fixed our Apache compilation process for the WebObjects Adapter. The 
default
  'event' MPM module was not suitable. So the MPM module has been set 
to 'prefork'.

- Stress-tested for 1.5 weeks now.

 Original Message 
Subject:Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ
Date:   Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:18:31 -0700
From:   Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists 
To: 	WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dep...@lists.apple.com 





Dear List,

We finally got this working to our client's wishes. Features:

- Complete Deployment Package for WebObjects 5.4.3 on Mountain Lion - 
_OS X 10.8_.

- Newest Apache _httpd 2.4.3_ with update instructions.
- Newest _OpenSSL/1.0.1c_ compiled into Apache, with update instructions.
- WebObjects adaptor - _mod_WebObjects.so_ - tweaked for the newest Apache.
- Configured with builtin gzip _deflate compression_ for fast transfers.
- Configured with _SSL_ - and optional Extended Validation.
- Solved _early wotask startup bug_ with Java application + shell script 
to detect "nonProxy".
- _No need for hostname_ in any of the configuration files. Entirely 
relies on DNS.

- Very easy to install.
- Everything is 64 bit, based on open source code.
- Bypasses Apple's default configuration of Apache httpd, OpenSSL, and more.

Requires:
- Installation of WebObjects 5.4.3
- Latest Wonder JavaMonitor and wotask to be installed in 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/


Request:
- If somebody wishes to integrate this into Project Wonder GitHub. 
Please keep webappz directory structure.

- To make this 100% PCI DSS compliant.

Instructions:
- Please email me to request your copy - a 9MB gzip file
- Decompress and install "/webappz" in root directory.
- Change ownership: "chown -R root:wheel /webappz"
- All configuration files are in "/webappz/conf". Changes are labeled 
#WEBAPPZ

- All instruction files are in "/webappz/readme".
- Put your ssl certificate files in "/webappz/ssl/"
- Configure "/webappz/conf/httpd-ssl.conf" for your ssl certificate 
files needs.
- If your ssl certificate files are encrypted, please build 
"getsslparaphrase" as shown in "/webappz/readme/BuildingInstructions.txt"
- Implement the LaunchD files as explained in 
"/webappz/readme/LaunchDfiles.txt"


I hope this will solve many deployment headaches we have recently seen 
on the deployment list. Enjoy!


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With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
(+1) 604.921.1333
www.webappz.com  &www.scheduleDS.com  &www.1tracker.com





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Re: WOWODC 2013: call for presenters

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On 21/Oct/12 1:52 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
--> Make it so!


Au Pied is not just good food.  It is M Picard's TEMPLE OF EXCESS!

:-)


On 2012-10-21, at 11:58 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Bah, for Europeans, all of the food in Montreal is average :-)

We should try to go to Joe Beef next year.  http://joebeef.ca/


Yes, Chuck. You're completely right.

So I rephrase:  …I come with the Sophiacom team (Yoann and maybe someone else) to meet 
the community, for religious experience like "Au pied de Cochon", not for 
entertainments.

Philippe

On 21 oct. 2012, at 18:28, Chuck Hill wrote:


On 2012-10-21, at 5:27 AM, Philippe Rabier wrote:


Hi Pascal,

Depending on the period, we will have some stuffs to show. However, the airfare and hotel 
are a big concern. Even if I understand that Jazz festival is great event, everything is 
more expensive and july/august is bad also (because it's more expensive and because our 
team can be in vacations during this period). To be crystal clear, I come with the 
Sophiacom team (Yoann and maybe someone else) to meet the community, not for 
entertainments (except "Au pied de Cochon" ;-)).

Entertainment?  I thought Au Pied was a religious experience.  :-)


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Re: help-tweaked mod_WebObjects.so with Apache 2.4.3

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Hi Hieu,

You can use the one from our Mountain Lion Deployment Package; or are 
you looking for another OS?


I think we've got it under pretty good control right now after some 
Apache tweaks.


We'll submit the next version of our package soon; once this has been 
stable for a week under heavy load.


Greetings,

Dennis

On 21/Oct/12 8:43 AM, Hieu Nguyen wrote:


Hello,

I am new to the list. I need help to tweaked mod_WebObjects.so with 
Apache 2.4.3. I recompile the mod_WebObjects.so with Apache 2.4.3 but 
it won't load. Please advice. Thanks.


Regards,

Hieu Nguyen

# ./apachectl start

httpd: Syntax error on line 165 of /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf: 
Cannot load modules/mod_WebObjects.so into server: ld.so.1: httpd: 
fatal: relocation error: file 
/usr/local/apache2/modules/mod_WebObjects.so: symbol 
ap_get_server_version: referenced symbol not found


#



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Re: Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

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Hi Maik,

Thank you for your comments. Yes, being partially German myself, I am 
used to this tone of "constructive" criticism. Please realize that I am 
trying to help others on this list who have been through the same issues.



On 05/Oct/12 12:00 PM, Maik Musall wrote:

Dennis,

I hope you don't feel offended when I post some criticism of this, but I think 
such an announcement deserves serious replies. What I have to say might however 
not exactly be what you want to hear.

Am 04.10.2012 um 22:18 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists 
:

- Complete Deployment Package for WebObjects 5.4.3 on Mountain Lion - OS X 10.8.
- Newest Apache httpd 2.4.3 with update instructions.
- Newest OpenSSL/1.0.1c compiled into Apache, with update instructions.
- WebObjects adaptor - mod_WebObjects.so - tweaked for the newest Apache.

As Apple doesn't make serious server hardware any more, the primary deployment 
platform is probably not OS X but Linux by now. And I'd rather rely on the 
Linux distribution to give me a proper Apache/SSL/whatever compilation that is 
kept up to date by the distribution maintainers. Or did you make a whole 
package delivery system as well, to seemlessly deliver e.g. an OpenSSL update 
if a vulnerability is published in the version you initially packaged?


This is a matter of opinion. We know many shops that deploy on the Mac 
Os X Platform and would never even consider Linux, but I do understand 
that there are those who prefer an open source platform.





- Configured with builtin gzip deflate compression for fast transfers.
- Configured with SSL - and optional Extended Validation.

(At our site, SSL and gzip is handled by loadbalancers in front of the 
webservers anyway, but I realize that's not everybody's setup.)
Again, just a simple example of having everything in one simple 
configuration.





Request:
- If somebody wishes to integrate this into Project Wonder GitHub. Please keep 
webappz directory structure.

Frankly, this is a no-go. I'm not going to install any such stuff in a /webappz 
directory on my hard disk roots. I don't want any non-standard directories 
there at all, and certainly not one named after some company. Besides, we 
probably aren't the only ones using NAS or SAN services to host the project 
stuff, so this would have to go elsewhere in the directory structure anywhere.
I was more so thinking of the updated Adaptor source for Apache/httpd 
2.4.3.
For the compiled binaries, the /webappz directory was meant to keep 
things simple and in one place.





- To make this 100% PCI DSS compliant.


Do your customers demand that? If yes: is OS X ML Server certified? Is your 
custom setup certified, and it's components? And if no: why care anyway? ;~)
This is not relevant. We would like to achieve the best possible scan 
results.




And regarding Frontbase, in your other post: who guarantees that frontbase.com 
isn't shut down tomorrow, your server dies the day after and there's nobody 
issueing a new license for your replacement hardware? Especially given the lack 
of activity around the product in recent years, I find it rather lightheaded to 
still rely on this RDBMS in production. And don't even get me started on the 
technical details...

Maik
Well, sorry, but we like Frontbase! We have been running this database 
server since 2006 without any problems, and can configure it any way we 
like. If Frontbase were to ever shut down, it would be very easy to 
switch to another DB since our code is completely database transparent.


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Fwd: Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,

I forgot one thing in the instructions. This is, however,  in the 
/webappz/readme/ReadMe.txt file:


Since "/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall" did not solve our early wotask 
startup bug correctly, we wrote our own code:


- Near the end of file "/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/wotaskd",
  right after "Launch the Application": insert one line:

#
# Launch the application.
#
/webappz/conf/WaitForNetwork





 Original Message 
Subject:Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ
Date:   Thu, 04 Oct 2012 13:18:31 -0700
From:   Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists 
To: 	WebObjects-Dev Mailing List List webobjects-dep...@lists.apple.com 
, Chuck Hill , 
Pascal Robert 




Dear List,

We finally got this working to our client's wishes. Features:

- Complete Deployment Package for WebObjects 5.4.3 on Mountain Lion - 
_OS X 10.8_.

- Newest Apache _httpd 2.4.3_ with update instructions.
- Newest _OpenSSL/1.0.1c_ compiled into Apache, with update instructions.
- WebObjects adaptor - _mod_WebObjects.so_ - tweaked for the newest Apache.
- Configured with builtin gzip _deflate compression_ for fast transfers.
- Configured with _SSL_ - and optional Extended Validation.
- Solved _early wotask startup bug_ with Java application + shell script 
to detect "nonProxy".
- _No need for hostname_ in any of the configuration files. Entirely 
relies on DNS.

- Very easy to install.
- Everything is 64 bit, based on open source code.
- Bypasses Apple's default configuration of Apache httpd, OpenSSL, and more.

Requires:
- Installation of WebObjects 5.4.3
- Latest Wonder JavaMonitor and wotask to be installed in 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/


Request:
- If somebody wishes to integrate this into Project Wonder GitHub. 
Please keep webappz directory structure.

- To make this 100% PCI DSS compliant.

Instructions:
- Please email me to request your copy - a 9MB gzip file
- Decompress and install "/webappz" in root directory.
- Change ownership: "chown -R root:wheel /webappz"
- All configuration files are in "/webappz/conf". Changes are labeled 
#WEBAPPZ

- All instruction files are in "/webappz/readme".
- Put your ssl certificate files in "/webappz/ssl/"
- Configure "/webappz/conf/httpd-ssl.conf" for your ssl certificate 
files needs.
- If your ssl certificate files are encrypted, please build 
"getsslparaphrase" as shown in "/webappz/readme/BuildingInstructions.txt"
- Implement the LaunchD files as explained in 
"/webappz/readme/LaunchDfiles.txt"


I hope this will solve many deployment headaches we have recently seen 
on the deployment list. Enjoy!


--
With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
(+1) 604.921.1333
www.webappz.com  &www.scheduleDS.com  &www.1tracker.com





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Re: Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Mitchel,

We are all for FrontBase from Geert!  www.frontbase.com

The goal here is to achieve 100% PCI DSS compliance, and share this with 
the WebObjects community. There are some tiny things we still need 
figure out.


We also wanted to break free from Apple's use of Apache in the "Mountain 
Lion / OS X Server" Setup, in order to achieve higher performance, 
better security, newest versions of httpd+OpenSSL, and easier configuration.


Could Pascal or anybody else facilitate us to put this up on 
www.wocommity.org? Or put the file there for downloading?


With Kind Regards,

Dennis

On 05/Oct/12 10:10 AM, Mitchel Roider wrote:

Hello,

Thanks for posting this info.  I would love to get a copy of the gzp install 
package.

I do have 2 questions.

1.What DB do you use in deployment?

2.I also think it would be great if you post somewhere either here on the list 
or on the wocommunity wiki a more detailed step by step
to create the package you built.  This way anyone could do it and see your 
decision making process during the package construction.

Thanks

Mitch Roider


On Oct 4, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

We finally got this working to our client's wishes. Features:

- Complete Deployment Package for WebObjects 5.4.3 on Mountain Lion - OS X 10.8.
- Newest Apache httpd 2.4.3 with update instructions.
- Newest OpenSSL/1.0.1c compiled into Apache, with update instructions.
- WebObjects adaptor - mod_WebObjects.so - tweaked for the newest Apache.
- Configured with builtin gzip deflate compression for fast transfers.
- Configured with SSL - and optional Extended Validation.
- Solved early wotask startup bug with Java application + shell script to detect 
"nonProxy".
- No need for hostname in any of the configuration files. Entirely relies on 
DNS.
- Very easy to install.
- Everything is 64 bit, based on open source code.
- Bypasses Apple's default configuration of Apache httpd, OpenSSL, and more.

Requires:
- Installation of WebObjects 5.4.3
- Latest Wonder JavaMonitor and wotask to be installed in 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/

Request:
- If somebody wishes to integrate this into Project Wonder GitHub. Please keep 
webappz directory structure.
- To make this 100% PCI DSS compliant.

Instructions:
- Please email me to request your copy - a 9MB gzip file
- Decompress and install "/webappz" in root directory.
- Change ownership: "chown -R root:wheel /webappz"
- All configuration files are in "/webappz/conf". Changes are labeled #WEBAPPZ
- All instruction files are in "/webappz/readme".
- Put your ssl certificate files in "/webappz/ssl/"
- Configure "/webappz/conf/httpd-ssl.conf" for your ssl certificate files needs.
- If your ssl certificate files are encrypted, please build "getsslparaphrase" as shown 
in "/webappz/readme/BuildingInstructions.txt"
- Implement the LaunchD files as explained in "/webappz/readme/LaunchDfiles.txt"

I hope this will solve many deployment headaches we have recently seen on the 
deployment list. Enjoy!
--
With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
(+1) 604.921.1333

www.webappz.com & www.scheduleDS.com & www.1tracker.com






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Re: mac os x 10.8.1 xcode 4.4 FAILED try to compile Web_Objects.so

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Please look at my email from yesterday:

Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

Greetings,

Dennis

On 02/Oct/12 2:49 PM, Brook, James wrote:

I had the same problem. I got the adaptor to compile by manually modifying the 
/usr/sbin/apxs script. On the lines where 'libtool' is called I added "--tag 
CC" to the list of arguments. That's in two places.

I am not sure why that is necessary because according to the manual libtool 
should try to infer the language being compiled for and failing that it should 
default to the C language (that's what the CC tag is for).

I have never had this problem before but today I upgraded to Mountain Lion and 
installed the latest XCode developer tools.  The Mountain Lion upgrade seems to 
have upgraded Apache files including the apxs script.

I assume there must be a better solution to this problem. Any ideas?

On Sep 3, 2012, at 1:13 PM, Ron X  wrote:


vm-mlion-01:~ esuser$ gcc -v
Using built-in specs.
Target: i686-apple-darwin11
Configured with: /private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2336.11~28/src/configure 
--disable-checking --enable-werror 
--prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/llvm-gcc-4.2 
--mandir=/share/man --enable-languages=c,objc,c++,obj-c++ 
--program-prefix=llvm- --program-transform-name=/^[cg][^.-]*$/s/$/-4.2/ 
--with-slibdir=/usr/lib --build=i686-apple-darwin11 
--enable-llvm=/private/var/tmp/llvmgcc42/llvmgcc42-2336.11~28/dst-llvmCore/Developer/usr/local
 --program-prefix=i686-apple-darwin11- --host=x86_64-apple-darwin11 
--target=i686-apple-darwin11 --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
Thread model: posix
gcc version 4.2.1 (Based on Apple Inc. build 5658) (LLVM build 2336.11.00)

2012/9/3 Johann Werner 
If you type

gcc -v

on your command line what output do you get?


Am 03.09.2012 um 07:37 schrieb Ron X :


hi!
no, have the same problem:

vm-mlion-01:~ esuser$ cd Documents/wonder.old/Utilities/Adaptors/
vm-mlion-01:Adaptors esuser$ ls
APPLE_LICENSEInstallationInstructions.html
AdaptorMakefile
ApacheNSAPI
Apache2PB.project
Apache2.2WonderReadme.html
BuildingInstructions.htmlexample.xml
CGImake.config
FastCGIwoadaptor.dtd
IISwoadaptor.xml
vm-mlion-01:Adaptors esuser$ make ADAPTORS=Apache2.2 OS=MACOS 
APXS=/usr/sbin/apxs
cd Apache2.2 ; make
/usr/sbin/apxs -c -S CC=gcc -Wc,"-O2 -I/usr/include/apache2  -I../Adaptor  
-DSINGLE_THREADED_ADAPTOR -DMACOS -DFORKING_WEBSERVER -DAPACHE   -Wall  -arch x86_64  -arch 
i386" -Wl,"  -arch x86_64  -arch i386 -macosx_version_min 10.5 -lm -module" 
mod_WebObjects.c ../Adaptor/MoreURLCUtilities.c ../Adaptor/Platform.c ../Adaptor/WOURLCUtilities.c 
../Adaptor/WOURLCUtilities_3.c ../Adaptor/appcfg.c ../Adaptor/cfgparse.c ../Adaptor/config.c 
../Adaptor/hostlookup.c ../Adaptor/list.c ../Adaptor/listing.c ../Adaptor/loadaverage.c 
../Adaptor/loadbalancing.c ../Adaptor/log.c ../Adaptor/nbsocket.c ../Adaptor/random.c 
../Adaptor/request.c ../Adaptor/response.c ../Adaptor/roundrobin.c ../Adaptor/shmem.c 
../Adaptor/strdict.c ../Adaptor/strtbl.c ../Adaptor/transaction.c ../Adaptor/transport.c 
../Adaptor/wastring.c ../Adaptor/womalloc.c ../Adaptor/xmlcparser.c ../Adaptor/xmlctokenizer.c 
../Adaptor/xmlparse.c
/usr/share/apr-1/build-1/libtool --silent --mode=compile gcc-DDARWIN 
-DSIGPROCMASK_SETS_THREAD_MASK -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/include/apache2  
-I/usr/include/apr-1   -I/usr/include/apr-1  -O2 -I/usr/include/apache2  -I../Adaptor  
-DSINGLE_THREADED_ADAPTOR -DMACOS -DFORKING_WEBSERVER -DAPACHE   -Wall  -arch x86_64  
-arch i386  -c -o mod_WebObjects.lo mod_WebObjects.c && touch mod_WebObjects.slo
libtool: compile: unable to infer tagged configuration
libtool: compile: specify a tag with `--tag'
apxs:Error: Command failed with rc=65536
.
make[1]: *** [mod_WebObjects.so] Error 1
make: *** [Apache2.2] Error 2
vm-mlion-01:Adaptors esuser$ cd A
APPLE_LICENSE  Adaptor/   Apache/Apache2/   Apache2.2/
vm-mlion-01:Adaptors esuser$ cd Apache2.2/
vm-mlion-01:Apache2.2 esuser$ make ADAPTORS=Apache2.2 OS=MACOS 
APXS=/usr/sbin/apxs
/usr/sbin/apxs -c -S CC=gcc -Wc,"-O2 -I/usr/include/apache2  -I../Adaptor  
-DSINGLE_THREADED_ADAPTOR -DMACOS -DFORKING_WEBSERVER -DAPACHE   -Wall  -arch x86_64  -arch 
i386" -Wl,"  -arch x86_64  -arch i386 -macosx_version_min 10.5 -lm -module" 
mod_WebObjects.c ../Adaptor/MoreURLCUtilities.c ../Adaptor/Platform.c ../Adaptor/WOURLCUtilities.c 
../Adaptor/WOURLCUtilities_3.c ../Adaptor/appcfg.c ../Adaptor/cfgparse.c ../Adaptor/config.c 
../Adaptor/hostlookup.c ../Adaptor/list.c ../Adaptor/listing.c ../Adaptor/loadaverage.c 
../Adaptor/loadbalancing.c ../Adaptor/log.c ../Adaptor/nbsocket.c ../Adaptor/random.c 
../Adaptor/request.c ../Adaptor/response.c ../Adaptor/roundrobin.c ../Adaptor/shmem.c 
../Adaptor/strdict.c ../Adaptor/strtbl.c ../Adaptor/transaction.c ../Adaptor/transport.c 
../Adaptor/wastring.c ../Adaptor/womalloc.c ../Ada

Mountain Lion WO Deployment Package by WEBAPPZ

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,

We finally got this working to our client's wishes. Features:

- Complete Deployment Package for WebObjects 5.4.3 on Mountain Lion - 
_OS X 10.8_.

