Re: Installing Tools and Framework is a mess
Hi...turnkey installer guy here... Did this for a while...got tired of competing with WOClipse, Manual installs, etc...felt it was confusing newcomers to have multiple installation methods. When you are new, you don't know which one is best, and I felt it was not helping the platform. That being said, creating a turnkey installer isn't hard. It just takes time. If someone wants to take up the chalice let me know. We'll toss it up on github. But, keep in mind that some of the bonuses of the turnkey installer cannot be included, such as frontbase, due to the agreement between Frontbase, myself, and another developer, whoc shall remain nameless. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Tomcat 6/7 book?
Hey guys, I'm looking for two good books - one on tomcat 6, one on tomcat 7. Any recommendations? I see wrox, apress, and a few others... Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Wwdc
Missed buying our tickets this year...if anyone changes plans and needs to sell their ticket, please let me know. Thanks, J Sent from my iPad ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Windows hiding themselves in the background
Unless there are any objections or other thoughts, I'm killing the publicly-available Turnkey Installer. I keep receiving messages/questions about using turnkey VS eclipse native VS goclipse...and I really think having multiple options will do more harm than good - and will ultimately confuse new users with too many choices (hence the emails I keep getting...). Without a clear path and guidance, I believe it will only degrade the overall experience for new users. There is a valid 10.6-happy installer...if people still want it it can be released, but I don't think its wise to advertise it at this point. I will still be lurking...there are some other things we've wanted to do to help the group... Thanks, jeremy On Nov 17, 2010, at 3:49 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: So, we are using Eclipse 3.6 for some projects, and we installed it with Golipse. One of the workspace mechanics set that perspectives are opened in new windows. This is quite cool! Only problem: the new window always open behind the main window! For example, if I do a Team - Synchronize, the Team Synchronizing perspective open behind the main window (who have the WOLips perspective). Same thing for Entity Modeler. Are we the only ones who are getting this behavior? -- Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca AIM/iChat : MacTICanada LinkedIn : http://www.linkedin.com/in/macti Twitter : pascal_robert smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Turnkey Installer
Unless there are any objections or other thoughts, I'm killing the publicly-available Turnkey Installer. I keep receiving messages/questions about using turnkey VS eclipse native VS goclipse...and I really think having multiple options will do more harm than good - and will ultimately confuse new users with too many choices (hence the emails I keep getting...). Without a clear path and guidance, I believe it will only degrade the overall experience for new users. There is a valid 10.6-happy installer...if people still want it it can be released, but I don't think its wise to advertise it at this point. I will still be lurking...there are some other things we've wanted to do to help the group... Thanks, jeremy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: [OT] No more XServe
Apple has repeatedly stated that they are not an enterprise company...not really surprised here. smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse on github
ugh...fragmentation On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Now we just have to find what's the best way to install WO... woinstaller.jar? The .pkg? Praying? Thank you David. It's great to have a simple installer for a couple of new folks I'm about to start training on WO. -G On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:00 AM, David LeBer wrote: For anyone who cares: http://github.com/rebeld/Golipse ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile:http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter:http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/george%40boxofficetickets.com This email sent to geo...@boxofficetickets.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse on github
So I take it you have an android phone ;) On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:23 AM, David LeBer wrote: On 2010-10-14, at 9:17 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: ugh...fragmentation Yum, variety ;-) On Oct 14, 2010, at 9:05 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Now we just have to find what's the best way to install WO... woinstaller.jar? The .pkg? Praying? Thank you David. It's great to have a simple installer for a couple of new folks I'm about to start training on WO. -G On Oct 11, 2010, at 11:00 AM, David LeBer wrote: For anyone who cares: http://github.com/rebeld/Golipse ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/george%40boxofficetickets.com This email sent to geo...@boxofficetickets.com ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Golipse.app
Ah - cool. There are some things I like about this, and somethings which I would consider changing (IMHO). Pros - Always Up-to-date (which is really, mostly, always)...much nicer than have a script on a server continuously generate packages - Simplicity (big for me) Cons - Need to be online during installation (some folks download packages and then run, or are not constantly connected) - Not a typical installation package (which, as an IT guy, drives me just a little crazy) - No continuous feedback (though probably easily solved if using cocoa API's like NSURL), like with a simple progress bar Questions - Is connectivity checked before attempting the download? - Is the download file md5 hash checked before download? - Are there alternate links in case the primary download URLs fail? - Is there a Cancel button? - Are we using API's such as NSURL, or running NSTask? In the past, I create packages (using packagemaker) which contained a new feature (Package References) - so the package would download components remotely during the install process. We found this confused the users and frustrated support staff. I thought it was cool, and basically the future...since we're rapidly heading to a space where everything is connected, always. I suppose we're not quite there yet since every client and business, save a few enterprise groups, that told me to change it back). I'm really interested in what everyone else thinks hereshould we shelve the turnkey in favor of something like this? Not wanting to devote time to spend on yet another installation solution...we already have a few now, and I think we need to choose one (maybe two) which will be the future newbie installerneed to get rid of the confusion there. Thanks, jeremy On Oct 9, 2010, at 10:55 PM, David LeBer wrote: Based on Mike's wolips install script: http://gist.github.com/610081 I whipped up a thin cocoa wrapper for the command line challenged in our ranks. Demo here: https://files.me.com/dav1d/wxajka.mov Let me know if you are interested in testing it. ;david -- David LeBer Codeferous Software 'co-def-er-ous' adj. Literally 'code-bearing' site: http://codeferous.com blog: http://davidleber.net profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidleber twitter: http://twitter.com/rebeld -- Toronto Area Cocoa / WebObjects developers group: http://tacow.org smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
Well, quite frankly I don't care for kittens. Allergic, in fact. :) On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:18 AM, Mike Schrag wrote: Doesn't mean we need to be complicit in their terrible life decisions. And, I would wager that developers would be tend to be more discerning with respect to permissions. I think this is officially a religious argument at this point. I nominate that Jeremy just does whatever makes him feel good with the knowledge that I'll kill a kitten if he puts it in /Applications. Should we switch over to debating optimal code formatter preferences and curly brace placement? ms On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:12 AM, David Avendasora wrote: How do 99% of all Mac users run? I'm guessing as admin users (there's a little evil in all of us). Sent from my iPad On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:03 AM, Mike Schrag msch...@pobox.com wrote: That's because you either made it world-writable or you run as an admin user, either of which is kind of evil. ms On Oct 7, 2010, at 10:53 AM, John Huss wrote: I have put eclipse into /Applications forever and I've never had a single problem with permissions. I think that is a non-issue. John On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 9:48 AM, Kieran Kelleher kelleh...@gmail.com wrote: David, I disagree with you and Timo, and I agree with Mike and others. ;-) In summary 2 good reasons for installing in ~/Applications, considering that novice/intermediate users are the ones we are trying to make life easy for. 1) Writeable Eclipse dir ... keep writeable in user dir. Prevent permission issues that 'stump' newbies into giving up too early. 2) Painless migrations to new machines -Kieran On Oct 7, 2010, at 7:54 AM, David Avendasora wrote: I'm pretty against ~/Applications. Nothing installs there by default. Why would we make an installer that's targeted at getting new users up and running install in a place other than the normal /Applications? Sure ~/Applications is _better_ but it's not _normal_. If they're advanced enough to want it in ~/Applications then they can move it. Dave On Oct 6, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: I had no idea what I was getting myself intoheh. This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet. -j On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my home directory instead. If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home directory I would have no reason to keep it there also. welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history ms ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/webobjects%40avendasora.com This email sent to webobje...@avendasora.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