- Newest Apache _httpd 2.4.3_ with update instructions.
- Newest _OpenSSL/1.0.1c_ compiled into Apache, with update instructions.
- WebObjects adaptor - _mod_WebObjects.so_ - tweaked for the newest Apache.
- Configured with builtin gzip _deflate compression_ for fast transfers.
- Configured with _SSL_ - and optional Extended Validation.
- Solved _early wotask startup bug_ with Java application + shell script 
to detect "nonProxy".
- _No need for hostname_ in any of the configuration files. Entirely 
relies on DNS.

- Very easy to install.
- Everything is 64 bit, based on open source code.
- Bypasses Apple's default configuration of Apache httpd, OpenSSL, and more.

Requires:
- Installation of WebObjects 5.4.3
- Latest Wonder JavaMonitor and wotask to be installed in 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/


Request:
- If somebody wishes to integrate this into Project Wonder GitHub. 
Please keep webappz directory structure.

- To make this 100% PCI DSS compliant.

Instructions:
- Please email me to request your copy - a 9MB gzip file
- Decompress and install "/webappz" in root directory.
- Change ownership: "chown -R root:wheel /webappz"
- All configuration files are in "/webappz/conf". Changes are labeled 
#WEBAPPZ

- All instruction files are in "/webappz/readme".
- Put your ssl certificate files in "/webappz/ssl/"
- Configure "/webappz/conf/httpd-ssl.conf" for your ssl certificate 
files needs.
- If your ssl certificate files are encrypted, please build 
"getsslparaphrase" as shown in "/webappz/readme/BuildingInstructions.txt"
- Implement the LaunchD files as explained in 
"/webappz/readme/LaunchDfiles.txt"


I hope this will solve many deployment headaches we have recently seen 
on the deployment list. Enjoy!


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WebObjects Adaptor for Apache 2.4.3

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Dear List,

We would like to try compiling the WebObjects Adaptor for Apache 2.4.3.

Our goal is to run the newest OpenSSL/1.0.1c with Apache httpd/2.4.3 on 
Mountain Lion 8.1 on our servers.


Questions:
1] Where do we download the source?
2] Is there a difference between the Wonder and the Apple Adaptor?
3] On the mailing lists, we have only seen "Apache", "Apache2", and 
"Apache2.2". Is anybody aware of an "Apache2.4" or will this be our 
undertaking?


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Re: New locations for community resources

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Hi Pascal,

Thanks for doing this. Does this mean we should switch from mdimension?

Also wondering if we could add a deployment section, with Ken's, 
Simon's, and my stuff on taming the big Lion Server Beast with SSDs. 
Maybe with the Apache adapter section.


With kind Regards,

Dennis.

On 08/Mar/12 4:00 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Good morning everyone,

All community resources are now on wocommunity.org

WOLips 3.7 stable:

   http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/stable

WOLips 3.7 latest:

   http://wocommunity.org/wolips/3.7/current

Wonder builds:

   http://jenkins.wocommunity.org/view/Wonder/

Wonder JavaDoc:

   Wonder stable (master branch):  
http://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/wonder/stable
   Wonder latest (integration branch):  
http://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/wonder/latest
   Wonder legacy (for 5.3):  
http://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/wonder/legacy

WebObjects JavaDoc:

   http://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/WebObjects/5.4.2/
   http://wocommunity.org/documents/javadoc/WebObjects/5.3/

JProlifer 6 plugin:

   http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/jprofiler6/

Jadclipse:

   http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/jadclipse/

RuleModeler/eomodeldoc.jar/WOInstaller.jar

   http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/

Apache adaptors:

   http://wocommunity.org/documents/tools/mod_WebObjects/

If you have links to the resources in other locations, please change your links 
so that Google picks up the changes. If you see anything missing from the list, 
please say so.

Thanks.


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Re: Funny WebObjects Adaptor

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Simon et al,

Thanks, I really appreciate your kind emails over the last week. We just 
switched over the client to the new servers yesterday, and so far no 
problems.


How do you like the new (Lion) dock on:

https://cluster3.webappz.com

Greetings,

Dennis

On 04/Mar/12 6:31 PM, Simon J Oliver (sjoliver) wrote:
Looks like your index page is being served via SSL. So are you 
requesting the app over SSL when you click the link? In which case, it 
appears that the WO adaptor isn't working under SSL. Exactly what has 
to happen to make that work (or perhaps, how you managed to make it 
NOT work) I'm not sure... but that seems to be the relevant bit of the 
problem that needs solving :-)


Simon



On Mar 4, 2012, at 8:19 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi List,

Thanks for your kind help in the past with our new complicated Lion 
Server SSD Deployment setup.

Everything is working and rebooting smoothly now.

Still one funny thing:

vds4.webappz.com <http://vds4.webappz.com> 185.17.119.103 - - 
[04/Mar/2012:18:11:04 -0800] "GET /cgi-bin/WebObjects/bizDAV 
HTTP/1.1" 200 7851 
"http://vds4:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/wo/S3ycOXZ5plo9m90a00MsZ0/1.0.5.19.1.2.9"; 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7"


vds4.webappz.com <http://vds4.webappz.com> 185.17.119.103 - - 
[04/Mar/2012:18:13:07 -0800] "GET /cgi-bin/WebObjects/bivDAV 
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "https://vds4.webappz.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/5.0 
(Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like 
Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7"


>From monitor, clicking to the application, bizDAV, everything is 
swell; however, from index.html, no success, and the famous "The 
requested application was not found on this server.". Both URLs are 
identical, but apache in one case has a 404 in the above logs. Why 
does this not work correctly?


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Re: Funny WebObjects Adaptor

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Thanks Q,

I guess working on taming the Lion over the last weeks makes you 
overlook the most basic details. :-)


Greetings,

Dennis

On 04/Mar/12 7:00 PM, Q wrote:

bivDAV  != bizDAV

On 05/03/2012, at 12:19 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi List,

Thanks for your kind help in the past with our new complicated Lion Server SSD 
Deployment setup.
Everything is working and rebooting smoothly now.

Still one funny thing:

vds4.webappz.com 185.17.119.103 - - [04/Mar/2012:18:11:04 -0800] "GET /cgi-bin/WebObjects/bizDAV 
HTTP/1.1" 200 7851 
"http://vds4:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/wo/S3ycOXZ5plo9m90a00MsZ0/1.0.5.19.1.2.9"; 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 
Safari/534.52.7"

vds4.webappz.com 185.17.119.103 - - [04/Mar/2012:18:13:07 -0800] "GET /cgi-bin/WebObjects/bivDAV 
HTTP/1.1" 404 109 "https://vds4.webappz.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel 
Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7"

 From monitor, clicking to the application, bizDAV, everything is swell; however, from 
index.html, no success, and the famous "The requested application was not found on 
this server.". Both URLs are identical, but apache in one case has a 404 in the 
above logs. Why does this not work correctly?

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Funny WebObjects Adaptor

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi List,

Thanks for your kind help in the past with our new complicated Lion 
Server SSD Deployment setup.

Everything is working and rebooting smoothly now.

Still one funny thing:

vds4.webappz.com 185.17.119.103 - - [04/Mar/2012:18:11:04 -0800] "GET 
/cgi-bin/WebObjects/bizDAV HTTP/1.1" 200 7851 
"http://vds4:56789/cgi-bin/WebObjects/JavaMonitor.woa/wo/S3ycOXZ5plo9m90a00MsZ0/1.0.5.19.1.2.9"; 
"Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 
(KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 Safari/534.52.7"


vds4.webappz.com 185.17.119.103 - - [04/Mar/2012:18:13:07 -0800] "GET 
/cgi-bin/WebObjects/bivDAV HTTP/1.1" 404 109 
"https://vds4.webappz.com/index.html"; "Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac 
OS X 10_6_8) AppleWebKit/534.52.7 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/5.1.2 
Safari/534.52.7"


From monitor, clicking to the application, bizDAV, everything is swell; 
however, from index.html, no success, and the famous "The requested 
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apache in one case has a 404 in the above logs. Why does this not work 
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Re: 5.4 uploading large files

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Apple ran out of money and can't afford to release it; they would just 
have to dump WebObjects on us. :-)


On 04/Mar/12 2:11 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Well, I wish you luck. I'm not going to fight with Apple Legal for years, I 
prefer actually moving the community forward and stopping looking at the past.


Apple is a North American company. So wouldn't a class action suit make sense? 
We all have a lot riding on WebObjects and Apple has terminated us in 2009 
without any proper notice period and reasoning. I am sure we could get over a 
1000 participants.

Dennis

On 04/Mar/12 7:16 AM, Matteo Centro wrote:

It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, 
count me in!

Matteo

Sent from my iPhone

On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjak   wrote:


I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be 
supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders 
we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an 
motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders 
meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have 
the power to decide on this issue.

The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount 
total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote 
because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will 
help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story.

I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, 
many others) and therefore it is our company.

Regards

Helmut
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Re: 5.4 uploading large files

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Apple is a North American company. So wouldn't a class action suit make 
sense? We all have a lot riding on WebObjects and Apple has terminated 
us in 2009 without any proper notice period and reasoning. I am sure we 
could get over a 1000 participants.


Dennis

On 04/Mar/12 7:16 AM, Matteo Centro wrote:

It is certainly a good point... Don't know if it makes sense in real life but, 
count me in!

Matteo

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On 04/mar/2012, at 11:54, Helmut Tschemernjak  wrote:


I have an idea how to make Apple aware that the WebObjects is important to be 
supported or opened to the community. We need to get as many Apple shareholders 
we can, to demand with a significant amount of stock owners, bringing up an 
motion to discuss the WebObjects support in an extra announced shareholders 
meeting. Once this meeting gets setup, the attendees (and mandates) votes have 
the power to decide on this issue.

The trick is that the amount a attending votes will count and not the amount 
total votes/shares available. Also Apple employes and relatives cannot vote 
because there is a conflict of interest. I sure that Jim Cramer with CNBC will 
help to mobilize additional shareholders because it is a great story.

I personally know, we are the owners of Apple (my wife, company, me, friends, 
many others) and therefore it is our company.

Regards

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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi List,

This is how I ended up fixing it.

Edit File, nano /Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/wotask, added 
almost at bottom, just before "Launch the application":


#

# Verify network services are initialized before starting

#

echo Checking network services and sleeping for 40 seconds 

/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall

sleep 40

/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor, added almost 
at bottom, just before "Launch the application":


#

# Verify network services are initialized before starting

#

echo Checking network services and sleeping for 50 seconds 

/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall

sleep 50

/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall

#

# Restart Apache - to pick up on correctly working wotaksd

#

echo Restarting Apache

/usr/sbin/apachectl restart

EndFragment

On 03/Mar/12 1:19 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
Hi All, just tested this, but it did not help. Still JavaMonitor was 
not externally reachable and the "requested application was not 
found". Only re-starting the wotask, JavaMonitor, and apache manually 
makes it work.


Question: Is this why it was taken out from the Wonder variants? 
because it does not work anyhow?


Thanks,

Dennis.

On 02/Mar/12 9:28 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It runs quickly when everything is up, I don't see a reason to not include it 
in all the scripts.

Chuck

On 2012-03-02, at 2:23 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


It's woproject that will need to be changed since it's woproject job to create 
the launch scripts. So we have to decide if any applications build by woproject 
should have the ipconfig call or it's only for wotaskd and Monitor. I think it 
should be for all applications, because if someone is launching a WO app 
without wotaskd at startup (for example, a product build and sold as a .woa), 
having the call would be useful.


I was just diffing the application launch scripts for a default 
wotaskd/javamonitor that I had lying around (not exactly sure which version - 
probably from 5.3.x) and the Wonder versions - i.e., wotaskd.woa/wotaskd and 
JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor (not the launchd code).

In both cases the stock versions include the following code right before the 
application is launched - and which is not present in the Wonder versions of 
the apps (or in my own built apps):

# Verify network services are intialized before starting
#
echo Checking network services
if [ "${PLATFORM_TYPE}" = "Darwin" ]
then
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
fi
#

It seems that Apple recognized this problem, and took steps to customize each 
of these 'likely to be launched boot time' applications' boot scripts to deal 
with it.

Is there a way to build the Wonder versions to include modified launch scripts 
by default? Alternatively, I think you could go with my earlier idea of a 
dedicated launchd task to wait for the interfaces at that point, and then bring 
up wotaskd, Monitor and Apache once the network is ready.

Simon




On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:21 PM,
  wrote:


I recall modifying the app.woa/app startup script at the end.

Basically, wotaskd should start first (it will start your app), then after it 
is running javamonitor should start. The tail end of my wotaskd.woa/wotaskd is 
like:

#
# Launch the application.
#
# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 100

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


And for my  JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor:

# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 240

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


So I had javamonitor trying to restart wotaskd which was waiting for things to 
happen. This did not allow proper startup. With the wait and extra time for 
javamonitor reboots work properly.

I think the apple wo 5.4.3 startups had some waiting; this is the Wonder 
versions I had to modify.

A wait maybe should be added to the Wonder wotaskd and JavaMonitor startup 
scripts.

I could be wrong, of course.

Greg Brown
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Re: 5.4 uploading large files

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Hi List,

Why has Apple decided to abandon us? What can  we do to get Apple 
releasing WebObjects like it used to?


Thanks,

Dennis.

On 03/Mar/12 4:29 PM, John Huss wrote:
As Mike said above it is already fixed in Apple's version of WO.  But 
you're never going to see that version.  So if you want a fix you have 
to roll your own.


John

On Saturday, March 3, 2012, Helmut Tschemernjak > wrote:

>
> we investigated in the past into the > 2.1GB form upload limitation. 
I reported this via the Apple Bug Reporter earlier this year. I feel 
it is not hard to fix, hopefully Apple spends a day or two to fix it. 
See my report below.

>
> Regards
>
> Helmut Tschemernjak
>
> ---
> Bug Reporter Problem ID: 10765546
> Subject: WebObjects 5.4.3 large request (> 2.1GB)
>
> Summary:
> Requests larger than 2.1GB (uploading large files) fail.
> The class com.webobjects.appserver._private.WOHttpIO tries to parse 
the content-length header with the method parseInt of the Integer 
class. This will fail for all files larger than 2.1GB. Further there 
are many instances in the code that make use of an integer for the 
content length of a request:

> WOInputStreamData: public WOInputStreamData(InputStream, int)
> WORequest: public int _contentLengthHeader()
> Also classes not directly involved in the request handling do show 
such a limitation (e.g. public NSRange(int, int)).

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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi G Brown,

Thanks.

Yes, have been doing something like that and that seems to work so far, 
but still no "application found"; now working on restarting apache as 
well. When done, I will post my results.


Dennis

On 03/Mar/12 4:42 PM, G Brown wrote:

Hi,

Just wondering, did you put some extra time in wotaksd, like:


/bin/sleep 100


and  some in JavaMonitor:


/bin/sleep 200


?


On Mar 3, 2012, at 4:19 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:

Hi All, just tested this, but it did not help. Still JavaMonitor was 
not externally reachable and the "requested application was not 
found". Only re-starting the wotask, JavaMonitor, and apache manually 
makes it work.


Question: Is this why it was taken out from the Wonder variants? 
because it does not work anyhow?


Thanks,

Dennis.

On 02/Mar/12 9:28 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It runs quickly when everything is up, I don't see a reason to not include it 
in all the scripts.

Chuck

On 2012-03-02, at 2:23 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


It's woproject that will need to be changed since it's woproject job to create 
the launch scripts. So we have to decide if any applications build by woproject 
should have the ipconfig call or it's only for wotaskd and Monitor. I think it 
should be for all applications, because if someone is launching a WO app 
without wotaskd at startup (for example, a product build and sold as a .woa), 
having the call would be useful.


I was just diffing the application launch scripts for a default 
wotaskd/javamonitor that I had lying around (not exactly sure which version - 
probably from 5.3.x) and the Wonder versions - i.e., wotaskd.woa/wotaskd and 
JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor (not the launchd code).

In both cases the stock versions include the following code right before the 
application is launched - and which is not present in the Wonder versions of 
the apps (or in my own built apps):

# Verify network services are intialized before starting
#
echo Checking network services
if [ "${PLATFORM_TYPE}" = "Darwin" ]
then
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
fi
#

It seems that Apple recognized this problem, and took steps to customize each 
of these 'likely to be launched boot time' applications' boot scripts to deal 
with it.

Is there a way to build the Wonder versions to include modified launch scripts 
by default? Alternatively, I think you could go with my earlier idea of a 
dedicated launchd task to wait for the interfaces at that point, and then bring 
up wotaskd, Monitor and Apache once the network is ready.

Simon




On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:21 PM,
  wrote:


I recall modifying the app.woa/app startup script at the end.

Basically, wotaskd should start first (it will start your app), then after it 
is running javamonitor should start. The tail end of my wotaskd.woa/wotaskd is 
like:

#
# Launch the application.
#
# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 100

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


And for my  JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor:

# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 240

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


So I had javamonitor trying to restart wotaskd which was waiting for things to 
happen. This did not allow proper startup. With the wait and extra time for 
javamonitor reboots work properly.

I think the apple wo 5.4.3 startups had some waiting; this is the Wonder 
versions I had to modify.

A wait maybe should be added to the Wonder wotaskd and JavaMonitor startup 
scripts.

I could be wrong, of course.

Greg Brown
gsbr...@umich.edu



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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi All, just tested this, but it did not help. Still JavaMonitor was not 
externally reachable and the "requested application was not found". Only 
re-starting the wotask, JavaMonitor, and apache manually makes it work.


Question: Is this why it was taken out from the Wonder variants? because 
it does not work anyhow?


Thanks,

Dennis.

On 02/Mar/12 9:28 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

It runs quickly when everything is up, I don't see a reason to not include it 
in all the scripts.

Chuck

On 2012-03-02, at 2:23 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


It's woproject that will need to be changed since it's woproject job to create 
the launch scripts. So we have to decide if any applications build by woproject 
should have the ipconfig call or it's only for wotaskd and Monitor. I think it 
should be for all applications, because if someone is launching a WO app 
without wotaskd at startup (for example, a product build and sold as a .woa), 
having the call would be useful.


I was just diffing the application launch scripts for a default 
wotaskd/javamonitor that I had lying around (not exactly sure which version - 
probably from 5.3.x) and the Wonder versions - i.e., wotaskd.woa/wotaskd and 
JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor (not the launchd code).

In both cases the stock versions include the following code right before the 
application is launched - and which is not present in the Wonder versions of 
the apps (or in my own built apps):

# Verify network services are intialized before starting
#
echo Checking network services
if [ "${PLATFORM_TYPE}" = "Darwin" ]
then
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
fi
#

It seems that Apple recognized this problem, and took steps to customize each 
of these 'likely to be launched boot time' applications' boot scripts to deal 
with it.

Is there a way to build the Wonder versions to include modified launch scripts 
by default? Alternatively, I think you could go with my earlier idea of a 
dedicated launchd task to wait for the interfaces at that point, and then bring 
up wotaskd, Monitor and Apache once the network is ready.

Simon




On Mar 1, 2012, at 1:21 PM,
  wrote:


I recall modifying the app.woa/app startup script at the end.