That's the more secure way... So...I've managed a few macs in my day, and created custom imageslots of IT work. Generally speaking, you don't let business users run as admins. Not that they CANT do admin things (with an admin account ID and password), just that they're not an admin off the bat. More secure. Slightly more work. For SOHO's or individualswell, different story. Some of those folks don't understand why there is a need for a second accountor what this mysterious thing called root is...so its less stress just to tell them to be careful and not do silly things (which sometimes works). -j On Oct 7, 2010, at 12:03 PM, Paul D Yu wrote: Just for my education, now. So when I setup my clean machine from Apple, I should not use the default user and be create a separate user? not not give the new user admin rights? Paul On Oct 7, 2010, at 11:50 AM, John Huss wrote: 3) Thou shalt not run as an admin user smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
TurnKey Installer
So...before I go tromping about and creating a half-dozen different installers (or writing some dependencies scripts)let me ask a question: 1) Eclipse comes in 3 flavors (3.6.1) - Carbon, Cocoa, and Cocoa/x86_64. Are we all pretty much working in Cocoa/x86_64 land nowadays? Is there a reason to have a carbon-based, turnkey installer (or cocoa-32)? Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
TurnKey Installer Components
So...from the old installer fileshere is a list of what was installed in the past (some components optional) 1) Eclipse (whatever) 2) WOLips (stable) 3) EOGenerator Templates (I believe these are no longer needed by anyone???) 4) Launchd scripts for wotaskd and womonitor 5) Wonder Frameworks (latest stable) 6) Wonder Framework Jars (latest stable) 7) Wonder API Docs 8) Wonder RuleModeler 9) Frontbase (current + mgt apps) Anything we should add/remove? What should be optional (Wonder?) vs preselected (Eclipse, WOLips, etc)? Thanks, j smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
And what is the consensus on the location for Eclipse? Last thread made me feel like we're leaning towards /Applications... /Applications /Developer other? Thanks, jeremy On Oct 6, 2010, at 3:43 PM, John Huss wrote: And the mod_WebObjects adaptor compiled for snow leopard. John On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 2:23 PM, Pascal Robert prob...@macti.ca wrote: Le 2010-10-06 à 15:17, Jeremy Matthews a écrit : So...from the old installer fileshere is a list of what was installed in the past (some components optional) 1) Eclipse (whatever) 2) WOLips (stable) 3) EOGenerator Templates (I believe these are no longer needed by anyone???) 4) Launchd scripts for wotaskd and womonitor 5) Wonder Frameworks (latest stable) 6) Wonder Framework Jars (latest stable) 7) Wonder API Docs 8) Wonder RuleModeler 9) Frontbase (current + mgt apps) If FrontBase was only for the WOWODC demos, I would remove it. I would add Wonder versions of wotaskd and JavaMonitor, and that the launch scripts start those versions instead of the Apple one. Anything we should add/remove? What should be optional (Wonder?) vs preselected (Eclipse, WOLips, etc)? Preselected : Eclipse, WOLips, wotaskd, Wonder frameworks and JavaDoc, and the launch script for wotaskd. ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/johnthuss%40gmail.com This email sent to johnth...@gmail.com smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: TurnKey Installer Components
I had no idea what I was getting myself intoheh. This is for newbies...generally speaking, so we'll do ~/Applications...maybe offer a choice...dunno yet. -j On Oct 6, 2010, at 8:57 PM, Mike Schrag wrote: I was the same until recently when I switched to a new machine and forgot to copy over eclipse for the umteen'th time. So I moved it to my home directory instead. If eclipse kept it's plugins and other global config in my home directory I would have no reason to keep it there also. welcome to one of the longest-standing debates in eclipse history ms smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Does Apple stop to use WebObjects for its internal tools?
Since I'm in and out of the WO world, I can say that it was hardest for me to get updated documentation, sample code, examples, podcasts, etc. News and information appears sporadic and sparse...and not just on WO, but with the rest of the stuff WO devs use (Wonder, Eclipse config, etc). The folks on this list are fantastic, but I don't view them as my personal resource for every single WO question out there, and the ones I had (or have) tend to be the same ones that those before me had as well. The community is small...GREAT, but small. So when I have a tough question (which happens), it seems like the same few folks are answering. It makes me leery for the future - if Chuck and Kieran get hit by a bus, I would be going to the nearest bar and running a very large tab! Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: All In One Installer broken
Tim, - Sounds as if the text needs to be changed - tell me where it sounds like I am on permanent sabbatical. - When everyone decides on the future of the WO web portals, I'll happily comply where I can to the group mentality. - That being said, there ARE parts (maybe just one part...have to recheck) of the installer which cannot be shared with the group - I will ask the party responsible since we had an agreement on not sharing information related to those components. Let's just say it was a very nice benefit of the installer. Yeah. - So...if I made everything public then we'd have to consider forking the package...I'll have to see what can be done there. I'm still considering the future of the installer, and how it would ideally work given the multiple versions that have been requested. Otherwise, say hello to half-a-dozen jumbled installers. Not me fav idea. - What this boils down to - when I ask for feedback, I'm serious there. I get little to no information except when things don't work. There should be a wish list somewhere...somehow. Then I could focus on priority features. Thanks, jeremy On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Tim Worman wrote: +1 Jeremy: I'm just a guy reading messages and I took it as true that you may not be maintaining the installer anymore. Obviously, you're completely capable of keeping the installer working and it benefits the community if you do. A bullet proof all-in-one installer is really beneficial. I don't think anyone meant anything as an indictment of your work. I do think the organizational observations are good ones - making everything downloadable directly from the wiki or some other central site. I like Kieran's idea of putting the code for (whatever) installers under version control for community contribution - might even help keep it versioned for different OS X versions. Tim Worman UCLA GSEIS On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Joe Little wrote: Let me apologize for the group, and hope you stay with us a little longer. We all tend to use the mailing list as the official conduit of communications and forget that direct email may be preferred when reporting a problem for some. Worse yet, bringing up such issues over a weekend can be a recipe for more disastrous fun. The only bit I agree on is making it even more obvious to new users whatever the group preffered methods are. Anything to limit confusion is _usually_ best. On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Matthews jeremymatth...@mac.com wrote: Clearly broken, eh? I suppose after seeing more than a dozen messages no one thought of actually talking to me? Sigh...so many assumptions, so little meaningful conversation I'm not sure what the issue is, since we test it routinely, and this is the first time we've heard in MONTHS that there was a problem. And now there's talk of abandoning it entirely - within an hour. Nice. So, seems everyone wants to talk AROUND me and not TO me, let me make a few things clear: 1) I regularly test and maintain the installer. 2) Whenever we hear there is an issue we FIX it. Usually pretty damn fast. Ask around. 3) I do not build WO Apps _ROUTINTELY_ anymore - this does not mean I care less about the tools or the installer, or the great people in the community. I still develop too, I just don't advertise it. Usually the opposite since there are tons of talented people here. That being said, if someone wants to take the installer over, fine by me. I've had fun working with some really cool people, and being able to create something a lot of people thanked me for. I've been fortunate to work with this great community, and am sincerely thankful for that. But...if people will not communicate with me, then there is nothing I can do (to help this community). I wish everyone the absolute best of luck. So long, and thanks for all the fish! -jeremy P.S. - There have a been more than a few people along the way who said they owed me a beer. If I see you at WWDC, I'll be collecting those! # I was setting up a new SL dev environment, and just to see what the initial installation and setup procedure would be like for a complete newbie on SL, I looked on the wiki for instructions for the simplest possible path to new installation on a virgin Snow Leopard. It seems that really, a newbie would probably be confused and would probably struggle. :-( After installing WebObjects 5.4.3 using Apple's dmg installer and then installing the All In One Eclipse/WOLips installer from Jeremy's .mac page (since the sisu download was slow as molasses with an est time of 1 day+!), I then hit a roadblock, getting an error when launching Eclipse after running Jeremy's installer. An Error has occurred See the log file ~/.eclipse/./blahblah.log That error log file is full of missing required bundle messages. Anyway, just FYI, I don't have time for troubleshooting
Re: All In One Installer broken
Tim, OK - didn't mean the sabbatical thing explicitly So...for EVERYONE. If you feel like it, tell me where my announcements need to be edited...so as to not make anyone think I live in a black hole. Standard Text: -- Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.XXX), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3. (Ganymede) WOLips 3. (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this XXX about XXX AM/PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy --- No offense takenI think at some point we'll all meet and a lot of beers will go around. -j On Dec 7, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Tim Worman wrote: Jeremy: I hope you can understand - I never said you were on permanent sabbatical and I did not go back, search, and forage through the list to confirm what was being said. Maybe some would do that, and maybe some would even catch every message you post. I didn't. I cannot tell you where it sounds like anything, and I don't have time to look. I haven't used the installer but I am interested in seeing it be as easy as possible for new users to dive into WO. I think your installer can probably help with that. Again, I'm sorry if something I said really offended you. Tim Worman UCLA GSEIS On Dec 7, 2009, at 1:55 PM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Tim, - Sounds as if the text needs to be changed - tell me where it sounds like I am on permanent sabbatical. - When everyone decides on the future of the WO web portals, I'll happily comply where I can to the group mentality. - That being said, there ARE parts (maybe just one part...have to recheck) of the installer which cannot be shared with the group - I will ask the party responsible since we had an agreement on not sharing information related to those components. Let's just say it was a very nice benefit of the installer. Yeah. - So...if I made everything public then we'd have to consider forking the package...I'll have to see what can be done there. I'm still considering the future of the installer, and how it would ideally work given the multiple versions that have been requested. Otherwise, say hello to half-a-dozen jumbled installers. Not me fav idea. - What this boils down to - when I ask for feedback, I'm serious there. I get little to no information except when things don't work. There should be a wish list somewhere...somehow. Then I could focus on priority features. Thanks, jeremy On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Tim Worman wrote: +1 Jeremy: I'm just a guy reading messages and I took it as true that you may not be maintaining the installer anymore. Obviously, you're completely capable of keeping the installer working and it benefits the community if you do. A bullet proof all-in-one installer is really beneficial. I don't think anyone meant anything as an indictment of your work. I do think the organizational observations are good ones - making everything downloadable directly from the wiki or some other central site. I like Kieran's idea of putting the code for (whatever) installers under version control for community contribution - might even help keep it versioned for different OS X versions. Tim Worman UCLA GSEIS On Dec 6, 2009, at 2:36 PM, Joe Little wrote: Let me apologize for the group, and hope you stay with us a little longer. We all tend to use the mailing list as the official conduit of communications and forget that direct email may be preferred when reporting a problem for some. Worse yet, bringing up such issues over a weekend can be a recipe for more disastrous fun. The only bit I agree on is making it even more obvious to new users whatever the group preffered methods are. Anything to limit confusion is _usually_ best. On Dec 6, 2009, at 12:20 PM, Jeremy Matthews jeremymatth...@mac.com wrote: Clearly broken, eh? I suppose after seeing more than a dozen messages no one thought of actually talking to me? Sigh...so many assumptions, so little meaningful conversation I'm not sure what the issue is, since we test it routinely, and this is the first time we've heard in MONTHS
Re: All In One Installer broken
Clearly broken, eh? I suppose after seeing more than a dozen messages no one thought of actually talking to me? Sigh...so many assumptions, so little meaningful conversation I'm not sure what the issue is, since we test it routinely, and this is the first time we've heard in MONTHS that there was a problem. And now there's talk of abandoning it entirely - within an hour. Nice. So, seems everyone wants to talk AROUND me and not TO me, let me make a few things clear: 1) I regularly test and maintain the installer. 2) Whenever we hear there is an issue we FIX it. Usually pretty damn fast. Ask around. 3) I do not build WO Apps _ROUTINTELY_ anymore - this does not mean I care less about the tools or the installer, or the great people in the community. I still develop too, I just don't advertise it. Usually the opposite since there are tons of talented people here. That being said, if someone wants to take the installer over, fine by me. I've had fun working with some really cool people, and being able to create something a lot of people thanked me for. I've been fortunate to work with this great community, and am sincerely thankful for that. But...if people will not communicate with me, then there is nothing I can do (to help this community). I wish everyone the absolute best of luck. So long, and thanks for all the fish! -jeremy P.S. - There have a been more than a few people along the way who said they owed me a beer. If I see you at WWDC, I'll be collecting those! # I was setting up a new SL dev environment, and just to see what the initial installation and setup procedure would be like for a complete newbie on SL, I looked on the wiki for instructions for the simplest possible path to new installation on a virgin Snow Leopard. It seems that really, a newbie would probably be confused and would probably struggle. :-( After installing WebObjects 5.4.3 using Apple's dmg installer and then installing the All In One Eclipse/WOLips installer from Jeremy's .mac page (since the sisu download was slow as molasses with an est time of 1 day+!), I then hit a roadblock, getting an error when launching Eclipse after running Jeremy's installer. An Error has occurred See the log file ~/.eclipse/./blahblah.log That error log file is full of missing required bundle messages. Anyway, just FYI, I don't have time for troubleshooting this now I am doing my usual 3.4.2 download and install/setup the manual way. Since Jeremy is not working in WO anymore and this is AIO (All In One) installer is clearly broken for install on a virgin OS X Snow Leopard box, we might want to just discontinue the all-in-one installer and just go write a concise WebObjects Developer Quick Start Guide for newbies ...so I started a wiki page on this and will work on completing it as I get time. Any thoughts on that? Should I wipe all references on the wiki to the AIO? If we are ever going to get new devs to come to WebObjects, we need to have a working quick start. Any dev worth his salt should be comfortable on the command line, so maybe a bash install script that downloads and installs various bits and configures everything might be the better route. Any opinions on that? BTW, I went to use the WOInstaller.jar initially and thinking that a newbie would want standard install paths, I set the WOInstaller.jar target as /, but got an error saying System directory already exists. Should the WOInstaller.jar's CPIO class be changed to just overwrite existing files? Does that overlay directory paths (aka merge eith existing files if named differently, or does it realyl replace existing directories (ie., wiping them out)? Anyway, this is just some meandering thoughts / discussion before I leave off the How would a newbie WO dev fare on getting started for now and go do some work. Regards, Kieran ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard and WebObjects
Soshould I just crank out another packaged installed that does this stuff? -jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard and WebObjects
OKso this would include downloading/installing the 5.4.3 patch, config of the wonder apache config file, and the javamonitor/wotaskd launch items, right? Anything else? -j On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 18/11/2009, at 1:20 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Soshould I just crank out another packaged installed that does this stuff? Sounds like it would be generally useful for those who use the installer. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Snow Leopard and WebObjects
So, there is a turnkey installer for development (which just happens to include the launchd items, some optional frontbase stuff, wolips + eclipse, wonder stuff). But...there isn't a thing for deployment...was working on it a while ago and dropped it since it sounded like someone else was going to run with it. So, whenever I hear the same questions on the list over and over, especially those which require multiple steps...its usually time to give the group a faster way of doing so. Hence, the idea of a deployment installation package. - WO - launchd for wotaskd+ javamonitor - wonder's apache config I can probably put that together in a few days and start testing...in fact the only component I do not have already in my own package is the wonder config file That being said, I won't spend time on it if nobody will use it. -j On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:21 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 18/11/2009, at 8:37 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: OKso this would include downloading/installing the 5.4.3 patch, config of the wonder apache config file, and the javamonitor/wotaskd launch items, right? Anything else? What did the installer do on Leopard? I don't personally have any of that installed (no frameworks, no monitor/wotaskd/adaptor) on SL[1] so whatever is needed to make things work after install is the 'anything else' you're looking for :-). I wonder if it's worth aiming at downloading/installing fully-embedded wotaskd/monitor? [1] I'm using modproxy instead, with each app on a specific port for development the apache setup is quite easy. No wotask/adaptor/monitor here. On Nov 17, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Lachlan Deck wrote: On 18/11/2009, at 1:20 AM, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Soshould I just crank out another packaged installed that does this stuff? Sounds like it would be generally useful for those who use the installer. with regards, -- Lachlan Deck with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update - Now Working with 10.5.8 and 10.6.1
FYI - the new package has been successfully tested on both 10.5.8 and 10.6.1 systems. Please report any additional Issues. ### Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Additionally, _only_ the core items are now installed by default. You will have to customize your installation to get the Wonder/FrontBase items. DO NOT SELECT THE MANIFEST ITEM, OR THE INSTALL WILL FAIL (working on that one). Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5830), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5830 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 4:00 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update
FYI - we added some fixes, so hopefully the installer works as intended on 10.5.8 and 10.6.1please send feedback. ### Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5830), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5830 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this last night about 9:00 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: nstalling fresh WOLips+Eclipse on 10.6 failing
The Stable Installer has not been tested with 10.6 yet...working on it.