Basically, wotaskd should start first (it will start your app), then after it 
is running javamonitor should start. The tail end of my wotaskd.woa/wotaskd is 
like:

#
# Launch the application.
#
# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 100

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


And for my  JavaMonitor.woa/JavaMonitor:

# gsb 6/9/2010
# wait untill things boot all the way up
/usr/sbin/ipconfig waitall
#extra time for db
/bin/sleep 240

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo gb fixed? Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

#
# Launch the application.
#
echo Launching ${SCRIPT_NAME}.woa ...

echo ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}
eval exec ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE} ${JAVA_EXECUTABLE_ARGS} -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap ${COMMAND_LINE_ARGS}


So I had javamonitor trying to restart wotaskd which was waiting for things to 
happen. This did not allow proper startup. With the wait and extra time for 
javamonitor reboots work properly.

I think the apple wo 5.4.3 startups had some waiting; this is the Wonder 
versions I had to modify.

A wait maybe should be added to the Wonder wotaskd and JavaMonitor startup 
scripts.

I could be wrong, of course.

Greg Brown
gsbr...@umich.edu



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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Now what booting script do you use to delay starting up wotaskd + 
JavaMonitor, and do an apache restart afterwards? Something similar to 
what Simon suggested?


Thanks
Dennis

On 28/Feb/12 11:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

Yes. Four.  :-)



On Feb 29, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists 
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wrote:


and the webobjects apache configuration WebObjectsConfig 
http://:1085  10


On 28/Feb/12 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
All three of wotaskd, java monitor, and your apps need to agree on 
WOHost




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wrote:



Hi Ken et al,

After restarting the launchdaemons, Monitor seems to be happy with 
its instances showing as running, but we still get the famous "The 
requested application was not found on this server."


Thanks
Dennis.

On 27/Feb/12 10:41 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

Hi,

It looks we have a problem with JavaMonitor and wotask, that had 
to be fixed.


I have seen this Problem now on several Machines, and found the 
problem, but think about a fix.

Maybe the only way is to fix the Apps Javacode itself...

Test Machine was OS X Lion & OS X SnowLeopard



What is going on:

The correctway : If the Machine starts

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

* wotask will start the Instances

* Everybody is Happy



The Problem only appears if the Boot disk is a SSD Drive.

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

BUT, JavaMonitor and wotask Launches and try to get the Network 
Interface for making work,
the OS Networking isn't setup at that time. The Boot was to fast. 
Both Apps try for several time,

and give up. But running. a Zombi process

* wotask can't start the Instances

The only way after the Launch is to go to Activity Monitor to kill 
both processes, LaunchD will boot

both again and everybody is happy.



1. Fix 1 : LaunchD Script <- I have no idea if that is possible to 
say launch at Boot but delayed or so


2. Fix 2 : In the javacode after retry the App and can't get a 
Connection kill itself, and let launchD boot it again..



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Thanks

Basically, we need to kill both processes and /usr/sbin/apachectl 
restart to get it to work.


It would be nice if it was automated.

We'll try the ipconfig thing later.


Thanks

Dennis.

On 28/Feb/12 6:56 PM, Simon J Oliver (sjoliver) wrote:
Glad to help; I don't know that it's Lion per se causing the start-up 
thing. My Lion servers have been fine, and as I mentioned in the other 
thread, I saw it today with Leopard :-)


If you try the 'ipconfig waitall' thing, let me know if it solves the 
problem.



Simon





On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Simon,

Yes, you are bang on! That did the trick for the classic error. Thanks.

Is it true that Lion Server is more finicky so that we must do all 
these extra steps?


Now back to that start-up issue...

Thanks

Dennis.

On 28/Feb/12 6:45 PM, Simon J Oliver (sjoliver) wrote:
Actually, in my haste I was looking at the wrong version of the 
config file... I can confirm that I am using FQDN in the 
WebObjectsConfig line to make it work.



On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Simon Oliver wrote:


Dennis -

In your apache config file you should be including a line similar to:


Include /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache/apache.conf


In that file that is referenced is where the apache adaptor gets 
configured: that's where you tell apache where to find the 
wotaskd's its talking to.


Take a look at the WebObjectsConfig line in there, to see what it's 
trying to talk to. It should be something like:


WebObjectsConfig http://:1085  10

(I have localhost in there, and it seems to work - I'd try the FQDN 
in your case).


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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

and the webobjects apache configuration 
WebObjectsConfig http://:1085  10


On 28/Feb/12 7:49 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

All three of wotaskd, java monitor, and your apps need to agree on WOHost



On Feb 29, 2012, at 8:52 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists 
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Hi Ken et al,

After restarting the launchdaemons, Monitor seems to be happy with 
its instances showing as running, but we still get the famous "The 
requested application was not found on this server."


Thanks
Dennis.

On 27/Feb/12 10:41 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

Hi,

It looks we have a problem with JavaMonitor and wotask, that had to 
be fixed.


I have seen this Problem now on several Machines, and found the 
problem, but think about a fix.

Maybe the only way is to fix the Apps Javacode itself...

Test Machine was OS X Lion & OS X SnowLeopard



What is going on:

The correctway : If the Machine starts

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

* wotask will start the Instances

* Everybody is Happy



The Problem only appears if the Boot disk is a SSD Drive.

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

BUT, JavaMonitor and wotask Launches and try to get the Network 
Interface for making work,
the OS Networking isn't setup at that time. The Boot was to fast. 
Both Apps try for several time,

and give up. But running. a Zombi process

* wotask can't start the Instances

The only way after the Launch is to go to Activity Monitor to kill 
both processes, LaunchD will boot

both again and everybody is happy.



1. Fix 1 : LaunchD Script <- I have no idea if that is possible to 
say launch at Boot but delayed or so


2. Fix 2 : In the javacode after retry the App and can't get a 
Connection kill itself, and let launchD boot it again..



Thank you

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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

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Hi Simon,

Yes, you are bang on! That did the trick for the classic error. Thanks.

Is it true that Lion Server is more finicky so that we must do all these 
extra steps?


Now back to that start-up issue...

Thanks

Dennis.

On 28/Feb/12 6:45 PM, Simon J Oliver (sjoliver) wrote:
Actually, in my haste I was looking at the wrong version of the config 
file... I can confirm that I am using FQDN in the WebObjectsConfig 
line to make it work.



On Feb 28, 2012, at 8:32 PM, Simon Oliver wrote:


Dennis -

In your apache config file you should be including a line similar to:


Include /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache/apache.conf


In that file that is referenced is where the apache adaptor gets 
configured: that's where you tell apache where to find the wotaskd's 
its talking to.


Take a look at the WebObjectsConfig line in there, to see what it's 
trying to talk to. It should be something like:


WebObjectsConfig http://:1085  10

(I have localhost in there, and it seems to work - I'd try the FQDN 
in your case).


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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

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t:

_appserver  _appserveradm  337112 20 Feb 17:44 mod_WebObjects.so

So why does this still not work; maybe I am missing something else?

Thanks for any further help

Dennis


Regards,

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On Feb 28, 2012, at 3:26 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Tim,

Thanks for your email.

Yes DNS works correctly with 'changeip -checkhostname'; put full host 
names in wotask and JavaMonitor Properties files; and still nothing 
works. This is the most frustrating part of WO on Lion Server, 
however, this has always just worked for us in the past.


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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Ken et al,

After restarting the launchdaemons, Monitor seems to be happy with its 
instances showing as running, but we still get the famous "The requested 
application was not found on this server."


Thanks
Dennis.

On 27/Feb/12 10:41 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

Hi,

It looks we have a problem with JavaMonitor and wotask, that had to be 
fixed.


I have seen this Problem now on several Machines, and found the 
problem, but think about a fix.

Maybe the only way is to fix the Apps Javacode itself...

Test Machine was OS X Lion & OS X SnowLeopard



What is going on:

The correctway : If the Machine starts

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

* wotask will start the Instances

* Everybody is Happy



The Problem only appears if the Boot disk is a SSD Drive.

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

BUT, JavaMonitor and wotask Launches and try to get the Network 
Interface for making work,
the OS Networking isn't setup at that time. The Boot was to fast. Both 
Apps try for several time,

and give up. But running. a Zombi process

* wotask can't start the Instances

The only way after the Launch is to go to Activity Monitor to kill 
both processes, LaunchD will boot

both again and everybody is happy.



1. Fix 1 : LaunchD Script <- I have no idea if that is possible to say 
launch at Boot but delayed or so


2. Fix 2 : In the javacode after retry the App and can't get a 
Connection kill itself, and let launchD boot it again..



Thank you

Ken Ishimoto


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Re: JavaMonitor & wotask SSD Problem.

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Hi Ken,

All java tasks start, but they all don't work. Please see excerpt.

mm4:Logs admin$ ps -ax | grep java
  131 ?? 0:05.28 /usr/bin/java -XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m 
-DWORootDirectory=/System -DWOLocalRootDirectory= -DWOUserDirectory=/ 
-DWOEnvClassPath= 
-DWOApplicationClass=com.webobjects.monitor.wotaskd.Application 
-DWOPlatform=MacOS -Dcom.webobjects.pid=131 -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap -WOPort 1085
  132 ?? 0:05.80 /usr/bin/java -XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m 
-DWORootDirectory=/System -DWOLocalRootDirectory= -DWOUserDirectory=/ 
-DWOEnvClassPath= 
-DWOApplicationClass=com.webobjects.monitor.application.Application 
-DWOPlatform=MacOS -Dcom.webobjects.pid=132 -classpath WOBootstrap.jar 
com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap -WOPort 56789
  298 ?? 0:02.28 /usr/bin/java -XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m 
-DWORootDirectory=/System -DWOLocalRootDirectory= 
-DWOUserDirectory=/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa 
-DWOEnvClassPath= -DWOApplicationClass=com.webappz.bizdav.Application 
-DWOPlatform=MacOS -Dcom.webobjects.pid=298 -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M 
-classpath WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap -WOHost 
vds4.webappz.com -WOPort 2003 -WOCachingEnabled YES -WODebuggingEnabled 
NO -WOOutputPath /Library/WebObjects/Logs/bizDAV_VDS/bizDAV_VDS-1 
-WOAutoOpenInBrowser NO -WOAutoOpenClientApplication NO 
-WOLifebeatInterval 30 -WOLifebeatEnabled YES -WOLifebeatDestinationPort 
1085 -WOAdaptor WODefaultAdaptor -WOWorkerThreadCount 8 
-WOListenQueueSize 128 -WOWorkerThreadCountMin 16 
-WOWorkerThreadCountMax 256 -NSProjectSearchPath () -WOSessionTimeOut 
3600 -WOStatisticsPassword stats -WOApplicationName bizDAV_VDS 
-WOMonitorEnabled YES -WONoPause YES -bizDAV.variant VDS 
-WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/bizDAV.woa/Frameworks
  450 ?? 0:02.24 /usr/bin/java -XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m 
-DWORootDirectory=/System -DWOLocalRootDirectory= 
-DWOUserDirectory=/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa 
-DWOEnvClassPath= -DWOApplicationClass=com.webappz.bizdav.Application 
-DWOPlatform=MacOS -Dcom.webobjects.pid=450 -Xms1024M -Xmx1024M 
-classpath WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap -WOHost 
vds4.webappz.com -WOPort 2004 -WOCachingEnabled YES -WODebuggingEnabled 
NO -WOOutputPath /Library/WebObjects/Logs/bizDAV_VDS/bizDAV_VDS-2 
-WOAutoOpenInBrowser NO -WOAutoOpenClientApplication NO 
-WOLifebeatInterval 30 -WOLifebeatEnabled YES -WOLifebeatDestinationPort 
1085 -WOAdaptor WODefaultAdaptor -WOWorkerThreadCount 8 
-WOListenQueueSize 128 -WOWorkerThreadCountMin 16 
-WOWorkerThreadCountMax 256 -NSProjectSearchPath () -WOSessionTimeOut 
3600 -WOStatisticsPassword stats -WOApplicationName bizDAV_VDS 
-WOMonitorEnabled YES -WONoPause YES -bizDAV.variant VDS 
-WOFrameworksBaseURL /WebObjects/bizDAV.woa/Frameworks

  518 ttys0000:00.00 grep java


On 27/Feb/12 10:41 PM, ISHIMOTO Ken wrote:

Hi,

It looks we have a problem with JavaMonitor and wotask, that had to be 
fixed.


I have seen this Problem now on several Machines, and found the 
problem, but think about a fix.

Maybe the only way is to fix the Apps Javacode itself...

Test Machine was OS X Lion & OS X SnowLeopard



What is going on:

The correctway : If the Machine starts

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

* wotask will start the Instances

* Everybody is Happy



The Problem only appears if the Boot disk is a SSD Drive.

* LaunchD starts the Database

* LaunchD start JavaMonitor & wotask

BUT, JavaMonitor and wotask Launches and try to get the Network 
Interface for making work,
the OS Networking isn't setup at that time. The Boot was to fast. Both 
Apps try for several time,

and give up. But running. a Zombi process

* wotask can't start the Instances

The only way after the Launch is to go to Activity Monitor to kill 
both processes, LaunchD will boot

both again and everybody is happy.



1. Fix 1 : LaunchD Script <- I have no idea if that is possible to say 
launch at Boot but delayed or so


2. Fix 2 : In the javacode after retry the App and can't get a 
Connection kill itself, and let launchD boot it again..



Thank you

Ken Ishimoto


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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Just another question.

Are all these problems due to using the wonder versions, suggested in

http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

and we should just have used the normal versions for Lion Server?

We need to get this running soon...

Thanks
Dennis.


On 27/Feb/12 10:24 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On 2012-02-28, at 2:06 PM, Tim Worman wrote:


Dennis:

I recently went through this dance a bit. I set all the WOHost arguments 
(wotaskd, JavaMonitor) to the FQDN of the host my app was running on - not 
localhost.

I use localhost for my dev machines, the canonical FQDN for deployments.

Chuck



Others may disagree. I made sure DNS was working properly forward/reverse. I then 
launched monitor and used the button labelled "Synchronize Host" in the host 
configuration area.

Tim

On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO 
Lists  wrote:


Hi Chuck,

Thanks that partially worked. To make the configs as host neutral as possible, 
I did:

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, added 
bottom two lines:

WOSMTPHost = localhost
WOHost = localhost

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, 
add bottom line:

WOHost = localhost

However, then in monitor, the instances did not work anymore at the FDN, so had to add 
host "localhost" instead, and then everything worked. However, now I cannot 
access monitor remotely anymore...

So what would be the most host-neutral way, to get this to work. With Leopard, 
we never had any problems or needed to complete any settings like this.

Thanks so much.

Dennis


On 27/Feb/12 5:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

That sounds like JavaMonitor and wotaskd and the instances don't have a common 
(or correct) WOHost name in their Properties files.


Chuck


On 2012-02-28, at 7:02 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

Just upgrading several boxes to Lion Server.
We applied the standard WO543 Installer and Ken's Wonder wotaskd and WOMonitor 
from:

http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

BTW: Thanks for making this available

When clicking on:

http://localhost:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig

We see our configured instances nicely listed; however, in Monitor, we all instances 
"Off" with 1 "Death" for each.
Also, the URLs (from remotely) don't work and show: The requested application 
was not found on this server.
However, in the application instances' log, everything starts up  and stays 
running nicely.
Also,  the instances are running correctly according to ps -ax or sudo lsof -i 
tcp:
I don't understand how to debug this; already tried the spawof...ssh, and there 
everything was OK. Also DNS is working correclty both ways.

Another weird this is that one of the boxes works correctly every 5 reboots or 
so.

Any ideas? Thanks for any assistance.


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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your email.

Yes DNS works correctly with 'changeip -checkhostname'; put full host 
names in wotask and JavaMonitor Properties files; and still nothing 
works. This is the most frustrating part of WO on Lion Server, however, 
this has always just worked for us in the past.


Greetings,

Dennis.


On 27/Feb/12 10:06 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

Dennis:

I recently went through this dance a bit. I set all the WOHost arguments (wotaskd, 
JavaMonitor) to the FQDN of the host my app was running on - not localhost. Others may 
disagree. I made sure DNS was working properly forward/reverse. I then launched monitor 
and used the button labelled "Synchronize Host" in the host configuration area.

Tim

On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:41 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO 
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Hi Chuck,

Thanks that partially worked. To make the configs as host neutral as possible, 
I did:

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, added 
bottom two lines:

WOSMTPHost = localhost
WOHost = localhost

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, 
add bottom line:

WOHost = localhost

However, then in monitor, the instances did not work anymore at the FDN, so had to add 
host "localhost" instead, and then everything worked. However, now I cannot 
access monitor remotely anymore...

So what would be the most host-neutral way, to get this to work. With Leopard, 
we never had any problems or needed to complete any settings like this.

Thanks so much.

Dennis


On 27/Feb/12 5:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

That sounds like JavaMonitor and wotaskd and the instances don't have a common 
(or correct) WOHost name in their Properties files.


Chuck


On 2012-02-28, at 7:02 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

Just upgrading several boxes to Lion Server.
We applied the standard WO543 Installer and Ken's Wonder wotaskd and WOMonitor 
from:

http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

BTW: Thanks for making this available

When clicking on:

http://localhost:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig

We see our configured instances nicely listed; however, in Monitor, we all instances 
"Off" with 1 "Death" for each.
Also, the URLs (from remotely) don't work and show: The requested application 
was not found on this server.
However, in the application instances' log, everything starts up  and stays 
running nicely.
Also,  the instances are running correctly according to ps -ax or sudo lsof -i 
tcp:
I don't understand how to debug this; already tried the spawof...ssh, and there 
everything was OK. Also DNS is working correclty both ways.

Another weird this is that one of the boxes works correctly every 5 reboots or 
so.

Any ideas? Thanks for any assistance.


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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Chuck and all,

Setting the FQDN in the two properties files, we get the famous "The 
requested application was not found on this server." and the other 
similar configured box has "Failed to contact mm4.webappz.com-1085" and 
monitor only working on local box as "localhost:56789", before the last 
reboot, monitor would only work remotely and locally through the right 
mm4. So something flipped on the second box.


This is so frustrating and I have spend 4 days; and still nothing 
works... for something that is supposed to "just work"


Thanks for any help.

Dennis

On 27/Feb/12 10:27 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

On 2012-02-28, at 1:41 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Chuck,

Thanks that partially worked. To make the configs as host neutral as possible, 
I did:

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, added 
bottom two lines:

WOSMTPHost = localhost
WOHost = localhost

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, 
add bottom line:

WOHost = localhost

However, then in monitor, the instances did not work anymore at the FDN, so had to add 
host "localhost" instead, and then everything worked. However, now I cannot 
access monitor remotely anymore...

Yes, that is why you don't want to use localhost.  :-)



So what would be the most host-neutral way, to get this to work. With Leopard, 
we never had any problems or needed to complete any settings like this.

It can't be host neutral.  It needs to be consistent, and it needs to be 
correct with a reverse DNS lookup.  And these problems were seen with Leopard 
and before, this is not at all new.  Network loading and initialization order 
and timing can have great effect which is why you want to explicitly set the 
names being used.


Chuck



On 27/Feb/12 5:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

That sounds like JavaMonitor and wotaskd and the instances don't have a common 
(or correct) WOHost name in their Properties files.


Chuck


On 2012-02-28, at 7:02 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

Just upgrading several boxes to Lion Server.
We applied the standard WO543 Installer and Ken's Wonder wotaskd and WOMonitor 
from:

http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

BTW: Thanks for making this available

When clicking on:

http://localhost:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig

We see our configured instances nicely listed; however, in Monitor, we all instances 
"Off" with 1 "Death" for each.
Also, the URLs (from remotely) don't work and show: The requested application 
was not found on this server.
However, in the application instances' log, everything starts up  and stays 
running nicely.
Also,  the instances are running correctly according to ps -ax or sudo lsof -i 
tcp:
I don't understand how to debug this; already tried the spawof...ssh, and there 
everything was OK. Also DNS is working correclty both ways.

Another weird this is that one of the boxes works correctly every 5 reboots or 
so.

Any ideas? Thanks for any assistance.


--
With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
(+1) 604.921.1333

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Re: Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Chuck,

Thanks that partially worked. To make the configs as host neutral as 
possible, I did:


Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/wotaskd.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, added 
bottom two lines:


WOSMTPHost = localhost
WOHost = localhost

Edit File, nano 
/Library/WebObjects/Deployment/JavaMonitor.woa/Contents/Resources/Properties, 
add bottom line:


WOHost = localhost

However, then in monitor, the instances did not work anymore at the FDN, 
so had to add host "localhost" instead, and then everything worked. 
However, now I cannot access monitor remotely anymore...


So what would be the most host-neutral way, to get this to work. With 
Leopard, we never had any problems or needed to complete any settings 
like this.


Thanks so much.

Dennis


On 27/Feb/12 5:17 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:

That sounds like JavaMonitor and wotaskd and the instances don't have a common 
(or correct) WOHost name in their Properties files.


Chuck


On 2012-02-28, at 7:02 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

Just upgrading several boxes to Lion Server.
We applied the standard WO543 Installer and Ken's Wonder wotaskd and WOMonitor 
from:

http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

BTW: Thanks for making this available

When clicking on:

http://localhost:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig

We see our configured instances nicely listed; however, in Monitor, we all instances 
"Off" with 1 "Death" for each.
Also, the URLs (from remotely) don't work and show: The requested application 
was not found on this server.
However, in the application instances' log, everything starts up  and stays 
running nicely.
Also,  the instances are running correctly according to ps -ax or sudo lsof -i 
tcp:
I don't understand how to debug this; already tried the spawof...ssh, and there 
everything was OK. Also DNS is working correclty both ways.

Another weird this is that one of the boxes works correctly every 5 reboots or 
so.

Any ideas? Thanks for any assistance.


--
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WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
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Instances don't show up in Monitor and URLs do not work.

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,

Just upgrading several boxes to Lion Server.
We applied the standard WO543 Installer and Ken's Wonder wotaskd and 
WOMonitor from:


http://www.ksroom.com/App/WebObjects/Kisa.woa/wa/woDeploy

BTW: Thanks for making this available

When clicking on:

http://localhost:1085/cgi-bin/WebObjects/wotaskd.woa/wa/woconfig

We see our configured instances nicely listed; however, in Monitor, we 
all instances "Off" with 1 "Death" for each.
Also, the URLs (from remotely) don't work and show: The requested 
application was not found on this server.
However, in the application instances' log, everything starts up  and 
stays running nicely.
Also,  the instances are running correctly according to ps -ax or *sudo 
lsof -i tcp:*


I don't understand how to debug this; already tried the spawof...ssh, and there 
everything was OK. Also DNS is working correclty both ways.

Another weird this is that one of the boxes works correctly every 5 reboots or 
so.

Any ideas? Thanks for any assistance.


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Re: High resolution PDF generation

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Matteo,

We have a solution that renders dynamic PDF and allows you to put PDF 
vector graphics in the background, or as logo images. It is free, please 
let me know if you are interested.


Dennis

On 08/Feb/12 10:07 AM, Matteo Centro wrote:

Hi list,

in the past I always generated PDF documents on the fly from a WO 
application by using FOP.
Writing a component for FOP is not exactly an amusing task so for a 
new project I was considering using ERPDFGeneration instead, looks a 
lot simpler.


The problem I'm trying to solve is that I do need the generated PDF to 
be really high resolution, it's a ticket so it will need to have a 
barcode and a map to get to the place where the event takes place.
I have the map in a vector format so I rasterized it at a big 
resolution and I'll use the raster file in my HTML template.
From some preliminary tests I was kind-of able to accomplish what I 
need, the PDF gets generated and if i zoom it in it renders with 
enough detail so I'm happy.


But I got there from trial and error so I'm not really sure I'm doing 
the things in the most efficient way, maybe my images are too big, 
maybe I could tweak my HTML-CSS so it renders better...
Does anybody have to face a similar problem? Is there some docs I 
could read about this?


Any suggestions are of course very welcome, thanks!


Matteo


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HELP: Apache Segmentation Faults

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,

Since Apache 2.2.14, we are experiencing segmentation faults with apache and/or 
the webobjects adaptor. Everything is standard config: Leopard 10.5.8 + all 
latest updates + SSL.

Would we need a better adaptor, tweak our apache settings, and is it a hardware 
fault? Thanks for any assistance in this matter.

-

[Thu Jul 08 08:07:47 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:03 2010] [notice] child pid 203 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:04 2010] [notice] child pid 992 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:06 2010] [notice] child pid 995 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:07 2010] [notice] child pid 996 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:10 2010] [notice] child pid 997 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:16 2010] [notice] child pid 998 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:35 2010] [notice] child pid 1009 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:35 2010] [notice] child pid 1007 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:35 2010] [notice] child pid 1000 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:36 2010] [notice] child pid 1013 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:37 2010] [notice] child pid 1008 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:37 2010] [notice] child pid 1006 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:37 2010] [notice] child pid 1001 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:39 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Thu Jul 08 08:12:52 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations
httpd(1075) malloc: *** error for object 0x10021e870: incorrect checksum for 
freed object - object was probably modified after being freed.
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
[Thu Jul 08 08:19:19 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Thu Jul 08 08:19:24 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations
httpd(1112) malloc: *** error for object 0x10021ef90: incorrect checksum for 
freed object - object was probably modified after being freed.
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
[Thu Jul 08 08:23:00 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
httpd: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, 
using ::1 for ServerName
[Thu Jul 08 08:24:03 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:01 2010] [notice] child pid 203 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:06 2010] [notice] child pid 996 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:06 2010] [notice] child pid 994 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:07 2010] [notice] child pid 997 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:18 2010] [notice] child pid 1000 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:19 2010] [notice] child pid 1003 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:19 2010] [notice] child pid 1001 exit signal Segmentation 
fault (11)
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:49 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Thu Jul 08 08:28:56 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations
httpd(1022) malloc: *** error for object 0x10021e870: incorrect checksum for 
freed object - object was probably modified after being freed.
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
httpd(1043) malloc: *** error for object 0x10021ee60: incorrect checksum for 
freed object - object was probably modified after being freed.
*** set a breakpoint in malloc_error_break to debug
[Thu Jul 08 08:33:02 2010] [notice] caught SIGTERM, shutting down
[Thu Jul 08 08:33:06 2010] [notice] Apache/2.2.14 (Unix) mod_ssl/2.2.14 
OpenSSL/0.9.7l configured -- resuming normal operations

---

Process: httpd [1043]
Path:/usr/sbin/httpd
Identifier:  httpd
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86-64 (Native)
Parent Process:  httpd [1016]

Date/Time:   2010-07-08 08:33:01.583 -0700
OS Version:  Mac OS X Server 10.5.8 (9L34)
Report Version:  6
Anonymous UUID:  52AF3A82-CB34-47CB-A612-473248AC1E0B

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV)
Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x2028
Crashed Thread:  0

Application Specific Information:
*** single-threaded process forked ***

Thread 0 Crashed:
0   libSystem.B.dylib   0x7fff80cf55aa szone_free + 1222
1   libcrypto.0.9.7.dylib   0x7fff84c01c6f CRYPTO_free + 37
2   libssl.0.9.7.dylib  0x0001003b5b81 SSL_free + 262
3   mod_ssl.so  0x0001003790af 0x10037 + 37039
4   libapr-1.0.dylib0x0001001c9264 apr_pool

Re: AppleInsider | Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

But only in French...


On 2010-05-07, at 3:50 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> Hum : 
> 
> " It is likely that more information will surface at this year's WOWODC and 
> WWDC events."
> 
> If it's going to be show at WOWODC 2010, I would like to know :-) 
> 
>> 
>> http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html
>> 
>> 
>> Finally!
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>> Chief Technology Officer,
>> WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
>> 
>> 
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AppleInsider | Apple developing Flash alternative named Gianduia

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http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/10/05/07/apple_developing_flash_alternative_named_gianduia.html


Finally!

With Kind Regards,

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Re: announcement

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Ciao Pascale,

You are great and your efforts are very much appreciated. I have also been more 
than my share, in driving my internal apple WebObjects contact crazy, and 
complaining why he can't release any of his new work outside of Apple. But as 
much as he feels for the community, he can't do anything. 

[1] So what can we do - as a community - to ensure that these new WebObjects 
releases get indeed released outside of Apple?

[2] Who are the persons blocking any new public WebObjects releases and what 
are their motivations?

[3] What are our options for moving forward?

How about we do a petition to Apple and/or a "Dear Steve Jobs" email?

Thanks,

Dennis.

On 2010-04-22, at 6:04 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 10-04-22 à 20:55, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
> 
>> Hi Pascal,
>> 
>> I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside 
>> community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. 
>> 
>> Why don't you make a poll/survey: 
>> 
>> "Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the public?"
> 
> The survey should instead ask if "outsiders" (that's us) have given feedback 
> about WO future to Apple. For example, how many of us opened a Radard asking 
> what's the status of WO? How many can compare WO with other frameworks? Who 
> in the community wants to make WO cool again? Maybe Apple might do something 
> if they get feedback and start seeing some buzz instead of seeing tweets 
> about people who blame WO for every Apple Store/ADC problems? 
> 
> I try to do my best with wocommunity.org but I can't do everything alone, and 
> to be honest, I think people just don't care about expending the community (I 
> do hope that I'm wrong).
> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> Dennis.
>> 
>> On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
>>> 
>>>> A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 
>>>> 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.
>>> 
>>> Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!
>>> 
>>>> Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really 
>>>> like the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on 
>>>> WOLips while working for Apple? 
>>>> 
>>>> With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that 
>>>> worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the 
>>>> public; and more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is 
>>>> this "legacy" and "not supported on Snow Leopard" business.
>>> 
>>> We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days, 870 visits 
>>> on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google for WebObjects 
>>> tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except the one Apple did last 
>>> year... A funny enough, 748 visits after September 1th 2009, right after 
>>> Snow Leopard came out and Apple said it was not supported in SL Server!  9 
>>> 350 unique page views for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 
>>> 1th 2009, so there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple 
>>> tutorial and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...
>>> 
>>>> In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay 
>>>> with 5.4.3 forever.
>>>> 
>>>> With Kind Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>>>> Chief Technology Officer,
>>>> WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
>>>> 
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Re: announcement

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Pascal,

I meant to say that Mike's assimilation is somewhat of a loss to the outside 
community; and Apple now has even one less reason to release WebObjects. 

Why don't you make a poll/survey: 

"Do you believe Apple is ever going to release WebObjects to the public?"

Greetings,

Dennis.

On 2010-04-22, at 5:45 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> 
> Le 10-04-22 à 20:32, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists a écrit :
> 
>> A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 
>> 330cm (11ft) of snow up here.
> 
> Snow, what's this? It all went away in mid March here!
> 
>> Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really 
>> like the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on 
>> WOLips while working for Apple? 
>> 
>> With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that 
>> worries me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the 
>> public; and more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is 
>> this "legacy" and "not supported on Snow Leopard" business.
> 
> We could just try to expand the community. In the last 365 days, 870 visits 
> on wocommunity.org came from people searching on Google for WebObjects 
> tutorials. Sadly, we don't have any tutorials except the one Apple did last 
> year... A funny enough, 748 visits after September 1th 2009, right after Snow 
> Leopard came out and Apple said it was not supported in SL Server!  9 350 
> unique page views for the front page of wocommunity.org since September 1th 
> 2009, so there is some interest in WO, but sadly except the Apple tutorial 
> and the basic screencasts, we don't have much to offer...
> 
>> In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay 
>> with 5.4.3 forever.
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>> Chief Technology Officer,
>> WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
>> 
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>> 
>> On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
>> 
>>> Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
>>> day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
>>> worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
>>> responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
>>> really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
>>> Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
>>> with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
>>> WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
>>> things in the future.
>>> 
>>> As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
>>> great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came 
>>> on, Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great 
>>> it was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of 
>>> books, WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT 
>>> has also consistently made a substantial investment in the community, 
>>> supporting every bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, 
>>> WOWODC, and the build servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them 
>>> for that.
>>> 
>>> For the things you guys may directly care about:
>>> 
>>> * WOLips - still working on it
>>> * Wonder - still working on it
>>> * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
>>> * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
>>>

Re: announcement

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

A little belated congratulations from Whistler, BC. Yes; there is still 330cm 
(11ft) of snow up here.

Thanks for working on WOLips and all your support to this list. I really like 
the work you have done in the past. Will you be continuing to work on WOLips 
while working for Apple? 

With the outside community being a bit smaller now, the only thing that worries 
me is that Apple is even less likely to release WebObjects to the public; and 
more likely to keep it internal only... Come on Apple, what is this "legacy" 
and "not supported on Snow Leopard" business.

In other words; if one likes WebObjects, one must work for Apple, or stay with 
5.4.3 forever.

With Kind Regards,

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Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.


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On 2010-04-21, at 9:33 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

> Hey everyone ... I wanted to let you guys know that Apr 30 will be my last 
> day at mDimension. A few weeks ago, I accepted a position at Apple. Not to 
> worry, though -- supporting WOLips and Wonder will be part of my 
> responsibilities, so I'm far from disappearing. I think iTMS has done a 
> really good job demonstrating that they're committed to contributing, with 
> Entity Modeler app, eomodeldoc, and a substantial amount of work recently 
> with ERModernLook. The folks over there appreciate the value of the 
> WebObjects and Wonder communities, and I look forward to a lot of exciting 
> things in the future.
> 
> As far as mDimension, we are parting on really good terms. They have been a 
> great company to work for over the past 5 years. For years before I came on, 
> Bill would tell me about this framework called WebObjects and how great it 
> was. When I started at mDT, he got me going with WO with a bunch of books, 
> WWDC videos, and helpful guidance, and they set me on The Path. mDT has also 
> consistently made a substantial investment in the community, supporting every 
> bit of development that I've done in WOLips, Wonder, WOWODC, and the build 
> servers throughout my time here, and I applaud them for that.
> 
> For the things you guys may directly care about:
> 
> * WOLips - still working on it
> * Wonder - still working on it
> * Build Servers - mDT will continue to host the build servers
> * WOWODC - still attending, though not in an official Apple capacity
> 
> To contact me in the future, my AIM/twitter are the same, but you can use my 
> msch...@pobox.com email address.
> 
> ms
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Re: announcement

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Congratulations Lachlan,

This is a great moment for your family. The only  thing you have to worry about 
is that once they grow up; they will notice you spending too much time working 
with your computer...at least that is what mine do

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On 2010-04-21, at 7:40 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

> I was intending to look at the patch asap (e.g., weekend) seeing as I added 
> the h2 plugin and I've got a whole bunch of unit tests utilising migrations + 
> h2.
> I assume you've included any info necessary for testing the patch?
> 
> 
> But congrats Mike and thanks for all your excellent work over the years!
> 
> Naturally you'll have a thousand page NDA to sign and will no longer be able 
> to publicly hassle on the community's behalf :) for such things as the 
> imminent release of the 'g' (i.e., giandura) or WO5.4.3.1 or 5.6 ;-) but I 
> hope your time on the inside is personally rewarding.
> 
> 
> In other news, while announcements are in order: I started a new job a couple 
> of weeks ago where spring+hibernate is in play. So my contributions will 
> mostly likely slow down somewhat, not that they weren't slow already ;) Oh, 
> and my wife and I had a little baby boy 4 weeks ago. Lots of fun. A little 
> bundle of joy!
> 
> On 22/04/2010, at 9:41 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:
> 
>> Maybe people can put their patched frameworks somewhere so that people can 
>> try them before the patch is applied to HEAD? For example, people who use H2 
>> could try the patch I did to support the LIMIT operator and they can report 
>> if it's working for them. Even if most don't have commit access, it doesn't 
>> stop people to try/review the patch.
>> 
>> Building examples and tests is another good way to review the patchs too :-)
> 
> with regards,
> --
> 
> Lachlan Deck
> 
> 
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Re: Strange 10.6 deployment issue

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Hi Greg,

IMPORTANT: Make sure that in etc/apache2/httpd.conf, the following is removed 
or commented out: (OS Upgrade 10.6.2 -> 10.6.3 put this line back in)  

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/



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On 2010-04-06, at 9:56 AM, Greg Lappen wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> We have a WebObjects application that has been working find on Panther, 
> Leopard, etc.  Now we are trying to deploy it on a 10.6 server powered mini.  
> I followed the instructions at 
> http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WO/Programming__WebObjects-Web+Applications-Deployment-Mac+OS+X+Server
>  and at first, everything worked great.  After restarting the mini server, 
> everything is back up and running, however Apache no longer knows how to 
> route requests to WebObjects.  We get a 404, Object Not Found error, and what 
> I see in the apache error log is this:
> 
> script not found or unable to stat: 
> /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebObjects
> 
> I checked that mod_WebObjects is being loaded:
> 
> /usr/sbin/httpd -t -D DUMP_MODULES
> Loaded Modules:
>  core_module (static)
>  mpm_prefork_module (static)
>  http_module (static)
> .
> .
>  WebObjects_module (shared)
> 
> And the webobjects apache.conf is still being loaded from httpd.conf:
> 
> siaws25:Apache2.2 paperfree$ tail -5 /etc/apache2/httpd.conf
> 
>  The following Include directive is essential for the virtual hosts to be 
> usable.
> 
> Include "/etc/apache2/sites/*.conf"
> Include /System/Library/WebObjects/Adaptors/Apache2.2/apache.conf
> 
> Also, the file  /Library/WebServer/CGI-Executables/WebObjects does not 
> actually exist, but I think that is correct as it's not really running a CGI 
> script right?  Can anyone shed some light on this?  Any help would be greatly 
> appreciated.
> 
> Greg
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Re: Exception: Deployment - FrontbasePlugIn - deadlock - WHY

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Just to repeat; please verify that in your EOModel Directory -> index.eomodeld, 
you should have something like:

connectionDictionary = {
URL = 
"jdbc:FrontBase://localhost/YOUR_DATABASE/user=x/upasswd=y/dbpasswd=z/isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic";
 





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On 2010-03-22, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

> I was seeing the same thing as below and it was very repeatable on both my 
> development and deployment machines.  I made the suggested change, and the 
> error went away on my development machine.  However when I install the new 
> build on my deployment machine, I still get the error (very repeatably).  Is 
> there something extra I need to do to make sure that kind of change gets 
> installed when you build and deploy your project?  As a note, my EOModel 
> resides in a framework project that I build and install separately from my 
> main project.  And yes, I have installed both parts and still am seeing the 
> error.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> 
>>> This exception just appeared at random during deployment. Yes, there are 
>>> multiple WO application instances and multiple sessions per instance, but 
>>> this never has caused a problem before. We were just trying to insert an 
>>> object into the database. Any tips, pointers? Frontbase? WO?
>> 
>> You.  :-)  Add /isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic  to your URL so 
>> that it looks like this:
>> 
>> JDBCUrl = 
>> "jdbc:FrontBase://localhost/GVCSiteMaker/isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic";
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> EXCEPTION:
>>> 
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOGeneralAdaptorException: EvaluateExpression 
>>> failed: >> "INSERT INTO "Client"("address_PostalZip", "phone_Fax", "modify_user_id", 
>>> "create_user_id", "date_Registration", "notes_textblob_id", "birthDate", 
>>> "date_LastPayment", "client_id", "isActive", "sourceInformation", 
>>> "address_Line1", "address_Line2", "name_Last", "salesPerson_employee_id", 
>>> "address_ProvinceState", "branch_id", "name_First", "date_RTEligible", 
>>> "modify_date", "currentBalance", "address_Additional", "address_City3C", 
>>> "dlClass_id", "address_Country", "address_City", "division_id", 
>>> "create_date", "phone_Home", "dlNumber", "date_LastBooking", "phone_Cell", 
>>> "highSchool", "phone_Additional", "office_id", "eMail", "programCourse") 
>>> VALUES ('A1Z-5Z1', NULL, NULL, 'rhonda', TIMESTAMP '2007-01-10 
>>> 00:00:00.000', 1000633, TIMESTAMP '1951-07-29 00:00:00.000', NULL, 1000553, 
>>> 1, NULL, '87-Spear Rd', NULL, 'Nesty', 118, 'BC', 10
>>> 1, 'Mario', NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, 'Chi', 101, 'Canada', 'Chillilove', 
>>> 102, TIMESTAMP '2007-01-10 11:56:10.003', '604-793-8439', '6892720', 
>>> NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, 101, NULL, 'CL-3 ABC($900.00)')">:
>>>   Next exception:SQL State:00   subclass = " -- error code: 380 -- msg: 
>>> Exception condition 380. Pessimistic locking: multiple transaction conflict 
>>> dete

Re: Exception: Deployment - FrontbasePlugIn - deadlock - WHY

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Jeff,

This was a funny exception back in 2007. Adjusting the connection dictionary 
like Chuck mentioned fixed the problem back them; and it has never re-occured 
since then. We have been using FrontBase for the largest professional drivings 
schools in Canada since then without any problems. Viva FrontBase!!!