-jeremy
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 09:13:24 -0700
From: Baiss Eric Magnusson bmagnus...@comcast.net
Subject: Installing fresh WOLips+Eclipse on 10.6 failing
To: WebObjectsDev webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com
Message-ID: 77f07711-af57-409a-97b7-0016e3b80...@comcast.net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed;
delsp=yes
From: Mike Schrag msch...@mdimension.com
Subject: Re: 10.6 Eclipse debug launch, org.eclipse.nab.mwt throws
etc.
org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Exception in
org.eclipse.nab.mwt.ab.core.CorePlugin.start() of bundle
org.eclipse.nab.mwt.
at
org
.eclipse
.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator
(BundleContextImpl.java:1028)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/widestudio/mwt/
MwtInitializer at org.eclipse.nab.mwt.ab.core.CorePlugin.start
(CorePlugin.java:70)
looks to me like you've installed some third party plugin that
requires a native component that you don't have (based on the linking
problem later on). i would start from a fresh install and just install
the plugins you need for wolips.
Both the uninstaller and the installer fail.
A newly downloaded Eclipse+WOLips installer also failed after I
manually cleared out everything relating to Eclipse.
installd[2175]: *** NSTask: Task create for path '/tmp/
PKInstallSandbox.5KfAu7/Scripts/
com
.sisuworks
.wolips.uninstaller.wolipseclipseUninstaller.builduninstaller.pkg.wB1FPK
/postinstall' failed: 22, Invalid argument. Terminating temporary
process.
com.apple.ReportCrash.Root[2176]: 2009-09-03 18:43:08.903 ReportCrash
[2176:2a03] Saved crash report for installd[2175] version ??? (???)
to /Library/Logs/DiagnosticReports/
installd_2009-09-03-184308_localhost.crash
Installer[2166]: The Installer encountered an error that caused the
installation to fail. Contact the software manufacturer for assistance.
installd[2174]: Exiting.
Application Specific Information:
*** NSTask: Task create for path '/tmp/PKInstallSandbox.5KfAu7/Scripts/
com
.sisuworks
.wolips.uninstaller.wolipseclipseUninstaller.builduninstaller.pkg.wB1FPK
/postinstall' failed: 22, Invalid argument. Terminating temporary
process.
installd[2213]: PackageKit: - Begin install -
installd[2213]: PackageKit: Install Failed: PKG: extracting
com.sisuworks.wolips.eclipse.manifest.pkg\nError
Domain=PKInstallErrorDomain Code=110
UserInfo=0x1028c0f90 An error occurred while extracting files from
the package Eclipse+WOLips.pkg. Underlying Error=(Error
Domain=BOMCopierFatalError Code=0
UserInfo=0x1028bcd40 The operation couldnt be completed. cpio read
error: Unknown error: 0) {\n
NSFilePath = /var/folders/zz/zzzivhrRnAmviuee+++/-Tmp-/
PKInstallSandbox-tmp/Root/Developer/Applications/eclipse/configuration/
org.eclipse.osgi/manifests;\n
NSLocalizedDescription = An error occurred while extracting files
from the package \U201cEclipse+WOLips.pkg\U201d.;\n
NSURL = #manifest.pkg --
file://localhost/Users/baiss/Downloads/Eclipse%2BWOLips/Eclipse%2BWOLips.pkg
;\n
NSUnderlyingError = Error Domain=BOMCopierFatalError Code=0
UserInfo=0x1028bcd40 \The operation couldn\U2019t be completed. cpio
read error: Unknown error: 0\;\n
PKInstallPackageIdentifier =
com.sisuworks.wolips.eclipse.manifest.pkg;\n}
Installer[2206]: Install failed: The Installer encountered an error
that caused the installation to fail. Contact the software
manufacturer for assistance.
Installer[2206]: Displaying 'Install Failed' UI.
Installer[2206]: 'Install Failed' UI displayed message:'The Installer
encountered an error that caused the installation to fail. Contact the
software manufacturer for assistance.'.
Baiss Eric Magnusson
http://www.CascadeWebDesign.com
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Stable Installer Update
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5924), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5924 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this last night about 9:00 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5744), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this morning about 9:00 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5744)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5744), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this morning about 9:00 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5744)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5744), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5744 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this evening about 10:22 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5713)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Note: The ~/Library/Application Support/WOLips/wolips.properties file will be automatically generated during the installation process (last item); if the file already exists it will not be overwritten. YOU WILL RECEIVE AN ERROR ABOUT A POSTSCRIPT INSTALLATION FAILURE - IGNORE IT! (We are working on migrating this...) Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5713), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5713 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd Automatic wolips.properties file generation All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 9:22 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Mac Turnkey Eclipse+WOLips Installer
Please submit any requests for changes to the installerwe're in the process of reviewing its structure. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5693)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Note: The ~/Library/Application Support/WOLips/wolips.properties file will be automatically generated during the installation process (last item); if the file already exists it will not be overwritten. YOU WILL RECEIVE AN ERROR ABOUT A POSTSCRIPT INSTALLATION FAILURE - IGNORE IT! Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5693), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4.2 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5693 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd Automatic wolips.properties file generation All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 10 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
wolips.properties file
Since this is a recurring issue, we're going to fix it in the standalone mac installer. The updated standalone, mac turnkey installer (due early next week) will automatically generate this file, so we can put this problem behind us. If you have any concerns, please let me know. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5680)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Question: Is there any interest in a nightly build of this installer? Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5680), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5680 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 8 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5673)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Note2: The bug whereas Eclipse was not being installed correctly should now be resolved. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5673), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5673 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 2 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
turnkey installer
...is offline for a few days; when the mdimension server is back up it will be as normal. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5668)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5668), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5668 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 12 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5667)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5667), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5667 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 2 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5661)
Note: Updates to the turnkey installer are happening much more frequently now as our semi-automated build system is in place. Updates are not set on a predetermined basis, but will be released according to frequency of core wolips updates. Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5661), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5661 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this afternoon about 2 PM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Stable Installer Update (5650)
Along with the new stable version of WOLips (3.4.5650), a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5650 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this morning about 11 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
New Stable Installer