With Kind Regards,

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On 2010-03-22, at 10:48 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

> I was seeing the same thing as below and it was very repeatable on both my 
> development and deployment machines.  I made the suggested change, and the 
> error went away on my development machine.  However when I install the new 
> build on my deployment machine, I still get the error (very repeatably).  Is 
> there something extra I need to do to make sure that kind of change gets 
> installed when you build and deploy your project?  As a note, my EOModel 
> resides in a framework project that I build and install separately from my 
> main project.  And yes, I have installed both parts and still am seeing the 
> error.
> 
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> 
> 
> On Jan 10, 2007, at 4:39 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jan 10, 2007, at 2:33 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
>> 
>>> Dear colleagues,
>>> 
>>> This exception just appeared at random during deployment. Yes, there are 
>>> multiple WO application instances and multiple sessions per instance, but 
>>> this never has caused a problem before. We were just trying to insert an 
>>> object into the database. Any tips, pointers? Frontbase? WO?
>> 
>> You.  :-)  Add /isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic  to your URL so 
>> that it looks like this:
>> 
>> JDBCUrl = 
>> "jdbc:FrontBase://localhost/GVCSiteMaker/isolation=read_committed/locking=optimistic";
>> 
>> 
>> Chuck
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> EXCEPTION:
>>> 
>>> com.webobjects.eoaccess.EOGeneralAdaptorException: EvaluateExpression 
>>> failed: >> "INSERT INTO "Client"("address_PostalZip", "phone_Fax", "modify_user_id", 
>>> "create_user_id", "date_Registration", "notes_textblob_id", "birthDate", 
>>> "date_LastPayment", "client_id", "isActive", "sourceInformation", 
>>> "address_Line1", "address_Line2", "name_Last", "salesPerson_employee_id", 
>>> "address_ProvinceState", "branch_id", "name_First", "date_RTEligible", 
>>> "modify_date", "currentBalance", "address_Additional", "address_City3C", 
>>> "dlClass_id", "address_Country", "address_City", "division_id", 
>>> "create_date", "phone_Home", "dlNumber", "date_LastBooking", "phone_Cell", 
>>> "highSchool", "phone_Additional", "office_id", "eMail", "programCourse") 
>>> VALUES ('A1Z-5Z1', NULL, NULL, 'rhonda', TIMESTAMP '2007-01-10 
>>> 00:00:00.000', 1000633, TIMESTAMP '1951-07-29 00:00:00.000', NULL, 1000553, 
>>> 1, NULL, '87-Spear Rd', NULL, 'Nesty', 118, 'BC', 10
>>> 1, 'Mario', NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, 'Chi', 101, 'Canada', 'Chillilove', 
>>> 102, TIMESTAMP '2007-01-10 11:56:10.003', '604-793-8439', '6892720', 
>>> NULL, NULL, NULL, NULL, 101, NULL, 'CL-3 ABC($900.00)')">:
>>>   Next exception:SQL State:00   subclass = " -- error code: 380 -- msg: 
>>> Exception condition 380. Pessimistic locking: multiple transaction conflict 
>>&

Re: Long Fetch times

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Hi Jeff,

As Chuck also said; please do a flat-file backup, create an empty database, and 
run the script to restore from the flat-file. This will give you a fresh 
database. Two more thinks to consider:
4) Disk fragmentation; maybe re-format the partition holding the DB.
5) Memory...
6) Research your Queries are you are doing already.

Greetings,

Dennis.




On 2010-03-13, at 7:54 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:

> Thanks Dennis,
>comments below...
> 
> On Mar 13, 2010, at 8:59 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
> 
>> Some things coming to my mind:
>> 
>> 1) Are you using a lot of indices and/or compound indices? Sometimes when 
>> you have large tables, loading those indices the first time, takes a while. 
>> So there is a fine balance between too many and not enough indices; we have 
>> noticed with FB. As such, after every server restart, we "warm up" the 
>> database to get it going.
> I don't have a lot of indices, just the default and one or two others.  The 
> thing is, once it's gone, it's gone.  I can restart, restore from live backup 
> (haven't tried flat files), reboot, doesn't matter, after a certain, sudden 
> point any fetch takes on the order of minutes, even to return no data.
> 
>> 
>> 2) If your DB is too fragmented, consider writing it to a flat-file, and 
>> restoring it; as shown in the FB docs.
> Would flat-file maybe work better than from live backup?
> 
>> 
>> 3) How is your underlying storage medium doing? Enough free disk space? 
>> Consider deploying on SSDs.
> Should be plenty.  Honestly, it doesn't take that much data in the database 
> to get this to happen.  A live backup gives a file on the order of 100 
> megabytes.  
> 
> 
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
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>> Chief Technology Officer,
>> WEBAPPZ®  Systems, Inc.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010-03-13, at 4:44 PM, Jeff Schmitz wrote:
>> 
>>> While running some stress tests I seem to be able to get my database 
>>> (Frontbase) in a state where fetch times take an inordinate amount of time 
>>> (e.g. fetches that return no rows take a minute), and once in that state, 
>>> even a reboot of the machine won't fix the problem.  Is there anyway to 
>>> recover such a database?  I'll be perusing the Frontbase for any ideas, but 
>>> from experience, is such behavior symptomatic of any particular problem?  
>>> I've been running several years and haven't until now seen such behavior.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
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Re: Long Fetch times

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Some things coming to my mind:

1) Are you using a lot of indices and/or compound indices? Sometimes when you 
have large tables, loading those indices the first time, takes a while. So 
there is a fine balance between too many and not enough indices; we have 
noticed with FB. As such, after every server restart, we "warm up" the database 
to get it going.

2) If your DB is too fragmented, consider writing it to a flat-file, and 
restoring it; as shown in the FB docs.

3) How is your underlying storage medium doing? Enough free disk space? 
Consider deploying on SSDs.

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> While running some stress tests I seem to be able to get my database 
> (Frontbase) in a state where fetch times take an inordinate amount of time 
> (e.g. fetches that return no rows take a minute), and once in that state, 
> even a reboot of the machine won't fix the problem.  Is there anyway to 
> recover such a database?  I'll be perusing the Frontbase for any ideas, but 
> from experience, is such behavior symptomatic of any particular problem?  
> I've been running several years and haven't until now seen such behavior.
> 
> Thanks,
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Re: [OT] Fact about Apple Store and WO

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Good point. Probably Apple does that on purpose to generate hype...
D/


On 2010-02-09, at 5:19 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> As usual, when the Apple Store goes down, people on Twitter starts blaming WO 
> because of store being down for minutes or sometimes hours. So I was thinking 
> of adding a fact in the Facts section of wocommunity.org about this. 
> Suggestion :
> 
> ---
> Q. Why does the Apple Store goes down every time they release a major product?
> 
> A. Since we don't work for Apple, we can't answer this question in details, 
> but we don't see a reason why they have to put the store down even if they 
> only added a new product. Funny thing is that the iTunes Store is also 
> running WebObjects and does it goes down everything a new song is released? 
> Nope. So our guess is that when a new major Apple product is released, maybe 
> they close the store to do some maintenance or for marketing reasons. What we 
> DO know is that it's not a limitation of WebObjects, and at WOWODC West 2009 
> some engineers from the Apple Store team were there and they are very bright 
> people, so we guess that they close the store for very valid reasons.
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> Adding a fact like this might help for people who search about this on Google 
> or to sent as replies to some tweets :-) 
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Re: FrontBase 5

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Is it true that the electronic licenses for Version 4 are the same as those for 
Version 5? Thanks.

With Kind Regards,

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On 2010-02-01, at 11:17 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:

> Resurrecting the "Is FrontBase Dead?!!?" thread...
> 
> I reported a rather minor bug in 4.x last Friday.  It was fixed as of Monday 
> morning and they gave me a patched version to download.
> 
> They are definitely still very much in the game, they've just been busy.
> 
> 
> Chuck
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 4:55 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> 
>> Just got an email from Geert at FrontBase that FB5 should be out in a week 
>> or two ... So, FB lives :)
>> 
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Re: New look for wocommunity.org

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Nice Job!

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On 2010-02-01, at 4:35 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:

> Hello everyone,
> 
> wocommunity.org finally have a brand new look! Thanks to the efforts of one 
> of our community member, Sophiacom (www.sophiacom.fr). Everything is much 
> cleaner now, especially the Screencasts page.
> 
> More stuff is coming soon in the Community section : personal and 
> organization profiles, and WO projects listing.
> 
> Again, thanks to Sophiacom for the new look.
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Re: FrontBase 5.1.1 is out!

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Yeah!
Dennis

On 2010-01-27, at 9:04 AM, Amedeo Mantica wrote:

> WOW !
> 
> On 27/gen/2010, at 17.38, Mike Schrag wrote:
> 
>> Congratulations, FB guys ... I know this has been in the works for quite a 
>> while.
>> 
>> ms
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Re: ERProfiling

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Thanks.

That looks impressive and useful!

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>> http://emerald.hq.mdimension.com:8080/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html
> Bah ... sorry. link to our internal build server. THAT'S not gonna work.
> 
> http://webobjects.mdimension.com/hudson/job/Wonder54/javadoc/er/profiling/package-summary.html
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Re: WO 5.4.3 vs WO 5.3.3

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We have been using WO 5.4.X since 2007 without any problems. Pierre has done 
some great cleanups and performance enhancements in the code since 5.3.x. We 
deploy all our apps with Java 1.5/64 bit, and are eagerly waiting for the 
newest WO 5.5+ versions from Apple to officially support Java 1.6.

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On 2010-01-11, at 12:07 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> So what are you using yourself Mike for new projects?
> 
> -Kieran
> 
> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:
> 
>> The only reason I would move up is to get rid of 5.3 support in Wonder, 
>> which will never happen unless Anjo also moves up, and neither of us is 
>> particularly compelled to do so ("ain't broke" and all).
>> 
>> ms
>> 
>> On Jan 11, 2010, at 2:44 PM, Simon wrote:
>> 
>>> excellent question kieran - we are in the exact same position. each time we 
>>> look at it we just can't find a compelling enough reason to upgrade, other 
>>> than the fear of being left behind.
>>> 
>>> Simon
>>> 
>>> 2010/1/11 Kieran Kelleher 
>>> Some of my actively supported projects are still WO 5.3.3.
>>> 
>>> I have been "on the fence" about switching some of those to WO 5.4.3 since
>>>- Wonder defaults to WO 5.3.3
>>>- Anjo does not care about 5.4.3 ;-)
>>> 
>>> Yet, 77% of pascal's survey orgs use 5.4.X, so for someone who uses Wonder 
>>> (ERXtns/Ajax/WOOgnl/etc/), is there any advantages to upgrading some active 
>>> projects to WO 5.4.3? ... for example newer axis libs for web services? 
>>> . or, does the code run faster on 64bit java 1.6 for example? ... 
>>> any thoughts on the advantages (or disadvantages, if any)?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: FrontBase 5

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Hi Cail,

Thank you. This is great!

Is it stable enough for upgrading our large scale deployments? 

Or is it still going to be a dot zero release for a while.

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On 2010-01-07, at 11:40 AM, Cail Borrell wrote:

> Hi Dennis,
> 
> I can confirm that FB5 does support Intel 64 bit.
> 
> -Cail
> 
> On Jan 7, 2010, at 7:50 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
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>> Hopefully, it will be "Intel (64 bit)"!!!
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2010-01-07, at 7:26 AM, Amedeo Mantica wrote:
>> 
>>> :-)
>>> 
>>> On 07/gen/2010, at 13.55, Mike Schrag wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Just got an email from Geert at FrontBase that FB5 should be out in a week 
>>>> or two ... So, FB lives :)
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Re: FrontBase 5

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Hopefully, it will be "Intel (64 bit)"!!!

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra, 




On 2010-01-07, at 7:26 AM, Amedeo Mantica wrote:

> :-)
> 
> On 07/gen/2010, at 13.55, Mike Schrag wrote:
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>> Just got an email from Geert at FrontBase that FB5 should be out in a week 
>> or two ... So, FB lives :)
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Re: Frontbase still in operation?

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Dear List,

At September 5, Geert - owner - mentioned a 5.0 version to us; see email below. 

However, he never answered my return email asking him where to get it.

Maybe we all need to push him on the 5.0 public release.

BTW: We love FrontBase for its reliability and power.

Greetings,

Dennis.




> Hi Geert,
> 
> Thank you. How can we get a hold of it? Is it available as an Intel 64 bit 
> app?
> 
> ...
> 
> With Kind Regards,
> 
> Dennis Gaastra, M.B.A.[sfu.ca], B.Sc.[ubc.ca]
> Chief Technology Officer,
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2009-09-03, at 7:59 PM, Geert B. Clemmensen wrote:
> 
>> Hello Dennis,
>> 
>> We have FrontBase 5.x in production at a new command and control center for 
>> the Copenhagen Police, so we believe it is ready for production use in 
>> general. We can offer you a build for testing on Mac OS X.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Geert
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On 2009-12-30, at 2:33 AM, Amedeo Mantica wrote:

> I have the same identical question !
> 
> On 30/dic/2009, at 09.43, Kenny Leung wrote:
> 
>> Hi All.
>> 
>> I'm just wondering if anyone on the list has had recent contact with the 
>> folks at Frontbase. I have tried multiple times with no response.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -Kenny
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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

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On 2009-11-24, at 5:51 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

> The community has arisen in response to Apple pulling back (e.g., Entity 
> Modeler was written because of Apple's decision to pull the tools). 
> You've got it backwards I'm afraid.
 
 Not really, IMHO, Apple is now recognizing the great contributions from 
 the community, which might be better than their own. Eclipse/EM seemed an 
 obvious progression; so why stand in the way?
>>> 
>>> You're just not providing a true picture of history. Xcode was the 
>>> predominant dev tools for WO until Apple dropped it... and then the masses 
>>> looked for an alternative and got behind WOLips. Sure, the WOLips tools 
>>> were around beforehand but were in no way in a ready state for the masses. 
>>> That's all since changed...
>>> 
>>> with regards,
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Lachlan Deck
>> 
>> Talking about history; we have been using WebObjects since 1998. The point 
>> is that Apple did not want to stand in the way of something better suited. 
>> In their opinion, at that time, the WOLips tools WERE ready for the masses, 
>> as Apple had already been using them internally for a couple of years prior 
>> to that. 
> That's just not quite the reality of what went down. WOLips existed, yes, and 
> quite a few of us preferred it (including several people inside of Apple, 
> yes), but we didn't have any replacement for EOModeler at that point. About a 
> month before WWDC the year Apple announced they were dropping the dev tools, 
> I received a call from an Apple engineer who suggested that I should maybe 
> more seriously consider following through on my previous discussions about 
> making a replacement for EOModeler based on Eclipse/WOLips, because the dev 
> tools would no longer work on Leopard after the Java bridge was dropped. The 
> decision to drop the tools was a foregone conclusion of dropping the bridge, 
> and Apple apparently didn't have the desire to make new ones, which meant 
> that the REALITY was that there simply wasn't ANY answer at the time for what 
> was going to be announced. If you go back in svn history, you'll see quite a 
> frantic thrashing of commits going from nothing to a limping Entity Modeler 
> in the span of about a month. The Entity Modeler that was shown that year was 
> literally built the morning of the session to make "add relationship" work. 
> So I don't think Apple got out of the way to gracefully bow out to the better 
> open source competitor (though i like to think we BECAME the better open 
> source competitor in many ways), rather they killed the WO tools by way of a 
> series of cascading decisions and didn't really care about making a 
> replacement.
> 
> ms

Yes, I was referring to WOLips ex Entity Modeler, which was very well received 
by Apple. Personally, I was still sceptical at that time, and was Content with 
XCode/EOModeler as that still seemed the "official" Apple protocol. However, it 
was my Apple contact that had been telling me over-and-over again, that 
WOLips/Eclipse was so much better... I really appreciate your efforts and am 
amazed that Entity Modeller was included so quickly when the need arose, and 
works so well.

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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

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>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> Talking about history; we have been using WebObjects since 1998.
> 
> Cool.
> 
>> The point is that Apple did not want to stand in the way of something better 
>> suited.
> 
> lol... because as a company they're just generous at heart when it comes to 
> setting their technology free ;-)
> 
>> In their opinion, at that time, the WOLips tools WERE ready for the masses,
> 
> Now you've either got this from the horses mouth so to speak or are making it 
> up. The former makes no sense as it is simply not true (Entity Modeler for 
> exmaple was no where near ready ... as Mike worked hard on it *after* the 
> announcement of Apple dropping theirs). Sure it was showing signs of being 
> the way to go for the future ... that would be closer to making sense.

It was the way I said before; 1) XCode came out, 2) WOLips came out, 3) WOLips 
was found to be better than XCode by Apple, [two years later] 4) Apple imposed 
that opinion on the community.

Referring to Apple as a horse is not very conductive to fostering good 
relationship between the community and Apple.

> 
>> as Apple had already been using them internally for a couple of years prior 
>> to that. 
> 
> That little thing called the Java-bridge doing its disappearing act had some 
> influence on their decision too... :-)
> 
> Look, I hope they do get around to releasing 5.5, 5.6 etc but there's no 
> denying that there's some internal politics that's slowing things down 
> considerably.
> 
> with regards,
> --
> 
> Lachlan Deck
> 

Be good to santa, and maybe there will be something under the tree.