Along with the new stable version of WOLips, a new mac turnkey installer is available (Leopard required), and consists of the following items: Eclipse 3.4 (Ganymede) WOLips 3.4.5645 (new stable) EOGenerator Templates Standalone Entity Modeler Wonder Frameworks, JAR Frameworks, Docs, RuleModeler FrontBase Database, Management Applications, Startup Item, JDBC Extension, and EOMBundle Launchd Scripts for JavaMonitor + wotaskd All items are the latest release, as of this morning about 11 AM More links: http://idisk.mac.com/jeremymatthews-Public/Eclipse+WOLips.zip?disposition=download+6674 Redundant link: http://sisuworks.com/files/Eclipse+WOLips.zip Since I no longer develop in WO on a routine basis, it'd be great if I got feedback on bugs or potential improvements. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: Wonder tutorial, part 1
I think the issue probably is that the new installer is ready, which includes the necessary revisions of wolips/eclipse/wonder for the 5.4 branch stuff...but not yet posted. I'll ask Mike and post the updated version later if that is the case... Thanks, jeremy With some time off I've decided to get my feet wet with WO. I'm as new to WO and Java as it gets. :-) I started with the All-In-One installer from: http://wiki.objectstyle.org/confluence/display/WOL/Installing +WOLips Half way through the WebObjects, WOLips and Wonder tutorial, part 1 I'm getting the following error: java.lang.RuntimeException: computeQueryDictionaryInContext failed. ERXWOForm.java 228 _appendHiddenFieldsToResponse er.extensions ERXWOForm.java 256 appendChildrenToResponse er.extensions ERXWOForm.java 396 appendToResponse er.extensions ... After Googling around a bit it seems I need to install Wonder 5.4. I found Wonder 5.4 Frameworks and Wonder 5.4 Applications at http://webobjects.mdimension.com/wonder/. If I copy Wonder 5.4 Frameworks to /Library/Frameworks I get tons of errors throughout my project. Instead if I copy Wonder 5.4 Applications to /Library/Frameworks the original error persists. I've rolled back to WOLips 3.3.5594, and Eclipse 3.3.2. And I'm back to the original error. Any ideas? Thank you, Sanford ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
stable
Has the new rev of WOLips been deemed stable? I've been out of the office...lots of folks seemed to have moved - like to get the installer into the public if that is the case. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
Re: WOLips Installer
+1 ... Most folks using the installers are either new or inexperienced...or lazy, like me, and want things to more or less just work. Introducing these instabilities can be a _huge_ turn-off to (potential) developerswhen we were mucking with that idea we had quite a bit of negative feedback from people just trying out the platform. If anything, offer two installers or two separate installation routines: 1 for stable and 1 for beta. -jeremy On Jun 26, 2008, at 3:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just a word of caution with 3.4, we still have one or two very annoying issues to resolve before we can consider WOLips to be fully ported to 3.4. I would recommend against upgrading just yet unless you are a doing WOLips plugin development, or are prepared to live with some things that used to work not working the way they should any more. I would recommend 3.3 and WOLips stable for production use, you aren't really missing anything. On 26/06/2008, at 12:27 PM, Don Lindsay wrote: Hello; A new version of the Installer has been uploaded to my site.The installer installs the Ganymede Version of Eclipse and the nightly version of WOLips. Wonder is also an available selection for install. Thanks Don ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Webobjects-dev Digest, Vol 5, Issue 608
It will install WebObjects? What part? So far, Apple legal has been pretty clear about redistributing certain elements of WebObjectsand since I maintain the OS X Installer...I'm REALLY interested! Thanks, jeremy I have created an installer that will install WOLips, WebObjects 5.3.3, and eclipse for a user on Windows or Linux, Code for OS X is included in the installer. However, I have not enabled it, as OS X is the easiest environment to setup WebObjects on, and there is an existing native installer available on the WIKI. I need testers for the installation on Windows and Unix. Please contact me directly if you would like to participate in the test. The prerequisites for installing is that Java 1.5 be installed on the client machine before running the installation. Thanks, Don ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WO Tutorials
Guess I should forget about creating an installer for other platforms, eh? :) --- Wow, if you can provide the steps on how to do it I will create a tutorial. I am still having trouble with my windows machine running apps in eclipse. I do all of my development on a Mac normally, however I could not find a program that was as good as Adobe Captivate that ran on the mac. Don ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WOLips Installer Final List
Please send any final requests for changes/additions to the WOLips installer as soon as possible...we're finalizing the list to prepare the next revision. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Leaving WebObjects...think biz
I am not WO Developer, per se...more of a tinkerer and Middleware, techie and biz guy. Hence the installer. However, when I do work with clients of biz that want a web app developed, we usually quote out to different firms for WO, .Net, LAMP, RoR, and the list goes on Quite frankly, we just ask about their preferences (if any), and usually make the business case based on the amount of resources and different timelines the project would require. We usually don't even get into the technology unless they want to maintain their own stuff and code. We offer options for each package. Most usually lean towards the best combination of cheapest/fastest/ highest quality (which is usually WO), unless they discover that it is WebObjects and they are a total fear-based MS Shop. Usually, management is making the decisions and we just show the projected costs, and time, and required resources based on each different offering. We then say You could go MS/.Net, but it will cost an extra 30% and take longer to develop, with higher maintenance costs...your choice. While this is not ALWAYS the case, you'd be surprised how often it is... So, we make the biz case and give options...they make the decision. Also...when they ask about the underlying tech (.Net, LAMP, RoR, PHP, WO, etc), and it is a WO-based app, we usually say Java. Now, they always get full disclosure, but that is what WO really is...Java. I am aware that there has been some uncertainty about WO...but you can get support, you can find developers, and the tools are probably the best they've ever been, are under contract to being developed, etc. What WO lacks is marketing and damn good documentation. I think the direction of WO is finally clear. -2cents ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WOLips Community Installer
To all WebObjects/Eclipse/WOLips users The WOLips community installer has (finally) been declared Gold Master! The package (as in mac-based) installer includes the following components: - Eclipse 3.3.2 - WOLips (stable rev) - JavaEOGenerator - EOGenerator Templates - Launchd scripts to autolaunch wotaskd and JavaMonitor upon boot - Wonder Frameworks (as in pure frameworks) - Wonder Framework Jars (in case you prefer the embedded kind...) - Wonder api docs - Wonder RuleModeler - jadlipse - Standalone Entity Modeler - Frontbase Database + JDBC adaptor + Management Apps + Autostart - Uninstaller This Package requires: - Around 350MB disk space - 10.5.2+ - Xcode 3.0+ Developer Tools You can download it at: http://sisuworks.com/files/WOLips.zip (faster but fewer links available) OR http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/WOLips.zip.zip?a=downloadFileuser=jeremymatthewspath=.Public/WOLips.zip (slower but more links available) Please send any bugs or enhancement requests my way(I wouldn't be surprised if 10.5 Packagemaker snuck something in there...) Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WOLips Installer Beta
I'll check it outthe 10.5 version of PackageMaker has been giving us installer folks a ton of fun with permissionsespecially the intermittent kind. Thanks, jeremy On Dec 20, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Archibal Singleton wrote: Many thanks for packaging this up. I've noticed the following problem after installation, apparently, the womonitor and wotaskd processes are not automatically started (after a reboot). I tried launching them manually and got this error message: --- cut launchctl: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /Library/ LaunchDaemons/com.apple.womonitor.plist nothing found to load --- cut Here are the permissions on the plist files on my machine -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 573 Nov 30 17:13 at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 810 Oct 31 17:40 com.apple.womonitor.plist -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 795 Oct 31 17:40 com.apple.wotaskd.plist As you can see, they both seem to have too broad permissions. Also, I noticed that the name of the plist file differs from the label within it: e.g. com.apple.womonitor vs. com.webobjects.womonitor. Other than that, works great. = tmk = On 15 Dec 2007, at 11:42, Jeremy Matthews wrote: There is an initial open beta of the WOLips Environment Installerthis is still in BETA. It will be subject to significant changes before it is declared stable (WOlips stable, Eclipse stable, etc). System Requirements: - approx 200MB disk space - Mac OS X 10.5 - 10.5 Developer Tools + WebObjects 5.4 Installed The beta installer can be downloaded here: site 1 - http://www.sisuworks.com/files/WOLips.zip site 2 - http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/WOLips.zip.zip?a=downloadFileuser=jeremymatthewspath=.Public/WOLips.zip - Eclipse 3.3.2 (Stream build - Dec 5) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - WOLips nightly (3.3.4746 as of this package) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - JavaEOGenerator + Templates (/Library/WebObjects/Applications and /Library/Application Support/ WebObjects/eogenerator/templates) - Launchd scripts for wotaskd and javamonitor on startup (+logging) (/Library/LaunchDaemons) - Uninstaller Package Please send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WOLips Installer Beta
I am, for one, blaming packagemaker! If anyone else is using Packagemakerbe VERY careful with permissions (in the 10.5 version of packagemaker)it *occasionally* forgets them or applies them incorrectly. ...which is fantastic for production-level installations :) We're working on some manual fixes to the permissions stacks, adding in the wonder libraries, plugging in the new nightly wolips builds, and upgrading the newest Eclipse 3.3.2 stream built (dec 17) in the next installer revision. Please let me know if you'd to see anything else included in the futurelike, perhaps, a full tomcat servlet installation? Thanks, jeremy On Dec 20, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Archibal Singleton wrote: Many thanks for packaging this up. I've noticed the following problem after installation, apparently, the womonitor and wotaskd processes are not automatically started (after a reboot). I tried launching them manually and got this error message: --- cut launchctl: Dubious permissions on file (skipping): /Library/ LaunchDaemons/com.apple.womonitor.plist nothing found to load --- cut Here are the permissions on the plist files on my machine -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 573 Nov 30 17:13 at.obdev.littlesnitchd.plist -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 810 Oct 31 17:40 com.apple.womonitor.plist -rwxrwxr-x 1 root wheel 795 Oct 31 17:40 com.apple.wotaskd.plist As you can see, they both seem to have too broad permissions. Also, I noticed that the name of the plist file differs from the label within it: e.g. com.apple.womonitor vs. com.webobjects.womonitor. Other than that, works great. = tmk = On 15 Dec 2007, at 11:42, Jeremy Matthews wrote: There is an initial open beta of the WOLips Environment Installerthis is still in BETA. It will be subject to significant changes before it is declared stable (WOlips stable, Eclipse stable, etc). System Requirements: - approx 200MB disk space - Mac OS X 10.5 - 10.5 Developer Tools + WebObjects 5.4 Installed The beta installer can be downloaded here: site 1 - http://www.sisuworks.com/files/WOLips.zip site 2 - http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/WOLips.zip.zip?a=downloadFileuser=jeremymatthewspath=.Public/WOLips.zip - Eclipse 3.3.2 (Stream build - Dec 5) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - WOLips nightly (3.3.4746 as of this package) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - JavaEOGenerator + Templates (/Library/WebObjects/Applications and /Library/Application Support/ WebObjects/eogenerator/templates) - Launchd scripts for wotaskd and javamonitor on startup (+logging) (/Library/LaunchDaemons) - Uninstaller Package Please send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WOLips Installer Beta
There is an initial open beta of the WOLips Environment Installerthis is still in BETA. It will be subject to significant changes before it is declared stable (WOlips stable, Eclipse stable, etc). System Requirements: - approx 200MB disk space - Mac OS X 10.5 - 10.5 Developer Tools + WebObjects 5.4 Installed The beta installer can be downloaded here: site 1 - http://www.sisuworks.com/files/WOLips.zip site 2 - http://homepage.mac.com/WebObjects/FileSharing.woa/wa/WOLips.zip.zip?a=downloadFileuser=jeremymatthewspath=.Public/WOLips.zip - Eclipse 3.3.2 (Stream build - Dec 5) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - WOLips nightly (3.3.4746 as of this package) (/Developer/Applications/eclipse) - JavaEOGenerator + Templates (/Library/WebObjects/Applications and /Library/Application Support/ WebObjects/eogenerator/templates) - Launchd scripts for wotaskd and javamonitor on startup (+logging) (/Library/LaunchDaemons) - Uninstaller Package Please send feedback to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and/or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: leeches?
I think he was kidding (hence the smiley!).Mike and the group have gone a long way (I remember my own trials and tribulations!) to help the greenhorns; a.k.a. newbies, a.k.a. leeches...a.k.a. Me -jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eclipse/WOLips/EOGenerator Package Installer
HMaybe...just maybe :) -j On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:15 AM, Ricardo Parada wrote: On Oct 30, 2007, at 10:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Please send any ideas/feedback my waythis is really designed for newbies, but any suggestions are welcome. Maybe a README file or something that points to Mike Schrag's tutorials. :-) ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eclipse/WOLips/EOGenerator Package Installer
I think we'll start with the basics and refine towards something like thismaybe a 2.0/3.0 release? -j On Oct 31, 2007, at 5:21 AM, Pascal Robert wrote: Do you want to build a .pkg or do you want to build a standalone IDE that includes WOLips (à la Aptana and Flex Builder) ? Having a standalone IDE would allow us to have a custom Welcome screen with links to tutorial, etc. Working on a sample Eclipse 3.3.1.1/WOLips installer..especially for some default settings, included files, etc. Included components this far: Eclipse 3.3.1.1 WOLips (nightly build X) Saved Eclipse Update Manager prefs for nightly WOLips builds (Beta) EOGenerator/templates from Apple (per Mike) WIP: launchd scripts (canna get the OS to respect the XML files yet...) for wotaskd + Javamonitor Designed for - Leopard WO 5.4 (Leopard and WO 5.4 required for installation) Please send any ideas/feedback my waythis is really designed for newbies, but any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Leeches launchd
I don't think bandwidth will be a problem...seems like we have a few volunteersplease send me/mike an email if you're interested in hosting the installer. I'm sure it'd be nice to have a few mirrors. Also...if anyone has those launchd files for 10.5...please send them my way...haven't dug up any from the mailing list yet! Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eclipse/WOLips/EOGenerator Package Installer
Working on a sample Eclipse 3.3.1.1/WOLips installer..especially for some default settings, included files, etc. Included components this far: Eclipse 3.3.1.1 WOLips (nightly build X) Saved Eclipse Update Manager prefs for nightly WOLips builds (Beta) EOGenerator/templates from Apple (per Mike) WIP: launchd scripts (canna get the OS to respect the XML files yet...) for wotaskd + Javamonitor Designed for - Leopard WO 5.4 (Leopard and WO 5.4 required for installation) Please send any ideas/feedback my waythis is really designed for newbies, but any suggestions are welcome. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TextExpander
Someone finally got me to try this tool out...loving it for some items I repeatedly code for where copy/paste can get ugly, and code-completion doesn't quite work... Is there anyone out there who uses this in conjunction with WO/Eclipse? Love to hear about your snippets/shortcuts... Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Monitor Forgetfulness on intel?
hmmm...tried doing that and it still does not workshould I increase sleep
to a higher number?
Or, perhaps I'm typing incorrectly...the first few lines of the file:
#!/bin/sh
sleep 5
export PATH
PATH=/usr/xpg4/bin:${PATH}:/bin:/usr/bin
.
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Local monitor
One of the cool things about having the WO/Xcode components installed is the ability to invoke wotaskd/WOMonitor on any machine with the WO Runtime installed...and since I test WebObjects Applications (Monitor Deployment) on a regular basis on Mac OS X Client (Since I have a limited number of Xserves lying around...), I got tired of constantly jumping into the terminal...so I built a small Cocoa app to do the heavy lifting for me. Try it out - its free for business or personal use: http://sisuworks.com/files/Local%20Monitor.zip Ideas? Complaints? [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, jeremy SISU Works ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Change wotaskd port?