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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

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>>> 
>>> The community has arisen in response to Apple pulling back (e.g., Entity 
>>> Modeler was written because of Apple's decision to pull the tools). You've 
>>> got it backwards I'm afraid.
>> 
>> Not really, IMHO, Apple is now recognizing the great contributions from the 
>> community, which might be better than their own. Eclipse/EM seemed an 
>> obvious progression; so why stand in the way?
> 
> You're just not providing a true picture of history. Xcode was the 
> predominant dev tools for WO until Apple dropped it... and then the masses 
> looked for an alternative and got behind WOLips. Sure, the WOLips tools were 
> around beforehand but were in no way in a ready state for the masses. That's 
> all since changed...
> 
> with regards,
> --
> 
> Lachlan Deck

Talking about history; we have been using WebObjects since 1998. The point is 
that Apple did not want to stand in the way of something better suited. In 
their opinion, at that time, the WOLips tools WERE ready for the masses, as 
Apple had already been using them internally for a couple of years prior to 
that. 

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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

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> 
> 
> 
>> One could ague that Apple is recognizing the community and adjusting its 
>> convention strategy accordingly. Why have WO sessions at WWDC if such 
>> content are much better addressed at WOWODC?
> 
> I'm just making the point that Apple is not responding to the community's 
> drive to run conventions by pulling back - they pulled back beforehand. 
> Pascal didn't organise WOWODC because he wanted to duplicate efforts. But 
> certainly Apple being involved in WOWODC is a good thing.

And this is what we need to focus on!!! Teamwork all the way.

Dennis.

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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

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On 2009-11-24, at 3:39 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:

> On 25/11/2009, at 8:20 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:
> 
>> This is funny; however, from our experience, Apple does actually listen to 
>> us, and showing them an "i don't care" attitude will most likely result in 
>> us being stuck with 5.4.3 & Wonder, and Apple keeping WebObjects to 
>> themselves,
> 
> This makes no sense to me. If they[1] *did* listen[2] then they'd have 
> released WO 5.4.3.1 and 5.5 by now because that's what people have been 
> asking about for quite some time. In fact, they tested the waters with quasi 
> nightly builds ... but internal politics has seen the end of that.

Maybe they don't want to throw the new versions in front of a whole bunch of 
"angry lions". We all know about "internal politics", but realize that these 
are driven by people just you and me. IMHO, it is not always about the money, 
but also about people's emotions. If Apple's staff does like our tone, then why 
would they release new versions?

> 
>> and we'll never be synchronized with the latest and greatest Apple versions 
>> again, because we think we can all do it on our own. Very smart.
> 
> The community has arisen in response to Apple pulling back (e.g., Entity 
> Modeler was written because of Apple's decision to pull the tools). You've 
> got it backwards I'm afraid.

Not really, IMHO, Apple is now recognizing the great contributions from the 
community, which might be better than their own. Eclipse/EM seemed an obvious 
progression; so why stand in the way?

> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
> 
> 
> [1] by 'they' we mean Apple Computer Inc.
> [2] I know the WO devs at Apple themselves listen as I've had private 
> conversations with a few of them and have had very good responses. They 
> simply can't overcome internal politics.
> 
>> On 2009-11-24, at 12:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>> 
>>> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says or 
>>> does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's not 
>>> like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.
>>> 
>>> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are loyal, 
>>> or else HE might smite us like the flies we are!"
>>> 
>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
>>> 
>>>> If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to the 
>>>> community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and Linux. 
>>>> We should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do anything for 
>>>> us in the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only developing and 
>>>> deploying on Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that 5.4.3 will be 
>>>> the last version we will ever see...
>>>> 
>>>> With Kind Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>>>> Chief Technology Officer,
>>>> WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 2009-11-24, at 10:19 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 1) The customer sometimes is willing to compromise and give you a Linux 
>>>>> box ... deployment on Linux is as easy as Mac more-or-less. So, if they 
>>>>> won't let you use Mac, ask if you can use Linux and setup CentOS or 
>>>>> RHEL on it.
>>>>> 
>&

Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

> 
> Let's remember *why* these community conventions were organised... because 
> Apple, who used to offer various training in WO even internationally at one 
> stage has decided to offer very little.
> 
> Now it seems to me, given their WO direction, that it was good for them to 
> consolidate and concentrate on the frameworks - rather than the tools etc. 
> Having a vibrant community for your technology is not the enemy you're making 
> it out to be.

IMHO, nobody is making any enemies here. One could ague that Apple is 
recognizing the community and adjusting its convention strategy accordingly. 
Why have WO sessions at WWDC if such content are much better addressed at 
WOWODC?

> 
> Please no one dare have a Cocoa meeting as otherwise Apple won't provide 
> their own ;-)
> 
>>> My 2 cents.
> 
> I raise you 3 ;-)

Those were not mine, but Martin's :-)

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra, 
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.

> 
>>> kind regards,
>>> Martin.
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Johnny Miller  
>>> wrote:
>>> I agree that it's not smart to wait for Apple and I for one can continue 
>>> using WO by relying on the aid of the Wonder community.
>>> 
>>> But HP and IBM are 100 billion dollar + companies.  At some point to grow 
>>> revenue Apple is going to have to go back into the enterprise.
>>> 
>>> I just don't understand why Apple doesn't treat WO as a loss leader until 
>>> they are ready to diversify from consumer related products.  They could 
>>> have a great story in a vibrant community with lots of different kinds of 
>>> apps deployed.
>>> 
>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>> 
>>> Johnny
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Apple is a (what's it now 20? 30?) billion dollar company. They are (and 
>>>> should be) driven by what benefits their shareholders. It *may* be that 
>>>> some push from inside of Apple by some more enthusiastic developers inside 
>>>> of Apple *may* result in some - er, I can hardly say the word without a 
>>>> giggle fit - "speedier" release process.
>>>> 
>>>> But frankly, there is ample evidence to the contrary, that no matter how 
>>>> much prodding, begging or bitching will change the actual results in the 
>>>> slightest.
>>>> 
>>>> So I'd say that waiting for them to do something is plain stupid. If you 
>>>> rely on that, you're dead in the water. You just may not know it :) And 
>>>> btw, I'm "stuck" with 5.3.whatever and so far had no real problem with it.
>>>> 
>>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Am 24.11.2009 um 22:20 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
>>>> 
>>>>> This is funny; however, from our experience, Apple does actually listen 
>>>>> to us, and showing them an "i don't care" attitude will most likely 
>>>>> result in us being stuck with 5.4.3 & Wonder, and Apple keeping 
>>>>> WebObjects to themselves, and we'll never be synchronized with the latest 
>>>>> and greatest Apple versions again, because we think we can all do it on 
>>>>> our own. Very smart.
>>>>> 
>>>>> With Kind Regards,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dennis Gaastra,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2009-11-24, at 12:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says 
>>>>>> or does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's 
>>>>>> not like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are 
>>>>>> loyal, or else HE might smite us like the flies we are!"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers, Anjo
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to 
>>>>>>> the

Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

On 2009-11-24, at 1:52 PM, Martin Perez Barreiro wrote:

> Apple listens to Apple.

really, and also to our community.

> Im not sure how much they care about WO developers right now, come on!

believe me, they do!

> just looking at wwdc talks you can get the feeling wo is not an important 
> thin for Apple right now (at least wo developers outside Apple labs).

Since we (Pascal) the community have created our own convention, 
Apple agreed that this makes more sense has attended there. 
So why duplicate?

> 
> My 2 cents.
> 
> kind regards,
> Martin.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra, 

> 
> 
> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Johnny Miller  wrote:
> I agree that it's not smart to wait for Apple and I for one can continue 
> using WO by relying on the aid of the Wonder community.
> 
> But HP and IBM are 100 billion dollar + companies.  At some point to grow 
> revenue Apple is going to have to go back into the enterprise.
> 
> I just don't understand why Apple doesn't treat WO as a loss leader until 
> they are ready to diversify from consumer related products.  They could have 
> a great story in a vibrant community with lots of different kinds of apps 
> deployed.
> 
> Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Johnny
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 11:35 AM, Anjo Krank wrote:
> 
> > Apple is a (what's it now 20? 30?) billion dollar company. They are (and 
> > should be) driven by what benefits their shareholders. It *may* be that 
> > some push from inside of Apple by some more enthusiastic developers inside 
> > of Apple *may* result in some - er, I can hardly say the word without a 
> > giggle fit - "speedier" release process.
> >
> > But frankly, there is ample evidence to the contrary, that no matter how 
> > much prodding, begging or bitching will change the actual results in the 
> > slightest.
> >
> > So I'd say that waiting for them to do something is plain stupid. If you 
> > rely on that, you're dead in the water. You just may not know it :) And 
> > btw, I'm "stuck" with 5.3.whatever and so far had no real problem with it.
> >
> > Cheers, Anjo
> >
> >
> > Am 24.11.2009 um 22:20 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
> >
> >> This is funny; however, from our experience, Apple does actually listen to 
> >> us, and showing them an "i don't care" attitude will most likely result in 
> >> us being stuck with 5.4.3 & Wonder, and Apple keeping WebObjects to 
> >> themselves, and we'll never be synchronized with the latest and greatest 
> >> Apple versions again, because we think we can all do it on our own. Very 
> >> smart.
> >>
> >> With Kind Regards,
> >>
> >> Dennis Gaastra,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 2009-11-24, at 12:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:
> >>
> >>> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says 
> >>> or does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's 
> >>> not like they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.
> >>>
> >>> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are loyal, 
> >>> or else HE might smite us like the flies we are!"
> >>>
> >>> Cheers, Anjo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
> >>>
> >>>> If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to 
> >>>> the community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and 
> >>>> Linux. We should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do 
> >>>> anything for us in the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only 
> >>>> developing and deploying on Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that 
> >>>> 5.4.3 will be the last version we will ever see...
> >>>>
> >>>> With Kind Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> Dennis Gaastra,
> >>>> Chief Technology Officer,
> >>>> WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.
> >>>>
> >>>>
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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

This is funny; however, from our experience, Apple does actually listen to us, 
and showing them an "i don't care" attitude will most likely result in us being 
stuck with 5.4.3 & Wonder, and Apple keeping WebObjects to themselves, and 
we'll never be synchronized with the latest and greatest Apple versions again, 
because we think we can all do it on our own. Very smart. 

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra, 




On 2009-11-24, at 12:04 PM, Anjo Krank wrote:

> Jesus. Apple will do what they want. Nothing you, I or anybody else says or 
> does will make much of a difference. Nor should we really care, it's not like 
> they did something useful in the last 5 years or so.
> 
> You sound like they were some sort of rain god. "Let's show we are loyal, or 
> else HE might smite us like the flies we are!"
> 
> Cheers, Anjo
> 
> 
> 
> Am 24.11.2009 um 20:36 schrieb Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists:
> 
>> If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to the 
>> community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and Linux. We 
>> should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do anything for us in 
>> the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only developing and deploying on 
>> Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that 5.4.3 will be the last version 
>> we will ever see...
>> 
>> With Kind Regards,
>> 
>> Dennis Gaastra, 
>> Chief Technology Officer,
>> WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 2009-11-24, at 10:19 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:
>> 
>>> 1) The customer sometimes is willing to compromise and give you a Linux box 
>>> ... deployment on Linux is as easy as Mac more-or-less. So, if they won't 
>>> let you use Mac, ask if you can use Linux and setup CentOS or RHEL on 
>>> it.
>>> 
>>> 2) Project Wonder has source for Adaptors. I see IIS adaptor source in 
>>> there. No idea how good it is:
>>> 
>>> /Wonder/Utilities/Adaptors/IIS/
>>> 
>>> HTH, Kieran
>>> 
>>> On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Ralph Scheuer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everybody,
>>>> 
>>>> due to the fact that some of our customers use Windows servers, I would be 
>>>> interested how others deploy their WO apps on Windows these days...
>>>> 
>>>> The wiki only refers to Apache when it comes to WO 5.4 on Windows and does 
>>>> not mention IIS...
>>>> 
>>>> However, some customers need specific IIS features like Single-Sign-On via 
>>>> ActiveDirectory or do not want another web server for political reasons.
>>>> 
>>>> How do you deal with that?
>>>> 
>>>> Is it still possible to use the old 5.2 adaptors (CGI or ISAPI) with 
>>>> modern IIS versions and WO 5.4? How about 64-bit-ness?
>>>> 
>>>> Would it be possible to set up WO 5.2 and just replace all the frameworks 
>>>> with the 5.4 equivalents so that at least the CGI adaptor (WebObjects.exe) 
>>>> from the old version works?
>>>> 
>>>> Has Apple ever released the source of the Windows adaptors so that they 
>>>> could be recompiled for 64-bit IIS?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your input.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
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Re: State of Windows deployment in 2009?

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

If we want Apple  to release new WebObjects versions, beyond 5.4.3, to the 
community, the worst thing we can do is talking about Windows and Linux. We 
should be very clear about this: if we expect Apple to do anything for us in 
the regard, we should be loyal to Apple by only developing and deploying on 
Apple equipment. Otherwise, I am afraid that 5.4.3 will be the last version we 
will ever see...

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra, 
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-24, at 10:19 AM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:

> 1) The customer sometimes is willing to compromise and give you a Linux box 
> ... deployment on Linux is as easy as Mac more-or-less. So, if they won't let 
> you use Mac, ask if you can use Linux and setup CentOS or RHEL on it.
> 
> 2) Project Wonder has source for Adaptors. I see IIS adaptor source in there. 
> No idea how good it is:
> 
>   /Wonder/Utilities/Adaptors/IIS/
> 
> HTH, Kieran
> 
> On Nov 24, 2009, at 12:36 PM, Ralph Scheuer wrote:
> 
>> Hello everybody,
>> 
>> due to the fact that some of our customers use Windows servers, I would be 
>> interested how others deploy their WO apps on Windows these days...
>> 
>> The wiki only refers to Apache when it comes to WO 5.4 on Windows and does 
>> not mention IIS...
>> 
>> However, some customers need specific IIS features like Single-Sign-On via 
>> ActiveDirectory or do not want another web server for political reasons.
>> 
>> How do you deal with that?
>> 
>> Is it still possible to use the old 5.2 adaptors (CGI or ISAPI) with modern 
>> IIS versions and WO 5.4? How about 64-bit-ness?
>> 
>> Would it be possible to set up WO 5.2 and just replace all the frameworks 
>> with the 5.4 equivalents so that at least the CGI adaptor (WebObjects.exe) 
>> from the old version works?
>> 
>> Has Apple ever released the source of the Windows adaptors so that they 
>> could be recompiled for 64-bit IIS?
>> 
>> Thanks for your input.
>> 
>> Ralph
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Re: WO Mini conference in Southern California

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He's right; we have the same in West Vancouver!

Dennis/WEBAPPZ

On 2009-11-05, at 4:03 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote:


On 06/11/2009, at 10:53 AM, Chuck Hill wrote:




I hate all of you!


You've probably got cached values too ... do a refresh :-)



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Re: ReportMill [was Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters]

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Mark, Pascal, and List,

Not really, as I am sure, most of the advanced WebObjects developers  
have their own (Grouped)List and Edit(Detail) classes, e.g. Wonder/D2W/ 
LISTedit, where these objects (could) have their own appendPDF  
functions. E.g. with our LISTedit framework, this is coded in (with  
very few lines), so for the end-developer, there is no coding at all.  
The user just presses on a "Print" Button, et voila... 10x faster  
rendering than iText... and since these are your own WebObjects  
classes,  of course, you can use Key Value Coding, etc


We would suggest showing this at WOWDC if people like, in addition to  
creating more complicated reports, that you generally cannot create  
with other PDF generators, such as Calendars, Schedules, Timesheets,  
and Complex Invoices.


With ReportMill, which we had used up to 2001, none of this was  
possible. We also found that coding for an hour achieved much more  
exact results than fiddling with a template editor for three hours.


And, of course, the PDFkit is free to the community, and will always  
be certified for the latest version of WebObjects and Java.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.





On 2009-11-03, at 8:33 AM, Mark Morris wrote:

Following up my own post, I know that when I was using iText, and  
I'm assuming with PDFKit, you have more freedom to do whatever you  
want, wherever you want, than you do with a template-based tool,  
but, at least with iText, at a cost of significantly slower  
development time for the vast majority of the cases.


Regards,
Mark

On Nov 3, 2009, at 10:25 AM, Mark Morris wrote:

Other than price and "open-source-ness", are there disadvantages to  
ReportMill versus other tools?  I've been pretty happy with it, so  
much so that I haven't been paying much attention to alternatives  
lately.


Thanks,
Mark

On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

I'm interested in PDFKit or anything that could help us phase out  
ReportMill.  :-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports coding,  
our "Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest large WO  
scheduling engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to revisit  
Montreal; the last time I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will be  
busy preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to SF. It  
also allow me to deliver a better conference since I can  
actually go to the hotel to see everything and test Net access  
before signing the contract, no bad surprises like we have every  
year in SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year on  
the East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we will  
need co-organizers for that (even if I would like to, I can't go  
visit every city in NA in two days :-)). But that's for 2011 and  
up, we are far from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is the  
official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm in",  
and we will have two rooms so that we can have concurrent  
presentations (and plenty of lab time).  Check the Presenters  
FAQ here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end, but  
95% chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis like  
we did for WOWODC East 2009.


Pascal Robert
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Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

It appears that several people on this list are promoting all kinds of  
other PDF generating frameworks, for whatever reasons they have.


We were proposing to present at the WOWDC on how to make some advanced  
PDF reports that cannot be created with the regular template systems;  
with a fair amount of new example code.


However, if this appears not to be of benefit to most of the  
community, maybe we should focus on presenting the other items.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.




On 2009-11-02, at 1:42 PM, Kieran Kelleher wrote:


Ricardo,

JasperReports . Free, OpenSource.  it works . easy,  
peasy... only thing u have to do is buy JasperReports 3.5 for  
Java Developers from amazon.com since there is no easy to find free  
documentation . yet ;-)


Regards, Kieran


On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

I'm interested in PDFKit or anything that could help us phase out  
ReportMill.  :-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports coding,  
our "Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest large WO  
scheduling engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to revisit  
Montreal; the last time I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will be  
busy preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to SF. It  
also allow me to deliver a better conference since I can actually  
go to the hotel to see everything and test Net access before  
signing the contract, no bad surprises like we have every year in  
SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year on  
the East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we will  
need co-organizers for that (even if I would like to, I can't go  
visit every city in NA in two days :-)). But that's for 2011 and  
up, we are far from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is the  
official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm in", and  
we will have two rooms so that we can have concurrent  
presentations (and plenty of lab time).  Check the Presenters FAQ  
here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end, but  
95% chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis like we  
did for WOWODC East 2009.


Pascal Robert
prob...@macti.ca

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Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters

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No, a limiting template system is - exactly - the reason why we  
created our kit in 2001, since the regular reporting engines do this  
already. We wanted to accommodate those who have more specific  
requirements and would like to use 100% JAVA code for this purpose. If  
you look at the "Advanced Examples", you'll see that those cannot be  
easily created with regular engines. Also in terms of speed, our kit  
is very fast at generation, since it does not rely on any other  
frameworks or third party code, is 100% developed for WebObjects, and  
its internal algorithms are highly optimized for performance and  
scalability.



With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.



On 2009-11-02, at 1:33 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:



Does PDFKit have an app an for editing templates, i.e. like RMStudio  
in ReportMill?


Thanks,
Ricardo


On Nov 2, 2009, at 4:27 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


The PDFkit is officially free since 2007!


On 2009-11-02, at 1:20 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

Does it have free deployment license?  RM is several thousand per  
server.


:-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


This looks very promising: http://www.pentaho.com/products/reporting/


On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We already have PDFKit and Jasper Reports as tech, now we just  
need someone for ERPDF and all options will be presented :-)


I'm interested in PDFKit or anything that could help us phase  
out ReportMill.  :-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports  
coding, our "Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest  
large WO scheduling engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to  
revisit Montreal; the last time I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will  
be busy preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to  
SF. It also allow me to deliver a better conference since I  
can actually go to the hotel to see everything and test Net  
access before signing the contract, no bad surprises like we  
have every year in SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year  
on the East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we  
will need co-organizers for that (even if I would like to, I  
can't go visit every city in NA in two days :-)). But that's  
for 2011 and up, we are far from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is  
the official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm  
in", and we will have two rooms so that we can have  
concurrent presentations (and plenty of lab time).  Check the  
Presenters FAQ here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end,  
but 95% chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis  
like we did for WOWODC East 2009.


Pascal Robert
prob...@macti.ca

My first name is Pascal, NOT Robert :-)


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Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

The PDFkit is officially free since 2007!


On 2009-11-02, at 1:20 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

Does it have free deployment license?  RM is several thousand per  
server.


:-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 3:26 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


This looks very promising: http://www.pentaho.com/products/reporting/


On Nov 2, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

We already have PDFKit and Jasper Reports as tech, now we just  
need someone for ERPDF and all options will be presented :-)


I'm interested in PDFKit or anything that could help us phase out  
ReportMill.  :-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports coding,  
our "Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest large WO  
scheduling engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to revisit  
Montreal; the last time I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will be  
busy preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to SF. It  
also allow me to deliver a better conference since I can  
actually go to the hotel to see everything and test Net access  
before signing the contract, no bad surprises like we have  
every year in SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year  
on the East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we  
will need co-organizers for that (even if I would like to, I  
can't go visit every city in NA in two days :-)). But that's  
for 2011 and up, we are far from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is the  
official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm in",  
and we will have two rooms so that we can have concurrent  
presentations (and plenty of lab time).  Check the Presenters  
FAQ here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end, but  
95% chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis like  
we did for WOWODC East 2009.


Pascal Robert
prob...@macti.ca

My first name is Pascal, NOT Robert :-)


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Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Yes, exactly for that, we were thinking of presenting examples - how  
to code the reports shown in:


http://webappz.com/products/PDFkit/downloads.html "Advanced Examples"

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
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WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.



On 2009-11-02, at 12:04 PM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:

I'm interested in PDFKit or anything that could help us phase out  
ReportMill.  :-)


On Nov 2, 2009, at 2:51 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports coding, our  
"Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest large WO scheduling  
engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to revisit Montreal; the last  
time I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will be  
busy preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to SF. It  
also allow me to deliver a better conference since I can actually  
go to the hotel to see everything and test Net access before  
signing the contract, no bad surprises like we have every year in  
SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year on  
the East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we will need  
co-organizers for that (even if I would like to, I can't go visit  
every city in NA in two days :-)). But that's for 2011 and up, we  
are far from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is the  
official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm in", and  
we will have two rooms so that we can have concurrent  
presentations (and plenty of lab time).  Check the Presenters FAQ  
here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end, but 95%  
chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis like we did  
for WOWODC East 2009.


Pascal Robert
prob...@macti.ca

My first name is Pascal, NOT Robert :-)


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Re: WOWODC 2010 : call for presenters

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Bonjour Pacal,

How about I present some of our PDFkit advanced reports coding, our  
"Cloud Computing" engine bizDAV, and our newest large WO scheduling  
engine scheduleDS. It would be nice to revisit Montreal; the last time  
I was there was in 1977.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 2009-11-02, at 11:09 AM, Pascal Robert wrote:


Hello everyone,

So WOWODC 2010 will be held on August 27th, 28th and 29th in  
Montreal. Ok, before people ask : why not in SF again? Plain  
answer : we are moving to a new building in July so we will be busy  
preparing for the move and I can't afford to go to SF. It also allow  
me to deliver a better conference since I can actually go to the  
hotel to see everything and test Net access before signing the  
contract, no bad surprises like we have every year in SF!


Still, for 2011 and later, we want to do a rotation, one year on the  
East coast of NA, one year on the West coast, and we will need co- 
organizers for that (even if I would like to, I can't go visit every  
city in NA in two days :-)). But that's for 2011 and up, we are far  
from that.


So mark your calendars, and if you want to present, this is the  
official call for presenters. 4 of you already said "I'm in", and we  
will have two rooms so that we can have concurrent presentations  
(and plenty of lab time).  Check the Presenters FAQ here :


http://www.wocommunity.org/wowodc10/presenters-faq.html

Pricing and venue will be confirmed before the year's end, but 95%  
chance we will go back to the Gouverneur Place Dupuis like we did  
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=== PDFkit one more thing... ===

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Please run our kit in 64-bit mode; e.g. by adding "-d64" as a launch  
argument. PDF generation is about 33 to 50 percent faster than in 32- 
bit mode. For example, the 38 page general ledger report takes .23  
seconds to generate. This is real speed! Now try to do this with iText  
or ReportMill.


With Kind Regards,

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=== PDFkit Examples ===

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Dear WebObjecters,

We have some really cool examples of how we use the PDFkit for our own  
WebObjects projects:


Advanced Examples

http://www.webappz.com/downloads/WEBAPPZ_PDFkitExamples_5_4_3.tgz


With Kind Regards,

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=== WEBAPPZ releases PDFkit 5.4.3 ===

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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE / September 17, 2009

WEBAPPZ releases PDFkit 5.4.3.

After several years since the first release of WEBAPPZ's PDFkit,  
WEBAPPZ is making the product available at no charge. WEBAPPZ has  
decided to modernize its revenue model regarding its PDF generation  
product. Instead of charging up-front fees for its PDFkit product, the  
product will be available for free, and WEBAPPZ will only charge for  
optional support and training related to the product.


PDFkit is an easy to use, powerful software tool that generates web  
browser embedded PDF files, including table-based PDF reports. The  
ability to add images to any of the pages and to add multiple tables  
consecutively are just some of the features. The tables use a cell- 
based architecture enabling many color, font, and image combinations  
to meet different user requirements. WEBAPPZ uses it internally to  
generate schedules, calendars, timesheets, invoices, accounting system  
reports, and student report cards. Really it can be used for any time  
of PDF documents, as it allows a developer to write many layers on top  
of it.


For version 5.4.3, we have moved away from the standard Mac OS X  
installer, and instead, provide the framework in a generic compressed  
format, so that it can be installed on any operating system. Version  
5.4.3 offers several stability, compatibility, and performance  
enhancements over the previous version 5.4.0.


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  PDFkit framework SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT 20071218
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up.

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3. EXTRACT the file into "RCMPDFkit.framework":
* On Mac OS, this is done automatically by double clicking the file.

4. MOVE the "RCMPDFkit.framework" directory into "/Library/ 
Frameworks", or wherever else you like to install your webobjects  
frameworks.

* Why RCM? This was our original company name before we acquired
  the WEBAPPZ® trademark.

5. DOWNLOAD the newest tutorials as an Eclipse/WOLips Project from:
* "http://www.webappz.com/downloads/WEBAPPZ_PDFkitTutorials_5_4_3.tgz";

6. DOWNLOAD the documentation from:
* "http://www.webappz.com/downloads/PDFkit_API_V2.0.pdf";
* Note: this reference is still for version 2.0, all improvements
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PLEASE:

1. Complete Pascal's WebObjects Community 2009 surveys and select  
PDFkit in question 14: http://www.survs.com/survey?id=CRDU8UY3&channel=T8TGXAW70R

2. Tell us how you [are, have been, will be] using our PDFkit.
3. Provide us with some more testimonials, acknowledgements, and links.
4. The next layer up from the PDFkit is LISTedit, you might want to  
try this.
5. Spread the word. We have over ten years of WebObjects experience  
and are currently serving the largest driving schools in Western  
Canada. If you've got any upcoming WebObjects projects you need help  
with, contact us.

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PDFkit 5.4.3 Release Format Requested

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Dear WebObjecters,

Since we have released version 5.4.0 of our PDFkit, we have gotten  
about 50 download requests over the last year.
We are about to release version 5.4.3 version with several stability,  
compatibility, and performance enhancements.
Last time, it was released as a standalone Leopard Installer. Several  
developers asked for other formats.


Which format is preferred:

1) As a zipped up ".framework"  to be installed by the user; and the  
user downloads documentation from our website; or

2) As a zipped up ".framework" and documentation; or
3) Like previously, as a Leopard Installer.

Please let us know your preference and we'll have it out shortly.

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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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This is server admin 10.6 (clean install) connecting to a 10.5 server.

D/

On 2009-09-01, at 10:42 AM, Klaus Berkling wrote:



On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:32 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


This is from Server Admin 10.6



Interesting, it shows up in the UI for you.  Did you upgrade or  
install Snow Leopard clean and installed WebObjects manually  
afterwards?


Thanks

kib

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continue that counts."

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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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Pierre Rocks!!!

A while ago, I had the pleasure of meeting his whole team; they are  
excellent.


BTW: He is also a local from Vancouver, BC.

Dennis.

On 2009-08-31, at 10:35 PM, Michael DeMan (GS) wrote:

It seems a bit unreasonable to attribute a fully tested product to  
one individual.


I would be more than happy to see a '5.5 preview' sort of release,  
so we can all move forward as best we can and also respect, and be  
helpful with, the normal(?) Q/A process at Apple for WebObjects.


- mike

On Aug 31, 2009, at 10:13 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:

I am pretty confident, now that Pierre is in charge there, he would  
have all this in place.


D/

On 2009-08-31, at 9:31 PM, Michael DeMan (GS) wrote:


A 5.5 'preview' release would be appropriate.

I don't know about anybody else, but regression testing for  
glitches in WO updates is always an issue.


5.5 'cavet emptor' => better quality for supported customers ?


On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List and Pierre,

Please provide links and installation instructions to download  
the new WebObjects 5.5, for both:


- development  on Snow Leopard; and
- deployment of Snow Leopard Server.

Or do we still have to wait...

Thanks.

With Kind Regards,

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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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This is also from Server Admin 10.6; the new, not quite working Monitor plugin section.
With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com

On 2009-09-01, at 9:17 AM, Klaus Berkling wrote:On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:Note: The Snow Leopard Server Admin Tools "still" have the WO "Service" plugin. It is actually better than 10.5, since there is a new "Monitor" section with a log for "WebObjects Service" and "Monitor".How did you actually enable it - since it doesn't show up in the UI (Services).Sigh Thankskib"We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."Walt DisneyKlaus BerklingWeb Application Dev. & Systems AdministratorDynEd International, Inc.www.dyned.com | www.eskimo.com/~kiberkli  ___Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.Webobjects-dev mailing list  (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.comThis email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com ___
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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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This is from Server Admin 10.6
With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com

On 2009-09-01, at 9:17 AM, Klaus Berkling wrote:On Aug 31, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:Note: The Snow Leopard Server Admin Tools "still" have the WO "Service" plugin. It is actually better than 10.5, since there is a new "Monitor" section with a log for "WebObjects Service" and "Monitor".How did you actually enable it - since it doesn't show up in the UI (Services).Sigh Thankskib"We keep moving forward, opening new doors, and doing new things, because we're curious and curiosity keeps leading us down new paths."Walt DisneyKlaus BerklingWeb Application Dev. & Systems AdministratorDynEd International, Inc.www.dyned.com | www.eskimo.com/~kiberkli  ___Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.Webobjects-dev mailing list  (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.comThis email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com ___
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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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I am pretty confident, now that Pierre is in charge there, he would  
have all this in place.


D/

On 2009-08-31, at 9:31 PM, Michael DeMan (GS) wrote:


A 5.5 'preview' release would be appropriate.

I don't know about anybody else, but regression testing for glitches  
in WO updates is always an issue.


5.5 'cavet emptor' => better quality for supported customers ?


On Aug 31, 2009, at 3:20 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List and Pierre,

Please provide links and installation instructions to download the  
new WebObjects 5.5, for both:


- development  on Snow Leopard; and
- deployment of Snow Leopard Server.

Or do we still have to wait...

Thanks.

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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Re: Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

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I guess there was never a 5.4.3 API. Will the new 5.5.x be "non-legacy"?

Note: The Snow Leopard Server Admin Tools "still" have the WO  
"Service" plugin. It is actually better than 10.5, since there is a  
new "Monitor" section with a log for "WebObjects Service" and "Monitor".


D/

On 2009-08-31, at 5:12 PM, Louis Demers wrote:



On 31-Aug-09, at 19:52 , Ramsey Lee Gurley wrote:



I think *really soon* is a safe bet though...  Notice the URL on  
the latest API docs lately?


http://developer.apple.com/legacy/mac/library/documentation/InternetWeb/Reference/WO542Reference/index.html

Hey, either that or "WO is teh dying!!"


from the URL, I'd say so's the mac !

That's it, we all have to move to the iPhone  8-) 8-) 8-)




(~_^)

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Snow Leopard Development and Deployment

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List and Pierre,

Please provide links and installation instructions to download the new  
WebObjects 5.5, for both:


- development  on Snow Leopard; and
- deployment of Snow Leopard Server.

Or do we still have to wait...

Thanks.

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
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Re: Does Snow Leopard play nice with Eclipse/WOLips?

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I was actually thinking of a newer 5.5+ version

On 2009-08-29, at 9:02 PM, Phillip Hutchings wrote:


On 30/08/2009, at 3:54 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi All,

Where do we get the "new" WO from Apple?



From an earlier discussion:

On 29/08/2009, at 8:54 AM, John Bruce wrote:


I just installed it from the WebObjects 5.4.3 update which you can
download here:

http://support.apple.com/downloads/WebObjects_Update_5_4_3_for_Mac_OS_X_10_5

The only part that didn't work straight away was the Apache 2.2
adaptor but replacing it with the one that Mike Schrag made available
worked fine:

http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/mod_WebObjects/Apache2.2/macosx/10.6/mod_WebObjects.so

HTH

- John


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Re: Does Snow Leopard play nice with Eclipse/WOLips?

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Hi All,

Where do we get the "new" WO from Apple?

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.



On 2009-08-29, at 7:37 PM, Phillip Hutchings wrote:


On 30/08/2009, at 8:47 AM, Ricardo J. Parada wrote:



Hi All,

Has anybody installed the latest cat?  Does it play nice with  
Eclipse 3.4.2 and WOLips?



I've been using it for a while, it works quite well. You'll need to  
install the old WO, but you can download that from ADC.


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Re: Generate PDF from dynamically generated WOComponents...

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Hi There,

We have some expertise with generating dynamic PDF with our PDFkit: 
http://www.webappz.com/products/PDFkit.html

It might be possible to translate some of that knowledge into  
javascript PDF generation.


Please email, off-list, if you are interested.

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On 30-Apr-09, at 1:32 PM, Phillip Hutchings wrote:

On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 05:09, shravan kumar   
wrote:

Thanks so much for all your on-time responses.
Could you please let me know whether the suggested tools also do  
satisfy

below need:

Basically, I have few components (as I detailed in my initial  
email) and

each component can in runtime be delivered as one or more pages.
I would like to generate PDF from these components offline  
_without_ browser

interaction on the server-side once the user has confirmed the wizard
content.

And most of these components design is dependent on _javascript_  
that gets

executed once the document is ready.

Does any of these tools supports the above need as well? Please  
advise.

Thanks so much,


Apache FOP does not fit those requirements, and in fact I don't
believe anything does, and I also don't believe that it's possible.
JavaScript doesn't have the opportunity to return arbitrary data to
the browser, only HTML.

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Re: upgrading w/ eclipse 3.4.2

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Hi Kevin,

What is the full path of the "p2" dir? Can we just do a "rm -r *" in  
there?


Thanks.

Dennis.


On 15-Apr-09, at 1:33 PM, Ren, Kevin wrote:


What I did( from memory)
1. delete anything under cache dir in p2
2. remove wolips from "Software updates->Available software list"
3.refresh and restart eclipse
4. add wolips(link) again in available software
5. refresh and update to latest version


hopeful is help and working. it's not wolips problem, i think it's  
eclipse issue.


cheers

Kevin
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Subject: Re: upgrading w/ eclipse 3.4.2

Hi Mike,

Do you suggest a re-install to upgrade from nightly 3.4.5693 then?  
Thanks.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,




On 15-Apr-09, at 12:14 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

yes, but only made changes to nightly, so whatever was broken  
originally would continue to be broken for you if you're on stable.


On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

Right, but I think I've been having this problem since before  
there was a new stable? Ever since I updated to Eclipse 3.4.2, the  
updater "sees" an update for WOLips but then I get the errors  
everyone is reporting when I actually try to update.


Tim

On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

stable wouldn't have changed, so i'm not surprised ... stable is  
just a snapshot of whenever it was made -- it never changes until  
a new stable is pushed


On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

I'm still having the same issue and I'm trying to go from the  
last stable I got (prior to the issue) to the newer stable.


Tim
UCLA GSE&IS

On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Yes, 3.4.2; see picture attached:



With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,



On 15-Apr-09, at 11:00 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and you're trying to upgrade from an eclipse 3.4 + nightly to  
a new nightly, right?  not from eclipse 3.3, or from stable to  
nightly?


On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Mike,

Thanks for trying, but still not working: there is still a  
huge list of "no repository found containing ... /3.4.5719"  
lines.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 15-Apr-09, at 10:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was able to upgrade my wolips from eclipse 3.4.2 just  
now ... the people that were having problems try again and  
see what happens?


ms

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Re: upgrading w/ eclipse 3.4.2

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Hi Mike,

Do you suggest a re-install to upgrade from nightly 3.4.5693 then?  
Thanks.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,




On 15-Apr-09, at 12:14 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

yes, but only made changes to nightly, so whatever was broken  
originally would continue to be broken for you if you're on stable.


On Apr 15, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

Right, but I think I've been having this problem since before there  
was a new stable? Ever since I updated to Eclipse 3.4.2, the  
updater "sees" an update for WOLips but then I get the errors  
everyone is reporting when I actually try to update.


Tim

On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:38 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

stable wouldn't have changed, so i'm not surprised ... stable is  
just a snapshot of whenever it was made -- it never changes until  
a new stable is pushed


On Apr 15, 2009, at 2:18 PM, Tim Worman wrote:

I'm still having the same issue and I'm trying to go from the  
last stable I got (prior to the issue) to the newer stable.


Tim
UCLA GSE&IS

On Apr 15, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Yes, 3.4.2; see picture attached:



With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,



On 15-Apr-09, at 11:00 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

and you're trying to upgrade from an eclipse 3.4 + nightly to a  
new nightly, right?  not from eclipse 3.3, or from stable to  
nightly?


On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Mike,

Thanks for trying, but still not working: there is still a  
huge list of "no repository found containing ... /3.4.5719"  
lines.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 15-Apr-09, at 10:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was able to upgrade my wolips from eclipse 3.4.2 just  
now ... the people that were having problems try again and  
see what happens?


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Re: upgrading w/ eclipse 3.4.2

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Yes, 3.4.2; see picture attached: With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra,  On 15-Apr-09, at 11:00 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:and you're trying to upgrade from an eclipse 3.4 + nightly to a new nightly, right?  not from eclipse 3.3, or from stable to nightly?On Apr 15, 2009, at 1:49 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:Hi Mike,Thanks for trying, but still not working: there is still a huge list of "no repository found containing ... /3.4.5719" lines.With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com On 15-Apr-09, at 10:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:i was able to upgrade my wolips from eclipse 3.4.2 just now ... the people that were having problems try again and see what happens?ms___Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.Webobjects-dev mailing list  (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.comThis email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com ___Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored.Webobjects-dev mailing list  (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com)Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription:http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects_lists%40webappz.comThis email sent to webobjects_li...@webappz.com ___
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Re: upgrading w/ eclipse 3.4.2

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Hi Mike,

Thanks for trying, but still not working: there is still a huge list  
of "no repository found containing ... /3.4.5719" lines.