Any instructions on changing the default wotaskd port (1085) ? Thanks, j ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Groovy + Eclipse
Yes; that's what I meant...not just groovy, but WOGroovyno docs on Eclipse/WoLips integration yet... -j Have you looked at WOGroovy? with regards, -- Lachlan Deck ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: WOBuilder Replacement
Although I understand the speed and the ease of Eclipses' Editor, I must admit that sometimes I miss WOBuilder... I'd gladly pay $500 for a full WOBuilder Replacement...with or without Entity Modeler bundled (Since Mike is working on that anyways...)...maybe 2 licenses. I might be able to swing more next year Now whether it integrates with Eclipse or not...well, I've seen some nice things in Eclipse...but I'm willing to hear it out. Thanks, j ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WO WWDC NDA
So...since we can't hear what was discussed under NDA, does anyone care to wager a guess as to when their intentions (and the WWDC NDA info) will be made public? Will we have to wait until Leopard is officially released? I hope not...especially since the Apple Bridge/Tools are deprecatedthey shouldn't have to coincide with the release of an OS+Tools that are no longer the planned Application Dev IDE. -j ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eclipse Vs. Xcode...but not really?
So I get that Eclipse is where things are going for WO developmentbut I have a few clients who operate in managed environments...so I need to give them a list of reasons of having either Xcode or Eclipse (there is this odd 1-limit IDE for their environment due to some past craziness...). Since things are slowing down for them, it would be a good time to consider migration. I've heard of some opints, but I've been stuck in another land for the past few months Does anyone have a list of the pros/cons of both Xcode and Eclipse for WO development, for either technical reasons or anything else that can think of? Please include missing/broken functionality, bugs with the current versions of either.anything you can think of that makes life difficult or wonderful! P.S. - I'd omit the fact that Xcode 2.x is the end of the road for WO tools in XcodeI've made that VERY clear. Leopard will support them, but thats the end of the road... Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
WOWWDC (Recording)
I'd be willing to shell out some $ for some recorded sessions for the day...not sure if I can make it to WWDC, but I'd still love to get the WOWWDC stuff recorded (DVD/Podcast) Will the sessions be recorded? Thanks, j ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
WROX chapter 5, pg 150 - compile error?
Anyone get the example to compile correctly at the end of ch. 5? I keep getting the :Cannot find symbol on this (second) line: // value returned by the function sales = (Number)result.ObjectForKey(sales); Thanks, j ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Xcode + WO book
Chuck (or anyone listening), Did the xcode +wo book ever get published? If so, where can I get a copy? If not, what other books would (anyone) recommend? Which books would you stay FAR, FAR AWAY from? Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC movies on iTunes
Exactly! Thanks; I'll guess I'll have to wait... -jeremy On Oct 28, 2006, at 9:51 PM, David Holt wrote: I think that Jeremy is asking specifically about WO videos, which as far as I can tell are NOT part of the Leopard developer series currently on the store. David On 28-Oct-06, at 6:06 PM, Pascal Robert wrote: You should have received a link in the email from Apple if you went to WWDC this year, when you follow this link, you authentificate yourself and the link will open up in iTunes... Anyone have the direct link, since they're not in the ADC/iTMS? Thanks, jeremy On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote: Hi! http://developer.apple.com/adconitunes/ It's buried deep inside the Developer site... I just hope Apple makes the link more accessible when all the videos are launched! Yours Miguel Arroz On 2006/10/28, at 12:26, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Where are they? Did I miss them? (I have select access...but I didn't see them under Development Tools or Information Technologies Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz% 40guiamac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have no sympathy for the lost souls We've chosen the path of disgrace We give this life to our children And teach them to hate this place -- Apocalyptica, Life Burns! Miguel Arroz http://www.ipragma.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/probert% 40os.ca This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/ programmingosx%40mac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC movies on iTunes
Don't have the link...do have a membership (paid) in the ADC...please send me the link (anyone) if it actually exists... WebObjects videos ARE NOT on the ADC/iTunes store Thanks, jeremy - You should have received a link in the email from Apple if you went to WWDC this year, when you follow this link, you authentificate yourself and the link will open up in iTunes... ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
WWDC movies on iTunes
Where are they? Did I miss them? (I have select access...but I didn't see them under Development Tools or Information Technologies Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Re: WWDC movies on iTunes
Anyone have the direct link, since they're not in the ADC/iTMS? Thanks, jeremy On Oct 28, 2006, at 8:21 AM, Miguel Arroz wrote: Hi! http://developer.apple.com/adconitunes/ It's buried deep inside the Developer site... I just hope Apple makes the link more accessible when all the videos are launched! Yours Miguel Arroz On 2006/10/28, at 12:26, Jeremy Matthews wrote: Where are they? Did I miss them? (I have select access...but I didn't see them under Development Tools or Information Technologies Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/arroz% 40guiamac.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have no sympathy for the lost souls We've chosen the path of disgrace We give this life to our children And teach them to hate this place -- Apocalyptica, Life Burns! Miguel Arroz http://www.ipragma.com ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Tomcat SSDD Development/Deployment
No problems using our instructions here: http://www.sisuworks.com/page3/files/WebObjects%20Tomcat%20MySQL.rtf ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Tomcat By SW 3.2
...has been released. Changes include:Updated Tomcat to version 5.5.17 (more than 200+ changes)Updated ANT to v. 1.6.5Updated AXIS components to v. 1.4Updated commons-collections to v. 3.2Updated commons-dbcp to v. 1.2.1Added FrontBase 4.2.6 (Complete Package; you must obtain your own free license at www.frontbase.com)Updated iText .jar to v. 1.4.2Updated Javamail .jar to v. 1.4Updated jaf .jar to v. 1.1Updated JFreeChart .jar to v. 1.0.2Updated JUnit .jar to v. 4.1Updated Lucerne .jar to v. 2.0Updated commons-logging .jar to v. 1.1Updated Log4J.jar to v. 1.2.14Updated MySQL JDBC connector to v. 5.0.3Added MySQL GUI ToolsUpdated OpenBase JDBC connectorUpdated Oracle JDBC connectorUpdated MySQL JDBC connector to v. 8.2dev-503Added PostgreSQL GUI ToolsUpdated Starter And Stopper to reflect new directory pathwaysAdded Project Wonder FrameWorks, Examples, and Applications (For WebObjects Developers)Updated Tomcat Manger for preferences, streamlined appearance, and optimization/bugfixesDL:http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18567Feedback welcome!Thanks,jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Eclipsing Xcode?
Since the WO dev tools are now deprecated, and since Apple advises not to develop WO apps with them, is there any point in using Apple Development tools to build WO apps? I'm not a big eclipse/wolips fan, but I suppose I don't have too many choices now, eh? And, WO (Deployment) is not included on the new intel-based Xserve alongside Tomcat/JBoss Services. I know that Apple uses WO to run just about everything we seeso its definitely confusing. I love WO...but there haven't been any clear declarations about the product for some time, so all I have to go on are Apple's actions regarding WO. Thoughts? ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
project wonder install instructions
Any installation instructions out there? Those on the site seem out of date... Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Re: ANN: Global Village Consulting Releases WebObjects Frameworks as Open Source
Chuck, Do you mind if I include these in our free Tomcat Distribution? Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
I Wonder...