With Kind Regards,

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Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 15-Apr-09, at 10:22 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

i was able to upgrade my wolips from eclipse 3.4.2 just now ... the  
people that were having problems try again and see what happens?


ms

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WOLips Can't update with Eclipse 3.4.2. Was: Eclipse+wolips nightly update failed

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Dear List,Is this problem being worked on?Thanks. With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra, Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. E-mail transmission cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. The sender therefore does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message, which arise as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required please request a hard-copy version. WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc., 726 - 1489 Marine Drive, West Vancouver, BC, CANADA V7T 1B8, www.webappz.com On 18-Mar-09, at 8:35 PM, Ren, Kevin wrote: I am in Eclipse 3.4.2, not sure when upgrade from 3.4.1Maybe this is the reason?Kevin-Original Message-From: Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists [mailto:webobjects_li...@webappz.com] Sent: Thursday, 19 March 2009 1:43 p.m.To: WebObjects-Dev Mailing List ListCc: TW; Ren, Kevin; Mike SchragSubject: Re: Eclipse+wolips nightly update failedWe have the same problem here as well.Is this due to the fact that we are running Eclipse 3.4.2 instead of3.4.1?With Kind Regards,Dennis Gaastra,Chief Technology Officer,WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc. ___
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Re: Eclipse+wolips nightly update failed

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We have the same problem here as well.
Is this due to the fact that we are running Eclipse 3.4.2 instead of  
3.4.1?


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
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On 18-Mar-09, at 4:26 PM, David Holt wrote:


It happened to me last night as well. I'm stuck at 3.4.5693

David

On 18-Mar-09, at 4:17 PM, TW wrote:

There's been a couple threads about this - this is the first  
response with an explanation. :-) However, I get this every single  
time I check for updates. And the last time I had it happen, I had  
to re-install Eclipse to fix it.


Tim
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On Mar 18, 2009, at 3:07 PM, Q wrote:

Restart eclipse. This can happen if the build on the mdimension  
server is a newer build than when eclipse last checked and cached  
the site.xml from the update url.


On 19/03/2009, at 8:01 AM, Ren, Kevin wrote:



Hi,

I got Eclipse3.4 and WOlips install on Ubuntu, and got update  
failed after 3.4.5693


Tried this morning and got this message in eclipse3.4

An error  occurred while collecting items to be installed
No repository found containing: org.objectstyle.wolips/ 
osgi.bundle/3.4.5697
No repository found containing: org.objectstyle.wolips.ant/ 
osgi.bundle/3.4.5697
No repository found containing: org.objectstyle.wolips.apieditor/ 
osgi.bundle/3.4.5697

….

Sounds like anything related to osgi


Anybody have idea,

Thanks

Kevin



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Re: ADC has tutorial on WebObjects using WOLips

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Wow; is this the first time, Apple officially mentions Eclipse/WOLips  
in a guide?

However, too bad, that they mention the old Europa versions...

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
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On 23-Feb-09, at 8:26 AM, Henrique Gomes wrote:



Didn't see this mentioned, might be of interesse to some.


<1dot.gif><1dot.gif>
Getting Started
A guided introduction and learning path for developers new to  
WebObjects.	

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Steps for building a simple WebObjects application using Eclipse and  
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Re: OT: Drew Davidson

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Maybe Apple is the FINAL destination for all of us Two of our  
comrades have already ended up there.


With Kind Regards,

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On 19-Feb-09, at 2:12 PM, Pascal Robert wrote:

Well, everytime time a WO dude go to work for Apple, we don't hear  
from them anymore, pretty much the equivalent of "dead" to me :-)



Drew!  I thought you were dead (really).  I'm glad your not and I'm
glad you're at Apple.

-Lon

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:51 PM, Drew Davidson   
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'sup

- Drew
On Feb 19, 2009, at 2:45 PM, Ryan Klems wrote:

He's the one responsible for the new combined template parser in  
WO 54... so

forward any complaints on to him, I know I do ;-)

-Ryan

On Feb 19, 2009, at 1:41 PM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Anyone know what happened to Drew Davidson, he was one of the  
creators


of OGNL and WebOGNL.  Just curious.

He works for Apple ...

ms

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HELP: JAVA wotaskd CRASH

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Dear List,

It appears our whole WebObjects deployment - 20 instances running -  
subsystem has crashed at random on one of our servers; see system.log  
and CrashReporter Log:


Has anybody else ever seen this?

Would it be a Java or H/W fault?

Thanks for your input.

Dennis
WEBAPPZ


Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 ReportCrash[12483]: Formulating crash report  
for process java[45]
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 11083 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 11082 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10906 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10905 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10730 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10729 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10482 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10481 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10306 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10305 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10129 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10128 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2690 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2479 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2234 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2233 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1951 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1740 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1495 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1494 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Exited abnormally: Bus error
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Reading  
MacOSClassPath.txt ...
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Checking  
network services
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Launching  
wotaskd.woa ...
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: java - 
XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m -DWORootDirectory="/System" - 
DWOLocalRootDirectory="" -DWOUserDirectory="/" -DWOEnvClassPath="" - 
DWOApplicationClass=Application -DWOPlatform=MacOS - 
Dcom.webobjects.pid=12484 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote=false - 
classpath WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap - 
WOPort 1085
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 ReportCrash[12483]: Saved crashreport to / 
Library/Logs/CrashReporter/java_2009-02-18-165032_cluster7.crash using  
uid: 0 gid: 0, euid: 0 egid: 0
Feb 18 16:50:35 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Loading / 
System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/Contents/MacOS/ 
MacOSClassPath.txt
Feb 18 16:50:35 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Generated  
classpath:



CrashReporter

Process: java [45]
Path:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/ 
1.5.0/Home/bin/java

Identifier:  java
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [1]

Date/Time:   2009-02-18 16:50:32.466 -0800
OS Version:  Mac OS X Server 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x

java wotaskd crash

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,

It appears our whole WebObjects deployment - 20 instances running -  
subsystem has crashed at random on one of our servers; see system.log  
and CrashReporter Log:


Has anybody else ever seen this?

Would it be a Java or H/W fault?

Thanks for your input.

Dennis
WEBAPPZ


Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 ReportCrash[12483]: Formulating crash report  
for process java[45]
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 11083 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 11082 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10906 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10905 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10730 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10729 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10482 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10481 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10306 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10305 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10129 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 10128 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2690 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2479 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2234 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 2233 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1951 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1740 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1495 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Stray process with PGID equal to this  
dead job: PID 1494 PPID 1 java
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.apple.launchd[1]  
(com.webobjects.wotaskd[45]): Exited abnormally: Bus error
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Reading  
MacOSClassPath.txt ...
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Checking  
network services
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Launching  
wotaskd.woa ...
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: java - 
XX:NewSize=2m -Xmx64m -Xms32m -DWORootDirectory="/System" - 
DWOLocalRootDirectory="" -DWOUserDirectory="/" -DWOEnvClassPath="" - 
DWOApplicationClass=Application -DWOPlatform=MacOS - 
Dcom.webobjects.pid=12484 -Dcom.sun.management.jmxremote=false - 
classpath WOBootstrap.jar com.webobjects._bootstrap.WOBootstrap - 
WOPort 1085
Feb 18 16:50:34 cluster7 ReportCrash[12483]: Saved crashreport to / 
Library/Logs/CrashReporter/java_2009-02-18-165032_cluster7.crash using  
uid: 0 gid: 0, euid: 0 egid: 0
Feb 18 16:50:35 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Loading / 
System/Library/WebObjects/JavaApplications/wotaskd.woa/Contents/MacOS/ 
MacOSClassPath.txt
Feb 18 16:50:35 cluster7 com.webobjects.wotaskd[12484]: Generated  
classpath:



CrashReporter

Process: java [45]
Path:/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/ 
1.5.0/Home/bin/java

Identifier:  java
Version: ??? (???)
Code Type:   X86 (Native)
Parent Process:  launchd [1]

Date/Time:   2009-02-18 16:50:32.466 -0800
OS Version:  Mac OS X Server 10.5.6 (9G55)
Report Version:  6

Exception Type:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x0

Re: Opinions Please - WebObjects JVM Encoding Strategies

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi All,

Thanks, but we wanted to know if anybody touches the "file.encoding"  
java property since it has always defaulted to "MacRoman", and has  
only recently been changed in Eclipse 3.4 to "UTF-8". The kit supports  
UTF-8 for input text by default. However, for its output fonts, the  
PDF uses "MacRomanEncoding" or "WinAnsiEncoding"; and there is no such  
thing as UTF-8, AFIK.


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.



On 3-Feb-09, at 7:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Feb 3, 2009, at 6:23 PM, David LeBer wrote:



On 3-Feb-09, at 8:23 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,
cc: Piere Frish - WebObjects Visionary

We noticed that our PDFkit does not work properly with the newest  
Eclipse/WOLips 3.4.
It turns out that when applications launch from the newest  
Eclipse, they have the property:


file.encoding=UTF-8		- Our PDFkit produces special characters  
incorrectly


previously with Eclipse 3.3.X, and still case with deployment:

file.encoding=MacRoman  - All OK

Now what is the best strategy going forward?

- Force the property to always be MacRoman with System.setProperty  
or -Dfile.encoding=; or
- Force the property to always be UTF-8 + redo all our PDF fonts  
for UTF-8; or

- any ideas?

Please advice, as we want to announce the newest PDFkit 5.4.3  
soon! Thanks.


Dennis,

I can only speak from our experience, and we currently have no  
requirement for a PDF framework, so take this in that light, but we  
have been using UTF-8 encoding exclusively for all WO apps and DBs  
for several years now.  Knowing the grief it caused before we  
standardized and got everything aligned, I think we would be  
hesitant to use any third party framework that didn't fully support  
UTF-8.



I'll just piggy back on David's thoughts.  If you are doing  
something for the web, UTF-8 is the right choice. MacRoman, clearly,  
is not.  Wonder goes to a bit of trouble to ensure that everything  
is consistently UTF-8.



Chuck

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Opinions Please - WebObjects JVM Encoding Strategies

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Dear List,
cc: Piere Frish - WebObjects Visionary

We noticed that our PDFkit does not work properly with the newest  
Eclipse/WOLips 3.4.
It turns out that when applications launch from the newest Eclipse,  
they have the property:


file.encoding=UTF-8		- Our PDFkit produces special characters  
incorrectly


previously with Eclipse 3.3.X, and still case with deployment:

file.encoding=MacRoman  - All OK

Now what is the best strategy going forward?

- Force the property to always be MacRoman with System.setProperty or - 
Dfile.encoding=; or
- Force the property to always be UTF-8 + redo all our PDF fonts for  
UTF-8; or

- any ideas?

Please advice, as we want to announce the newest PDFkit 5.4.3 soon!  
Thanks.



With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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Re: More Eclipse Upgrading Pains: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Mike,

Everything stock (pasted from a new WO Framework), except for the top  
line:




This was from the past: After saving changes to the frameworks would  
right-away be installed, and reflected in the applications - on the  
development enviroment.


Is this not necessary anymore? We don't mind the catch you just  
mentioned.


If no, then what would you recommend as the new strategy to do this in  
3.4.


Thanks for all the help,

Dennis
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On 1-Feb-09, at 7:02 AM, Mike Schrag wrote:

Whatever was provided with a new 3.4 Framework, and just replaced  
the name on the top.
You must have been building a different target, because it's never  
been the default target to do an install.  So if you made changes to  
your ant file, you obviously have to do a similar changes in the new  
one.  Using the incremental builder, btw, is going to be a lot  
faster.  The catch is that if you do a deployment from Eclipse you  
will need to remember to build your dependent framework projects as  
well.


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Re: More Eclipse Upgrading Pains: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Whatever was provided with a new 3.4 Framework, and just replaced the  
name on the top.


On 31-Jan-09, at 9:56 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 9:46 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Chuck,

Everything stock.

But what/where is dist?

When changing: Properties for testFramework -> WOLips Development - 
> Build Style -> from Ant to Incremental


things seemed to work better.

However, this always used to be set to "Ant" so that the  
testFramework would always be installed automatically after every  
change. Does this not work anymore in WOLips 3.4?


Is that build.xml something that you wrote or modified, or what  
WOLips creates for a new project?


Chuck



On 31-Jan-09, at 9:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


In the Run Configuration -> Launch Arguments, "other" has been  
defaulted with:


${working_dir_loc_WOLips:testApp}

Yes, we are using the old-fashioned WO/NEXT Framework layout, but  
without the version links.


I mean the project layout.  If you are not using the layout that  
is set when a new project is created, then WOLips will not just  
work.  As they say in the glass store, if you break it, you get to  
keep the pieces.  Are the projects getting built under dist/ ?




With command line launching, the value is being set correctly to  
something like:
file:/Library/Frameworks/testFramework.framework/Resources/ 
TestSubDirectory/TestFile


but not the WOLips launcher...


I suspect something odd in your application project.


Chuck




On 31-Jan-09, at 8:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Chuck et al,

We also noticed that:

resourceManager.pathURLForResourceNamed(FILE_REF,  
"testFramework" , null)


within testFramework does not work anymore when running testApp  
from WOLips; it returns now null.

In 3.3, it used to work and in deployment mode it also works.

Please help.



It sounds like your launch config is wrong.  Are you using the   
Fluffy Bunny Layout exactly, or making modifications to it?   
What is the working directory configured to be in the launcher?


Chuck



On 31-Jan-09, at 7:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


Try creating a new launch config in Eclipse.

Chuck

On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

When running from Eclipse, the test app has trouble locating  
classes within the test framework.
However, when running in deployed mode, from the command  
line, everything seems to be fine.


Checks:

The framework has been correctly included in Project  
Properties -> Jave Build Path -> Libraries
The framework has been correctly included in Project  
Properties -> Project References

The framework is listed in ".classpath"

Please explain - it used to work fine in Eclipse/WOLips 3.3.

Thanks.


com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException  
[java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or  
component named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable  
bundle 
:Error parsing template for Component : 'file:/Users/dennis/ 
Documents/workspace/TESTApp/build/TESTApp.woa/Contents/ 
Resources/Main.wo':
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or  
component named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable  
bundle


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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Re: More Eclipse Upgrading Pains: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Chuck,

Everything stock.

But what/where is dist?

When changing: Properties for testFramework -> WOLips Development ->  
Build Style -> from Ant to Incremental


things seemed to work better.

However, this always used to be set to "Ant" so that the testFramework  
would always be installed automatically after every change. Does this  
not work anymore in WOLips 3.4?


Thanks,

Dennis.


On 31-Jan-09, at 9:04 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:23 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


In the Run Configuration -> Launch Arguments, "other" has been  
defaulted with:


${working_dir_loc_WOLips:testApp}

Yes, we are using the old-fashioned WO/NEXT Framework layout, but  
without the version links.


I mean the project layout.  If you are not using the layout that is  
set when a new project is created, then WOLips will not just work.   
As they say in the glass store, if you break it, you get to keep the  
pieces.  Are the projects getting built under dist/ ?




With command line launching, the value is being set correctly to  
something like:
file:/Library/Frameworks/testFramework.framework/Resources/ 
TestSubDirectory/TestFile


but not the WOLips launcher...


I suspect something odd in your application project.


Chuck




On 31-Jan-09, at 8:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Chuck et al,

We also noticed that:

resourceManager.pathURLForResourceNamed(FILE_REF,  
"testFramework" , null)


within testFramework does not work anymore when running testApp  
from WOLips; it returns now null.

In 3.3, it used to work and in deployment mode it also works.

Please help.



It sounds like your launch config is wrong.  Are you using the   
Fluffy Bunny Layout exactly, or making modifications to it?  What  
is the working directory configured to be in the launcher?


Chuck



On 31-Jan-09, at 7:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


Try creating a new launch config in Eclipse.

Chuck

On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

When running from Eclipse, the test app has trouble locating  
classes within the test framework.
However, when running in deployed mode, from the command line,  
everything seems to be fine.


Checks:

The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties  
-> Jave Build Path -> Libraries
The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties  
-> Project References

The framework is listed in ".classpath"

Please explain - it used to work fine in Eclipse/WOLips 3.3.

Thanks.


com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException  
[java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or  
component named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable  
bundle 
:Error parsing template for Component : 'file:/Users/dennis/ 
Documents/workspace/TESTApp/build/TESTApp.woa/Contents/ 
Resources/Main.wo':
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or  
component named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable bundle


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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Re: More Eclipse Upgrading Pains: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Chuck,


In the Run Configuration -> Launch Arguments, "other" has been  
defaulted with:


${working_dir_loc_WOLips:testApp}

Yes, we are using the old-fashioned WO/NEXT Framework layout, but  
without the version links.


With command line launching, the value is being set correctly to  
something like:
file:/Library/Frameworks/testFramework.framework/Resources/ 
TestSubDirectory/TestFile


but not the WOLips launcher...

Dennis.

On 31-Jan-09, at 8:09 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:



On Jan 31, 2009, at 8:06 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Hi Chuck et al,

We also noticed that:

resourceManager.pathURLForResourceNamed(FILE_REF, "testFramework" ,  
null)


within testFramework does not work anymore when running testApp  
from WOLips; it returns now null.

In 3.3, it used to work and in deployment mode it also works.

Please help.



It sounds like your launch config is wrong.  Are you using the   
Fluffy Bunny Layout exactly, or making modifications to it?  What is  
the working directory configured to be in the launcher?


Chuck



On 31-Jan-09, at 7:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


Try creating a new launch config in Eclipse.

Chuck

On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

When running from Eclipse, the test app has trouble locating  
classes within the test framework.
However, when running in deployed mode, from the command line,  
everything seems to be fine.


Checks:

The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties - 
> Jave Build Path -> Libraries
The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties - 
> Project References

The framework is listed in ".classpath"

Please explain - it used to work fine in Eclipse/WOLips 3.3.

Thanks.


com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException  
[java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or component  
named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable  
bundle:Error parsing template for Component : 'file:/Users/dennis/ 
Documents/workspace/TESTApp/build/TESTApp.woa/Contents/Resources/ 
Main.wo':
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or component  
named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable bundle


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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Re: More Eclipse Upgrading Pains: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

[Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists]

Hi Chuck et al,

We also noticed that:

resourceManager.pathURLForResourceNamed(FILE_REF, "testFramework" ,  
null)


within testFramework does not work anymore when running testApp from  
WOLips; it returns now null.

In 3.3, it used to work and in deployment mode it also works.

Please help.

With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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On 31-Jan-09, at 7:00 PM, Chuck Hill wrote:


Try creating a new launch config in Eclipse.

Chuck

On Jan 30, 2009, at 4:17 PM, Gaastra Dennis - WO Lists wrote:


Dear List,

When running from Eclipse, the test app has trouble locating  
classes within the test framework.
However, when running in deployed mode, from the command line,  
everything seems to be fine.


Checks:

The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties ->  
Jave Build Path -> Libraries
The framework has been correctly included in Project Properties ->  
Project References

The framework is listed in ".classpath"

Please explain - it used to work fine in Eclipse/WOLips 3.3.

Thanks.


com.webobjects.foundation.NSForwardException  
[java.lang.ClassNotFoundException] Cannot find class or component  
named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable  
bundle:Error parsing template for Component : 'file:/Users/dennis/ 
Documents/workspace/TESTApp/build/TESTApp.woa/Contents/Resources/ 
Main.wo':
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: Cannot find class or component  
named TESTHyperlink in runtime or in a loadable bundle


With Kind Regards,

Dennis Gaastra,
Chief Technology Officer,
WEBAPPZ Systems, Inc.


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