Whomever speaks for the project Wonder code...we'd like to incorporate it into out Tomcat distribution (free software), so as to make it easier for Tomcat Developers. Can someone say yea or nay? Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Tomcat By SW 3.0 - release
Download at: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151 OR http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18567 What's new? version 5.5.12 - 3.0 - Added Tomcat Manager (replacing most scripts) for Tomcat administration from an OS-level (in /Applications/Tomcat Manager) - Rewrote most modules with new install routines - Rewrote ANT installers significantly - Added logging during installation, with separate directories and log files for each install/upgrade - Added additional files for package components (i.e., the docs for axis, the source for Lucerne, etc) NOTE: This will bulk up things a bit... - Added JFreeChart resources - Updated Commons-Pool to v. 1.3 - Updated iText .jar to v. 1.4 - Updated JUnit to v. 4.0 - Updated Lucerne to v. 1.9.1 ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Tomcat Installer Update
What's new?version 5.5.12 - 1.7- Updated Frontbase JDBC adaptor to 2.5.2- Updated Postgresql JDBC adaptor to 8.2 rev 500- Updated MySQL JDBC Adaptor to 3.1.12- Updated to AXIS 1.3- Updated Javamail .jar to version 1.3.3- Updated Log4j to 1.2.13- Updated XML-Security components to version 1.3- Updated some scripts- Added "headless" parameter for logging to clear a bug- Added iText jarhttp://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18567http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Java/Tomcat-by-SW.shtmlFeedback? Thoughts?Thanks,jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Re: Tomcat fails denies access to ADMIN/MANAGER app
FYI, We roll our own version of Tomcat (5.5.12), assorted plugins and jars, scripts, etc, and offer it to all WO folks (really, the world!) It works with the manager and admin apps...find it here: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151 http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18567 http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Java/Tomcat-by-SW.shtml Questions? Let me know. Thanks, jeremy SISU Works ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
more popup fun
For some reason, my popup (list populated by a db fetch) now querys AND displays correctly, but selecting the value in the popup still produces null when submitting the object for insertion. The text fields are fine, so the method is probably sound. I'm assuming my wopopup bindings are somehow incorrect. Here are the current bindings: displayString:testTypeEnumerator.testType item: testTypeEnumerator list: testList noSelectionString: Select A Test... selection: newTestsEntry.testType displayString: is showing correct attribute item: not sure why I need the enumerator, but its there list: working, since the attributes are displayed correctly from the db fetch noSelectionString: not really important, but there selection: not sure if this is working...this is the important binding that takes the selected value, no? Entity is caled Tests attributes are: testType, testScore, testGrade, testName new entry is called newEntry Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
newbie q: multiple fields insertion?
Following this example is easy:public WOComponent createBlogEntryAction() { EOEditingContext ec = session().defaultEditingContext(); EOEnterpriseObject newEntry = EOUtilities.createAndInsertInstance(ec, "BlogEntry"); newEntry.takeValueForKey(title, "title"); newEntry.takeValueForKey(body, "body"); newTitle = newBody = null; ec.saveChanges(); return null; }However, I don't want to create a dozen single keys in WOBuilder, and I'd rather create a key that references the Entity, so I can easily drag its attributes to the correct fields. So, I created a new key "newEntry" and made it of type "BlogEntry" (which is the entity that includes title and body), instead of a bunch of independent strings. This creation showed a key with references to all the attributes in that entity.However, I'm a bit confused as to how to replace these lines:newEntry.takeValueForKey(title, "title");newEntry.takeValueForKey(body, "body");Since it no longer works, as those references now point to:newEntry.titlenewEntry.bodyI've tried replacing title for newEntry.title (and the body attribute as well), but it doesn't work. What does?Thanks,jeremy
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Re: Deploying to servlet and database settings
Kad, David and I built a patch-quilt guide for Tomcat: http://www.sisuworks.com/page3/files/WebObjects%20Tomcat%20MySQL.rtf And I have a Tomcat installer as well: http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151 NOTE: If you install this product on OS X Server...well, it could override who knows what. If you install on OS X, make sure you don't have any other apps that install Tomcat-related stuff. Thanks, jeremy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
popup selection not inserting value
Seems simple, doesn't it?I've reconstructed the fetch and syntax in EOM and reflected changes in code and in WOB; now the fetch values populate the array (popup) correctly, and shows values in the popup correctly.Now, a new entry gets inserted correctly (all text fields), excepting the value chosen from the popup list. It gets set to null. So, I need to figure out why the selected popup value is not set correctly, even if a value is chosen. It always goes to null. Since I'm populating the popup from a fetch, do I need to write a takeValueForKey statement?WOD:displayString: testTypeEnumerator.testTypeitem: testTypeEnumeratorlist: testListnoSelectionString: "Choose one!"selection: newTestsEntry.testTypeCode:public WOComponent addTest() { EOEditingContext ec = session().defaultEditingContext(); ec.insertObject(newTestsEntry); System.out.println("Saving new Test" + newTestsEntry); ec.saveChanges(); newTestsEntry = new Tests(); return context().page(); }Thanks,jeremy
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conditional link
I want to have an WOimage that, when clicked, will offer the option of inserting an object (revealing a conditional input field). I'd like to offer this ability within the same page using a WOConditional; meaning when a user clicks on the button, it reveals a section where you can insert an object (string in this case). Since my conditional-based knowledge is a bit weak, I can do this by sending the user to another page, but I'd rather not. How can I keep them in the same page? Ideas? Thanks, jeremy smime.p7s Description: S/MIME cryptographic signature ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
tomcat and mysql
Anyone out there able to successfully hook up a database (MySQL would
be nice) under Tomcat 5.5.x (maybe even 5.x.x) ?
If so, let me know how. The app works fine unless deployed under
Tomcat, and then it logs this:
- Waiting for requests...
Saving new Course{values = {courseDescription = lkj;
courseSemester = lkj; courseName = lkj; courseTeacher =
lkj; courseDate = lkj; coursePeriod = lkj; teacherfid =
com.webobjects.foundation.NSKeyValueCoding$Null; }; this =
Courses 33d742 EOTemporaryGlobalID: 0 0 10 0 1 2 0 0 -64 61
1 0 0 0 1 7 52 -83 -67 -49 -103 29 78 -69; }
- An exception occurred while trying to open a channel:
com.webobjects.jdbcadaptor.JDBCAdaptorException: Cannot create
JDBC driver of class '' for connect URL 'null'
So, Tomcat won't play nice with MySQL. Anyone who knows how to get
these kids together...well, let me know. Specific instructions would
help, since Apache's and MySQL's don't seem to be working...
Any info here will be added to our Tomcat 5.5.12 distribution
installer for mac...I'm sure others would appreciate it!
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Thanks,
jeremy
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Re: still the dreaded connection dictionary error...
Well, we've gotten it to the point where database interaction works fine in all methods except under Tomcat. Direct Connect, other containers, WO deployments all seem to work fine. I'd really like to nail this down so I can include it in future Tomcat installer releases! FYI, everything under tomcat has rwx permissions for everyonein case someone thinks it may be a permissions deal. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
connection dictionary error?
When attempting to insert values into the database, I receive this WO error: java.lang.IllegalStateException: _obtainOpenChannel -- com.webobjects.eoaccess.EODatabaseContext [EMAIL PROTECTED]: failed to open database channel. Check your connection dictionary, and ensure your database is correctly configured. I've tested the DB, and connection, and they are fine. It's just that WO doesn't like them. I can generate SQL from EOM as well. I've heard of the index.eomodeld file being corrupted, and that it may not have entries, or those entries may need to be rewritten. Right now this file is 99% blank, so I'm thinking this may be it. I'd appreciate any advice or the text of what is supposed to be included in that file. Thanks, jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
Tomcat By SW 5.5.12
FYI,We just released Tomcat 5.5.12 installer for Mac OS X 10.2-10.4.2What's New: more than 100+ changes from the apache group; view changelogs at: http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/tomcat-5.5-doc/changelog.htmlChanged to the newest stable distro (5.5.12)Rewrote everything to work with the newest version (lots o' changes here...)Updated Autostart script to declare WebObjects variablesIncluded JDBC adaptors from: Oracle, MySQL, FrontBase, OpenBase, and PostgreSQLTons of maintenance changesResolved some mis-declared variablesOne note: If you are building the app you may need to edit permissions (left locked out by default for security), by running:(I believe) sudo chmod a+x /Library/Tomcat/Download pages:http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/27151http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/18567http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Development/Java/Tomcat-by-SW.shtmlThanks,jeremy ___ Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. Webobjects-dev mailing list (Webobjects-dev@lists.apple.com) Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/webobjects-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to archive@mail-archive.com
